The Legacy and Gift of Teaching Philanthropy

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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,

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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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Today we celebrate philanthropy and living and
working with purpose. With us today is

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the dynamic duo of Bob Hopkins and
Admit Bannergy. Bob is a philanthropist,

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educator, and change make up to
all kinds of things in life, and

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Admit is the CEO of Philanthropy Kids, a nonprofit dedicated at helping and celebrating

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inspiring philanthropy in youth. He's also
a student at SMU studying electrical engineering,

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and, like Bob, involved in
a whole host of other philanthropic efforts.

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We're recording this together in Bob's office
in Dallas, Texas. Bob and admit,

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welcome to working on purpose. Thank
you, thank you, thank you,

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Thanks for having us. It's so
great to have you both here,

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both of you, two handsome in
Sorry listeners that you can't actually see them,

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but I can. So let's start
if we can here. Bob,

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you and I met several years ago, and I had you on the radio

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show a couple of years ago.
We'll talk about that in just a second,

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but catch us up. What are
you up to in the world.

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You're you're out changing the world,
making a difference. You're a role model,

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You're an activist. I don't even
know when you sleep. You're tireless,

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you're writing a book, you're teaching
in Texas and Mexico. What else,

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what else? What else? Whatever
you tell me to do, I'm

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going to do. You know,
at least I'm one of these people that

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takes opportunity and I tell my students
I'm a college professor and tell my students

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take opportunity, don't miss out.
Somebody says let's go someplace, do it.

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Go if she can. Anyway,
thank you for inviting us. I

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have a manergy with me. We've
known each other for a number of years.

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Ad and I have He was in
fourth grade now he's a junior in

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college. He was in fourth grade
when he was in my class. It

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was called Philanthropy and Volunteerism in Entrepreneurship
PAVE. It was an organization that I

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created nineteen ninety seven something like that, And I don't remember exactly when a

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Meat was in my class. But
we've been connected all these years. His

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mother, and his brother and his
dad, they're all connected as well.

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We've even taken a trip together to
Mexico to do good good things like paint

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a school for children and do some
social entrepreneurship work. We took ten other

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people with us, and so we
are now talking about going to India next

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December and take students with us,
and we're going to do the same thing,

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work with children, teaching social entrepreneurship. So back to your question,

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what am I doing these days?
I'm constantly thinking about what I'm going to

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do next, and your program is
about purpose. I think we all are

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hunting for purpose, and I'm hunting
for the next thing I do. But

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right now I'm teaching college and still
working with my paved program. A couple

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of things that I want to say
really quick, and one is that I

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stand for this place of really celebrating
our one precious life. What are you

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going to do with this one precious
life? And I really am struck by

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all the both of you are up
to, and I meet so many people

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and I often wonder to myself,
is that all you really want from this

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one precious life? That's all you
want? You two are the other end

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of the spectrum of course, right
we really really do want and want to

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give a lot to this life.
And I want to share for our listeners,

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Bob, that when I interviewed you, interviewed you back in March of

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twenty sixteen, we were in your
classroom for the radio show conversation. And

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one of the things that I've never
been ab to forget about that conversation is

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when I ask you the question,
I said, Bob, what is it

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that motivates you? Where does all
this energy come to do? Everything you're

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up to do you remember what you
told me. No, you got this

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really soft, thoughtful look on your
face, and you said something along the

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lines of, I just want to
make sure that I've done enough. Isn't

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that beautiful? Oh well, I
don't know, I think this. So

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that's one of the reasons I had
to have you come back. So you

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said in that conversation, one of
the things we talked about is the reason

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you do the work that you do, especially with your with your volunteerism education

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programs, is that you believe,
and maybe you have research on this,

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that when you teach young people to
volunteer and be philanthropic, that you then

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set them on the path of life
to be able to avoid incarceration, to

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avoid being poor. That it's really
it really will lift up a society in

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many, many, very many ways. Can you say more about that perspective?

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Well, now that you're talking and
you're asking me these questions, you

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know, at least people ask me
why do I do what I do?

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And it's not because I feel like
I have to be busy all the time.

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But my answer is quite simple,
it's what makes me happy. And

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I guess then you have to find
what is happiness? And I don't know,

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but when I look at the projects
that I create, or the students

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who are listening to what I have
to say and they respond and they get

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it and they light up, that
makes me happy. And I can remember

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being in Mexico working with children and
after a semester going in once a week

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with students and seeing them shake hands
and see a child change just because of

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a handshake. You know, tears
started rolling down my cheeks because it made

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me happy to see somebody be changed
because of something that I created long ago.

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And I think that's the answer.
Here is what makes you happy?

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And I know purpose obviously is what's
going to make people happy, But can

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you define yourself when you were happy
and what made you happy? Was it

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ice cream? Or was it a
kiss or was it a hug or was

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it somebody who said something to you? I don't know. At the end

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of the day, when you go
to bed and you go to bed happy,

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think you know what happened that day. I guess that's the purpose.

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Well, that's beautiful, and I
think I would add something to that.

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From what I know of you and
how I've seen you work, is that

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when we when we stand in our
purpose and we get to live our purpose

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through our work or through our lives, it gives something to us. Let's

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us stand in a place of inspiration. And I think those tears that you

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felt were probably also tears of being
moved, that you were inspired by what

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you saw in that child. I'm
going to guess in addition to being happy,

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yes, no, kind of sort
of yes, kind of sort of.

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And you know, I'm looking at
him met here, and that's he's

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the one who makes me happy because
I met him when he was nine years

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old and now he's twenty, and
I have seen him develop through the years

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being just a student in my class
and hearing a word philanthropy and I'll let

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him talk and then see what he's
done with his life, which is unbelievable

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and amazing. Well, and talk
about impacting making a difference, And so

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I'll get to that in just a
second, amitt. I definitely want to

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share you with our listeners. But
the thing about this is, I think

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most people get up in the morning, and I don't think few of us

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get up and go. You know, I hope that nobody notices that I'm

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around today. I hope that nobody
really gets the memo that I exist.

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I doubt very few of us get
up that way. Most of us want

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to get up and know that our
lives make a difference, and we individually

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matter. I'm seeing nodding heads,
and so certainly you are an example,

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I believe of somebody who's really mattering, Bob, and so were you,

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Amit. So the reason we're having
this conversation is when I went back and

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revisited that conversation that we had back
in March of twenty sixteen, and I

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looked at that paved program that you're
up to, and I thought, wouldn't

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it be interesting if we could talk
with somebody who's been through that program and

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see how it might have affected them. Did it actually make a difference to

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which is why we're here today.
And you suggested we talk with Amit,

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which I think is fantastic. So
let's turn it over to you, Amit.

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Hello, Welcome to working on Purpose. Hi there, It's just so

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great to see you're twenty years old
and you're you're really up to amazing things.

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I mean, you've got this nonprofit
that you started which we want to

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hear about. You're a student studying
at Southern Methodist University Electrical Engineering, and

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you do all kinds of other volunteer
activities. It's really impressive, amit.

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So first, would you just say
a little bit about help us understand your

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world. Speak up a little bit
so we can hear you what you pour

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yourself into. Say more about who
you are. So I like to live

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my life by this kind of four
part mantra. I like to think,

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I like to learn, I like
to help people, and I like to

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help people help people. And you
say that one more time, place,

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that's great your mantra, one more
time. I like to think, I

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like to learn, I like to
help people, and I like to help

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people help people. And so,
whether it's the academic part of my life

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or the philon part of my life, I'm always trying to incorporate all four

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of those kind of tenants into what
I'm doing. So when I'm in the

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classroom at SMU, while you know
I'm thinking, you know, I'm learning

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about math or history or whatever it
might be, I'm also trying to think,

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how can I put a failm topic
angle to this. And when I'm

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out in the film community, like
I'm volunteering I'm getting my friends involved with

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community service and volunteerism, but I'm
also thinking of it in a kind of

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in a different way, like how
can I be innovative with this? How

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can I be more analytical and how
can I be more thorough to make it

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more make the impact more effective?
And or I guess more or create more

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of an impact. I guess that
is what I'm trying to say. Okay,

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two fault questions if I can.
Yeah, First, we were studying

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electrical engineering. Why electrical engineering?
So I when I was in school,

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like middle school and high school,
I figured that I realized it was good

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at math. And then like when
I started taking physics classes, I really

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liked physics and I thought it was
cool because it kind of explained, oh,

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when you drop a pencil, this
is why it falls to the ground,

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And that was just fascinating me.
And it was something I was better

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at than some of the other subjects. So I thought, let me look

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into that. I also have been
interested in clean energy and finding renewable energy

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sources, and with a background an
electrical engineering, I could be more informed

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when advocating that or even like you
know, developing something if it comes to

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that, Oh my gosh, that's
beautiful, really really impressive. It's just

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so many young people when they're out
considering what shall I study, I don't

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think put that kind of thought into
it. Yes, they think about what

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am I good at, which is
great, that's very very important, But

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then considering what do I do with
that in the world. I think as

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a young person that can be very
hard. So the fact that you can

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connect that with renewable inner and other
things that you're interested in, I think

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that's that's phenomenal. So the second
question is, and it might point to

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what we're going to get to here, is it sounds like you've got this

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lens for philanthropy, so you want
to sprinkle that in what you're doing with

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your conversations and the work that you're
doing with your work with your found your

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organization. What's your bent on that? Why is it so important to you?

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So I'll tell you a little story
about kind of how I got introduced

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to the word philanthropy. As Bob
mentioned, when I was nine, I

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was in fourth grade. I was
I'm a co elementary in Carrollton, Texas,

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and one day my teacher said,
Hey, there's this guy, Bob

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Hopkins. He's going to teach this
course for the next eight weeks. It's

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called PAVE. It's answered Philanthropy and
Volunteer as an Education. And I was

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I was a you know, fourth
grade. I was like, Okay,

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I guess, well, I guess
that's what it's going to be for the

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next eight weeks. And on the
first day of this eight week course,

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uh, miss Shoppins writes on the
board philanthropy, and underneath it he writes

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philos and anthropope the Greek or Latin
stems, the Greek stems for love and

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mankind. And he tells us philanthropy
is a big word, but all it

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means is the love of mankind.
And it was that sentence, that statement

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that kind of got all these gears
turning in my head. And over the

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course of eight weeks, we learned
everything from how to write like a letter

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asking for donations to a specific cause, to how do you interact with the

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high network potential donor and like as
a as a fourth grader, we're learning

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about strong like strong communication skills that
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community. And so this this class
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worldview and realizing that I can integrate
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raising money or donating money. It's
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when Miss Hopkins kind of took us
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live a philanthropic life every single days
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year old. That still holds true. I really try to keep that through

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and through and I've stayed connected with
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projects together. We're still doing a
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that focus. It's all focused around
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your rich role to be a philanthropist, you just have to care. That's

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beautiful. And on that note,
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and welcome back to working on Purpose. If you're just joining us,

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My guests are Bob Hopkins and a
Meet Bannershe Emmett Amit Banershe. Bob is

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a philanthropist, educator, and changemaker
up to all kinds of things in life

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and admit is the CEO of Philanthropy
Kids, a nonprofit dedicated to celebrating and

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inspiring philanthropy in youth. Is also
a student at Southern Methodist University studying electrical

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engineering, and, like Bob,
involved in a ho host of other philanthropic

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efforts. I'm your host, Police
Cortez, So if we can go back,

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I mean, I want to hear
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experience because like both of you,
I'm also making a difference in the world

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and being able to really presence for
us. Really, why that that original

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class stuck with you? I mean
you could have forgotten this. I mean

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you were in fourth grade. I
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It was we say in Texas.
You have slept since then, so you

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could have forgotten this stuff, but
it did. It didn't leave you.

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So tell us a little bit more
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that original class has continued to affect
you. So a little bit of background,

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Like my parents were very involved with
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up, and they were always encouraging
me to be involved in things, and

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you care about the community and be
active in the community. I was also

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involved in Boy Scouts. I was
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first grade, and I've stayed that
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to a community service and volunteerism,
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PAVE was structured in such a way
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like breadth that philanthropy can cover.
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it was a very kind of academic
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unquote learn on the fly otherwise.
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regarding the philanthropic world. And it
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could understand, but it wasn't dumbed
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We learned everything about how to identify
causes that we care about. We

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had to choose between several nonprofits to
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for over the eight week period,
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at an onprofit and say I like
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organization, and I like what they
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potential donors, so when we do, like reach out to them for financial

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support for our donation drive, we
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create these really strong first impressions that
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acquire those donations. And these are
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usually exposed to. But it was
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organized and well executed to where we
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is quote unquote an adult topic that, like you know, nine year olds

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are not talking about day to day, but it's something that it entered our

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conversation afterwards. Okay, got it. Now, when did you start philanthropy?

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Kits, what year was at?
How old were you? So after

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I graduated the pay program, the
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was always like it just kind of
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and I was working on an Eagle
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the Eagle Scout rank is to execute
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knew that mister Hopkins was the expert
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out to him and said, Hi, mister Hopkins, I'm working on my

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Eagle Scout project and I know you
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meet and talk about what potential project
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immediately we like, just it's been
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so a few years removed from the
pay program, but we were still hit

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the ground running and decided, let's
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kids, or highlight kids doing good. However bigue, however small, and

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thus Philanthy Kids started. You were
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magazine. Yes, it's a magazine, okay, because I was publishing a

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magazine at the time called Philanthropy in
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so we determined through our discussions that
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but it had a different focus.
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about kids doing good things, and
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but he got it done and did
his first issue that he got his Eagle

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Scout. And we're still continuing.
I mean, here we are. He

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was fourteen then and now he's twenty
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me just say something really important here. Number one is he comes from an

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upper middle class family. He's got
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care a lot about this child,
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do anything by himself. They're they're
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really important in the development of a
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Okay, So anyway, his mother
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nonprofit organization, and he's the CEO
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nonprofit organization. So we're still working
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India now and take students there to
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with students that he already knows from
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nagpoor, nagpoor in part of India
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center. Okay, they've already been
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our annual trips to go with students
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think the parents thing is really important. Another thing is really what I have

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determined though, is that if we
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need to change kids who are poor. Yes, so how do I get

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to poor kids? Well, I
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usually I get the best, your
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really bad. And I said,
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kids. And I took students with
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to see if we could change the
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of children who are in poverty and
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schools where the rich kids are,
because we see that kids are kids,

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and if we can change what they
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doing drugs and alcohol and drop out
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be an electrical engineering engineer because they
have these role models. Now they're coming

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out of colleges and that's where fits
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self esteem and trying to boost that
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working with, helping them find their
purpose and helping them realize I, as

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a kid can do something meaningful.
And that's what that's one of my favorite

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parts about the pay program. As
a student and now as like more an

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administrator, I want to be involved. Pick me, Yeah, you can

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go, you can go. You
want to go to India? Seriously,

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I love India. I've been there
in twenty fourteen. I love it.

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I love your country and it's beautiful. It's the culture is astounding, breathtaking.

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Your food it's magnificent and makes me
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it. But that was a great, great edition. Thank you both for

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adding that. And at this point
I do want to I want to just

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surface for our listeners. You're your
connection. So Bob, first, what

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did you see in a met You
met him when he was nine years old,

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what did you see in this young
man? I didn't see anything when

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I taught the class because he was
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he wasn't necessarily a standout because all
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But obviously what we said to him
about philanthropy, he went and told his

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dad, I want to do something
in philanthropy. And his dad went found

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my email address and said, you
don't know us, but we know you.

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We met you when E met was
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of course five years later. Would
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meet every month for about six months
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made me happy to see what I had

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created and what was happening now with
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so excited to go see the family
because you know what, I changed mom,

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and I changed dad. And then
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another son who also got his ego
Scout and he's just as much a part

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of all of this as the and
his mother says, this changed our whole

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family. Oh that's so great,
Bob, I know like our dinner table

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conversation. There's so much different than
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paper room or like the fact that
like you know, I mentioned my mindset

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changed, but yeah, everyone in
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changed, like they just continue to
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have. And so like the pay
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outside of the just the classroom,
it goes back home too. And now

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I have a book called Philanthropy Misunderstood. Yeah, I want to hear about

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that. I'm going to ask you
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people who are doing great things and
why they do them and what they get

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out of it. Because I think
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I think everybody wants to find out
what can I do? What can I

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do? And so I think that
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not just my experiences. So I
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in the book who are and of
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over the years, and I wasn't
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I worked with them. Though I've
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I've been to Mexico three four times
with people who are doing significant things

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for others, and so it's not
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you know, it's building something.
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book, it's not what you bought, it's what you've built. And so

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it's programs. And these could be
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what the focus is. The focus
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philanthropy, which is called the love
of mankind. Okay, So anyway,

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hopefully people will get ideas from reading
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because we all can do something and
it's just that we just don't know what

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it is. And that's where we
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of things about that, Bob.
When is the book coming out? It'll

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be out in October October twenty nineteen. Let's watch for that listeners. Philanthropy

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Misunderstood. Yeah, that's what it's
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to say about that that I think
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I'm writing a book too. It
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write a book, takes something to
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about what you're up to, and
that that book initiative is that you're trying

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to one showcase the contributions of other
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do something like that, but two
to be able to provide something that maybe

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gives ideas to others for how they
Two can one find their own purpose and

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to contribute meaningfully. That's beautiful.
Yeah, that's the purpose of the book.

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I did a questionnaire, are you
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a giver? Or do you learn
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people say they learned it. I
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who'd you learn it from? Well? I learned it because my mother.

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She took me here, here,
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This My dad, he was in
a Lions club. He was doing pancakes

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on Main Street downtown Garden City,
Kansas. And I watched him do that,

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and then I watched him knock on
doors asking for money for the church.

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And then I saw my mom,
and then I saw my dad,

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and then they put me in stuff, and I was doing stuff all the

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time, but I didn't know it
was philanthropy. I just figured it was

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a way of living. But you
know what, Alis, and this is

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what disturbs me, is that there's
so many millions of people in the United

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States who don't have a purpose because
nobody ever taught them that they needed one.

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We have people in our country who
are just barely getting by. They

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don't have time to volunteer, they
don't have time to make a difference.

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Oh so well, said Bob.
And on that note, let's take our

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last break. I'm Elise Cortez,
your host. We've been on the air

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with Bob Hopkins and Admit Bannerge.
Bob is a philanthropist, educator, and

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00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.039
change maker up to all kinds of
things in life, and Admit is the

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CEO of Philanthropy Kids, a nonprofit
dedicated to sell writing inspiring philanthropy in youth.

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We are together in Bob's office for
this conversation. After the break,

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we're going to hear more about what
the two of them are up to.

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Stay with us, we'll be right
back. Alise Cortez is a speaker and

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engagement and development catalyst. She designs
and delivers professional development, leadership and engagement

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workshops and can bring her expertise to
your organization. She will help ignite meaningful

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development within your workforce that will increase
employee engagement, performance and retention. To

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learn more or to invite Elise to
speak to your organization, please visit her

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at www dot Elise Cortez dot com. She would welcome the opportunity to help

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get your employees working on purpose.
This is working on Purpose with Elise Cortez.

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To reach our program today, send
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Elise Cortez dot com. Now back
to working on purpose. Thanks for staying

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with us, and welcome back to
working on purpose if you just tune in

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00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.440
now. My guest is Bob Hopkins
and Amit Energy. Bob is philanthropist,

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educator, and changemaker up to all
kinds of things in life. And Amit

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is the CEO of Philanthropy Kids,
a nonprofit dedicated to celebrating and inspiring philanthropy

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and youth. And he's also a
student at Southern Methodist University here in Dallas

438
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studying electrical engineering and like Bob,
involved in a ho host of other philanthrophic

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efforts. I'm your host, Elise
Cortez. So, gentlemen, for this

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last bit of time here together,
let's talk a little bit about what you're

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both up to together. So I
met you. You are the CEO of

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Philanthropy Kids. I did notice that
there was a person, a woman who

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had your similar last name. Now
I know what's your mother that she could

444
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.160
Here's a great thing is I thought
she could actually be your sister, which

445
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.480
is fantastic. I'm envious of that, really, So you can pass that

446
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.160
on to her, would you please? Okay, she can give me a

447
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.519
hug later on. So let's talk
about what you're up to, what do

448
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you do and if we have to
be kids. So right now we're trying

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to We're always on the hunt for
stories. We're always asking students, asking

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kids around the world like, hey, if you're doing good, send us

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your story. It could be anything
from holding a door open for someone to

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creating an international nonprofit that builds wells
in third world countries. And so we're

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always on the hunt for stories and
we're always wanting to publish them. And

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we're moving to a digital medium,
integrating more on social media and things like

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that. Additionally, We're trying to
expand the pay program as much as we

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can because the more kids that we
can reach out to and teach about philanthropy,

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the more kids will know about phlanthropy. And as Bob mentioned, it's

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incredibly important to like helping them find
their purpose and stuff like that. So

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those are kind of the two projects
that we've had and we're still continuing to

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do. We have a class starting
actually in June. Every Saturday in June

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for three hours from nine until twelve
with lunch. Every Saturday that would be

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five we will be working with twenty
students and they have to sign and they

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have to pay, and as they
pay fifty bucks or something like that,

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and it includes their lunch, and
they get volunteer fundraising people who have been

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through the paid program to be part
of this deal, and a meet would

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be there. I will be there, his mother will be there. And

467
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then we have a teacher who's been
through the pay program and helped develop it,

468
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named Alison Johnson. She was a
student of mine at Eastfield College ten

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years ago, went to SMU,
graduated doing wonderful things as well, but

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this is her volunteer activity. So
in June, if you can tell people

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how to get in touch with us, of course, and they want us

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sign up there would be terrific And
well, let's do this real quick.

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Then, So for listeners, you
just heard two things, two calls to

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action here. One is if you
know a story of a kid who spent

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up to something, you got to
reach out and tell these two about that.

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And then two, if you want
to be part of this class in

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June or other classes in the future
on the PAVE program, then you want

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to reach out to go if they
go to philanthropy Kids dot org. Yeah,

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there's a contact feature, right,
Yeah, it is a contact feature.

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And if you go to philengthy Kids
dot org slash submit, they'll be

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able to submit a story. And
if you go to philengthpy kids dot org

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slash pave pa V they'll be able
to find out more information about our upcoming

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programs. Okay, so two more
things real quick. So I think it's

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important that we that we understand that
just really what's happened here with the two

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of you, which I just really
applaud and appreciate and want to celebrate,

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00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:55.800
is that. So Bob Hopkins started
this PAVE program, this educational outreach and

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got involved with you, and you've
grown up as a as a it is

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a very entrepreneurial young man. So
I want to talk about entrepreneurship as well.

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And somewhere along the line something happened
magically and that those two worlds collided,

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and that I believe Philanthropy Kids acquired
the pay Program and now the two

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of you were working together. Yeah. So, like I started playing the

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Kids as my ecoSCOPE project, and
at the time, the focus was created

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this magazine as we collect stories and
publish these stories. And then I was

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working with mister Hopkins on it like
as like he was a mentor during the

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whole process and he was very involved
in the creation of that. Additionally,

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mister Hopkins is still the Pay Program
was still alive and still a functional organization,

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and we thought, hey, we're
already working together. Let's see if

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we can just you know, do
both. And so mister Hopkins called me,

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I think in twenty thirteen and said, hey, let's revamp the pay

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Program. It'll be like UNDERFLANDPY Kids
and will integrate entrepreneurship. So instead of

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philanthropy and volunteers in education, it'll
be filming philanthropy and volunteerism in entrepreneurship,

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and it'll still you know, have
the education aspect in it. It's still

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a course, but we not only
do all the nonprofit analysis and all the

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00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:30.679
communication skills development, we're now also
adding social entrepreneurship skills and things like that

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to the curriculum. Brilliant. It's
so brilliant, and that was mister Hopkins's

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00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.639
idea. It's brilliant. It's so
it's so time late, so so relevant.

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00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:46.320
Who reads your publication? So our
target audience is kids who are you

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know, theoretically they see another if
they're in eight year old and they read

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a story about another eight year old, they get the idea that, oh,

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this eight year old did something cool
that helps someone. I can do

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that too. But we also have
a lot of adults that are eating it,

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that are just interested in saying,
oh, look at what these kids

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are up to. They're doing a
lot of meaningful things with their life at

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twelve years old, fourteen years old, five years old. And so it's

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kind of a mixed audience in terms
of age ranges. I want to go

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back to what you said earlier about
that I was going to pick up on

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a night then I forgot about it, and that was what you said when

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kids are involved in some kind of
volunteerism and what that does for their lives,

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00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.960
and what you just said there at
so what a beautiful contribution to the

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world that you are giving young people, kids an opportunity to see for themselves

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what they could contribute to the world
at a very young age. I could

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do that too. That kid did
it, I could do it too.

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That is such a beautiful contribution.
And so what I know from the work

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that I do in the purpose space
is that when we are focused on contributing

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to other people, it takes away
our focus on ourselves and it makes us

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00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:59.719
healthier, happier human beings. And
when we can stand in that place,

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it really does take away depression,
which is a big problem in the world

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today. And to your point earlier
about helping to start to eradicate poverty and

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a life of crime, that goes
a long long way. And if you're

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here together working where you're trying to
really help instill in the young minds of

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people the possibility of really contributing on
this kind of a scale and starting to

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discover their own purpose again, I'm
completely in I want to completely celebrate anything

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00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.840
that you're up to and support it. So I'm happy that you're here sharing

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00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:36.639
what other programs, what else are
you up to together? Well, I

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want to say something about our program
and where it needs to be. It

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00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.679
needs to be in school systems,
in school districts, we have not been

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00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.400
able to significantly get our program in
the inn in the middle of the day.

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00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.280
They say, we can do this
before school or after school, but

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00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.400
we can't take away from science and
math because that's what the tax test is.

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00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:00.280
That's what these tests are all about. For recognition and for six says.

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They think that passion and academics go
together automatically because of what you learn

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00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.000
in science and math, which is
not right. We think that you need

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to teach the heart as well.
In fact, when you agree when we

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00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.960
teach the heart, it increases self
esteem, and when you increase self estem

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00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.599
academics get better. Choices are different, And if every school district had a

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00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:22.679
course like this talking about the heart
instead of just science and math all the

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time, we probably would have some
kids who are wholesome and who would not

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00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.800
be in. So many people in
prison and doing so many bad things.

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And I've seen it happen individually.
Now I just have to get this transferred

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to the minds of administrators of school
districts. Okay, this is such a

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00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.920
great point. So in terms of
what you're both up to. Wow,

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this would this is a huge next
step and evolution in what you're doing together

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to move this into the pike of
making this part of the everyday part of

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going to school. And I am
completely with you. I think it's a

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00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.800
crime that we have one taken out
a lot of the art programs today.

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Now we take out, we take
out the heart piece of it's what's left.

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We just want to become all robots
here in the world, I don't

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think so. So what's it going
to take, gentlemen? How do we

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Hopefully we've got some administrators listening to
this who maybe can start to move the

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dial and reach out to you.
But what's it going to take to get

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this mainstream? Well back to me
again just for the thing that let me

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make a decision here about what he
wants to say about it. I think

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the philanthropy in nineteen ninety didn't exist. Nobody knew what it was. Today

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everybody knows about it. I see
it, I read it I hear it

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00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.559
every single day now, philanthropy and
giving back. And now I think there's

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a lot of programs out there that
are happening. So I do think things

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00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.599
are happening. I think it's happening
slowly. I just want to encourage everyone

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to do what they can to make
sure that everybody's involved in a project or

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so, and everybody has a purpose
and everybody can do right for the world.

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I don't think necessarily a lot of
our role models right now are talking

571
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about the heart and talking about being
kind to each other. And I think

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that though those of us who believe
in this can do something every day to

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00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.400
tell somebody else about the need and
the necessity to pay attention and do something

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00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:17.639
good for somebody else. Just today, I wholeheartedly agree with that. And

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00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.039
to add, I think, yeah, the word philanthropy in the concert for

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00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.400
Philampothy, it's a lot more complace
and a lot more familiar to people now

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than I mean, I can't speak
for nineteen ninety, but even it's like

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but yeah, like it's it's very
It's talked about a lot, whether kids

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my age, like in the early
twenties, or like kids my parents age,

580
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or like kids my brother's age,
who's fifteen, sixteen, sixteen.

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Yeah, So but I think like
one thing that we also need to take

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into consideration is that, like,
every community has its own culture and its

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00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.679
own identity, and we need to
make sure that, like, while the

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00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.320
pay program should be applied to I
think every school, I agree with that,

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00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.119
we should make sure that, like
we're looking at it holistically and saying,

586
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.000
hey, in this in this uh, at this school, it should

587
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.880
be taught with this small spin on
it or with this small spin on it

588
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.800
at this school. But for the
most part, it's the same overall curriculum.

589
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.119
It just might be different, you
know, a different service project in

590
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a different part of town, or
like a you know, a different format

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and another one. So I think
just understanding that, like, while we

592
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.920
want it to be extremely like uh, you know, prevalent, we want

593
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.239
to make sure that we're not just
you know, saying one size fits all,

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and understanding that we do need to
take into consideration the individual identity of

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each school in each community. I
got that. I got that. So

596
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.199
what I what I want to say
here really quick to what you're both said

597
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:59.480
about this where you're where you're at
in terms of taking this to another level.

598
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You do that, and you know
you really are going to change the

599
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.760
world. You're already changing the world
today, but you get this into the

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00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:15.000
school system and we're talking whole next
stratosphere. So is there another step?

601
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:19.679
Could you start by going into the
private school system? Well, you know,

602
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.480
private schools obviously our children who are
usually upper middle class. Yes,

603
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.840
and I think our focus needs to
be on the poor kids. So we're

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00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:32.239
working with schools that are predominantly minority. And that's where I really want to

605
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.559
go and what's really what I want
to do, because we have seen the

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00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.760
same success in those kinds of schools
as we have in schools that have upper

607
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:44.480
middle class students. Upper middle class
students come from parents who probably do some

608
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.880
volunteers. Unfortunately, I think,
as they say, ten percent of the

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00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.199
population does ninety percent of the work. I want to make this sixty percent

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of the population is doing ninety percent
of the work. You know. I

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think it's an issue of access,
and we want to promin access to those

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who don't already have assist to it. With private schools, they would like

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we have access to it, whether
we were they or not. We might

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be able to influence some things,
but we can probably make a bigger impact

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waiting with a different kind of schools. Right, and we have so many

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cultures now to talk about. I
mean, because of the immigration of this

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country, which is how we're built, etc. We need to focus on

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people who've never heard of helping anybody
at all. I went to Mexico and

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they didn't get it. They don't
understand it. They say the government is

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responsible for all this. We're not
so responsible. And I had to convince

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them to do it. And then
when they did it, they gave me

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an applause. Thank you so much, Thank you so much for helping us

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and making us do this because we
see now the benefit that we have individually

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for doing something good for our community
instead of waiting for the government to do

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everything. Oh that's called empowerment right
there. That is fantastic, and of

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course I stand for that too.
In our last little bit of time ago,

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we've just got a few minutes left
here, I think it will be

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really wonderful a contribution and a gift
to our listener if you could each just

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say a little something about what is
it. I mean, you've got this

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one precious life, and if you
don't mind me asking. I know you're

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twenty, amit, Bob? How
are old are you these days? I'm

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he's seventy five, still going strong, and I don't even I don't.

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I don't see an endpoint here.
So help us understand, Bob, what

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is it? What do you really
want your life to stand for? Well,

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you know, I'm just doing one
project at a time. Right now,

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I'm doing this book. I'm putting
my whole focus in on this book.

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It's two hundred and fifty pages of
wonderful things that people are doing,

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and hopefully that people will get into
the hands of a lot of folks who

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will say I can do this,
I can do that, I can do

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this, I can do that.
So my minus distribution of this book right

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now, and that's that's my focus. Plus, we're teaching a class and

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I'm just waiting for the next step. So any of your audience who has

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an idea of what I should be
doing next? Have it happened? Did

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you hear that? The listeners?
Yeah? What do you have for mister

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Bob Hopkins to do next? Okay, amit? What about you? Well,

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when we started the show, I
mentioned that I like to think,

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I like to learn. I like
to help people, and I like to

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help people help people. And while
it might be for individual statements, I

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think it's a progression at first,
I like to think, and then that

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moves on to learning, and then
moves on to helping people using what I've

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learned, and then it goes to
the empowerment that you mentioned earlier. Helping

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people help people, And I think
that's what I want to like in my

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life, knowing that I did a
successful job of getting people involved in causes

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that they care about and getting them
to sustain that throughout their life. So

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that way, while I can volunteer
every weekend, and I probably will,

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if I can bring my friends to
it and help other people start volunteering every

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weekend, then you can just maximize
your impact. Completely agree with that,

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And since I think all three of
us care about there seems to be an

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interest in the global connection, the
planetary connection here. I love the idea

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that you're taking this program back home
to India. I just think that it's

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just so so important. And so
is there anything about the the the global

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nature or what you're up to that
calls you so? I mean, like

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I was born here, my parents
immigrated here and like it's just like I.

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So I grew up with understanding both
cultures, both like the Indian culture

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as well as American culture, and
knowing that, like there are differences in

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the way that like people act and
just interact with each other, there's always

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opportunity to, like, you know, learn from other cultures. And if

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we can share this with the Indian
people and we can learn something from them,

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I'm happy to continue that relationship.
I find working with different cultures so

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stimulating and yes, learning from them. We're really almost at a time here,

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mister Bob Hopkins's final words, last
pearls of wisdom for us. God

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grant you the serenity to accept the
things you cannot change, change the things

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that you can, and then you'll
be at peace. Beautiful last minute for

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you. I was lucky to have
met mister Hopkins when I was in ninth

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grade. But if you didn't get
that opportunity, just remember you know how

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to be rachel, to be a
philanthropist, you just have to care.

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Beautiful. What a way to finished, gentlemen. I am so much bigger

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and better having been in your presence
and then part of your lives. I

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thank you so very much for being
on the show, contributing your heart,

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your passion. Thank you so much, thanks for having us. If you

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want to learn more about Bob or
Admitt, and you can probably just start

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by going to Philanthropy Kids dot org. You can find them both that way.

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And again, that's how you can
reach out and give Bob more work

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to do, and reach out and
give stories to Admit and the other organization.

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So stay with us, look for
you next week. We're gonna have

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another conversation that nourishes our mind and
heart. And remember that work is at

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least one third of our life,
So let's work on purpose. We hope

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you've enjoyed this week's program. Be
sure to tune in to Working on Purpose,

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featuring your host at least Cortez,
each week on the Voice America Empowerment

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channel. This week, find your
life's purpose at work