Yes, You CAN Create the Life You Want!

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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,

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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortez. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and

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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five, it's working

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on Purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortez. Welcome back to

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the Working on Purpose Show. Thanks
for tuning in again this week. I'm

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your host, Elise Cortez. Joining
you lie from Dallas, Texas, which

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is home based for me. If
you've been tuning in for a while,

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you know this program is all about
helping people create more meaningful and productive personal

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and work lives and equipping leaders,
insight organizations to cultivate meaning and purpose that

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elicits passion inspired contribution, innovation,
and persevering performance. I talk with my

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guest to draw on their expertise and
sharm my own experience consulting, speaking and

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developing workforces across the globe. Every
week. In these conversations, I hope

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you'll walk away with something you can
immediately put to use in your life that

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you come away with a possibility of
living with passion, working on purpose,

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and are inspired to discover for yourself
just how big and fulfilling your life,

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work and leadership can be. And
if you do catch fire from anything you

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hear, reach out and tell me
about it. Email me at Elise at

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way, I'm glad we're connected,
and thanks for listening. Now onto this

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week's program with us this week is
Rona Zia. She is the author of

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the book Your Hidden Light, A
personal Guide to Creating your Desired Life.

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She is the former having spent twenty
years in corporate finance working for large fort

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to five hundred companies. We're talking
about her journey that led her to writing

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the book and the work she's doing
today and some of the key topics from

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the book. She changes a nay
from Whitecoff, New Jersey Rona. Welcome

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to Working on Purpose. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.

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I'm so glad we found each other. And I can't remember recepting how it

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happens, but I am so glad
we did. I think maybe we found

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each other online. Have you heard
a show before? But in any rate,

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I'm so happy to be connected to
and I'm a fan of what you're

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up to. I think it's really
important and I want to get as much

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as I can out out of the
short time. So are you ready?

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Yeah, I'm ready. Okay,
So we're going to be talking about how

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we can create the lives we really
desire. But before we do that,

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I think it's important to understand your
earlier life and career and kind of what

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led up to where you are today. So I want to first understand why

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did you pursue a career in executive
finance and why specifically mostly in the retail

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industry. Yeah. Yeah, And
it's funny because where I am today's very

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different from where I've been for me, honestly, you know, I was

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in college and I didn't know what
I wanted to do. And by the

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time the senior year rolled around and
everybody was out there applying for jobs,

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I was just trying to figure out
what I wanted to do. And all

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I knew is that I wanted to
move to New York, New York City.

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And in my cultural background, I'm
Indian, that my parents migrated here

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from India in the nineteen sixties.
I was born in this country. But

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from a cultural standpoint, you know, a professional career, what I only

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had in mind was either or a
doctor, lawyer, or engineer, and

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I knew that I didn't want to
do any of that, but I didn't

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really know what else there was out
there. I really didn't. So in

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college, you know, there are
a lot of banks that were recruiting on

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campus and they were coming from New
York and for me, I thought,

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okay, that sounds very professional,
you know, banking. And I knew

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I was stronger in math as opposed
to any of the sort of other liberal

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arts core so I thought, okay, my parents would probably accept that.

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So I ended up getting a job
in a bank, moved to New York

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City, and then I quickly found
out that I wasn't really interested in banking,

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and I wanted to move into an
industry, and being in New York

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of course opened my eyes out that
wow, there's so many things you can

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do, and so I ended up
moving into a corporate finance job for HBO,

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initially thinking I'll get in from a
finance standpoint, and once I'm in

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a company, I'll figure out what
I really wanted to do. So I

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worked there. I loved it.
I absolutely loved it. I was there

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for four and a half years,
and during sort of the last year of

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my job there, I met my
husband, and my husband was not living

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in New York at the time,
so I knew that when we got married,

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we were going to move. And
what ended up happening is we got

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married, we moved to San Francisco, and I had to kind of start

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over with okay, my finance career
essentially, and I ended up keeping on

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that finance truck because I never really
figured out what I wanted to do besides

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finance, and I thought, again, Okay, let me find an industry

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that I really enjoyed that I can
connect with. I wish I could have

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stayed with entertainment, because at that
time, I really enjoyed it, but

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there wasn't much of that in San
Francisco. So I'm working with a recruiter.

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I got the call to work for
an apparel retail company, and at

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that point when I was in discussions, I thought, oh, shopping,

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I love two shops about clothes.
This could work so for the industry right

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in connection to industry was really important. That was a primary sort of priority

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for me. So I ended up, you know, going in at an

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analyst level. I took a little
bit of a step back, but I

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figured, you know what, let
me get in, let me learn the

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business from the grounds up, and
you know, and see how things go.

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So I ended up getting into corporate
finance and apparel retailer out in San

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Francisco, starting at a senior analyst
level. And I had that mentality again,

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Okay, I don't want to be
in finance, but once I'm in

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the company, I will see what
I really want to do and maybe I'll

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move into something else. But as
time pass I was really enjoying what I

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did in finance because I realized within
the company I was working for, finance

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was involved in all aspects of the
business and could influence all aspects of the

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business. So for me, I
thought, you know, okay, what

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do I really love? I love
this industry, I love this business,

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and if I can influence this business
from the finance seat, then I have

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no reason to move into another function. So I continue to stay on that

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finance track and I just kind of
climbed the corporate ladder, getting more responsibility,

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new responsibility, and that's kind of
where I stayed. And then eventually

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I got to the point of,
Okay, where do I go with the

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next logical sort of goal financial career
goal for me within retail, within finance.

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And it was eventually I set that
goal for myself that I wanted to

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become a CFO, which I was
able to accomplish in twenty twelve, which

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ended up kind of shifting everything for
me in terms of me really questioning is

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this really what I wanted to do
forever? Wow. So a couple of

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things, Rana jan Is, I
appreciate that it sounds like to me,

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you dove into your work life from
like a career bantage point versus a job

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or a calling. You were looking
to build a place where you could be

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successful and build skills, et cetera. Which I totally understand and respect and

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appreciate. And I also appreciate that
somewhere along the line things began to change

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for you, And so I want
to understand what happened for you in your

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life and your career that had you
start looking for your purpose. Yeah.

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Well, I would say the biggest
catalyst for a change for me was actually

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a very positive change, and it
was in twenty twelve where I had the

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opportunity to take a CFO role in
apparel retailer coming back to the East Coast

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because I wanted to come back to
the East Coast because I had children and

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all of our family was on the
East Coast. And so when this opportunity

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came into my hands, and it
happened fairly quickly and unexpectedly, and actually

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much sooner than I would have anticipated, if you know, one were to

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follow a normal sort of career track. So when this happened, it shook

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me in a very positive way.
There was something that I knew that I

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had done internally right. I had
this sense if there was something in terms

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of the way I was thinking about
it, the way I was feeling inside

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what I believed that allowed this to
manifest in my life. And then I

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immediately thought to myself, Wow,
you know, if I could have manifest

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this in my life, what else
could I really what else could I manifest

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for myself that would actually be much
more fulfilling and make me much more you

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know, more happier or happier than
I had been and couldn't look very different

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than what I had been doing the
last twenty years. So once that thought

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was planted in my head, I
became a bit obsessed about going, you

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know, doing some real deep sort
of personal work really in order to discover

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what was it that I really wanted
to do and what was my purpose?

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And so I actually, you know, I think started in twenty twelve.

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I started to do a lot of
sort of like reading a lot of books,

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talking to people, going on you
know, treats, going to workshops,

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and I was really sort of determined
to figure out what is it that

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I really wanted to create in my
life. And so along that this journey

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of like personal development and personal growth, I started to, you know,

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I started to come across information that
was so profound in life changing for me.

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And it was really this idea that
we do have this power to create

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what we want in our lives.
And it's really the power of our own

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thoughts, feelings, and beliefs when
they're in alignment, can manifest wonderful things

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in our life. And so what
I was learning was really really resonating for

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me, and I started to sort
of test out consciously creating things in my

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life. And as I was seeing
how I was able to impact sort of

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my external reality by changing what I
was thinking and feeling on the inside,

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it it was just life changing for
me. It was life changing. And

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so so that's kind of what really, you know, start with. The

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catalyst for me to move into a
completely different, you know, sort of

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career in my life was just me
learning about these different kind concepts that no

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one ever taught me growing up,
and me just trying them myself to discover

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my own power. And while I
was discovering this, it just gave me

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the confidence to trust that I could
do something very different. Oh my gosh,

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Ronnid, that is all so delicious, And I hope our listeners are

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hanging on every single last word that
you said because it's so compelling and so

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inspiring. And what it sounds like
to me is you have found your purpose.

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Do you feel like you have or
you're on your path? Where do

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you think you're at? I feel
like I'm on my path and that's what's

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exciting, because you know, when
you build a career at twenty plus year

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career, falling one track right in
one way of being in a lot of

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ways, things feel very known to
you, right, things you kind of

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know, like I go from this
step to this step to this step,

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and now when I've completely shifted,
I feel like I'm completely on the path

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that I'm supposed to be on,
which feels really exciting. And it's what

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I find also really exciting. It's
everything is new and I'm learning new things

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and being guided to new things and
doing new things. So yeah, it's

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been really great. Well you just
your energy, it tells me that you're

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in a great space. So let's
talk about your book a little bit.

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First. I want to understand since
I'm writing my own book, it's no

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small feat and it is coming out
this year, but yours is out.

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So why did you write the book
and what do you hope readers kit from

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it? Yeah? Well, I
wrote this book because, like I said,

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I was coming across all of this
information that was so profound on life

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changing for me and so powerful that
I just felt like I needed to get

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it all down in one place as
an easy reference. So it's just to

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have something that would continuously keep me
on track and remind me of my own

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power to create my reality. And
what was really interesting was that I've never

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had a desire to write a book. I actually didn't even think I was

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a writer. You know, if
I look back to the choices I may

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this choice to go into finance was
because anything related to writing English or any

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of that wasn't even a choice for
me, because I didn't believe I was

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any good at it. So when
I started to get feel this desire sort

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of in my soul that I wanted
to write this book for me, I

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knew that the only way I could
write this book is if I believed I

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could. And for a long time
I didn't believe I could do that because

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I had a conditioned belief that I
could not. So I actually spent a

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year and a half just building up
a belief. But when I had the

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belief, the book essentially wrote itself
and I was done with it in two

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months. And I knew that I
wanted it out within the year, which

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it was. And so for me, you know, I wrote this book

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because I felt like it was something
that I just wanted to share for anybody

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who was open to it, because
I really felt like it would be such

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a benefit as it has been to
me, you know, the benefit to

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my children. And you know my
desire, and I say it in the

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book, my desire is that it
would inspire others to sort of embrace their

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own power to create their reality.
I'm right in the space with you,

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as you know, which is probably
why we found each other. We are

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on the same sort of energy,
energy pattern, I would say, or

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yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, right, And so let's first talk.

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We have to we've got to grab
a break here in just a second,

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but we've got time for one question
around the book. I want to

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start with the first chapter that you
wrote, which was incredibly intriguing, and

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you talk about how our inner world
creates our outer world, and that everything

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in our world is energetically and spiritually
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But what you say more about this? Yeah, so you know a lot

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of times, you know, I
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world and intellectually I'm like, okay, sounds nice, but I didn't really

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get it, and for anyone to
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experience of being aware. So if
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right, and we are energy,
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energy influences and attracts our energy outside
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create something positive, then you're having
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thinking positively? Are do you feel
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what you desire positive beliefs, beliefs
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your inner being to feel positive and
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positive things on your on the outside. Now it sounds a little you know,

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people say wooo. I don't understand
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days it's becoming more commonplace to understand
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within us hugely influences everything outside of
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around it because I work in the
purpose space and purpose is definitely rooted in

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energy. So I really understand where
you're coming from. Can't wait to learn

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more. But let's grab our first
break. I'm your host, Alice Cortez.

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the book Your Hidden Light, a
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Working on Purpose. Thanks for staying
with us, and welcome back to Working

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on Purpose if you're just joining us. My guest is Ronezia, who is

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the author of the book Your Hidden
Light, a personal guy to creating your

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desired life. She us a former
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finance America working for large fortment companies. I'm your host to Cortez, So

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Ronna. Before we get back into
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with our listeners what you and I
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I was saying to you, Ronna
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into my life and for writing this
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It's inspiring me to stay true on
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fair amount this year in twenty nineteen, writing my first full book and creating

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some other programs, online offerings,
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that your work has helped give me
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Oh, thank you. I'm so
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welcome. Thank you. Well let's
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but before we do, I want
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I thought about this as I was
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get the whole notion of energies and
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create the lives that we want.
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of the people that maybe have gone
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that experience. Yeah, you know
the way I look at any sort of

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challenge, because we all have challenges
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would say we never asked for it, Why did this happen? Et cetera.

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it's a discipline and a practice to
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are the thoughts that serve me.
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situation or a challenge, of course
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are negative and you kind of have
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your body because if you try to
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things that come at you know,
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you resist something, the more you
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realize you're human and let that energy
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emotions. And for me and I
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polarity and that how everything, every
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good without bad, right or perceived
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up without down. So when you're
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connected energetically to opportunity. So any
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a situation or something happened to me
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challenge or negative, in my heart, I knew that there in this moment

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was a seat of opportunity and that
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of where I was at. And
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for this situation in my life,
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is going to come out of it, Something really good is going to come

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out, even if you don't know
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thought, that feeling, in that
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good is going to happen. You're
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That has been my experience. That
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here and really want a presence for
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social scientist and a researcher myself,
is that you have gone out there and

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really scaled for wisdom and truth looking
through at Cartol, Deepak Chopra, Aristotle,

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Gandhi, and from the Talma to
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And I really really appreciate that rona. That is so impressive, and

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I think it's important our listeners understand
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research. You know, No,
I appreciate that you know. It was

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convincing myself as well. You know, I knew that I could experience,

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you know, my power. Everybody
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deep down, or we all know
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we've created certain situations. But this
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in a lot of ways, and
my own personal experience is the most important.

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these people that we look up to, we're saying the same thing. To

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me. It just you know,
helped me build a belief because in this

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work, right, the core of
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that is foundational, because that is
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you mentioned all of the people that I

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was referencing in the book. You
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just not this is something that's been
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doing right. Right. You've given
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written your book the that makes it
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I said at the beginning of the
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to walk away with something that they
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we're getting there. And so the
next thing, I want to talk about

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it and I realize you could really
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to be somewhat brief about it and
maybe just give some pearls to start.

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But how do we start to create
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yeah, we can probably go oneverever. You know. For me, what

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I did and I believe is foundational
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people talk about meditation these days,
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powerful for me is that meditation I
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your mental muscle. Because the first
time we ever, you know, you

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meditate, you do see you become
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chatter that lives in our minds.
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oh my gosh, my mind runs
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of my own thoughts, the more
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me. Now, if I believe
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beliefs create my reality, I needed
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of what I was thinking and feeling
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of awareness. So, you know, I really really recommend that people start

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a meditation practice, even a simple
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guided meditation. It's very hard to
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clear your mind. But if you
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to build awareness, You start to
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you start to eliminate the chatter.
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chatter and you get to a place
that's when your body's very calm, very

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relaxed. That's the magical space because
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intention and you can come out of
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day which I was, that I
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that that's that I believe, is
a way that people can start to test

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for themselves how to create things and
you know, simple little things in your

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own life that is so accessible.
Runa thank you. I love that.

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peak from yoga class meditation, but
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certain for a certain level, and
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you're talking about, whether it's inside
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and sometimes it's deafening, absolutely it's
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times, you know, there are
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there would be so much loud,
you know, mind chatter and just negative

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thoughts that even sitting down to do
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form of meditation. Taking a walk
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meditation. So if I can't meditate, then I have to get up and

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kind of do things, you know, I have to go out and maybe

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take a walk to clear my mind. It is really the practice of clearing

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that mind chat or calming your body. And when you're calm, that's when

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inspiration comes to you. That's when
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that's where the magic happens. I
totally understand that this what's been happening for

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me as well, and to that
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really resonated and loved your idea of
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to everything being interthreaded and interconnected.
And I know you'll say more about that,

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but I want you to tell us, if you will, what you

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mean by this concept and why you
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the life that we want. Yeah. Yeah, no, absolutely So when

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I was writing this book was it
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and the step by step process by
which you can use to manifest positive things

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in your life. So my analytical
brain was like trying to break it down

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to very simple, straightforward steps to
manifest things. You know, these are

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the steps that worked really well for
me. Right, So I'm doing that.

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And in this sort of process I
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and experiencing I would almost ask why
does this work? Right? Why does

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this really work? How am I
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why? And so as I was
kind of going deep into my own work

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of understanding, I realized that everything
in the material world is connected directly connected

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to the spiritual world. So everything
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physical world. So cousmic and consciousness, as I talk about it in the

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book, is this consciousness, right, It's this universal source energy some people

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call it God. It is the
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so, so it's this powerful source
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we are connected to this source of
every you know, the source of the

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creator of everything, which is huge. It is huge, right, So

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that's what I mean by it is
being connected to something bigger than ourselves,

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something that is unseen, but in
which everything gets created. And the way

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we tap into that energy of cosmic
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It is through the vibration within our
body, right, and our thoughts

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and our feelings and our beliefs all
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language in the universe that connects to
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I think deep down, have experienced
this, right. We know that there's

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connection. We know that in nature
everything is connected. We've all had those

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experiences if we're thinking about somebody and
then they send us a text or we

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get a phone call, and we
think it's coincidence, but in reality,

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there is no coincidence. It's we
are all connected. You know. I

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love every single last drop of this
Rhanta. Thank you. And also the

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other thing that I really want to
surface to talk about next, what you've

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been kind of queuing up already is
as someone who is a fanatic fan of

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language, I love the English language, Spanish, Portuguese, English, French

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or a giant French. You talk
about how our spoken words are sounds that

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reflect our thoughts. I love that
sounds that reflect our thoughts. So would

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you say a little bit about how
the power we about the power we can

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harness with the words we use and
how we use them. Yeah. No,

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absolutely. When I sort of discovered
discovered this. When I say discovered,

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you know, it's information that's out
there. But when I first learned

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about this, it really rang true
for me. And it was this idea,

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right that our words reflect our thoughts
and therefore reflect our beliefs to create

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a vibration which creates our reality.
So we have to be very conscious of

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what we are saying. So,
for example, it's as simple as saying

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what you want versus saying what you
don't want. No, a lot of

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times, you know, we don't
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I don't want to be sick.
I don't want to be sick. I

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don't want to be sick. That's
saying what we don't want. And in

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that context, right, what you're
putting out is this fear of being sick.

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So you're emanating this negative vibration which
kind of goes out into the cosmic

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consciousness. And what do you receive
back? You? You know, you're

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you're more likely to experience what you
don't want. So instead being conscious of

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always understanding, even though it's difficult, right, So as best as you

415
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.599
can clearly stating what it is you
want. I want to be healthy.

416
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I want to be healthy. It
feels very different in your own body when

417
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:34.640
you say healthy versus sick. Absolutely, right. So it's being very conscious

418
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of the words that we say and
how we say them. And because even

419
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if you say something negative, you
know, we're also used to kind of

420
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bonding on things we don't like,
you know, sometimes that's the place where

421
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.279
we can connect to complain about the
weather, complain about our boss, complain

422
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.359
about what have you. And it
could be really you know, converting.

423
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We could just get in there and
complain. But and there's time to get

424
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to do that, or you're gonna
let it all out. But know that

425
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.839
once it's let it out, release
it. But if you dwell in it,

426
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.279
it's just going to make you feel
bad. It's going to make you

427
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:15.799
feel negative and bad, and when
you feel bad, you're not going to

428
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experience anything good. So to be
conscious that the words that you put out

429
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there are the words that you're going
to get back. And also just on

430
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the you know, we could talk
about this for a while a while too,

431
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but words also can help you build
a new sort of internal belief about

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something. And that's why affirmations are
tools that people use in this creation process

433
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.920
to build a new belief about yourself, like saying things like I am worthy,

434
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I am brave, I am beautiful. We're not used to saying positive

435
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:59.240
things right about ourselves, and we
usually feel really hard negative things about ourselves.

436
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We're usually hard on ourselves. But
the more you use words, because

437
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:07.400
words are powerful to build beliefs,
the quicker you're going to see that you're

438
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attracting and you're creating more positive things
in your life. Fantastic. Want to

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take us into our last break here
before we come back. I'm your host,

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Elis Cortez. We were on the
air with Rona Zia, who is

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the author of the book Your Hidden
Light, a personal guide to creating your

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desired Life. She's a former CFO, having spent twenty years in corporate finance

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working for large fortune five hundred companies. She joined it today from Wycoff,

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New Jersey. After the rake,
We're going to continue the conversation about her

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book. Stay with us, We'll
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speaker and engagement and development catalyst.
She designs and delivers professional development, leadership

447
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Now back to working on Purpose. Thanks

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for staying with us, and welcome
back to working on Purpose. If you're

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just tuning in, my guest is
Ronezia. She is the author of the

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book Your Hidden Light, a personal
guide to creating your Desired Life. She

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is a former CFO, having spent
twenty years in corporate finance working for large

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four to five hundred companies. I'm
your host, Elise Cortez, so Rona.

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Before the we were talking a bit
more about the items in your book

460
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that I particularly gravitated to, and
the next thing I want to talk about

461
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.440
that I found really interesting and I've
never anybody else actually describe with the way

462
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:14.679
that you have is you talk about
how negative emotions operate on a low frequency

463
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.239
while positive ones operate in a high
frequency. Can you say more about this?

464
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.159
And really what I'm interested in is
as how and why this phenomenon menas

465
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to living in our emotions to create
the lives that we want. Yeah.

466
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.960
Absolutely, so, I have a
whole chapter on emotions and the power of

467
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:37.880
emotions. So, emotions are energy
that we physically feel, right, So

468
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.760
they again represent our thoughts, and
it's an expression of our thoughts in our

469
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.360
body, how we physically feel.
And so because emotions are also energy,

470
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and energy creates a vibration, not
all emotions are created equally. So negative

471
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:59.920
emotions are a lower vibration and we
feel that in our body. Because low

472
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.320
vibration emotions make us feel bad,
right, they bring us down. Think

473
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.000
about that, right, So when
you feel bad, you're kind of down.

474
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.599
You know, higher vibration emotions,
positive emotions, you know, feelings

475
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:17.360
of passion, gratitude, love,
those are really high emotions. They make

476
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.920
you feel good. And some people
even say they can get high right when

477
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:27.400
they feel good, they feel high
natural highs. So as you go up

478
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:34.119
the emotional scale, right of energy, the highest emotion being loved. It's

479
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.280
a very high frequency, and gratitude
is right below that. It's the gateway

480
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.159
to love. You, how do
you immediately get yourself in a good place.

481
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.800
We'll start to think of things you're
grateful for and you'll immediately start to

482
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.199
feel good. And so when you
want to manifest something in your life,

483
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:55.679
you easily manifest things when you're in
this higher vibration because that high vibration is

484
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:01.159
what really connects you to this cosmic
consciousness. Right, people, people talk

485
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:07.920
about love is all there is,
right, God is love. Love is

486
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all all there is. And if
you think about this all in terms of

487
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energy, it's the energy and vibration
of love that is the most powerful creative

488
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:24.559
force in the universe. So why
shouldn't we be able to harness that creative

489
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.880
force ourselves to create wonderful things in
our life? And yes, we can

490
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.760
do that, and that's by by
keeping ourselves as best as we can consciously

491
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.559
in those higher vibrational states. That
was so crisp and easy to follow around

492
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.719
And thank you for that. I
love how you gave us access to that.

493
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.719
I followed that entirely and got even
deter access and what I got from

494
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.559
the book. So thank you,
and you probably were started to say some

495
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.360
of this. But the next thing
I wanted to ask you just again to

496
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.559
give our listeners something they could really
walk away with to be able to put

497
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:02.559
into practice today, is you just
g a four step creation process and how

498
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.719
it works to help us create the
lives that we want. Can you just

499
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.679
sort of briefly cover that four step
process? Yeah? No, absolutely,

500
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So the fourth step creation process,
it's the same process to create anything in

501
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.519
your life, whether it's something very
small or a bigger change in your life

502
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:24.000
like I did trying, you know, change in careers. And so the

503
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.679
step one in the process is first
starting with a thought. What is it

504
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:31.599
that you want to create? What
is your thought? What is your desire?

505
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.920
What is your goal? What is
your intention? Right? So create

506
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.079
an intention. And also when you
create your desire goal, the next thing

507
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.679
you have to ask yourself in step
one is do I believe it is possible

508
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:51.480
for me? Because without the belief
you can't get past step one. You

509
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.480
can't because then it just becomes a
wish. Right, So you want to

510
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:59.639
create a powerful intention that you believe
in and once you have that, Step

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two is an emotion. It is
infusing gratitude into your body. So what

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you're doing is you're getting your body
into a higher vibrational state. So be

513
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grateful. You know, initially you
can be grateful for your desire as if

514
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.719
you've already achieved it, you can
say I'm grateful for X, y Z,

515
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:28.519
thank you, and you can move
on or for some reason, if

516
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:32.519
that's difficult to do, just get
into whatever you know, think about whatever

517
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:37.239
you need to think about, just
to get yourself into that higher vibrational gratitude.

518
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:42.639
So that's step two. Step three
is detachment. So we can probably

519
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.480
spend hours talking about detachment. And
when you're trying to manifest something in your

520
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:52.400
life that is very different than would
you've ever experience, detachment can sometimes be

521
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:58.599
difficult. But sometimes if you're trying
to manifest something that you have experienced before

522
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:00.159
and you know you can do it
again, it may not be so difficult.

523
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:06.840
So what detachment really is is detaching
from your desire on how it's going

524
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:13.039
to happen for you. It is
one and knowing that it will manifest for

525
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:19.079
you, but it's not worrying about
when it's gonna come, how it's gonna

526
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.920
come, or why hasn't it come
yet. So another way to think about

527
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:30.679
detachment is a lot of times when
we really want something, our body starts

528
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.320
to ten stop. It's like I
really really want it, I really want

529
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:38.199
it, and we feel strained,
we feel stress. Our body feels in

530
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:44.360
a state of unease. When you're
detached, you're relaxed. You're like,

531
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.719
I know it's coming, I know
it's coming, and you're relaxed. There's

532
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:53.119
a sense of ease. To detachment
is putting your body in a state of

533
00:40:53.199 --> 00:41:00.280
ease, and in that place is
where creation starts to happen. So once

534
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:07.320
you detach, right from it,
step four is the place of action.

535
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:14.039
So that's where you do things.
Inline I wanted to create a book,

536
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:17.639
well I had to write it.
But you're not. You shouldn't, shouldn't

537
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.239
really start to action. If you're
in a place of unease, unease,

538
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.159
and straight you're attached, your way
to attach. Your action will feel really

539
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.960
really hard. Your action will flow
from that place of ease and that place

540
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:38.039
of knowing. So those are the
four steps. It's your thought with a

541
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:45.400
belief, gratitude, detachment, and
then action beautiful, so accessible. Thank

542
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:51.119
you for that, and listeners,
put that down and get to work,

543
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:52.679
and you know how to make it
a little simple, just really quickly.

544
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.679
One way to test this out because
a lot you know, this could sound

545
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.639
still sort of like, oh my
gosh, you know, it can sound

546
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.360
a little overwhelming. This is what
I did to really sort of test out

547
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.239
this process. And it's very simple. It could take this whole process could

548
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.840
take twenty seconds. It's I would
wake up in the morning and I would

549
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.679
have an intention for my day and
say, okay, what do I want

550
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.880
my day to be? Like?
I want my day to be productive.

551
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.880
Not all my days were productive.
It wasn't something that happened all the time.

552
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.079
But I knew it could happen if
I wanted it to. So I

553
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:28.079
would intend a productive day. I
would believe it was possible. I would

554
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:32.079
quickly say thank you for my productive
day, and I would just not think

555
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.599
about it anymore, and then I
would go into my work day and do

556
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:38.159
whatever I needed to do. Now
by the end of the day, I

557
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.719
would come back and think, oh
my god, I was super productive.

558
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:46.320
For me. That felt very much
that I manifested that because I never felt

559
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:51.639
like that every day, and the
more I did that, and the more

560
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.559
I made slightly different intentions on a
daily basis, intending something for a meeting

561
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.519
that I was going into, intending
how I wanted it, you know,

562
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:07.719
dinner with friends, to be like
I would see for myself my power to

563
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:13.719
create my reality. So it could
literally be a twenty second process. Wow,

564
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.519
that was That also gave me more
to it. And the fact that

565
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.679
we can actually do it in twenty
seconds, it's incredibly encouraging. Thank you

566
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.960
for that. We're running close out
of time here, runners, so maybe

567
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.320
I can get one or two more
questions before we have to dash. But

568
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.920
one of the other things that you
talk about, which I find incredibly intriguing

569
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.760
and compelling, is the idea of
choice. So talk to us a little

570
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:38.119
bit about how choice determines our reality. Yeah, so, I you know,

571
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.800
I think about the world that we
live in, right, is a

572
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.320
world of infinite choices. We're always
being presented with choices, right, do

573
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:50.360
I go left, do I go
right? Do I take this job?

574
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.440
Do I take that job? And
it's it's our choices that create our reality.

575
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.039
And so when we think about you
know, choices and creating a positive

576
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:12.159
reality for me is choosing the positive
over the negative. If I'm experiencing something

577
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:19.960
that that could be perceived right a
certain a certain negative way, I may

578
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:25.079
choose to think about it slightly different
to change my experience of it, if

579
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.000
that makes sense. So I can
give you like a quick story that I

580
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.639
think I talk about it in the
book. You know, my husband and

581
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.559
I were on a trip together.
I was on his work trip, you

582
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.480
know, he was going to Portugal
for his work trip, and I tagged

583
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:44.039
along with him. And the last
night we were there, I wanted to

584
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.639
go out and with people that I
had met while he was working, you

585
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:51.639
know, in the city. And
I met some some people and I wanted

586
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.119
to meet meet out with them,
and I wanted us to have a really

587
00:44:54.159 --> 00:45:00.920
fun last night in Portugal. And
my husband didn't want to. He just

588
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:02.679
wanted a quiet night so we can
get to the airport early so we could

589
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.599
fly back home. But I kind
of can, you know, I convinced

590
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:08.960
him otherwise, and we ended up
staying out really really late and having a

591
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:13.920
really great time. Now in the
morning, we've got very very little sleep,

592
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.119
And the next day he realized he
left his jacket somewhere in the middle

593
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:21.639
of the night, and he was
really really really upset about that. We're

594
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.440
really angry and at me, you
know, blaming me. And at that

595
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:30.760
point I was I was literally like, Okay, this could go in a

596
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.239
really bad place. You know,
we could We're both tired, we could

597
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.559
be fighting this. I could just
play out the whole scenario in my head

598
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.599
like we're not going to talk on
the airplane, We're going to be miserable,

599
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.320
tired, Oh my god, and
my head could go down this total

600
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.760
negative pod. And I knew his
head was going there too, And so

601
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.599
I did whatever I could to sort
of change the story in my head.

602
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:59.079
And how can I how can I
just practice going against where I would normally

603
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:02.960
go in all my years marriage and
just spin this story in my head?

604
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:08.480
And so I started to chalk this
whole situation ups Can't we just laugh about

605
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:13.280
it? Can't we just think of
it as a fun night out? And

606
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.480
so when my husband and I finally
kind of talked at the airport, I

607
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.960
threw that out to him. I
just said, you know what, why

608
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:25.400
can't we just feel good that at
our age we can still hang out with

609
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.719
people, have our age and stay
out all night, have a great time

610
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.880
and it'll be a funny story when
we get home, and it calmed both

611
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:38.320
of us down. And so it's
this idea of choosing a different story,

612
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:44.480
It choosing a different perspective, choosing
a different lens. And at that point

613
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.199
I felt like, for the first
time, you know, we were able

614
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:52.480
to shift pretty quickly into a different
space and instead of going down a negative

615
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.719
path, we were able to kind
of just be on a positive one.

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Yes, that story is in your
book, by the way, so thank

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you for that in way to illustrate
just the power we have to create the

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realities that we want for ourselves.
Beautiful story, and here we are at

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the very close already. So I'll
let you give my guests the last word.

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If you will run and so and
say thirty seconds or less, what

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would you like to leave our listeners
with today? Well, I would say

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I can leave you with one more
thing really quickly. That's very easy to

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do in terms of just manifesting positive
things very quickly. It is to wake

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up or go to bed whatever time
you choose with thinking about things that you're

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grateful for. I talk about the
power of gratitude in my book, and

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it's very easy to do because there's
something that we're all grateful for. So

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I would just suggest tomorrow morning,
wake up first in the morning, list

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as many things in your mind that
you're grateful for, and start your day

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and see if your day shifts in
a positive way. Beautiful way to finish.

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Rohna, thank you so much for
joining me. You were at light

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and a tremendous help. Thank you, Oh, thank you so much for

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having me on. This is really
fun. You're welcome. If you want

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to learn more about Ronezia or her
book Your Hidden Light, a personal guy

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to creating your desired life, or
the work she's up to in workshops and

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programs, visit her website it's your
Hidden Light dot com. If you miss

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last week's show, we can always
schedule to be recorded podcast. We are

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on there with Nick Craig. He's
a CEO of Chord Leadership. We talked

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about his latest book, Leading from
Purpose, and next week will be on

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the air with doctor Tullian Small talking
about Overcoming the Fear of Love, where

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she provides a psychological and neurological perspective
of fear, particularly as it relates to

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love. See you there. Remember
that work is at least one third of

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our life, so let's work on
Purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this week's

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program. Be sure to tune in
to Working on Purpose, featuring your host,

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Alice Cortez, each week on the
Voice America Empowerment Channel. This week,

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find your life's purpose at work