Tell Your Story: Anxiety and Depression in Teens

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onto this week's program with me right
next to me, and we are doing

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this via Facebook line stream as well. Is Griffin Holpey. He is a

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nineteen year old singer songwriter based here
in Dallas, Texas. He is a

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voracious songwriter and writes and performs high
energy blues rock. He plans to continue

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and develop his singing career book continue
to spread his message through speaking and his

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music that you are not alone.
We'll be talking about his early teen struggle

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with anxiety, depression, and abandonment
concerns, and what he's doing in schools

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to share what he's learned as a
powerful and relatable spokesperson on the topic.

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Of course, I'm also going to
ask him to sing we are here Together

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in his home. And this is
again, as I said via Facebook Live

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as well, Griffin, welcome for
the first time to working on purpose.

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Thank you, Thank you so much. I'm glad to be here. Isn't

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this fun? So I've known you
for many, many, many YEARSS and

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I have been hosting this radio show
for more than four years, and this

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is the first time you've been on
it. So for our listeners who don't

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know anything about you as I do, so you share a little bit about

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your background. I know you were
born in Russia and you were adopted by

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of course the Hopey family here in
Dallas. At first, I think it

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probably makes sense to tell us the
experience of what it was like to be

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adopted and what that was like for
you. Yeah, well, adoption is

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like one of the biggest silver linings
in the world ever, of all time,

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just in general, because there's a
very interesting dichotomy. So, like,

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I was born in Russia and my
birth mother was nineteen years old.

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She was from Ukraine, and in
that part of the world at that time,

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having a child out of wedlock was
something worthy of tossing out a family

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member on the street. So she
hid her pregnancy from her family and fled

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to Russia, and she gave birth
to me on February fourteenth in two thousand

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and stayed with me for two days
roughly, and then put me up for

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adoption in Lebertski Baby Home. Which
is one of the reasons that I wonder

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every day why I'm here. It's
just such a coincidence that I was adopted

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by such a beautiful family here in
Texas. So eight months later I was

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adopted, and it worked basically by
my parents getting tapes from different adoption agencies

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and looking at babies, and they
saw me and they just immediately knew that

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I was the one. So okay, awesome. Two things really quick on

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dates. Interesting that your mother had
you at nineteen, your same age.

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Can you imagine having a child now
you're sorry, right? And secondly you

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were born in Valentine's Day. Yeah, oh my god. Nobody explains everything

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why you're so lovable? Thank you. Okay, So now for those people,

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and it's interesting, I'd love to
hear there's people watching here on Facebook

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live stream. Maybe some of you
have adopted someone or maybe you yourself are

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adopted. So now we want to
understand what was the experience of being adopted

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that contributed to your depression, your
abandoning. Yeah. Well, so a

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lot of things that we deal with
subconsciously and that come out and our behavior

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and our interactions with other people without
us really understanding what the sources, why

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it's happening, why we feel the
way we do. I'm in a lot

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of my frustration within my abandonment had
to do with my behavior, so like

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I was acting out quite a bit
and basically around in high school. It

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We've had a lot of other factors
in it, but ultimately, over the

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years, just this idea that,
you know, from the day I was

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born, I had two days and
in those two days, my birth mother

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decided on her personal family over me. And that's something that I can't control

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in any way, shape or form. I've never met her. I have

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a letter from her, and I
know what her name is. It's Takina

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Mikolovnchenglas. Oh my gosh, you're
staying it's so beautiful. I thank you.

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I practiced it. But and I
don't know anything about my father.

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But that lack of knowing, it's
not as much about the feeling of abandonment.

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It's a lot about the lack of
knowing and not really being able to

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say I know exactly where I came
from. And that had an effect on

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me. And when I was depressed, that was something that really pushed me

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over the edge. That you know, added fuel to the fire. So

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say more about you mentioned acting out? So what is acting out me?

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What kind of oh here talking about
your self harm? You know, drinking

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and drugging. At the time of
my life, I was and I was

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thirteen, fourteen years old in high
school at sat Mark School of Texas,

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and I over the course of six
months, i'd emptied every bottle of liquor

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in my family's liquor cabinet. Wow, which is an impressive feet but not

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a good thing to be proud of. And you know, I would get

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home from school and I would just
lay in bet I wouldn't do my homework.

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I wouldn't want to talk to anybody. I didn't want to be a

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part of the world. I just
wanted to feel better. And I didn't

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feel like anybody else had that answer
for me or had that ability. And

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I knew that you have to feel
better on your own, but I didn't

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know how to get there, and
so you know, it eventually ended up

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with me running away from home,
which is a crazy story. Yeah.

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Wow. So first two things really
quick. Depression is real, real,

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It's a real, real, real
deal. It's so so important that we

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talk with you. Hear of the
listeners that you're hearing this is that if

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you feel anything like this, this
is a real deal. It's not something

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to be poop pooed or pushed aside
or oh it's not you know, it's

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not something that I should take for
real or whatever you want to say.

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Actually, it takes lives. Yeah, it takes so many lives. Yeah.

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Yeah. So so now so here
you are, you're what'd you say,

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thirteen or fourteen years old? Thirteen
or fourteen years old? Okay,

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and so so now let's go for
a little bit further into this deal.

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So then you get into eighth grade. What was going on for you in

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the eighth grade? Okay? So
in the eighth grade that actually happened before

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everything else. I kind of jumped
again, Sorry, y'all's all right.

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So in the eighth grade, I
left a band that I put together with

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a school that i'd worked at,
well, I've taken lessons at called Sound

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Sounds, and I'd basically written all
the songs for this band lyric wise and

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worked on the chords of progressions and
spent so many hours up at three in

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the morning when I shouldn't have been
sitting there trying to write songs because it's

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what I love to do. And
I actually got pushed out to the edge

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of that, and that triggered this
change in my psyche because my identity was

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connected to my band at school.
So at Saint Mark's, some of you

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might not know, it's a very
prestigious boys school, very high on athletics

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and academics, and I was like
the kid who you know, wore skinny

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jeans to the football games and got
made up fun of for that and got

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called gay for that and stuff,
which is the stupidest reason to pick on

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anybody, but though it is such
a dumb reason. But basically I got

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kicked out of the band pretty much. I left and got kicked out almost

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simultaneously, and it was like I
had lost another family that I'd identified with,

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and so that really kicked off a
summer of frustration. And we went

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on vacation and I was acting fool
and when I got home, basically a

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week before or school started, a
few days before school started, I had

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one could some could say a suicide
attempt, some could say just really hardcore

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suicidal ideazation. But I'd hung up
a noose in my room and I was

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too drunk to actually get myself into
it, and I passed out and fell

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on the floor and woke up the
next day and my parents were like,

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Okay, yeah, we're going to
solve this right now. So I spent

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my first week of high school in
children's hospital in the psych word. Okay,

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so first I want to understand what
was that like, so, because

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you did tell me that that's a
whole week, that was your first week

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of high schochool. You're in the
psych word at Dallas Children's Hospital. What

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was that like? Very interesting?
So when you get into an environment like

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that, there's a lot of different
people with different issues, so you get

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to learn, you get to one
see wow, you know either you know,

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I've got it good in regards to
my life and stuff, and I

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don't know why I'm sad, you
know, which causes another question because you

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see other people who are in much
worse situations. But that was kind of

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the start of getting the vernacular and
the understanding of the words and the descriptions

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and the visualizations of what's going on
in my brain, what's going on in

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my emotions because up until this point
in my life, I understood that your

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heart was where your emotions come from, because I'd seen that in Disney movies

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and whatnot. But it's really your
brain. It's chemicals in the brain,

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and so on the physical aspect,
I learned about, you know, the

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science of it, and on the
other aspect, I learned a lot of

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coping mechanisms. So, you know, I got home, my parents were

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really frustrated because I started drumming for
two hours a day in our garage,

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which is extremely loud, drawing,
drumming, drumming with the drum, kity

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okay. And there's a lot of
things that we do every day that we

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don't understand actually puts us a little
bit deeper down in the hall when every

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day you should be building a rung
to the ladder. And so I kind

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of learned how to switch my energy
from you know, digging myself downwards further

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and isolating myself to kind of growing
out of it. And I learned all

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of that, but I didn't use
it. I knew what it was,

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and I just refused to use it. I was being cocky. Why why

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did you refuse to use it?
I just had this anger. I'd been

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bullied for I basically at a school
i'd been in. I've lived in Mexico

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for two years with my family and
been bullied there, and I had felt

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eventually, by the time we left, I felt happy. I was like

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finally in my place, and then
we just got ripped out of it again,

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which is understandable because we were there
for a purpose, just to learn

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how to speak Spanish. But that
affected me too, and when I got

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back, I was a different kind
of person who saw a different part of

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the world and a different perspective.
And so when I wasn't readily accepted by

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people, I kind of put it
in on myself, thinking, you know,

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this is my fault, like something's
wrong with me. And also I

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wanted I wanted to see society burn, to be honest, Guns and Roses

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Appetite for Destruction album was the soundtrack
of my life at that period and the

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way that and I know this is
music stuff, but I love to communicate

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with music, the anger that Zakila
Roache from writes against the Machine and actual

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Rose has and Guns and Roses,
even whether it be may be true or

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not, that's something that I wanted
to actualize. Like I was so angry

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because I didn't understand why people didn't
want to just love me. I didn't

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understand why I was being bullied,
and I didn't have the answers for that,

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even though I've been through you know
that treatment, I thought that I

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had the answers myself. Yeah,
And so it goes to show that even

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if somebody has been through treatment,
it starts when you get out that's not

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the beginning of your life again,
you know, it starts when you get

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out of treatment and you actually have
to put it into you know, into

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play in everyday life. Yeah,
okay. So here's what I'm finding really

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interesting about this. I have known
you. Let's see, I met your

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I'm happy to say that I introduced
my ex husband to your dad. Oh

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yea years and years ago through my
Christmas card, through my holiday Christmas.

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That's how it happens. It takes
so much credit for that Christma hoping that

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is going to go down in industry
for my life. And so I got

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to know you pretty pretty soon into
that whole deal. So here's what it's

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remarkable about listening to you tell the
story for sure. Now, mind you,

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I didn't know you super well.
You've been at my house many times,

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but I never knew you were going
through all this stuff. Nobody did

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it, Nobody really did. So
that's that's the part of the point that

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we're trying to make here, right, is being able to bring this out

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into the into the the world and
share it with people who can actually help

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us. I know it's part of
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that, one of the things that
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this, is that you felt lonely
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even even if you could talk to
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not going to be able to help
you. But were you able to talk

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with your friends about this stuff?
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you're in high school, in middle
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by the time you're eighteen and graduate, either everyone around you is either lost

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a parent or grandparents of some lost
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heartbroken in some way or another,
and has probably faced either a mental health

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issue or a situational issue with their
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But before that, talking to your
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Kids, they're in the same position
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or in eighth or ninth grade and
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life and you tell your friends,
I feel sad in the biggest crowds,

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It's like, why do you feel
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I don't know, Maybe because I
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to talk to me. And so
in that regard. They can't really help.

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They don't have the knowledge and the
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of my message I would say is
the hardest thing is a kid to do,

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and especially in today's day and age, because kids don't converse with adults

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as much as they used to,
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account unt, somebody in your school, somebody you trust, and sometimes that's

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not even your parents, because your
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So that would be my message.
I would say, you know, the

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biggest problem that we're facing is not
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going on for a long time.
It's the fact that people don't want to

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say anything about it. People want
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not going to lie. When I
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We did that. We hushed hush
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to know because we didn't know what
was going to happen. Right. They

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had the idea like Griffin's going to
kill himself. He is no longer going

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to be around, and we're going
to be that family that people always look

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at us and say, I'm sorry. And so the best thing to do

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is to reach out, because you'll
be so surprised to find that every single

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person within your vicinity is going to
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Because we're American people. We love
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have a friend belief in the fact
that everyone's born as a good human being.

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And when I did data, eventually
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truth and people did that. Okay, that is so great. I'm going

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to make a comment on what you
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break here Griffin and listeners here on
Facebook. I'm Elise Cortes, your host

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run Nair with Griffin Holpey, who
is a nineteen year old singer songwriter here

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in Dallas, Texas. He plans
to continue to develop his singing career while

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purposefully spreading his message through speaking and
his music that you are not alone.

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Having learned and transformed himself through his
own experiences with anxiety, depression, and

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abandonment. We are here in his
Stalla's home for this conversation. We've been

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talking a bit about his background,
what was like for him to be adopted,

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going through the abandonment of depression issues. After the break, we're going

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to talk more about what he's doing
to share his message and hear some of

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his music. Stay with us,
We'll be right back. Alice Cortez is

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leadership and engagement workshops and can bring
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help ignite meaningful development within your workforce
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retention. To learn more or to
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Alise at Aleasecortes dot com. Now
back to working on purpose, back to

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working at profession. Thanks for tuning
again this week. If you're just joining

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us, if you're just joining us
now. My guest is Griffin Hopeman Hope

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who is an eighteen year old singer
songwriter based here in Dallas, Texas.

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He is a voracious songwriter and writes
and performs his high energy blues rock.

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He plans to continue and develop his
singing career will continuing to spread his message

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through speaking and his music that you
are not alone to help people, especially

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youth still in school, get the
help they need when confronting anxiety or depression.

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I'm your host, Alice Cortez.
All right, that works. Thank

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you so much, Arvin. This
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young people. Okay, So what
I wanted to say about what you were

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sharing before we took our break there, So you're talking about not feeling like

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you could share your message. You
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feeling the way that you were feeling
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things that we know is that in
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all the technology actually makes us feel
like we should know a lot of people

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to be connected, but we're not, and so it makes it worse.

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It amplifies the problem. Yes,
it's a non issue, exactly right.

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And so I really appreciate your message
about being able to not just talk with

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your friends who aren't equipped to be
able to handle something like this, but

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adults who can. So who did
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that was a kind of an interesting
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year, and I was telling you
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year, I was in the same
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Like I said, I didn't listen
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reason that I finally got help was
I eventually ran away from home for forty

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eight hours. And then I did
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my parents realized, we're never going
to see our kid again. If he

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doesn't come home, he's just going
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going to happen. So they hired
a private investigator, which didn't work,

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and I ended up just coming home
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the next day with the goons in
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what goons are, they're just two
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with a pair of handcuffs and take
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walk into a treatment center to treatment. And so they had custody of me

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for like six hours and put me
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a rehab treatment center that is actually
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while I was, which is crazy
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and I was just being just a
cocky jerk at that point. I

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was just angry. And what finally
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Blue Fire, an angel fire called
uh or sorry blue Fire in Utah or

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Idaho sorry it gets mixed up Idaho. And it was a wilderness survival therapy

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thing for ten weeks. Wow.
And the therapist there, John Warbitz.

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Yeah, I had I showered once
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no time, just a tarp.
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a sleeping bag and a bag and
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to like cook hero own food and
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basics. There's no social media exactly. There's no social media. You have

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to do meditation every day without like
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you can't complain. They don't care
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you have and there's no running away
running over there. If you run away

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in the wrong direction, you will
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Yeah, basically, so you're stuck
there and are uh. We called him,

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we used to call him like the
rock star therapist because he had this

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long wavy hair and stood on top
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But John Wrbitz he just didn't take
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he's like, you're lying. Proved
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this, and he would just go
hard. And I hated sessions with him

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sometimes, but he really made me
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you know, And from there on, that's kind of when the process

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started of the healing process. So
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Catalysts for ten months and worked with
a therapist. There as like a frat

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house with like twenty five guys,
but just switched frat with therapy and you

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just can't leave on your own obviously. And uh, that's really where the

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change happened for me. Wow,
that is just amazing. Okay, So

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a couple things real quick for the
people that are both watching here on Facebook

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Live and who are listening to this
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did you run away and escape?
Before you? I ran out my front

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door. You ran out your barctor
bag ran out my front door. I

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was, okay, this is my
dad's gonna kill me for being honest.

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But I don't care. I want
you guys to know the real meme and

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the fear about it is that like
I'll have another episode or like something like

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that in my life where I have
a really bad time in one year or

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something like that. That's not gonna
happen because I have music and I know

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exactly what I'm gonna do with the
rest of my life. But at this

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time, I was, you know, I was drinking a lot, and

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I thought it would be a good
idea to just put a towel on the

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door and try to smoke cigarettes in
my room with all of my windows open.

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And I have a connecting room to
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and that was just an idiot idea. So I have my dad basically break

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down my door because it was locked, and comes into my room starts screaming

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at me, which you rightfully,
so, like, what the hell was

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I doing. I was fourteen years
old, and I already packed a bag

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right by the door, and I
just waited it out, waited for them

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to go to sleep, and I
just grabbed it and bolted and just went

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straight to a friend's house. Yeah, okay. It was a very very

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volatile, negative acidic situation, and
it was caused by me, and I

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didn't know really what to do,
and so the smartest thing for me was

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to get to a place where I
could escape all the time, which for

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me was alcohol. And so I
wanted to be in a place where I

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wouldn't have anybody holding me back from
at that point the solution to my pain.

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in my mind, it felt like
my parents have already proven that they

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can't help me, but it was
because I hadn't said anything. I hadn't

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told them anything. The only thing
that they'd done to help me because I

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wouldn't say anything and let them help
me, was send me away to places.

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And that created a very angry discord
between me and my family that I

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used to my advantage at that time. Yeah, okay, so you know,

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I have a sixteen year old daughter
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we're in a pretty good place.
But what I do recognize so is

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just hard to grow up in this
world. It's just really hard. And

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so for those of you who are
listening to this, whether you are yourself,

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somebody that's gone through life, and
it's been hard for you. Maybe

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it's hard for you this very moment, or you have a child and it's

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hard for them. I hope that
what you're getting out of this conversation is

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the presence of just the rawness of
all this and how intense all this is,

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and for you not knowing where to
put all this stuff. Where do

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I take this stuff? It's like
I wrote a short story for school about

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it that was part fantasy, part
real. But I don't remember anything from

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those four days really. I remember
using my personal By the way, parents,

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this might sound like a side note, but any app that tracks your

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children, they can track you,
so if you ever lose them and they

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run away from you, then they
can use that to find out where you're

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looking for them and nowhere to be, which is what I did and the

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person that I was at that time. I can't explain to you who it

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was because any conversations or interactions I
would have would end in anger and frustration

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and yelling. And I didn't know
what I wanted, like I just was

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a angry ball of frustration that just
wanted to be away from any responsibility anyone

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who cared, because I had a
personal driven like nailed in belief that nobody

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can help me. It's not worth
working with anybody. Nobody can help me.

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And so you know, it became
a It became a I put four

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days became a year's worth of work. Okay, so a couple of things.

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This is amazing. So one of
the things that I say when I'm

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out speaking and in my programs is
we need to embrace adversity because it helps

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us become who we are meant to
become in self. Totally looking at you,

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young, I wouldn't change you freaking
right. I mean, nineteen years

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old, you are heads, neck
and shoulders ahead of so many kids.

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Now, I please, I'm not
saying that I want you guys to go

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through this, please, That's not
what I'm saying. But what you've done,

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the work that you've done to embrace
this stuff and fold it into your

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person to become who you are today
is awesome. And you're welcome. And

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the fact that you're out now,
and the reason I want to have you

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on my show is this is a
show about working on purpose. You are

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completely working on purpose. You are
out now evangelizing your story and sharing very,

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very courageously and vulnerably what you've been
through in your music and in your

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speaking to help others so that they
can get through what you went through,

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right, And I just think that
is so great. And so your message

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is a lot about asking for help
and not walking alone. Yeah, so

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tell us more a little bit,
a little bit more context about that,

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and then I want you to sing
a song. Okay, okay, Well,

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basically, the best thing you can
do if you're depressed or anxious,

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or if you're in high school or
in college, is you just need one

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person to know, like, you
just need one person because you know a

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lot of people in that position they
don't have anybody make decisions that they cannot

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regret because they're not around anymore.
And suicide's a real problem. And if

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you have one person who knows that
either you are suicidal in a way or

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are completely like throwing everything to the
wind, depressed or in any way shape

409
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:41.559
or form mentally unwell, that one
person can kind of keep an eye on

410
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.720
you, even if you feel like
you have to go through it alone,

411
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.680
which you shouldn't have to. Even
if you feel like you can't talk to

412
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.400
anyone or tell them what's going on, you need to have somebody who knows

413
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:55.319
that there is something going on.
Who can you know, say, wow,

414
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.079
I haven't seen them in like two
days. That's a problem, you

415
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.920
know what I mean? Because at
the end of the day, everyone's going

416
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to have a moment like what I
had. It's going to be different.

417
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.359
It's going to be maybe, you
know, somebody loses their daughter in a

418
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.480
car accident because they're drunk or something
like that. It creates shame and anger

419
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.920
within yourself right and personally, I
believe I wouldn't be the when I was

420
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.960
person I am today if I hadn't
faced it alone for so long, because

421
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.119
it doesn't just teach you how to
be a better person, but it teaches

422
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:27.559
you more about yourself. And so
in that regard, if there's nobody to

423
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:32.160
reach out to, you're going to
be screaming in silence and nobody's going to

424
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.519
hear you. And so you're gonna
have to take that leap of faith to

425
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.519
reach out to somebody who might not
be the ideal person, but there has

426
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.960
to be one persons. You can't
go through that alone. And I mean

427
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.559
if I had gone through it completely
alone and I didn't have my parents to

428
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.440
help me, I probably would be
beatter right now. Well, and so

429
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.799
to just to emphasize that point,
and I want to say more about it

430
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:59.680
after you're seeing but we are social
beings. We were we survived because you

431
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.400
know we we lived in caves together. If you're outside the cave, you're

432
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.160
in really big trouble. Oh yeah, right. So the fact that what

433
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:08.039
you're saying to ask for help and
ask an adult for help is really really

434
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.359
important. And what I'll also say
just quickly is that what we know from

435
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.880
the resilience studies is that if you
if you're going through anything in life,

436
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.079
if you have one adult, one
adult who really believes in you and sees

437
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:25.119
you for the special person that you
are, it can make the world.

438
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.519
Oh my gosh, it can change
it all. And you know, every

439
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.000
nobody wants to be like, feel
like they're the weak link, right to

440
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.880
get a friend group if you're the
one who's like depressed or whatever. That's

441
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.279
oftentimes something that I've heard people say, like, I don't want to be

442
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:42.880
the weak link. But it's funny
because I've also seen that person in groups

443
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:51.279
be the person who brings together people
because something like sadness and emotions is so

444
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.039
that everybody understands. Yeah, and
if you don't understand that, then you're

445
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:59.119
not human, that's right. Like
you know, so hypothetically every single person

446
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:00.839
in this world could help another person
with it. Yeah. And so what

447
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.160
you're saying and when I'm out speaking
and working with men and women is there's

448
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.519
so many of us that have and
it starts very early in life. So,

449
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.400
like you're talking about, the conditioning
to shut off our emotions, which

450
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:15.200
is what makes us human beings and
gives us access to the full compliment of

451
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:21.400
humanity, is a catastrophe. It's
just it's why would you cut off half

452
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.079
of your being or more than half
of your being by shutting up your emotions.

453
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.319
So amazing lesson from a young man. Now, we're at a place

454
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.039
where I need to take a quick
break and I don't want to rush your

455
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.519
song, So listeners, if you
will hang us for just one quick second,

456
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.519
we're going to go for our next
short break. I'm Alice Cortez,

457
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.559
your host Pit on the Area with
Griffin Holtby, who is a nineteen year

458
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.079
old singer and songwriter based here in
Dallas. He plans to continue to develop

459
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.359
his singing career while purposely spreading his
message through speaking and his music that you

460
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.319
are not alone, having learned and
transformed himself through his own experiences with anxiety,

461
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.960
depression and abandonment. We're together in
his Dallas home for this conversation.

462
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:57.240
We'll be right back, and he's
going to sing when we come back.

463
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:08.119
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464
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465
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466
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dot com. Now back to working
on purpose with this and welcome back to

472
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.200
working on purpose. If you're just
tuning in. My guest is Griffin Holtby,

473
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.920
who is a nineteen year old singer
and songwriter based here in Dallas,

474
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.519
Texas. He is a woracious songwriter
and writes and performs high energy blues rock.

475
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.000
He plans to continue to develop his
singing career while continue to spread his

476
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.720
message through speaking and his music that
you are not alone to help people,

477
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.480
especially youth still in school, get
the help they need with confronting anxiety or

478
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.039
depression. I'm your host, Alis
Cortes. So for this next part here,

479
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.559
Griffin, as you queue up your
song here, first, before you

480
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.680
play it, I want you to
tell us why did you write the song?

481
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:37.079
Well, there are two songs.
Okay, after coming home treatment,

482
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.519
I didn't do music for a while. I didn't did in different ways,

483
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.200
but that's a long different story.
But listening back to the songs that i'd

484
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.920
put out and written before I went
to treatment, I really realized, like,

485
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.200
wow, I was really writing about
what I was going through and I

486
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:57.319
didn't even know it. But it's
I mean, I think it speaks for

487
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:02.960
itself. It's a very much about
specific events with a girl, but the

488
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:09.039
overall message is it's about being alone
and learning to kind of walk around your

489
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:15.599
own two feet and realizing that you
know, that's not what we remained for,

490
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.319
like we said, for social human
beings, and so you know the

491
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:23.240
feeling of loneliness that anyone feels.
It's like if you drive on the highway

492
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.039
and you're driving, every single person
that's driving in the car by themselves probably

493
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.880
feels the same way because they just
haven't found their people yet. And so

494
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:37.000
yeah, it just kind of acknowledges
the fact that it's not an easy feet

495
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.039
So I got it all right.
So this song is called walk Alone Alone.

496
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:57.880
Yeah. I remember the knives that
we used to fight, sir on

497
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.920
your head so that I didn't have
to see you cry, shame in your

498
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:12.000
eyes burst some love did for me. I remember the makeup running down your

499
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:17.079
face telling me that there's someone else
in that I've been replaced. It's all

500
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:25.960
snow. I was bought. I
was so feared ify they are where you

501
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:34.880
Warren masking. No matter how how
much I hate you and me, it's

502
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:42.320
so hot to let you go and
you're right next to It's not easy.

503
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:53.559
Easy looks to walk alonge, looks
to walk aloone, whoa whoa, whoa,

504
00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:05.360
Oh. Sometimes to see you crying
in your bed every night, But

505
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:12.199
I was always that I hold you
so tired, Oh so cold, I

506
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:17.719
was bought, I was so feel
I've got my six string line on the

507
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.280
floor and perfig tune. Writing all
of the songs. It always reminded me

508
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:31.599
of you. Oh this is goodbye. You always side and me every day?

509
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:40.079
Were you one masty No matter how
much I hate you and me.

510
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:49.440
It's so hard to let you go
and you're right next to It's not easy

511
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:58.639
easy. And it looks to walk
alone, looks to walk alone, because

512
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:08.480
it looks to walk alone. Oh, it loves to walk alow. Yeah,

513
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:21.559
as it looks to walk below because
we all walk alowe. Oh my

514
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.199
gosh. That brings me to tears. It's so beautiful, so beautiful.

515
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:30.199
Wow, Oh my gosh. That's
just talent and heart and passion all together

516
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:37.400
in one package. Oh okay,
so I wish that we could. I

517
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:39.199
love it. Those of you that
are actually joining us via Facebook live through

518
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.519
me. If you have any comments
or reactions to what he just played,

519
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.320
please just post them and we'll read
them as we go. So next,

520
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:50.039
then, Griffin, I know you've
been playing music for years, developing this

521
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:54.800
amazing talent. Now we've just winkissed
it. Are you still planning on becoming

522
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.320
a professional rockstar. Oh yeah,
totally, I'm not going to do Okay,

523
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.800
So here's the deal. I'm a
pairt are going to see this and

524
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.039
go what you did that? Okay. So last year I was applying to

525
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.880
colleges at school and I came up. I came up with a friend of

526
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.840
mine, I grd next to uh. We pulled up on the street next

527
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.320
to this guy and he was in
the front of his car and he has

528
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.840
two daughters in the back, I
guess or a daughter and her friend,

529
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.280
and then the back like jamming out
to like some pop song something I would

530
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.840
never listen to, like jamming out
so hard. The car was moving.

531
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.079
These girls are like six and seven
or something, and he's just like you

532
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.519
could see the whites of his knuckles
on the steering wheel, just like losing

533
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:40.079
his mind. And I realized kind
of in that moment that if I was

534
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.639
in that position working a job,
because in junior year I wasn't I wanted

535
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.440
to be like a writer or something. I'd kind of given up on music

536
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.840
just because I felt like it kind
of caused me some of the pain that

537
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.920
I'd been through. I realized that
if I was thirty five years old,

538
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.639
and I wasn't standing on a stage
in front of a stadium full of people,

539
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.480
and I was sitting in the cool
Instead, I'd probably go home,

540
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:05.519
open a gun cabinet and kill myself, like I And it's a crazy thing

541
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:07.239
to say, right, I understand
that it's a crazy thing to say,

542
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:15.519
But the anger and shame I would
have tour myself for not living the life

543
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.079
that I was meant to live.
That it was so clearly by God or

544
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.800
anything whoever you believe in, Like
I don't know why, but I was

545
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:28.559
put on these earth to right songs
and thank you. And so I even

546
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.800
though Berkley's the school of music,
I've been there, and I really I

547
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:31.880
was like, this's not this,
not the move. I'm going to get

548
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.960
there and I'm going to get distracted
by people and I'm not going to like

549
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.960
know what to do. I sabotaged
every single college entrance I had, and

550
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.159
tell my parents said it was like
a mess up with the computer. But

551
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:50.440
I sabotaged it. And so sometimes
you have to kill something that lit something

552
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:57.480
else crow. And so I landlocked
myself in Dallas, and I'm making it

553
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.119
so that there's no way that I
can't not do music, you know what

554
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.920
I'm saying. Like, I mean, I work other jobs to make money

555
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.400
on the side and stuff, but
every single day I spend in the studio

556
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.320
doing music, working with bands,
putting something together and polishing your craft.

557
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.519
The ones who make it are the
ones who never stop trying. And I'm

558
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.920
never going to stop trying no matter
where it gets me. Oh, let

559
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.199
me just quickly say something real quick. So listeners, if you've been listening

560
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.559
to the show for any period of
time, you know that what I stand

561
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.960
for itself and you discover and grow
your purpose, it is worth looking for,

562
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:28.840
it's worth working at, and it
takes some real efforts and real work

563
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.400
to do this. It doesn't just
happen. Oh. Look, you know

564
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:35.079
it's all rainbows and butterflies. Oh
it's all great. It takes something to

565
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.760
do that, and I really want
to applaud you for sticking with it and

566
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.440
showing us what it means to be
able to really stand in your place of

567
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.840
purpose and not let it go,
recognize that it's a precious thing that you

568
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.039
can't let go. And also i'd
like to say on that is sometimes it's

569
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.320
scarier. It's like the hot Okay, you know how they say, take

570
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:58.519
the what's the word, take the
passive path of least resistance. Sometimes your

571
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.440
path is the passive molt resistance.
And sometimes what you do and who you

572
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:07.599
are can scare you into not wanting
to be that anymore. And sometimes people

573
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.480
will kick you down while you're on
the ground. And the fact that you

574
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.039
believe in what you do, that
alone will give anyone the power to not

575
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.280
stop and make it be successful in
whatever they do. It has nothing to

576
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.679
do with how smart you are,
where you went to whether or not you

577
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.000
went to like MIT and graduate school, like, it doesn't matter. What

578
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:29.760
matters. Is there a fire burning
in your heart? And do you care?

579
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.199
And was it? Like? Are
you going to get there? What

580
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:37.199
are you going to do about it? And I wouldn't really understand that unless

581
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.360
I've gone through what I have well
and also to your point to your message,

582
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.440
you're going to need help to get
there. Oh yeah, you're going

583
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.360
to need to be asking for help
all the way along and getting good at

584
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.679
asking for help. By the way, ladies and gentlemen, yours truly is

585
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.039
had to learn that too. So
it's not a weak thing to do,

586
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.519
not at all, not at all. In fact, I want to talk

587
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.800
a little bit about you speaking in
school, so I want to understand where

588
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.960
this whole idea came from to be
on speaking is school. Okay, so

589
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.400
what's the name of the organization that
you were speaking through. It was an

590
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:09.920
Also Nation All Star Nation. Yeah. So basically there was this tour thing

591
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.079
that I went on called Also Nation
where they went to a bunch of different

592
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:17.719
schools and set up a giant concert. Basically, if you go to school,

593
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.599
you show up and they're like,
okay, you got an assembly in

594
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:22.400
the gym. It's like sweetly got
out of math class. And then you

595
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.400
show up and they'd show up and
they'd be like a whole light fixture and

596
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.440
like a screen, and honestly,
it was beautifully put together. And we

597
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.440
would come out and play songs,
play great shows, and these kids would

598
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.000
be doing the wave and then we'd
stop and we'd be like, Okay,

599
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.679
here's bullying. This is what we're
going to talk about today. And so

600
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.519
like they're kind of cornered into like
who we're paying attention. We can't just

601
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.039
like sit back and watch you like
this like you're an adult. You know,

602
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.840
who's who don't want to talk to
we have to be engaged and the

603
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:55.440
power of bringing music and social connection
and social speaking and talking about mental health

604
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:01.679
issues. I've been through so many
different mental health like meetings and like seminars

605
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.960
and whatnot, nothing has been that
powerful. We had kids who were six

606
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.559
or seven years old on the ground
crying because something that somebody said is exactly

607
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.239
what they're going through. We had
people coming up to us, kids coming

608
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.880
up with just saying I never told
anybody this, but you know, like

609
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.679
there's these things happening at home that
you know, are affecting my life.

610
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:24.320
And I would never have told anybody
unless you came to school today. And

611
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:30.840
so that really inspired me. I
was just like, Wow, being a

612
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musician isn't just being a guy who
sings. It's also being icon is not

613
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the word like a symbol for something. You have to have a message,

614
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which I did have a well,
yeah, exact, that's the word.

615
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.320
That's the word spokesperson for something through
your music and through your life. And

616
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so I'm going to try to,
you know, find a way to reinvent

617
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that kind of idea somewhere in a
much less you know, insane way where

618
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it could be more intimate, whether
it's you know, going into certain specific

619
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classrooms or classes in colleges or high
schools, high schools and mult schools preferably,

620
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and just around Dallas and try to
spread my message personally and talk about

621
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the things that I've learned, and
you know, hopefully encourage some kids that

622
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are going through something to walk into
a counselor's office, grab a little piece

623
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:22.719
of candy out of the bowl and
sit there and wait for them to be

624
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:27.159
ready and talk to them and say
like And also I think one thing I

625
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.840
want to help people understand is like, if you go talk to a counselor,

626
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they're not going to keep you go
to school. People think if I

627
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.199
go tell them the truth that I
was part of the group that got caught

628
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.840
doing this in the bathroom, like
or whatever, if I was part of

629
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:43.559
the kids who bullied this kid until
they came to the teacher and it was

630
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.320
a problem, but I didn't speak
up, or if I'm going to get

631
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.320
in trouble, it's not like that. Thing that theo's people are there for

632
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.079
is to help you. And nobody, no adult wants to see a child

633
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:57.760
in pain, right, No,
it doesn't at all like anybody with the

634
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.199
right mind wants to help because an
adult in pain is different than a child

635
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.119
in pain. An adult is somebody
who would have their stuff together, but

636
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children that don't have that knowledge.
And so I hope that, you know,

637
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within the next year, I can
kind of get some hadway and going

638
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:16.000
into schools talking to people or just
starting to make connections in schools and talk

639
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.239
to counselors. And maybe we'll do
it through a video or something. I

640
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.039
don't know yet, but okay,
so question for it a couple of things.

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So I don't know if anybody who
gets up in the morning goes,

642
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.000
you know, I just kind of
want to, you know, just be

643
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:30.679
under a rock. I don't want
I don't want anybody to notice that I'm

644
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.960
alive, and I don't want to
make any kind of a difference, you

645
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.400
know. I kind of hope my
life just kind of passes by. Everybody

646
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.280
that I know of wants to make
a difference, wants to matter in some

647
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.920
way. You have an opportunity,
Griffin, to make an enormous difference in

648
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.000
the lives of thousands and maybe millions
of people. Thank you so much.

649
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:49.519
Millions of people, thank you.
And I can tell you the reason I

650
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:51.840
do the work that I do is
because I know a lot of people are

651
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:53.960
walking through life debt and they don't
even know it now. If they get

652
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:59.039
to a place where they're in anxiety
and depression, they need your message.

653
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.800
And so so for you, I
mean, will you consider going even outside

654
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.559
of Dallas to oh yeah and out
lay your music? AKA, I'm just

655
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.639
kidding, okay, but like I
would. I My goal in life is,

656
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.719
you know, in a few years, I want to be touring the

657
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:15.400
country and okay, I want to
maybe even you know, blend my tours

658
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:20.519
together into something where I can play
you know, let's say four or five

659
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:27.880
states and spend two months on tour
instead of like two weeks, and spend

660
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.360
a week in every state, going
to the biggest high schools in that state

661
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.679
or something like that, and just
spread the message that way while I'm performing

662
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.440
at venues. Okay, I think
that is a fantastic plan and strategy.

663
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So listeners around the world, around
the United States, and here's somebody who

664
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:46.880
actually can bring a powerful message,
who's literally been there, done that,

665
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:51.079
got the mess, got the T
shirt and the bloody knows and everything else

666
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.639
with it. Who can bring a
message that that kids need to hear.

667
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:58.039
So just keep that in mind as
you're considering how to how to interact with

668
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.760
this young man. We're almost at
the time here, But two things really

669
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:06.199
quick. What do you think parents
need to understand about what to look for,

670
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:10.000
notice or support their team when they're
maybe experiencing sadness depression? What could

671
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.519
they notice if you get into the
car and you ask your kid how is

672
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:16.119
your day at school today? And
they say good, stop the car and

673
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.519
turn around and say, Okay,
I'm going to stay here until you tell

674
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.039
me what happens today. You know, I'm saying, like, push for

675
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.519
answers. Don't just let kids get
away with telling you nothing, because that

676
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.159
is the worst thing you could do, Like, you don't want to be

677
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.480
uninformed. If it was I had
to do with kids' safety physical personal safety

678
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.599
of like life or death in that
regard, parents would be all over that.

679
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:38.400
They'd be like, tell me what's
going on right? Right? But

680
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:45.719
since it's a emotional social interaction kind
of issue bullying and anxiety and social depression

681
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.239
and whatnot, it goes unnoticed because
you can get into a habit of being

682
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:52.400
like, how is your day at
school today? Good? And I get

683
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.280
to the kids, tired or whatever, but then at the dinner table,

684
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.880
push for it. Understand what's going
on because there's so many people who are

685
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:04.119
being bullied online, who are being
bullied in school, who are having things

686
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.280
going on at home. We're having
things going on, even having teachers being

687
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.519
bullying them. You know, I'm
saying that don't say anything because they're afraid

688
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.199
and nobody pushes them. Okay,
that isn't That's so powerful And I wish

689
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:19.920
I would have known that, because
I certainly have let my daughter not not

690
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.239
really tell me about her day before
too. So message for me too.

691
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.519
Hey, Griffin, we're out of
time already, but I want it.

692
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:29.039
So I want to say thank you
so very much for coming on the show,

693
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:30.679
letting me come into your home,
letting me hear you're using and being

694
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:35.280
moved by it, and the message
that you're up to what you're what you're

695
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.920
doing in like Griffin is so important. I'm so happy to get to share

696
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.880
you with my listeners. It's amazing
and thank you guys. So how if

697
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.280
people want to reach out to you, where did they? Where should they

698
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.280
go to learn about your work and
how to contact you? I've got a

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00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:51.440
website ww dot Griffinhalpy dot com.
Would you spell that for them? G

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R I F F I N H
O L T B y okay, awesome,

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00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:59.719
so amazing. I'm very inspired what
you're up to and I will continue

702
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:01.000
to live and work my own purpose
because of you. Thank you, Thank

703
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.039
you so much. And listeners,
if you missed last week's show, you

704
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.960
can always catch a recorded podcast.
We were on the air with doctor Arthur

705
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:13.119
Sia McCauley talking about his latest book, which is called The Soul for Soulful

706
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.400
Leader, Success with Authenticity, Integrity
and Empathy. Next week, we'll be

707
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:21.280
on the air with Batya Janager of
the Victor Franco Logotherapy Institute of Israel.

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00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.639
We'll be talking about just what that
interesting term means. And I was actually

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00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:27.519
employed to live our best life,
so you're there. Remember the work is

710
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:32.000
at least one third of our life, So let's work on purpose. We

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00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:37.119
hope you've enjoyed this week's program.
Be sure to tune in to Working on

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00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.880
Purpose, featuring your host Alis Cortes, each week on the Voice America Empowerment

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Channel. This week, find your
life's purpose at work