What Are You Doing to Realize the Person You Ache to Become?

Is this you, the aspirational human, aching to realize your potential? Do you have a desire to grow and evolve, but are not acting on it? Do you live with a constant nagging feeling, a dissatisfaction with your life, a persistent unhappiness from not...
Is this you, the aspirational human, aching to realize your potential? Do you have a desire to grow and evolve, but are not acting on it? Do you live with a constant nagging feeling, a dissatisfaction with your life, a persistent unhappiness from not meeting your potential? Then, you are likely perpetually carrying the discomfort as wasted days and self-contempt. The way out is to embrace that discomfort without numbing it away, welcome fear as a co-passenger in your ride to achievement, and develop a new mindset that emboldens your thoughts and feelings in transit to a new and brighter future. Guest Rachel Stewart will teach you how.
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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,
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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.
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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortes. In our program,
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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and
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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five, it's working
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on Purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortes. Welcome back to
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the Working on Purpose Show. Thanks
for tuning in again this week. I'm
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your host, Alis Cortes, don't
you and live from Dallas, Texas,
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which is home base for me.
If you've been tuning in for a while,
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then you know. This program is
a thought leadership platform to help people
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create more meaningful and purposeful lives and
equipping leaders insight organizations to cultivate meaning and
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purpose that elicit's passion inspired contribution,
innovation, and persevering performance. I talk
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with my guests to draw on their
expertise and share my own experience con sole
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speaking and developing workforces across the globe. Each week. In these conversations,
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I hope you walk away with something
you can immediately use in your life or
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work and if I can do anything
to help you along your journey. Go
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to explore what's going on for you and
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see how I might be able to
help. Whether you want to learn more
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about how to develop purpose inspired leadership
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you want to see about joining a
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community to nurture your own passion and
purpose, or you'd like me to come
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speak for your company or conference at
any rate. I'm glad we're connected,
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and thanks for listening. Now onto
this week's program with us today is Rachel
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Stewart, the author of Unqualified Success, bridging the gap from where you are
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today to where you want to be
to achieve massive success. She started as
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what she calls an unqualified office manager
of Titan Restoration of Arizona and rising to
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executive vice president over the last ten
years, helping to build the company from
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two to twenty two million, with
a primary focus on acount ability, profitability,
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and company culture. In this conversation, she will share some of the
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most important lessons she's learned from navigating
her own journey, confronting what she thought
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she was unqualified to do, and
stepping into how she could create the person
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and success she aspired for. She
joins to today from Mesa, Arizona.
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Rachel, Welcome to Working on Purpose. Thank you so much for having me.
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I'm happy to be here me too. I'm so glad we found each
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other. And as I've told you
now a couple of times, I loved
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your book and I can't wait to
share it with you with our listeners.
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I think that anybody who's been listening
for a while will really get some real
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value out of it. So let's
open with who you are, who your
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book really serves. And so you
told me in our opening conversation that it's
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for anyone on a growth trajectory and
likely feeling unqualified for that next level.
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And you say that this does not
mean that you're unqualified for that level.
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But the aim of the book is
to help readers gain awareness of the important
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differentiation and then manage any feelings of
inufficiency in order to do the work in
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the world that you want. And
I love that. So managing mindset fear
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all the different things we're going to
talk about today. So kudos on really
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creating a really tremendous piece of literature. Well, thank you. Well,
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I think the feeling of unqualification is
pretty universal and it doesn't just them.
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You know, it isn't contained to
our work life. You know, I
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often feel very unqualified to be a
parent or to do a lot of different
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things. So the question is like, what do we do with that feeling
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of unqualification? And you know,
if we can build tools and habits around
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those feelings then and combat it,
then we can do really amazing things in
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the world. I really agree with
that and just quickly send so much of
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what I'm up to in the world
is to empower and inspire people to live
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their best, fullest possible life that
is full of passion, inspiration, and
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purpose. Yeah. You're always going
to be growing and stepping into new territory
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to get there, so we need
your wisdom, your experience, and your
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tools to get there. So that's
why I was so happy to have you
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on the show. Yeah. Well, it's really exciting to be talking about
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it. So yeah, and it's
important we do need to talk about it,
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and what there was just so many
great pearls. And I'm going to
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go about our conversation a little bit
different than I normally do because I really
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felt that the way that you created
your work, there's so many quotable things
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in there. So listeners, as
we go through this conversation, I am
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going to be quoting and engaging Rachel
and various pieces of conversation just because of
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the quotes and where they start from. So one of them is you cite
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a woman named Michelle Craig is having
said quote, each of us, if
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we are honest, feels a gap
between who we are and where and who
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we want to become. We yearn
for greater personal capacity. These feelings create
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an urgency to act end quote.
So what's cool about that for me is
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this totally aligns with what Victor Frankel
and other existential psychologists say, and that's
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my space that the tension between who
we are and aim to become is actually
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essential for well being. Can you
say more about where you're coming from on
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that? Yeah? So I think
that the yearning that each of us have
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inside of us to reach for something
bigger can be a powerful motivator if we
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let it. And you know,
at a very basic level, it's what
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gets us out of the bed in
the morning. But then if we can
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harness it on even like deeper levels, it's the driving factor that can help
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us reach our dreams and go from
one steck after the next. And to
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me, it's it's not something that
is ever dormant. It doesn't stop for
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me. So once I hit one
goal or one dream, then it's constantly
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on me. Okay, I want
that next, I want whatever's next.
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And so if we harness that,
it can be such a powerful motivator to
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keep us, you know, engaged
in what we really want in our life.
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Yeah, And the question is if
we're going to get to some of
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that a little bit later in the
conversation, because that's critical. But you're
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first. Your own story is interesting
and I think an example of what we're
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talking about here, I mean,
you talk about in your book of becoming
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a bookkeeper in two thousand and eight, at the beginning of the recession,
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after you've had three of your four
children, naturally with no pain medication.
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I might add, Wow, that
is an incredible testament and expression of the
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concepts in your book. I think
so for our readers who don't yet know
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you as I do having read your
book, Can you give us just a
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little bit of a sketch of how
you ended up entering the workforce in two
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thousand and eight and under what circumstances
are kind of what's evolved from there.
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Yeah. So I was a stay
at home mom, Like you said,
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I had three little kids, and
so most of my life I was spending
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keeping tiny humans live and I did
a little bit of dabbling with some graphic
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design and book lay out on the
side, but primarily I was, you
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know, washing faces and bulb the
laundry. And we had just bought a
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home and we were kind of living
the American dream, just plugging away.
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But the Great Risk Session of two
thousand and eight hit and my husband lost
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his job and we lost half the
value in our home basically overnight. So
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we were left trying to kind of
figure out what we were going to do
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and how we were going to make
things work. So I had kind of
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an opportunity that presented itself. At
the time, I hadn't even necessarily made
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the decision that I was going back
to work. We had talked about it.
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My husband wanted to start his own
business, and we knew that that
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was going to require some capital.
So anyway, I had an opportunity to
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take a job as a bookkeeper.
I wasn't really qualified to do that or
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be an office manager, but one
thing that I had developed in my life
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was the ability to figure things out. And so I guess I just dived
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in and got back into the workforce
and figured out that I could figure it
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out along the way. And it
has just opened the door to so many
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opportunities and so much growth, and
so it has been a blessing in so
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many ways. Well, and I
think you're incredibly humble about that. And
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again, what's so great about what
you've done is you and your book have
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taken us along for that ride,
that journey, and it's it's it's a
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great journey to be on listeners.
So when you pick up her book,
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I'm telling you it's very inspiring.
And you have done a lot in the
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short eleven years that we're talking about
here, Well, thank you. It
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has definitely been a fun thing.
And the latest thing that has been exciting
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is starting a technology company me and
that has been a whole other learning adventure.
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I guess. So I feel like
you know, just as I have
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some things figured out. I'm starting
back at the at the bottom of the
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total pull again. But that's I
think what makes it really fun. We
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get opportunities to continue to stretch ourselves. That's exactly right now. That's on
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top of your other role too in
the restoration company. Yeah, that's correct.
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Me and the owner of that and
a couple of other partners. We
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recognized the need in the space we
were at, and there was there was
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a technology gap that just needed to
be failed, Like we weren't able to
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grow our business the way that we
wanted to. And so after some talking
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about it for a long time,
we finally just pulled the trigger and said,
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okay, let's jump into the space
and start something. So that's amazing.
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Just really quick, let's grub a
question from Tiffany here. She wants
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to know if you can just answer
briefly, did you I think I know
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the answer to this? Did you
feel bad for going back to work?
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She wants to know. She says, I know, I did you know
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what? I think that that's always
a struggle for women, right, like
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you know, it's just such a
powerful thing that we do in our homes
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as we raise our children, but
you know, we have powerful things that
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we can do out in the world
too. So, yes, it was
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a struggle. Luckily, I had
a family that was close and so my
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kids were primarily raised by my parents
while I went back to work, and
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then we were able to kind of
transition into in home nanny and I was
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able to work from home some more. But yeah, it is a struggle
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for sure, beautifully answered. Okay, so the next thing I want to
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bring us back to here, And
you know I talked about this on it
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in our first call, and you
cover it beautifully in your book. But
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this is the profound importance of mindset, and so see a little bit about
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your perspective on mindset and how we
can manage ours to achieve what we want.
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Yeah, so this is the very
first chapter of my book for a
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reason. I think it is the
foundation that leads to all of our results.
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And so many times we think that
if we take action, then our
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feelings will change, like Okay,
if I get this promotion, then I
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will suddenly feel qualified. Or if
I do this, if I get this
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next degree or next certification, then
I'll be I'll feel ready to then go
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for the promotion that I've always wanted, and I think so many times we
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have that backwards, waiting for our
feelings to change before we take you know,
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before we take the next step or
we take action, thinking that's going
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to cause our feelings to change.
And if we can take a step back
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and take a look at what thoughts
are creating those feelings to begin with,
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Like, if we really examine the
thoughts and start working on the thought and
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our mindset, then we're going to
have such better results. We're going to
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be able to come at it from
a place of confidence, if that makes
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sense. So if you can start
with your mindset first, it's going to
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make all the difference. Yeah,
And what I would say too, and
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you talk about this a little bit
later too, is just you know,
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really getting clear about the the future
that you want to live into, and
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that's sort of con generate a feeling
that can help you get the right mindset
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in order to take appropriate actions.
I think that that part of your book
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is extreme. Well, the whole
thing is quite quite well done, but
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that is extremely important and gives us
so much access. Rachel. So I
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love that you started with that first. Thank you. Yeah, thoughts create
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feelings, and that spurs action,
and a lot of times we get that
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out of order. Yeah, yeah, Well, and the other thing you
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talk about along those lines that I
think is also really critical is we as
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human beings, oftentimes fail to understand
how our mindset and our thoughts run us
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automatically and we are not even aware
that we're limiting ourselves or making decisions based
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on how you know, our mind
is working on our behalf without our say
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so. I think your point about
the need to re examine our own thoughts
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about ourselves and what we can do
is essential. As those thoughts might be,
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as you say, out of fashion. I love that, like they
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have maybe been stuck in closet for
too long and should be just maybe giving
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away to some other home. Yes, clean out your thought closet, right,
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just do some spring cleaning. So
so many things that we you know,
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we we think it's part of our
identity, like this is just the
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type of person that I am,
Like, I'm just not a people person.
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And we say that ourselves, like
to ourselves all the time, like
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that's a reality. Pet. Really
it's just the thought and then that creates
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our reality. And if we could
change our thought like that, you are
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a people person, or that you
have the capacity to become a people person
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and just switch out that old thought
for something new that's more, you know,
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more fitting and will serve you so
much better, will be so much
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more flattering, you know. Oh
and thoughts, oh and open opportunity.
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I'll tell you for me, and
this is for you Rachel and listeners.
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I can tell you. For years
I said two things about myself. One,
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I'm technical challenged and backward, and
too I'm not creative. And the
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world that has opened up by saying
I don't really know how to do that
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going has opened such a space and
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creative. Oh my god, just
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Would never tell you that I'm not
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things for years and believe them wholeheartedly. Right, And really, we get
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to believe whatever we want, and
whatever we believe and whatever we think becomes
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our reality. So we can very
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some tools for that in the book
about bridging and some ways that you can
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do it, because you can you
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thought when that's just the truth and
we get behind this like it's truth.
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out, then your brain will go
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new thought to prove it correct.
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fun, right, like that we're
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that, as you seem to do
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something that I have just grasped onto
so heavily because it really can be your
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superpower. And especially in the world
that we live in where information is so
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accessible, like we can have an
overflow of information, but you can basically
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google or YouTube just about anything and
there's really no problem that isn't solvable,
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but you can't really kind of dive
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waiting until you have all the answers, then you're probably never going to it
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moving, but if you can go
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out on the way and then just
get to work. That's it. Let's
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get to work and roll up our
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grab our first break. I'm your
host, Alis Cortes. We've been on
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is the author of Unqualified Success, bridging
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massive success. She joins us today
from Mesa, Arizona. We've been talking
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a bit about the first part of
her book, especially around mindset. After
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give you more tools and resources. Stay
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Aleasecortes dot com. Now back to
working on purpose. Thanks Christine with us,
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and welcome back to working on purpose
if you're just joining us. My
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guest is Rachel Stewart, the author
of Unqualified Success, bridging the gap from
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where you are today to where you
want to be to achieve massive success.
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She started as what she calls an
unqualified office manager of the Titan Restoration of
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Arizona and rising to executive vice president
over the last ten years, helping to
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build a company from two to twenty
two million dollars with a primary focus on
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accountability, profitability in company culture.
I'm your host, Alis Cortes. Before
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we get back into the dialogue,
let me recognize one of our listeners online.
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Ben Ben says he wrote in both
my parents worked and my grandparents watched
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me. At the time, I
think it made me a better person.
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What I want to acknowledge about that, Ben and the rest of the listeners
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is that is a perfect example of
how mindset works and your choice of choosing
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your mindset. You could feel sorry
for yourself and say, oh woe is
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me, my parents weren't around,
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And I really want to applaud that
that is a much more healthy, empowering
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stance to look at the way you
were raised. So kudos to you,
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Ben. So back to us,
Rachel, there is again so much I
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want to be able to pull out
of you before we get off the air
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together. And I became familiar with
the vision concept you talk about in your
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book a few years ago and use
it to consult leaders and individuals who are
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working to themselves to and at a
level. And you write, and I
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quote, for anyone with a desire
to succeed, make progress in their lives,
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or simply to feel more qualified,
one of the keys will be the
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ability to manage your future and live
from that future rather than the past unquote.
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So an example of someone from your
book that you might want to further
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that you can maybe share with us
that would further illustrate that point. There's
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one in mind that I thought of, But do you have a favorite one.
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I learned from my dad and it
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has been so powerful in my life. But our minds are powerful machines and
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they can go to work creating the
reality, making the vision that we have
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a reality. And so one of
my favorite examples of this, and I
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use it in the book is Sarah
Blakely and when she was selling copiers door
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to our So the listeners may may
or may not be aware of her,
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but she is the founder of Spanx
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was selling copiers a printer's door to
door. But she had a vision for
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where she wanted her life and she
knew what that was going to be,
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like the kind of disposable income that
she would have, the kind of freedom,
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the opportunities, the impact, like
how she would be leading. And
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she made this very vivid vision that
she was like really would revisit often.
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brain doesn't like the disconnect, right,
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this vision of where of what we
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subconsciously it will go to work trying
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right, that disconnect, And so
you know, when opportunities provided itself
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when she had this idea to do
spings. Uh, then that was that
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was I think her her brain going
to work trying to figure out how to
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do this and and then obviously she
had to put so much work into it
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creating this company. But it all
started with the vision that she had and
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making that a reality. And there's
what I always tell people that I'm working
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with leaders inside organizations especially, is
you know that if you can create a
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compelling vision for yourself that's so inspiring, that's irresistible, it just pulls you
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into it, that's part of what
happens, and that's your opportunity as a
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human being. Yeah, for sure. And you know, you know,
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Arnold Schwarzenegger talks a lot about this, like him doing it. Jim Carrey
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he wrote himself a ten million dollar
check in the future for acting services and
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you know, and this is when
he was a star, starving actor.
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a reality. And if anybody would have
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asked, hey, do you think
this is possible? Do you think that
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this you know, is this realistic? That's the other thing is it cannot
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be realistic. It should not be
realistic. You know, if you're operating
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from okay, what is probable,
what's realistic, You're doing yourself a disservice.
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I agree completely in fact, and
another thing that I have to quote
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from your book that I just love
that's relative to this whole topic you write,
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and here's the quote. I'm in
charge of the vision for my life,
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and I'm in charge of the outcomes. The future is my property.
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I own all of it. And
when we finally stop coddling and nurturing the
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unqualified, insecure side of ourselves that
wants to applicate this responsibility and start taking
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counsel from the part of us that
can believe impossible things, that's when things
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can really start to change. It
is only then that a new future is
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created and becomes available to step into. Unquote that is so crisp, so
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compelling and right on. Thank you. I love it because it's empowering.
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So nothing is as motivating as personal
accountability and being accountable to our own thoughts
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and our own vision. And when
we understand that we control it all,
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then we free ourselves up from being
you know, victims of circumstance or victims
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of the things around us, and
like open the doors to so many,
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so many possibilities. Absolutely, and
of course that's what I'm all about,
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is empowerment inspiration. So I'm right
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thing we got to talk about is
grit. The way you talk about it
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is incredibly what I like to call
Zini. So first, for our listeners,
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how do you define grit? So, the grit is the ability to
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stay in discomfort. And it's the
mental power required to make the lonely and
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painful push through the vulnerability and sometimes
like really painful and excruciating moments that like
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precede achievement of any kind. And
so it's the ability to be able to
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be there in the hard place and
stay there. Yeah, I love that.
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I'm right there. I love that
that definition. And then if we
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go on a little bit further and
this gets really accessible for us, are
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the readers and the listeners. Now, then you go on to tell us
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that staying in discomfort means directly confronting
the three deeply ingrained biological mechanisms of avoiding
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pain, seeking pleasure, and conserving
energy. That was so accessible and brilliant
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to me. See a little bit
more about those three areas that we're trying
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to avoid. Yeah, so this
is ingrained in who we are, right,
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it's our survival mechanisms that come from
way back when that we are creatures
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that want to protect ourselves. We
want to conserve energy, avoid pain,
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and what that means is that we
survive. So those you know, ingrained
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mechanisms that we have don't serve us. They keep us alive, but they
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don't serve us when we want to
reach big and hit our dreams. So
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what we really have to do is
overcome that natural part of ourselves and be
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able to put that aside and recognize
a lot of it is recognition going okay,
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this is just my brain trying to
keep me alive. So thank you
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brain. Now I'm moving forward.
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you know, just beings on maybe
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just say a biological level, but
it doesn't allow us to trans into our
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higher selves for sure. For sure. So you know, those are things
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that we have to overcome. Is
our ability to want to play safe or
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stay in the pack, or you
know, not be uncomfortable like avoid pain.
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to be what what limit you and
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keep you from being what you really
could be m And now along those lines,
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we're getting even closer to what I
considered to be some of the real
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goals and what you created. But
here's another another great quote that's going to
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get us more into this discomfort space
to help our listeners gain access to that.
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So quote, it turns out that
if you have a desire to grow
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and evolve and are not acting on
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persistent unhappiness from not meeting your potential. You are perpetually carrying the discomfort as
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wasted days and self contempt unquote.
So, Rachel, I can unequivocally say
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that I lived and experience that I
was a member of the very walking dead,
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that I'm living my purpose now to
awaken. This was several years ago
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when I was actually still married and
I was I knew I was not living
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to my potential, and I hated
myself for it, and it was dying
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a thousand deaths every day in the
face of this knowledge. Yeah, So
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the thing that we have to come
to realize is that there's going to be
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discomfort either way, And so you
get a choice between whether you want to
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live the discomfort of an unfulfilled,
unrealized life or the discomfort that comes with
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really stretching yourself and reaching outside and
doing things that are scary. And so
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really that's a personal personal choice,
but I think you can definitely say that
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the discomfort that you have in you
reaching for your dreams is so like,
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it's such a better discomfort. There's
a payoff that comes with that versus you
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know, just looking back with regret. Absolutely, And we're going to get
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next into something that I think is
critical for our listeners to listeners, no
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sleeping right now, please listen up. This is really important. So along
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the lines of what we're talking about
here, Victor Frankel and other existential psychologists
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like me refer to this state that
we're kind of getting to here is an
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existential vacuum. When there's something missing
and we know there's something more than we
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that we yearn for. That's what
they call the existential vacuum. And here's
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where it gets really important, listeners. So, Rachel, as you discussed
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in your book, we humans try
mightily to ignore this discomfort by buffering away
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our feelings of this discomfort, and
we do it by overeating, over drinking,
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spending hours on social media, and
countless other ways to try to distract
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from the gnawing discomfort of stagnation.
This is so important, So listeners,
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if you find yourself doing a lot
of these things, examine what's under that.
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This is I think this is a
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critical concept that you're servicing right here
in your book. Yeah. Well,
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we all have our favorite numbing agent, and you know, it's just it's
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what we go to when we want
to avoid the difficult things in our lives.
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be as simple as okay, you
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know, scrolling through social media and
stuff to avoid making that difficult sales call
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or doing something that could be a
little bit challenging. And so then we
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buffer and we find other distractions and
everything. But when you can recognize what
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your particular numbing agent is and then
try to put it in a box,
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it can be really helpful. So
let's say you are using social media as
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that buffer against doing some hard things, and you find yourself on there a
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lot and you're just mind mostly scrolling, and what you can do is say
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three on Saturday afternoons, and other
than that, I'm going So you you
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kind of put some things to limit
it so that you don't because a lot
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of these things we do unconsciously and
it just becomes habitual for us, and
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then we we just realize we wasted
you know, a lot of a lot
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of time doing something that could have
been better spent elsewhere. So trying to
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put it in a box and contain
it a little bit and recognize what your
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numbing agents are and when you're you're
going to them. What's great about that
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advice, I think, Rachel,
is you're not saying, hey, just
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stop social media, scrap it all
together, throw it out with the bathwater.
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You're not saying that. You're you're
very distinctly saying you're being very intentional
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about how to manage how much you
allow yourself to be in that kind of
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a numbing agent or that activity.
And I think that's incredibly useful and something
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that our listeners can really grab hold
of and use and bring in their lives.
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Yeah, and I think intentional is
the correct word, right, because
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we can't be on all the time. We can't be like at this high
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level all the time. So are
there are times and moments where you're going
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to need to take a step back
and disconnect from some of these things.
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It's just finding out when you're using
it to them and when maybe it's your
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intentionally using it as a break from
what you're doing. Fair Enough, let's
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grab our last break here. I'm
Alice Cortez, your host. We've been
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on the air with Rachel Stewart,
the author of Unqualified Success, bridging the
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gap from where you are today to
where you want to be to achieve massive
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success. She joined you today from
Mesa, Arizona. After the break,
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we're going to continue our conversation and
specifically talk about fear. Stay with us,
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We'll be right back. Alis Cortes
is a speaker and engagement and development
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catalyst. She designs and delivers professional
development, leadership and engagement workshops and can
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bring her expertise to your organization.
She will help ignite meaningful development within your
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workforce that will increase employee engagement,
performance and retention. To learn more or
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to invite Elise to speak to your
organization, please visit her at www dot
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Elise Coortes dot com. She would
welcome the opportunity to help get your employees
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working on purpose. This is working
on purpose with Elise Cortes. To reach
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our program today, send an email
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Now back to working on purpose with
this one being back to working on
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purpose if you're just turning out versus
Rachel Stewart. She's the author of Unqualified
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Success, bridging the gap from where
you are today to where you want to
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be to achieve massive success. She
started as what she calls an unqualified office
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manager of Titan and Restoration of Arizona
and has risen to executive vice president over
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the last ten years up to build
a company from two to twenty two million
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dollars with a primary focus on accountability, profitability, and company culture. I'm
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your host, Alice Cortes. So, as I sort of said before before
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we came into this next break,
we got to talk about fear, which
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is such an important elephant in the
room when it comes to achieving our next
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level of wherever we are aspiring for. So once again, Rachel and listeners,
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I have to read a few sentences
from the book because they're so witty
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and perfectly situate how we need to
embrace fear. So here we go quote,
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rather than spending all your energy resisting
fear when it shows up with this
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extra luggage and its suggested list of
annoying detours, you can just recognize that
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it's necessary part of your human experience, especially when you were taking your life
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to a new level going somewhere fear
is going to. But fear never gets
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to drive, never gets the steering
wheel. It doesn't get to give directions,
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question the route, to consult the
map, or even control the radio.
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It just gets to sit in back
with his headphones on and go for
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a ride, hitching a lift with
you on the way to your dreams.
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Unquote, Rachel love that it's so
awesome. What a great way to distinguish
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fear and take the smack out of
it, right, Yeah, well,
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I definitely think that the sooner we
can realize that that's just part of the
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journey and anytime we're going to be
stepping out and doing something big, there
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is going to be fair. And
so when you can go okay, you
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know it's a lump for the ride
it's coming, and expose yourself more to
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that idea and you know the feelings
that come along with fear, you can
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recognize that, Okay, it's not
that scary. I can just move on
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and move forward. Well. The
other thing that I think is so brilliant
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about what you do in that passage, Rachel, Again it aligns with logo
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therapy and existential psychology, especially logo
therapy, is the use of humor.
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Humor is an incredibly useful human tool, and to be able to make fun
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of fear, this horrible thing that
off of controls our lives, is pretty
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powerful. Yeah. Well, and
often we can look back at it,
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and we can do that really well
after the fact. So it's being able
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to make that part of the present
that because a lot of times you can
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look back at something and be like, I can't believe I was so afraid
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of this, you know, and
you can laugh at it after the fact.
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But making that more a part of
your present, like you know,
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real having a sense of humor with
it, I think takes this thing out
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of it can be a little bit
less terrifying. Absolutely, And I just
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got an image. I think it'd
be really fun listeners if you actually give
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your fear a name or you know, whether it's a passage or something,
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and put it on a you know, a stuffed down or something, and
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actually strap it in your car and
take it with you to the next big
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meeting. Wouldn't that be fun?
That's awesome. Careful the mind is a
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terrible thing when it gets undirected,
right, I could go on all different
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kinds of directions. See, and
you said, and you at one point
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thought you weren't creative. No,
and I told you before. Now that
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I've grasped it totally, so I'm
going for it. But okay, so
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the next fun thing we got to
talk about just right right there up with
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with fear, is this other f
word that's that's failure. And and again
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you say failure is quote simply the
natural result of innovation and creativity as we
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push past our current boundaries and explore
what's still possible unquote. And that you
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also say, framing failure as the
way to the goal rather than an unpleasant
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detour on the other end of the
road can change everything unquote. Completely agree.
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Any examples that you can help us
better underderstand how those really show up
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for us. Yeah, for sure. So I really love something that Mayo
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Clinic had started doing and it's called
the Queasy Eagle Award, and they it's
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given out to ideas that, you
know, despite significant effort, a lot
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of work and inspiration, didn't quite
make the cut. They just ended up
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being failure. And so they have
this award called the Queasy Eagle where they
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celebrate all of these ideas. And
what's so cool about that is that it
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took the shame and embarrassment out of
failure and put it where it really should
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be, which is just it's just
an idea that didn't work that you know,
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we tweak it, we fix it. You know, it's nothing about
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it. It's not a statement of
our worth or any anything else. And
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it resulted, this Queasy Eagle Award
resulted in a significant number of ideas that
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have now become patents and have these
you know, it's taken Mayo to a
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whole other level of innovation because they
were they just had this award called the
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Queasy Eagle Award, and they they
spent time celebrating it. Mm hmmm.
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Yeah. And I've heard and you
say it in your book. I think
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in different ways too, But I've
heard many organizations and leaders that I work
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with say, yeah, let's fail
fast. Let's how many failures can we
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actually generate here to get on to
the next amazing thing that if we didn't
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have those failures we wouldn't ever uncover
for sure. And there's so many stories
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about that, and you look back
and it's easy to see in other people
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or in other organizations, and a
little bit harder to apply because it feels
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so personal when it's our failure.
But if that's something that we can do
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often is celebrate, celebrating and looking
for failure, then we are going to
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succeed that much faster. Mm hmmmm. Well, and that might get to
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one of the other really great points
that you and I talked about on the
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phone as we were talking about what
we wanted to discuss. And then of
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course it's in your book, and
it's it's vulnerability. And I found what
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you write about is incredibly refreshing,
especially as it relates to leaders, and
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you say it's good for leaders to
have a slight bit of vulnerability, if
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not a good bit, and not
stand in hey, I've got this all
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figured out. Why do you think
that? Why do you take that stance?
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Well, I think for a couple
of reasons. One I think it
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gives us a space to not be
perfect, to not have it all figured
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out. But also I think what
it does for our teams and the people
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that were surrounded with because you know, they get to be a part of
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that journey, they get to be
helpy the solution to figure it out,
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they help they get There's just so
much more energy and innovation and when you
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can approach things from a beginner's mindset
that maybe you know and asking why and
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what if this wasn't true or what
if I don't know that and that's okay,
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you know, and so being able
to lead from that place, I
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think when you get so much more
innovation and buy in from your team,
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but too, there's so much less
pressure and stress I think on you as
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a leader. H I completely agree
with all that. I appreciate that.
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As I read your book. There's
one thing that I think probably that showed
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up for me that I resonated with
so strongly and why I love your book,
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and it's I think it's it's what
I would call it's human agency.
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Agency is the idea of how does
we make things happen? There's so much
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in your in your book about being
able to make something happen, And I
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just want to call that out as
really a phenomenal way to describe and distinguish
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what you've done. Thank you.
Yeah, I think you know, there's
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I think there's a lot of ways
to get there. But I have found
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success in the habits and characteristics that
I talked about in my book and the
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exercises to help build that. And
that's the other thing is I think that
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all of this we can learn along
the way. It It doesn't have to
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be something that's built in us or
natural like, we don't have to be
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naturally talented in any of these things. There are skills and characters that can
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be developed. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's not that, oh was I
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born to be a fantastic human being? And can I be successful? Or
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am I doomed to failure? And
that goes back kind of the back to
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mindset, the growth mindset, which
you know, which trumps the fixed mindset.
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So I love that too. And
the next thing I want to talk
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about too, that I think is
just so important again speaks to agency and
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making things happen. And it's the
idea of showing up, so you say,
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quote in a world obsessed with discovering
phenomenal talent. There is very little
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attention paid to the quiet, continuous
act of showing up phenomenal yes a grade
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say more about that. Well,
I think this is a little self serveying
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this this part of my book,
because I don't consider myself a strong talent,
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so I don't think I would win
that award for many different things in
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my life. But one thing that
I did have the ability to do was
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to work hard and to show up. And so I saw that a lot
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in my life, and I got
that award a lot like running cross country
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track. You know, I'd get
the hardest Worker award or whatever, and
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they're like, you know, she
gets out there and tries hard. But
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one thing I learned from that is
that just by showing up every day,
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it is amazing what you can actually
accomplish in your life. And just being
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there and putting in the hours and
putting in the hard work. I'll take
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a hard worker over you know,
somebody extremely talented and bright any day of
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the week. And that's something that
I've learned. As you know, I've
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been hiring and growing my team and
everything is those people that are really committed
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that are going to come in and
dig in and give their heart art and
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you know, work with passion and
everything like that. The technical skills the
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other things I you know, we
can train, we can work around that,
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but that's that's something that can't be
taught, and I think there's just
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a lot of power to that.
I agree, you know, into that
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bit about showing up. I really
related to that and resonated with it too
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from my own experience. And when
I do read author's work to get prepared
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for the show, I often try
to really make sure I can try the
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stuff on for myself so I can
see how it works and it helps me
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better speak about it. So for
me, what I would showcase about showing
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up is I have been hosting this
radio show for more than four and a
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half years, and so today you
are number episode two hundred and forty seven.
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So I get to continue to show
up and continue catalyzing my own thinking
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and understanding of meaning, purpose,
inspiration, motivation in the workplace and in
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life because I host the show and
I've really come to see for me Rachel,
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that in doing so, this show
is an amazing catalyzing platform for me,
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and I continue to do it because
it helps me become a better thought
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leader, a better speaker, a
better practitioner, a better business leader.
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But if I didn't show up,
I wouldn't get that. That's that's awesome.
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I mean that that really to speaks
to you know what it is,
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and you know it just the small
simple acts that we do every day,
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like over a period of time,
they start, you know, making a
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huge impact and they can change the
tra directory of where we're going. And
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so I love that example that you
gave. Thank you. I do too.
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And one of the other things that
I do want to talk about because
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we do have a little bit of
time to cover it, is this is
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important for our listeners for wherever they
are. But you you distinguish in your
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book and you say quote start with
where you are in quote, which has
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a difference between which is different than
what somebody else might say, which is
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fake until you make it. I
really like that because it's so much more
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real. But you say, there
is a huge difference between a person who
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plays small and scared because they might
be exposed as an ignorant fraud and someone
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who may not know everything but plays
all out because they are one hundred percent
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confident they can figure it out that
is spectacular, Say more about that.
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Yeah, So again, this is
something that I feel so passionately about,
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like just you know, really get
in and give it a go. And
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so yeah, some people say fake
it till you make it, or start
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where you are, whatever it is, but there's so much power in just
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beginning the journey and then so much
can be figured out along the way,
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and there's there are going to be
challenges and you know, I'm trying to
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think back about where I heard this, but somebody once told me that,
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like what is the most powerful currency
or what makes the company the most valuable
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is how many problems you have solved
along the way. And you know,
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and I think that that's really what
it is. It's just if you're waiting
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till we have it all figured out
or there's perfect answers or perfect solutions,
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you'll never get going and the opportunity
will will pass by. And especially the
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way the world's moving, which technology
is advancing so fast and innovation happens so
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quickly and companies are scaling it such
a rapid pace. Like if you're waiting
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until you have solutions or you feel
like you're ready, it's going to be
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gone and so it's too late.
I just think, yeah, jump in
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with both feet and give it a
going, and if it ends up being,
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you know, a queasy eagle,
I'm soree it. But I think
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more often than not that will surprise
ourselves with what we got. Another quick
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image on that one as you were
talking, Rachel, so, I got
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the image of somebody, any of
us, standing on the big diving board,
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scared to death to jump into the
deep end. But we, you
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know, take our left hand,
plug our nose, close our eyes,
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jump off that diving board into the
deep end, and you know, just
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trust that we'll get there. And
I do think it does require a leap
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of faith to really go for what
we want in life. So again,
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that's so much of why I wanted
to share with my listeners, and what
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you've written is awesome and so helpful. You. Yeah, so this is
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a perfect way for us to finish
the show, I think, because it
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showcases so well why I continue to
showcase this show about leaders, authors and
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experts like you. You say quote. When we set aside our fears and
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the many reasons we can't do something
as we are unqualified to do it,
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we progress personally but simultaneously we lift
others and allow them to rise with us.
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Our unqualified success always has a ripple
effect. Would you please say more
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about that? That is beautiful and
I completely agree with that. Yeah,
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you know, I just think that
as we chase our dreams, we give
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other people the permission to chase their
So so often I think that the people
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around me go, oh, wow, she can do it. I could
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do it, you know, because
they they've been around me enough to know
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that there's nothing, you know,
incredibly special about me. But you know,
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they're like, oh, okay,
So when it gives permission for people
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to go after their dreams. But
I think the other thing is that provides
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opportunities and you know, as you
grow, as you learn and develop,
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those are those are skills and thoughts
that you can share with the people around
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you. And you know, I
think, like your following in your community,
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how how much have people learned and
grown because of you because you were
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willing to take that step right and
to do things that were scary and to
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start out and just put yourself out
there in the world and put your work
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out there. And you know,
the ripple effect that you've had on your
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community and so I think as all
of us do our work, that those
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opportunities arise and we have such a
you know, we can do so much
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good. I agree, And two
things to that. So today, Rachel,
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you are my ripple effect and for
our listeners as well. And the
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second thing I want to say related
to that is, yes, I'm on
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a mission to make a difference in
the lives of one million people before I
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find my way into the earth,
and that is to help them better activate,
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discover their passion, inspiration and purpose. And so the ripple effect is
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really important to me. That's that's
phenomenal. I love that. And you
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know, as you do your work, then you know, what benefit are
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those people who are gaining benefit from
you passing on to somebody else, you
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know. So it's you're going to
impact a million people, but then by
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those million people impacting others, how
many people will you pect? That's exactly
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the point exactly we need to close
here. But I want to give you
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a chance just to say, say, maybe in fifteen seconds, what would
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you like to leave a listeners with
today. Yeah, I'm just excited to
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see what people do with their unqualified
journeys, and you know, just to
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do the hard work, have a
little faith, be brave and jump in
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and you know, and let's support
each other on the journey. Sounds good
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to me. Thank you so much
Rachel for writing your book, being on
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the show, sharing yourself listeners.
If you want to learn more about Rachel
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Stewart, visit her at unqualifiedtools dot
com. Last week, if you missed
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the live show, you can always
catch it be recorded podcast. We were
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on the air with Meredith Elliott Powell, keynote speaker and author of Own It,
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Redefining Responsibility, Stories of Power,
Freedom and Purpose. We talked about
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the new business frontier we're working in
with a corporate, with the corporation being
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defined to serve not just shareholders,
but the broader community of customers, employees,
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suppliers in the community. And we
contrasted that to the old world of
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employee engagement with the new and we
helped individual employees understand how to claim their
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own responsibility and opportunity to claim their
level of engagement and career advancement without relying
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on any organization to do it for
them. Very inspiring conversation. Next week
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we'll be on the air with Carl
Monger, who's the founder of the Gallant
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Few, an organization which helps military
professionals transition to civilian life with purpose and
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wellbeing. See you there. Remember
that works at least one third of our
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life, So let's work on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this week's program.
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Be sure to tune in to Working
on Purpose, featuring your host Alis
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Cortes, each week on the Voice
America Empowerment Channel. This week, find
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