June 10, 2020

Stoke Your Entrepreneurial Finesse with Patrick Bet-David

Stoke Your Entrepreneurial Finesse with Patrick Bet-David

Whether you’re an established business owner or just starting out on the journey, Patrick Bet-David has some pearls of advice he’s learned as a very successful entrepreneur. An immigrant from Iran, he enthusiastically embraces the capitalistic...

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Whether you’re an established business owner or just starting out on the journey, Patrick Bet-David has some pearls of advice he’s learned as a very successful entrepreneur. An immigrant from Iran, he enthusiastically embraces the capitalistic opportunity available in America to anyone willing to work to realize their dreams. His own experience of founding a financial services marketing company at age 29 with 66 agents in one office to growing it to more than 15,000 agents with 120 offices in 49 states and Puerto Rico in just over 10 years, along with a ferocious appetite for reading and learning from others has proven fertile ground to cultivate his astute perspective on business.

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
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People ache for meaning and purpose at
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They crave being part of an organization that

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
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Working on purpose. Now Here is
your host, Doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome

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back to the Working on Purpose Program. Thanks for tuning in again this week.

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I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes, joining you live from Dallas,

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Texas, which is home base for
me. If you've been tuning in for

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a while, then you know this
program as a thought leadership series that enlightens

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it inspires us with insights from distinguished
business leaders and subject matter experts. Our

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conversations are designed to make you think, inspire to ever, retire for cultivating

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your best, and take an informed
approach towards leadership and business. Our guest

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today is Patrick Bett David, a
prolific content creator, producer, author and

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CEO. Of both PHP Agency and
Value Tainment Media. He's the author of

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this soon to be released book called
Your Next Five Moves, Think Clear,

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Solve, Faster, Scale bigger,
and achieve your vision as an entrepreneur.

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We'll be talking about his book and
a few of the key concepts that caught

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my attention that I think will fundamentally
alter your course for the better. If

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only you'll lean in and listen generously. You do it today from Dallas,

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Texas. Patrick, welcome to Working
on Purpose. It's good to be on

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at these so great to share with
my listeners. I can't wait. It's

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my turn to share you You ready, Yes, let's go. Okay,

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Well, there is so much that
goes into this being of Patrick, bet

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David, and of course you know
I want of your four million fans,

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So I want to open the conversation
if we can, Patrick, by just

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presence some of the things that I
really appreciated about you, and those include

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an immigrant who makes America great,
a trailblazing entrepreneur, business leader, a

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chief educator of business, someone who
has a well earned the right to call

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himself and make his father proud that
you have the name that David. Those

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are just a few of the things
that I want to talk about the game.

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Yes, let's go. Okay,
Well, let's start with your heritage

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and just how it is you came
to the United States. It's such an

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amazing story. I wish I had
more time for you to tell all the

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details. But talk to us about
what it was like to leave your country

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of Tahan, Iran and just literally
in the nick of time coming here,

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getting settled, going to the army, your early career as in financial services.

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So I was obviously born and raised
in Iran. I lived there ten

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years. And one of the things
about us in Iran is we would dream

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about one day come in America,
to the point where every time somebody got

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their green card, or somebody was
going to Austria to come to us,

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or somebody was going to Spain,
France or Germany to come to us,

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we would put a big party for
them and everybody would go there, and

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you are happy for them, but
secretly envious because you can't wait to come

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over here. And so while I
was living there, I was going to

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school. Six weeks after Homeni died, my parents just got sick of it.

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They were worried because they thought they
were not going to let me leave

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the country and I'd be forced to
serve the military. They said we have

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to leave, so we eventually escaped. We went to Germany. I lived

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at a refugee camp in Germany for
nearly eighteen nineteen months, and we came

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over here to the States November twenty
eight, nineteen ninety. When I went

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to the airport, I was looking
for Rocky. I couldn't find Sylvester Stallone.

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I wanted to know where he was. I thought all the Hollywood celebrities

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would be ligned up when we arrived
at John F. Kennedy Airport, but

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that was not the case. Eventually
ended up in Glendelle, California. Lived

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there for a few years, and
right after high school, I joined the

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Army Hunter first Airborne Division Aerosault.
I got out of the military. My

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plans were to be a bodybuilder,
almost like a Middle Eastern Arnold wind Mist

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Olympia, going to Hollywood. Mary
Kennedy eventually become a governor. But I

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met a woman in Venice Beach who
her and I started dating, and she

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was working on Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
at the time, and she would always

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pick me up in a different car, and I said, what do you

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do for a living. She says, I work at Morgan Stanley. I

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said, how do you work over
there? She says, well, I

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want to UCLA. I said,
I want to work at Morgan Stanley.

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She said they don't hire people without
a four year degree. I said,

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I'm not going to college. So
eventually, long story short, I took

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my resume at the time, which
was quite impressive. It had Burger King

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on it, Bob's Big Boy,
Haggin Dawes, the US Army, and

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Bally Total Fitness without a four year
degree or an associate's degree. And at

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that time we used to fax resumes. I ended up faxing my resume to

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one hundred different offices and branches where
it was Morgan, Merrill, Schwab,

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Goldman, Smith, Parney, everybody. And my cover letter had my best

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joke at the time, and at
the bottom of the joke it said,

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if you're a laughing, this is
exactly how my clients are going to feel

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when they do business with me.
They're going to love me. If you

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want somebody like me on your team, give me a call. And once

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I faxed the resume and the cover
letter, I got thirty callbacks. Fifteen

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of them said very creative, but
you're not qualified. The other fifteen gave

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me interview offers, went to the
interview and eventually three of them gave me

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a job offer at Morgan Stanley Dean
Witter. I took Morgan Glendale a day

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before nine to eleven, which was
a Monday, was my first day,

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got my series seven sixty six,
twenty six life and help all the licenses,

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and then eventually I left them,
went to trans America, and then

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October of one and I started my
own insurance agency and grew that from sixty

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six agents to now over fifteen thousand
agents nationwide and somewhere along the line by

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the team and got started. Well
yeah, okay, so I want to

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talk about this is just so great, Patrick. Anybody listening to this has

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got to be leaning in going,
oh my gosh, how do I get

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more of that? Well, your
book and this conversation is going to give

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them more of that. But I
don't want to skip over the fact that

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you are an entrepreneur. You came
to the United States as you did,

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you just shared that and you started
this company when you were twenty nine years

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old. Patrick that's crazy, it's
amazing, and that you convinced those sixty

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six agents to join you then and
what you're doing today. So for the

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rest of you didn't catch that.
So it started. Then, has sixty

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six agents start? Now you have
thirteen thousand agents with one hundred and twenty

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offices in forty nine states, in
Puerto Rico, and your vision is to

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be the largest field marketing organization with
a global force of five hundred thousand agents

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by twenty thirty nine. So paint
the picture for us. Why does this

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vision so compel you? So the
number you took from the website, thirteen

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hundred and twenty offices, that was
a few months back. We're at fifteen

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thousands. Now fifteen thousand with one
hundred and thirty plus, which means I

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need to get on my website person
to number. Yeah, I keep up,

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Patrick. You know, you know, the thing for me was very

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simple. I just have no desire
to do anything that's small. And here's

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why, here's why. Let me
explain it, so this makes sense to

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everybody. When we came to the
States, I was a guy who you

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know, when I turned eighteen,
I went to the army. All I

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wanted to do was party. That's
all I did. I was just a

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party guy. I always wanted to
go out have a good time, you

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know, five days a week you'd
find me at a nightclub or at a

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bar. And then eventually my dad
ended up having a heart attack. I

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went to UCLA Medical Center to check
on this guy and my dad and I

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are best friends at this point.
And when I was at the hospital,

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I was kicked out because I made
a mess. I was upset because they

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were not taking care of him,
and I didn't like the food they brought

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him. Finally, the lady calls
the security. They come upstairs to kick

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me on. They say, listen, who are you to tell us what

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to do? This is a government
hospital. You know you're not paying for

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this. Taxpayers are paying for this. And I got kicked out, so

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I go downstairs. I'm sitting in
my two thousand and two fourth focus.

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I'm six four six' five.
I barely fit in this sport focus.

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But I'm sitting in my fourth focus
and I'm crying like a little baby,

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and I'm asking myself how much longer
is this going to be continuing? And

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then that same year, I went
to a Christmas party with my dad and

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a lot of our relatives were kind
of looking down at my family. Well

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you know what, you know,
Patrick and the bed David family, and

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my dad was kind of working at
a ninety nine cent store. And I've

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never liked people to feel bad or
feel sorry for the family. I've never

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been a fan of that. I
don't want to anybody think we're victims or

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anything. So when the family started
kind of making fun of my dad and

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our family at the Christmas party,
I said, listen, I'm sorry.

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You don't talk about our family this
way and that all. We're just joking,

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We're kidding. I said, yeah, you don't joke with me being

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around, nor do you joke about
my dad, who did so much for

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you guys. Patrick, it's just
a joke. It's Christmas. I said,

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no, we're leaving. My Dad's
like, we're not leaving. I

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said, Dad, we're leaving.
We're not here to be a laughing stock

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for anybody. So we left.
We got in the car for thirty minutes.

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On the way back, I told
my dad, I said, the

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world is going to know our last
name now. At this point, I'm

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twenty six years old. The only
people that know who I am is local

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community of financial advisors because I have
a reputation in LA at the time.

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But nothing more, nothing less.
I said, watch what's going to happen.

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Sat the family down. I said, We're going to go out there

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and do something where everybody is going
to know your last name, Pops.

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They're gonna know what David last name
is and how many sacrifices you made.

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Long story short, long story short. That happens once I get into the

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financial industry and we start PHP.
I just told myself, if we're going

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to do something, we're not going
to do something small. If I wanted

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to do something small, a't stay
where I was at. We're only doing

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it to do something that's never been
numb before. And that number was five

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hundred thousand licensed agents by twenty twenty
nine. And for somebody like me who

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came to America with the dream of
one day, you know, America is

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all about the dream, right you
leave you around, you come to America

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hoping to live that American dream.
And to live that American dream, it

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starts through entrepreneurship or entrepreneurship, and
I chose to go the entrepreneur route first.

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And then I became the entrepreneur.
And then when I got up on

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stage and I said we're gonna have
a half of the licensed agents in front

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of sixty six people, they thought
I was nuts, but enough of them

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believed in us, and we've made
some progress from there to where we are

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today. Progress to be celebrated,
and you know, I rever it,

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which is why one of the main
reasons I wanted to have you on the

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show and share you Patrick. Okay, So the next thing I want to

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talk about is you're a media celebrity
and a chief educator. And I have

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to situate this for our listeners in
that you didn't go through the formal education

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system, and I think that's probably
part of the reason you become so successful

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as you are today. But you
started in twenty thirteen making two minute videos

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about what worked for you in business. You put them on YouTube. You

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got sixty subscribers, as I understand
it, that first year. Then you

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changed the name from your own to
Value Tamement, and three years later you

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grew into one hundred thousand subscribers.
Now I looked yesterday, it looks like

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you have two point three million subscribers
on YouTube. So you are a content

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creator maniac Patrick, Where does all
that come from? All the energy thes

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ask to create all that content?
So originally, you know, you know,

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for me, I'm all about seeing
if I actually have a product.

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Meaning when we first started creating content, I told myself and I told Mario,

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I said, if there is not
an audience for the topics I'm talking

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about, we're not going to do
it, because you know, I'm just

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not going to be doing that.
I just want to make sure there's an

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audience for it. So once I
got specific about what the word we're going

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to create content for, which was
entrepreneurs things changed. Because we we were

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originally wide, which means we were
talking about so many different topics. Then

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I said, we're going to go
to narrow and all we're going to talk

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about is entrepreneurship. Then we created
momentum, and then we are where we

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are today. Obviously, my main
motivation with creating content was I was hoping

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that there was a channel out there
that I would want to have at the

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age of twenty six, twenty seven
to twenty eight and say I'm running a

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business that's doing a million dollars or
five million dollars per year, and I

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want to figure out a way how
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million dollars per year. I wanted
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exactly how the itemic got created and
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for it. And by the way, it takes a lot of effort to

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create content. To have a business
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with attorneys, with carriers, with
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three kids, with family friends,
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exercising, all of that stuff takes
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the audience energizes you. And the
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turned into what it is today.
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ways that we can also prove,
if you will, that there's some real

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residence for people, is that you
manage in your first big conference in May

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of last year, twenty nineteen,
to attract six hundred entrepreneurs from forty three

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different countries one hundred and forty industries. It looks like you had to postpone

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this one or cancel this one this
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conference and you got those numbers.
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know. You know, there's a
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an events again and you're charging them. Yeah, thousand, five, ten

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thousand dollars for tickets, and people
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and you know business is running a
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a half a billion a year end. Very very excited to see what happened

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there. And obviously we were looking
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were anticipating four thousand, but the
pandemic threw us a curveball, so we

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have to make some adjustments with it. I appreciate that very much in respect

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your choice there. Okay, So
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our listeners that I really appreciate about
you, Patrick. There's many things I

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could go on and say, but
for the sake of time, I really

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appreciate the father, friend, and
mentor you are to so many. I

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hear people over and over again remark
about your incredible ability to remember their details,

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their issues when they come to you
with something. People maybe you have

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met one time and you take all
of these mentees on. You've got this

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huge focus on helping other people.
So the first thing I want to understand

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you just presence for us world,
is like, how do you get the

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energy to be of such service to
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you summon that ferocity to do it? Yeah? I mean it must matter

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to you. You know. For
instance, I can't go up. Some

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people can play video games for hours
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I can't do it for hours.
I used to play Fester's Quest and Zelda

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and Mario and you know, Final
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desire for it today. My desire
today is what I'm doing. When I

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got to a point when I got
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me was clarity. Clarity gives you
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I got clear out of point where
I said, Okay, Pat,

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the first twenty years of your life
is to learn about human nature, experiences,

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and try to not make any massive
mistakes. Any first twenty years.

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You know, not a felony,
don't go to jail, don't try to

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do anything that's going to totally ruin
your career. Make some mistakes, but

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not the big ones that's going to
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phase of my life life was to
find an industry and find a skill and

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a trade that I can get very
good at and get behind it. So

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I found financial industry. I've always
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I said, I'm going to go
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a lot of people say things like
I'll try it out for six months,

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I'll try it off for two years
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does. I said, I'm going
twenty years. And the reason why I

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said I'm going twenty years is because
too often I see people will go from

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industry to industry to industry to industry, and every single time they're about to

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experience momentum, they leave it because
they hit a wall and it's frustrating,

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and they hit a plateau and they
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think this industry is for me.
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Then they go to another industry,
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what they're not able to maximize is
that momentum. The compounding ethic affect the

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massive momentum that builds up and all
of a sudden makes an average person look

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like a rock star. They don't
experience. So for me, you know,

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the energy came from having a vision
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wake up. And once that vision
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what I could do, and I
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found the right people. Then the
rest was to ask myself, how big

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do we want to build this?
Do we want to be a regional market.

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Do we want to be a statewide
you know, people know us in

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the state of California? Do we
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we want to build this poppy here? And you know, that's kind of

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the next question you ask, and
you say, what is the level where

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you're comfortable with? What are you
confident with? Where are we going to

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be content with? And then at
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making money, that's when you really
realize how big you think, because it's

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easy to say I think very big
when you're making fifty thousand dollars or one

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hundred thousand dollars and you start making
a quarter million dollars and a half a

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million dollars, then you make a
million dollar year income. You got nice

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cars parked in a garage and a
fifteen thousand square foot home. You've been

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all over the world, visited forty
countries. You've had dinner with the most

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strangest people and personalities that you've admired. Now, why do you want to

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work even harder? That's when you
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is why my basic business success model
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different things. Number one is outwork, but most people think it's just work.

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It can work and still not be
the best. Number two is out

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improve, but you can outwork and
out improve and you still won't be the

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best. Number three is out strategize. But you can outwork and out improve

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and outstrategize your peers and you still
could not be the best. Because the

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last one is very hard and the
last one is outlast. Most people can't

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last. When you compete with somebody
in a game and any business you're playing

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in sports and the war and military, it doesn't matter what it is,

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whether it's in the capitalistic nation like
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we're currently living in. Is you
out work, you out improve, you

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out strategize, and if you show
that you're willing to tolerate pain more than

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your competitors. Eventually, one day
youre going to look around. You're going

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to say, wait a minute,
we're officially the biggest out there in the

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marketplace. How did this happen?
Because of those four criterias can listen to

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you all day long. But on
that note, let's grab our first break.

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I'm Elise Cortes. We're in there
with Patrick Bette David, who is

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a prolific content creator, producer,
author and CEO of both PHP Agency and

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Value Tainment Media. He's the author
the soon to be released book called Your

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Next Five Moves, Think Clear,
Solve Faster, scale bigger, and achieve

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your vision as an entrepreneur. He
joined today from Dallas, Texas. We've

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been talking a bit about his approach
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him as a businessman as a human
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to talk about a few of the
key technical tools that I took from his

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book that I think will really help
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right back. Doctor Elise Cortez is
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and inspirational speaker and author. She
helps companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders

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and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning
infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,

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and commitment within the workforce. To
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to your organization, please visit her
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how to get your employees working on
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send an email to Aleise Alise at
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working on Purpose. Thanks for staying
with us, and welcome back to working

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on Purpose if you're just joining us. My guest is Patrick bet David,

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a prolific content creator, producer,
author and CEO of both PHP Agency and

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Value Tainment Media. He has cultivated
and extremely engaged organic fan based over four

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million followers across five media platforms,
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to education, conversations and business.
I'm your host, doctor Leis Cortes.

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So for this segment, Patrick,
I just want to focus on a few

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of what I considered to be the
technical tools that you give in your book,

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And I first want to say,
I think you have given us a

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gift. Oh my gosh, how
you crafted this incredibly tight book. It's

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full of inspiration all I think it
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human being and as a businessman.
So first, you got plenty of other

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things to do. Why did you
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hope it does for its readers?
So the reason why I wrote this book

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is because you know, I was
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and Magnus Carlson, who young phenom, comes up and it becomes the best,

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the grand master in the mart market
place. Everybody's following this guy house.

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He beating everybody. He became this
incredible story. In one of the

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cod quotes, they talked about knowing
he knows his next fifteen moves. A

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grand master knows his next fifteen moves. And I sat there and I said,

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you know, it's interesting. Every
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planning, I'll sit there and I
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to be around a board and have
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also have a paper and pen on
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challenges, enemies, problems, allies, everything and the big goal that we

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have in mind of what we want
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work on our next steps on what
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about making the next steps that we
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Meaning people generally have the right idea
of what they want to do and

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what they want to achieve, but
the sequencing of their next moves is why

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they don't achieve it. For example, a lot of times people are tempted

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to do move nineteen on move three. When you make move nineteen on move

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three, you've done it so far
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and end up taking steps back because
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make your move number nineteen. When
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there's certain moves you make. There's
certain moves you don't make right up front

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because one, you know you're not
ready for number two. You don't want

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to disclose it to the pointed too
early because if you do, he knows

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exactly what you're getting ready to do. And the last one is just because

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you still haven't developed yourself to be
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that you want to make. So
I wrote this book because we were sitting

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around and talking to our peers and
they were asking me, Pat, how

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do you come up with your next
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to be doing something, you come
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agency, you do this, and
you started a YouTube channel, and you

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went from nobody knowing what you were
doing. And one of the toughest platforms

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to create subscribers on is not Instagram
or you know some of Facebook. It's

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very hard to do it on YouTube
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it's very challenging on YouTube, and
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a content. Well, I said, it's because of these next five move

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strategies that I use. So typically
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Way was written, it was broken
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them having three different chapters to write
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and the five moves. And so
somebody could read this book and they could

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say, you know what, I
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entrepreneur, I want to be an
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to be an entrepreneur, I want
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if I want to be solopreneur.
I want to be a number six in

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a company, and I don't want
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even want to be a president.
I just want to be a person in

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the company that brings value and hopefully
i'll get some equity and when the company

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has an exit, I get my
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dollar check or ten million dollar check
or look, I don't want to be

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the founder, but I want to
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much from him or her and eventually
ask that person that, hey, I

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want to now be the CEO of
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and give me two percent the company. And so if the company sells,

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you get a fifty million dollar check
or a twenty million dollar check, or

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a hundred million dollar check, or
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you're worth fifty nine billion dollars and
he was never an entrepreneur. He was

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an entrepreneur for you know, Bill
Gates. So the key is knowing who

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you want to be and then knowing
the kind of a life you want to

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live, and then, based on
who you want to be in the life

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you want to live, map out
exactly your next five, ten, fifteen

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moves on how to get there.
That was so crisp. There's so much

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more I could ask about that.
I do want to try to get a

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couple of those the specific tools that
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we go to our next segment,
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So I do want to if you
would please, Patrick, that personal

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identity audit that you talk about,
I think is so critical, and I

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think either you you developed it from
what was you got from somebody else,

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But help us understand why it works
so well in getting to understand who we

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You know what's crazy is most of
us spend our entire life studying other

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people. You study George Washington,
you study Alexander the Great. We end

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up studying all these philosophers. We
study everybody except for one person. We

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don't study ourselves. And if we
don't study ourselves, how are we supposed

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to move ourselves? If you don't
study yourself, no wonder. So many

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people are insecure because everybody is studying
everybody else, thinking they have to be

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like everybody else to be good enough. And you constantly compare your bad to

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their good, and you fall apart
and you play defense, you don't play

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offense. You kind of hide.
You don't want to be around people because

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what if they find out your weaknesses
versus if you sit there and do it

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the other way around, and you
take a time out and you study yourself

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and you take these questions, which
I went through, and it brought out

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the worst sides of me, the
weaknesses I have, my flaws, my

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insecurities. And then I finally sat
there and I said, listen, it's

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all good. This is you.
I'm fine with this. It's fine.

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Why you know this happened in your
life that led to this. So I

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did these questions years ago and eventually
got me to get so clear of who

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I wanted to be, and I
was so confident and comfortable amount of skin

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and eventually that helped me get to
the next level. And by the way,

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this is coming from a guy that
had given up on everything in life,

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and I thought military was just a
route for me because it offered me

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good benefits. That was literally my
decision. I said, I'm going to

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go in the army because they give
you a good salary, they give you

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play and by the way, good
salary was twelve hundred dollars a month.

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They give you place to live,
they give you benefits. They're going to

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give me a GI bill and later
on my kids are going to get the

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benefits. And I'm going to meet
my wife in the military. That's how

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small I was thinking. And then
I asked the tougher questions. I get

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out and I said, wait a
minute, maybe I can do something bigger

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with my life. So the personal
identity question was built for people to be

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able to ask the tough questions of
themselves, and by them going through those

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questions, it empowers them and encourages
them to want to take the next necess

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steps. Gorgeous. And then along
that line too, I would say the

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next extension of that is you discovered
four ways that people are generally driven,

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and that gets to motivation, and
that you talk about the importance of each

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of us understanding what drives us so
that one we can steward that for ourselves.

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And too, if you're trying to
manage somebody, you recognize what drives

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them. Will you say a little
bit about those four drivers? Yeah,

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so the four drivers. You know, I lead an organization with fifteen thousand

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people, and one of the things
I learned the hard way is the fact

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that you can't motivate everybody the same
way. Not everybody is driven by the

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same thing. I remember I was
working on Morgan Stanley Dean Witter and I

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was twenty one years old, and
I got up in front of a client

435
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group of clients and I said,
you know, can you imagine if one

436
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day you have a Ferrari and you
have a house on Pebble Beach, and

437
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you're living in this ten thousand score
foot house on the water, and you're

438
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traveling all over the world. And
I'm saying all this stuff, except my

439
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.920
audience, the average age was six
years old. They could care less about

440
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a ferrari, They could care less
about a bigger house, They could care

441
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less about a waterfront property. They
want security, freedom, peace of mind.

442
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And I was speaking to the wrong
audience. And then I went to

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a different audience, and in front
of the other audience, they were in

444
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their early twentieth college graduates just finished
everything, and here I am speaking to

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them and saying, can you imagine
if one day you have a retirement plan

446
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with an annuity that pays you a
stream of income for the rest of your

447
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life, and you're able to spend
the time with your grandkids and sitting there

448
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.480
and you're listening to the conversations and
they're looking at me, bored out of

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their minds because what twenty three year
old is thinking about retirement? None of

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them are. So I learned about
how to move myself based on what drives

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me at the different stage i'm at. So let me kind of give an

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idea about some of these things that
drive people. There's twenty different things and

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they're broken down into four different areas. First one is people that are driven

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by advance. For example, there
are those that all they want to do

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is what's the next promotion I need
to get. Okay, I went from

456
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being an employee to assistant manager to
a manager. Now I'm a director,

457
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now I'm a VP of operations,
now I'm a CEO, and I'm a

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president. What do I need to
do because I want my next promotion.

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There are those that like to complete
tasks. There are those that like to

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meet deadlines. And there are those
that like to reach a goal as a

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team. That's advancement. Individuality are
those who want lifestyle, cars, homes,

462
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:32.839
jewelry, clothes. They're driven by
lifestyle, recognition and security. I

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want to be secure. It's I
want to be recognized. I want to

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live a big life. It's a
lot of eye right, and again nothing

465
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wrong with that. Next one is
madness. These are people that are driven

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by opposition. They want an enemy. I know this sounds weird to some

467
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people if you're not driven by but
if you're one like this, you know

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exactly what I'm talking about. They
want an opposition, they want competition,

469
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:57.960
they want control. They have to
be in control of what they're doing.

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They want to expl power and fame. And by the way, if somebody's

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listening to the same, what a
narcissistic type of an individual? This is

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well if you think of them that
way. Just so you know, many

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big companies and great teams are built
by these people. If you don't know

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how to lead them, these are
the kind of people that you want on

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your team only if you know how
to lead them. So opposition, competition,

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control, power and fame, proving
others wrong, the need to avoid

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embarrassment, mastery, and desire to
be the best meaning they want to break

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records. And the last one is
those who are driven by purpose, making

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history, helping others change, impact, enlightenment, and self actualization. So

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when you listen to this, you
may say, well, the twenty seven

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year old version of me was about
individuality. Well, the thirty four year

482
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old version of me was madness,
the forty four year old version of me

483
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was about advancement, and quite frankly, today I'm about purpose. It evolves.

484
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You're not going to be the same
phase for the rest of your life.

485
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It changes as life changes. But
it's important for you to know one

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which one of these drives gives you
today and two what drives your people.

487
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And if you can figure those two
things out, the rest is history.

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Beautiful Patrick, very Chris, and
a perfect way to take us into our

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last break. I'm your host,
Alice Cortez. We don't there with Patrick

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Bette David, who is a prolific
content creator, producer, author and CEO

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of both PHP Agency and Value Tainment
Media. He's the author of the soon

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to be a released book called Your
Next Five Moves, Think Clearer, Solve

493
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.480
faster, scale, bigger, and
achieve your vision as an entrepreneur. You

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00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.160
joined to today from Dallas, Texas. After the break, we're going to

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hear more about some of the concepts
in this book that I think are quite

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00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:48.599
riveting. Stay with us, we'll
be right back. Doctor Elise Cortes is

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a management consultant specializing in meaning and
purpose. An inspirational speaker and author.

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00:31:55.480 --> 00:32:01.079
She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose
among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership and

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00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:07.319
meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment,
performance, and commitment within the workforce.

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To learn more or to invite Elise
to speak to your organization, please visit

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00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.000
her at elisecortes dot com. Let's
talk about how to get your employees working

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00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:29.319
on purpose. This is working on
Purpose with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach

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our program today or open a conversation
with Alise, send an email to a

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00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:46.559
lease Alise at elisecortes dot com.
Now back to working on Purpose. Thanks

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for staying with us, and welcome
back to working on Purpose. If you're

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just tuning in. My guest is
Patrick Bett David, a prolific content creator,

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producer, author and CEO both PHP
agency and value tayment Media. He

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00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.640
has cultivated an extremely engaged Genek fan
base of over four million followers across five

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00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:07.279
media platforms as an unapologetic and thought
provoking approach to education, conversations, and

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business. I'm your host, Alice
Cortes. Before we get into some of

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the conceptual bit did you put in
your book that I thought was so compelling,

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patri Let me just give our listeners
one more thing from the technical piece

513
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.640
that I thought was so amazing,
and that's that concept of solving for X

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00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.319
decision making. Will you share that? Yeah? So, everything I look

515
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.480
at is looking at the problem from
software X. Meaning in high school,

516
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when you were doing math, it
was X plus Y equals nine. You'd

517
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.839
figure out what is why is six? We already know what X is?

518
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.720
X is three? Right, everything
in life I like to look at it

519
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.680
from the lens of solving for X. So the more and more questions I

520
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.960
asked, I finally realized what the
real problem is that we're facing. You

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00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.000
know, a lot of times we're
just like, oh my gosh, I

522
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.079
lost the customer. What do I
do well ask the right question? What

523
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.440
kind of questions do I ask?
Why did you lose the customer. You

524
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.039
know, we lost, that's the
customer. Why well, because the competing

525
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.680
products cost less? Why does it
cost less because it has fewer features?

526
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.519
Why does it have future features?
Because most customers don't need all the features

527
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.400
in one product. Uh huh,
I got it. So, you know,

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00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.159
you really got to look at everything
from a software standpoint, Especially when

529
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.679
you're building a business, You're going
to meet a lot of new challenges that

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00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.840
you've never been there before. And
if you don't try to get to the

531
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:24.079
bottom of it, a lot of
time we just kind of fix things based

532
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.760
on surface level. We just put
a band aid on it. And you

533
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.599
can't put a band aid. While
you may need a stitching, you can't

534
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.760
put a band aid on every single
problem. Unfortunately, most of our lives,

535
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.639
we solve most of our problems with
temporary solutions. Look at where America's

536
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.199
at today. Look at all the
last few days, the challenges we've been

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00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.840
facing. Why are we having these
challenges? Everything is a band aid.

538
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:51.559
We keep fixing problems with band aids. What happens, problems keep reappearing.

539
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.880
Sometimes to make the tough decisions and
realize what we need to do to lead

540
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.800
is not necessarily the most popular thing
we need to be doing, but sometimes

541
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.639
those are the things that leader must
do so the same problem doesn't reappear.

542
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.960
If we're sitting in a boardroom and
we have a challenge, we're facing whatever

543
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.199
it could be, a lawsuit,
a fine, a software that went wrong,

544
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.760
a rogue employee, somebody that defamation
of character, whatever it could be.

545
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When you're building a business, you
could face many different forms of crisis.

546
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But when you're sitting there and going
through it, one of the questions

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I ask all our guys is what
do we need to do to make sure

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00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.760
this problem never reappears again? What
do we need to do not to delay

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00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.920
this three months is to make sure
it never reappears again. And once we

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think from that standpoint, sometimes we
have to spend a little bit more time

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00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.480
about processing that issue. But every
time we've done that, it saved us

552
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.599
hundreds of future headaches. Which is
why you know, just this month,

553
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.159
right now, while I'm talking to
on the phone, the month of May

554
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.079
just close for us. Last May, in a month of in twenty nineteen,

555
00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:00.000
we sold five six hundred and sixty
one insurance policies in a month.

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That's without a pandemic. That's without
protesting, that's without rice, that's without

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00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.760
office is shutting down. And I
sell insurance and newdies and retirement products,

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00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.000
which means we looked at you face
to face. Well, this year,

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in a month of May, with
all of that last month, we sold

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ten thousand, six hundred and seventy
policies in a month. That's the first

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00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.320
one we cracked ten thousand policies.
Why because when the pandemic first happened,

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I was in LA for board meeting
and all my board members canceled it.

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And they'll like, oh yeah,
we were all meeting together. They all

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said, well, I have to
go back to Connecticut. I have to

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00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.800
go back to New York. Everybody
was worried because that's the day and the

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NBA shutdown and HL shutdown. If
you remember this, everybody was panicking.

567
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This was like March eleventh date that
we're talking about. And I said,

568
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wait a minute, if this is
happening, what do we got to do.

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And I was in LA with my
wife and three kids and my nanny.

570
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I said, let's go to Universal
Studios. We're staying at Beverly Hills

571
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.679
Hilton. I said, bab,
we got to go back today. We

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00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.039
were in la for less than twenty
three hours. We flew back to Dallas.

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I came straight to the office,
spent fourteen hours in the office A

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lot. I said, don't bother
me. I went and researched every pandemic,

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how to market reacted six months later, how the immediate overreaction and fear

576
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is, and how the medium makes
it bigger or if it's real, if

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it's not real. Fourteen hours I
looked at every time. I said,

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Okay, you have to assume this
is bad. So let's assume this is

579
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bad and do everything necessary to be
prepared for this. But also on the

580
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.400
other side, we have to make
some fast pivots, so every presentation was

581
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:30.639
shifted to zoom. Everything that we
did, we made audibles to shift a

582
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.840
way of selling insurance. I contacted
all my carriers to see if they can

583
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.480
do certain things to accommodate without having
to meet the client to sign off the

584
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:43.800
policy delivery receipt. Long story short, Those immediate audits that audibles that we

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made in pivots that we made helped
us prepare us for the month of May

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00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.480
that we just had. Obviously,
June's going to be the biggest ever,

587
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.079
but May ended up being the biggest
month we've ever had. So all of

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00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.719
those things comes together when you solve
for REX. So that just showcases for

589
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.880
me, Patrick, just the beauty
of that magnificent brain that you've culled to.

590
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.960
It's just it is. And this
idea of five moves in advance now

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00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.480
really fifteen. That's a great way
to showcase that. And I wanted to

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make sure that we gave that to
our listeners so that they started to at

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least approximate or at least step into
the space of dancing with you on that

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level. And I do think of
you Patrick as a modern day philosopher.

595
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You are probably the most informed businessman
that I've met, and so I wanted

596
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.199
to have you share a couple of
things that I got from your book that

597
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.159
I thought were so compelling on a
conceptual level. And one is that you

598
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:34.320
talk about religion and business and you
say, look, all religions have believers

599
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.559
and rituals, and what business can
see without people believing in it? What

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business doesn't have value symbols, sayings, credos, et cetera to make up

601
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its culture. And then you go
on to say that Google, Apple,

602
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.840
South Post Airlines and Walmart are all
religions. I think this is such a

603
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.000
powerful point. Will you say more
about your thinking about these two items and

604
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.960
how they're related. Absolutely, I
mean, Sam Walton could have been a

605
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pastor. You could have been a
preacher. Yeah, and a profit.

606
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.239
He could have been somebody that's going
out there. I mean, what is

607
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really the difference. The only difference
is here you're talking about profits and business

608
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and jobs, and you know,
in religions you're talking about a higher power

609
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.280
and a calling. But at the
end of the day, you know,

610
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you have to follow certain proverbs,
you have to follow certain rituals. You

611
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have to create a culture. You
have to have a vision of what we're

612
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going. There's got to be an
end in line why somebody is willing to

613
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work very hard to one day see
Walmart become the largest employerer in America with

614
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two point three million employees. You
know, a Bezos is somebody that's built

615
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Amazon as a culture. I know
that company may be the most hated company

616
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for a lot of people, But
if the company's worth a trillion dollars and

617
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.679
he's a sixteen percent owner of the
company, him and his wife, I

618
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.559
know the whole detail with the personal
life. But let's just say sixteen percent.

619
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That's one hundred and sixty billion to
hein his wife. There's another eight

620
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hundred and forty billion dollars of wealth
that has been made for other people.

621
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It's an interesting story about this guy, the fact that at first, when

622
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he started Amazon, he went and
raised a million dollars from twenty of his

623
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relatives. The relatives and friends.
The average person gave him fifty thousand dollars.

624
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:13.079
Let me say this again. He
raised a million dollars, He got

625
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fifty thousand dollars from twenty different people, and he gave up twenty percent of

626
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Amazon. Let me say that again, twenty percent of Amazon for one million

627
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dollars. Those people that bought the
twenty percent of Amazon for one million dollars,

628
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that attempt to twenty percent is worth
two hundred billion dollars today, two

629
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hundred billion dollars. You go look
at a Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett and

630
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.519
Berkshire Hathaway is pretty much a religion. He's the profit. Everybody follows profit

631
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Buffet. And he makes predictions,
some right, some wrong, some of

632
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them become right, and some of
them don't. Become right. You know,

633
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there was a guy years ago in
nineteen seventy something when he first started

634
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:57.119
Berkshire Hathaway. This man gave Buffett
ten thousand dollars. You can actually go

635
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.360
search this guy's story. He gave
him ten thousand dollars and never did anything

636
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:06.119
with the ten thousand dollars kill today. Nothing. He just left it with

637
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:12.000
Buffett. That ten thousand dollars today's
worth seven hundred and thirty eight million dollars.

638
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.360
He never took the money out,
not a penny of it. He

639
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.840
lived off of everything else that he
had. So in the world of business

640
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and a culture that you're creating,
whether you're working and playing for Notre Damn

641
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.599
Football Notre Dame, or you're playing
for Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots,

642
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.639
or Phil Jackson from the Bulls of
the Lakers, or Greg Popovich or

643
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.320
I can go on saying a lot
of different stories. Everything will come down

644
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:36.960
to a culture led by a visionary
a profit that creates a certain let of

645
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a certain set of culture, a
certain set of standards and criterias and rituals

646
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that people follow. And then he
eventually finds a true believer. And once

647
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.840
you find true believers who fully buy
into what you want to do. The

648
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.000
rest is history because everybody else says, if Bobby is a true believer to

649
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:57.920
Johnny, why am I not believing
Johnny? Then Bobby helps convert other people

650
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.800
into believing Johnny. And this exam
could be, if you know a Balmer

651
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.360
believes in Bill Gates, why don't
I believe in Bill Gates? If Paul

652
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:08.480
Allen believes in Bill Gates, why
don't I believe in Bill Gates? If

653
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:13.599
Steve Wantsney believes Steve Jobs, why
don't I believe in Steve Jobs? So

654
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you know a lot of similarities when
you see these companies that do it well.

655
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And it's by the way, it's
one of the reasons also when they

656
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.440
get a black guy, because some
people say, well I don't like what

657
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.440
they're doing here, I understand it. I didn't say you're gonna like it.

658
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.880
I just tell you it's very effective
and if you really broke it down,

659
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.920
it's what makes a great organization based
on those certain principles that we just

660
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.800
talked about. So what I like
about that, Patrick, or what I

661
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.719
want to why I wanted to share
that is because when people start to open

662
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:44.239
their minds to thinking on that much
higher level. They can see things much

663
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.599
differently, and then they do from
this very low level, singular tree perspective.

664
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That's why I wanted you to share
that. Thank you so much.

665
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:52.159
We're coming close to the end of
the show, so I want to give

666
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.280
you a choice, Patrick, if
you will either for this last question talk

667
00:42:55.320 --> 00:43:00.840
about either your chapter four on how
mobsters sell, negotiated and LUNs, which

668
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.639
I think is very PBSQ the way
that you talk about that, or if

669
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:06.199
you want to talk about the story
about Ela, which one do you want

670
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.000
to finish with. You know,
we can talk about we can talk about

671
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.360
the mob side. We can talk
about that on the cell, negotiate and

672
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.480
influence. You know, I've had
the chance for you know. One day

673
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.360
I get a call from my booker
and he tells me, I got this

674
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.039
mobster I want you to interview.
I'm like, I'm an entrepreneur channel,

675
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:23.280
why would I interview this month?
So I'm telling you you want to interview

676
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.239
this guy. So I said,
no, I'm good, he says,

677
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:29.000
Pat. A year and a half, we go back and forth. He

678
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.440
says, here's why you need to
interview. Finally I decided to interview him.

679
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.639
So I'm sitting at Jordan Belforce House. This is the Mando Wolfo wall

680
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:38.679
Street, and I'm talking to him, and I'm doing an interview. On

681
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:43.760
the way back at Newport Beach,
I interviewed this mobster, Michael Francis.

682
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.079
When I sit down at his place
and I'm interviewing him, we're not we

683
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:50.079
have no idea what's going to happen. I have no idea. Two years

684
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.400
later that was going to get ten
million views on YouTube and in translated in

685
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:57.800
Russia and all these other languages.
It's got around one hundred million views,

686
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.320
this interview that I did. Long
story. After that interview, all the

687
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:07.239
mobsters around the world started calling me. So Oscar Goodman, who was Tony

688
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:13.599
Spilatra's attorney and also three times mayor
of Las Vegas for twelve years and his

689
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.519
wife's now the mayor of Las Vegas, he calls me. We do his

690
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.320
interview. That one gets nearly a
million views. We do Frank Klatta,

691
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:23.320
who was in the movie Casino,
which Frank is a pretty serious gangster from

692
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.280
Chicago. We do his interview.
He gets a few million views. And

693
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.480
I interviewed all these other guys and
then eventually Sammy to bou Gravano that we

694
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.400
do the interview. He's only done
two interviews. One is with Diane Sawyer

695
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.239
and the other one is with me. We interview him. Then you got

696
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.039
Phil Leonetti and then Ralf Natali all
these other names. Anyways, here's one

697
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.920
of the things I learned about interviewing
these folks. And obviously, as a

698
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:46.280
kid, I grew up with my
dad watching all the mob movies, the

699
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.920
Godfathers, the Bronx Tale, the
Casinos, the Good Fellas, all of

700
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:55.719
them when you go into When I
was a kid coming to Germany, my

701
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.960
dad protected me from all evil things
because in he he was so paranoid of

702
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.719
what could happen to his kids.
So I was never allowed to play outside.

703
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.599
He was always there. He was
so paranoid. So when I went

704
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.480
to Germany, I thought everybody was
good, meaning every person was good,

705
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.679
like they all wanted it good for
me. When I got to this refugee

706
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.800
camp and I'm from Iran, there
were people there from Pakistan, Afghanistan,

707
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.400
you know, Yugoslavia at the time, check poland everywhere. And I'm a

708
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:27.679
ten year old kid who grew up
pretty sheltered. You know, church,

709
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.320
all this other stuff. Next thing, you know, these kids really start

710
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.800
bullying me. And I got stabbed
one night by this Afghanian kid who kind

711
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.440
of played the role of being my
friend and then he betrayed me, and

712
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.360
then all of a sudden, in
a fight, he stabbed me. I'm

713
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.840
like, wait a minute, what
the hell just happened? That day,

714
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.360
I learned not everybody wants the best
in you, and that's okay. So

715
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.880
today when my son Dylan, whom
everybody likes him, today, I'm very

716
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.719
careful to say, Dylan, everybody
likes you. I'll always say Dylan,

717
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.480
almost everybody liked and he'll ask me
that, why do you say almost?

718
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.440
I said, because not everybody likes
you. What do you mean not everybody

719
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.960
like? I said, because not
everybody likes your daddy, And that's okay.

720
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.280
You can't get everybody like you.
So I'm very careful to not get

721
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.519
him to think that in life,
everybody's supposed to like him. What does

722
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.880
this have to do with business everything. If you ever decide to want to

723
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.079
do something big, you have to
know that you're going to piss a lot

724
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.039
of people off, and you can't
be naive to think everybody wants you to

725
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.840
win big. When we were small
and we only had sixty six agents,

726
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.119
a lot of my competitors would call
me and they would say things like this,

727
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.119
Patrick, we're rooting for you,
we love you, we wish you

728
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.920
nothing but the best. We think
you're gonna do great, buddy. I'm

729
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.239
like, oh, wow, these
are such nice people. But in the

730
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.840
back of my hand my head,
I already knew that's not the case.

731
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:51.599
And then eventually when we got bigger, next thing, you know, who

732
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.000
do you think you are? What
makes you think you can do this and

733
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:55.840
what makes you think you can do
that? I said, listen, I

734
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.159
told you a long time ago money
compete. Now that we're actually doing the

735
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:00.639
numbers, now you're not with me. I said, you were supporting me.

736
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:06.440
So if you're going to compete in
the game of business, Chapter five

737
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:10.519
is move number five is specifically for
you because move number five is all about

738
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:16.320
power plays. And if you don't
learn and master these power plays, you

739
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:22.599
will find yourself very quickly being bullied
around in the marketplace, and you'll be

740
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.480
disappointed in the business and you'll say, I don't like it. But it's

741
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:29.199
not the fact that you don't like
it. You need to learn the power

742
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.360
place because once you learn the power
place, you'll actually enjoy it because it's

743
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.920
a game they can actually play and
have a lot of fun with. And

744
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.840
at the same time, if you
do it with the right people, you

745
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.320
can also make a lot of money
with. So yes, there's an element

746
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:45.840
of that that for those who run
businesses, that section of the book Move

747
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.360
number five is something they'll they're not
just going to read once, They're going

748
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.719
to read multiple times. It's just
chewy. And here we are out of

749
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:54.840
time, Patrick say, in just
thirty seconds or less, what would like

750
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.159
to leave our listeners with? All
I want to leave my listeners with is

751
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:00.920
take some time to fit out exactly
who you want to be. Forget about

752
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.639
everybody else, forget about me,
forget about anybody in your family, what

753
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.840
they've done, how big they've done
it. Don't compare yourself. Who do

754
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:09.280
you want to be? Get clear
on it, what kind of a life

755
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.880
you want to live? And based
on that, go put your pieces of

756
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.400
the puzzle together and go make it
happen. Beautiful, Patrick, thank you

757
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.079
so much for being my guests and
sharing who you are with listeners across the

758
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.639
globe. To make their lives better. Thank you, appreciate you very much.

759
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:22.760
You know how much I respect you. Thank you for having me.

760
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:27.119
Thank you for that. Listeners,
you want to learn more about Patrick Bette

761
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.719
David PHP agency Value teament media,
his books, or his thought leadership,

762
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.840
you can start by visiting Patrickbettdavid dot
com. Last week, if you missed

763
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:37.519
the live show, you always catch
it be recorded podcast. We were on

764
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:42.719
air with Ray White talking about the
importance and monitoring cultivating mental health in the

765
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:46.320
workplace to reduce stress and increase productivity
and innovation, and do so effectively through

766
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.639
the voyages at he created. Next
week, we'll be on air with Christian

767
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.559
Krom, a futurist from the Netherlands
and author of Humanification, Go Digital,

768
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.119
Stay Human. We'll be talking about
the opportunity we as humans have when we

769
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.480
collaborate with technicology to listit our higher
human competencies in the workplace and USh are

770
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.400
in a bright future that nonetheless needs
our intentional stewardship. See you there,

771
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:08.920
Remember that works at least a third
of our life, So let's work on

772
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:17.679
purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this
week's program. Be sure to tune in

773
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.960
too, Working on Purpose, featuring
your host, doctor Elise Cortes, each

774
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:28.119
week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel. Together, we'll create a world where

775
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:35.719
business operates conscientiously, Leadership inspires impassioned
performance, and employees are fulfilled in work

776
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.760
that provides the meaning and purpose they
crave. See you there, Let's work

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00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:40.440
on Purpose.