The Greater Encourager: Champion for Living Life Fully

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on Purpose now. Here is your
host, doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome back

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to Working on Purpose SHOWKAK. If
you meet again this week, I am

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doctor Leise Fortes Joili from Dallas,
Texas, which is home base for me.

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Thanks for coming back again. Before
we get in today's program, I

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have three announcements for you I'm excited
to share. September so next month marks

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the launch of Gusto Now, which
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founded and it's dedicated to awakening meaning, passion, inspiration and purpose in people,

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leadership and organizations to create a legacy
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that I speak. You can learn
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I'm really really happy to tell you
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to get this done. Finally,
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ignites passion and Elevates Cause, is
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can pre order it now if you
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to turn readers on at ignite their
passion, inspiration and purpose. So this

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is for you, whether you are
a leader now or a respondent to b

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one. And then, thirdly,
as it were, the anthology that I've

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been curating called Passionately, Striving and
Why, an anthology of women who persevere

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ready to live their purposes, due
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wait to share the stories of the
women that I scouted from across the globe

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with you. It is so amazing
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the works that I do, so
I'm sharing with you today. Now.

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The next fun thing on the docket
is this week's program. Our guest today

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is doctor Herb Senate. He's known
as the Encouragement Doctor. He's also a

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writer, film director, speaker,
executive VP of Florida Writers' Association, retired

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college professor, and running for a
Florida Senate seat. So amazing. We'll

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be talking about why he takes such
a stand on encouragement and inspiration and how

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they thread into everything he does.
He tos today from West Palm Beach to

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Florida. Herb. Welcome to working
on purpose. Welcome Herb. So great

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to have you. Hey, glad
to be here. Thank you for having

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me. I appreciate it. Oh, you're so welcome. I can't wait

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to share you with with the listeners
here, because you really do live large,

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Herb. You know, I want
to share a few things. First,

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listeners, if you don't know,
if you can't see him, we

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are of course broadcasting the show audio
and visually here. But doctor Senator is

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seventy five years old, he's been
married for fifty two years. He has

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door. I told him he's a
heart attack waiting to happen, and he

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did have five bypass surgeries at once. And so I want to start by

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asking to what do you attribute all
this vim and Vinegar Well. Number one.

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I think the biggest thing is that
my family, Mom and dad raised

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me and taught me to always do
what was right and according to our Christian

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faith, and to always take care
of ourselves. It's kind of sad because

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my dad and mom neither one did
that very well. But I took the

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lessons and stayed healthy end worked at
it. I spent twenty eight years in

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the Army reserves, which meant I
had to stay in shape no matter what

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right you sure did, And you
know, I just I take it from

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I got my positive attitude from my
mother. She was the most optimistic human

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being I had ever known. A
Venue one, and I think my lovely

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bride fifty two years is pretty optimistic. But I'm sorry she pales into insignificance

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compared to my mother. She never
can see anything bad that was going on

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in the world. Well, how
wonderful is that? Herb So what I'll

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tell you is one of the things
I say in my book. I have

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a chapter on well being and the
importance of taking care of ourselves, and

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one of the things, of course
is positive emotions, which of course being

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optimistic includes. And I certainly,
I mean, we know there are countless

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research and other dat out there availble
to support the idea of being optimistic.

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And I know that there's a lot
of people that really love being cynical and

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sarcastic, and that has its place, maybe some humor, but point it's

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hard to be optimism. Boy,
you just hit me with something I really

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hadn't thought about before. But in
reality, I'm surrounded by people who have

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passed me. I spent forty some
years in the classroom teaching students public speaking

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as well as theatrical arts. I'm
a theater director. I have probably forty

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two or forty three productions to my
credit. At all along, people were

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constantly my students running into so many
and I would just keep smiling and say,

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you know, I think it helps
me to smile. It's all.

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What was that? I used to
tell my daughter and she didn't catch it

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until she was in her late thirties. She started to catch on. I

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said, there's too much to do, get too many things to see.

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My mother said, I've never been
born a day in my life. There

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are too many things to do to
learn about. Wow, you just can't

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get it all in well. And
that's why I wanted to showcase you,

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doctor Sennet. Encouragement inspiration is so, so, so important, especially now

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we're in this COVID nineteen pandemic.
A lot of people are at their wits

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ends, right, and I know
that I'm ready for it to be overle

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with too, and for me to
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Oh the people, Oh my gosh, I can't wait for that. So

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it's so important to have some messages
of inspiration and encouragement sprinkle throughout our lives.

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Absolutely, And it's all in your
mind, it really is. It's

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somebody said, well I can't change. Well, if you can't change,

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then the problem is is you're out
of control, right, That's all there

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is to it. You're out of
control. Get control of yourself, your

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own brain, it's yours. Nobody
else is getting control of it. And

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if you let other people control you, then you are out of control.

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Oh that's such a great point.
Take control of your own self in your

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life. It's too important. It
is too important. In fact, that's

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one of the first things I wanted
to talk about with you, Herb,

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is you and I have something in
common here and that you had someone in

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your high school and he was your
counselor's teacher, teacher, or your academic

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career. Anyway, he or she
told you that you should not go on

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to college because you're just not going
to You're not gonna do well. And

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you've got, i think, a
couple of doctorates and several other degrees.

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So talk to us about that experience
of how that message was delivered to you.

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Maybe what was you think was behind
it and your reaction to it.

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Well, I was not a good
student in high school, Okay. I

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did not let my education get in
the way of my fun, now,

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no two ways about it. I
was going to have fun. And so

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I was not a really good student. And even in college. I'm not

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going now. I like to tell
people when I graduated from college, my

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wife and I graduated the same time, and we were literally the bookends for

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the class. She was at the
very top and I was at the very

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bottom. Okay, perfectness, As
I say, you have to have a

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two point oh great point average to
graduate from most colleges and universities. I

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had a two point oh one nine. Wow, yes that is correct.

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That is less than ten percent on
near the bottom. I was pretty close.

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I think there were three other students
that had great GPAs lower than mine,

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but that was about it out of
a class of over three thousand.

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So you know, it's not something
to be proud of. But I had

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fun. I enjoyed my college career. I met the love of my life

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in college. We got married just
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period break and all of that,
and we uh and here again, we

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were coming up in December. It's
going to be fifty three years. So

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I must have done something right,
I think. So. I think you've

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had quite a distinguished life and career
already and you're still going strong. But

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you obviously didn't listen to that device. So when that counselor told you you

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shouldn't you should just me to go
to trade school, you don't go to

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college, you obviously didn't listen.
And so what was it? How did

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it land for you? It was
interesting because I was I was really crushed.

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That just hurt me so bad because
she and she didn't even mentioned trade

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school. I grew up in a
community just outside of Norfolk, Virginia,

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who was called South Norfolk, very
small community. Now it's part of what

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is Chesapeake, Virginia, a very
large city. But anyway, at that

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time, you know that's a big
navy town. So she said, herb,

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Actually she called me Herbert. She
said, not Herbert. You need

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to join the navy squids, learn
a skill so that you can support yourself

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when you get out of the military, or just make the military a career

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that'll be good for you. Okay. When I told my mother, and

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I only know this by her having
told me later the next day she had

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a rather interesting conversation with my guidance
counselor, I suppose, so he had

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said should, and she told me. She looked at me in she said,

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herb, if you can do anything
you set your mind to. Guess

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what. She had four children,
all of us graduated from college, two

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of us went on to earn doctoral
degrees, and two of us were professors

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in college for many years. I
was over a forty forty some odd years,

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I think it was. And my
youngest brother, the baby of the

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family, he just retired from his
tenured seat up in Georgia. So you

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know, I mean, when you
stop and think about it, she was

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the inspiration for all of us.
So let me do a couple things for

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listeners. Hear her. So a
couple things. First, listeners and viewers,

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what I wanted to pay attention to
is that we all get these negative

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messages in our lives, and it's
up to us to decide how we hear

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those messages and whether or not we're
going to respond to them as they were

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given to us or do something entirely
different. Secondly, never forget the role

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the power that you have as a
parent, as a leader to be able

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to truly encourage the path of those
that you were stewarding. I too had

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a teacher who told me I was
the stupidest kid she'd ever had in kindergarten,

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and I chose to take that as
Okay, well, I am really

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stupid, so I'm going to have
to really work at this stuff harder than

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all the other kids. And so
I created this over the top study system,

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right because I'm so stupid. I
got to work at this and guess

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what I got straight A. So
maybe I should thank my teacher. But

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I also had a boss fire me
when I was nineteen years old because he

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said, you can do so much
more than this. There's so much more

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in life for you. So like
your mother saw on you, she said

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you could do anything. So I
want our listeners and viewers to really think

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about the impact they can have in
the lives of people that they lead in

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their community, their children, when
they look for what they can do and

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what's possible, and help them get
there for selling them what they can't do

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and what's not possible. Absolutely,
absolutely, it's but even when you're surrounded

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and that this is a sad part
is at some point you have to grow

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up. Absolutely, And just too
many people who get to that point and

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decide they'd rather stay wallowing in their
negativity right right, And that's sad because

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they're wasting valuable time. Precious life
is what they're wasting. I know absolutely.

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On that note, let's grab our
first break, Herb. I'm doctor

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leez Cortez, your host. We've
been in the air with Herb Senate.

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He is a writer, film director, speaker, executive vice president of Florida

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Writers Association, retired college professor,
and is running for a Florida Senator seat.

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He joins it today from West Palm
Beach, Florida. We've been talking

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a bit about his early life and
really how he was stewarded on through inspiration

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through his mother After the break,
we're going to get into just how it

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was that he earned the Encouragement Doctor
title. Stay with us, we'll be

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right back. Doctor Elise Cortes is
a management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose

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and inspirational speaker and author. She
helps companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders

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and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning
infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,

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and commitment within the workforce. To
learn more or to invite Elise to speak

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to your organization, please visit her
at elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about

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how to get your employees working on
purpose. This is working on Purpose with

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Doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our
program today or open a conversation with Elise,

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send an email to Alise Alise at
elisecortes dot com. Now back to

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working on purpose. Thanks Christine with
us and welcome back to working on purpose.

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If you're just joining us. My
guest is her Senate. He's also

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known as the Encouragement Doctor. He's
a writer, film director, speaker,

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executive vice president of Flora Writers' Association, and a retired college professor. What

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I want to get to is how
it was that you were a dub with

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the encouragement Doctor. What a fun
title. It's even on your LinkedIn profile.

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I love that. I had so
many students just call it, just

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tell me how encouraging I was.
And toward the end of my career,

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which was about four years ago,
I retired in twenty sixteen. Just before

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my retirement, one of my students
just came up to me and said,

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doctor Senate, I just think you're
like an encouragement doctor. And I thought,

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I like that. I wish I
could take it as my my idea.

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But hey, that's okay. I'm
I'm willing to give credit where credit

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is due. The problem is,
I forget the name of the young lady

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that said to was obviously combined a
combined title for you. And it is

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good, right, It's even better
when someone else gives us these titles.

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Right. So yeah, I like
I like, you know, being being

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called energy. Like whenever people talk
about me, the number one describing word

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they use is energy. I'll take
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I have a lot of energy too. But I do want to make

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one correction on something that you said. I'm running for the Florida Senate I'm

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running for the Florida House of Representatives. Thanks. That is quite all right,

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I can understand that. Listen,
in the new cycle that we have

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going on nowadays, state legislatures seem
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Yet the state legislatures, and especially
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that, those are the ones that
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on the local people. They're the
ones that really pass all of this stuff

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and make things happen or make things
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federal government has very little when you
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little to do with our everyday lives
until March. That looks right. I

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think it's fantastic, Herb, that
you're running for the House. And I'm

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not surprised, giving everything else,
given everything else you've done in your life,

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all the years of teaching, being
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it's just not surprising to me that
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public service role to yourself. Tell
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this a little bit later, but
I we'll grab it now. But how

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did you decide to run? Oh? That is very simple. I was

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minding my own business, happily retired, enjoying doing volunteer work for several organizations

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here in West Palm Beach and loving
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caught sort of cornered at a restaurant
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in Palm Beach County, the Republican
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just says herb if you ever thought
about running for office? I said no.

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He said, well, give us
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what was going on. He says, why don't you Why don't you run

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because you live in you live in
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by the other party completely help give
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And I said, nah, I'm
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it seems my darling wife, my
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to be doing volunteer work up at
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doing a lot of stuff. He
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then she comes home that evening and
talks to me. Well, I do

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have to admit this. I've had
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fifty two years, no to her
good and so therefore I am in this

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mess of politics, which, by
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over time to keep my happiness going, to keep my positive attitude going.

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Anybody goes into politics, you have
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you to keep or inside of you
that keeps you going, that keeps you

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encouraging, it keeps you active and
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politics just seems to drag you down. So two things if we can here

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on this herb So one is the
importance of the fact that you tried to

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retire in twenty sixteen, but you
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applaud that, absolutely, aplaud that. And I even have a section in

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my book under the work chapter saying
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retirement is actually not good for our
health. Both of my parents died twenty

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eight days apart last year twenty nineteen, and I am convinced that they wouldn't

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have If they would have done something
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have been of service to others rather
than just sitting and watching TV. So

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you know, watch the idea of
retirement. It's not actually, it's all

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it's cracked up to be. And
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is that I really appreciate an applaud
that you're going into this political arena,

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not really because you want to,
but because you've been asked. And what

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I can really see for you is
that I see a whole landscape of growth,

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of waiting for you. Who knows
what this is going to activate in

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you, what's going to get called
forth or you know where this takes you

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from here. I'm scared fair enough. Let me put it this way.

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The adrenaline is pumping. Now.
You can either look at that as fear

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or you can look at that as
excitement, because the emotions are actually the

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same when you think about it,
because it's just pumping. Was it a

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flight or fight syndrome? That's what
it is, is that pumping of extra

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adrenaline through your system. And I
feel that almost every day when I get

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up and see, Okay, there's
a lot to be done today and a

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lot to be accomplished. And I
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what my mother meant. I've had
a few days where I was. Somebody

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asked me the other day, so, what do you do to relax?

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And I said, I'll tell you
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year, I was so disappointed at
the ending of the television program Criminal Minds.

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That was one of my favorite programs
watch Hey, I just loved that

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it was so well written. Mean, Dick Wolf is a genius when it

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comes to drama because he was able
to get the kind of writers that really

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wrote good stuff. You know,
not every one of them was a five

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star episode, but most of them
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nowadays, I am what do you
call it. There's a word that you

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use. I'm maxing out. I'm
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episodes, one at a time in
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Okay watching, Thank you very much. I'm having fun with it.

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It's enjoyable. And somebody says,
where do you find the time? You

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find time for the things you really
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I will tell you you value.
I can tell you what you value

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by how you spend your time.
I can tell you by what's in your

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calendar. Tells me who you are
and what you absolutely right? Okay,

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all right, well I want to
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looked, I looked at your blog. It's amazing to me that you still

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got that blog out there. And
what is it. What's it called living

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fully? What's it called living life
fully? There? It is all my

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shirt, so I love it living
life fully dot com. So one of

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the things that you say right there, biggest gold and it certainly aligns with

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my space herb is you say,
I believe the strength to live your life

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the way you wish comes from a
deep faith that you were put here for

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a reason. I completely agree.
Tell me more about your perspective on that.

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Well. I I am first and
foremost a Christian. My dad was

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a minister, my great my grandfather
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into a tradear. However, after
attending seminary, I started I worked in

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a church in Ohio and that just
wasn't right. But something wasn't feeling right

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for me. I just didn't fit. I spent six years as a pastor.

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But during that period of time I
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was I had spent six years in
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and I spent a year in combat, most of that time was in

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combat, and got home and just
said no more of that and turned my

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back on it. But when I
finished seminary and I started my ministry work

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as a pastor, I began to
realize this is not what God has for

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me. And I just knew it. There was no flash of lightning,

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there was no voice out in the
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must do. It was a realization
and I said, this is not it,

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and would you believe it wasn't.
Two days later a friend of mine

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called from the Pentagon. He said, herb, I saw where you graduated

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from a seminary and we had known
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He said so did I. Why
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a chaplain? Come back in,
Come on back in, And I said,

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bingo. That was its like there
was the voice from heaven. And

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I try to tell people God speaks
to us in so many different ways.

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The problem is is we get certain
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way we think God speaks to us, when if we just listen, we

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can hear his voice through other people. Especially not always, but if you're

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in tune and you're listening for it, you can tell when it's the right

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thing. And I'm going to tell
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spent twenty one years as a chaplain
in the Army Reserves, paralleling. I

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tell people that I said it was
such a joy. Once a month,

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for two days, I got a
chance to put on a uniform and do

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something totally and completely different from standing
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desk, or working on some college
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it just it gave me a complete
It helped me to stay in touch

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with reality where life is really all
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started in September August of nineteen ninety, I got the phone call that said,

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you have to report on Saturday,
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The unit has been called up to
active duty. Oh boy, talk

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about trying to find somebody to take
my place in the classroom one week before

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school started. And that was thank
goodness. He already had prepared someone to

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step right into my position. And
this lady who took over, she had

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no intentions of continuing full time.
She agreed to do it for one year.

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When I got back, she happily
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small children. And I tell you
I cannot. I'm sorry, get a

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little little feel. It's you know, the people that I have known in

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my life, I could not be
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just for who they are, not
what we expect them to be, that's

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not the way to look at other
people. Look it up to the people,

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accept them the way they are,
warts and all absolutely full interesting words

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and all, yes, absolutely,
And it's our it's our our flaws that

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remind us that we're human and we
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completely. And wow, you know
I didn't mean to get all sappy.

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I like it doesn't happen. I
don't think we've had a good conversation,

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but a hold that thought. Let's
grab our last break. I'm doctor Release

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Cortes. I'm your host of the
Working on Purpose program. We've been on

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the air with Herbsennett. He is
a writer, film director, speaker,

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executive vice president of Florida Writers Association, retired college professor and is now running

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for the Florida House. He joined
it today from West Palm Beach, Florida.

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After the break, we're going to
hear a few things he learned about

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being a chaplain. Stay with us, will be right back. Doctor Elise

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Cortes is a management consultant specializing in
meaning and purpose and inspirational speaker and author.

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She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose
among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership

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and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment within the workforce.

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Thanksteresting with us, and welcome back
to working on purpose. If you're just

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tuning in, my guest is Herb
Senate. He's known as the encouragement Doctor.

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I'm your host, Doctor Elise Cortes, so herb from here. For

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the rest of the conversation, I
really wanted to talk about a few things

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that you really stand for and what
you've learned by being a chaplain and some

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of the things that you talk about
when you're out speaking inspirationally. So a

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couple things. We don't have a
whole lot of time left on the show,

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so a couple things that you took
away, things that were important for

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you serving as a chaplain. What
did you learn. I think the most

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important thing is people. Other people
really you appreciated when when you sincerely approach

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them and offer a helping hand and
it doesn't help, It doesn't happen as

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often as perhaps we some of us
remember from being around a while now,

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I remember the days when growing up
it was I never could appreciate that.

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But at the same time, as
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important it is to have good relationships
with people around you. That there is

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nothing else more important than other people. You can have all the wealth in

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the world and be absolutely miserable.
More you can have all the wealth and

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the world and be absolutely happy.
The wealth doesn't have anything to do with

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it right, It has to do
with your relationships with other people. Two

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things on that. First, I
just this afternoon had a great conversation with

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a guest that's coming down my show
later this year. His name is Norman

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Wolf, and he has a book
out called The Living Organization, and he

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was saying in our conversation that relationships
are living organisms. They're their own personality,

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all of them. So everything is
a relationship. And so he too

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says that the really our health is
a reflection of the quality of our relationships,

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and I think that's so true.
Secondly, related to that, I

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really want to go back and thank
you for being real and authentic and letting

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us into your heart by letting us
see what it looks like when you get

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moved. One of the things that
I talk about when i'm speaking her,

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but it's in my book as well. If you're going to be the inspirational

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leader, you have to get used
to being able to let people see you

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be moved, because that's how we
get access to you. All want to

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know that we can be in that
space with you. So when you I

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forget how you said it got teary
or got emotional, that is beautiful.

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So I just want to paunt you
for letting us in and showing us in

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modeling what it is to be somebody
who is inspirational through and through and always

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remember you are the only person you
can be. Everyone else has taken I

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love it, so yes, be
happy to start with finding your happiness in

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your own skin. Absolutely, absolutely. So that's another thing, just so

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I just want just for our listeners, because I really did. I shared

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this show as really a source of
inspiration and encouragement. So what else can

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you share with us that you've learned
from being a chaplain or of what you've

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learned along in life, the lessons
and the messages that you like to share

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when you're speaking and relating to people. I am the happiest that I can

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be when I am alongside someone else
who is striving for their dream and that

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I cannot I cannot even begin to
imagine that. I tell you, I

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have stories that would go on for
years about the students that I have helped

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along the way. I'm sure there
are a few students who hate me,

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but just I'm just any teacher worth
their while, as a few that weren't

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happy, but the ones that latched
on and saw something in me and saw

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something or heard something I said,
or it saw something I did that encouraged

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them to move forward and move on
in their life. I'm stunned at times

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the number of former students that I
have that are friended me on Facebook and

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LinkedIn and follow me on Twitter and
things like that. I think that's I

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think that's an encouragement to me that
somewhere along the way I'm to pick up

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from an old musical, somewhere in
my youth or childhood, I must have

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done something. Do it. It's
beautiful, and you know, for our

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listeners, let me let me share
my perspective on how that lands for me

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as a logo therapist, I'm focused
on the space of meaning as really our

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ultimate concern is how we make meaning
of our lives, and that's in the

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moment and across our lives. And
according to that inquiry, there's three ways,

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the three sources of meaning. There's
what we give of ourselves to the

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world, our creations. And so
what you're giving is this is one of

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your sources of meaning. Why do
this still feels so good for you is

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because you're giving something really really precious
of yourself, this encouragement right now.

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The second source of meaning that we
all have access to is experiential and those

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are the encounters and experiences that we
have in life that breathe life into us

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and register as meaningful. So your
encouragement then is the student's inspiration. They

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receive it as inspiration. Right.
And then the third source of meaning is

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the attitude attitudeinal, which is the
stance that we take in response to whatever

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life service to us. And so
that gets to mindset and such. We

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have, as you said earlier,
complete control over the mindset and the attitude

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that we assign when we're confronting things, and that is actually a source of

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meaning for us. So your creation, your passion of encouragement then lands as

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inspiration is received as inspiration by your
students. And what a beautiful exchange is

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that. That's why it's meaningful to
both of you. Thank you so much.

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I appreciate it. And if I
might add my website lovinglife fully dot

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com. I also have heard sendate
dot com novels by herb dot com done

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just a few things, yes,
and author herbsenate dot com. I run

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about six websites and keeps me out
of trouble, I guess you might say.

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And keeps me busy, keeps my
mind sharp, which is so important.

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Well, and you're also of service
herb. So that goes back to

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what I said about my parents.
Absolutely, there's another another idea in on

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logo therapy, which just called self
transcendence, and I'm sure you're extremely familiar

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with that given your work as a
minister and of the chaplain. Right,

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when we're in service of other people, it's amazing how we lose sight of

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whatever troubles that we've got, right, it's amazing, no kidding, It

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is stunning and I and I love
every minute of it. It makes life

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meaningful. Well, and that's what
I mean is that? And so what

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what what people don't necessarily understand,
and it's kind of a bit elusive.

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Well, what's really mean is essentially
an energy source. That's why we glom

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onto it. That's why it's so
important. So when we talk about something

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being meaningful, what it means is
it has an emotional registry for us,

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an olympic brain, and it's that's
alongside memories and memories essentially, but that's

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why it stands in that space for
us, and so we hang on to

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it as a as a memory and
as an emotion and therefore it's meaningful.

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Absolutely, I appreciate that I gotta
spend more time in your website. I

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like hanging out with me, you
know, I like my I laugh about

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jokes, I respond to my questions, you know. Absolutely, that's that's

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what That's what life really is.
There's so many things I could talk about,

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but you know, just taking charge
of your own life. That's the

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name of one of my talks,
take charge. Absolutely. It doesn't work

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any other way. And if if
you don't take charge of your life,

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if you let other people run your
life, you will most assuredly die a

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broken, miserable human being. Yeah. I'm really the best boss in life

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I've ever had, really, and
not just in my business, my life.

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I'm the best boss I've ever had. Absolutely, I really am.

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And so I love that idea of
taking charge. What other nuggets can you

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can you surface for our listeners and
viewers that are on your mind that you

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think that I don't find out what
you love? Absolutely? What kind of

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things do you really thoroughly enjoy doing? My problem was is that I had

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too many, so I had to
narrow them down some. However, it

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didn't take me very long to figure
out the things I didn't like doing,

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and I moved away from those very
quickly got out of it. And if

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you find yourself in a miserable situation, I don't think in terms of how

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do I get out of this?
No, say, okay, now what

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about all of this? Can can
I find to find some enjoyment? What

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fun is there? That's why I
tolerated college. I had fun though at

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the same time I tolerated the classes. Then I got to graduate school,

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but then I had focus. I
knew where I was headed when I went

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to graduate school, which by the
way, was an absolute miracle with my

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GPA. With my GPA, nobody
would consider except for one thing. I

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went to the speech in drama department
at Memphis, at the University of Memphis

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and just talked to them and said, you know, I'd like to do

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some graduate work. And they said, well, you know your GPA is

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going to well just give me a
chance. Let me let me try it.

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And they said, Okay, the
summer semester is starting in a week.

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Won't you sign up. We'll accept
you provisionally. Uh, And if

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you make all a's and b's in
the four classes that you have to take

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uh, then we we'll consider,
we'll get we'll come back and revisit this.

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The first two classes I took,
I made a's. Would you believe

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that they called me into the office
and said, okay, Herb, we're

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going to go ahead and retroactively put
you as a graduate student and bounding those

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classes toward your master's degree, and
let's just go ahead from here. I

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said, yeah, Well that means
that my tuition is going to go up

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to the said, well, yeah, there is that, but we want

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you to stay. And so they
gave me a shot at it. Well

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you asked for It goes back to
taking charge. Her I knew what I

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wanted. I knew what I wanted
and it has served me so well.

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And then I didn't have any difficulty
whatsoever getting into two doctoral programs. Would

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you believe I was a doctoral student
at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary at the same

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time I was a Master of Fine
Arts student at Florida Atlantic University. Yes,

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I believe that. And I was
teaching full time, and I made

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mostly in all a's and b's in
the graduate courses. Both sides wrote a

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dissertation for one then then received a
second master's degree after I completed that doctoral

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program. It was in an entirely
different field. And and I'm going to

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tell you what, I've kept myself
challenged too. I set my goals a

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little bit higher. Now I don't
set my goals too high. And there's

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where a lot of people miss it. Yes, they said advice. They

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they set grandiose and then grandiose goals
and then they they get so frustrated because

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they can't reach it. Well,
dull, it's just start at a time.

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Yeah, it's too far out of
reach, and therefore it's just they're

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going to give up at the first
time that they hit a roadbuck. Wow.

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Yes, so here we are already. We meanted to do it.

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We've run out of time. So
and say, just about thirty minutes,

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her, what was you want to
leave our listeners with? We have listeners

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that from across the globe they come
to hear about how to be able to

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work with more meaning, passionate,
inspiration and lead. Accordingly, what was

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what to leave them with? Do
what you love of love what you do

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works for me, absolutely works,
HERB, thank you so much for being

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on the show and sharing your heart, your soul. You are a perfect

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example of somebody who really is living
large. This is how we do it.

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We have one precious life. Don't
squander it. Go for it,

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go for the gusto. It's worth
the run, So tell us one more

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time. Two of the websites that
can find you at loving lifefully dot com

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and herbsendate dot com. And I
think my name is right there is or

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excuse me right there? Well it's
some people that are listening, So it's

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at RBS. The N N E
T T is how he spells his name.

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Awesome. Last week you missed the
live show, you can always catch

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it via recorded podcast. We were
on the year with Lauren Hollows talking about

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purpose based management and education and how
critical this approach is, especially in COVID

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00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:59.599
nineteen times. Next week we'll be
live on the show with James Sinclair of

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00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:04.559
Enterprise Alumni and talking about the work
that they do to help companies stay connected

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00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.880
to their contingent laborpool and drive referrals
or boomerang hires. See you there.

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Remember that work is at least through
a life, so let's work on purpose.

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We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to tune in too.

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Working on Purpose featuring your host,
doctor Elise Cortes, each week on

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the Voice America Empowerment Channel. Together, we'll create a world where business operates

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conscientiously, leadership inspires impassioned performance,
and employees are fulfilled in work that provides

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the meaning and purpose they crave.
See you there, Let's work on Purpose.