Purpose Knocks and the Grateful Recovering Alcoholic Answers

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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,

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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
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It's beyond nine to five. It's working

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on Purpose. Now Here is your
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I'm glad we're connected. Thanks for
listening. Now onto this week's program with

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us today is Scott Wilson, who
is a who has a long career as

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a business management consultant since nineteen ninety
eight, and today he's navigating a fresh

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path to purpose rising and confronting his
own personal challenge through his journey to become

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a grateful, recovered alcoholic through founding
Authentic Success, a business performance consultancy that

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helps organizations embrace the uncomfortable, the
gratitude and grace to achieve authentic success.

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We'll be talking about what led him
to his path to purpose, a bit

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about just what this surprising path has
entailed and how he is standing in his

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purpose today to create a wholly different
professional and personal life for himself. You'll

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learn the certificance of just where it
is that we're doing this radio show.

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That's the Cup Help Police Station.
As the conversation unfolds, we're also broadcasting

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live on Facebook Live. You can
interact with us there. Scott, welcome

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to working on Purpose. Thank You'm
glad to be here, and that's awesome.

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This is so let's start if we
can. We've got a lovely crowd

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of people here. Hi, Brandy, it's great to have you. Love

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the crowd of people here joining us
on Facebook as well, and so if

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you can just start by sharing with
us the way that you are now these

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days, normally introducing yourself. Sure, when I speak publicly, usually start

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with I'm on, I'm Scott,
and I'm a grateful recover alcoholic, and

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part of that goes back to the
story and the journey that I've been on.

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As you mentioned, I was very
involved in management consulting and worked for

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one of the top consulting firms in
the world at the time going back into

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twenty fifteen, and had struggled with
an increasing dependence upon alcohol over the last

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ten years of my career that led
up to At the time, I was

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traveling all over the world, working
with a couple of the largest companies in

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the world, but working in places
like Singapore and Australia and London and down

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in Argentina and on the road a
lot, flying two hundred to three hundred

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thousand miles a year, and with
that one a certain lifestyle that certainly didn't

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cause my issue, but it certainly
helped escalate it. From the standpoint of

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I had my own internal challenges that
I was struggling with with identity and anxiety

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and depression and looking to in fears
and just looking to kind of bury those

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under the alcohol. In twenty fifteen, November twenty third, twenty fifteen,

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I was pulled over by the Kapel
Police Department in front of the ACE Hardware

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here in town, and the officer, Bryce Lee, would come up to

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the car and ask me if I
know why he pulled me over, and

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my answer was, I can't do
this anymore. I give up. And

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he did not know what that comment
meant, but it was the culmination of

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a long struggle with it. I
knew that I could not do this anymore.

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That was at a place that I
was actually killing myself. And what

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we would later find out is that
my blood alcohol was at a point four,

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which for people that don't know,
yes, presents that for us that

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can kill you normal. The normal
what would actually get you pulled over and

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sent to jail is what what amout
eight point eight? So, Ladies and

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Jolen the difference point four for him
as opposed to point o eight, which

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is what would normally send you into
jail. And that was that. The

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ability to drink at that level came
over years. It's called conditioning or training.

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Not in a good way, but
but it was at that point that

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a journey began where I had some
experiences throughout the next couple of days that

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as I just I had pulled out
a out of my wallet while I was

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sitting down at Dallas County Jail,
a card that somebody had given me about

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six years before, which was when
I first knew what my problem was.

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But I thought, because I was
smart and successful, I'll figure this out

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on my own. I got this. Yep, yeah, I got this,

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And obviously I didn't and I just
pulled it out. It had twelve

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steps and s ready prayer on it, and I really read it for the

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first time and just kind of under
my breath said, you know, God,

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I don't know how to live,
but I don't want to die.

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I need help. And a series
of events happened over the next twenty four

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hours of men in the Dallas County
Jail that would come up and share their

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story out of the blue, not
knowing what I had prayed or why I

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was there. That started me on
this path to recover. And I would

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that thanksgiving, fess up to my
family about the struggle I was in and

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would lead to treatment and spent a
month of treatment, spent a good nine

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months heavily focused on my recovery journey. So a couple of things I want

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to share with the audience here and
again. I see some new friends.

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Hello, Kevin Fisher, Allen Porter, great to have you with us.

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Thanks for joining us. So you
were pulled over once before and got yourself

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out of that with an attorney and
then got pulled over again. Yes,

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I had just come off probation from
my first official DWI the week before I

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was arrested by Bryce, and because
I looked good and had, you know,

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from a professional standpoint, had a
career and not a lot of run

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ins with the law, that they
sent me on my way and a slap

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on the wrist and don't do it
again and go to a meetings. And

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I would do that, and well
I would pretend to do that. I

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didn't really go to meetings, and
I didn't certainly focus on what I should

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have been. I literally filled the
form out and faxed it in at the

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end of the month, thinking I'll
figure this out still and that things really

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progressed and escalated to just daily drinking. And there was probably not an hour

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of the day in that last year
year and a half where the majority of

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the year that I was not probably
over the legal limit at some point for

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most of the day. Wow,
not at the level that I was arrested

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at, But well, I think
it's really important for our listeners to really

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understand the depth of what must have
been happening to drive you to a place

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where you're literally drinking almost every hour
every day. Well, and what I

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found out through the journey and counseling
and when I was down at the treatment

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center down at Kervelllhacienda, was that
I was actually practicing a form of passive

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suicide, which began to resonate as
I came out of the fog of the

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alcoholism. You know that, I
know every day I had hoped that I

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would just plow into a telephone poll
and kill myself and that would be the

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end of it, and that everybody
around me's life would get better. You

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know, I certainly didn't have desire
to hurt anybody, but that was the

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journey that I was on, and
I knew, you know that that's my

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view was my life's going to be
over soon. Hopefully it will just end,

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and everybody's life will get better around
me because of the pain that caught

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comes from being an active alcoholic and
the destruction that could do. And for

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whatever reason, I had that moment
of clarity that night when Bryce pulled me

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over, was I just didn't want
to die. I wanted to be there

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for my kids, and I just
had that moment of clarity that lasted between

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then and too kind of coming through
doing what's a hard detox from alcoholism,

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which is not recommended. And I
don't remember that that I went through,

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although there's people that saw me and
tell me later what I was like that

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night, you know. But I
was in a lot of pain at that

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point and just my body no longer
having the substance in it, but still

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have that clarity of I want to
live and I want to figure this out.

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I really want to acknowledge what has
to be the most profound kind of

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suffering to live like that. Scott. I just to stand in your presence

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and know that that's the path that
you've been on is profound. To be

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in this presence with you. Thank
you. It's not a journey I want

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to repeat. I understand that,
but I'm grateful to have been down that

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road. Yes, yes, well, speaking of gratitude, one of the

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things that I really appreciated about your
story is that in part of your recovery

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program, there is the piece about
making amends, and so you came back

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to the police station and asked to
speak to the office to arrest you tell

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us about what was going on and
why you did that I did it was

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I guess it's about nine months into
my journey. Mac Tristan, who's a

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former police chief for the Kapel Police
Department, happened to speak at the church.

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I tend just something inside you need
to go talk to him. And

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so I had learned at that point
through my co recovery to kind of listen

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to those prompts. And I went
and talked to him and just introduced myself

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and said I would like to come
visit with you if you have time,

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And knowing how busy he is,
I didn't know when that would be.

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He gave me his card and said
call me Monday and we'll find time.

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And I emailed him and called and
I was in his office Wednesday afternoon and

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met with him. And how was
that? How was that conversation meant?

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It was? I walked into his
office and it's a fairly big office.

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His desk is still the left and
he has a conference table to the right.

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And when I walked in, there
was the pleasantries week change that you

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would when you first walked into for
a meeting, and I noticed on the

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table there was a Manila envelope sitting
there and I figured that was my you

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know exactly what that is. And
he said, let's go sit down,

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and the pleasantries kind of changed to
the formality of the meeting. And what

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I would later learn is why most
Cappel residents come to meet with him.

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It's not a positive experience. It's
to complain about why they were pulled over,

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something that happened, and you know, to gripe about the police department.

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And I just sat down and did
like how we started this, I

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said, the best way I know
to start this, Mac is my name

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is Scott Wilson, and I'm a
grateful, recovered alcoholic and I'm here to

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thank you and your officers for WHI
y'all did for me, but also to

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make amends to the officer who arrested
me. And his response was along the

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lines of what did you just say? Yeah? Nice? Would you say

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that again? I didn't quite hear
it, and so I started down it

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just said the best thing I do
is just tell you of the journey I've

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been on, and I laid it
out lot on the table and that struck

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up a relationship between Mac and I
that he talked about a journey he had

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been on through his struggles, not
related to anything related to alcoholism or addiction,

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but his own personal struggles and his
faith journey. Really what brought us

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together was our faith journey, and
from there it just struck a relationship.

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And he said, well, I'll
be more than happy to arrange a meeting

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for you to come in and meet
the officer. And he said, but

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I might bring a couple of more
people in, and we came back in

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and I don't remember if that was
a week or two later, but it

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was a short time after that he
arranged a meeting. Danny Barton, who's

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now the police chief, was there, who at the time was over the

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night shift of when I was arrested. And the police I was going to

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say, the pastor for the police
department, that's not the right word.

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Steve, the chaplain for the police
department, was there, and there had

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to be eight or nine other guys
that were there, and all I walked

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in and thought, Oh my god, how awful was I that it took

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this many officers? Come to find
out, it didn't. It was just

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people that Mack had invited and needed
to hear. He thought needed to hear

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what I had to say, and
then I shared the story and got to

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meet Bryce and thank him. Come
to find out, I wasn't that awful

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that night. I think what Bryce
told me is I've never heard a more

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eloquent drunk in my life. I
don't know if I would like to have

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that as part of the inscription,
describe me the most eloquent drunk. But

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what I want to also presence for
the listeners is that you had said I

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just wasn't sure how my behavior was
that night, and I wanted to come

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and make amends and apologize for whatever
I might have said or done that could

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have been offensive. That was really
well. That that was why I was

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there, is that I just I
wanted whatever I had done, I wanted

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to try to make that ride as
best I could, and fairly shocking for

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the police officer to hear something like
that. That's not common for them.

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And at this point I would like
to ask Chief Chief Barton to come and

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join us for just a second and
say hi, since we are in the

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Kapel Police station and we are filming
this conversation here I have with us now

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the Chief of police here in Copel, Chief Danny Barton, who has also

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been on my show. He's up
to some amazing work here in Copel.

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And part of the reason I wanted
to have this conversation it was because Chief

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bart And sent me to Scott saying, hey, I think you've got someone

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for your show. I love the
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this conversation to be able to show
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for the better, and that we
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then I get to broker that conversation
is terribly interesting for me. So Danny,

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we've come spin around so they could
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they want to see you. So
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conversation happen. This is Chief Barton, and he recognized the path that you

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have been on here, Scott,
and suggested you would be a perfect fit

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for my show. And you are
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path now. And we're going to
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our first break. I'm your host, Alice Cortes. We've been on the

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air with Scott Wilson, who has
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consultant since nineteen ninety eight. Today, he's navigating a fresh path to purpose,

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arising from confronting his own personal challenges
through his journey to becoming a grateful,

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recovered alcoholic through founding authentic success at
business performance consultancy that helps organizations embrace

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the uncomfortable with gratitude and grace to
achieve authentic success. We're conducting this conversation

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live from the Kupal Police Department,
where the origins of his new life were

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spurred. Thanks for joining us,
We'll be right back. Stay with us.

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delivers professional development, leadership and engagement
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organization. She will help ignite meaningful
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purpose. Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to working on purpose

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if you're just joining us. My
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Authentic Success, a business performance consultancy
that helps organizations embrace the uncomfortable with gratitude

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and grace to achieve authentic success.
To arrive at this fulfilled juncture, he

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navigated first a long career as a
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his own alcoholism in service of his
newfound purpose. I'm your host, Elise

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Cortes. So now, since we've
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of words to add to this conversation. You brought us together. Thank you,

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You're welcome. What is it?
Why? Why is this this,

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this process of having Scott come forth
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and in terms of your work in
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from a police officer's perspective, we
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him off at the jail. We
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don't know the whole story and the
important piece of Scott's story is we didn't

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just see a guy who got his
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has is making impacts on people and
so bringing him into the PD. The

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point behind that was is that the
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arrested, that this guy is not
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a bad night or a few years. And so I think the importance,

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at least from my perspective from a
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you may change someone's life. Who's
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I think that is what gets us
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us every day. Okay, that's
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thank you so much. So,
listeners, what I'd like to weigh in

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on what Chief Bartin just said there
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phenomenal. Take this home and take
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What he's doing here is he's bringing
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so they can see how their work
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can actually show your people how their
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better, they're in. They're in
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the chiefs leadership to do what he's
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and showing the officers the difference that
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do. That is great leadership and
I'm down for that. Thank you Sherry

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for saying hello to that comment,
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It looks like, all right,
well, let's move on back to

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your story, because there's so much
I want to get out of you before

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before we escape. So one of
the things that I appreciate about your story,

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which I know about purpose, is
there's a few ways we can discover

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our purpose, and one is the
crucible moment that it has been part of

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yours. There's also the notion of
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get to a place where we can
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talk about how you've been able to
take something tragic and turn it into a

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way to serve others and grow yourself
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what hers says qualifies as purpose.
Say more about that for us, Yeah,

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it's I mean it, certainly it
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back at Aul, I've been there. I mean, just to be sitting

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here now if somebody had told me
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depths of my disease, that I
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no way that that was possible,
or I even had a way to see

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that was possible as I came through
the journey and the recovery treatment and outpatient

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counseling and all the things that I've
worked on, all the things that I

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grew up with. I grew up
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a home that my parents were married

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for over fifty years. You know, my dad died a year and a

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half ago, and he was a
tremendous man of faith. Things I didn't

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understand that all play together today to
where I'm at. All of a sudden

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began to make sense of there is
a purpose and there is a reason we

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go through the things we go through, And if I can help other people

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to have hope that you can get
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or you know, recovery mental illness, that that's important to share from my

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perspective, and that's that's the path
I chose. That's not something that's comfortable

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for everybody, but it was something
that was just on my heart and that

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as these opportunities that just kind of
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out, you know, from meeting
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formed into too. Now I'm involved
with the leadership program here in town that

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I'm also involved with the teen Diversion
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diversion which is focused on kids in
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or at school with the SROs at
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are minor offenses are drug and alcohol
related and sharing my story and my journey

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with them and their families that you
know, if we could touch a life

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and save a life, that that's
all that ever really mattered, and give

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people their hope and their purpose.
And that's now kind of stepping off into

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this calling, you know, or
whatever this becomes, that that's the purpose

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and what does that look like?
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a professional standpoint, working with law
enforcement, but then also giving back in

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areas that are important to me from
a recovery perspective. So a couple of

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things to drill down here so our
listeners really understand the path and the journey

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that you've been on, because it's
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You really you could at any point
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and make a pile of cash and
go get back out on an airplane and

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be doing that again. And you
and I've talked about what that would probably

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look like for you. And yet
now when you're hearing people like me and

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others say things like, well,
Scott, you know there's a place for

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you to share this message and speak
about this and write about this, and

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you're like, Oh, that hadn't
even occurred to me, And here you

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are. You're starting to do that. And even just when I was out

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speaking a couple of weeks ago and
I asked you to share your story,

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you were surrounded by people who wanted
to hear more, who were hungry to

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hear more from me. It's already
happening. So what I want to I

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want to share with our listeners and
help them help them see, is that

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when you do go out, as
you say it, on faith, into

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your purpose, things start to open
an opportunity to show up that weren't there

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before, or maybe that you couldn't
see before, And that's what's been happening

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to you. It is that it's
not it's not something I thought I was

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ever equipped to do. But as
I have a very good friend of mine

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mine with this week and said,
whose faith is important to him, said

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God, God does. God doesn't
call the equip. He equip says or

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recalled, you know, And just
things started to happen that said, here's

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the path you need to head down. So as I start to step out

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on that, Yeah, I've been
doing writings what I've called musing some I

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are grateful recovered alcoholic or something along
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now, off and on when the
kind of the inspiration hits and I write.

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But it's always been focused on the
journey and I'm going through and what

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I'm seeing. And I've had a
lot of people reach out and say you

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should put those in a book,
you know. So I'm about to start

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on that journey of actually put them
in a book and just see where that

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goes. But a lot has happened
in the past month as I've really looked

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at do I really want to go
back into that old lifestyle or do I

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which I really just wake up and
I don't have a passion for it's just

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like it's not right and it doesn't
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Danny and you and others is there's
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all I did was put it out
to universe and trust to take that next

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step that you know that there's there's
somebody out there looking after me. That

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as a plan, I just need
to walk into it and trust it.

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Help us understand what it feels like
to be called in that space. I

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have an idea because I've felt something. I'm on a path being called,

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but I don't want to put words
into your mouth. Tell us what it

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feels like to be called like that. It's scary, very good first because

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it is not anything that I have
known or done in my life. From

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a professional perspective that I'm not a
writer. I have never I struggled in

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school with the English classes, and
but when I sit down and write,

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it just kind of comes out,
you know, and it's okay. I

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embrace that, go do it and
don't be afraid to to be authentic.

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looking at myself and growing, and that's

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not always easy. But I have
found that it is free that I can

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step into being who it was I
was created to be and trust that.

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For me, it feels like literally
a pulling sensation. It feels like,

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you know, if somebody's like pulling
me along, and of course we all

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know who that somebody is, but
to me, I have that sensation of,

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you know, being by the scruff
of your neck. You are doing

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this Cortes get with it, and
it feels it's very It is scary because

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you're being let into a space that
you haven't seen before. You don't recognize

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it. It's new territory, and
you don't really necessarily know what you're doing

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at the time, and so you're
fumbling through the dark. So I think

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that's where a lot of the ensurity
comes from. It is but as I

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take those steps and trust that,
then I found the opportunities that presented themselves.

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talked, I had no idea that

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it would become this, or you
know, that this was what this would

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look like. Much less another friend
would say post on Facebook, Hey,

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there's this conference speakers conference, and
I thought, well, I'll go check

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it out. Come to find out
you're the keynote speaker, and I didn't

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know how to be standing up and
sharing in front of the conference. You

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know, it's just things that happened. Well, and here's what I want

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to make sure our listeners understand.
That happened in the space of a few

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weeks, not several years or a
month, a few weeks. This has

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happened to you. Okay, So
let's talk about this important thing that's happening

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next that you we presenced when you
share. I had you share at the

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conference, which was great. There's
this big audacious goal emanating from you starting

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to emerge for you share with us
what that is that's relative to your purpose.

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all just in the span of a
couple of weeks been unfolding, and some

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of it started over a year ago
with a close friend here in town that

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we've kind of always had a thought
we should do something together, and we've

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been on our own different journeys.
His related to grief with the loss of

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one of his children in a tragic
accident, and kind of the journey that

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spurred for him and men and grief, and we've come together and looked at

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how our journeys are different but similar, and that we've both been pushed or

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pulled however you want to look at
that into We've had things that we've looked

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at, pursuing that we're more traditional
and what our backgrounds are, both separately

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and together, but have come back
around full circle now to saying, no,

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there's something we need to go do
that's related around this whole message of

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embracing the uncomfortable with gratitude and grace
right and finding authentic success and that can

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you know, that can be different
depending on if it's business success or it's

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personal success, you know, or
you know in this case, you know,

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one of the things we've been talking
with Danny about is what that looks

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like from a law enforcement working with
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both from dealing with people like me
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things that they face daily and from
the perspective of grief. And we're starting

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to unfold that, you know,
and we'll in the next month or so

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be launching a whole consulting firm around
that. That's amazing and there's so much

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need for that. And as I
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I think the whole notion about embracing
the discomfort that you're talking about is

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such a great message, great vehicle
that you're working from. It's so important.

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It is an avenue to growth,
and that is a way that you

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can go into organizations and really spur
that growth. You guide it, you

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nurture it well. And you know
we've seen it from and I know you've

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seen it too. You can see
it in a business perspective of embracing change

409
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or not embracing change, and what's
the attitude going into that and how do

410
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.799
you do that? The difficulties or
the difficulties around project teams or high performing

411
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.640
teams. You know, it's not
always just change out the players, you

412
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.279
know, sometimes it's the players looking
at themselves and going, what do I

413
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.720
need to change about me that's causing
the negative and the project or the team

414
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.559
or the you know, whatever that
effort is you're trying to launch. Is

415
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.319
is there something I need to focus
on to move away from the negative to

416
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the positive and embracing the positive that
everybody brings to the team. And are

417
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:33.680
you really putting your company or your
organization setting it up for success or failure

418
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.279
because you don't want to embrace that. I just want it to go away,

419
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.039
So I'll change everything out to get
the comfortable. Right well, that

420
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.279
may be the wrong answer, right
well. And along those lines, change

421
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.200
is hard, as my friend Sherry
Ila Yuri who's on now says, she

422
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.119
says, change is hard, you
go first. I love that. But

423
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.880
there's a couple of comments here on
the Facebook Live that I just want to

424
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:59.240
acknowledge. One that people are saying, really, your story encourages them,

425
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:00.880
Scott, And that's one thing that
part of the reason I wanted to have

426
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.359
you on the show is I do
want people to be encouraged to go looking

427
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:08.720
for their purpose, to go and
embrace the discomfort. It is uncomfortable to

428
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:14.440
look into your purpose or to let
it use you and take you. And

429
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.519
so you've got people here are saying
thank you for showing me that this is

430
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.759
possible and encouraging me in your path. Well, you know it's people did

431
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.359
it for me in different ways,
and I have just kind of learned from

432
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:32.039
that and started to embrace that that
you know, we were created. From

433
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.400
my perspective, we were creative for
relationship. You know, this is not

434
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.599
an ee world. It's a wee
world. And it takes all of us

435
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.720
together to do this and to do
it right. And the reality is is

436
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.599
life is going to happen and come
at us. And there's a lot of

437
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.400
things that we don't control. In
fact, there's very little we control in

438
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:55.119
our lives. Richard Gorre has a
book about breathing underwater and that I'm reading

439
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.880
right now. One of the things
I really love about that is, you

440
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.880
know, I can I can stand
at the edge of the look at it

441
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.200
and admire it, but it's eventually
going to overtake me. So I can

442
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.519
either learn to breathe underwater or I
can drown. Right. Yeah, and

443
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.640
life is going to happen, So
I think I'd rather learn how to breathe

444
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.279
underwater. I think it's a good, good path too. Now, with

445
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.559
that, let's take our last break. I'm Alice Cortez, your host.

446
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.079
We are on the air with Scott
Wilson, who has had a long career

447
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:23.039
as a professional business management consultant since
nineteen ninety eight. Today, he is

448
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:27.480
navigating a fresh path to purpose,
arising from confronting his own personal challenges through

449
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:33.000
his journey to becoming a grateful,
recovered alcoholic through founding Authentic Success, a

450
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.200
business performance consultancy that helps organizations embrace
the uncomfortable with gratitude and grace to achieve

451
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.640
authentic success. We're conducting this conversation
live from the Kapel Police Department, where

452
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.759
the origins of his new life were
spurred. After the break, we're going

453
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.880
to finish his conversation about really where
his journey is taking him. Next,

454
00:31:48.119 --> 00:32:12.519
stay with us, We'll be right
back. Alise Cortes is a speaker and

455
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:17.680
engagement and development catalyst. She designs
and delivers professional development, leadership and engagement

456
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.480
workshops and can bring her expertise to
your organization. She will help ignite meaningful

457
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:28.920
development within your workforce that will increase
employee engagement, performance and retention. To

458
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.920
learn more or to invite Elise to
speak to your organization, please visit her

459
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:37.640
at www dot Elisecortes dot com.
She would welcome the opportunity to help get

460
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:49.319
your employees working on purpose. This
is working on purpose with Elise Cortes.

461
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:54.880
To reach our program today, send
an email to a lease Alise at Alisecortes

462
00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:01.440
dot com. Now back to working
on Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,

463
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:05.400
and welcome back to working on purpose
if you're just tuning in. My

464
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.079
guest is Scott Wilson, the founder
of Authentic Success, a businesserformance consultancy that

465
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:15.400
helps organizations embrace the uncomfortable with gratitude
and grace to achieve authentic success. To

466
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.440
arrive at this fulfilled juncture, he
navigated first in a long career as a

467
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:22.960
very successful business management consultant and face
down his own alcoholism in service of his

468
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.720
newfound purpose. I'm your host,
Elisee Cortes. So we were talking at

469
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.640
the break Scott that one of the
You've got something that's emerging here for you

470
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.559
and I'd love for you to share
it. You referred to it as as

471
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.119
a big audacious goal that you want
to take on standing in your purpose.

472
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:43.039
Tell us how where the idea came
from and kind of where it is in

473
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:47.359
extermination. So it's still in that's
very early stages, but it's something I

474
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:53.000
have started to kind of talk about
publicly when I was in treatment at Lahasia

475
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:58.680
and they have a place up there
called Serenity Hill where if faith was important

476
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.559
to you, you could go up
for meditation each morning and watch the sunrise

477
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:07.200
and it has an incredible view.
And my family's had some land. It's

478
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:12.000
been in the family going back for
quite some time, and it has an

479
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.639
incredible view from a hill as well. And there's always this still thought of

480
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:21.559
I wonder if we could ever do
anything like that around helping people get a

481
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:25.480
second chance in life through recovery.
So this concept of sober living environment,

482
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.679
sustainable sober living ranch has been germinating
kind of setting out there. Where that's

483
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.519
going to go, I don't know, because it certainly involves my family being

484
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.880
a part of that discussion. And
I know what the person I'm looking at

485
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:45.239
and doing this consulting firm with and
what that might look like. He has

486
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.480
a vision and passion around a retreat
center. So there's a lot of things

487
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.960
that are very similar stewing around,
but we've just kind of started to throw

488
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:57.960
those ideas out to see what doors
open and what that would look like.

489
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.800
You know, my ultimately would love
to be able to help support men who

490
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:07.840
didn't have a place to return to
as easy or the means to return to

491
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.840
is easy, to help give them
a second chance of life. But that

492
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.519
takes not just something that sounds good. That takes a community support, that

493
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.800
takes a faith based community support,
it takes a recovery community support. So

494
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.159
there's a lot of pieces that go
to that and it takes a while for

495
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:29.480
that to come to fruition. But
that's the big goal of is there something

496
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.880
we could do to help really give
men a second shot at life? And

497
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.400
that might come from a different flavors
of both recovery and grief recovery, and

498
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.239
we'll just see where that takes us. But that's kind of the big goal

499
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.719
that's out there seeing what doors God
opens well. So again, standing in

500
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.960
your place a purpose, it's amazing
how things start to show up and your

501
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.760
creativity comes forward and you just start
to see the world through that unique lens

502
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.320
that is your purpose, and it's
just the vista is enormous. You've already

503
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.639
had a conversation with your mom,
You've asked people in town about how you

504
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:07.679
might be able to handle labor and
such have and my mom and sister have

505
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.920
visited about it, and there's certainly
more conversations to be had around that.

506
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.400
But you know, as I've talked
to some key members of the community,

507
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.880
it's in They're like, yes,
we could embrace that and it's a need

508
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.599
that they see. You know,
we'll just see how that door opens and

509
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:28.679
where it goes. But certainly anything
that I do from a professional perspective,

510
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.760
I want there to be that side
of it that's giving back to me.

511
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.880
They go hand in hand. It's
not just about a career and job anymore.

512
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:44.599
It's about purpose. And that purpose
is both helping organizations and people embrace

513
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:49.440
that uncomfortable and that change and growth
and what real authentic success looks like,

514
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.400
which is different depending on the situation. But it's also in giving back to

515
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:59.199
the community and what I know,
which is addiction and recovery and the support

516
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.000
that's needed for peace coming through that
journey. So to acknowledge a couple of

517
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.800
things that you're saying, and this
is something that I addressed in the talk

518
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.599
that you were in, but for
our listeners who haven't heard me say this

519
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:12.119
before, I do an awful lot
of reading around the space of meaning,

520
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.679
inspiration, passion, purpose. I'm
writing my own book about this. And

521
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.400
Aaron Hurst is somebody that I've had
on my radio show and I really respect

522
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.800
his thought leadership and his view is
that in order for something to count as

523
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.760
a purpose. It us have three
ingredients, three essential ingredients. One is

524
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.880
we need to be serving others beyond
ourselves, which is what you're talking about.

525
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.079
In the process of being in service
of the purpose, that we are

526
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.480
personally growing. You are certainly growing, You are stretching way out of your

527
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:43.039
comfort zone and getting into all kinds
of things. And then the third requirement

528
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.639
is that we are building a community
in service of our purpose. All of

529
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.440
those qualify for you, yes,
And really that's what I've learned through my

530
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.800
recovery program. Part of my sobriety
being able to maintain that sobriety right.

531
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.960
It's a twenty four hour, one
day at a time thing that comes from

532
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:07.239
constantly looking in the mirror and growing
and acknowledging what my weaknesses are and trying

533
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.079
to improve those and strengthen them.
But it's also in giving back and helping

534
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.800
others. And I can't do this
alone, you know, I've got to

535
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.320
be I've got to give what's been
given to me and to help open that

536
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.039
door for other people to point them
down the path. Some people choose to

537
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.599
do that privately, some choose to
do it publicly. You know, this

538
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.360
to me is just the calling that
I've been on for a long time.

539
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.679
I just finally found the purpose what
that looks like. And hallelujah, as

540
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:37.199
we like to say, right,
hallelujah. So for our listeners who didn't

541
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.480
get didn't get to hear what we
talked about when you and I were in

542
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:45.159
the conference together on the twelfth of
April, I'd love for you to contrast

543
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.159
for us, what did it feel
like for you as a human being walking

544
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:51.840
the planet as a very successful business
consultant, suffering in the alcoholic place that

545
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.400
you were living and where you're living
today. Contrasts those two states for us?

546
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.840
They well, it's night and day
difference. Well, I certainly had

547
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:10.159
success and you know, prestige,
you know whatever. My ego was way

548
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:15.800
out of check. There was things
and stuff. There was no happiness,

549
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.280
you know, relationships weren't good in
any aspect of my life. And we're

550
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.239
just you know, being decimated by
my alcoholism. There was no peace.

551
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:30.239
I did not get a peaceful night
dress for years, just from the torment

552
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:36.559
of what I was doing, the
guilt and shame, the disease and just

553
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.719
trying to keep all that at bay. And you just get to a point

554
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:43.840
you can anymore, you know,
and everybody's bottom looks different that happened to

555
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:49.840
be mine today. It's recognizing that
I'm not in control and I don't have

556
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.119
to have all the answers, and
that I'm not perfect and that's okay,

557
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:59.000
but it's progress not perfection, and
that that's something that I learned in recovery

558
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:05.320
that really sticks with me as I
constantly need to be making progress and trusting

559
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.800
God has a plan for me.
I don't have to have all the answers

560
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.239
for that. I just need to
step forward and what's in front of me

561
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.199
and try to do the best I
can. He'll meet me and take care

562
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.880
of the rest. And it's very
nerve wracking because it's not a space I'm

563
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:23.920
used to at all. But every
step I take, he manages to reveal

564
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:27.519
a little bit more and the door
opens and the other doors open and I

565
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.679
just kind of keep walking through them. I'm glad that you have been able

566
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.960
to find peace in this some people. I find peace in it too.

567
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.360
I also find a lot of energy
and joy. I mean, it's just

568
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:42.360
it's a beautiful place to be.
Yes, you're vulnerable, as we talked

569
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.000
about before, because you're really putting
out who you really are out there into

570
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.920
the world, and you know,
it's as if you're not wearing any clothing

571
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.480
at all, and so there's all
of that in the package. But on

572
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.320
balance, for me, I wouldn't
go back to not knowing this. In

573
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.239
fact, you can't undo it on
once you know it. You can choose

574
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.599
not to live your per but you
can't undo it once you know it.

575
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:07.840
I think that's and it's been a
journey, you know, I'll go back

576
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.159
to progress, not perfection. I
started with doing writings. I started with

577
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.480
meeting with Mac Tristan, and then
you know, and then certainly carrying that

578
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:19.760
on with Danny and again those are
the people from here for the police department,

579
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.840
and then you just stepping out and
getting involved in some of the community

580
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:27.920
organizations. And you know, the
year ago I was asked to speak at

581
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:31.199
our church as part of a resurrection
series telling resurrection stories, and mine was

582
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:37.719
this whole journey. It has just
constantly evolved into this thing that's driving me.

583
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.199
And you know, when you wake
up with purpose and it's not knowing

584
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.119
what house is going to unfold.
And what I've figured out is just go

585
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.639
do it. Quit trying to figure
out how it's going to unfold. Because

586
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:52.920
yes, very good. And as
I've done that and doors have just opened,

587
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.480
and here we said today that is
such a great pearl of wisdom right

588
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.719
there, Scott for our listeners is
so I try to figure it out,

589
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.599
Just trust the process, step into
the space and see what opens. Look

590
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.039
and see what opens, and be
willing to get a hand when somebody gives

591
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:08.760
you a hand. Ye. Well, as a friend tell this weekend and

592
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.400
he's like, Scott, don't don't
overthink it, just go do it.

593
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.400
My background is is I could overthink
it, and I need the perfect PowerPoint

594
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:20.679
presentation, and I need the purpose
plan and what's the project plan? And

595
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.760
how are we going to go execute
this? And it's like, you know,

596
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.519
I really don't. I just need
to go take each day as it

597
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.519
comes and certainly need to work hard
at it, you know, which just

598
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.360
started doing and putting that and have
a plan. But as you kind of

599
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.920
put it out there to the universe, things just kind of tend to happen.

600
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:38.320
They do. And a couple of
things that I really want to iterate

601
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.599
a little bit of time that we
have left here is the path that you're

602
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.599
on in terms of really standing,
being willing to be called into your purpose

603
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:51.440
and accept it, accept the assignment, basically accept the role. One of

604
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.719
the things that we know about well
being is that we need a healthy tension

605
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:58.559
between who we are today and who
we aspire to be in the future.

606
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.079
That helps us, That gives something
to be pulled toward, to grow toward,

607
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.119
and it keeps us in a place
that is a positive sort of tension.

608
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.039
Absent that we get to be a
little we get apathetic. And you

609
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.280
know, you and I have met
many people in our lives and so of

610
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.199
you listeners who are going through lives
desperate for some kind of change, but

611
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.840
they just don't know what it is. You have had the courage, as

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our people on Facebook have said,
to step into this space. And it

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does take courage to do this.
Can you say more about that? Yeah,

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And it's you know, and I'll
go back to I would not have

615
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envisioned four or five years ago being
able to do this. It took little

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steps at a time, but having
the faith to trust that there is a

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plan, I just need to go
take one step at a time, and

618
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that journey has been one step at
a time. If you told me I

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was going to write a book.
A year ago, I would have told

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you you were crazy, that I've
had enough stuff, and people could feedback

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of hey, you really need to
put this and publish it, you know,

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And there's even somebody my mom's every
sense, And when Scott's ready,

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you'll tell him to call. So
it's just when you start and you start

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to get comfortable with that, you
grow to a point that whatever that journey

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may look like for you, you'll
look back and go, wow, I

626
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never saw that coming how I.
If I had, I probably would have

627
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run the other way. This is
hard, I don't want to do.

628
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Yeah, this is uncomfortable. But
what I see now is to keep the

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positives in it outweigh that the uncomfortableness. And it's not about it's not about

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me. It's about giving people hope
that somebody has a plan for you.

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And it looks different for everybody,
and everybody's journey is different. But it's

632
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okay, you know, it's okay
to stand up and say here I am,

633
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and to want to move forward and
to get help, because that's that's

634
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another For a long time, I
didn't get help, and it was the

635
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guilt and shame that was holding me
back along with the disease, you know,

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and I did not. I had
to get pushed to that breaking point.

637
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And it was a breaking point,
you know. I could have chosen

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to pass. And I'm grateful for
the path I picked, because if I

639
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had chosen the other one, you
would have had to come visit me over

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the Capel Cemetery right now. I
wouldn't be here today. Well, I

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wanted to talk about that really quick
because, as you may remember, the

642
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way that I opened the presentation when
I opened for the International Association Business Communicators

643
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was what will you do with your
one precious life? Yes, and think

644
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:31.320
about that, you could have literally
finished your life in the in the whirlwind

645
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wreck that you were twirling in,
and that would have been that would have

646
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:37.000
been the summer toll of your life. That said, that's what you have

647
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to show for it? Now?
You know you have this ability to be

648
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able to create a whole different space
and to utilize those beautiful, precious moments

649
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that we get in a wholly different
way. And it does take that intentional

650
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.360
place to step into that world to
say I will I accept this, I'll

651
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do this. It's the hard,
It's the hard right over the easy.

652
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.960
Wrong, as Nick Craig likes to
say, and it takes something and I

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applaud that you were doing it.
Thank you well it. You know.

654
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It's I'm grateful for the people that
God has put my path, like you

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and Danny and others that have encouraged
me in what I needed when I needed

656
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.519
it. We're there and that's part
of what has been Keep taking the next

657
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.760
step in the journey, you know. It's God meets me where I'm at

658
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and gets me ready for what's next. I'll never be ready. I just

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have to do it. I love
that, and that's so great for our

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00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.239
listeners. We're so closer. There's
a couple of things that I want to

661
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:35.719
ask you really quick. So what
has been the most precious prized moment for

662
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.000
you along this journey? If there
if there is just one that you can

663
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:45.760
isolate and there's there's severalment. I
think the biggest thing is that I am

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able to be present for my kids
and to be a dad. Wow.

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And the gift of presents, yep, because I didn't have that for a

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00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:58.960
long time. Beautiful. Okay.
The other thing that I want to talk

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00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:00.639
about really quick, which you just
which you just surface, is so important

668
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.679
for our listeners, those of you
listeners who are starting to get this idea

669
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.480
that maybe you should listen to your
purpose. Maybe that little sniggling feeling that

670
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.039
you're feeling inside, maybe you want
to listen to do something about it.

671
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When you do, and I do, want you to get help. You

672
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.039
can't do it by yourself probably and
get around people who are going to or

673
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.639
who are going that you can surround
yourself with who can give you help versas

674
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.039
telling you that you can't do it. There'll be a lot of people that

675
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:28.000
tell you you're crazy. But to
be able to be around people who are

676
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.000
looking for ways to help you versa
telling you all the ways that you can't

677
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.400
do it, It is the crowd
that you want, right And I found

678
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.519
once I reached out, there were
a lot of people that wanted to help,

679
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.559
but it took me speaking out,
speaking out, you know. So

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one of the things I wanted to
mention today, you know, if there

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00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.880
are people out there that are struggling
with addiction issues or suicide is don't be

682
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.119
afraid to reach out to the best
places you can reach out are the National

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00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.639
Addiction Hotline. The number to that
is one eight hundred sixty six two four

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00:47:54.760 --> 00:48:00.000
three five seven, or the National
Suicide Hotline, which is one eight hundred

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00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.440
two seven three eight two five five, because there are people that want to

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00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.159
help, and you don't have to
hide in that guilt and shame. It's

687
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:12.960
okay, and you can have hope
and have a future beyond what you're struggling

688
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:16.199
with. That's so beautiful, Scott. And with that, I want to

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00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.519
thank you so much for coming on
the show, for having the courage to

690
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.440
step into your purpose, coming on
the show, having the courage to call

691
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.159
me at Chief Barton's request, not
even knowing who the heck I was or

692
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.119
what I wanted, and here you
are in the radio show. So thank

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00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.280
you for sharing your gift, your
purpose and stepping into your light. Thank

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00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.880
you for having me. So you
want to learn more about Scott in his

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00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.760
journey and the work he's up to
today, you can go and check out

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00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:44.599
his new website. It's the wscott
dot Com. One more time, the

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w scott dot Com. Last week, if you missed the live show,

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you can always catch to be recorded
podcast. We were on the air with

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00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.000
Diane McLay. She is a personal
transformation coach from Portland, Oregon. We

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talked about how our observations on what
is needed in women's thought leadership today have

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prompted us to create that Women on
Purpose Thought Leadership Summit in Portland, Oregon,

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in September twenty nineteen. Next week, we'll be on the air with

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Rabbi Daniel Cohen, who is the
author of What Will They Say About You

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00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:15.119
When You're Gone? Creating a Life
of Legacy, will be zeroing in on

705
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.880
his concept of reverse engineering the lives
we really want promise us to be a

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00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.000
compelling conversation. See you there.
Remember that work is at least one third

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of our life, so let's work
on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this

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week's program. Be sure to tune
in to Working on Purpose, featuring your

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host Alis Cortes, each week on
the Voice America Empowerment Channel. This week,

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find your life's purpose at work