Navigating Our Emotions: The Path to Communication and Health

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What's working on Purpose anyway? Each
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Working on Purpose now. Here is
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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose
Program. Thanks for tuning in again this

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Elise Cortes, joining you Lai from Dallas,

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glad we're connected, and thanks for
listening. Now onto this week's program with

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us today is doctor Nahas Sanguan,
the CEO and founder of Intuitive Intelligence.

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She is an internal medicine physician,
international speaker, and corporate communication expert.

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Her private practice and corporate consulting focuses
on empowering individuals, organizational leaders, and

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their teams with the tools for clear, effective communication. She's the author of

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talk RX, Five Steps to Honest
Conversations that create Connection, health and Happiness,

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which we'll be talking about today on
the show. She joined it today

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from Boston. Doctor Naha, Welcome
to Working on Purpose. Thank you,

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Willie. It's glad to be here. I'm so glad. I discovered you

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when I was on a conscious capitalism
call and you presented some similar content and

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I said, you have to come
on my show and share your beautiful heart

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and soul with my listeners. So
thank you for saying yes, absolutely,

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it's my honor. Ah Well,
I loved reading your book, and I

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want to start, since I know
way more about you than our listeners do,

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I want to start by orienting them
just really how you got into the

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camp that you're in when you were
practicing medicine full time and you were talking

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with your patients and you discovered that
when you inquired about the rest of their

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lives that in addition to the physical
aimles, the elements that were presenting them

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at the hospital for your care,
that they also reported other issues like unresolved

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conflict on net expectations, mister understandings, etc. So well, can you

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just share with us a bit about
this journey of how you began thinking about

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your medical practice and what people needed
from you in order to improve their health.

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Yeah, it really changed. Let
me just start by saying, this

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changed the trajectory of how I think
about medicine and how I think about life

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in the end. But you know, as a doctor. First I was

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an engineer, and I learned to
solve complex problems in the physical world.

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Then I moved into engineering and I
applied those complex problem solving skills to the

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human world and when our bodies break
down. But what I realized was I

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thought I was doing something incredibly helpful, which I was except a few years

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later, because there's something called continuity
of care, I would be called back

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down again and they'd say, mister
Jones is in bed nine with another heart

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attack. And that absolutely perplexed me
because I thought, I don't know if

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I'm solving mister Jones's problem. I
think I may have just band aided him

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through through a crisis, but I
wonder what's underneath, what's happening here.

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So the engineer in me surfaced as
a doctor. So when I burned out

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myself, which was in two thousand
and four, I really had some time

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on my hands, and I started
researching how could this be? How could

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I have gone through all this education, I understand so much about the body,

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how could I have burned out?
And I in the research, it's

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very clear that more than ninety percent
of all illness is caused or exacerbated by

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stress. So what I started to
do was, once I stabilized my hospital

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patient's physical health, we got them
through a stroke, a heart attack,

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and ammonia whatever it was. The
night before I discharged them, I started

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asking them what was at the root
of their stress? And I did it

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in five questions. So I would
pull out Back in those days, we

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had prescription pads in our pockets and
our white coats, so I would pull

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up that pad of paper and I
would start writing, you know, number

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one, why this, Why this
part of your body? Why did this

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part of your body break down?
Why your heart not your left leg or

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your liver? Help me, help
me understand what the messages your body's trying

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to give you. Question number two? Why now? So? Why not

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three years ago? Why not two
weeks from now? Now? Why did

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your body in this moment need you
to pay attention? Question three? Since

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hindsight it's twenty twenty, what might
you have missed along the way? Question

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four? What else needs to be
healed in your life? And this one

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really opened up a lot. And
question five if you spoke from the heart,

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what would you say, and I
was amazed. Every patient I stopped

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counting after twenty seven hundred in a
row. Every patient answered those questions.

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Every patient got an extra twenty to
three thirty minutes of me sitting with them

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and helping them solve the other issues
in their life that were causing stress and

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giving them resources and ways to help
them. That I no longer ended up

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getting thank you cards and flowers and
chocolates that said thank you for helping my

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dad get through a heart attack.
It was the actual patient themselves writing and

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saying, you're never going to believe
this. I don't have headaches anymore,

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I don't suffer from insomnia. I'm
off my medication and for blood pressure.

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And when I started seeing that,
I realized we were onto something pretty big.

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So that's really how it all happened, and that's how I started to

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realize that people's mental, emotional,
social, and spiritual health really impacts their

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physical health. And now it's a
big deal, right with burnout and I

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had also burned out. And to
me, when I say spiritual health,

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what I mean is the connection to
meaning and purpose in your life, in

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your book, and in that you
get up every day in the morning,

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and you believe that what you do
matters. I'm completely aligned with that,

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which is another reason I had to
have you on and get this doctor Nahab.

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We have our first interaction here in
the WOCY chat room, which you've

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already answered the question, but let
me just let you speak to him.

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Walter asks, does it really help
to ask? And I think your twenty

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seven hundred responses illustrate that it does. Yes. You know, you know

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what they what they said to me
was astounding. They really said, you

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know, how come you're the only
doctor that's ever asked me these questions.

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Normally at this point in time doctors
say to me, well, what you

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need to do is have a low
cholesterol diet, and what you need to

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do is take this pill three times
a day for the rest of your life,

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or once a day for the rest
of your life, whatever the prescription

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is. And what I realized in
that moment is that this was a sacred

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moment, a sacred moment between a
patient who had just gone through something that

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scared them to death and a provider
who helped them and their bodies supported them

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through that healing moment. And in
that place, they never thought they were

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going to be the fifty eight year
old status post heart attack, or the

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forty six year old with cancer,
or the seventy two year old after a

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stroke, and so everything they knew
about the world had just crumbled. But

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instead of that being a negative thing, when you meet them with those questions,

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what ends up happening is it becomes
an opening and opening to a way

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of thinking, a new way of
being. And so that's how people transformed

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and changed. So I think of
it as a sacred moment, and I

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believe we're actually in one right now, except it's a world heart attack,

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and we are actually all experiencing,
you know, world events that are changing

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so quickly that we are all in
this space of the world isn't as we

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knew it. We used to say
keep home at home and work at work.

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Now home is work. So if
we used to think that, you

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know, we never used to think
that loving and caring for people meant you

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didn't hug them and you didn't visit
them. Right, So as our world

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crumble, some people will hold on
to it dearly and just say, oh,

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I want it to get to go
back to the way that it was.

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And other people will say, wow, if there's another way, show

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me the way I'm in. Mm
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got to say two things really quick. First, I did not realize how

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much our work parallels. Yes,
I don't work well, and I knew

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that you don't necessarily practice medicine per
se anymore. But I do live in

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that present sacred space with my clients. That is exactly when it is open

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a clearing, and it is around
mindset, and it is around spirituality and

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meeting and purpose. I did not
realize how much we were lying. I

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love that. And then secondly,
what I want to say is right,

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this is no surprise, right,
no wonder. I immediately got you when

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I heard you. The second thing
I want to say is that just what

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you're getting at this backet of this
comment here, I am so aware that

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this pandemic has opened another clearing for
us to be able to re architect the

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world that we live in and that
we absolutely work in in our favor.

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Because I know that. You know, the Gallup Organization says that eighty five

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percent of the global population doesn't want
to go to work on Monday morning.

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Why would that be it's not working. So let's we've got a perfect opportunity

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right now to seize the moment and
address these issues and create a workplace that

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people actually want to go to and
that can thrive in. So I too

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see it as an opportunity and a
clearing wow. And you know it also

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requires an up leveling. It's like
an upgrade to the human software of who

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we are. Yes that if we
came to this with the same thinking,

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the same level of awareness, the
same consciousness as we did before this,

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and our job, you know,
we think our job is to endure this,

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which is, you know, maybe
watch Netflix nonstops or eat our favorite

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you know, candy bars, and
endure this and hope that it goes away.

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We will have missed that sacred moment
to elevate ourselves to the next level

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of what we could be and what
we could co create in this world.

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And everybody listening is obviously in that
ladder camp, which is, Hey,

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how can I learn? How can
I better myself? How can I elevate

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to the next level of me?
This is so yummy, I can't stand

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it. I love it. This
is exactly what I wanted for a conversation.

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Thank you, and I'm sure my
listeners feel the same. So one

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of the reasons I wanted to have
you on Doctor Nay how many reasons.

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One, you're just you're just a
beautiful being in the world that every time

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you show up, everyone's better for
it. And in addition to that,

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you have such a distinctive intelligence and
reach into the emotional sphere that I wanted

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to help presence for our listeners.
So to that end, I think it

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makes sense at this point since we're
going to be talking more deeply about the

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subject of emotions, how do you
define emotions? Yeah, this is really

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important. You know the example I
just gave, which is keep home at

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home and work at work. We
have lived on that premise as a way

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to control our environment, as a
way to not allow the messiness that might

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take over a meeting that should only
last thirty minutes and everybody's leaving exactly on

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time. So there's a way that
we used emotions. We were not used

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emotions. We were afraid of them, so we tried to control them.

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But what I say is, emotions
are energy in motion. So they're not

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good, they're not bad. They're
just an indication of how you're expect connecting

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to the experience of your life.
In this moment, emotions your GPS system.

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Would you ever tell someone to drive
cross country but not not use a

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map and not use a GPS system. That's like telling someone in their life

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to live your life, but don't
show any emotion, don't experience any emotion.

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So earlier in our lives, there
are times with the way that school

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is set up, stresses are set
up, that it was beneficial to override

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our body signals. I mean,
I wouldn't have made it through residency in

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thirty six hour shifts and you know
all of these things if I didn't learn

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to override my body's signals and emotions. But what is absolutely certain is what

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has gotten us here will not get
us where we're going. And so what

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if I you know, what if
you thought about emotions as your body's earliest

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signals, like somebody giving you a
clue, a clue that tells you how

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you're feeling, whether this aligns with
your value, whether something things seems a

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little off, whether it ress deeply. Emotions, physical sensations in your body,

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they are the earliest signal you get
that tells you in which direction you

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need and want to go, So
not to listen to them allows your life

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to be directed very clearly by the
outside world. I call that people leading

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from the outside in, and they're
often like driftwood in the ocean. They

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kind of go whichever way the wind
is blowing. But the goal with an

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emotional GPS fully intact and functioning is
that you lead from the inside out,

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and you become a sailboat with a
rudder. Of course it's influenced by the

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wind, but it's charting its own
course. I love that. What a

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great analogy. I have another question
I want to post to you from the

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Portal book before I get to that. Just a second, Manny will be

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right there with you, if you
would say a little bit more about this

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notion of what happens when we do
leave our emotions unexpressed, stuffed or unacknowledged,

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or we try to numb them out. What happens. So, first

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of all, there's many ways we
do it, and each person listening should

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be thinking of their own numbing strategies. Mine so my signal is throat constriction.

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My throat starts to tense up,
I start having to clear my throat,

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my stomach's turning. I'm usually having
a sinking feeling and that usually means

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I'm disappointed, I'm upset, I'm
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numb it are. I used to
have a sugar caffeine strategy. A couple

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bottles of Mountain Dew and a king
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thirty six hours. So every I'm
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dude, it just cracked me up. Yeah. Well, listen,

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everybody comes up with their own unique
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to know is there's physical signals that
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you're tired, and you're going to
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else. So know what the signals
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you numb yourself out enough, the
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they'll be incredibly intense. But the
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is through physical sensations. So those
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that you're for example, mad,
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know, thrilled, confused, jealous, upset. How do you know that?

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muscles tightening, that's how you know. So if you're ignoring the physical

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signals in your body, you will
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So when you leave them unexpressed,
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energy and motion. So the problem
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you're expressing them. That's never the
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never the problem, because how you
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is not that you have certain feelings
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problem is that they Most people stuff
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get stuck in that feeling and that
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some fear. Maybe it turns into
loneliness, sadness. It starts you're still

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not paying attention to it. It
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you know, you feeling upset depressed. When you stay there, when it's

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whatever's underneath that is unexpressed and not
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you start sinking. In your emotion. That's where you get stuck. And

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so whether it's grief, anger,
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sure that you welcome. I call
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bring us not just one emotion,
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say is, invite that family of
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of them, because that's where you
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something. And that becomes a fantasy
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going to miraculously disappear, because what
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kind of like you shove something under
the rug. Does that mean your house

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is clean? No, it means
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pretty soon after you keep doing that, there's like a bump under your rug,

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and then you trip on it.
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bigger. And I think stuffing emotions
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Trying to hold a beach ball under
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that lactic acid builds up in your
arm. It starts to hurt, It

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starts to hurt, and eventually that
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at the most innertune moment. And
that's the same thing about emotions. Oh

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my gosh, all that thought,
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Let's grab our first break. I'm
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back to working on purpose. Thanks
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to working on purpose. And if
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doctor Nehasanguan. She's the CEO and
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internal medicine physician, international speaker,
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and happiness. I'm your host,
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few questions here, doctor Nahale.
Let's just quickly address them because there's a

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little confusion so far as we continue
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Patty and here especially are wondering about
are you saying we should number emotions?

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And of course I know the answer
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stuff our emotions or feel them out? So just to give them a response,

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how would you like to respond to
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times in your life when you're young, maybe you're not able, you don't

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know how to express your emotions,
or it's unsafe to do that because you

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got spanked, or if you're in
a tough situation. I'm a doctor.

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I want to be a doctor,
and I need to go through thirty six

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hours of taking care of patients,
and I don't know how to do that.

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There's systems set up in our world
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sometimes is it a survival mechanism that
we use to stuff our emotions. Yes,

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it happens. But what I'm saying
is that may be a short term

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strategy, but it is going to
hurt you in the long run. And

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in the long term, it goes
unaddressed, it will become a problem that

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surfaces in another way. It'll get
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It will show up in your physical
body as headaches, You'll get sick,

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it will undermine your immune system and
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so I'm acknowledging that there are times
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any better, where I wasn't aware
of this, and so I did use

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strategies to kind of help me get
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what you should do. I'm saying
for many of us that may be a

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reality. But the question, the
second part of your question, at least

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when you say it again, for
me, the second part of the question

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was should we stuff the emotion or
feel them out? Was what he is

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asking. So it's really important to
learn to honor your emotions and be able

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to feel them. And for some
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some people it's to journal it out. Some people it's to have the conversation

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and say what you said and at
the party really upset me. So sometimes

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it can be expressed in many different
ways, and there's healthy ways to do

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that. And this is about learning
how your unique expression of emotions can help

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you connect more deeply to yourself and
to those around you, Okay, and

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to that end, So there's a
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I love what you say in your
book, doctor Naha, when you remind

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us that you know We're very happy
to reveal our opinions about the actions of

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others and give them advice. But
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I quote, how often are we
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our heads to our hearts and talk
about what we really feel and desire?

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So I think that's so important.
So our listeners are here, You're clearly

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looking. They're leaning into the phone
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there's a little bit of work to
do to get present for that. So

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do you have a story that you
can share with us that either illustrates that

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or how they came to the other
side that would help their listeners. Yeah,

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I mean I have a few,
so just love you both start on.

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So it reminds me of the day
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practicing medicine. Now I've moved upstream, so I don't do it at the

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crisis point in the hospital. Now
I believe what I do is help people.

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And this is from my patients.
What they said to me was doctor

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saying, one, why was the
price of meeting you and learning all these

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tools? A stroke, a heart
attack or a pneumonia? Why isn't someone

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like you out in the world twenty
or thirty years ago, helping me do

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this so that I didn't have to
end up here in order to learn this.

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And so let me tell you about
that day when I decided to give

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up my tenured partnership. So when
you're a partner, when you're a physician

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partner in this practice, you're basically
tenured in for life. No one can

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fire you. You're guaranteed a job. So I walked in one day too.

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They said, you know, in
the er, whatever bet it was,

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you know, there's a patient with
a stroke, a forty eight year

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old woman with a stroke. When
I came downstairs and I almost was going

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to walk in. I overheard her
family, her children and husband. Where's

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the doctor, Mom's drooling, nobody's
seen her yet, Like what's going on?

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And I could feel this just palpable
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inside. So I first had to
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heart started raising, my throat was
constricting. I took a nice steep breath

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in right, Because emotions can be
contagious to the people you're around. How

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many times do you know you walk
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much angst or anger, and you
can feel it, and you weren't even

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there for what just happened. So
I took a nice steep breath. I

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walked in and I said, everybody, can you please sit down? Everybody

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needs to sit down. I am
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see is your mother's heart rate.
She just had a stroke. I could

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tell because of what the emergency room
doctor had told me. She was drooling,

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half of her face, was drooling, only forty eight years old,

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and the monitors were showing elevated heart
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I always used to do is say, okay, I need to distinguish whether

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I need to give this person medications
or this is panic emotion? Right?

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Like, what's going on? I
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is this mental emotional social right.
Well, they had been leaning over their

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mothers, saying, Mom can't speak, she's drooling, Oh my god,

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there's no doctor here, all these
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wow, I don't this woman,
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family and in control of everything,
is now laying a bed and unable to

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respond as she watches those she loves
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everybody please sit down. I told
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you slow you basically focused on your
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your mental what you're thinking about.
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all take some slow, deep breasts. I went over it and I asked

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the patient, could you squeeze my
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and could you squeeze my hand twice
if you would like to try this body

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scan that I'd like to do to
see if we can bring down your heart

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rate and your blood pressure naturally.
So everybody's sitting down and she squeezes twice.

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She says, yes, I want
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I say, take a nice,
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start at the top of their head, move down to their forehead, their

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jaw, their neck, the chest, the belly down and as I'm heading

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down to her feet, eggs and
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off. They stopped skeeping and they
open their eyes. They all looked around

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like what just happened? Nothing's beeping
anymore, And I just said, okay,

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let's keep going. Went we finished, and her heart rate and her

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blood pressure were just above normal.
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this is really an important moment for
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your mother a medication that could sedate
her could prolong mean keeping her in the

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hospital. Now, what I realized
is this was something that the environment itself

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was causing for her, and so
what will help her stay home when we're

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done with all of this is your
ability to be able to manage yourselves and

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know that you impact those you love
and those that are around you. So

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it was this moment where they were
in awe. They said, we really

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want to learn about this, We
just want to take and they had the

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best intentions, but they just didn't
know what to do when everything they knew

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just crumbled. And so it's a
very similar moment, and it's, you

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know, this experience of they started
crying rather than being angry and upset.

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They said, we're just so worried
about my mom. We just couldn't say

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it. We thought we needed to
be strong and protect her. But really

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what we're realizing now is we just
need to be with her and calm ourselves

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so that we can be present for
her and help her so that was a

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really important moment where we got the
family to drop from their head and what

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they thought they needed to do,
which is take over control right to drop

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into their hearts, which was more
of a sadness, devastation, disappointment,

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shock that this was happening. And
we also needed them to know that their

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mother, she may have changed in
the few moments that we were in there,

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but she was going to meet them, she was going to meet this

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child. She was going to be
able to do this. But it was

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a moment of trust. I think
that flipped for them, and they also

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realized that if they could be with
their own emotions, it would serve not

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only them, but it would also
serve their mother. What a beautiful and

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powerful example. It has so many
applications there, Doctor Nietta, thank you.

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I wish we had Well, we're
tying to keep talking about this,

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but I want to get through a
couple more things, one more thing before

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we go on our next break,
and that is and this steer me,

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by the way, is going to
address one of your questions about how we

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can start to unstick ourselves. So
you talk about in your book that there

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are literally dozens upon dozens of emotions
that are available to us, but we

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tend to have just if you go
to that we experience and you say that

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when we're ambitious ambiguous about what we
feel, others fill in the blanks,

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probably like what was happening there in
the hospital room, and then what happens

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is they start telling stories and there's
a lot of misunderstanding. And so what

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you're suggesting, and I want you
to speak to if you would, is

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having a variety of words to better
describe our emotional states allows us to be

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in our communication and to listen to
others in a way that depends that deepens

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our connection and saves time. So
developing that vocabulary seems really really important to

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me. Can you say more about
how we can use that technique or that

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strategy? Yeah, so your emotions, you nobody else knows what's going on

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for you, and most of the
time we don't know what's going on for

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ourselves, right, And so that
leads that's that whole drift wood in the

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ocean, going whichever way the wind
blows and allowing our external world to be

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the one that determines what happens next. When you recognize your physical sensations like

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I want you to know that I
did not understand that my mythroat constriction was

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alerting me. I was reading and
learning about all these cancers and all these

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things that I was convinced I had
a lump in my throat that was growing.

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I got put under anesthesia twice twice
and had them look down to confirm

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for me that the shortness of breath
I was feeling was not something physical.

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And so we have not learned as
a society how to do this. We

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do not teach our children to pay
attention to their sensations, their emotions,

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to feel their emotions. We say
things like, go in your room and

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don't come out until you have a
smile on your face. What are you

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doing? No, shut that down. You can't be angry, you can't

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be sad, whatever it is.
And so if you don't understand this,

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please know that it's because we haven't
grown up being taught this. And so

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the beauty is now, it's time. So with the emotions, it's absolutely

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true that you know emotions themselves.
This would be a whole another show,

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but basically, things like understanding that
when someone's tearful, including yourself, tears

439
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are not just tears. Tears could
be tears of joy, they could be

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tears of relief, They could be
tears of anger, they could be tears

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of sadness. So when you see
some tearing up, I don't want you

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to assume that you know why they're
teering up. You may think they just

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got really sad, but you know
what, they might have been touched by

444
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something you just said that reminds them
of their favorite uncle. Right. Would

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you hold that for just a second, doctor hickcause I want to go into

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those You do this so powerfully,
and I want to cut for our last

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break, and I want to make
sure people get that. So I'm Elise

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Cortez, your host. We're in
near doctor Neja Sanguan of Intuitive Intelligence.

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Her private practice and corporate consulting focuses
on empowering individuals, organizational leaders, and

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their teams with the tools for clear, effective communication. She joined us today

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from Boston. After the break,
we're going to hear more about the different

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kinds of tears and also anger.
Stay with us, We'll be right back.

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Doctor Elise Cortez is a management consultant
specializing in meaning and purpose, and

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inspirational speaker and author. She helps
companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and

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develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused
cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and

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commitment within the workforce. To learn
more or to invite Elise to speak to

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your organization, please visit her at
elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about how

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to get your employees working on purpose. This is Working on Purpose with doctor

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Elise Cortes. To reach our program
today or open a conversation with Elise,

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send an email to Alise Alise at
elisecortes dot com. Now back to working

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on Purpose. Thanks for staying with
us, and welcome back to working on

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Purpose. If you're just tuning in, my guest is doctor Neja Sanguan.

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She's the CEO and founder of Intuitive
Intelligence. She's an internal medicine physician,

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international speaker, and corporate communications expert, and she is the author of Talk

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Our ex Five Steps to honest Conversations
that create connection, health, and happiness.

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I'm your host, doctor Les Cortez. So one of the things that

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I think is so powerful about how
you talk about this subject and what's in

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your book, doctor Naha, is
that you really, really, you know,

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take the veil away around emotions,
and you really give us access to

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what they are and how we can
start to feel them more deeply and intervene,

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you know, when to make sure
that if we're over off track.

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So would you share with us that
there are actually different chemicals that show up

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in those in those three different kinds
of tears and what they mean absolutely,

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So what's really important is anything we
don't like or makes us uncomfortable, we

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basically try to control it. Right, So tears, what do people think

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about it? There's a lot of
judgment around tiers. They think, you

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know, you're not allowed to feel
tears, or tears make you weak or

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whatever it is. But actually that
just means that the person who's judging you

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for feeling those tears and expressing yourself
is uncomfortable themselves in the presence of tears.

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It means nothing about you expressing those
tears, right. So science definitely

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backs me up on this. So
William Fray, who's a biochemist out of

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Minnesota, he studied tears and he
actually found that different kinds of tears have

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different composition. So there's three types. There's continuous tears, right, and

484
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those are the ones that you keep
your eyes moist. They keep you functioning,

485
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.199
so you can keep your eyes open
all day long. Your eyes also

486
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.760
connect to the nasolacrimal dot to your
nose and it keeps your nose moist as

487
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well. So those are called continuous
tears. There's an antibacterial agent in there,

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and that's why you don't often get
infections of the nose or the eyes.

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So that's called lice'ssime. Now,
the second type of tears are they

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arise and we're response to like dust
or contacts a foreign object, and they're

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called reflexive tears, the second type. And so and even when you're cutting

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00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.719
onions, right, that whole experience. So these tears are almost one hundred

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percent like ninety eight percent water,
and they help the eye just flush out

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00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:21.440
irritants. And this is what happens, you know, each morning if you're

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putting in your contacts. Now,
the third type of tears is emotional tears.

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And emotional tears tears that are arise
because you're touched by something, moved

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by something, saddened by a movie, upset about something. They actually have

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stress hormones in them. So the
whole amazing piece of this is this is

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your body's biological way of getting rid
and expelling yourself of the stress hormone that's

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arising in you when you're feeling sad, upset, tearful. And so I

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00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.880
just wonder, you know, how
we come up with all these stories as

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humans to protect ourselves and make ourselves
feel better, and we stop each other

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because maybe it's inconvenient, maybe it's
uncomfortable, We stop each other from these

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biological experiences that are a natural part
of our own physiology that gives us so

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much access to Doctor n High.
So appreciate you distinguishing those kinds of tears

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and how they function, what they
mean, and also helping our listeners understand

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00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:30.480
how we respond to somebody else's tears
says more about ourselves than says about them.

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That's very powerful. And then there
was something else I was going to

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say. Oh, what I wanted
to say is the way you're rendering this

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is like a work of artists,
Like you're painting as a beautiful, gorgeous

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painting of ourselves as humanity and as
a functioning being, and its gorgeous.

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Thank you, it's just gorgeous.
Okay, Now, having said that,

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let's talk about anger. You talk
about it in the book. Right,

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it's a perfect juxtaposition. Right,
you talk about it in the book as

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it's a strong emotion, but it's
a mark. Will you distinguish anger for

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us like you did tears? So
anger's not really anger, rights, it's

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a secondary emotion. And so anger
is usually the mask covering up someone either

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being afraid or hurt or both.
So there's usually people who get angry,

519
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:29.159
even bullies in the world. They're
not bullying because they're so big and tough

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and strong. They're bullying because there's
something very tender and vulnerable that they are

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trying to protect fiercely. And so
anger, you know, there's an intensity

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to it, right. It starts
you might be annoyed and then irritated,

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and then if it goes on more, you get frustrated, and then you're

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upset, and then you're angry,
and then you're livid, and then there's

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hatred and rage. Once again.
This is that same experience I was talking

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to you about earlier, which is
about staying, getting stuck in an emotion

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and it doesn't go away, it
just gets bigger. So some people have

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judgments about anger. They say it's
out of control. Some people think it's

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powerful. They think they feel puffed
up when they they're angry. You know,

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you need to know depending on who
you are. If you're the person

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who tends to use, you know, anger as your way to express yourself,

532
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that's you know, it's one of
your go to emotions, right,

533
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:29.199
pay attention to how the earlier signals
around it. If you are in the

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face of someone who gets angry and
maybe you shut down or you physically remove

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yourself because it feels scary, you
need to know the physical signals that you're

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noticing, louder voice, banging of
objects. You know. My favorite one

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is when someone says, you know, they don't use your first name anymore.

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It's like William Edward Haskell gets down
here this minute, right, there's

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clues to it. And what's really
important too, is that you always recognize

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when it's a safety issue. So
anger is a different one because it can

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lead to different places. There's domestic
violence, there's you know, places where

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you become physically unsafe. And that's
the one thing I would tell our listeners,

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which is if that is ever the
case for you, please abandon all

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00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.079
communication tools that you're learning here and
get yourself, remove yourself and get to

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safety, because this is not what
you use in the moment that you feel

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00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:28.920
physically unsafe. A great way to
distinguish that, doctor Nihill, is so

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00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:35.000
so so important. Let me give
them a quick turnaround, which is how

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you come home from anger, right, is through compassion and forgiveness. And

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00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:42.719
I go through this all. I
want to say, it's chapter fourteen in

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my book, but it's anger and
anger is you know, healed through compassion

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and forgiveness. And I literally go
through the steps to help you do that.

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So, by the way, let
me let me let me talk about

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this really quick. As I said
to you in the email exchange we had

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today, doctor Niha, what you
have created, and that what you've rendered

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00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:05.559
in your book is so beautiful and
tight and compelling and such an easy,

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00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.000
delightful read. It's got the tools
all in the back of each of the

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chapters. It's just it's incredibly tight
and useful and a work of art.

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And I really want to acknowledge you
for that as I'm writing my own book

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00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:20.400
and trying so hard to find a
way to be concise and compelling like you

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00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:25.039
are, so definitely listeners. She's
given you tools here. We're getting so

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00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.679
close to the end of time here, so let's do this. I think

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that the story that you talk about
with your interaction in the book with Prince

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00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.440
Abdulahziz and his has question about how
to handle his daughter's emotions, is such

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a powerful illustration of how emotions are
so poorly misunderstood in their origination and what

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we can do about them. And
it says a lot about how we as

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leaders can help understand, support,
and address how the emotions that people within

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our followership feel. So will you
tell that magnificent story? Sure? And

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the conversation was with doctor Abdullah who
was running this conference, and I had

569
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.719
gone to a medical conference in place
of someone else. Someone my mentor had

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said, nay, how can you
represent me? Can you represent my work

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in Saudi? So there I was
at this medical conference and doctor Abdullah was

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taking us to go falcon hunting with
Prince Abdulah's ease, which is the whole

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00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.880
thing was like out of a movie. And there were five of us in

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the car and we're, you know, on our way to the Prince's palace.

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I'm sitting in the middle back and
then there's four men around me right

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00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:38.159
one on either side. Prince of
doctor Abdulah is driving. You know this

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one's about And then there's another person
in the front seat. He had asked

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00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.239
me this is about his daughter in
tears. Is that the story you're talking

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00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.440
about? Or are you at the
exchange? Yes, worried about maybe I'm

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00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:53.840
confusing with the characters. I'm so
sorry. The one I wanted you to

581
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:58.719
tell is where he's asking you to
give you advice on how to help him.

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00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.639
Yeah, well this daughter's emotions.
Yes, okay, this is the

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00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.760
same one. So we're now in
the car on our way to see Prince

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00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:08.920
Abdulaziz, and there's kind of,
you know, a little moment of silence

585
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.000
in the car we're driving, and
he says to me, well, nah,

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00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:14.800
how it looks like we have a
little bit of time. Could you

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00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:19.440
please help me with my daughter?
And I said, well, what seems

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to be wrong? And he said, well, she's very weak. And

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00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.480
I said, well, how do
you know that? And he said,

590
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well, look at you. You're
you're a woman who comes, you know,

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to Saudi Arabia and you speak on
communication in front of hundreds of people,

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and my daughter whenever she gets nervous
or upset. She cries and she's

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very she's very weak, like we
need you know, I was hoping you

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00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.559
could help her. And I took
a moment in me right, and I

595
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.559
said, do you think right now
is the best time for us to talk

596
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.039
about this? Because I could see
the other three men in the car,

597
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.440
everybody looking forward, acting like they
couldn't hear the conversation that was unfolding.

598
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.599
And I said, sure, right
now is the right time. And he

599
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.159
said, well, of course,
let's talk about it right now. And

600
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I said, okay, because that's
my whole thing. It's like you check

601
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.360
in with someone. You give them
a chance to say, maybe this isn't

602
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:15.920
the right setting, but if they're
willing to do it and they're okay with

603
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.159
it, let's move forward. So
I thought for a moment and I said,

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00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:25.079
doctor Abdullah, I have been with
you and your family for the past

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00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:34.719
seven days. You have orchestrated this
incredible conference of medical professionals to educate your

606
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:39.199
country. You are I've spoken to
the nurses, your team, physicians,

607
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:44.400
they all revere you. And I've
even spent many dinners this week with your

608
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:49.920
family, and they too, revere
you. So I'm wondering if when your

609
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:55.760
daughter gets tearful, if it is
one of the only times in the world

610
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:04.199
that you feel vulnerable, and that
that's the place where you think she might

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be weak, but in fact,
it might be the experience of weakness and

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vulnerability that you're feeling. And I
am telling you. The longest sixty seconds

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of silence followed that answer, and
I thought, either someone's going to drop

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me off in the desert here and
I have never come home. But instead,

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you know, he surprised me.
He said, you know, Noah,

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this is exactly right. I am
an electro physiog. You know,

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he basically takes care of the heart
rhythms of babies right, a pediatric cardiologist,

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and in almost every setting in his
life he was in charge. And

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he said, this is absolutely right. He said, will you please come

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back again and teach us about these
emotions because I have a feeling they're driving

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everything and we're misunderstanding them. And
so it was this moment where we really

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bonded, and two years later he
had me come back again and teach them

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again. So it was an incredible
experience. I think it so says so

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much about one the power of emotions
to your fantastic ability to be able to

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communicate effectively with him in a way
that landed just the way that it needed

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to and produced an incredible result in
him. So that's why I wanted to

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really make sure that that story got
told before we finished. And with that,

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here we are toward the very very
end of the show already, doctor

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Naeha, So I want to give
you the last word. You know this,

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this program is about helping listeners across
the globe create more meaningful lives of

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passionate, inspiration and purpose. Saying
about a minute or so, what would

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you like to leave our listeners with. Well, I really want you to

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know that in this time, if
you're feeling anxious, you're feeling overwhelmed and

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stressed, this is the time for
you to up level yourself. That people

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have always said, oh, these
are the soft skills. Oh they can't

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be measured, you know what,
they can call them whatever they'd like to

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call them. These the experience of
you navigating yourself is the core of how

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you're going to elevate in the world
and get more of what you want.

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So there are practical, powerful tools
to unravel these mysterious experiences. You know

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that people haven't until now felt like
they could measure accurately. Well, I

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want you to know they're driving everything. And so I am just so honored

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that you were willing to spend your
time and energy learning about yourself. It

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gives me hope for the world and
that the book Talk Our access great.

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I also have many free YouTube videos
on these subjects, and you know,

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you can go to Doctorneha dot com
and you can get a bunch of free

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resources and videos of live coaching on
each of these topics. So yeah,

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that's really what I tell them,
that there's help out there, and if

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they're interested or they're feeling overwhelmed,
they're not alone. This is a time

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where we're all on a roller coaster
and we all get to co create the

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world that we are going to live
in. But we have to start with

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ourselves. We have to start with
ourselves and elevate our own consciousness and ability

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to communicate. What a beautiful way
to finish, Doctor Neahaw. You are

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such a gift to the world,
and I'm so grateful that you cross paths

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with me and I got to share
with my listeners. Thank you. Oh

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you are so welcome listeners. As
you heard her say, if you want

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to learn more about doctor Naha Sanguan, her book, her videos, her

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She's got various tools on her website. That website again is doctor Naha,

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So it's doctor d O C T
O R n e Ha dot com Doctor

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Naha dot com. Go there and
check that out. Last week, if

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you missed the live show, you
can always catch up recorded podcast. We

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were on the air with Marcus Buckingham
talking about his book Nine Lines about Work

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and now we can all create a
future workplace that brings out our unique best.

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Next week will be on the air
with Ray White, author of Connecting

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Happiness and Success and creator of the
Joyages app. See you there. Remember

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that works at least a third of
our life. So let's work on purpose.

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We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to tune in too

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Working on Purpose featuring your host,
doctor Elise Cortes each week on the Voice

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America Empowerment Channel. Together, we'll
create a world where business operates conscientiously,

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Leadership inspires impassioned performance, and employees
are fulfilled in work that provides the meaning

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and purpose they crave. See you
there, let's work on purpose,