The Greater Encourager: Champion for Living Life Fully

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
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a force for good in the world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want working

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on purpose. Now. Here is
your host, Doctor Elise Cortez. Welcome

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back to Looking on Perfect showpack at
me again this week. I am doctor

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Elise Cortez when Uli from Dallas,
Texas, which is home base for me.

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Thanks for coming back again. Before
we get in today's program, I

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have three announcements for you I'm excited
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people, leadership and organizations to create
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Secondly, I'm really really happy to
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Finally, my book Purpose Ignited, How

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You can pre order it now if
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So this is for you, whether
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to b one. And Then,
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that I've been curating called Passionately Striving
and Why, an anthology of women who

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persevering rightly to live their purpose,
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I cannot wait to share the stories
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the globe with you. It is
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and do the works that I do, so I'm sharing with you today.

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Now. The next fun thing on
the docket is this week's program. Our

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guest Today is doctor Herb Senate.
He's known as the Encouragement Doctor. He's

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also a writer, film director,
speaker, executive VP of Florida Writers Association,

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retired college professor, and running for
a Florida's Senate seat. So amazing.

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We'll be talking about why he takes
such a stand on encouragement and inspiration

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and how they thread into everything he
does. He does today from West Palm

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Beach, Florida. Herb. Welcome
to working on Purpose. Welcome Herbs.

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So great to have you, Ay
glad to be here. Thank you for

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having me. I appreciate it.
Oh, you're so welcome. I can't

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wait to share you with the listeners
here because you really do live large,

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Harb. You know, I want
to share a few things. First,

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listeners, if you don't know,
if you can't see him, we are

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of course broadcasting the show audio and
visually here. But doctor Senate is seventy

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five years old, he's been married
for fifty two years. He has told

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him he's a heart attack winning to
happen, and he did have five bypass

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surgeries at once. And so I
want to start by asking to what do

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you attribute all this vim and vinegar? Well Number one I think the biggest

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thing is that my family, Mom
and dad raised me and taught me to

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always do what was right and according
to our Christian faith, and to always

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take care of ourselves. It's kind
of sad because my dad and mom neither

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one did that very well. But
I took the lessons and stayed healthy and

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worked at it. I spent twenty
eight years in the Army reserves, which

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meant I had to stay in shape
no matter what right you sure did,

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and you know, I just I
take it from I got my positive added

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from my mother. She was the
most optimistic human being I had ever known

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of any one. And I think
my lovely bride fifty two years is pretty

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optimistic. But I'm sorry she does. She pales into insignificance compared to my

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mother. She never can see anything
bad and that was going on in the

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world. Well, how wonderful is
that? Herb So what I'll tell you

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is one of the things I say
in my book. I have a chapter

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on well being and the importance of
taking care of ourselves, and one of

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the things, of course, is
positive emotions, which of course being optimistic

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includes. And I certainly, I
mean, we know there are countless research

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and other data out there be able
to support the idea of being optimistic.

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And I know that there's a lot
of people that really love being cynical and

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sarcastic, and that has its place, maybe some humor, but boy,

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it's hard to beat optimism. Boy, you just hit me with something I

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really hadn't thought about it before.
In reality, I am, I'm surrounded

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by people who have tested me.
I spent forty some years in the classroom

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teaching students public speaking, as well
as theatrical arts. I'm a theater director.

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I have probably forty two or forty
three productions to my credit. At

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all along, people were constantly my
students running into so many and I would

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just keep smiling and say, you
know, I think it helps me.

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It's mile it's all what I said. I used to tell my daughter,

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and she didn't catch it until she
was in her late thirties. She sort

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of started to catch on. I
said, there's too much to do,

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get too many things to see.
My mother said, I've never been born

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a day in my life. There
are too many things to do, to

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see, to learn about. Wow, you just can't get it all in

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well. And that's why I wanted
to showcase you doctor said it. Encouragement

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inspiration is so, so, so
important, especially now we're in this COVID

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nineteen pandemic. A lot of people
are at their wits ends, right,

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and I know that I'm ready for
it to be able with too, and

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for me to be able to go
out and socialize and hug the people.

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Oh my gosh, I can't wait
for that. So it's so important to

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have some messages of inspiration and encouragement
sprinkle throughout our lives. Absolutely, And

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it's all in your mind, it
really is. It's somebody said, well,

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I can't change. Well, if
you can't change, then the problem

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is is you're out of control,
right, That's all there is to it.

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You're out of control. Get control
of yourself, your own brain,

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it's yours. Nobody else is getting
control of it. And if you let

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other people control you, then you
are out of control. Oh that's a

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different point. To take control of
your own self in your life. It's

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too important. It is too important. In fact, that's one of the

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first things I wanted to talk about
with you her, because you and I

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have something in common here and that
you had someone in your high school and

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he was your counsel's teacher, teacher, or your academic career. Anyway,

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he or she told you that you
should not go on to college because you're

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just you're not gonna do well.
And you've got I think, a couple

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of doctorates and several other degrees.
So talk to us about that experience of

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how that message was delivered to you, maybe what was you think was behind

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it and your reaction to it.
Well, I was not a good student

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in high school. Okay. I
did not let my education get in the

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way of my fun, now,
no two ways about it. I was

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going to have fun, and so
I was not a really good student.

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And even in college I'm not now. I like to tell people when I

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graduated from college, my wife and
I graduated at the same time, and

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we were literally the bookends for the
class. Was at the very top and

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I was at the very bottom.
So perfectness, as I say, you

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have to have a two point oh
great point average to graduate from most colleges

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and universities. I had a two
point oh one nine. Wow, yes

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that is correct. That is less
than ten percent on here the bottom.

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I was pretty close. I think
there were three other students that had great

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GPA's lower than mine, but that
was about it out of a class of

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over three thousand, so it's not
something to be proud of. But I

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had fun. I enjoyed my college
career. I met the love of my

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life in college. We got married
just before the second semester, during the

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Christmas pard break and all of that, and we uh and here again we

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were coming up on in December.
It's going to be fifty three years.

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So I must have done something right, I think. So. I think

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you've had quite a distinguished life and
career already, and you're still going strong.

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But you obviously didn't listen to that
device. So when that counselor told

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you you shouldn't you should just me
to go to trade school or don't go

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to college, you obviously didn't listen. And so what was it? How

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did it land for you? It
was interesting because I was I was really

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crushed. That just hurt me so
bad because she and she and even mentioned

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trade school. She said. I
grew up in a community just outside of

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Norfolk, Virginia, who was called
South Norfolk, a very small community.

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Now it's part of what is Chesapeake, Virginia, a very large city,

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but anyway, at that time,
you know, that's a big navy town.

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So she said herb Actually she called
me Herbert. She said, not

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Herbert. You need to join the
navy woods, learn a skill so that

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you can support yourself when you get
out of the military, or just make

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the military a career. They'll be
good for you. Okay. When I

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told my mother, and I only
know this by her having told me later

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the next day she had a rather
interesting conversation with my guidance council, I

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suppose so he had said it should
and she told me. She looked at

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me in she said her if if
you can do anything you set your mind

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to, guess what. She had
four children, all of us graduated from

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college, two of us went on
to earn doctoral degrees, and two of

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us were professors in college for many
years. I was over at forty forty

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some moive years, I think it
was, and my youngest brother, the

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baby of the family, he had
just retired from his tenured seat up in

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Georgia. So you know, I
mean, when you stop and think about

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it, she was the inspiration for
all of us. So let me do

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a couple of things for hear her. So a couple of things. First,

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listeners and viewers, what I wanted
to pay attention to is that we

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all get these negative messages in our
lives, and it's up to us to

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decide how we hear those messages and
whether or not we're going to respond to

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them as they were given to us
or do something entirely different. Secondly,

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never forget the role the power that
you have as a parent, as a

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leader to be able to truly encourage
the path of those that you were stewarding.

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I too had a teacher who told
me I was the stupidest kid she'd

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ever had in kindergarten, and I
chose to take that as Okay, well,

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I am really stupid, so I'm
going to have to really work at

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this stuff harder than all the other
kids. And so I created this over

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the top study system, right because
I'm so stupid. I got to work

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at this and guess what I got
straight as So maybe I should thank my

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teacher. But I also had a
boss fire me when I was nineteen years

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old because he said, you can
do so much more than this. There's

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so much more in life for you. So like your mother saw on you,

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she said you could do anything.
So I want our listeners and viewers

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to really think about the impact they
can have in the lives of people that

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they lead in their community, their
children, when they look for what they

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can do and what's possible and help
them get there, versus telling them what

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they can't do and what's not possible. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, it's

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but even when you're surrounded and then
this is a sad part is at some

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point you have to grow up.
Absolutely, and just too many people who

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get to that point and decide they
rather stay wallowing in their negativity, right

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right, And that's sad because they're
wasting valuable time. Precious life is what

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they're wasting. I know absolutely.
On that note, let's grab our first

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break curb. I'm doctor Lee's Cortez, your host. We've been on the

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air with herb Senate. He is
a writer, film director, speaker,

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executive vice president Florida Writers Association,
retired college professor, and is running for

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a Florida senator seat. He joins
today from West Palm Beach, Florida.

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We've been talking a bit about his
early life and really how he was started

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on through inspiration through his mother.
After the break, we're going to get

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into just how it was that he
earned the Encouragement Doctor title, and stay

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with us. We'll be right back. Doctor release Cortez as a management consultant

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specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational
speaker and author. She helps companies visioneer

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for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that

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elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment
within the workforce. To learn more or

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to invite a lease to speak to
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Elise Cortez dot Now back to working
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and welcome back to working on purpose. If you're just joining us.

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My guest is heard by Senate.
He's also known as the Encouragement Doctor.

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He's a writer, film director,
speaker, executive vice president of Florida Writers

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Association, and retired college professor.
What I want to get to is how

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it was that you were dubbed the
Encouragement Doctor. What a fun title.

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It's even on your LinkedIn profile.
I love that. I had so many

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students and just call it. Just
tell me how encouraging that was. And

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toward the end of my career,
which was about four years ago, I

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retired in twenty sixteen. Just before
on my retirement, one of my students

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just came up to me and said, doctor Senate, I just think you're

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You're like a You're like an encouragement
doctor. And I thought, I like

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that. I wish I could take
it as my my idea. But hey,

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that's okay. I'm willing to give
credit where credit is due. The

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problem this is, I forget the
name of the young lady said was obviously

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combined a combined title for you.
And it is good, right, It's

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it's even better when someone else gives
us these titles. Right. So yeah,

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I like I like, you know, being being called energy. Like

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it. Whenever people talk about me, then number one describing word they use

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is energy. I'll take it,
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have a lot of energy too.
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on something that you said. I'm
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for the Florida House of Representatives.
Excuse me. House thinks that is quite

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all right. I can understand that. Listen, in the news cycle that

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we have going on nowadays, state
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insignificance. Yet the state legislatures,
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people like that, those are the
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people, on the local people.
They're the ones that really ask all of

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this stuff and make things happen or
make things not happen. And we forget

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that this federal government has very little
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has very very little to do with
our everyday lives until March. That

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looks right well. I think it's
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for the House. And I'm not
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else you've done in your life,
all the years of teaching, being a

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minister, a chaplain, it's just
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add this kind of a public service
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I was going to ask this a
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now. But how did you decide
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simple. I was minding my own
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work for several organizations here in West
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When I was caught sort of cornered
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the Republican Council here in Palm Beach
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County, and he just it's always, says herb if you ever thought about

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running for office? I said no. He said, well, give it,

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give us some thoughts, because we
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on. He says, why don't
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in you live in the district that
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party. Completely helped give the people
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I said, nah, I'm not
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my darling wife, my suite that
love my life. She happened to be

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doing volunteer work up at the Republican
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lot of stuff. He corners her, talks to her, and then she

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comes home that evening and talks to
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admit this. I've had a great
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years, no to her good and
so therefore I am in this mess of

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politics, which, by the way, I'm having to work over time to

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keep my happiness going, to keep
to keep my positive attitude going. Anybody

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goes into politics, you you have
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you to keep or inside of you
that keeps you going, that keeps you

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encouraging, it keeps you active and
upbeat, because everything having to do with

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politics just seems to drag you down. Well, I so two things if

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we can here on this herb.
So one is the importance of the fact

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that you tried to retire in twenty
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these volunteer activities. I applaud that, Absolutely applaud that. And I even

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have a section in my book under
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of retirement, because retirement is actually
not good for our health. Both of

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my parents died twenty eight days apart
last last year, twenty nineteen, and

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I am convinced that they wouldn't have
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in the community. They would have
been of service to others rather than just

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sitting and watching TV. So let
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It's not actually it's all it's cracked
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second thing I want to say or
is that I really appreciate an applaud that

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you're going into this political arena,
not really because you want to, but

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because you've been asked. And what
I can really see for you is that

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I see a whole landscape of growth
waiting for you. Who knows what this

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is going to activate in you,
what's going to get called forth or you

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know where this takes you from here? I'm scared. Let me put it

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this way. The adrenaline is pumping. Now you can either look at that

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as fear or you can look at
that as excitement, because the emotions are

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actually the same when you think about
it, because it's just pumping. Was

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it a flight or fight syndrome?
That's what it is, is that pumping

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of extra adrenaline through your system.
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I get up and see, Okay, there's a lot to be done today

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and a lot to be accomplished.
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I understand what my mother meant.
I've had a few days where I was

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Somebody asked me the other day,
so what do you do to relax?

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And I said, I'll tell you
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year, I was so disappointed at
the ending of the television program Criminal Minds.

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That was one of my favorite programs. I'm watching, Hey, I

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just love that it was so well
written. I mean, Dick Wolfe is

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a genius when it comes to drama
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of writers that really wrote good stuff. You know, not every one of

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them was a five star episode,
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tell relaxing nowadays, I am what
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that you use. I'm maxing out. I'm sitting down and watching through all

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of the episodes, one at a
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binge watching, Okay, watching,
Thank you very much. Perfect. I'm

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having fun with it. It's enjoyable. And somebody said, where do you

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find the time? You find time
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Absolutely right, right, I will
tell you you value. I can

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tell you what you value by how
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you by what's in your calendar tells
me who you are and what you absolutely

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right? Okay, all right,
Well I want to go into this next

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thing here because I looked I looked
at your your blog. It's amazing to

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me that you've still got that blog
out there. And what is it?

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What's it called living fully? What's
it called living life fully? Dot there?

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It is all my search awesome.
I love at living life fully dot

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com. So one of the things
that you say right there, biggest bold

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and it certainly aligns with my space
herb. As you say, I believe

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the strength to live your life the
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that you were put here for a
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more about your perspective on that.
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Christian. My dad was a minister, my great my grandfather was a minister,

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and I just fell into a trige. However, after attending seminary,

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I started I worked in a church
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But something wasn't feeling right for me. It just didn't fit. I spent

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six years as a pastor. But
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it was, and that was I
had spent six years in the army as

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a second lieutenant in Vietnam, and
I spent a year in combat. Most

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of that time was in combat,
and got home and just said no more

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of that and turned my back on
it. But when I finished seminary and

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I started my ministry work as a
pastor, I began to realize, this

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is not this is not what God
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it. There was no flash of
lightning, there was no voice out in

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the never the netherland that said this
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a realization and I said, this
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it wasn't. Two days later,
a friend of mine called from the Pentagon.

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He said, herb, I saw
where you graduated from a seminary and

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we had known each other in Vietnam, and I said yeah. He said,

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so denied, why don't you come
join the army as a chapter Come

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back in, Come on back in? And I said, bingo, that

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was it. It's like there was
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to tell people God speaks to us
in so many different ways. The problem

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is is we get certain expectations in
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think God speaks to it. When
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his voice through other people. Especially
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and you're listening for it, you
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And I'm gonna tell you what I
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years as a chaplain in the Army
Reserves, paralleling. I tell people that

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I said it was such a joy. Once a month, for two days

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I got a chance to put on
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different from standing in working in the
classroom or at my desk, or working

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on some college committee or something like
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gave me a complete It helped me
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is really all about. And especially
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of nineteen ninety, I got the
phone call that said, you have to

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report on Saturday this coming Saturday at
the Reserve Center. The unit has been

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called up to active duty. Oh
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to take my place in the classroom. One week before school started, and

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that was thank goodness, he already
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into my position. And this lady
who took over, she had no intentions

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of continuing full time. She agreed
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I got back, she happily stepped
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And I'll tell you I cannot.
I'm sorry. I get a little

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did a little feelings. You know, the people that I have known in

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my life, I could not be
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And I think if we open our
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just for who they are, not
what we expect them to be, that's

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not the way to look at other
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accept them the way they are,
warts and all, absolutely beautiful, warts

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and all interesting, warts and all. Yes, absolutely, And it's our

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it's our our flaws that remind us
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accept one another's humanity fully and completely. And wow, you know, I

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didn't mean to get all sappy on
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I don't think we've had a good
conversation. But hold that thought her,

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let's grab our last break. I'm
doctor Leise Cortez. I'm your host of

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the Working on Purpose program with It
on the air with HERB Senate. He

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is a writer at film director,
speaker, executive vice president Florida Writers Association,

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retired college professor, and is now
running for the Florida House. He

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joins it a different West Palm Beach, Florida. After the break, We're

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going to hear a few things he
learned about being a chaplain. Stay with

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us, will be right back.
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back to Working on Purpose. Thanks for

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staying with us, and welcome back
to Working on Purpose. If you're just

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tuning in, My guest is Herb
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I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortez. So from here for the rest

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of the conversation, I really wanted
to talk about a few things that you

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really stand for and what you've learned
by being a chaplain and some of the

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things that you talk about when you're
out speaking inspirationally. So a couple of

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things. We don't have a whole
lot of time left on the show,

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so a couple things that you took
away, things that were important for you

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serving as a chaplain. What did
you learn. I think that the most

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important thing is people. Other people
really you appreciated when when you sincerely approached

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them and offer helping hand and it
doesn't help. It doesn't happen as often

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as perhaps we some of us remember
from being around a while now. I

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remember the days when growing up it
was I never could appreciate that. But

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at the same time, as I
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it is to have good relationships with
people around here, that there is nothing

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else more important. Than other people. That's you can have all the wealth

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in the world and be absolutely miserable, or you can have all the wealth

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and the world and be absolutely happy. The wealth doesn't have anything to do

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with it, right, It has
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Two things on that are first,
I just this afternoon had a great

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conversation with a guest that's coming down
my show later this year. His name

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is Norman Wolf, and he has
a book called The Living Organization, and

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he was saying in our conversation that
relationships are living organisms. They're their own

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personality, all of them. So
everything is a relationship and so and he

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too says that they really our health
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relationships. And I think that's so
true. Secondly, related to that,

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I really want to go back and
thank you for being real and authentic and

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letting us into your heart by letting
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get moved. One of the things
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her, but it's in my book
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an inspirational leader, you have to
get used to being able to let people

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see you be moved. Because that's
how we get access to you. We

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all want to know that we can
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when you look, I forget how
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That is beautiful. So I just
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in and showing us in modeling what
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through and through and always remember you
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Everyone else is taken. I love
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start with start with finding your happiness
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because I really did. I shared
this show as really a source of

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inspiration and encouragement. So what else
can you share with us that you've learned

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from being a chaplain or what you've
learned along your life, the lessons and

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the messages that you like to share
when you're speaking and relating to people.

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I am the happiest that I can
be when I am alongside someone else who

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is striving for their dream and that
I cannot I cannot even begin to imagine

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that. I tell you I have
stories that would go on for years about

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the students that I have helped along
the way. I'm sure there are a

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few students who hate me, but
not just market. I'm just any teacher

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worth their while. As a few
that weren't happy, but the ones that

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latched on and saw something in me
and saw something or heard something I said,

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or it saw something I did that
encouraged them to move forward and move

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on in their life, isn't it. I'm stunned at times the number of

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former students that I have that are
friended me on Facebook and LinkedIn and follow

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me on Twitter and things. I
think that's I think that's an encouragement to

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me that somewhere along the way I'm
to pick up from an old musical,

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somewhere in my youth or childhood,
I must have done something to it.

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It's beautiful and you know it for
our listeners. Let me let me share

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my perspective on how that lands for
me as a logotherapist, I'm focused on

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on the space of meaning as really
our our ultimate concern is how we how

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we make meaning of our lives,
and that's in the moment and across our

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lives. And according to that inquiry, there's three ways, the three sources

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of meaning there's what we give of
ourselves to the world, our creations,

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and so what you're giving is this
is one of the one of your sources

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of meaning. Why this still feels
so good for you is because you're giving

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something really, really precious of yourself, this encouragement. Right now. The

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second source of meaning that we all
have access to is experiential and those are

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the encounters and experiences that we have
in life that breathe life into us and

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register as meaningful. So your encouragement
then is the student's inspiration. They receive

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it as inspiration, right. And
then the third source of meaning is the

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attitude attitudinal, which is the stance
that we take in response to whatever life

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service to us. And so that
gets to mindset and such. We have,

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as you said earlier, complete control
over the mindset and the attitude that

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we assign when we're confronting things,
and that is actually a source of meaning

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for us. So your creation,
your passion of encouragement then lands as inspiration

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is received as inspiration by your students. And what a beautiful exchange is that.

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That's why it's meaningful to both of
you. Thank you so much.

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I appreciate it. And if I
might add my website loving Lifefully dot com.

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I also have heard said it dot
com novels by Herb dot com done

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just a few things, yes,
and author Herb Senate dot com. I

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run about six websites. And keeps
me out of trouble, I guess you

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might say, and keeps me busy, keeps my mind sharp, which is

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so important. Well, and you're
also a service Herb. So that goes

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back to my said about my parents. Absolutely, there's another another idea in

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on logotherapy we've just called self transcendence, and I'm sure you're extremely familiar with

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that given your work as a minister
and of the chaplain. Right, when

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we're in service of other people,
it's amazing how we lose sight of whatever

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troubles that we've we've got right,
it's amazing, no kidding, It is

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stunning and I and I love every
minute of it. It makes life meaningful.

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Well, and that's what I mean. Has that been so? What

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what what people don't assarily understand and
it's kind of a bit elusive. Well,

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what's really meaning is essentially an energy
source. That's why we blo onto

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it, That's why it's so important. So when we talk about something being

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meaningful. What it means is it
has an emotional registry for us, it

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reads an a limbic brain, and
it's that's alongside memories and memories essentially,

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but that's why it stands in that
space for us, and so we hang

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onto it as a as a memory
and as an emotion, and therefore it's

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it's meaningful. Absolutely, I appreciate
that I kind of spend more time in

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your website. I like hanging out
with me, you know, I like

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I laugh at my jokes, I
respond to my questions, you know.

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Absolutely, that's that's that's that's what
That's what life really is. There's so

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many things I could talk about,
but you know, just taking charge of

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your own life. Oh, that's
the name of one of my talks,

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take charge. Absolutely, it's it's
it doesn't work any other way. And

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if you don't take charge of your
life, if you let other people run

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your life, you will most assuredly
die of broken, miserable human being.

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Yeah. I'm really the best boss
in life I've ever had, really,

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and not just in my of my
life, and the best boss I've ever

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had, absolutely, I really am. And so I love that idea of

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taking charge. What other nuggets can
you can you surface for our listening and

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dower that are on your mind that
you think, I don't find out what

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you love absolutely? What kind of
what kind of things do you really thoroughly

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enjoy doing? My problem wasn't I
had too many, so I had to

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narrow them down some. However,
it didn't take me very long to figure

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out the things I didn't like doing, and I moved away from those very

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quickly got out of it. And
if you find yourself in a miserable situation,

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I don't think in terms of how
do I get out of this?

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No, say, okay, now, what about all of this? Can

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I find to find some enjoyment?
What fun is there? That's why I

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tolerated college. I had fun,
though at the same time I tolerated the

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classes. Then I got to graduate
school, but then I had focused.

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I knew where I was heading when
I got When I went to graduate school,

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which by the way, was an
absolute miracle with my GPA. With

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my GPA, nobody would consider except
for one thing. I went to the

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speech and Drama department at Memphis,
at the University of Memphis and just talked

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to them and said you know,
I'd like to do some graduate work and

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they said, well, you know
your GPA is that said, we'll just

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give me a chance. Let me
let me try it. And they said,

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okay, the summer semester starting in
a week. Once you sign up,

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we'll accept you provisionally and if you
make all a's and b's in the

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four classes that you have to take, then we will consider well, we'll

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come back and revisit this. The
first two classes I took, I made

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a's. Would you believe that?
They called me into the office and said,

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okay, herb, we're going to
go ahead and retroactively put you as

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a graduate student A bounding those classes
towards your master's degree, and let's just

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go ahead from here. I said, yeah, well that means that like

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tuition is going to go up to
the said, well, yeah, there

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is that, but we want you
to stay. And so they gave me

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a shot at it. Well you
asked for it goes back to taking charge.

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Her Absolutely, I knew what I
wanted. I knew what I wanted

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and it has served me so well. And then I didn't have any difficulty

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whatsoever getting into two doctoral programs.
Would you believe I was a doctoral student

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at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. At
the same time, I was a Master

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of Fine Arts student at Florida Atlantic
University. Yes, I would believe that.

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And I was teaching full time,
and I made mostly in all a's

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and b's in the graduate courses.
Both sides wrote a dissertation for one then

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received a second master's degree after I
completed that doctoral program was in an entirely

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different field. And and and I'll
tell you what, I've kept myself challenged

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too. I set my goals a
little bit higher. Now, I don't

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set my goals too high. And
there's where a lot of people miss it.

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They say said grandios and then grandiose
goals, and then they they get

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so frustrated because they can't reach it. We'll du it's just started latter at

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a time. Yeah, it's too
far out of reach. And therefore it's

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just they're going to give up at
the first time that they hit a roadblock.

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Yes, so here we are already
we minute to do it. We've

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run out of time. So and
say just about thirty minutes her, what

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was you want to leave our listeners
with. We have listeners that from across

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the globe. They come to hear
about how to be able to work with

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more meaning, passion and inspiration and
lead accordingly. What was we to leave

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them with? Do what you love, of love what you do works for

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me, absolutely works. Herb,
thank you so much for being on the

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show and sharing your heart, your
soul. You are a perfect example of

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somebody who really is living large.
This is how we do it. We

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have one precious life. Don't squander
it, go for it, go for

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the gusto. It's it's worth the
run. So tell us one more time.

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Two of the websites they can find
you at Loving life fully dot com

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and herb senate dot com. And
I think my name is right there is

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or excuse me right there? Well
it's from people that are listening, So

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it's at RB as the N N
E T T is how he spakes his

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name. Awesome. Last week,
if you missed the live show, you

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can always catch a recorded podcast.
We were on the year with Lauren Hollows

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talking about purpose based management and education
and how critical this approach is, especially

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in COVID nineteen times. Next week
we'll be live on the show with James

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00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.840
Sinclair of Enterprise alumni and talking about
the work that they do to help companies

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00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.559
stay connected to their contingent labor pool
and drive referrals or boomerang hires. See

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you there, Remember that work is
at least third alive. So let's work

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00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:20.760
on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed
this week's program. Be sure to tune

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into Working on Purpose, featuring your
host, doctor Elise Cortez, each week

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00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:30.840
on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.
Together, we'll create a world where business

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operates conscientiously, leadership inspires impassioned performance, and employees are fulfilled in work that

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provides the meaning and purpose they crave. See you there, Let's work on purpose.