Never Stop Growing and Learning

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be

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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want

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Working on purpose now. Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome

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back to the Working on Purpose Program
pas or Jinia again this week. I'm

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your host, doctor Release Cortes.
John You lie from Dallas, Texas,

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which is home based for me.
By way of introduction. If you don't

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know me, I'm a management consultant
specializing in meaning and purpose, organizational logotherapist,

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inspirational speaker, social scientist, and
author. There are many ways we

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can work together. I encourage you
to go to one of my sites at

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least Coortes dot com, orgustodashnow dot
com and learn how. There's also some

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free resources I've put there for you
to download and use as you like.

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If you've been tuning in for a
while. You know this program is a

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thought leadership series that enlightens and inspires
listeners and viewers with insights from distinguished business

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leaders, authors and subject matter experts. By listening in, you're part of

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the movement to create inspirational leaders and
in enlivening workplaces where we can thrive and

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do business that betters the world.
Glad you're here with this For today's program

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is Renee Sirmac, a self esteem
expert and author who is on a mission

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to help others lead an extraordinary life
by making their self esteem how much they

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like themselves their number one priority.
She accomplishes this through her dynamic Nobleshit coaching

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methods serving as a catalyst for lifelong
change in people's lives, and her book

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How to Be Your Biggest Fan,
The Value and Power of Self Esteem.

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We'll be talking about some key points
from her book, my own experience as

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a participant in the personal transformation work
she does, and learn how people actually

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change and grow. She joined us
today from Phoenix, Arizona. Renee,

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welcome to Working on Purpose. Thank
you so much. I'm delighted to be

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here today. Isn't it so fantastic? We're both geeks in the personal transformation

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space, and I get to learn
from you and share you with the world.

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I'm so happy to have you,
Renee. I'm so happy to be

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here, and you know, the
day we met as a pleasure for me

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and my future, and I look
forward to all of our discussions me too,

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and for listeners. I do like
to tell you how I find my

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guests. I picked up Renee.
She was minding her own business. I

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was at a PSI basic seminar in
Dallas of June of twenty twenty and Renee

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was there helping to facilitate and helping
us getting going. And I just was

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immediately grounded to her energy and what
she was up to in the world and

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wanted to share her. So that's
how it started. And so Renee,

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I always like to know why in
the world are you doing this work?

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So how did you get into personal
transformation? Why this space? Why not

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accounting, marketing, finance. Well, I was on track to I was

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attending a naturopathic medical school at one
point, so it wasn't my mission to

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be in the personal growth industry.
However, I took this seminar twenty two

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years ago. A three day Personal
Growth seminar, the one that you just

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described taking last June, and it
changed the whole trajectory of my life.

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And it's kind of my mission to
for as many people as possible to experience

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personal growth in general. Yet also
PSI seminars, I think that, you

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know, we do the best job
in the industry. And I took this

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class when I was twenty seven years
old and I was a cocktail waitress and

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my self esteem, you know,
was not so great. And the results

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that I had at twenty seven years
old fit my beliefs about myself then,

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which were not so great, just
like my results now fit my beliefs which

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are very different. MM. Two
things so one, since we both work

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in the personal transformation space, there
is nothing like getting to witness and be

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part of seeing somebod these molecules change
in front of your eyes as they transform.

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Yes, yes, it is an
honor and a privilege, and it's

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so exciting to watch and be a
part of. And and I mean,

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I know I remember my aha moments
of you know, realizing my capability when

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when you know, five minutes before
or an hour before, I didn't know

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about it. And so when I
see people's eyes, you know, open

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up in the wonder of like Holy
Cow. I had no idea. I

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had no idea that I could do
that. I had no idea that I

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was this capable. I had no
idea that my future is in my hands

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based on my beliefs and my choices. Mm hmm. Yeah. And the

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second point I wanted to make is, at least for the last eight years,

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I have systematically invested in some kind
of a fairly important investment in myself

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each year to catalyze my own learning
and development. And of course I put

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that out for our listeners and viewers
because I believe in investing in my own

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development and I want all of you
to do the same. So I wanted

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to be sure and say that because
both of you, you know, you

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went through this yourself some twenty seven
years ago. I've just gone through it

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recently this weekend and then back in
June as well as other programs, and

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I think what you're doing is really
amazing, and which is why I wanted

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to share it. So now you're
welcome. And so now I want to

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talk about what you've done in your
book, which I think is phenomenal.

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That you've isolated a singular concept and
really explained it. So you've written a

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book about the value and power of
self esteem. So for our viewers who

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have not read it cover to cover
as I have, why is so important?

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Oh my god, it's the number
one most important thing because it is

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the number one driver to all of
your results, whether it be money results,

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reallylationship results, health results, you
name it. It is directly correlated

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to your level of self esteem or
how much you like yourself or what I

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call your self estimate. You know, your opinion is the only one that

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matters. We make it oftentimes about
what other people think. And yet you

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know, if there is one brilliant
place for you to invest time and money,

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it is in your self esteem because
you are unable to detach from your

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self esteem. You know, it's
not a guarantee. You know who you're

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going to be around and the relationships
and the experiences, but what is guaranteed

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is that your self esteem will be
along for the ride. And so everywhere

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you go, whether it's every money
making opportunity, every relationship, every vacation,

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every yoga class, like, there's
you and your self esteem running the

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results. And so the most brilliant
place to invest time in money is making

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that the biggest and best it can
be. Like, I like to think

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about me and my self esteem running
down the beach like a Viagra commercial,

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you know, and people are like
and like, we're hand in hand,

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and it's me and my self esteem, and my self esteem is the number

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one priority. And people say things
like, well what about your husband.

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I go listen. My husband is
the lucky guy that gets to be with

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us a couple of hours a day. Yet I have to make my self

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esteem the number one priority so that
I'm bringing the biggest, best version of

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me to the party. And when
I'm doing that, then my husband wins

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and my eight year old daughter wins. However, if I make them the

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priority number one, it looks like
it's giving, it looks really great.

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Yet they don't win in the long
run because they're not getting the biggest,

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best version of me, because I'm
not putting my self esteem first, like

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truly walking this earth, liking myself, being proud of myself, having respect

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for myself. It's the most important
thing because it drives all other results.

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So chrisp I love that, and
I love the idea, the actual the

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image of you and your self esteem
gallivanting down that beats like Viagara commercial.

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I love that. That's no one's
ever going to forget that, right,

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That's perfect. And I also like
what you've said to in your book,

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which really resonated with me, is
I forge And you correct me if I

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don't serve this upright, But you've
said something that how you dress is a

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direct indication of your level of self
esteem. Yeah, I mean, your

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level of self esteem affects what you
eat, It affects how you dress,

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It affects who you surround yourself with, it affects how I mean, it

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affects everything. Mm hmm. It
shows up, as you say, everywhere

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we go, in every instance.
And I just think that's so powerful for

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our listeners to get right out of
the gate, which is why I wanted

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to start with that. So then
the next thing that we have to talk

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about, which is really profound and
very sobering, So bear with us,

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listeners and viewers. This is going
to perhaps blow your mind. But one

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of the things that you talk about
in your book and we talked about in

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the session, of course, is
that most of our beliefs were and by

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the time we're nine years old,
and yet of course that we rely on

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these in something like an autopilot format
to run our whole entire life. That

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is just scary as all get out, it is. I mean, you

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know, when we were born,
we were clean slates, anything as possible.

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And then as we start growing up, we start having experiences, we

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start having examples around us, and
we start and we start creating our belief

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system. We have a belief about
everything, and so by the time we're

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nine years old, eighty percent of
our thoughts, habits, thinking, everything

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that we're going to use to be
successful as an adult is eighty percent of

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it is set up by the time
we are nine years old, and then

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the ninety five percent is set up
by the time that we are eighteen years

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old. And so by the when
we're eighteen, we have this belief system,

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and then we go out into the
world to be right about our belief

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system. Yet none of us are
right because all of us had a very

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limited view of all things possible.
And when you think about you know that

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you were nine years old, eighty
percent is built. And if you look

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at you and your life when you
were nine years old, and what was

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happening around you. What are some
of the beliefs that you could have ended

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up with as a nine year old
That people are trustworthy, people are not

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trustworthy, that the world is a
scary place, that the world is extraordinary,

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and you know, and so depending
on what beliefs you adopted, they

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are absolutely affecting what's happening in the
world today. Because the nine year old

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and you decided something about you and
money, and it's quite possible that you're

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playing it out today, or the
nine year old and you decided something about

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you and relationships and you could still
be playing it out today. So for

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the people that are listening, listeners
and viewers, if you haven't done a

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lot of work on this personal transformation
or even personal growth, or even investigating

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self awareness and understanding what you do
believe, this is profoundly important work to

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do. And what I want to
go into next rene is this notion of

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a limiting belief and how they show
up in our life. So this is

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probably I would say, some of
the most important work that I that I've

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done on myself and that help others
do as well. So for our listeners

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and viewers who don't understand a limiting
belief or a limiting view. Help us

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understand that, and it's important.
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a negative, repetitive thought. You
know, a belief that you have about

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you that is not so positive.
Right, it's you know, I am

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short, or I am tall,
or I am you know, usually starts

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with an I am statement, right, I am lazy, I procrastinate,

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I and so and so when you
think about you know, I often ask

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people do you talk to yourselves?
Right? And most people go, yeah,

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I talk to myself. And I
say, would you ever let anybody

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talk to you the way that you
talk to yourself? And of course the

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answer is no, I would never. And so I imagine that there's this

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head that sits on her shoulder and
it's go in twenty four hours a day,

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It's like did The question is what
are you saying to yourself all day

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long? And is it in support
of going to do great things? Or

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are you cutting yourself off at the
knees, you know, two hundred times

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a day, and most of it
unconsciously. So we're not usually aware of

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the limiting beliefs that we're saying to
ourselves. However, when you think about

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when you make a mistake. You
know what's automatic? Is there a like

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you know, you stink, you
should have done better? Somebody else put

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a blood Da da da da dah. Right, So those are all the

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dialogues that we have with ourselves,
and how we speak to ourselves absolutely affects

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everything about what we do. And
so just even talking nicer to ourself or

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being aware of some of the negative
things, the negative limiting beliefs that we

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have, because you know, if
we say them often enough, they're good,

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they're going to run the show.
Mm hmm. So listeners and viewers,

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I want you to think about that
for just a second. What is

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it that? What is that im
statement that you tell yourself over and over

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again. I will absolutely admit that
for me, one of the biggest I

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am statements limiting beliefs that I tell
myself that I have to intervene in is

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I'm stupid, that I am so
stupid? How can I come up with

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that? So think about that.
If I'm telling myself I'm stupid, how

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much is that getting me where I
want to go? So I want you

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to think about that, listeners and
viewers, this is really important work.

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And then the next thing I want
to cover, and then we've got a

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couple of questions here in the queue
that I want to quey up for you,

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Renee. This is really I find
this incredibly powerful that you say in

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your book. It's so profound to
consider that you say the quickest way to

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create your extraordinary future is to give
up your way. Say more about that.

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Yes, well, we are walking
habits. From the moment we wake

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up to the moment we go to
bed. Everything that we do is a

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habit. We have a one way
of doing everything. Somewhere along the line,

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it became our way, however,
way back when we had a lot

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of options, and then we made
a choice, and we did it over

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and over and over and over and
over till all the other positiveblities just kind

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of dissipated away, and there was
only one way to do it, and

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it's our way. And we like
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way and the most effective way,
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way out of many possibilities that we
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way or the most effective way.
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way of doing things, we miss
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the key to experiencing great relationships is
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up control. There's some people that
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or business, and so what that
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there are other ways to get things
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ways to get things done. And
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get committed to the end result,
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the achievement of the goal, and
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you give up your way and the
mechanism, Now you're open to hundreds,

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if not thousands of other ways and
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And so one of my favorite quotes
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or you can be right, not
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when you're more focused on having a
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give up your way and your need
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for you to have great relationships and
how often you're right? Mm hmm,

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beautifully said, So so important.
There's gold in those words, ladies and

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gentlemen. Okay, a couple questions
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I was going to say, it
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most challenging things we will ever do
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we're really tied to it. We
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how can we find what drive us? How can we find what drives us?

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to uncover what drives you. It's
they're designed for you to see what lights

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you up, what holds you back? You know, what do you want

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you know with your limited time on
this planet? Like who are you?

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What are you about? What do
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your future vision? Right? And
so starting with uh, you know,

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in the future in my vision or
my legacy, like what do I want

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to leave behind? And then it
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once you define what it is that
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let's have our first break here.
On that note, I'm Alice Corte as

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your host. We went there with
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and author. Was on a mission
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making their self esteem, that is, how much they like themselves their number

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one priority. And those listeners and
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The name of her book is How
to Be Your Biggest Fan, The Value

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and Power of High Self Esteem.
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the important, really important principles in
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going to talk about my experience of
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with us, we'll be right back. Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant

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specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational
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for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that

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elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment
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to invite Elise to speak to your
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is Working on Purpose with doctor Releisecretes. To reach our program today or open

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a conversation with Alise, send an
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com. Now back to Working on
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and welcome back to Working on Purpose. I have an announcement to share with

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you. In this recent pandemic,
I had a baby. Did you know

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that, Renee. It's actually called
Purpose Ignited, How Inspiring Leaders Unleashed Passion,

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Innovate Cause. So it's a book
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was so fun to create this,
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inspiration and purpose. So I'm happy
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just joining the program today. My
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esteem expert and author who's on a
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by making their self esteem, that
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number one priority. I'm your host, doctor LEAs Cortes for this segment.

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Renee, I want to get into
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really help people personally transform. And
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back from the Life Success course seven
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amazing, and I want to get
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happened there so that our listeners and
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through something like that and if there's
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own value to be in service of
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that I find really interesting is when
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of this course really, in my
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fact that it's experiential learning. So
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we mean by experiential learning and why
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personal transformation? Oh? Yes,
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be lectured to for days and days
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information, yet until you experience it
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you know, it's interesting. Even
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in the seven day class, the
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and you're listening, you go,
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minutes later, you're on the other
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not only does it apply to you, it applies to you twenty three times

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a day. Yet nine minutes ago
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nothing to do with you in your
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and move through it right and all
of the it's possible that limiting beliefs come

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up, or it's possible that fear
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the best things that comes out of
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different relationship with fear. Right able
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allowing it to stop you in your
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great and extraordinary had fear along with
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taking steps forward, pretty soon you're
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smile on your face, with all
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that was to be bigger than you. So so incredibly useful and illuminating,

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Life Success course, is so illuminating. I got so much information about myself,

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and I've done a lot of work
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this is my first rodeo, and
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set this up for us from a
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to the ranches, you told us
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push your buttons, and you said
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our resistance. And I wasn't quite
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but that's what happened. And so
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I come to understand in my purpose
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a corese objective human development advantage point, why do you think it's important for

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us to understand what pushes our buttons? Well, any anytime there that you

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get a button pushed, it is
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area in your life that you haven't
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pushed. Because every time a button
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power, putting it on a platter
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pushed your buttons and say, why
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couple hours while I react to my
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the ways that you can learn the
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never miss an opportunity to examine one
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get extremely curious as to why what
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at the topic, because what's happening
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your belief and you don't like it. And so when you get a button

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pushed and you start to react,
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react. You know, having to
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a cup of coffee, Getting angry
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react, to notice and to start
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am I reacting? What is this
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you get answers back. And when
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the edge off. It's like when
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person reminds me of my mother in
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your power away and you can look
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to find something great about them because
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with my mother in law because they're
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right co Imagine listeners and viewers,
if you could let go, if

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you could not be run by that
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difference that would make in your life. It's incredible. And so for me,

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Renee, I don't know if we
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wanted to focus on by attending this
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is really focused on iterating a newer, more scalable, pandemic friendly business model

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that continued to let me honor my
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work that I do, so that's
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the things that was so interesting for
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two, we were asked to talk
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crappy in our lives, what crappy
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at first I didn't really have much
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for me that way. So I
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we should do, I think,
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intently to as my fellow participants shared
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and compassion, and as they went
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stories opened my own heart and then
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what was happening for me, And
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tears, and then I could open
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me, and I got more present
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listeners and viewers who don't know what
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how do we get it? Well, a program, you know, is

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kind of equal to what we were
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and they're usually negative limiting beliefs.
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stupid. One of my biggest programs
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smart enough, or attractive enough,
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want to know is that once you
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get rid of it. However,
you can minimize it. And you want

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to know that the reason why you
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to survive. Right, our programs
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us to survive. Right, they
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back into relationships to survive, or
to play a smaller game so that we

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don't get hurt out there to survive. And so the great news is we've

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all survived, and now it might
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in order to start thriving, you
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you're not able to ever make them
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started personal growth twenty two years ago, my negative programs beliefs about me were

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larger than life. And so in
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actively working on You know which pile
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that says I'm not enough, or
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whichever one I feed is the one
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pilot or unconscious ninety five percent of
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if you've been you know, putting
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for thirty years, now we have
to get to work and putting evidence in

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the other pile that says that you
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take it from super huge and minimize
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those limiting beliefs are no longer running
your life, and some more positive beliefs

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about you, like I am en
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So for listeners and viewers, this
might be some of the first time

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you've ever heard some of this idea
of a program running you, et cetera.

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And this is it might just seem
really out there. It's incredibly powerful,

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useful when you recognize just what that
thing is. So you've already started

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to talk about this renee because you're
starting to talk about possibility. But again,

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what I want to make sure our
listeners get from our conversation is something

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a little bit actionable as they walk
away before they sign up to register for

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a session. And so you know, once we recognize this program at there's

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power first and knowing what's the program, But then the second thing is you

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started to speak to it. What
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we actually want in life rather than
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it's about well, yes, and
the awareness you then can do something different.

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And so there's nothing like evidence to
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conversations with myself every day all day
and so even doing this show right,

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there's there's it's usually when I'm in
the shower that little voice comes up that

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goes, who do you think you
are? You can't do this right?

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voice. However I recognize it and I'll

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talk to him. I'll go listen. I don't have time for you today.

409
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I have something important to do with
Alise. And if you really want

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to know, you know, I
have this piece of evidence and this one

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and this one and this one and
this one and this one. So it's

412
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you got to get busy producing evidence
like even if you're scared to get up

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and do it anyway, because then
there's one piece of evidence, and if

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that wasn't bigger than you, then
maybe there's some other things that are not

415
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bigger than you. And then you
get up and you go do that,

416
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and now you got two pieces and
so on and so on, and at

417
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:11.240
some point you have so much evidence
that it's irrefutable and you can tell your

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programs where to go. Mm hmm. I love that. And that's just

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so that's extremely actionable. And then
the other thing that you said first before

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we even went into the session,
that I want to talk through a little

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bit here today because it was so
powerful, is what you said to us

422
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.799
on the call before we went to
the ranches. You said, you know,

423
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imagine that, you know, when
you first get a button pushed,

424
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maybe it'll take you four days or
something to kind of come back around to

425
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.680
overcome or deal with the effect that
your buttons have been pushed, you've hoffed

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off or whatever, you're not talking
about it, and then maybe becomes two

427
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days, and then maybe you're able
to get it down to one day or

428
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a half a day. But the
opportunity, as you told us, was

429
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to be able to have something literally
hit your button and then for you to

430
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:53.720
quickly recover and not have it have
you. And so one of the things

431
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that you said is you said,
our job is to minimize the amount of

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buttons that control us. That's one
of the things you say in the book.

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And what you resist is in your
is in control of you, you

434
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say, And I just thought that
was so powerful. So would you speak

435
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more to this notion of these how
these buttons work on us and our ability

436
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:17.640
to handle the resistance piece? Yes, absolutely, guys, you listen to

437
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.240
so many things that I said.
At least, I'm so excited, and

438
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.400
I rend your book cover to cover, I know. And so I mean,

439
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.000
I think people can really relate to
catching themselves days later and wishing they

440
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could go back to the moment of
the fight or the argument or the confrontation

441
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:37.200
or whatever happened, and they would
do it different. And so to be

442
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:42.000
able to catch yourself and to be
able to know yourself so well that you

443
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can positively interfere when it is happening
is the ultimate goal. Not a day

444
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.559
after it happens, not even an
hour after it happens. However, you

445
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.319
got to practice and practice and practice, because you'll start to even notice what

446
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.599
your body feels like in it.
And so if you're in tune, you

447
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.000
go, oh, oh, I'm
starting to get that feeling. Oh it's

448
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.839
happening. There's a button being pushed. And then you can even stop and

449
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.480
go, I like, there was
a button being pushed right then, And

450
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.599
so let's have a conversation so I
can figure out in the moment why I

451
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:17.039
was about to start reacting or getting
annoyed or getting angry, and so that

452
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.440
like again, the best person to
be so curious, Like I want you

453
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.480
to be fascinated by you, Like
why do you do the things that you

454
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do? Why do you react over
here and not over here? Why is

455
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:32.279
it hard to accept feedback? Why
you know, did I have the need

456
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.319
to make my husband wrong last night? Like why? And when you ask

457
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.720
all those questions, you'll get answers
back. And then all of those answers

458
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are like shaving your buttons down.
I mean, some people have buttons that

459
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.279
stick out so far that people bump
against them just walking by, right,

460
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:51.559
they get offended by by a look
or a comment or something like that.

461
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.960
And so to be a great leader
of self is to shave your buttons down,

462
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.400
like I think I have an analogy
of like sand paper, that you're

463
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.519
taking the sand paper and you're shaving
those buttons down such that they're not protruding

464
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.359
out, such that nobody knocks against
them, such that there's no reason to

465
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:13.440
hand your power away. And it
feels so good to stop it in the

466
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:17.720
moment and to go I just positively
interfered with my unconscious you know, with

467
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.640
my automatic pilot. I was about
to go on autopilot and get really upset

468
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.079
or do what I normally do,
a predictable habit, and I was able

469
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.839
to stop myself in the moment.
However, first, before you can stop

470
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:35.119
yourself in the moment, you have
to have a lot of failures of figuring

471
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.480
it out after the fact and not
in the moment. Right, And so

472
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all listeners of viewers, let me
translate this for you if I know,

473
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:44.759
this is a lot to take in, because Renee knows a lot about this,

474
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.359
but let me just bring it home
for you, just to make it

475
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a little bit easier and impalpable.
So what's the net of this. This

476
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.839
is going to change and improve your
relationships, It's going to improve your results

477
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:58.160
in life and it work to be
more effective. Like so, if you're

478
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.079
not being run by your buttons,
be in pushed, you can be in

479
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.359
the moment and connected to someone and
actually have the relationship that you actually want

480
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.759
and to be the person that you
want to be in the world and have

481
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.880
the results that you want. That's
why we do this work. It's worth

482
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.319
it. It's fantastic. Renee,
so glad to be talking to you.

483
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Let's grab our second break. I'm
Elise Cortez, your host. We're in

484
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.240
there with Renee Sirmac. She's a
self esteem expert and author who was on

485
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.559
a mission to help others lead into
extraordinary life by making their self esteem,

486
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.640
which is how they like themselves,
their number one priority. She's the author

487
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.720
of How to Be Your Biggest Fan, The Value and Power of high Self

488
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.480
Esteem. Stay with us, We'll
be right back. Doctor Elise Cortes is

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a management consultant specializing in meaning and
purpose and inspirational speaker and author. She

490
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:46.440
helps companies visioneer for greater purpose among
stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning

491
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:52.799
infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment within the workforce. To

492
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:58.240
learn more or to invite Elise to
speak to your organization, please visit her

493
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:02.039
at elisecortes dot com. Let's talk
about how to get your employees working on

494
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:14.559
purpose. This is Working on Purpose
with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our

495
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.039
program today or open a conversation with
Alise, send an email to a lease

496
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:31.800
Alise at elisecortes dot com. Now
back to working on Purpose. Thanks for

497
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:36.159
staying with us and welcome back to
working on Purpose. I have another announcement

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00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:37.440
for you, and that is that
in the fall of Lust three, we

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actually announced the Gusto Now e learning
platform. It's a transformation and e learning

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00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.920
platform that has my signature course Finally
Inspired Living and Leading from Purpose on it,

501
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.400
as well as some other professional development
programs. And we do them in

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English, Spanish and Portuguese. Those
are my languages. I love them.

503
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:58.119
I do offer a twenty percent discount
to listeners and when you check out,

504
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.079
you just use the code WOP twenty. I can't wait to see you in

505
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.280
class. It's so much fun to
actually do this now. We don't actually

506
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.360
have physical boundaries. We just actually
do this together online. It's amazing.

507
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.119
If you're just tuning in, my
guess is Renee Seramacs. She's a self

508
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:14.599
esteem expert and author who is on
a mission to help others lead an extraordinary

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00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.559
life by making their self esteem their
number one priority. So where we left

510
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.800
off here was I wanted to get
into next is how we can actually change

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and grow. That's the focus of
this last segment here, Rene. So,

512
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you know, a lot of people, as you well know, don't

513
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necessarily believe that people can change.
They think that they can't grow. And

514
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.360
of course you and I wouldn't be
doing the work that we do if we

515
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.800
believe that, right. So I
want to get into some of the things

516
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.480
that you say in your book about
that, and I find this so encouraging

517
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.679
and empowering what you say. So
you say, so, how do you

518
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.440
create new habits easily the same way
you created the old habits? The repetition

519
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.400
of the small stuff, your self
esteem and the little things you do or

520
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.400
don't do are inextricably wound together to
produce the results that surround you big and

521
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.400
small, in every area of your
life. That's so yummy saying more about

522
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.440
that. I know, you know, I used to think that self esteem

523
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.519
was created by the big stuff,
you know, like receiving an award on

524
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:15.559
stage, or being in the school
play or something like that. And I

525
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.760
realized that well, and I also
heard a speaker one say that ten percent

526
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of life is the really great moments, and another ten percent is not so

527
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:29.519
great, and the eighty percent left
is like the every day, the daily

528
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.960
grind. And so if you can, you know, bring hashion, you

529
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.679
know, to the daily grind.
But our every result, every one of

530
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.800
our habits, started you know,
one day long ago, and then we

531
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.119
did it day after day after day
after day, and then it became weeks,

532
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:46.840
and then it became months, and
then it became years, and then

533
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.239
it became a big old result of
either being you know, in shape or

534
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.599
overweight, or in debt or you
know, prepared for your retirement. And

535
00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.000
so all of this small stuff,
it's not the big moments that make up

536
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.239
the majority of our self esteem,
is the everyday moments, the little stuff

537
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.559
that it's easy to discount, easy
to go, oh, that doesn't matter,

538
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:09.800
Well, the one time, it
doesn't matter. However, after thousands

539
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:15.199
of times, you know, it
builds up to produce a big result.

540
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.639
So every habit that you currently have
right now started with one day and then

541
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.960
you built on it and built on
it and built on it. And so

542
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.199
if you want to create some new, bigger, better habits than the ones

543
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:30.079
that you have today, the great
news is that you get to start today,

544
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.119
and then it's about being successful today, and then tomorrow is a new

545
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.039
day to be successful, and then
the next day, and then if you

546
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.400
keep going and going and going one
day at a time, pretty soon that

547
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.199
you have a new habit that you've
been doing for months and now years,

548
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:51.719
and now you have new different results. Yeah. And then there's one really

549
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:53.280
important key to that which you write
about. That's the next thing I want

550
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:55.719
to talk about. And you say, the best thing you can do to

551
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:01.119
get to your goal is to get
into action, massive action. So talk

552
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:05.320
to us, if you would,
about how action and courage are related.

553
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.000
Well, I mean, every it's
scary to take action. It's easier to

554
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.000
think about it and talk about it
and plan and getting ready to get ready.

555
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:19.199
I mean, you know people that
have been planning and getting ready to

556
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.079
get ready for ten years, and
so to actually take action takes courage.

557
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.639
And even if it was the wrong
action, when you're on the other side

558
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.159
of it, you realize that it
took courage and it didn't kill you,

559
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right, and whatever doesn't kill you
makes you stronger. And in that action,

560
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.719
like some people stand at a crossroads
for years right in analysis paralysis and

561
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:42.119
not knowing which path to choose.
And if you take a step, you'll

562
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.519
know soon enough whether that was the
right path or the wrong path, and

563
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.760
if it was the wrong path,
and you could get moving on the right

564
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:54.039
path, because every action gives you
information about what's working and what's not working

565
00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:00.760
and if if that's where you want
to continue to move forward to mm hmmm.

566
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And the other thing that I learned
too by having Cheff Hayden on my

567
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.760
radio show a couple couple of years
ago. He wrote a book called The

568
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.840
Motivation Myth. Is that right and
speak to this if you would renee,

569
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.760
when we get into action, then
it bolsters our self esteem because we recognize

570
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we're doing something toward our goal.
Right, So just the very taking of

571
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:22.039
action already creates a sense of energy
and inertia and momentum. It's so true,

572
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:28.360
and it creates the desire to keep
moving. You know. It's like

573
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:30.519
you know, if you're a salesperson
and you get a sale, you know

574
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.280
the next thing you want to do
is get another sale. You know.

575
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.639
It's like but and so I love
the part in my book where I totally

576
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.960
borrowed the part regarding the action.
It's like, I don't feel like running,

577
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.280
Well, that's because you're not running
yet. As soon as you start

578
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.119
running, you feel like running,
you know. And that is so true

579
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.360
and people that run they know that
to be true. It's like, I

580
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:53.599
don't feel like running right now,
Well, that's because you're not running.

581
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:57.079
As soon as you start running,
you'll feel like running. It's like I

582
00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:59.320
don't feel like getting a sale right
now, Well, that's because you're not

583
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:00.519
getting a sale. As soon as
you start getting a sale, you'll feel

584
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.960
like getting a sale. I mean. So it's like just the act of

585
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.159
moving and the self esteem, yes, that comes from it because you could

586
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:12.880
have made the choice to still be
sitting on the couch eating bond bonds,

587
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.480
and yet you are taking action.
So there's a certain amount of pride that

588
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:20.519
comes with that. And you know
the you know, the courage part as

589
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.920
well. Yeah, and you know, why do I care about this?

590
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.679
Listeners to Beer, which you've heard
me say this before if you've tuned in,

591
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.079
I care about your one precious life. What are you doing with this

592
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.800
one precious life right if you're watching
it go by sitting on the couch.

593
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I'm not going to be done with
that. I want to be with you,

594
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.960
cheering for you and helping you find
ways to get off that and get

595
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.960
into actions, which is why I
brought Renee on. So I'm so excited

596
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.239
about this, as you know,
it's so important, and in fact,

597
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.320
my next book that I'm now working
on is about this notion of getting into

598
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:51.079
action. How do we actually manifest
our passions and our purpose? So this

599
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.880
is so important, it's just huge. And to that end, one of

600
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.519
the things that you do great in
your book, Renee, that helps us

601
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.119
so much is you actually outline a
change sess that I think is incredibly valuable

602
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.880
and I like it because it helps
us understand how and where we get stuck

603
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.119
and how we get out of it. So can you talk us through that

604
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:13.840
process? Yes, it's called the
dip. And so anytime that you're going

605
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.320
to be a beginner, which is
anytime you're doing something new, you're going

606
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.559
to go through what I call the
dip, which is usually the first thirty

607
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:28.039
days of doing anything. And it
can be somewhat painful. However, it's

608
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.320
only temporary, and I love the
dip because it separates the interested from the

609
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.079
committed. There's many people that are
interested in having more money, yet not

610
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.199
committed to doing what it takes to
get there, or plenty of people that

611
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:45.880
are interested in weighing less, and
yet they're not committed to do the things

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required in order to get there.
And so again it's only temporary. So

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imagine, you know, if you
haven't worked out in the gym for five

614
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years and now you start working out
again, it is sore, it is

615
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uncomfortable, and yet if you you
do it day after day after day,

616
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pretty soon you get through the thirty
days of the dip and you're on the

617
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other side more like smooth sailing and
on the way to creating a new habit.

618
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So it's the first thirty days of
building a new habit, and it

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can be rocky, and it can
be difficult, and it can you know,

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take longer time than some of the
the kind of go to habits that

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you have that you're attempting to course
correct. Mm hm. So what I

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like to if you would speak a
little bit more to this Renee is there's

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a part in that dip where you
really do talk about the resistance, right,

624
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so we have a resistance to that
discomfort or starting this new thing,

625
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you say a little bit more about
how that shows up for us and how

626
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we can also persevere a little bit
stronger through that. Well, I mean,

627
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we're as human beings, we're pretty
committed to our comfort. So you

628
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know, it's pretty comfortable to sit
on the cal eating bond bonds versus you

629
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know, training for a triathlon,
you know, except that there's not a

630
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lot of respect and pride and liking
of self that comes from, you know,

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sitting on the couch eating eating bond
bonds. And so you know,

632
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to on purpose do things that stretch
us, right, and if we're going

633
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to get stretched, then there's going
to be fear present. However, nothing

634
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really great or extraordinary happened without fear
being present. And again, if you're

635
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willing to take action, pretty soon
you're on the other side of whatever it

636
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is, it didn't kill you.
You usually have a big old smile on

637
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your face with more evidence of what
was not bigger than you. And so

638
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like personal growth is kind of like
if something scares you, well, let's

639
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go do it. Because then once
you do it and realize that that wasn't

640
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bigger than you, then what about
the next thing? And if that's not

641
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bigger than you, then what about
the next, and then the next,

642
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and then the next, and then
again. You have piles of evidence of

643
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all these things that we're not bigger
than you. And the more evidence that

644
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you have, the more powerful that
you are moving forward for the next obstacle.

645
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That's perfectly rendered. I love that. Okay. Now, one of

646
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the last things I want to talk
about here, which I just think is

647
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incredibly useful and so identifiable and something
that we can all grab onto. But

648
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you talk about this idea of being
a beginner, and so to your point

649
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of already what you've been speaking about
there, you say in your book,

650
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if you were not uncomfortable somewhere,
you were not growing. Of course I

651
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agree with that, And then you
say, keep being willing to be a

652
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beginner. It's one of the best
qualities. It's highly underused. I completely

653
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agree with that, And I know
that you even devote your book to your

654
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husband and you talk about him being
a great beginner. Say more about this

655
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thing about being a beginner. Well, as kids, we were willing to

656
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be beginners all the time, and
we were willing to fail over and over

657
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again, and we were willing to
practice in order to get good at something,

658
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in order to master something. And
then we become adults and all of

659
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a sudden, we don't want to
be beginners anymore. Do something for the

660
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first time time, and we think
that we should be great at it the

661
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.199
first time, and we're not willing
to put in the practice like we were,

662
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you know, in growing up.
And yet you know, we're never

663
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going to be successful at the first
shot, and that failure is part of

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the process to get to success.
Like if you knew that you were going

665
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to be successful on the hundredth time
that you did something, how fast would

666
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you get through the first one through
ninety nine of failures such that you would

667
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be successful? And if you have
that type of mindset right, willing to

668
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be a beginner, willing to be
uncomfortable, willing to practice in order to

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you know, then become masterful at
something you know is huge. You know.

670
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I have another favorite quote that says, in times of change, the

671
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learners will inherit the earth well.
The learned will be beautifully equipped for a

672
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world that no longer exists. Remember
that in your book therek Offer and I

673
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just so love that because the learn
right within time to tend learners will inherit

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the earth. The people that are
willing to take classes and seminars that they're

675
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they're willing to be open to other
people's point of view, they're willing to

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learn and grow, and they're gonna
be ready for you know, this new

677
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world. Well, the learned,
you know, the people that it's like

678
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:23.079
I've been doing things twenty this way
for twenty years, and I'm going to

679
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:28.159
continue doing and they're not flexible and
they're not open to doing things new,

680
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and they're going to be beautifully equipped
with the world that no longer exists.

681
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And so the key, you know, is to be a learner for life.

682
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You know, it's not like we
get to eighteen or twenty whatever age

683
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and it's like done with the learning. The best thing that you can do

684
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is be committed to life long learning
and to continue to take classes and seminars

685
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:53.159
because they'refore successful people. Successful people
want to know how to how to be

686
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more, have more, how to
live to their full potential, and classes

687
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.719
and workshops and seminars help us live
to our full potential. Mm hmm.

688
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.000
I want to also reinforce what you're
saying here. Another woman had my show

689
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.719
last fall, A Rachel Stewart wrote
a book called Unqualified Success, and essentially

690
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:12.559
what she's saying is, every time
we go to something new, we feel

691
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.119
unqualified and are unqualified to take that
in new role because we haven't done it

692
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.760
before. We're a beginner. And
she talks also about you know, really

693
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.719
using fear as our ally. It's
right there in the in the seat with

694
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our arm around it. It's coming
with us, but it's coming along.

695
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We're unqualified, but we push through
it anyway. And I think it's just

696
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such an important message. And I
know it's uncomfortable, ladies and gentlemen,

697
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:36.480
I know it is. That's so
worth it. So here we are renee.

698
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We managed to talk through almost a
whole entire hour together. It goes

699
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.159
so fast. You know, the
show is listened to by people across the

700
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world. And then we're out to
create workplaces where people can thrive and inspirational

701
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.239
leaders make a difference in how we
experience our work and how we do business.

702
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.280
What would you like to leave our
listeners with, Well, one of

703
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:59.480
the things I talk about in my
book is to be selfish about your self

704
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.880
esteem, and that kind of some
people are like selfish about yourself, meaning

705
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:07.639
that your self esteem is your number
one priority, that your barometer, Like

706
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.400
you start looking at if I do
X, is it going to increase my

707
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.039
self esteem or decrease my self esteem? And you use the answer to that

708
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:19.199
question as your barometer of whether to
move forward or not. And some of

709
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.760
the best ways in order to increase
self esteem are things that nobody knows about,

710
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:27.320
like secrets with the universe or secrets
with God. And so I would

711
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.719
encourage you to be secretly incredible,
you know, like doing random acts of

712
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:36.360
kindness or you know, tithing money
that nobody knows that you tied. It's

713
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.559
like you look at yourself in the
mirror different because you have pride for yourself

714
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:43.840
and respect and that you like yourself. And so there's things that you can

715
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:49.639
add into your calendar on purpose to
like yourself more. You can make a

716
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.960
list of here's what I do,
here's when I do these things, I

717
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.920
like myself more, and then you
incorporate them into the schedule versus I hope

718
00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:00.760
I happen upon one of those things. Every once in a while, and

719
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so remember that your self esteem is
one hundred percent in your control through the

720
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.400
small stuff, through the things that
we do or don't do on a daily

721
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basis. And so you can start
today to improve your self esteem. However,

722
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.840
remember to be consistent. If you're
going to start like get the second

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day and the third day and the
fourth day, and pretty soon you got

724
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a new habit going. I love
it, Renee. Great way to finish.

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Thank you so much for sharing your
heart, your soul, your mind,

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00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.440
everything with us today. I loved
it. Thank you, Thank you

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so much. I had a great
time as well, awesome listeners and viewers.

728
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:32.400
You want to learn more about Renee
Cermak and the work she does with

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self esteem and personal transformation or her
book, start by going to her personal

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00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.320
website. It's Renee cirmac dot com. Let me spell that for you,

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it's r E N E E and
then C E R m a K Renee

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sirmac dot com. Last week,
if you missed the live show, you

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know schedu be recorded podcast We are
on dear with John Baker, who is

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the CEO of D two L which
stands for a Desire to Learn, talking

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about the importance and role of continual
education and development in today's rapidly evolving market

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place. In workforce next week will
be on the air with Dan Berger,

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who's the President and CEO of the
National Association of Federally Insured Credit Unions,

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talking about the importance of servant leadership
and keeping employees safe during the pandemic.

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See you there. Remember that works
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So let's work on Purpose. We
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sure to tune in to Working on
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Cortes, each week on the Voice
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a world where business operates conscientiously,
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fulfilled in work that provides the meaning
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Let's work on Purpose.