Sept. 9, 2020
Level Up in Life through Strengths and Competencies to Reach Your Goals

Michael Oster has discovered a way to help high achievers “level up” in life. He’s created a framework that teaches people to harness competency-strengths combinations as “weapons of construction” to make progress on any issue in life. Being defined...
Michael Oster has discovered a way to help high achievers “level up” in life. He’s created a framework that teaches people to harness competency-strengths combinations as “weapons of construction” to make progress on any issue in life. Being defined by competencies, and informed by strengths, we are able to accomplish our goals more efficiently. And happily, the more we accomplish, the greater our motivation to reach for more.
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What's working on Purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.
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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately
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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that
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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be
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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,
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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want
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Working on Purpose now Here is your
host, Doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome back
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to the Working on Purpose Program.
Thanks for tuning in again this week.
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I'm your host, Doctor Lea's Cortes
too, any Lie from Dallas, Texas,
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which is home base for me.
If you've been tuning in for a
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while, you know program as a
thought leadership series that enlightens and inspires listeners
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with insights from distinguished business leaders and
subject matter experts. Our conversations are designed
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to make you think, inspire you
to reach ever higher for your cultivating your
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best, and take an informed approach
towards leadership and business. Before we get
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into today's conversation, I've got two
announcements for you. Two fun announcements.
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First September marks the launch of Gusto
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institute dedicated to awakening meaning, passion, inspiration and purpose and people leadership and
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their one precious life. Will be featuring
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individuals and companies in English, Spanish
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gustodashnow dot com. The second announcement
is my book Purpose Ignited, How Inspirational
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Leaders ignite passion and innovate Causes,
due out on November seventeenth. You can
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pre order it now on Amazon.
I wrote the book to turn lead readers
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on and ignite their passion, inspiration
and purpose, to make that contribution that
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I want for them and medically improve
the workplace as we know it. Today.
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I have a guest, Michael Astor, who will be joining us.
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We're having some technical difficulty getting him
on, so I hope he'll be able
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to join us shortly, So introduce
him quickly and hopefully we can he'll turn
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up soon. But I met Michael
on LinkedIn, as I have met many
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of my guests. He and I
were chatting about what was going on in
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the world. When I realized just
what it was that he does and the
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book that he wrote, I invited
him to the show. So he is
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a principal at Level Up Advisors and
he's the author of the book called Level
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Up. We'll be talking about how
we can use competencies as the channels to
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carry our personal strengths to our goals. He comes in today from scotstil Arizona.
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Once he shows up, so we're
waiting for him in the back studio
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here to be able to make his
connection while I'm waiting for him to join
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us. Let me just give a
little bit of background here. Part of
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the reason I wanted to have Michael
on the show is because I have a
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background myself in strengths. I am
a Gallop certified Strengths coach and I have
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been working with drinks and inside organizations
to develop leaders, develop teams, and
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also even families and teens, kids
down as young as eight years old.
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So I know the strengths domain very
very well. And so what Michael has
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done is he's really layered in an
approach to using strengths as a way to
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fortify your competencies. And he says, it's better better to be known for
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our competencies, and it is our
strengths, and we really use we anchor
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ourselves in our compencies, and we
are fueled by our strengths in order to
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reach our goals. That's the whole
premise of what his book is about.
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So I'm going to see here,
maybe just take a quick little break and
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see if I can get to call
him and see if he's able to make
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his connection yet. So stand by
force, don't go away, We'll be
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back. This is worth waiting for. Doctor release Cortez is a management consultant
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specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational
speaker and author. She helps companies visioneer
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for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that
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elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment
within the workforce. To learn more or
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to invite Elise to speak to your
organization, please visit her at Elisecortes dot
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com. Let's talk about how to
get your employees working on purpose. This
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is working on purpose with doctor Elise
Cortes. To reach our program today or
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open a conversation with Alise. Send
an email to Alise A l I s
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E at eleisecortes dot com. Now
back to Working on Purpose. Okay,
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here, here's what we're gonna do
with Michael. We're gonna we're gonna do
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this differently. You. I'm gonna
engage with you on the on the phone
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here like this, and I'm gonna
take you through our planned conversation. Uh.
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And I'm just gonna go ahead and
talk with you like this. So
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listeners and viewers, this is a
first. We are are literally creating the
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show differently as we speak. So
Michael, welcome to Working on Purpose.
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You're coming in through your cell phone. You're watching on YouTube, and you
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and I are going to do this
thing. Let's do it. Welcome all
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right, Well, thank you Aleise. I do see you, but we
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aren't in synchronization. Okay, let's
get cracking because we want to deliver for
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our listeners and our viewers. So
I already introduced her. They know who
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you are, they know how we
connected, why I think what you're doing
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is important. So I want to
just crack off with I know that you
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wrote the book Level Up for achievers
and those with high potential to become more
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successful and enjoy even more meaningful lives. See a little just a little bit
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about your background and why this population
of readers is your target. Well,
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that's a great that's a great question, Elise. My background a few lofty
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titles aside is serving as a church
sleeve leader, in manufacturing organizations and financial
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service organizations and in nonprofit profit organizations. And as you said, I wrote
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I wrote the book for leaders who
are facing new challenges, or high achievers
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who would like to take themselves to
the next level, or high potentials who
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would like to hit the ground running. And it's more than just generally for
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all of them, which is basically
all of us, right, it's for
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all of those people and all of
us who find ourselves with capacity we know
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to solve problems, but for some
reason we found ourselves stuck. Have you
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ever been stuck just a couple of
times in my life? Yeah, Well
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we were stuck right now, and
you engineered a work around. So this
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is strengths and competencies and actionalles.
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And so let's distinguish that. So
for this first part of the conversation,
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listeners and viewers, we're going to
talk about strengths, and then that's
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when we talk about competencies. But
let's distinguish those two. So you say
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in your book that strengths describe how
we think, feel, an act,
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and of course I know that being
a Gallp certified Strengths coach, and our
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competencies describe what we do with them. And you have created a method to
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combine those. So you say a
little bit about your approach and your method.
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So I have, and you know, strengths there I use and level
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up. I use two different sets
of strengths. I use the strengths we
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use to accomplish things in a work
environment, and the Gallop strengths, as
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you mentioned, are just great for
those. And there are thirty four Gallop
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strengths. And I also use the
VIA values in action a character strengths,
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and VIA has twenty four stringths.
So combine, we have a choice of
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thirty four work strengths and twenty four
character strengths. But if you've taken the
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for those of us who have taken
the Gallop survey or the VIA survey or
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any strength survey, we learn that, thank goodness, not all of those
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strengths are available to us. All
the time. Otherwise the number of choices
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we would face would be overwhelming,
wouldn't it. So you know, so
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thankfully we're all wired differently. And
although there are possible thirty four work strengths
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and twenty four character strengths, only
about the top twenty five percent of those
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are available and usable to us to
really make progress in our lives. So
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I look at how can we do
things with strengths? And the interesting thing
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abous strengths is they are a three
hundred and sixty degree burst of energy.
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You know, you've seen people express
strengths to excess. You've seen people express
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their strengths to an inadequate level,
and then there's you know, there's a
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Goldilocks level right, that's just right
just in the middle. But what do
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we do with those those strengths?
And what I've discovered the lease is that
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we can use competencies and I'll talk
a moment in a moment about those as
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conduits, as channels, if you
will, through which we can aim our
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natural strengths at our goals. Well, of course, you know, as
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let's just face it, Michael,
my number one gallop strength is achiever.
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So I'm all over that Okay,
got my attention. I want to divert
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just a little bit though, because
I can't resist. I saw something in
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your book that I have to sort
of It's kind of like a squirrel in
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me, if you will, Michael. But you quote Oprah saying how you
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spend your time defines who you are. I'm an identity researcher, and I
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really do know that how people how
what people put themselves into says who they
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are, which is why I usually
ask people that direct question. But what's
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your view on the statement? And
why is it important to strengths and companies?
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That's a good that's a good question, and that's a good catch and
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level of the leases. Uh thankfully
read read the book, all three hundred
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and seventy six pages of it in
a print version. And I use a
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lot of quotes because I love quotes. I find them inspirational and humorous and
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encouraging. And if, if,
if, if this planet does have a
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coining of self improvement, it would
have to be Oprah, right, I'm
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all, I think that's right.
Yes, you know, she just brings
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so much inspiration and hope to so
many. And what I heard when Oprah
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said how you spend your time defines
who you are. I heard her giving
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us a gentle reminder to be productive
for ourselves and for others, and I
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think, of course, in my
own humble opinion, that level up is
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just a great way to spend your
time, to be productive, to help
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yourself and to help others. Well, I agree. In fact, you
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even go further to say that you
declare that the desirable aspects of our character
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and the unique way we solve problems
and work with others are our strengths,
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which I think is a lot what
we're saying there, but it takes it
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a whole other step further. Like, So, I have this thing,
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Michael, where I talk about how
our purpose gives us a unique lens in
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the world, and through that purpose
we see opportunities and ways to solve problems
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and no one else can see.
And that's our purpose in action. So
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I feel like there is some sort
of alignment with that statement. What do
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you think, Well, I think
you're I think you're right on, Elise,
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and I'm really looking for to I
couldn't agree with you more about the
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tip of the iceberg. You just
showed us on purpose, and I'm looking
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forward to reading your writings and your
discoveries on it. Where strengths come into
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the equation, if you would call
it, that is further back in time,
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and even further back in time than
strengths are talents, and talents are
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down at the down at the granular, the molecular level we all have.
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There are probably thousands of different talents
and little things that we can can do,
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and things that define us and how
we think and how we act and
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how we behave. And they these
talents cluster together into more general categories that
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have been called strengths. And today
we're talking about work strengths and character strengths.
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And with regard to your question about
purpose, people have discovered that when
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they use their strengths the things that
they can naturally do, it not only
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gives them a sense of pleasure and
accomplishment, but it makes there it brings
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a sense of purpose into their love
lives if the goal they are working on
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is one of their unchoosing. Yeah, and so you bring up a really
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important point that we want our listeners
to understand is that the important thing about
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strengths is they have to bring you
pleasure when you do them. If they
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don't bring your pleasure. They're not
strengths. They're just a talent. They're
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just a skill, or better to
say it, they're just a skill.
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So, for example, Michael,
I always like to say when I'm talking
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about this stuff, is that I
happen to be a really fabulous typist.
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But do I want to do that
all day? No? It does not
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bring me joy, does not bring
me pleasure, So therefore it's not a
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strength, it's just a skill.
Different. Well, I would submit that
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there isn't a way that your type
could give you could give you pleasure because
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you just mentioned that your very first, your very top strength as achiever.
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Right, yeah, So if you
want online and Google on your browser bar
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typing test, and you took a
typing test and it gave you this really
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high number that the least can can
post, you had sense you would have
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a sense of accomplishment. Yes,
I would, But there's so much more
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that I want to do in the
world in type. Just the result is
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I'm typing, But typing, as
is really almost everything in our lives a
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means to an end, right right, right? If I'm typing a fantastic
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manuscript, I you're right, I
mean and let's face it, I spent
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a lot hours typing that manuscript in
the book that's coming out on the seventeenth.
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Let's do this, Michael. Let's
take a one last final break so
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that in that break us into another
link and so we'll get to try to
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get you back on. Stay on
with me. But listeners and viewers,
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let's take our final break here,
and they're going to go long, hard
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through the rest of this, so
we'll be right back. Mike, stay
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on with me on the on the
phone here, and listeners will be right
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back. Thank you so much for
your patients. Doctor Elise Cortes is a
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management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose
and inspirational speaker and author. She helps
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companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders
and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused
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cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,
and commitment within the workforce. To learn
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more or to invite Elise to speak
to your organization, please visit her at
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Elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about
how to get your employees working on purpose.
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This is working on purpose with doctor
Elise Cortes. To reach our program
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today or open a conversation with Elise. Send an email to Elise Alise at
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Elisecortes dot com. Now back to
Working on Purpose. Thanks for staying with
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us, and welcome back to Working
on Purpose. If you're just tuning in.
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My guest is Michael Auster. He's
the principle of Level of Advisors and
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the author of the book Level Up. It brings this twenty plus years of
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experience as a CEO and Board of
Directors leader to help his clients be the
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best possible versions of themselves. I'm
your host doctor at Least Cortes. As
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you know, listeners and viewers,
we've been having some techniclitions getting Michael into
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the actual video studio, but that's
okay. We've got him here on the
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phone again, Ron, but he
can't hide. I'm pretty fast. So
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what we want to do now,
Michael is it's go on to the competencies
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aspect of the conversation. And one
are the things that you did, which
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of course delighted me because I know
he's worked psychology professor David McClellan. You
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cite his definition of a competency,
a competency as the underlying characteristics of people
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which enables them to deliver superior performance
in a given job, role, or
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situation. So what I want to
get for our listeners and viewers is help
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us understand how engaging our strength helps
us accomplish things and relates to our competencies.
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Well back to considering that strengths are
kind of a three hundred and sixty
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degree burst of energy at least,
I love that. You know, we
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imagine we have our We imagine on
the left side of the field, we
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have all of our signature strengths,
those strengths that are in our top twenty
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five percent and are already will enablement
on the right side or the uprights are
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on the field are our goals and
how do we how do we get there?
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And strengths we can hope that if
we are that if we just do
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things that we think are use useful
of our strengths, that we will get
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to the goal. But I've found
that competencies, and I've discovered and put
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pen to paper and created seventeen universal
competencies can serve as the conduits through which
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we can press our strengths toward the
goal. Imagine the barrel of a rifle
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and imagine a bullet could go any
direction and imagine the competency is like the
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barrel or a channel to aim your
strengths directly at your goals. Works for
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me. Yeah, and so what
was so great when I noticed you had
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to you correct me if I'm wrong, because I took a lot of notes
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as I read your book. That's
what I do, right, I can't
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help, but I'm one of my
other My second strength is learner. So
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this is one of the reasons I
keep hosting the show. Michael. So
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I can need great people like you
read your books and learn something. But
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if I have it right, the
five categories of competencies that you have are
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strategic thinking, thinking, strategically,
navigating change, meeting people, driving results,
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developing self. Is that right?
That's absolutely right. Okay, so
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I fell into the leading people camp, of which I was happy to That
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was fun. But tell us a
little bit more about those are pretty I
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can see a very definitive separation of
those those categories. So help us aspettle
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bit more about how they're distinguished.
Well, at least you just described the
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what I call the five categories of
competencies. Yes, so in a level
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of at we look at strengths and
I put the strengths, all fifty eight
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of them, and assigned them into
five arbitrary from my point of view,
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but through empirical observation, five sets
of strengths and the competencies the ones you
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just mentioned thinking strategically, which is
all about shaping our future. Navigating change,
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which is all about what we're all
doing right now right making it transition.
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Yes, the number three one,
which is a place where you live
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in a very very successful way,
leading people. That's all about working with
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others. And the fourth one is
driving the results, which is implementing your
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plans. And then finally, as
you said, developing yourself, which is,
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you know, keep taking self care, bettering yourself. Each each one
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of these because we have seventeen competencies
in these five categories, we can talk
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a little bit if you'd like,
about what the competencies are within each one
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of these categories. I think that
would really help our listeners and reviewers.
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Please go ahead, yes, well
let's do that. So to set the
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stage thinking about the future, we
call that the competency of thinking strategically.
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And then all starts with creating your
vision, right, what is what is
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the place that you want to go? Where you can be the best person
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you want to be and the best
person you can be. And you know,
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vision is kind of a touchy feely
term, but it's not really an
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indistinct concept. Long term visions are
because if you have if you're talking about
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long term visions for five, ten, twenty years, you're talking about something
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that's approaching perfection and it's just outside
of the realm of human human capability to
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act on things that you're trying to
make occur in the in the distant future.
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But if we set intermediate intermediate vision
goals, and I would say between
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one and three years, you know, pick the midpoint there, eighteen months,
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most of us say, oh,
you know, in a year and
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a half, if I have some
things i'd like to be better at and
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I'd like to be in a different
place, I'm going to adopt that picture
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or is my vision. So that's
the beginning of thinking strategically. And then
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from thinking strategically, we go into
the competency of making decisions, which is
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how we're going to get how we're
going to get closer to the vision.
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And then the last part, the
last competency and thinking strategically is developing the
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plans that will take us in the
direction of that vision. And then we
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get to uh, the number number
two in the in the category of competencies,
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which is navigating change. But so, what what do we think has
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happened in this current this current environment
that we're in, right is the thinking
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strategically is now in second place to
navigating change, because we're all in a
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reactive position, aren't we to this, uh, to this current unpleasantness?
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So you know, we can adapt
to that, we can we can switch
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those around for the time being.
And the competencies and navigating change or first
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of all, tolerating risk, you
know, being putting some elasticity in your
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own ability to give and take,
you know, as a as a wooden
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ship would in a storm, so
it doesn't break The second competency and navigating
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changes negotiating there are lots of negotiations
we have to make with with ourselves and
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with others. And then finally communicating. Clearly, the most powerful competency during
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times of transition is to keep the
communication open. Now, that's also a
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very important part of the next category
of competencies, which is leading people.
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Of course it is and you know, an interesting, interesting the thing about
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competencies is that they are kind of
free range. You know, some of
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these competencies can be moved underneath different
categories. For example, communicating clearly can
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be moved easily under leading people,
right, absolutely, In fact, I
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hope that's it's a must, especially
if I tell people be good at storytelling,
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which is communicating. Of course,
yes, well that's the highest form
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of communicating. Those who can tell
stories, I wish I could. And
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so, you know, to begin
with leading people, the strongest competency is
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what building collaborative, collaborative relationships with
them and inspiring other people, developing others,
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influencing others, and then leading leading
teams and finally, of course managing
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conflict. All about that last one, that's my jam, Michael, That's
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totally my jam. That sorry,
keep going. So, uh, you
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know it's interesting leading leading people,
which is what your show is all about,
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right, is smack dab in the
middle between the competencies of navigating change
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and driving results. You know,
so if if you don't, if you
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don't have the flexibility in place and
you have the leadership in place, driving
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results in an organization is going to
be impossible. But if you do have
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them, in place, you're going
to be ready, and uh, driving
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results is I won't say it's the
easier part, but it certainly is the
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simplest part because there are only two
competencies in driving results. Number one taking
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the initiative and number two executing.
That's it, markets go, let's go,
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let's do this thing. Let's do
it. And you know, and
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of course in organizational goals, as
you're using the competencies, you're going back
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and forth and you're circling back.
You know, as you're driving results,
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you're going to go back and recheck
your plans and your vision, you know,
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and give it a reality check.
And then our last, our last
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category of competencies is about self care, developing self bettering yourself and the three
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competencies there that are just just so
just such a great place to spend time
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with your strengths. On to end
a sentence, centive proposition is continually learning,
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acting professionally, and continuously improving.
I like it. I certainly hope
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that I am doing that as well. But okay, so that was that
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was a fantastic way for our listeners
to get just kind of a little bit
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of a a light spread, if
you will, a brushstroke about what you've
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done here. Now I want to
just have to ask, of course,
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about the flow question you talking in
your book about how strengths and competencies can
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allow us to be in a flow
state. And now you also have to
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tell me how to how to pronounce
However, McCauley's last name is. I
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know I've been saying it wrong,
and you give us, you give us
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an aid to pronounce it correctly.
So first, what is what's his name?
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And then talk to us about flow? That guy? Okay, that
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guy, well, that guy he
was a i'm Urian American psychologist and this
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he cindified the concept of flow twelve
years ago. And his name you'd never
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be able to spell it, and
it's very hard to pronounce. And the
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way this pronounced is Mahayi. Chick
said Mahai. And I'll say that again
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because it sounds like I'm tripping over
my own tongue here, but Mahaii.
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And his last name is accept,
Mahayi accept Mahi. Oh my gosh,
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I'm so from anything that I've been
saying over all these years. I know
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who this man is. Okay,
it doesn't look like that, it's not
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spelled fanatically. Let's put it that. Yeah. So he he discovered that
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there is a state of being or
you feel energized and completely focused. Time
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stands still, nothing seems to matter, and you're in a state of complete
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concentration and absorption. And it has
I'll just pause for a moment here,
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just so we can ask ourselves,
as this ever happened to us? Have
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we ever felt that way while we're
working? This is the important thing for
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people to get, is we're talking
about actually while we're working. While we're
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working, absolutely, and so you
hit upon some of the some of the
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indicators that were in the state of
flow, and uh, you know it's
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time. Uh, time passes quickly. We we see a clarity uh uh
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how our efforts can help us achieve
our goals. Uh. We we get
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some nice neurotransmitters that give us a
sense of ecstasy. Right, and time
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stands still. And and finally,
at least the one that I think we
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all like the best is we look
forward to doing this thing again. And
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those are the indicators that we are
in this state of flow. And uh.
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The and he goes on to speak
about how flow leads to happiness,
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and you know, positive Since he's
written, since he's written his book and
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his text on flow in two thousand
and eight, there's been a lot of
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work done on happiness, you know, and the study of positive psychology they
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call that now, which was you
know, Aristotle's started the ball rolling in
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that direction. But I have found
that, you know, so we've heard
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a lot of the same concepts,
right, the concepts about what our strengths
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and how do we feel when we
use them? And guess what how we
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feel when we use them are the
same way as we feel when we're in
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Chick sent Mahaye's flow, right.
And the question then becomes, how do
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we get into that state of low
and use our strengths? And we have
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the answer right here, competencies.
Competencies can take your strengths toward your goals
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and you will feel in a state
of flow. You've done it intentionally,
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you've done it carefully, and you're
using the things that you have naturally as
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a human being to bring yourself both
productivity and happiness. I like it.
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It works for me. I'm trying
to help more people across the globe achieve
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that as you are. So now
let's talk next about about goals and the
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application of what you come up with
here. So I am one of those
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people, Michael. I am a
very cool oriented people. People say that
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you take on too much, and
I'm like, but I only got this
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one precious life. I want to, I want to, I want to
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make it all happen, and I
do resolutions all the kind of things.
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So I love goals and I appreciate
how you say our goals help give us
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a purpose, of course, So
will you distinguish for us? For you
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talk about organizational and personal goals?
Well, it's a good it's a good
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it's a good question. And you
know, I think that to me,
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the biggest difference at least between organizational
goals and personal goals is that are is
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it? Organizational goals serve two masters, right, They serve the organization and
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and they serve us because they help
us improve ourselves in ways that we can
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do when we're working with others.
And that's the whole purpose of organizations is
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to accomplish something working with others.
And personal goals serve just one master,
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right, they serve just us.
So the driver of personal goals can and
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should always start with a vision.
Right now, we're not so lucky unless
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we are at the very very top
of the food chain pyramid of an organization
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that that are that our personal goal
is the same as our organizational goal,
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because the organizational goal is there to
help the organization. If it's a for
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profit of UH, it's UH to
reward the shareholders and the stakeholders. And
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if it's a nonprofit, it's to
better deliver on the mission. Mm hmmm
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hmm. And I think you said
something in your book which I really was
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gravitating to. I think you also
used push pull language, did you not?
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Would you say that? Yeah?
Did you use push pull language?
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Oh? I might have that,
And that's very very important for me because
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it gets to intrinsic versus extensic motivation. Oh well, share share a bit
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on that. Well, So what
I what I think I got was,
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if I got this right, was
I think the way that situated the organizational
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goals. Yes, they have two
masters, but they're really kind of you
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know, they're pushing us because they're
they're part of what's right and that's part
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of what we are to be impart
of the organization, whereas our personal goals
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pull us towards something pollstered our vision, which is something that is beyond us,
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and if we do our vision well, inspires us and pulls us into
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it. So it's that whole push
pull motivation that I think is really important
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to distinguish for our listeners. Dealers. Thank you for reminding me, as
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I get via little help from my
friends, right, Michael, learn us
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together? Awsome? Okay, Right, so now let's do this because this
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is this is so great because I
think people think about goals and vision in
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a way that's probably gets a little
bit money. And so you actually have
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a fantastic thing that you do in
your book and that you instruct your readers
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to use their vision, values and
strengths to determine their best goals for themselves.
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I doubt heavily that many of the
people are listening and watching the right
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now it really considered that level of
finiteness to a vision or goal. So
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say more about that? Well,
sure you know the they're as human beings,
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are thinking, thinking beings, and
they're acting beings. And a way
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that I like to think about how
we connect the ways we we think and
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the things we desire with our actions
is to encourage ourselves to act with intention.
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So if we go back to the
competencies and just just remembering for a
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moment here that the first competency discussed
was setting a vision, and then I
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encourage with the seven steps to level
up, which I suppose we're going to
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talk about in a moment here,
encourage people to set a vision, and
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actually now it's a good time to
talk about that is, set your own
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personal vision, and then think about
what's the difference. You know what they
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call the gap analysis, which is
the difference on a point in time between
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where you would like to be and
where you are, and over time,
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it's where you will go if you
don't change anything, versus where you can
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go if you do, if you
act with intention and parenthetically use your strengths
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and competencies to achieve your goals.
So I lay out seven very straightforward steps
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that are just based on the ancient
scientific method to encourage people to set a
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vision for themselves, take a look
at where they are if they don't do
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anything, versus where they would like
to see themselves, and then to use
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what they've got to get where they
want to go. Start by setting goals,
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and not more than three goals,
and you just can't work on more
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than three goals, and for each
one of those goals, set three objectives
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you know, three smaller goals and
start by working on the easiest objective of
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the most important goal you know.
In other words, go for a small
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win early, and to do that
with intention. The whole key is is
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purposely and consciously pick a competency strength
combination. And this is really the secret
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sauce of Level up is if you
combine a competency you would like to you
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would like to get better in with
a strength that you have that is a
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competency strength combination that when you put
those two together, will help you not
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only achieve your objective or your goal, but it actually becomes hardwired into you
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as a person. You can draw
upon it. It's a tool, like
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a nice tool in the top level
of your toolbox that you can reach for
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without looking and know how to use
it in the dark. Right and yeah,
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it's at the ready. I love
that and it's so exciting. And
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one of the reasons that I wanted
to have you in the show is because,
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as I say, I am a
very goal oriented person and I really
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believe in we've one precious life.
Let's live it to its fullest. So
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I really think that the frame of
you created really does help literally level people
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up to that and so I terribly
appreciate that. And now I want to
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go back to what you said before
about where we are in this whole,
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this whole pandemic and the change that
it has elicited. So literally, twenty
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twenty has entirely changed the way that
we live, the way that we work,
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and I would I think it's irreversible. I don't think we can really
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go back to the way we were
entirely. So I would be interested,
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Michael, and what insights you have
about what companies and leaders can do to
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meet the needs of a workforce that
creates meaning and connection in a time when
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they can't actually connect. Well,
that's the that's the sixty four dollars question,
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isn't it? Because the poor or
you know, I say poor,
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I mean as the organizational leaders are
going through a very difficult time. You
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know, they need you know,
everybody in an organization is in suspension,
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right they have and by that I
mean in the physical sense, they have
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people above them who they need to
please, they need to please themselves,
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and they have people working for them
and with them. Who they need to
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take care of, and people are
you know, I just sit in admiration
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of how wonderful people are doing the
best they can with such limited abilities to
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communicate. And the thing that organizations
give is instant access to communication. You
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know, it used to be the
office, and then it became automobiles and
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then airplanes and on the internet,
but it was always we always had access
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to four dimensions. And the thing
that's missing now is one of the dimensions,
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depth has been taken has been taken
away. And you know, we
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have the breadth and the width,
and we have time, but people don't
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have a sense of the third dimension
that gives you the three dimensional experience.
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And it's hard on the psyche,
you know, it's uh and it's you
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know, we're already starting to see
some you know, as they say,
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snow melts around the edges right,
not in the middle, you know,
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and we're starting to see that it's
taking some wear and tear on people.
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And oh my goodness, I just
hope that the sooner this thing is over
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for the for the general psychological health
of the population of the world, the
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better, because it's it's very difficult, and people are doing great so to
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your given what they can do to
your question at least, which is a
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great question, I think one thing
that companies and leaders can do is to
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help employees UH and their team members
and the people they collaborate with have a
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better sense of meaning in their lives. Because you know, we're not talking
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about it's not the industrial revolution where
our goal is to commoditize labor, right,
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It's is the more organizations can help
their individuals discover their strengths, and
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the more they can do to help
them encourage them use their strengths, and
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the more they can do to help
people acknowledge and value and treasure working with
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people who have different strengths, The
more meaning and purpose it will give to
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people, the more sense of hope
and encouragement and I think inspiration all the
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way around. Well, I do
agree with that. In fact, what
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I have found, Michael, is
that a couple of my clients that I've
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done leadership development work for or team
building work for, Callbeebacks and Hales.
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We're dying at the buying what can
you do for us? And so I've
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done I've done some well being and
meaning kind of connective work with them,
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just along the lines that you're talking
about, because I really appreciated how you
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distinguish that. It's depth that we're
missing. And so listeners and viewers,
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right if you can construct rings,
oh my gosh, that's why it feels
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hollow to me. That's why I
don't feel fulfilled, because you're missing the
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depth. So I really appreciate how
you distinguish that for us, Michael,
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beautiful. I want to also give
a call out to your book and the
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way that you helped us. Because
it is a long book. There's if
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there's a lot of information that you
put in that book, Michael, kudos
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for that. But one of the
things that you do that really helps is
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you do that you know, here's
the big idea, Like I want you
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to really pay attention to this,
So listeners and viewers when you go to
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look for his book, that helps
you really navigate the final points, and
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that brings it all home. All
right, Michael, here it is.
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We've finally gotten close to the end
of the show already, even though we
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had technical difficulties, and I've been
holding you in my hand this whole time.
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You're right right right, all cuddled
up in my hand. Here.
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This program is listening to and watched
by people from all over the world.
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And it's really designed to help people
more meaningfully experience their work and contribute more
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deeply with and through it. With
that, what would you like to leave
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our listeners and viewers with today,
Well, thanks thanks to the opportunity to
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to think about that allowed at least. And I love the work. I
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love the work you're doing. And
I will kind of uh tag tag along
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with the theme of intention and meaningfulness
and and purpose uh and to try to
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give us some comments about how level
up might fit into that given the times,
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the times that we're in. And
I think my first my first bit
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of encouragement would be to do what
you can, uh with what you have.
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You know there there are there are
just fewer resources available. And uh
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this the sense of time has gotten
all out of whack. But our sense
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of accomplishing things one thing at a
time, remember like like baby steps is
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still the best way forward. You
know, the journey of a thousand miles
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begins with the first step. And
you know in that vein, I would
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just encourage us to use what we
have, our strengths. There are natural
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abilities, our competencies to accomplish accomplished
the things we want to and number two
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is is celebrate those small wins.
Yes, kis with that. Michael,
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I've got to let you. I
got to stop you so I can send
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them to your website. Sorry that, I'll celebrate all day with you.
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Thank you for making this work being
in the palm of my hand, sharing
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your passion with us. Listeners.
If you want to learn more about Michael
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Auster, his book Level Up,
or the work they do at Level of
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Advisors, go to Level up Advisors
dot Solutions. Last week, you you
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missed the live show you know I
was kid to be a recorded podcast.
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We were on James Sinclair of Alumni
Network talking about the power of activating alumni
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for bench strength, boomerang hires,
marketing, and community concerns. Next week
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we'll be on the air with Jeff
Lovejoy talking about his leaderships new Thought Leadership
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launche to you there. Remember that
work is at least a better life,
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So let's work on purpose. We
hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be
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sure to tune in to Working on
Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,
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each week on the Voice America Empowerment
Channel. Together We'll create a world
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where business operates conscientiously, leadership inspires
impassioned performance, and employees are fulfilled in
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work that provides the meaning and purpose
they crave. See you there. Let's
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work on purpose.
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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that
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Thanks for tuning in again this week.
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I'm your host, Doctor Lea's Cortes
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which is home base for me.
If you've been tuning in for a
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I have a guest, Michael Astor, who will be joining us.
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to join us shortly, So introduce
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up soon. But I met Michael
on LinkedIn, as I have met many
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of my guests. He and I
were chatting about what was going on in
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the world. When I realized just
what it was that he does and the
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book that he wrote, I invited
him to the show. So he is
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a principal at Level Up Advisors and
he's the author of the book called Level
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Up. We'll be talking about how
we can use competencies as the channels to
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carry our personal strengths to our goals. He comes in today from scotstil Arizona.
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Once he shows up, so we're
waiting for him in the back studio
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here to be able to make his
connection while I'm waiting for him to join
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us. Let me just give a
little bit of background here. Part of
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the reason I wanted to have Michael
on the show is because I have a
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background myself in strengths. I am
a Gallop certified Strengths coach and I have
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been working with drinks and inside organizations
to develop leaders, develop teams, and
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also even families and teens, kids
down as young as eight years old.
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So I know the strengths domain very
very well. And so what Michael has
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done is he's really layered in an
approach to using strengths as a way to
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fortify your competencies. And he says, it's better better to be known for
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our competencies, and it is our
strengths, and we really use we anchor
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ourselves in our compencies, and we
are fueled by our strengths in order to
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reach our goals. That's the whole
premise of what his book is about.
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So I'm going to see here,
maybe just take a quick little break and
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see if I can get to call
him and see if he's able to make
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his connection yet. So stand by
force, don't go away, We'll be
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back. This is worth waiting for. Doctor release Cortez is a management consultant
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specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational
speaker and author. She helps companies visioneer
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for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that
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elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment
within the workforce. To learn more or
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to invite Elise to speak to your
organization, please visit her at Elisecortes dot
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com. Let's talk about how to
get your employees working on purpose. This
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is working on purpose with doctor Elise
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open a conversation with Alise. Send
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E at eleisecortes dot com. Now
back to Working on Purpose. Okay,
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here, here's what we're gonna do
with Michael. We're gonna we're gonna do
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this differently. You. I'm gonna
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here like this, and I'm gonna
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Michael, welcome to Working on Purpose.
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right, Well, thank you Aleise. I do see you, but we
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aren't in synchronization. Okay, let's
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our listeners and our viewers. So
I already introduced her. They know who
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you are, they know how we
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is important. So I want to
just crack off with I know that you
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wrote the book Level Up for achievers
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successful and enjoy even more meaningful lives. See a little just a little bit
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about your background and why this population
of readers is your target. Well,
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that's a great that's a great question, Elise. My background a few lofty
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titles aside is serving as a church
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service organizations and in nonprofit profit organizations. And as you said, I wrote
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I wrote the book for leaders who
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who would like to take themselves to
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would like to hit the ground running. And it's more than just generally for
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all of them, which is basically
all of us, right, it's for
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all of those people and all of
us who find ourselves with capacity we know
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to solve problems, but for some
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ever been stuck just a couple of
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we were stuck right now, and
you engineered a work around. So this
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is strengths and competencies and actionalles.
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when we talk about competencies. But
let's distinguish those two. So you say
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in your book that strengths describe how
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and of course I know that being
a Gallp certified Strengths coach, and our
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competencies describe what we do with them. And you have created a method to
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combine those. So you say a
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up. I use two different sets
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use to accomplish things in a work
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you mentioned, are just great for
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strengths. And I also use the
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and VIA has twenty four stringths.
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thirty four work strengths and twenty four
character strengths. But if you've taken the
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for those of us who have taken
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any strength survey, we learn that, thank goodness, not all of those
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strengths are available to us. All
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we would face would be overwhelming,
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thankfully we're all wired differently. And
although there are possible thirty four work strengths
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and twenty four character strengths, only
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are available and usable to us to
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I look at how can we do
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abous strengths is they are a three
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You know, you've seen people express
strengths to excess. You've seen people express
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their strengths to an inadequate level,
and then there's you know, there's a
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Goldilocks level right, that's just right
just in the middle. But what do
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we do with those those strengths?
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we can use competencies and I'll talk
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conduits, as channels, if you
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natural strengths at our goals. Well, of course, you know, as
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let's just face it, Michael,
my number one gallop strength is achiever.
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So I'm all over that Okay,
got my attention. I want to divert
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just a little bit though, because
I can't resist. I saw something in
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your book that I have to sort
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me, if you will, Michael. But you quote Oprah saying how you
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spend your time defines who you are. I'm an identity researcher, and I
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really do know that how people how
what people put themselves into says who they
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are, which is why I usually
ask people that direct question. But what's
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your view on the statement? And
why is it important to strengths and companies?
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level of the leases. Uh thankfully
read read the book, all three hundred
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and seventy six pages of it in
a print version. And I use a
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lot of quotes because I love quotes. I find them inspirational and humorous and
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encouraging. And if, if,
if, if this planet does have a
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coining of self improvement, it would
have to be Oprah, right, I'm
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all, I think that's right.
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so much inspiration and hope to so
many. And what I heard when Oprah
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said how you spend your time defines
who you are. I heard her giving
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us a gentle reminder to be productive
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think, of course, in my
own humble opinion, that level up is
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just a great way to spend your
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yourself and to help others. Well, I agree. In fact, you
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even go further to say that you
declare that the desirable aspects of our character
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and the unique way we solve problems
and work with others are our strengths,
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which I think is a lot what
we're saying there, but it takes it
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a whole other step further. Like, So, I have this thing,
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Michael, where I talk about how
our purpose gives us a unique lens in
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the world, and through that purpose
we see opportunities and ways to solve problems
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and no one else can see.
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I feel like there is some sort
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you think, Well, I think
you're I think you're right on, Elise,
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and I'm really looking for to I
couldn't agree with you more about the
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tip of the iceberg. You just
showed us on purpose, and I'm looking
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forward to reading your writings and your
discoveries on it. Where strengths come into
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the equation, if you would call
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and even further back in time than
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down at the down at the granular, the molecular level we all have.
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There are probably thousands of different talents
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and things that define us and how
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how we behave. And they these
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have been called strengths. And today
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they use their strengths the things that
they can naturally do, it not only
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gives them a sense of pleasure and
accomplishment, but it makes there it brings
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a sense of purpose into their love
lives if the goal they are working on
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is one of their unchoosing. Yeah, and so you bring up a really
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important point that we want our listeners
to understand is that the important thing about
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strengths is they have to bring you
pleasure when you do them. If they
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don't bring your pleasure. They're not
strengths. They're just a talent. They're
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just a skill, or better to
say it, they're just a skill.
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I always like to say when I'm talking
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about this stuff, is that I
happen to be a really fabulous typist.
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all day? No? It does not
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bring me joy, does not bring
me pleasure, So therefore it's not a
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strength, it's just a skill.
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there isn't a way that your type
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you just mentioned that your very first, your very top strength as achiever.
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typing test, and you took a
typing test and it gave you this really
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high number that the least can can
post, you had sense you would have
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a sense of accomplishment. Yes,
I would, But there's so much more
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that I want to do in the
world in type. Just the result is
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I'm typing, But typing, as
is really almost everything in our lives a
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means to an end, right right, right? If I'm typing a fantastic
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manuscript, I you're right, I
mean and let's face it, I spent
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a lot hours typing that manuscript in
the book that's coming out on the seventeenth.
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Let's do this, Michael. Let's
take a one last final break so
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that in that break us into another
link and so we'll get to try to
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get you back on. Stay on
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let's take our final break here,
and they're going to go long, hard
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through the rest of this, so
we'll be right back. Mike, stay
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on with me on the on the
phone here, and listeners will be right
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back. Thank you so much for
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management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose
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companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders
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Working on Purpose. Thanks for staying with
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us, and welcome back to Working
on Purpose. If you're just tuning in.
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My guest is Michael Auster. He's
the principle of Level of Advisors and
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the author of the book Level Up. It brings this twenty plus years of
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experience as a CEO and Board of
Directors leader to help his clients be the
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best possible versions of themselves. I'm
your host doctor at Least Cortes. As
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you know, listeners and viewers,
we've been having some techniclitions getting Michael into
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the actual video studio, but that's
okay. We've got him here on the
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phone again, Ron, but he
can't hide. I'm pretty fast. So
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what we want to do now,
Michael is it's go on to the competencies
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aspect of the conversation. And one
are the things that you did, which
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of course delighted me because I know
he's worked psychology professor David McClellan. You
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cite his definition of a competency,
a competency as the underlying characteristics of people
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which enables them to deliver superior performance
in a given job, role, or
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situation. So what I want to
get for our listeners and viewers is help
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us understand how engaging our strength helps
us accomplish things and relates to our competencies.
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Well back to considering that strengths are
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degree burst of energy at least,
I love that. You know, we
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imagine we have our We imagine on
the left side of the field, we
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have all of our signature strengths,
those strengths that are in our top twenty
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five percent and are already will enablement
on the right side or the uprights are
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on the field are our goals and
how do we how do we get there?
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we are that if we just do
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things that we think are use useful
of our strengths, that we will get
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to the goal. But I've found
that competencies, and I've discovered and put
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pen to paper and created seventeen universal
competencies can serve as the conduits through which
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we can press our strengths toward the
goal. Imagine the barrel of a rifle
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and imagine a bullet could go any
direction and imagine the competency is like the
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barrel or a channel to aim your
strengths directly at your goals. Works for
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me. Yeah, and so what
was so great when I noticed you had
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to you correct me if I'm wrong, because I took a lot of notes
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as I read your book. That's
what I do, right, I can't
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help, but I'm one of my
other My second strength is learner. So
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this is one of the reasons I
keep hosting the show. Michael. So
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I can need great people like you
read your books and learn something. But
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if I have it right, the
five categories of competencies that you have are
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strategic thinking, thinking, strategically,
navigating change, meeting people, driving results,
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developing self. Is that right?
That's absolutely right. Okay, so
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I fell into the leading people camp, of which I was happy to That
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was fun. But tell us a
little bit more about those are pretty I
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can see a very definitive separation of
those those categories. So help us aspettle
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bit more about how they're distinguished.
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what I call the five categories of
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of at we look at strengths and
I put the strengths, all fifty eight
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of them, and assigned them into
five arbitrary from my point of view,
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but through empirical observation, five sets
of strengths and the competencies the ones you
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just mentioned thinking strategically, which is
all about shaping our future. Navigating change,
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which is all about what we're all
doing right now right making it transition.
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Yes, the number three one,
which is a place where you live
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in a very very successful way,
leading people. That's all about working with
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others. And the fourth one is
driving the results, which is implementing your
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plans. And then finally, as
you said, developing yourself, which is,
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you know, keep taking self care, bettering yourself. Each each one
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of these because we have seventeen competencies
in these five categories, we can talk
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a little bit if you'd like,
about what the competencies are within each one
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of these categories. I think that
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Please go ahead, yes, well
let's do that. So to set the
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stage thinking about the future, we
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And then all starts with creating your
vision, right, what is what is
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the place that you want to go? Where you can be the best person
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you want to be and the best
person you can be. And you know,
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vision is kind of a touchy feely
term, but it's not really an
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indistinct concept. Long term visions are
because if you have if you're talking about
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long term visions for five, ten, twenty years, you're talking about something
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that's approaching perfection and it's just outside
of the realm of human human capability to
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act on things that you're trying to
make occur in the in the distant future.
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But if we set intermediate intermediate vision
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one and three years, you know, pick the midpoint there, eighteen months,
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most of us say, oh,
you know, in a year and
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a half, if I have some
things i'd like to be better at and
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I'd like to be in a different
place, I'm going to adopt that picture
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or is my vision. So that's
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from thinking strategically, we go into
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how we're going to get how we're
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last competency and thinking strategically is developing the
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plans that will take us in the
direction of that vision. And then we
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get to uh, the number number
two in the in the category of competencies,
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which is navigating change. But so, what what do we think has
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happened in this current this current environment
that we're in, right is the thinking
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strategically is now in second place to
navigating change, because we're all in a
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reactive position, aren't we to this, uh, to this current unpleasantness?
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So you know, we can adapt
to that, we can we can switch
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those around for the time being.
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of all, tolerating risk, you
know, being putting some elasticity in your
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own ability to give and take,
you know, as a as a wooden
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ship would in a storm, so
it doesn't break The second competency and navigating
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changes negotiating there are lots of negotiations
we have to make with with ourselves and
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with others. And then finally communicating. Clearly, the most powerful competency during
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times of transition is to keep the
communication open. Now, that's also a
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very important part of the next category
of competencies, which is leading people.
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competencies is that they are kind of
free range. You know, some of
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these competencies can be moved underneath different
categories. For example, communicating clearly can
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be moved easily under leading people,
right, absolutely, In fact, I
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hope that's it's a must, especially
if I tell people be good at storytelling,
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which is communicating. Of course,
yes, well that's the highest form
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of communicating. Those who can tell
stories, I wish I could. And
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so, you know, to begin
with leading people, the strongest competency is
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what building collaborative, collaborative relationships with
them and inspiring other people, developing others,
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influencing others, and then leading leading
teams and finally, of course managing
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conflict. All about that last one, that's my jam, Michael, That's
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totally my jam. That sorry,
keep going. So, uh, you
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know it's interesting leading leading people,
which is what your show is all about,
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right, is smack dab in the
middle between the competencies of navigating change
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and driving results. You know,
so if if you don't, if you
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don't have the flexibility in place and
you have the leadership in place, driving
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results in an organization is going to
be impossible. But if you do have
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them, in place, you're going
to be ready, and uh, driving
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results is I won't say it's the
easier part, but it certainly is the
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simplest part because there are only two
competencies in driving results. Number one taking
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the initiative and number two executing.
That's it, markets go, let's go,
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let's do this thing. Let's do
it. And you know, and
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of course in organizational goals, as
you're using the competencies, you're going back
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and forth and you're circling back.
You know, as you're driving results,
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you're going to go back and recheck
your plans and your vision, you know,
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and give it a reality check.
And then our last, our last
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category of competencies is about self care, developing self bettering yourself and the three
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competencies there that are just just so
just such a great place to spend time
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with your strengths. On to end
a sentence, centive proposition is continually learning,
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acting professionally, and continuously improving.
I like it. I certainly hope
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that I am doing that as well. But okay, so that was that
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was a fantastic way for our listeners
to get just kind of a little bit
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of a a light spread, if
you will, a brushstroke about what you've
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done here. Now I want to
just have to ask, of course,
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about the flow question you talking in
your book about how strengths and competencies can
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allow us to be in a flow
state. And now you also have to
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tell me how to how to pronounce
However, McCauley's last name is. I
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know I've been saying it wrong,
and you give us, you give us
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an aid to pronounce it correctly.
So first, what is what's his name?
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And then talk to us about flow? That guy? Okay, that
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guy, well, that guy he
was a i'm Urian American psychologist and this
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he cindified the concept of flow twelve
years ago. And his name you'd never
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be able to spell it, and
it's very hard to pronounce. And the
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way this pronounced is Mahayi. Chick
said Mahai. And I'll say that again
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because it sounds like I'm tripping over
my own tongue here, but Mahaii.
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And his last name is accept,
Mahayi accept Mahi. Oh my gosh,
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I'm so from anything that I've been
saying over all these years. I know
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who this man is. Okay,
it doesn't look like that, it's not
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spelled fanatically. Let's put it that. Yeah. So he he discovered that
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there is a state of being or
you feel energized and completely focused. Time
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stands still, nothing seems to matter, and you're in a state of complete
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concentration and absorption. And it has
I'll just pause for a moment here,
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just so we can ask ourselves,
as this ever happened to us? Have
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we ever felt that way while we're
working? This is the important thing for
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people to get, is we're talking
about actually while we're working. While we're
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working, absolutely, and so you
hit upon some of the some of the
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indicators that were in the state of
flow, and uh, you know it's
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time. Uh, time passes quickly. We we see a clarity uh uh
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how our efforts can help us achieve
our goals. Uh. We we get
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some nice neurotransmitters that give us a
sense of ecstasy. Right, and time
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stands still. And and finally,
at least the one that I think we
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all like the best is we look
forward to doing this thing again. And
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those are the indicators that we are
in this state of flow. And uh.
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The and he goes on to speak
about how flow leads to happiness,
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and you know, positive Since he's
written, since he's written his book and
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his text on flow in two thousand
and eight, there's been a lot of
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work done on happiness, you know, and the study of positive psychology they
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call that now, which was you
know, Aristotle's started the ball rolling in
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that direction. But I have found
that, you know, so we've heard
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a lot of the same concepts,
right, the concepts about what our strengths
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and how do we feel when we
use them? And guess what how we
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feel when we use them are the
same way as we feel when we're in
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Chick sent Mahaye's flow, right.
And the question then becomes, how do
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we get into that state of low
and use our strengths? And we have
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the answer right here, competencies.
Competencies can take your strengths toward your goals
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and you will feel in a state
of flow. You've done it intentionally,
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you've done it carefully, and you're
using the things that you have naturally as
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a human being to bring yourself both
productivity and happiness. I like it.
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It works for me. I'm trying
to help more people across the globe achieve
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that as you are. So now
let's talk next about about goals and the
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application of what you come up with
here. So I am one of those
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people, Michael. I am a
very cool oriented people. People say that
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you take on too much, and
I'm like, but I only got this
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one precious life. I want to, I want to, I want to
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make it all happen, and I
do resolutions all the kind of things.
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So I love goals and I appreciate
how you say our goals help give us
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a purpose, of course, So
will you distinguish for us? For you
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talk about organizational and personal goals?
Well, it's a good it's a good
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it's a good question. And you
know, I think that to me,
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the biggest difference at least between organizational
goals and personal goals is that are is
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it? Organizational goals serve two masters, right, They serve the organization and
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and they serve us because they help
us improve ourselves in ways that we can
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do when we're working with others.
And that's the whole purpose of organizations is
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to accomplish something working with others.
And personal goals serve just one master,
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right, they serve just us.
So the driver of personal goals can and
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should always start with a vision.
Right now, we're not so lucky unless
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we are at the very very top
of the food chain pyramid of an organization
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that that are that our personal goal
is the same as our organizational goal,
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because the organizational goal is there to
help the organization. If it's a for
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profit of UH, it's UH to
reward the shareholders and the stakeholders. And
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if it's a nonprofit, it's to
better deliver on the mission. Mm hmmm
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hmm. And I think you said
something in your book which I really was
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gravitating to. I think you also
used push pull language, did you not?
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Would you say that? Yeah?
Did you use push pull language?
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Oh? I might have that,
And that's very very important for me because
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it gets to intrinsic versus extensic motivation. Oh well, share share a bit
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on that. Well, So what
I what I think I got was,
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if I got this right, was
I think the way that situated the organizational
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goals. Yes, they have two
masters, but they're really kind of you
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know, they're pushing us because they're
they're part of what's right and that's part
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of what we are to be impart
of the organization, whereas our personal goals
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pull us towards something pollstered our vision, which is something that is beyond us,
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and if we do our vision well, inspires us and pulls us into
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it. So it's that whole push
pull motivation that I think is really important
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to distinguish for our listeners. Dealers. Thank you for reminding me, as
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I get via little help from my
friends, right, Michael, learn us
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together? Awsome? Okay, Right, so now let's do this because this
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is this is so great because I
think people think about goals and vision in
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a way that's probably gets a little
bit money. And so you actually have
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a fantastic thing that you do in
your book and that you instruct your readers
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to use their vision, values and
strengths to determine their best goals for themselves.
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I doubt heavily that many of the
people are listening and watching the right
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now it really considered that level of
finiteness to a vision or goal. So
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say more about that? Well,
sure you know the they're as human beings,
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are thinking, thinking beings, and
they're acting beings. And a way
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that I like to think about how
we connect the ways we we think and
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the things we desire with our actions
is to encourage ourselves to act with intention.
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So if we go back to the
competencies and just just remembering for a
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moment here that the first competency discussed
was setting a vision, and then I
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encourage with the seven steps to level
up, which I suppose we're going to
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talk about in a moment here,
encourage people to set a vision, and
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actually now it's a good time to
talk about that is, set your own
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personal vision, and then think about
what's the difference. You know what they
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call the gap analysis, which is
the difference on a point in time between
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where you would like to be and
where you are, and over time,
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it's where you will go if you
don't change anything, versus where you can
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go if you do, if you
act with intention and parenthetically use your strengths
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and competencies to achieve your goals.
So I lay out seven very straightforward steps
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that are just based on the ancient
scientific method to encourage people to set a
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vision for themselves, take a look
at where they are if they don't do
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anything, versus where they would like
to see themselves, and then to use
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what they've got to get where they
want to go. Start by setting goals,
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and not more than three goals,
and you just can't work on more
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than three goals, and for each
one of those goals, set three objectives
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you know, three smaller goals and
start by working on the easiest objective of
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the most important goal you know.
In other words, go for a small
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win early, and to do that
with intention. The whole key is is
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purposely and consciously pick a competency strength
combination. And this is really the secret
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sauce of Level up is if you
combine a competency you would like to you
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would like to get better in with
a strength that you have that is a
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competency strength combination that when you put
those two together, will help you not
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only achieve your objective or your goal, but it actually becomes hardwired into you
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as a person. You can draw
upon it. It's a tool, like
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a nice tool in the top level
of your toolbox that you can reach for
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without looking and know how to use
it in the dark. Right and yeah,
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it's at the ready. I love
that and it's so exciting. And
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one of the reasons that I wanted
to have you in the show is because,
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as I say, I am a
very goal oriented person and I really
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believe in we've one precious life.
Let's live it to its fullest. So
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I really think that the frame of
you created really does help literally level people
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up to that and so I terribly
appreciate that. And now I want to
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go back to what you said before
about where we are in this whole,
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this whole pandemic and the change that
it has elicited. So literally, twenty
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twenty has entirely changed the way that
we live, the way that we work,
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and I would I think it's irreversible. I don't think we can really
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go back to the way we were
entirely. So I would be interested,
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Michael, and what insights you have
about what companies and leaders can do to
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meet the needs of a workforce that
creates meaning and connection in a time when
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they can't actually connect. Well,
that's the that's the sixty four dollars question,
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isn't it? Because the poor or
you know, I say poor,
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I mean as the organizational leaders are
going through a very difficult time. You
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know, they need you know,
everybody in an organization is in suspension,
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right they have and by that I
mean in the physical sense, they have
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people above them who they need to
please, they need to please themselves,
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and they have people working for them
and with them. Who they need to
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take care of, and people are
you know, I just sit in admiration
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of how wonderful people are doing the
best they can with such limited abilities to
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communicate. And the thing that organizations
give is instant access to communication. You
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know, it used to be the
office, and then it became automobiles and
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then airplanes and on the internet,
but it was always we always had access
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to four dimensions. And the thing
that's missing now is one of the dimensions,
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depth has been taken has been taken
away. And you know, we
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have the breadth and the width,
and we have time, but people don't
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have a sense of the third dimension
that gives you the three dimensional experience.
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And it's hard on the psyche,
you know, it's uh and it's you
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know, we're already starting to see
some you know, as they say,
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snow melts around the edges right,
not in the middle, you know,
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and we're starting to see that it's
taking some wear and tear on people.
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And oh my goodness, I just
hope that the sooner this thing is over
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for the for the general psychological health
of the population of the world, the
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better, because it's it's very difficult, and people are doing great so to
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your given what they can do to
your question at least, which is a
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great question, I think one thing
that companies and leaders can do is to
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help employees UH and their team members
and the people they collaborate with have a
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better sense of meaning in their lives. Because you know, we're not talking
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about it's not the industrial revolution where
our goal is to commoditize labor, right,
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It's is the more organizations can help
their individuals discover their strengths, and
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the more they can do to help
them encourage them use their strengths, and
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the more they can do to help
people acknowledge and value and treasure working with
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people who have different strengths, The
more meaning and purpose it will give to
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people, the more sense of hope
and encouragement and I think inspiration all the
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way around. Well, I do
agree with that. In fact, what
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I have found, Michael, is
that a couple of my clients that I've
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done leadership development work for or team
building work for, Callbeebacks and Hales.
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We're dying at the buying what can
you do for us? And so I've
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done I've done some well being and
meaning kind of connective work with them,
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just along the lines that you're talking
about, because I really appreciated how you
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distinguish that. It's depth that we're
missing. And so listeners and viewers,
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right if you can construct rings,
oh my gosh, that's why it feels
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hollow to me. That's why I
don't feel fulfilled, because you're missing the
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depth. So I really appreciate how
you distinguish that for us, Michael,
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beautiful. I want to also give
a call out to your book and the
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way that you helped us. Because
it is a long book. There's if
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there's a lot of information that you
put in that book, Michael, kudos
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for that. But one of the
things that you do that really helps is
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you do that you know, here's
the big idea, Like I want you
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to really pay attention to this,
So listeners and viewers when you go to
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look for his book, that helps
you really navigate the final points, and
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that brings it all home. All
right, Michael, here it is.
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We've finally gotten close to the end
of the show already, even though we
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had technical difficulties, and I've been
holding you in my hand this whole time.
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You're right right right, all cuddled
up in my hand. Here.
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This program is listening to and watched
by people from all over the world.
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And it's really designed to help people
more meaningfully experience their work and contribute more
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deeply with and through it. With
that, what would you like to leave
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our listeners and viewers with today,
Well, thanks thanks to the opportunity to
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to think about that allowed at least. And I love the work. I
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love the work you're doing. And
I will kind of uh tag tag along
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with the theme of intention and meaningfulness
and and purpose uh and to try to
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give us some comments about how level
up might fit into that given the times,
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the times that we're in. And
I think my first my first bit
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of encouragement would be to do what
you can, uh with what you have.
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You know there there are there are
just fewer resources available. And uh
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this the sense of time has gotten
all out of whack. But our sense
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of accomplishing things one thing at a
time, remember like like baby steps is
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still the best way forward. You
know, the journey of a thousand miles
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begins with the first step. And
you know in that vein, I would
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just encourage us to use what we
have, our strengths. There are natural
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abilities, our competencies to accomplish accomplished
the things we want to and number two
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is is celebrate those small wins.
Yes, kis with that. Michael,
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I've got to let you. I
got to stop you so I can send
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them to your website. Sorry that, I'll celebrate all day with you.
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Thank you for making this work being
in the palm of my hand, sharing
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your passion with us. Listeners.
If you want to learn more about Michael
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Auster, his book Level Up,
or the work they do at Level of
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Advisors, go to Level up Advisors
dot Solutions. Last week, you you
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missed the live show you know I
was kid to be a recorded podcast.
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We were on James Sinclair of Alumni
Network talking about the power of activating alumni
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for bench strength, boomerang hires,
marketing, and community concerns. Next week
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we'll be on the air with Jeff
Lovejoy talking about his leaderships new Thought Leadership
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launche to you there. Remember that
work is at least a better life,
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So let's work on purpose. We
hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be
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sure to tune in to Working on
Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,
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each week on the Voice America Empowerment
Channel. Together We'll create a world
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where business operates conscientiously, leadership inspires
impassioned performance, and employees are fulfilled in
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work that provides the meaning and purpose
they crave. See you there. Let's
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work on purpose.





















































