Tell Your Story: Anxiety and Depression in Teens

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me right next to me, and
we are doing this via Facebook live stream

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as well. Is Griffin Hopeye.
He's a nineteen year old singer songwriter based

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here in Dallas, Texas. He
is a voracious songwriter and rice and performs

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high energy blues rock. He plans
to continue and develop his singing career,

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will continue to spread his message through
speaking and his music that you are not

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alone. We'll be talking about his
early teen struggle with anxiety, depression and

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abandonment concerns, and what he's doing
in schools to share what he's learned as

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a powerful and relatable spokesperson on the
topic. Of course, I'm also going

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to ask him to sing we are
here Together in his home. And this

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is again, as I said via
Facebook Live as well, Griffin, welcome

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for the first time to working on
purpose. Thank you, thank you so

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much. I'm glad to be here. Isn't this fun? So I've known

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you for many, many, many
years, and I have been hosting this

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radio show for more than four years, and this is the first time you've

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been on it. So for our
listeners who don't know anything about you as

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I do, so you share a
little bit about your background. I know

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you were born in Russia and you
were adopted by of course the Hopey family

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here in Dallas. So first,
I think it probably makes sense to tell

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us the experience of what it was
like to be adopted and what that was

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like for you. Yeah, well, the adoption is like one of the

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biggest silver linings in the world ever, of all time, just in general,

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because there's a very interesting dichotomy.
So, like, I was born

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in Russia and my birth mother was
nineteen years old. She was from Ukraine,

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and in that part of the world
at that time, having a child

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out of wedlock was something worthy of
tossing out a family member on the street.

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So she hid her pregnancy from her
family and fled to Russia, and

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she gave birth to me on February
fourteenth in two thousand and stayed with me

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for two days roughly, and then
put me up for adoption in Lebertsky Baby

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Home, which is one of the
reasons that I wonder every day why I'm

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here. It's just such a coincidence
that I was adopted by such a beautiful

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family here in Texas. So eight
months later I was adopted, And it

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worked basically by my parents getting tapes
from different adoption agencies and looking at babies,

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and they saw me, and they
just immediately knew that I was the

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one. So okay, awesome.
Two things really quick on dates. Interesting

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that your mother had you at nineteen, your same age. Can you imagine

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having a child now you're sorry,
right? And secondly you were born in

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Valentine's Day? Yeah, oh my
god. Nope, it explains everything why

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you're so lovable. Thank you.
Okay, So now for those people,

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and it's interesting, I'd love to
hear there's people watching here on Facebook live

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stream. Maybe some of you have
adopted someone or maybe you yourself are adopted.

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So now we want to understand what
was the experience of being adopted that

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contributed to your depression You're abandonment.
Yeah, well, it's a lot of

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things that we deal with subconsciously and
that come out in our behavior and our

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interactions with other people without us really
understanding what the source is, why it's

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happening, why we feel the way
we do. I'm in a lot of

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my frustration with my abandonment had to
do with my behavior, so like I

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was acting out quite a bit and
basically around in high school. It We've

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had a lot of other factors in
it, but ultimately, over the years,

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just this idea that you know,
from the day I was born,

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I had two days and in those
two days, my birth mother decided on

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her personal family over me. And
that's something that I can't control in any

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way, shape or form. I've
never met her. I have a letter

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from her, and I know what
her name is it Tiakatina Glass. Oh

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my gosh, you stand. It's
so beautiful. I thank you. I've

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practiced it. But and I don't
know anything about my father. But that

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lack of knowing, it's not as
much about the feeling of abandonment. It's

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a lot about the lack of knowing
and not really being able to say I

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know exactly where I came from.
And that had an effect on me.

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And when I was depressed, that
was something that really pushed me over the

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edge. That you know, added
fuel to the fire. So say more

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about the imagine acting out? So
what is acting out me? What kind

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of self harm? You know?
Drinking and drugging. At the time of

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my life, I was and I
was thirteen, fourteen years old in high

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school at Saint Mark's School of Texas, and I over the course of six

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months, I had emptied every bottle
of liquor and my family's liquor cabinet.

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Wow, which is an impressive feet
but not a good thing to be proud

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of. And you know, I
would get home from school and I would

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just lay in bed. I wouldn't
do my homework. I wouldn't want to

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talk to anybody. I didn't want
to be a part of the world.

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I just wanted to feel better.
And I didn't feel like anybody else had

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that that answer for me, or
had that ability. And I knew that

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you have to feel better on your
own, but I didn't know how to

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get there, and so you know
it, eventually it ended up with me

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running away from home, which is
a crazy story. Yeah. Wow.

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So first two things really quick.
Depression is real, real, real deal.

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It's so so important that we talk
with you. Here are the listeners

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that you're you're hearing. This is
that if you feel anything like this,

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this is a real deal. It's
not something to be pooh pooed or pushed

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aside or oh it's not you know, it's not something that I should take

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for real or whatever you want to
say. It takes lives. Yeah,

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it takes so many lives. Yeah, yeah, so so too. Now,

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so here you are, you're what'd
you say, thirteen or fourteen years

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old? Fourteen years old? Okay? And so so now let's go for

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a little bit further into this deal. So then you get into eighth grade.

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What was going on for you in
the eighth grade? Okay? So

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in the eighth grade that actually happened
before everything else. I kind of jumped

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again, sorry y'all. Sor right. So in the eighth grade, I

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left the band that I put together
with a school that i'd worked at,

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well, I'd taken lessons at called
down Sounds, and I'd basically written all

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the songs for this band lyric wise, and worked on the course of progressions

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and spent so many hours up at
three in the morning when I shouldn't have

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been sitting there trying to write songs
because it's what I love to do.

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And I actually got pushed out to
the edge of that, and that triggered

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this change in my psyche because my
identity was connected to my band at school.

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So at Saint Mark's, some of
you might not know, it's very

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prestigious boys school, very high on
athletics and academics, and I was like

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the kid who you know, wore
skinny jeans to the football games and got

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made up fun of for that and
got called gay for that and stuff,

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which is the stupidest reason to pick
on anybody, but it is such a

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dumb reason. But basically I kicked
out of the band pretty much. I

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left and got kicked out almost simultaneously, and it was like I had lost

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another family that I'd identified with,
and so that really kicked off a summer

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of frustration. And we went on
vacation and I was acting a full and

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when I got home, basically a
week before or school started, a few

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days before school started, I had
one could some could say a suicide attempt,

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some could say just really hardcore suicidal
ideization. But I'd hung up a

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noose in my room and I was
too drunk to actually get myself into it,

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and I passed out and fell on
the floor and woke up the next

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day and my parents we're like,
Okay, yeah, we're gonna solve this

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right now. So I spent my
first week of high school in Children's Hospital

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in the psych ward. Okay,
so first I want to understand what was

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that like. So, because you
did tell me that that's a whole week

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that was your first week of high
school. Yeah, you're in the psych

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ward at Dallas Children's Hospital. What
was that like? Very interesting? So

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when you get into an environment like
that, there's a lot of different people

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with different issues, so you get
to learn. You get to one see

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wow, you know either you know, I've got it good in regards to

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my life and stuff, and I
don't know why I'm sad, you know,

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which causes another question because you see
other people who are in much worse

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situations. But that was kind of
the start of getting the vernacular and the

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understanding of the words and the descriptions
and the visualizations of what's going on in

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my brain, what's going on in
my emotions because up until this point in

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my life, I understood that your
heart was where your emotions come from,

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because I've seen that in Disney movies
and whatnot. But it's really your brain.

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It's chemicals in the brain, and
so on the physical aspect, I

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learned about, you know, the
science of it, and on the other

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aspect, I learned a lot of
coping mechanisms. So, you know,

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I got home and my parents were
really frustrated because I started drumming for two

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hours a day in our garage,
which is extremely loud, drawing, drumming,

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drumming with the full drum kit.
Yea, okay. And there's a

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lot of things that we do every
day that we don't understand actually puts us

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a little bit deeper down in the
hall when every day you should be building

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a rung to the ladder. And
so I kind of learned how to switch

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my energy from you know, thinking
myself downwards further and isolating myself to kind

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of growing out of it. And
I learned all of that, but I

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didn't use it. I knew what
it was, and I just refused to

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use it. I was being cocky. Why why did you refuse to use

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it? I just had this anger. I've been bullied for basically at a

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school i'd been in. I've lived
in Mexico over two years with my family

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and been bullied there, and I
had felt eventually by the time we left,

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i'd felt happy. I was like
finally in my place, and then

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we just got ripped out of it
again, which is understandable because we were

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there for a purpose, just to
learn how to speak Spanish. But that

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affected me too, and when when
I got back, I was a different

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kind of person who saw a different
part of the world and the different perspective,

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and so when I wasn't readily accepted
by people, I kind of put

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it in on myself, thinking,
you know, this is my fault,

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like something's wrong with me. And
also I wanted to I wanted to see

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society burn, to be honest,
Guns and Roses Appetype of Destruction album was

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the soundtrack of my life at that
period and the way that and I know

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this is music stuff, but I
love to communicate with music the anger that

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Zachu la rocha from rights against the
machine and actual rose has and Guns and

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Roses, even whether it be maybe
true or not, that's something that I

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wanted to actualize. Like I was
so angry because I didn't understand why people

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didn't want to just love me.
I didn't understand why I was being bullied,

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and I didn't have the answers for
that, even though I've been through

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you know that treatment, I thought
that I had the answers myself. Yeah,

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And so it goes to show that
even if somebody has been through treatment,

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it starts when you get out.
That's not the beginning of your life

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again, you know, it starts
when you get out of treatment and you

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actually I have to put it into
you know, into play and everyday life.

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Yeah, okay, So here's what
I'm finding really interesting about this.

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I have known you. Let's see, I met your I'm happy to say

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that I introduced my ex husband to
your dad years and years ago through my

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Christmas card, through my holiday Christmas. Seriously, that's how it happens.

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Takes so much credit for that Christmas
hoping that is going to go down in

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an industry from for my life.
And so I got to know you pretty

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pretty soon into that whole deal.
So here's what it's remarkable about listening to

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you tell the story. For sure. Now, mind you, I didn't

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know you super well. You've been
at my house many times, but I

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never knew you were going through all
this stuff. Nobody do it. Nobody

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really did. So that's that's part
of the point that we're trying to make

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care right. It's being able to
bring this out into the into the world

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and share it with people who can
actually help us. I know it's part

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of your message. But before we
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that you said when we were talking
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around your friends, and so how
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friends about this stuff, they're probably
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in that regard, so when you're
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kids going through something. Either by
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everyone around you is either lost a
parent or grandparents of some had lost in

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their family, has probably had their
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it's probably faced either a mental health
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and the people that they're around.
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is like shooting in the dark.
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you. So if you're a freshman
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don't know what's going on with your
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feel sad in the biggest crowds,
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most lonely in the biggest crowds.
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that every single person here doesn't want
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that regard, they can't really help. They don't have the knowledge and the

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wisdom to help, and so part
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hardest thing is a kid to do, and especially in today's day and age,

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because kids don't converse with adults as
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to leach out to an adult or
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somebody you trust, and sometimes that's
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could be part of the problem.
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the depression anxiety, because that's been
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the fact that people don't want to
say anything about it. People want to

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hush hush it up. And I'm
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My family did that. We did
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We didn't want anybody to know because
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happen. Right. They had the
idea like Griffin's gonna kill himself. He

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is no longer going to be around, and we're going to be that family

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that people always look at us and
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best thing to do is to reach
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that every single person within your vicinity
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help you. Because we're American people. We love each other, and you

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know, I have a friend belief
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good human being. And when I
did dat, eventually that runs true.

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That was the truth, and people
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great. I'm going to make a
comment on what you said here, but

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let's grab our first break your Griffin
and listeners here on Facebook. I'm Elise

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Cortez, your host there with Griffin
Hoppy, who was a nineteen year old

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singer songwriter here in Dallas, Texas. He plans to continue to develop his

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singing career while purposefully spreading his message
through speaking and his music that you are

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not alone, having learned to transform
himself through his own experiences with anxiety,

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depression, and abandonment. We are
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We've been talking a bit about his
background, what was like him to

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be adopted, going through the abandonment
of depression issues. After the break,

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we're going to talk more about what
he's doing to share his message and hear

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some of his music. Stay with
us, We'll be right back. Elise

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Cortez is a speaker and engagement and
development canalyst. She designs and delivers professional

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development, leadership and engagement workshops and
can bring her expertise to your organization.

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She will help ignite meaningful development within
your workforce that will increase employee engagement,

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performance and retention. To learn more
or to invite Elise to speak to your

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organization, please visit her at www
dot Elise Cortez dot com. She would

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welcome the opportunity to help get your
employees working on purpose. This is working

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on Purpose with Elise Cortez. To
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purpose, Back to working at Perfession. Thanks for tuning again this week.

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If you're just joining, if you're
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Griffinholtman Hope, who is an eighteen
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Texas. He is a voracious songwriter
and writes and performs his high energy

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blues rock. He plans to continue
and develop his singing career while continuing to

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spread his message through speaking and his
music that you are not alone to help

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people especially youth still in school,
get the help they need when confronting anxiety

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or depression. I'm your host,
Alice Cortez. All right, that works,

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Thank you so much. Vin.
This is a great thing about blanked

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by young people. Okay, So, what I wanted to say about what

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you were sharing before we were we
took our break there. So you're talking

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about not feeling like you could share
your message. You couldn't share what it

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was like to be to be feeling
the way that you were feeling with your

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friends. And one of the things
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days, it's actually worse because all
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should know a lot of people and
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it makes it worse. It amplifies
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issue, right, And so I
really appreciate your message about being able to

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not just talk with your friends who
aren't equipped to be able to handle something

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like this, but adults who can. So who did you start to talk

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with? Well that was kind of
an interesting road. So back to end

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of freshman year, and I was
telling you all the story about so all

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a freshman year, I was in
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grade. Like I said, I
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so the reason that I finally got
help was I eventually ran away from home

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for forty eight hours, and then
I did it again, and the second

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time my parents realized, we're never
going to see our kid again if he

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doesn't come home, like he's just
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So they hired a private investigator,
which didn't work, and I ended up

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just coming home on my own,
and I woke up the next day with

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the goons in my room. But
if you don't know what goons are,

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there just two big, bulky guys
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handcuffs and take kids who parents know
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center to treatment. And so they
had custody of me for like six hours

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and put me on a plane and
I flew up to a rehab treatment center

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that is actually the same one where
Johnny Manziel was there while I was there,

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which is crazy. And then I
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I was just being just a cocky
jerk at that point. I was just

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angry, and what finally worked was
me going to this place called blue Fire

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and angel Fire called or sorry blue
Fire in Utah or Idaho. Sorry it

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gets mixed up Idaho. And it
was a wilderness survival therapy thing for ten

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weeks and the therapist they're John warbits
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week. I had a tarp,
no tient, just a tarp. We

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had a ground pad. We had
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that's it. And then we had
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It strips you down to the basics. There's no social media exactly.

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There's no social media to you have
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not go crazy. You you know, you can't complain. They don't care

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if you're you know, like if
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They're running either. If you run
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die because you'll go through the desert. Yeah, basically, so you're stuck

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there and are we call him We
used to call him like the rock star

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therapist because he has long wavy hair
and they always stood on top of rocks

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like he was a god. But
John Warbitz he just didn't take anybs.

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He if you'd say something, he's
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that you're not lying about this,
and he would just go hard. And

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I hated sessions with him sometimes,
but he really made me get all the

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skeletons out of the closet, you
know. And from there on, that's

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kind of when the process started of
the healing process. So I went to

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another place in Utah called Catalysts for
ten months and worked with a therapist.

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There as like a frat house with
like twenty five guys, but just switch

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frat with therapy, and you just
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that's really where the change happened for
me. Wow, that is just amazing.

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Okay, So a couple of things
real quick for the people that are

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both watching here on Facebook Live and
who are listening to this this podcast now.

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So how did you run away and
escape? Before you go? I

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ran out my front door, You
ran out your bag, ran out my

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front door. I was Okay,
this is my dad's gonna kill me for

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being honest, but I don't care. I want you guys to know the

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real meat and the fear about it
is that like I'll have another episode or

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like something like that in my life
where I have a really bad time in

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one year or something like that.
That's not going to happen, because I

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have music and I know exactly what
I'm gonna do with the rest of my

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life. But at this time,
I was, you know, I was

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drinking a lot, and I thought
it would be a good idea to just

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put a towel on the door and
try to smoke cigarettes in my room with

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all of my windows open. And
I have a connecting room to Wayne and

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Gavin and my brothers, and that
was just an idiot idea. So I

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have my dad basically break down my
door because it was locked, and comes

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into my room starts streaming at me, which she rightfully, so like,

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what the hell was I doing?
I was fourteen years old, and I

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had already packed a bag up by
the door, and I just waited it

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out, waited for them to go
to sleep, and I just grabbed it

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and debolted and just went straight to
a friend's house. Yeah, okay.

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negative acidic situation and it was caused by

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me, and I didn't know really
what to do, and so the smartest

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thing for me was to get to
a place where I could escape all the

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time, which for me was alcohol. And so I wanted to be in

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a place where I wouldn't have anybody
holding me back from at that point the

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solution to my pain. And so
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it had been about a year and
to me, in my mind, it

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felt like my parents have already proven
that they can't help me. But it

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was because I hadn't said anything.
I hadn't told them anything. The only

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thing that they'd done to help me
because I wouldn't say anything and let them

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help me, was send me away
to places. And that created a very

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angry discord between me and my family
that that I used to my advantage at

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that time. Yeah, okay,
so you know, I have a sixteen

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year old daughter and I you know, thank goodness we're in we're in a

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pretty good place. But what I
do recognize, so it's just hard to

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grow up in this world. It's
just really hardly. And so for those

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of you who are listening to this, whether you are yourself, somebody that's

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gone through life and it's been hard
for you, maybe it's hard for you

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this very moment, or you have
a child and it's hard for them.

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I hope that what you're getting out
of this conversation is the presence of just

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the rawness of all this and how
intense all this is, and for you

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not knowing to where to put all
this stuff? Where do I take this

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stuff? It's like I wrote a
short story for school about it that was

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part fantasy, part reel. But
I don't remember anything from those four days

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really. I remember using my personal
by the way parents, This might sound

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like a side note, but any
app that contracts your children you, they

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can track you, so if you
ever lose them and they run away from

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you, then they can use that
to find out where you're looking for them

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and nowhere to be, which is
what I did. And the person that

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I was at that time, I
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any conversations or interactions I would have
would end in anger and frustration and yelling.

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ball of frustration that just wanted to
be away from any responsibility anyone who cared,

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because I had a personal driven like
nailed in belief that nobody can help

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me. It's not worth working with
anybody. Nobody can help me. And

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so you know, it became it
became a I put four days became a

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year's worth of work. Okay,
so couple of things. This is amazing.

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So one of the things that I
say when I'm out speaking and in

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my programs is we need to embrace
adversity because it helps us become who we

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are meant to become. In looking
at you, young, I wouldn't change

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freaking right. I'm nineteen years old. You are head's neck and shoulders ahead

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of so many kids. I please, I'm not saying that I want you

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guys to go through this, please, That's not what I'm saying. But

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what you've done, the work that
you've done to embrace this stuff and fold

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it into your person to become who
you are today is awesome thing. And

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you're welcome. And the fact that
you're out now, and the reason I

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want to have you on my show
is this is a show about working on

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purpose. You are completely working on
purpose. You are out now evangelizing your

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story and sharing very very courageously and
vulnerably what you've been through in your music

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and in you're speaking to help others. So that they can get through what

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you went through, right, And
I just think that is so great.

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And so your message is a lot
about asking for help and not walking alone.

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Yea, So tell us more a
little bit, a little bit more

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context about that, and then I
want you to sing a song. Okay,

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okay, Well, basically, the
best thing you can do if you're

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depressed or anxious, or if you're
in high school or in college, is

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you just need one person to know, like, you just need one person

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because you know a lot of people
in that position they don't have anybody make

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decisions that they cannot regret because they're
not around anymore. And suicide's a real

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problem. And if you have one
person who knows that either you are suicidal

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in a way or are completely like
throwing everything to the wind, depressed or

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in any way shape or form mentally
unwell, that one person can kind of

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keep an eye on you, even
if you feel like you have to go

409
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through it alone, which you shouldn't
have to. Even if you feel like

410
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you can't talk to anyone or tell
them what's going on, you need to

411
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have somebody who knows that there is
something going on, who can you know,

412
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say, wow, I haven't seen
them in like two days. That's

413
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a problem, you know what I
mean, Because at the end of the

414
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day, everyone's gonna have a moment
like what I had. It's going to

415
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be different. It's going to be
maybe, you know, somebody loses their

416
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daughter in a car accident because they're
drunk or something like that. That creates

417
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:15.240
shame and anger within yourself right and
personally, I believe I wouldn't be that

418
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when I was person I am today
if I hadn't faced it alone for so

419
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long, because it doesn't just teach
you how to be a better person,

420
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but it teaches you more about yourself. And so in that regard, if

421
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.920
there's nobody to reach out to,
you're gonna be streaming in silence and nobody's

422
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.880
gonna hear you. And so you're
gonna have to take that leap of faith

423
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:40.160
to reach out to somebody who might
not be the ideal person, but there

424
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has to be one person. It's
you can't go through that alone. And

425
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I mean, if I had gone
through it completely alone and I didn't have

426
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.039
my parents to help me, I
probably would be dead right now. Well.

427
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And so to just emphasize that point, and I want to say more

428
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about it when after you seeing but
we are social beings. We were we

429
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were we survived because you know we
we lived in caves together. If you're

430
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outside the cave, you're in really
big trouble. Oh yeah, right.

431
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So the fact that what you're saying
to ask for help and ask an adult

432
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for help is really really important.
And what I'll also say just quickly is

433
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that what we know from the resilience
studies is that if you're if you're going

434
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through anything in life, if you
have one adult, one adult who really

435
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believes in you and sees you for
the special person that you are, it

436
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.720
can make the world. Oh my
god, it could change it all.

437
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.640
And you know, every nobody wants
to be like, feel like they're the

438
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.480
weak link, right, get a
friend group if you're the one who's like

439
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.720
depressed or whatever. That's oftentimes something
that I've heard people say, like,

440
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.440
I don't want to be the weak
link. But it's funny because I've also

441
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:48.160
seen that person in groups be the
person who brings together people because something like

442
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:53.680
sadness and emotions is so that everybody
understands, and if you don't understand that,

443
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.480
then you're not human. That's right, you know, so hypothetically,

444
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:00.519
every single person this work would help
another person with it. Yeah, And

445
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.640
so what you're saying and when I'm
out speaking and working with men and women

446
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.359
is there's so many of us that
and we starts very early in life.

447
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.160
So, like you're talking about,
the conditioning to shut off our emotions,

448
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:15.119
which is what makes us, what
makes us human beings and gives us access

449
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:19.599
to the full compliment of humanity,
is catastrophe. It's just it's why would

450
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.039
you cut off half of your being
or more than half of your being by

451
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.279
showing up your emotions? So amazing
lesson from a young man. Now,

452
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.400
we're at a place where I need
to take a quick break and I don't

453
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.599
want to rush your song, So
listeners, if you will hang us for

454
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.400
just one quick second, we're going
to go for our next short break.

455
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I'm at least Cortez, your host, went on the air with Griffin Holpeby,

456
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.559
who is a nineteen year old singer
and songwriter based here in Dallas.

457
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He plans to continue to develop his
singing career while purposely spreading his message through

458
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.559
speaking and news music that you are
not alone. Having learned and transformed himself

459
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.400
through his own experiences with anxiety,
depression, and abandonment. We're together in

460
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.319
his Dallas home for this conversation.
We'll be right back, and he's going

461
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.480
to sing when we come back.
Stay with us, We'll be right back.

462
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.039
Elise Cortez is a speaker and engagement
and development catalyst. She designs and

463
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:17.640
delivers professional development, leadership and engagement
workshops and can bring her expertise to your

464
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:22.119
organization. She will help ignite meaningful
development within your workforce that will increase employee

465
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.599
engagement, performance and retention. To
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466
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:33.000
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467
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:42.279
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an email to Elise ali Se at
Elise Cortez dot com. Now back to

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00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:01.240
working on purpose with us, and
welcome back to working on purpose. If

471
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.839
you're just tuning in. My guest
is Griffin Holtby, who was a nineteen

472
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.880
year old singer and songwriter based here
in Dallas, Texas. He is a

473
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.759
voracious songwriter and writes and performs high
energy blues rock. He plans to continue

474
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.319
to develop his singing career, will
continue to spread his message through speaking and

475
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.880
his music that you are not alone
to help people, especially you still in

476
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.440
school, get the help they need
with confronting anxiety or depression. I'm your

477
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:27.559
host, Alice Cortez. So for
this next part here, Griffin, as

478
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.079
you cue up your song here at
first, before you play it, I

479
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.480
want you to tell us why did
you write the song? Well, there

480
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.640
are two songs. Okay, after
coming home from treatment, I didn't do

481
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.920
music for a while. I didn't
didn't in different ways, but that's a

482
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.640
long different story. But listening back
to the songs that i'd put out and

483
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.240
written before I went to treatment,
I really realized, like, wow,

484
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.759
I was really writing about what I
was doing through and I didn't even know

485
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:58.279
it. But it's I mean,
I think it speaks for itself. It's

486
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:05.240
it's very much about specific events with
a girl, but the overall message is

487
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.680
it's about being alone and learning to
kind of walk on your own two feet

488
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.920
and realizing that you know, that's
not what we're made for, like we

489
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.880
said, for social human beings,
and so you know, the feeling of

490
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:23.720
loneliness that anyone feels. It's like
if you drive on the highway and you're

491
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:28.319
drive in every single the person that's
driving in the car by themselves probably feels

492
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.559
the same way because they just haven't
found their people yet. And so yeah,

493
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.000
it just kind of acknowledges the fact
that it's not an easy fat feet

494
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.960
So I got it all right.
So this song is called walk on Alone.

495
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:58.000
Yeah, I remember the nuts that
we used to fight, sen your

496
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:05.079
head. Didn't have to see you
cry, shaming your eyes. First of

497
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:12.960
love died for me. I remember
the makeup running down your face telling me

498
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:19.119
that there's someone else and that I've
been replaced. It's all show. I

499
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:27.559
was bought. I was so fear
if we day are where you are my

500
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:35.559
ski, no matter how much I
hate you and me, it's so hard

501
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:42.639
to let you go and you're right
next to me. It's not easy easy.

502
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:52.039
And the loost two walk alone,
lookst two walk alone? Whoa whoa

503
00:34:53.119 --> 00:35:05.159
whoa. Oh Yeah. Sometimes to
see you crying in your bed every night

504
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.719
for sing it, I was always
there to hold you. So time it's

505
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:16.480
a cold, I was bought.
I was so with you. I've got

506
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:21.119
my six string lying on the flooring
perfect tune writing one of the songs.

507
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:28.159
It always reminded me of you.
Oh this is goodbye. You always side

508
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:37.480
and me every day. I where
you want, my steet, no matter

509
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:44.159
how much I hate you and me. It's so hard to let you go,

510
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:49.960
and you're right next to me.
It's not as easy. And it

511
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:59.079
looks to walk alone. It looks
to walk alone. Gas, It looks

512
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:09.480
to walk alone. Oh loves to
walk alone. Yeah, it looks to

513
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:22.440
walk alo because we all walk alo. Oh my gosh, it brings me

514
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.159
to tears. It's so beautifulgram and
so beautiful. Wow, Oh my gosh.

515
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:34.000
That's just talent and heart and passion
all together in one package. Oh

516
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.199
okay, So I wish that we
could. I'd love it. Those of

517
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you that are actually joining us to
be a Facebook lives through me. If

518
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:43.199
you have any comments or reactions to
what he just played, please just post

519
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.920
them and we'll read them as we
go. So next, then, Griffin,

520
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.880
I know you've been playing music for
years, developing this amazing talent.

521
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:55.280
Now we've we've just winkissed it.
Are you still planning on becoming a professional

522
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.280
rock star? Oh? Yeah,
totally I'm not going to do Okay,

523
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.719
So here's the deal. I'm a
pa. I still going to see this

524
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.960
and go what you did that?
Okay? So last year I was applying

525
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:08.800
to colleges at school and I came
up. I came up with a friend

526
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.559
of mine. I got next to
uh. We pulled up on the street

527
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.320
next to this guy and he was
in front of his car and he has

528
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.800
two daughters in the back, I
guess, or a daughter and her friend,

529
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.679
and there in the back like jamming
out to like some pop song,

530
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.440
something I would never listen to,
like jamming out so hard. The car

531
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.199
was moving, and these girls are
like six and seven or something, and

532
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:31.320
he's just like you could see the
whites of his knuckles on the steering wheels,

533
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:37.480
just like losing his mind. And
I realized kind of in that moment

534
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:43.920
that if I was in that position
working a job, because in junior year,

535
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:45.519
I wasn't I wanted to be like
a writer or something. I'd kind

536
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:50.239
of given up on music just because
I felt like it kind of caused me

537
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.880
some of the pain that I'd been
through. I realized that if I was

538
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thirty five years old and I wasn't
standing on a stage in front of a

539
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.840
stadium full of people, and I
was sitting in the give a cool Instead,

540
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.079
I'd probably go home, open a
gun cabinet and kill myself. Like

541
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and that's a crazy thing to say, right, I understand that it's a

542
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.039
crazy thing to say. But the
anger and shame I would have toward myself

543
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.320
for not living the part the life
that I was meant to live that it

544
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:21.039
was so clearly by God or anything
whoever you believe in, Like I don't

545
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.039
know why, but I was put
on the earth right songs, ye and

546
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:29.840
thank you. And so I even
though birth to school of music, I've

547
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:30.840
been there, and I really I
was like, that's not that's not the

548
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.280
move. I'm gonna get there and
I'm gonna get distracted by people and I'm

549
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:39.599
not gonna like know what to do. I sabotaged every single college entrance I

550
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:44.280
had and tell my parents did it
was like a mess up with the computer,

551
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.039
but I sabotaged it. And so
sometimes you have to kill something to

552
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:57.000
let something else grow. And so
I landlocked myself in Dallas, and I'm

553
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.840
making it so that there's no way
that I can't not do music. You

554
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.480
know what, I'm saying. I
mean, I work all the jobs to

555
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.880
make money on the side and stuff, but every single day I spend in

556
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.760
this studio doing music, working with
bands, putting someone together, and polishing

557
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:12.679
your craft. The ones who make
it are the ones who never stop trying.

558
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.400
And I'm never going to stop trying
no matter where it gets me.

559
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.599
Oh, let me just quickly say
something real quick. So listeners, if

560
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.880
you've been listening to the show for
any period of time, you know that

561
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.760
what I stand for yourself and you
discover and grow your purpose. It is

562
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:28.320
worth looking for, it's worth working
at, and it takes some real efforts

563
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.119
and real work to do this.
It doesn't just happen. Oh look,

564
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.599
you know it's all rainbows and butterflies. Oh it's all great. It takes

565
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.000
something to do that, and I
really want to applaud you for sticking with

566
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.079
it and showing us what it means
to be able to really stand in your

567
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:44.960
place of purpose and not let it
go. Recognize it. It's a precious

568
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.679
thing, but you can't let go. And also, I would like to

569
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:52.559
say on that is sometimes it's scarier. It's like the hot Okay, you

570
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.760
know how they say take the what's
the way it take the path of least

571
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.719
resistance. Sometimes your path is a
pastive molth resistance. And sometimes what you

572
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.760
do and who you are can scare
you into not wanting to be that anymore.

573
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.519
And sometimes people will kick you down
while you're on the ground. And

574
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.719
the fact that you believe in what
you do, that alone will give anyone

575
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:19.239
the power to not stop and make
it be successful in whatever they do.

576
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:21.880
It has nothing to do with how
smart you are, where you went to

577
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.760
whether or not you went to like
MT and graduate school, like, it

578
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.000
doesn't matter. What matters is is
there a fire burning in your heart and

579
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.760
you care and was it? Like? Are you going to get there?

580
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.840
What are you going to do about
it? And I wouldn't really understand that

581
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.559
unless I've gone through what I had
well. And also to your point to

582
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.559
your message, you're going to need
help to get that. Oh you're gonna

583
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.679
need to keep asking for help all
the way along and getting good at asking

584
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.800
for help. By the way,
ladies and gentlemen, yours truly has had

585
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.199
to learn that too. So it's
not a weak thing to do, not

586
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:53.559
at all, not at all.
In fact, I want to talk a

587
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.960
little bit about you speaking in school, So I want to understand where this

588
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.199
whole idea came from to be on
speaking in schools. Okay, so what's

589
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:06.320
what's the name the organization that you
were speaking through. It was Also Nation.

590
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:10.800
Yeah, So basically there was this
tour thing that I went on called

591
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.440
also Nation, where they went to
a bunch of different schools and set up

592
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.320
a giant concert. Basically, if
you go to school, you show up

593
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:20.960
and they're like, okay, you
got an assembly in the gym. It's

594
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.880
like sweet, I got out of
math class. And then you show up

595
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.639
and they show up and they'd be
like a whole light fixture and like a

596
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.519
screen and honestly it was beautifully put
together. And we would come out and

597
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.039
play songs, play great shows,
and these kids would be doing the wave

598
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.000
and then we'd stop and we'd be
like, Okay, here's bullying. This

599
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.280
is what we're going to talk about
today. And so like they're kind of

600
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:45.079
cornered into like whoa, we're paying
attention. We can't just like sit back

601
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:46.960
and watch you like this like you're
an adult. You know who's who don't

602
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.679
want to talk to. We have
to be engaged and the power of bringing

603
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:58.320
music and social connection and social speaking
and talking about mental health issues. I've

604
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.119
been through so many different mental health
like meetings and like seminars and whatnot.

605
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.519
Nothing has been not powerful. We
had kids who are six or seven years

606
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:10.000
old on the ground crying because something
that somebody said is exactly what they're going

607
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.920
through. We had people coming up
to us, kids coming up just saying,

608
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.599
I've never told anybody this, but
you know, like there's these things

609
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:22.079
happening at home that you know are
affecting my life. And I would never

610
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.880
have told anybody unless you came to
school today. And so that really inspired

611
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me. I was just like,
Wow, being a musician isn't just being

612
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a guy who sings. It's also
being icons not the word like a symbol

613
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for something. You have to have
a message, which I did have you

614
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Yeah, that's the word. That's
the word spokesperson for something, yea,

615
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through your music and through your life. And so I'm going to try to,

616
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you know, find a way to
reinvent that kind of idea somewhere in

617
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:59.840
a much less you know, insane
way where it could be more intimate,

618
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whether it's you know, going into
certain specific classrooms or classes in colleges or

619
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:10.239
high schools, my high schools and
those schools preferably, and just around Dallas

620
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.400
and try to spread my message personally
and talk about the things that I've learned,

621
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.480
and you know, hopefully encourage some
kids that are going through something to

622
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.440
walk into a counselor's office, grab
a little piece of candy out of the

623
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:23.960
bowl and sit there and wait for
them to be ready and talk to them

624
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.320
and say like And also I think
one thing I want to help people understand

625
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.239
is like, if you guys,
talk to a counselor they're not going to

626
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.280
keep you got of school. People
think if I go tell them the truth

627
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.760
that I was part of the group
that got caught doing this in the bathroom,

628
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.599
like or whatever. For if I
was part of the kids who pully

629
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:44.400
this kid until they came to the
teacher and it was a problem but I

630
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.079
didn't speak up, or if I'm
gonna get in trouble, It's not like

631
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:50.159
that. The thing that there's people
are there for is to help you.

632
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.119
And nobody, no adult wants to
see a child in pain, right,

633
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:59.519
No, it don't at all like
anybody with the right mind wants to help

634
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:01.880
because an adult in pain is different
than a child in pain. An adult

635
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is somebody who would have their stuff
together, but children, they don't have

636
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.039
that knowledge. And so I hope
that, you know, within the next

637
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.519
year, I can kind of get
some headway and going into schools talking to

638
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:17.559
people, or just starting in connections
at schools and talk to counselors and maybe

639
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:21.039
we'll do it through a video or
something. I don't know yet, but

640
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okay, so a couple of things. So I don't know if anybody who

641
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.960
gets up in the morning goes,
you know, I just kind of want

642
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.159
to, you know, just be
under a rock. I don't want I

643
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.800
don't want anybody to notice that I'm
alive, and I don't want to make

644
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:34.760
any kind of a difference site,
you know, I kind of hope my

645
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.599
life just kind of passes by.
Everybody that I know of wants to make

646
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:42.039
a difference, wants to matter in
some way. You have an opportunity,

647
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.960
Griffin, to make an enormous difs
in the lives of thousands and maybe millions

648
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.199
of people. Thank you so much, millions of people, thank you.

649
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.280
And and I could tell you the
reason I do the work that I do

650
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.119
is because I know a lot of
people are walking through life debt and they

651
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.639
don't even know it now. I
think it's a place where they're in anxiety

652
00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:00.800
and depression. They need your message. And so so for you, I

653
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.079
mean, will you consider going even
outside of Dallas to Oh yeah, and

654
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.719
I would let your music Okay,
I'm just kidding, Okay, but I

655
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.400
would. I My goal in life
is, you know, in a few

656
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.880
years, I want to be touring
the country and okay, I want to

657
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:16.960
maybe even you know, blend my
tours together into something where I can play

658
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:23.639
you know, let's say four or
five states and spend two months on tour

659
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:29.159
instead of like two weeks, and
spend a week in every state, going

660
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:34.639
to the biggest high schools in that
state or something like that, and just

661
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.199
spread the message that way while I'm
performing at venues. Okay, I think

662
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.840
that is a fantastic plan and strategy. So listeners around the world, around

663
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.440
the United States, and here's somebody
who actually can bring a powerful message,

664
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.800
who has literally been there, done
that, got the mess, got the

665
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.639
T shirt and the bloody knows and
everything else with it. Who can bring

666
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.159
a message that that kids need to
hear. So just keep that in mind

667
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.960
as you're considering how to how to
interact with this young man. We're almost

668
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.639
time here, but two things really
quick. What do you think parents need

669
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.199
to understand about what to look for, notice or support their team when they're

670
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.039
maybe experiencing sadness depression? What are
they what could they notice? If you

671
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.840
get into the car and you ask
your kid, how is your day at

672
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:16.639
school today? And they say good, stop the car and turn around and

673
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.400
say, Okay, I'm gonna stay
here until you tell me what happens today.

674
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.320
You know what I'm saying, like, push for answers. Don't just

675
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.880
let kids get away with telling you
nothing, because that is the worst thing

676
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.599
you could do, Like, you
don't want to be uninformed. If it

677
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:35.000
was had to do with kids safety
physical personal safety of like life or death

678
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.000
in that regard, parents would be
all over that. They'd be like,

679
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.840
tell me what's going on right?
Right? But since it's an emotional social

680
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:47.440
interaction kind of issue bullying and anxiety
and social depression and whatnot, it goes

681
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:51.639
unnoticed because you can get into a
habit of being like, how is your

682
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.119
day at school today? Good?
And I get to the kids tired or

683
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.400
whatever. But then at the dinner
table, push for it, understand what's

684
00:46:55.400 --> 00:47:00.119
going on because there's so many people
who are being bullied online, who are

685
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:05.320
being bullied in school, who are
having things going on at home. We're

686
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.000
having things going on, even having
teachers being bullying them. You know what

687
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:14.719
I'm saying that don't say anything because
they're afraid and nobody pushes them. Okay,

688
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.320
that isn't That's so powerful And I
wish I would have known that because

689
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.519
I've certainly have let my daughter not
really tell me about her day before too.

690
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.559
So message for me too. Thank
you Griffin. We're out of time

691
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.920
already, but I want to so
I want to say thank you so very

692
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.360
much for coming on the show,
letting me come into your home, letting

693
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.280
me hear your using and being just
moved by it and the message that you're

694
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.840
up to what you're what you're doing
in like Griffin is so important. I'm

695
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:39.039
so happy to get to share you
with my listeners. It's amazing and thank

696
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:43.360
you guys. So how if people
want to reach out to you? Where

697
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.000
did they? Where should they go
to learn about your work and how to

698
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:50.400
contact you? I've got a website
ww dot Griffinholp dot com which you spell

699
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:54.000
that for them gri I F F
I N H O L TB y okay,

700
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.119
awesome, so amazing. I'm very
inspired where what you're up to and

701
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.079
I will continue to live work my
own purpose because of you. Thank you

702
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:05.119
so much, and listeners, if
you miss last week's show, you can

703
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.800
always catch a recorded podcast. We
were on the air with doctor Arthur Siah

704
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:13.440
McCauley talking about his latest book,
which is called The Soul for Soulful Leader,

705
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.559
Success with Authenticity, Integrity and Empathy. Next week we'll be on the

706
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:21.599
air with Batya Yanager of the Victor
Frankel LOGOTHERPY Institute of Israel. We'll be

707
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.159
talking about just what that interesting term
means. And I was actually employed to

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00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.840
live our best life, so you
there, Remember the work is at least

709
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:32.480
one third of our life, so
let's work on purpose. We hope you've

710
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:37.559
enjoyed this week's program. Be sure
to tune in to Working on Purpose,

711
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:43.280
featuring your host Alice Cortez, each
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This week, find your life's purpose
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