May 5, 2026

Hooked, Wired, and Tired: The Hidden Cost of Constant Connection

Hooked, Wired, and Tired: The Hidden Cost of Constant Connection
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What if the very tools meant to make life easier are actually draining you? From endless notifications to late-night scrolling, today’s technology is keeping your cortisol levels spiked—and your body stuck in stress mode. Justin Hai breaks down how this invisible cycle fuels burnout, anxiety, and fatigue, and shares practical ways to break free, reset your system, and restore balance across your work, health, and life.

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Release Cortez.

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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose program, which has

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been brought to you with passion and price since February

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of twenty fifteen. Thanks for tuning in again this week.

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Great to have you. I'm your host, doctor Release Cortes.

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Most leaders are sitting on untapped human energy, and I

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help them unlock it. I'm an organizational psychologist, logal therapist,

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workforce advisor and the founder of the Gusto Now movement.

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But the title I really love is just much simpler

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and simply I traffic and energy, not the service level

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motivation or another engagement initiative kind, but the deeper force

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what I call Gusto, the life force for performance that

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drives commitment, perseverance, and genuine ownership of a shared mission

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in the clients we serve. You can learn more about

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as on how we can work together at Gusto dashnow

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dot com or my personal site at least Coortes dot

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com if you are just joining us. My guest is

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Justin High. He's a serial entrepreneur, product designer, and innovator

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whose career spans health, wellness, biotechnology, and consumer products. He

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has co founded multiple award winning companies, including Alastin's Skin

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Skincare and Gello Pharmaceuticals. Today, he serves as the president

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and CEO of Rebalance Health. His interest in hormone health,

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especially the overlooked role of cortisol, began with a desire

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to understand how modern stress impacts the body. He's written

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the book called Stress Nation, Escape the Technology Trap, Eliminate Stress,

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and Reclaim Rest. Will be talking today specifically about the

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role of hormones in our life and health, the technological trap,

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but he's going to help us really understand better and

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also a bit more about how his company, Rebalance Health,

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is helping to bridge the gap there. He joins today

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from Boulder, Colorado, justin a hearty welcome too, working on Furgos.

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Thank you very much, thank you for having me.

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It's wonderful to have you, and I appreciate and celebrate

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what you brought into the world here. It's really beautiful.

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It was a beautiful read, and I loved how playful

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it was. I saw that the language was described as

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being playful and accessible and it is so thank you

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for doing that for us.

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Thank you, You're welcome.

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So I want to just jump right into it because

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I told you before we got on air that I

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took your advice from your book to heart and started

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thinking better about or more deeply about how I interact

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with technology and how it might be impacting my health.

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I have certainly suffered from those sleep problems that you

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talk about for lots of different reasons. So I think

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it's important that we situate this idea of the technology trap,

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with this little thing that we all can't seem to

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get far away from, at least to start our phones.

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Could you start there?

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Yes, very simply, we look back to how we've evolved

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over the past forty years, and you really take a

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deep dive into how our life was much calmer, much slower,

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and how we have beginnings and endings to different parts

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of our day and where we are today, where there

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are no beginning and endings because we carry everything in

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our pocket, our little phone that gives us access to

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unlimited information and content we want it, whether it's good

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or bad information, or put that to one side, or

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just say that we have unlimited access and we weren't

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taught how to use it as humans. We just thought, ah,

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this will help me be more efficient. I'll work faster, harder, longer,

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And we've compromised our humanness in that process, and we've

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compromised our health. And to put it really simply, when

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Cortiso is elevated because of the device, it actually interrupts

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our natural rhythm that we have in our body called

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you know, the circadian rhythm. And what that does is

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it prevents us from falling asleep, and it prevents us

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from staying asleep. And the AHA moment for most people

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is you make your hormones predominantly in your sleep. So

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if you're not sleeping, you're not making the hormones. You

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need to function as a human being at your very

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best the next day. And that cycle repeats day after day,

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week after week, month after month, and that is why

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we have a massive hormone problem right now.

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Hm hm wow, way to open it strong, justin Yeah,

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so let's just throw our phones and all of our

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our technological devices right out the window, and I will

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be so poppuyar with all the tech companies.

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You know, I had nothing against technology. I love it,

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I use it. We're using it right now to do

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this wonderful interview. The problem is we weren't taught how

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to use it. And I'm very blessed. I have a

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very very influential board of directors, and one of the

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women on my board was very close to Steve Jobs

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and was part of the Apple She ran all of

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the stores globally, and she said, Steve would hate how

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the iPhone has, what it's become and what it's done

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to our lives. It wasn't what it was about, but

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it has naturally evolved that way. And there would no

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instructions from any technology company on how to use this

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for our well being. It's always about more, more, more more,

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but never about restraint. Yeah.

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Yes, And I want to dive in a little bit

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more as we go through the when we get into

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the technology trap into the next part of the conversation.

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But next loot to do is I want to situate

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for you. There's for you, and what you're teaching us

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in the book is that we have a master hormone

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and you call it it's cortisol, and you have resied

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yourself as its hype man because it gets a really

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bad rep Yeah.

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Cortisols a wonderful hormone. I mean, almost every molecular in

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the human body has a cortisol recepta, which means when

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that hormone is high or low, you feel it systematically

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head to toe. No other hormone operates that way. And

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if cortisol is high, it is able to stop the

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other hormones from functioning right simply as I explained, because

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if couso's high, you can't sleep, you can't make it.

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So if it's high, you're not making testosterone, progestion, estrogen, HGH,

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you name it, it's not being made because cortisol's interrupting

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that natural cycle. That's why I call it the master hormone.

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But on the positive side, when it is imbalance, it's

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doing wonderful things where immune system must sleep, wake cycle.

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It's doing something for you know, sucerlose levels, it does

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everything for metabolism and so forth. The way that you

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should look at cortisol is it's your body's alarm systems.

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It's there to protect you and keep you safe. We're

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all at arms with cortisol right now because we think

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that it's you know, it's doing harm to us. But

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what it's doing, it's saying danger, danger, danger. There's too

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much stimulation going on here. You're too high. You need

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to calm down, and we're all ignoring it. We say no, no, no, no.

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The tech company says, I can do more, I can

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be faster, and that's what I'm doing, and our bodies

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at a juxtaposition with cortisol all the time, and so

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if we can get cortisol to calm down, then it

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works in our favor and it does wonderful things. When

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it's in the alerted state, it's basically telling us you're

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in danger. And when our bodies are elevated in cortisol,

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that danger to the body seems like I'm running from

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a bonying building, I'm being chased by a bear, say

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the tooth tiger. It's designed to keep us safe. And

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when it does that, it goes, well, you don't need libido,

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let's turn that system off. You don't need metabolism, let's

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turn that off because I don't know when you're going

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to eat next. Right, you're running for your life, so

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I want to store as much of that fat as

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I can keep. So now all of a sudden, everyone's like,

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I can't lose weight. I'm gaining weight, I'm eating right,

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I'm exercising, but I can't lose the weight. Yeah, because

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your cornsole's high. Your body's not letting you burn that

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off because it's turned off metabolism because it thinks it's

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in a fital flight situation, not in a rest and

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digest environment. And so that's how cortisols interacting with our bodies,

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and we've all missed it. We all just think, why

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can't all I've got to do this diet, I've got

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to do that exercise routine, I've got to do it

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this way. No, we just got to learn slow down.

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So a couple of things to build on that. So

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for listeners and viewers who don't know as much about

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hormones as you do. I was shocked to learn that

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we have what more than fifty hormones that work that

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run us and two if listeners and viewers, if you don't,

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if you're not familiar with cortisol to the extent that

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Justin is or I was before I read the book,

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it's also called the stress hormone or the fight or

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flight hormone response. So just to situate that for the

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people that are listening, and it's just kind of getting

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getting getting acquainted to it. So another thing that I

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thought was really interesting is you talk about Allison Grant

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Raycom's work in the book and you talk about how

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she says cortosol has a rhythm. We always start really

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high in the morning and then we have peaks and

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troughs throughout the day and then we're trying to bring

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it down at night. Is that Do I have that right?

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your corso starts to spike. It's what wakes us up,

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and it goes up very quickly. It's why we we

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think the best first thing in the morning, we're on

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our best, we're fresh, and so cortisol definitely gets nice

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and high in spikes around made often. Then it really

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starts to come down on the other side of the

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curve and starts to head down. And if you think

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about cortisol and melatonin, if they were in a relay race,

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cortozo would hand the baton over to melatonin and then

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melatonin will say, yeah, it's time to prepare for sleep, right,

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meet melotonin at the right level. But if cortisol's all

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the way up here and you know, melatonin's down here,

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they can't hand off that baton and we're constantly fighting it,

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and so what do we do. We'll take a whole

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handful of melatonin gummies. Maybe that'll force it to happen.

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It doesn't work that way. So that cycle is high

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in the morning, peaks abround midday or so early afternoon,

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starts to come back down, and it should be as

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low as possible as we hand off to melotonin and

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we want to go to bed.

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So speaking that this sleep part that you talk about

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was really alluring for me. A couple of things that

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stood out. If you tell me if I got through one,

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you said, napping doesn't count because what we're going for

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is what seven to nine good hours for if we

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were tween the ages of eighteen and sixty four. You

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mentioned other eight ranges is too. But you also talk

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about how what you mentioned the sleeps, there are the

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ram cycles and the in rim cycles, and we go

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through four or five of those at night, and you

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said you want we need five, ideally five complete cycles.

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Do I have that right?

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Yeah? I mean there's four to five cycles. You go

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from like slight sleep, you know, to more of a

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deeper sleep than into a RAM sleep, and then you

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rinse and repeat. Essentially, the most important sleep for me

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for tracking I like is deep sleep. You want it

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deep sleep, because that's when you make it predominantly a

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lot of your hormones, your sex MNEs and so if

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you are not sleeping or you wake up in the night,

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you disrupt that cycle and your body is not able

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to make the efficient hormones you need to function the

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next day. And lots of analogies you could use, but

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people normally sleep the best when they're on holiday. Very simple.

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sleep like a baby. Right, there's probably more intimacy in all,

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there's probably more play in our world, more joy in

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our world. Just that's very easy way of looking at

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what stressed us to us and how it impacts us.

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And so when you can't fold a sleep and you

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can't stay asleep, and that's the keyword, stay asleep. Especially

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as we get older, your hormones are compromised. And that

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goes into a whole other conversation around entitlement that we

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have as we get older and our lifestyles that we

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choose as we get older. And actually it's harder for

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us to get seven to eight hours of uninterrupted DAVE

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as we get older, and that's the most important time.

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Well, I want to start We're going to talk more

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about this in the next segment, but I do want

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to start talking about technology. I learned so much from

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your book justin Oh my gosh, so much and this

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idea of the effect of blue light on us in

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terms sure of how it increases our cortisol. So I

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told you I was working on this. I was trying

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your stuff last night and I put my phone away

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for two hours ahead before I went to bed, so

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I didn't have the blue light. And then I was

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thinking of myself, what do TV count No TV counts

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as blue light, you know, And I was trying to

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go through the list of things that I could actually

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be looking at before I went to sleep. So I

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got a book, justin old fashioned book and Help, and

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it was great. It was actually it was very relaxing, right,

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and I didn't I also put some nice lavender spray

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in my pillow, which I loved, but it was great.

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I normally used that times and suddenly in to kind

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of knock out some emails or look through make sure

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I didn't miss a text or whatever. That's how I

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use it. And so I didn't do that last night,

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and I slept. Okay, I can't tell you. I can't

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give you the reaving report that I watched all the

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way through, but I think it's it would be great

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if you could also teach our listeners and viewers just

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how does this blue light impact the course level? What's

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so bad about the blue light?

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Basically, blue light is the same frequency that the sunlight emits,

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and so when your body sees sunlight, it wakes up

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and it triggers more quartoso. It's it's really that's the

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simple way of explaining it. Now, you can buy blue

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light glasses that you can wear that kind of showed

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your eyes from the blue light. I mean even light

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bulbs to some degree you have blue light. And then

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screens have blue light in them, and it's just a

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mant of we never used to sit in front of

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screens the way that we do today. We're never in

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front of screens for this amount of time. I'll give

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you one statistic that's really eye opening. The average teenager

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college student uses their phone not for work but for

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entertainment purposes, social media and other games and stuff for

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an average of six hours a day. Now, if you're

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sending your kid to a four year of college, that

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means one entire year is sat in front of the

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screen doing nonsense.

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Wow, yeah, no, it's incredible. And even just what you

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just gave us, the just any idea of huh, why

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can't I go to sleep? If I'm looking at this

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blue light which acts like sunlight to me, I I

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respond to sunlight. Man, I'm up and at them. And

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I'm definitely one of those people. I love the getting

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out of movie and throughs in the sun. That makes

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so much sense for me. Justin just realizing and making

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that correlation helped me so much, Like, okay, I could

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put this phone down.

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Yeah, I mean wonderful. We never used to do that.

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We used to actually have conversations, talk to one another,

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watch read books, you know, watch your kids play, you know,

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play games. That type of interaction is far and few

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between compared to sit in front of the TV watching

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a movie, unlimited content. And to be quite honest, why

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are we watching the news? Like why watch the news

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in the morning, because that's going to spike your quartos

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are like nothing, Why do you want to watch the news?

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There's never any good news on the news ever, right,

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And so now it's like watching a horror movie before

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you go to bed, all right, suspend. It's the same

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effect you spiking your your brain, you're spiking your quarters

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are you can't turn your brain off. And that's what

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we want to do. We want to put ourselves into

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a calm state so that we can actually fall to

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sleep and stay asleep. And the way that we work

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these days is asinine. I mean, there used to be

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a news hour. Now there's a news station, and now

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there's twenty four to seven access in use on any

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device that you choose.

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Yeah, yeah, so true. Well, let's let what we've shared

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so far sink into our listeners and viewers while we

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take our first break. I'm your host, Doctor Release Cortez.

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We're in the air with Justin High he's the president

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and CEO of Rebalanced Health. We've been talking about the

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importance of hormones in our life, specifically cortisol. After break,

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we're going to dive more deeply into the technology trap

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that we're all in. We'll be right back.

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now joining us. My guest is Justin High. He's the

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author of Stress Nation, Escape the Technology Trap, Eliminate Stress,

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and Reclaim Rest. So I have to have you talk

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about this because I just said I'm an organizational psychologist

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and I was really really taken aback by what you

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wrote about with in one of your chapters called stress,

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anxiety and clickbait, especially when it comes time to I'm

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going to situate this in the world of intense anxiety, depression,

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and loneliness that we're in. You taught me something very

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interesting about people who are trying to make sure they're

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keeping to themselves through technology and how much worse that's

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making them.

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Yeah, I mean, they're designed to keep you single. They're

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designed right, I mean, that's the whole point of these

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apps is not necessarily, you know, to connect you with

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someone that would be lovely, but most of the time

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it's not. It's designed to keep you continually clicking and

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looking and never content because the way that we used

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to connect was we'd go on a date, or we'd

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go on a second date. We'd move much slower in

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our worlds, and we'd be more selective, and we'd wait

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before we became physically intimate. But intimacy I like to

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break down as into me. You see intimacy, it's beautiful, right,

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you look someone in the eye, you have a conversation,

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you get mentally stimulated before you get physically stimulated. But

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then came along swipe left, swipe right, right, and we

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lost it right, and then the art of the gift

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of the gap, of learning how to talk to one another,

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the fun nonsense of pickup lines, the engagement, the wit,

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the kind of the dance that we would play in

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order to engage with one another. It's gone. It's vanished.

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It's now, do you tick the boxes what I'm looking for?

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You don't know if even ticking the boxes is the

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right approach, but it's the way that we've become very

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systematic and very clinical about choosing a partner versus, Oh

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my goodness, opposites attract. There's a reason for that, right,

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And instead of looking for our clones and so Unfortunately

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we've become alone, and COVID didn't help that. It exacerbated that,

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and it took us to the degree and we never

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really came back from it in the way that we

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probably should have. There's a lot more fear in the

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world than they ever used to be. And you think

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about what life was like in the eighties and the

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nineties and even you know, two thousands, it was a

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lot more carefree and a lot more joy, a lot

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more playfulness. And I long for that and people to

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do that.

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Yes, And one of the many things I like about

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your book is that you help us understand what's working

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against us in the world with especially with regard to

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technology and how it's working with our homewanes, but you

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also tell us what we can do about it. And

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so you also say that you know, real life dating

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is coming back because it works. So going out and

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choosing to be part of organization, tract or meet your

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interest and meeting those humans organically who might be interesting to.

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You absolutely and you're attracted.

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To, Yeah, like who's that, That's he's cute, who's.

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That exactly exactly? So I think this is.

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Important and I know for me, I actually have become

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much more intentional about leaving. You also talk about this

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too in this chapter about you know, get how the

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best thing that you can do is to go out

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and connect with people, Go be involved in your community,

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be involved in your neighborhood. And I'm doing more and

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more of that too, because one thing I've learned by

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hosting this podcast is the pandemic did help us ratchet

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ourselves down, so rewired our brains and our nervous our

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nervous energy, nervous systems, so that would became harder for

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us to be able to go out and socialize. But

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then that's just what we need, is that kind of connection.

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But then you take it one step further justin which

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is really interesting. You have a section in that chapter

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where you're talking about how technology has allowed anxiety disorders

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to really take up to a new realm, because then

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you could take avoidance behaviors to an extreme. I hadn't

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thought about this, but if you're always somebody who's suffering

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from anxiety and depression, and you've got anxiety so that

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you know so great, you can order peace it without

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talking to anybody's They even leave it on your doorstep

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and you don't even have to answer the door anymore. Right,

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But to your point in your book, you say that

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a therapist would often say exposure to their anxieties is

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usually a form of starting the process of healing. And

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if this, if technology allow just to recluse so far,

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how do we get.

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Out of that hole? Yeah? Just think about what's block

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Because the Starbucks used to be. I mean, Starbucks used

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to be a place you go to.

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Social medfa third place or when they call the third place.

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Yeah, now you go there and everyone's head down to

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the laptop on the phone. They're rarely actually having conversations

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with one another. It's a place to go and work,

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like almost like what the library used to be.

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Yeah, you have a section here that which made me

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laugh because you know, as a single person, I always

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whenever I go out to eat, I always sit at

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the bar by myself. Not by myself. I sit at

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the bar so that I can talk to the people

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around me, and I've had some of the most amazing,

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like fantastic conversations by meeting complete strangers. I don't sit

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at the bar, and there are occasions when I will

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work for a bit, but then I at some point

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00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:51.759
I can't help it. I have to connect with people

462
00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:54.759
the bar, so I have to left because my daughter

463
00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.160
teases me incessantly about this.

464
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:00.279
Well, it's it's a skill that you have that she

465
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:02.720
hasn't evolved to yet. I mean, it's like going on

466
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:04.960
an airplane. We used to have conversations with the people

467
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.400
who are left in our right now people put in

468
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:09.960
the headphones and the big ones now and say, you know,

469
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.920
stay away from me, right right, right, yeah, cool to me. Right.

470
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.839
You have some amazing conversations with strangers.

471
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:19.559
On the plane, and I have. I've had actually a

472
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:21.839
few people that I met on planes on this podcast

473
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:23.279
because I got to know them and I was like, oh,

474
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.599
you got to talk about that on my program, right right,

475
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:28.359
so for sure. And then we got to talk about

476
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:30.519
how you know your You have a section it says

477
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.119
your smartphone is smarter than you think and it's playing you.

478
00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.759
So this is where we speak to the idea of

479
00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:38.680
how whatever you're searching for, just you know, if you're

480
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.319
worried about something, concerned about something, you know, all those

481
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.640
searches just give you more additional material on that topic

482
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.000
which could continue to make you concerned. So speak a

483
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.839
bit about just you know the danger there from a try.

484
00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:52.720
I mean, I think every physician on the on the

485
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.039
planet is afraid of the Google MD that you've done.

486
00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.799
You know, you search that particular ELM comment, I'm like,

487
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:05.599
I'm dying. No, you just have a cult, right, But

488
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:08.000
everyone believes they've become an expert. And the problem with

489
00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:13.440
the Internet is you only get good information out of

490
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:17.240
it as to what's been put into it. And unfortunately

491
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:20.039
there's a lot of misinformation that's been put into it.

492
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:22.880
And so even AI is getting a lot of things

493
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.200
wrong right now because it's basically searching that database of

494
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:31.039
online content and not all of that is correct. So

495
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:33.359
what you're getting is kind of you know, it's it's

496
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.920
more you know, fearmongering. It's the end of the world

497
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:40.440
doomsday stuff, when really it was just a cult. The

498
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.039
deal is just a cold.

499
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.480
So you also talk about, and we've sort of mentioned

500
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.599
this before, but when you talk about when followers replace friends,

501
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.079
and it's such a good point, how many of those followers,

502
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:53.920
if you, if you had a dinner party, would actually

503
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:54.720
show up to it.

504
00:25:55.400 --> 00:26:01.039
Well, you know, look, humans are by nature are curious

505
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.279
about what's on the other side of the fence. Right.

506
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.799
The green is always grass out over there. That's just

507
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:09.079
kind of human nature. So we used to compare ourselves

508
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.960
to a handful of individuals within our peer group. Now

509
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:17.359
you're comparing yourself to millions of people online who are

510
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:21.279
only posting what they want you to see. And I

511
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:24.480
love my grandparents because they gave me so much wisdom

512
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.440
and some pearls that I would like to share one

513
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.839
with you, which is if everyone in your peer group

514
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.960
who thought their world was wonderful, if they all were

515
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.759
able to put their problems into the middle of the room,

516
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.759
I guarantee you you'd pick your own problems back up again.

517
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:44.319
Wow, because you never.

518
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:46.880
Ever know what's going on. And I tell my kids

519
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.599
all the time, the internet and social media is simply

520
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.759
what people want you to see. They don't always share

521
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.480
the negative, the tough. They want you to look at

522
00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:59.519
look at me, Look how wonderful I am. Because they're

523
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:04.559
trying to provide a service, a fantasy, a alternative world

524
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:06.559
in which you keep coming back to see what they're

525
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.680
going to do next, what's going to happen, What are

526
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.640
you doing, what are you using? How can they be

527
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.599
like you? But that might not be what's really going

528
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.119
on behind the scenes, and most people know this inherently,

529
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.640
you still get sucked into it.

530
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.960
Yeah, I read it. I like, you know, in real

531
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:24.599
life so much better. But you know, one of the

532
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.440
other things you talked about is, you know, you can

533
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.000
go to any any line that you're in, the grocery line,

534
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.359
in the Starbucks line, and people aren't as you said before,

535
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.240
they're not talking to each other. They're all looking down

536
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.039
at their phones. And for whatever reason, justin I don't

537
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.279
know when I started this, but it was one of

538
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.039
those kind of things where I've just got a radar

539
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.640
for when I see people actually connecting and talking, and

540
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.480
I love to come and celebrate it. And so like

541
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.319
being out for dinner with my daughter and her boyfriend

542
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:50.000
some time ago. We're in this beautiful Italian restaurant here

543
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.720
in Dallas, having a beautiful time, and I can't help

544
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.599
noticing the couples that are actually having conversations.

545
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:56.200
Yep.

546
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:57.960
So I look at my daughter and she looks at me.

547
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.319
She's like, yep, I know, go do your thing. So

548
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:02.960
I walked over to the table just in front of us,

549
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.440
and these people have been talking and connecting the whole

550
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:07.799
entire time. We haven't hed. There was no phones in sight,

551
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.160
and I walked up to them and I said, excuse me,

552
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.720
I don't mean to interrupt, maybe just a little, but

553
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.279
I couldn't help noticing that you have been talking together

554
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.880
the whole entire evening. Are you newly together? And they said,

555
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.039
we've been married twenty five years. And I turned to

556
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.680
the woman and I said, what do you love about

557
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:26.480
this man? And she said, I get to be one

558
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.359
hundred percent authentically me. There's no pretending.

559
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.960
It's so free, Yeah, one hundred percent.

560
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.480
I tried to look at the man, and now he's

561
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.759
starting to get emotional, and I said, what do you

562
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.720
love about this woman? And he said, I can't imagine

563
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:44.440
starting any day without her that beautiful. It's wonderful coming

564
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.680
over to celebrate that, you know, I get so they

565
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:49.839
get to be celebrated and they nobody's ever said get lost,

566
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:51.519
go away, I want to hear from you. Nobody's ever

567
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.480
done that. They feel seen and celebrated, and I get

568
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.920
the benefit of witnessing this beautiful connection and then just

569
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.759
stepping into their space with them. It's like, I think

570
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.039
it's the wonderful antidote for today's That's what I'm saying.

571
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.799
Yeah, absolutely, and you know, not to be self promoting here,

572
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.079
but I've been married and with my wife for over

573
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:14.599
twenty six years. Wow, And we get commented on or

574
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.519
people come up to us almost daily. We go to

575
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.480
the gym every morning together at four point thirty. We're

576
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.720
always giggling, We're always smiling. It is my personal objective.

577
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.759
Over the past five years, I gave myself the challenge.

578
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.160
I wanted to make my wife laugh a minimum of

579
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:36.240
five times every single day, because what we did when

580
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.599
we were flirting and dating can become, you know, forgotten

581
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:46.000
very quickly with the mundane routine of life, kids, stress, financials, mortgage,

582
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.880
you know, work, you name it. And so often found

583
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.079
myself I didn't connect with my wife and I missed that,

584
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.759
and so I act like an absolute buffoon half the

585
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.640
time around her in order to make her laughing giggle,

586
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.119
which fills up my cup, fills up her cup and

587
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.079
is absolutely addictive. And we get people at the gym going,

588
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.400
how are you guys always laughing? How are you guys

589
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.359
always smiling? How are you you know? How are you

590
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:10.359
doing it? That? You always hear? And it's just not

591
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.119
the same without one another. And I think that's what

592
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:16.359
you get from being connected, truly connected and understanding one another.

593
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.680
And that's what marriage for me is about, and it

594
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:24.759
is for her. And again, I think joy is contagious.

595
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:26.440
Happiness is contagious.

596
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.359
I completely agree. In fact, let's go ahead and grab that,

597
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.960
because I love that you have got a section in

598
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.559
your books which is joemo is that is the new

599
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.200
fomo so and I love that. I'm ready that you've

600
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.720
used the word joy several times in this conversation already.

601
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.759
Yeah, joemo is the joy of missing out versus the

602
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.160
fear of missing out, And the fear of missing out

603
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.720
goes to the social media. I mean, social media is

604
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.799
all about the fear of missing out. That's why everyone

605
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.799
is scrolling the length of the Eiffel Tower every single

606
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.720
day on their front right. The average consumer touches their

607
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.119
phone over twenty six hundred times a day, and the

608
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.559
heavy users of a six hundred and so your fear

609
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.519
of missing out? What happened? Why didn't I do it?

610
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.480
What's going on? And you compare that to the good

611
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.000
old fashioned soap operas and shows that we used to

612
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.119
watch as kids, whether you know, throw some crazy names

613
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.200
Dallas or Dynasty or whatever. They bay watch you know,

614
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.119
you name it. It was once a week, once a week,

615
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.559
so you waited. Now people binge watched a whole series

616
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.279
of a weekend. They sit on the couch and so

617
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.160
I think it's really interesting that we look at Jomo

618
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.160
and it's something that I find that the younger kids

619
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.559
are beginning to embrace, like there's actually a joy in

620
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.240
being present. There's a joy in being in the moment

621
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.440
and not always being what am I missing? And I

622
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.640
think part of that is the awkwardness around silence. People

623
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.000
don't like silence anymore and they feel avoid with my

624
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:52.039
phone that you're beginning to build that kind of memory

625
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.920
muscle about oh I'll check this, oh i'll do this.

626
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.839
I'm expecting a text or an email or a phone

627
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.160
call or a social media post, and that's that fear

628
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.599
of missing out versus I don't want my phone. And

629
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:09.319
if you've noticed, there's actually been a recent up search

630
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:15.240
in flip phones the providers now because kids don't want

631
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.559
to be online. It's a phone, it's there for my convenience,

632
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.400
not a you know, I'm not a slave to it,

633
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.559
and I don't have to answer it, and I don't

634
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:26.960
have to respond to every text, so I don't have

635
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.160
to answer every email within thirty seconds of receiving it.

636
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.359
And it's that I'm happy where I am right now

637
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.640
and I will deal with it later when it suits me,

638
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:41.519
which is a wonderful mindset in contrast to every time

639
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.839
I get a vibration, a buzzer, ding, a sound, I

640
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.279
have to pick it up and deal with it. That

641
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.880
spikes our cortisols. Spikes are stressed spikes our adrenaline. Everything

642
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.519
is going on and it prevents us from being in

643
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.839
the moment, and it messes with our homeows.

644
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.599
Thank you for just bringing out home in a way

645
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.759
that I haven't really seen anybody really wrap up so

646
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.000
nicely in a box with a nice pretty bow on top.

647
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.000
Let's grab our last break. I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortez.

648
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.480
We're in the air with Justin High. He's the president

649
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.680
and CEO of Rebalance Health. We've been talking about how

650
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.720
technology traps us in some of the ways that we

651
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.799
can get around that. In this last segment, when we

652
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:20.400
come back from our break, we're going to talk about

653
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.400
what he and his team are doing at Rebalance Health.

654
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:39.880
We'll be right back, Doctor Elise Cortez is a management

655
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.319
consultant specializing in meaning and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author.

656
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.960
She helps companies visioneer for a greater purpose among stakeholders

657
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.480
and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that

658
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:55.839
elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment within the workforce. To learn

659
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.480
more or to invite Elise to speak to your organization,

660
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.319
please visit her at Eliecortes dot com. Let's talk about

661
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:10.679
how to get your employees working on purpose. This is

662
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.000
Working on Purpose with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our

663
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:17.119
program today or to open a conversation with Elise, send

664
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.480
an email to a lease A lisee at Elisecortes dot com.

665
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.679
Now back to working on Purpose.

666
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.159
Thanks for jaaning with us, and welcome back to Working

667
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.840
on Purpose. I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes. As you

668
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.000
know by now, this program is dedicated to empowering and

669
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.840
inspiring you along your journey to realize more of your potential.

670
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.239
I mentioned in the last segment or the last break,

671
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.480
that one of my books just came out, the Great Revialization.

672
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.320
It contains those twenty two best projects to help you

673
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.800
elevate your culture for your organization for today's discerning workforce.

674
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.639
What I did for you as I created a very

675
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.800
simple three page assessment that you can pull off our

676
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.079
website GUSTODESHNEU dot com and it'll help you understand the

677
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.119
extent to which you're mediate those standards if you are

678
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.440
just now joining us. My guest is Justin High He's

679
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:08.280
the author of Stress Nation, Escape of Technology, Trap, Eliminate Stress,

680
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.800
and Reclaim Rest. So for this last bit, I wanted

681
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.800
to dive into one of one of the latest ventures

682
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:16.440
that you've been working on here. I know you've been

683
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.320
a serial entrepreneur, but let's hear the story of what

684
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.880
led you to found Rebalance Health.

685
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.400
Well, that's actually quite easy. The book stress Nation is

686
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:32.079
the why behind Rebalance Health. I wrote it based on

687
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.199
the recommendation of the board to explain the why without

688
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.760
being salesy. I think you can tell there's nothing sales

689
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.880
in the book, very straightforward, talks about the cause and effect,

690
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:43.880
the why, and some lot of tips and techniques on

691
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.519
how to do it. But Rebalance Health is all about

692
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.280
supporting our natural bodies are basically our nervous system in

693
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:57.360
handling stress by leveraging supplements and the supplement that we

694
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:02.079
developed was very unique to cortisols. It's proprietary blend. It's

695
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.519
been clinically tested. We've got over four IOB clinical studies

696
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.119
on the product, and I'm not talking about two or

697
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.280
three people in the study. I'm talking hundreds of people

698
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.440
in the studies to prove that we can get our

699
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.800
product into the body and that it actually works. And

700
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.159
the way that the product works is it's a basically

701
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.079
a mint. He suck on it like a lozenge and

702
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.480
it's a mint, and it has nothing but adapter gens

703
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.239
and Chinese herbs inside of it, and they taste like

704
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.519
an altoid. And what we were able to do was

705
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.800
be able to offset what technology is doing to our

706
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.039
nervous system. So it helps kind of bring us back

707
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.320
into balance. Since the company is called Rebalance, and we

708
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.760
have specific formulas for men, for women, and for sleep.

709
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.760
And what we learned very quickly is that by bringing

710
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:56.159
the natural circadian rhythm back in alignment with our natural body,

711
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:59.000
and by leveraging some of the tips and techniques in

712
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.360
the book, we were able to get people back to

713
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.599
sleep and be able to calm people down. And the

714
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:09.360
big win that we had was. We actually have unprecedented

715
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.639
clinical data for women going through perimenopause. We were able

716
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:19.320
to reduce perimenopausal symptoms significantly. I mean, women were reporting

717
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.679
in eighty percent reduction in hot flashes, a seventy eight

718
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:28.440
percent improvement in mood, and sleep rest recovery. Even libido

719
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.000
had improved. Weight gain was a big win as well.

720
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.559
Women were seeing a up to two pan size reduction

721
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.880
over a twelve week period simply by bringing their cortisol

722
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.280
levels back down into the natural levels so their body

723
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:43.960
can sleep. This is all about sleep, I know it.

724
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.679
We talk about cortisol. It's all causing effect, right, and

725
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.480
we're so used to I'm going to take the medication

726
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.119
per headache. I've got a tummy ache. I'll take that medication.

727
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.639
I've got the flu, I'll take that medication. Well, most

728
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.000
of the elements we suffer from today all stem from

729
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:02.760
high cortisol, which is prevent us from sleeping. Because we're humans,

730
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.119
we need to regenerate. And that's the bottom line. This

731
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.239
is all supporting ultimately sleep where you naturally will make

732
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.480
the hormones you need and then all of a sudden,

733
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.079
miraculously you feel better. I mean, if you stayed up

734
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.719
all night tonight, doctor Cortez working on another book, and

735
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:19.760
you did it the night next night as well. You

736
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.599
would not feel so great the next day versus if

737
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.480
you just slept, you would feel amazing. And that's because

738
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:27.400
of your hormone production.

739
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.639
Well, it occurs to me that you're also in the

740
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.559
business of halting divorce or straining relationships.

741
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:36.760
Right.

742
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.400
So one of the things you talk about in your book,

743
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.320
which I think is incredibly compelling, and listeners and viewers

744
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:43.360
just think about this in your own life for a second.

745
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.360
You know, if you get to be you progress a

746
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.079
little bit through through the years as a woman, and

747
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.880
your homoones start changing. In such your libido is really

748
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.400
either non existent or very very low, and sex just

749
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:57.800
isn't something that you're interested in or it's painful. And

750
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.000
yet man on the other side, they have the little

751
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.440
Blue pill helper which can help them want to have

752
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.519
sex anywhere, anywhere, anytime, anywhere.

753
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:06.599
So what a.

754
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.599
Horrible combination, right, I mean, this has got to be

755
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.280
somebody's got to be laughing about this somewhere, right, And

756
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.880
so you're helping to address that really significant societal issue justin.

757
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.199
Well, i'd like to speak to that. To some degree.

758
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.119
Men go through menopause as well. It's called Andrew you

759
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.400
say that, yeah, yeah, and they start in their thirties,

760
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.719
mid thirties, and it ends in their seventies. So men

761
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.280
go through it over roughly or forty year period, and

762
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.320
the symptoms are identical to women's, but on a significantly

763
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:36.599
less intense scale. Right, maybe for one percent, very very little.

764
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.320
We get half flashes, right, Guys that throw their covers

765
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.280
off at night and hot they were having a hot flash.

766
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.559
Men gain weight, they lose their libido, you know, they

767
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:50.039
lose their hair, and they lose their memory, and it's

768
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:55.000
all very very similar. They get moody, et cetera. Women, unfortunately,

769
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:58.480
are very blessed that they go through this special transition

770
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.800
that ever might work a period time, and the symptoms

771
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.679
are exacerbated, you know, whatever percentage you want to put,

772
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:09.239
it's ridiculously unfair, no question. Finally, I actually put myself

773
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:13.800
through exaggerated Andrew pause by taking my estrogen to zero,

774
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:17.239
and I had hot flashes every literally forty five minutes

775
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.440
for four weeks. I said, I can't do it anymore.

776
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:24.960
So I have a lot of empathy. Relationships are difficult

777
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:28.239
at any stage in life, but definitely as men and

778
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.960
women go through this midlife transition, which is a beautiful thing.

779
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.400
It's just like puberty, it's just you know, an older phase.

780
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.000
I think it gives a lot of women and men

781
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:42.199
a lot of freedom to change their outlook. You have

782
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.119
the you know, I don't give a f you know

783
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.440
phase of my life for women, and I think it's

784
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:50.039
beautiful and wonderful. But with the right sleep and the

785
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:53.920
right support, whether it be HRT, whether it be rebalanced health,

786
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.920
whether it be you know, anything like that, it's very

787
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:02.159
manageable and it's very easy to get through this process

788
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.119
with the right support. And the problem is women haven't

789
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.960
been given that support at all. And right now they're

790
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.599
the largest demographic of women going through perimenopause that has

791
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:14.639
ever gone through. It think's over one hundred and fifty

792
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:19.360
million women a year enter perimenopause. And there's a lack

793
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:21.920
of information out there, and so I've really been doing

794
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.199
my very best to try and educate everyone as to

795
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.280
what is actually going on, and there's so much misinformation

796
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.559
out there. It's challenging to get through the noise. But

797
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.800
it really comes down to sleep and I know women

798
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.519
say that's a chicken and egg. Right. I can't sleep.

799
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.119
That's why I'm having all these symptoms. I can't make

800
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:41.039
the hormones and you know, and so I want to

801
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.360
feel better. But it's sort about all the techniques I've

802
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.719
given you in the book, all the tips, and they're

803
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.320
not easy. I mean we're talking about you know, what

804
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.760
does alcohol do. Well, it's a stimulant, it's not a sedative.

805
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.239
A lot of women and men take wine at night

806
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.920
and guess what, two or three hours after you've consumed,

807
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.480
it turns to sugar. Now you're awake. Right, If we

808
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:03.119
have a heavy mail, we drink lots of the evening,

809
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.119
we're aging. Our bladders can't do what they used to.

810
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.920
Our body is going to wake us up in the

811
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:10.920
night to use the bathroom. So you kind of have

812
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.880
to set yourself up for success. So there's many kind

813
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.079
of things that we've taken for granted because we just

814
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.239
felt entitled or we deserved it, and that is actually

815
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.880
counterintuitive to what we actually need as we go through

816
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:24.840
this aging process.

817
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.800
Well, I can tell you from my own experience, it

818
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.760
just it became such my normal that I didn't know

819
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:31.519
to question it.

820
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:31.920
Justin.

821
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.719
I mean, I was waking up at two thirty three

822
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.280
o'clock in the morning and I was completely unable to

823
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.119
get back to sleep until five thirty or so, and

824
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.559
I just accepted that this is, you know, the reality

825
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.239
of it all. So it became such a normal part

826
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.280
of my life that, you know, I think that's also

827
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.679
what happens to it becomes insipious in terms of our incipient,

828
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.840
in terms of our everyday life.

829
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.280
Absolutely, we've never questioned it. We've always thought it's the norm,

830
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.400
and it's very easy to get in that and when

831
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.400
you actually you know, when I was doing the research,

832
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:04.679
I'm like, well, of course, this makes so much sense.

833
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.480
But there's so much noise out there because we've got

834
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.960
so much technology and new toys being thrown at us,

835
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:12.840
it's so easy to get distracted.

836
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.920
So true, Well, as we come to a close here

837
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.760
in the show, i'd love it if you could share,

838
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:21.920
you know, maybe as an example of someone how they

839
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.239
they've used their products, their life has been changed. I'm

840
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.159
sure you have plenty of case studies, but just to

841
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:27.400
bring it to life for us.

842
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.320
Yeah, we get a lot of women calling us or

843
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.760
emailing us and telling us that we've changed our life

844
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.519
with our supplements in our book, because you know, they're like,

845
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.039
I've got my life back. My kids like me again,

846
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:44.039
my husband likes me again, my men going. I'm not

847
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.280
grouchy anymore. I am sleeping. I understand it. I got

848
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:49.519
to play with my wife and my kids. I finally

849
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:53.360
feel like I used to feel. And I think we've

850
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.239
just let society has just evolved in a way that

851
00:43:56.280 --> 00:44:00.440
we think more is better and faster the way to

852
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.880
get to more, and we've never questioned at what expense

853
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:09.559
that is. And so you know, my only guidance is

854
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:15.400
try and play more, put the phone down. And one

855
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.039
last analogy is would you drive your family across country

856
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.920
get in four hours of sleep? No, you wouldn't because

857
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.599
it wouldn't be safe. So why aren't we making decisions

858
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.840
about our companies and our financial lives with the same

859
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:33.159
lack of sleep. We're not making good decisions. And so

860
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.199
if we can take a breath, we can slow down

861
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.519
a little bit and we use it for better, you know,

862
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.639
for the goodness. I put the take the frick in

863
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:43.440
social media off your phone. I put it on my

864
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.559
laptop only so it's purposeful. It's on my computer. I

865
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.400
need it for work or use it or look at it,

866
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:50.960
but it's not on my phone. So I'm not going

867
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.639
to sit on the toilet for hours and get lost

868
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:55.159
to go down the rabbit hole and all of a

869
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:57.760
sudden my legs are number right. We don't do that anymore.

870
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:04.039
We have absolute purpose for how we use technology.

871
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.559
Here here, Justin. That is amazing. I have to say,

872
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:06.360
I'm so grateful.

873
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:06.599
You know.

874
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.199
One of the things I told you host an is

875
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.639
show for eleven years, about ninety eight percent of my

876
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.000
guests come to me through a public relations representative or

877
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.880
somebody who's helping you socialize your book. And I wouldn't

878
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:18.719
have any other reason to know you Justin, and you've

879
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.760
written something really powerful. I got a ton out of it.

880
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.519
You've already helped me as I told you, so, Thank

881
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.840
you very much. I don't know if you know this,

882
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.119
but the show system by people around the world who

883
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:31.840
generally tune in because they're trying to become better versions

884
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.400
of themselves as a human. They want to become better leaders,

885
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:36.760
or they want to run their company in a better way.

886
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:38.039
What would you like to leave them with?

887
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.679
Just envision the person you want to be and make

888
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.000
it happen. You don't have to listen to anybody or anything.

889
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:52.039
It's all within yourselves. We've always been marketed to in

890
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.119
the past thirty years in a way that we believe

891
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.639
that we're inferior and that we don't know. But most

892
00:45:56.679 --> 00:46:00.760
people's intuition are spot on and they get it, they

893
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.519
know the right things to do. We just get caught

894
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.360
up in the noise so easily, and simply getting up

895
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.400
from your desk and going for a walk for fifteen

896
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:14.639
minutes outside without your phone, let your thoughts percolate. Naturally,

897
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:16.840
you'd be amazed at what you can achieve and what

898
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.719
you can do when you put your mind to it.

899
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.559
And we don't need to rely on AI, and we

900
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.719
don't need to rely on this. You naturally gifted, and

901
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.280
I think people forget that, and we've become lazy and

902
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.320
we rely on the technology to such a degree now

903
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:35.960
that it's actually got bigger consequences to not only those decisions,

904
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.920
but our health and our psyche completely agree.

905
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:42.320
So grateful that you're in the world helping us navigate this.

906
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.280
Justin thank you so much for coming on working on

907
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:45.400
a purpose to talk about this.

908
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:47.800
Thank you doctor Cortez. I appreciate your time.

909
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.119
Very welcome. Listeners and viewers. You are going to want

910
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.880
to learn more about Justin High, his book Stress Nation,

911
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.960
and the workiness team do at Rebalance Health I recom.

912
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.559
When you start reguisitting their website, it's rebalancehealth dot com

913
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:03.280
just as as it sounds, rebalance health dot com. Last week,

914
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:04.880
if you missed the live show, you can always catch

915
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.800
it we recorded podcast. We were on air with Michael

916
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.519
Yang talking about his book Coming Alive on the Ride

917
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.719
as his life as an entrepreneur. So we talked about

918
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.599
his immigration experience from South Korea when he was fourteen

919
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:21.519
years old, some of the experiences he had writing forty

920
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.320
thousand miles by motorcycle and what they taught him about

921
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.400
himself and his life. And we also heard about how

922
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:32.840
he nurtured his entrepreneur appetite and his career and ultimately

923
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.000
sold his two year old company for seven hundred and

924
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.119
fifty million dollars. Pretty amazing, very inspiring. Next week we'll

925
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.519
be on the air with Ryan Godfredson talking about his

926
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:46.000
book Becoming Better, the groundbreaking Science of Personal Transformation. See you. Then,

927
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.599
let's continue leaning into discovering how to elevate your operating

928
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.880
system as a leader and create destination workplaces where legendary

929
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.239
business takes place. Let's work on Purpose.

930
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:00.679
We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

931
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.400
tune into Working on Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,

932
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.800
each week on W four CY. Together we'll create a

933
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:12.440
world where business operates conscientiously. Leadership inspires and passion performance

934
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.320
and employees are fulfilled in work that provides the meaning

935
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:19.159
and purpose they crave. See you there, Let's work on Purpose.