Lead Brighter by Navigating Through the Unfolding Path

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential business can be such

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a force for good in the world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want Working

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on purpose. Now. Here is
your host, Doctor Elise Cortez. Welcome

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back to the Working on Purpose program. Packs for tuning in again this week.

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I'm your host, doctor Elis Cortez
jo Any live from Dallas, which

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is home based for me. If
you don't know me yet, I'm a

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management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose, organizational local therapist, inspirational speaker,

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social scientist, and author by team
that I help companies discover and articulate their

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purpose to throw it through their culture
and operations. We work with forward thinking

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or forward reaching organizations to develop inspirational
leaders who create cultures where people actually want

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to come to work and do their
best, and we provide programs like they

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grab your guster that enable the individual
team members to discover and at least their

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passion and purpose at work to catalyze
fulfillment, engagement, and productivity. You

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can learn more about us and how
we can work together at a last Cortez

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dot Com with us today's doctor Alicia
Hair. She's the founder and CEO of

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turnosaul, a leadership consulting firm that
partners with CEOs their teams and organizations in

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times of significant change. She's the
author of The Unfolding Path, A Way

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to Live and Lead in Our Times, which inspires and guys leaders to do

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the deep inner work required to step
up and lead others to a brighter future.

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We were talking about the tenets of
her gorgeous book, The Unfolding Path

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and how she outlines it in her
book as well as from the work she

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does at turn us All. She
judge today from San Francisco, California,

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Doctor Alicia, Welcome to Working on
Purpose. Thank you so much for having

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me, Elise, I'm thrilled to
be here. I am too, as

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we were saying before we got on
air, you are my literally my exact

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seven year show guests. Seven years
ago in twenty fifteen. I came on

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air and I was just shaking,
and what do I do? How do

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I do this? And you are
seven years? So I should you to

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say, let's seven years and what
if you lend and you know, sins

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and all those things, we would
be on four days whatever. Let me

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do that another time. At least. Yeah, you know what. I

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have had guests say that to me, doctor Danny Gutneck or actually Danny Gutneck

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I did that. He said,
at least I'm going to interview you on

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your show. So he's done that, so this could happen. Okay,

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yeah, I'll do it. I'll
do definitely reverse interview. It has like

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so much to share, it'd be
so fine. I think it would be

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great. Well, you know what
you may not know, doctor Alicia,

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but listeners and viewers you may know, is that this is really curated content.

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So seven years. What I try
to do is when I prepare for

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the conversation and I read your gorgeous
book. It was gorgeous in written words

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as well as its images. I'm
really what I'm doing is now I'm curating

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and adding ideas and we haven't yet
covered on the show, so there's so

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much we could talk about. But
before we get into that, I think

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you've got to start, Alicia,
with your beautiful journey story that you share

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in the beginning of your book,
which I could so relate to, by

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the way, or you realize that
you can move from fear and reliance on

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achievement to self love. So let's
start with that. Well, even before

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I start there, I'm going to
tell you you're my first conversation about this

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book. I really to hear that. And here's the reason why. Is

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because the book is actually not a
book that people can buy. It's not

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on Amazon or Burns and Noble.
I didn't write it for mass distribution.

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I wrote it for myself initially,
to be honest, because I had the

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bug of writing. I've never been
to write, or never wanted to write.

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Thought I was just going to write
a quick article. Turned out to

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be what we're about to talk about. And you know, I ultimately shared

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it with my daughter because that was
my next purpose. And then the people

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who had been helping me with it
said we'll share it with some people and

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see what they think. And then
I ended up only sharing it with some

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people who had really made a different
in my life and now my clients.

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So I've never talked about this before, so I'm very excited to have the

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opportunity. So thank you. This
is just perfect, right, it's a

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seven year timing, I'm talking about
it perfect. Yeah, I want to

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see all of it. Yeah.
So to your question, yeah, no,

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what are crazy? We all have
our stories, right, so mine.

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I think it really anchors in this
idea to leverage the word that is

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in the show right purpose that since
I was really, really little, I

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had this sense that the reason I
was here was to shine and that word

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has always been in me for some
reason, which I don't know why,

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to be honest, but it's always
been a word and it's evolved over time,

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you know. I think this is
the sort of the story you were

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referring to that when I was really
little, I grew up in the South

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here in the United States, was
in a Catholic home. My living situation

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was somewhat unpredictable, and kind of
my answer to that initially was how could

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I be a good girl? That
was you know, shining to me had

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to do with being a good girl, which I know a lot of women

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can appreciate, you know, how
do I show up as you know,

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the best, you know, polite
and obedient and taking responsibility and caring for

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others. And uh. And it
was really that for for quite a while

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until I hit sort of middle school
and high school. When I hit in

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middle school in high school, uh, you know, like so many teenagers,

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I began to suffer the things that
we all suffer as teenagers, things

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about my identity and you know what
was happening with my family and all these

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expectations I was feeling, and limitations
that I was feeling about what I could

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become. And yet I knew that
I had a lot of gifts and talents

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that I had been given. And
I decided that that if I could achieve,

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if I could really leverage those things, that that would be my ticket

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out of all the struggle that i've
if I could just achieve, if I

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could, if I could really you
know, and everything I did, whether

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it was at the time academics or
sports or what have you, that that

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that would be my way out.
And And to be frank, it was,

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you know, because that it really
powered you know, college degree,

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two Masters of PhD, living in
ten cities, tons of really great jobs

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and promotions and making a lot of
money early on in my career. But

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but what ended up happening was,
you know, as I talked about in

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the book, there was a night
shortly after my daughter was born where I

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was sitting in the dark and it
was still, and I had this epiphany

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which occurs, you know, only
a few times in your life. Really

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in the way I'm just certainly happened
to me in that moment where I kind

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of, for whatever reason that night, reflected on where I was and realized

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I had everything I'd ever imagined.
But yet in the dark, I felt

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dark, I felt empty. I
felt like there was just something fundamentally missing

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for me as a human. And
and in that moment, I realized shining

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wasn't responsibility, it wasn't achievement.
It actually was about becoming the fullness of

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myself. And the ways I had
been living life, We're not allowing going

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to allow me to become that,
and I had to go off and find

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a new way. And that's really
what this book is about. Can really

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appreciate that that emptiness at hollowness you're
talking about, And of course, as

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a logo therapist, we call that
the existential vacuum. Of course, right,

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Really, I was like, I
know that story. I know that

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story. So it makes me feel
better because you know, any when you're

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in it, you feel alone,
yeah, the person that's ever happened to

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you, and you're just totally terrified. But then you get into it and

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you're like, oh wait, hold
on, this is a human thing and

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in some ways it's extremely predictable.
So what's also really great though about your

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work? I just I think that
you're writing is really compelling, really beauty.

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You're beautiful writer, Alicia, and
just really convey concepts really, you

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know, in a beautiful, very
excessible way. And right out of the

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gate, one of the things that
you talk about is, you know,

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you say, we resist this journey
of unfolding and specifically living our purpose,

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and you talk about a few reasons
why that's so, which I think will

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be useful for our listeners and viewers
are going, yeah, because you know

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a lot of people are like,
I do want to find my purpose.

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But right, so could you talk
to a few of these things why do

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we resist? Yeah? Well,
I do talk to a few, but

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I think before I get there,
I would say that under I mean,

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because the few maybe I'll start there, you know, the fewer things like

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it's there, but we don't want
to hear it. It's there, but

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we don't want to act on it. It's there, but it feels hard

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to do. You know. There's
just different reasons. But I think the

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root cause of all of that really
is we live, all of us live

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in a world where people have expectations
on us. Whether it's the family we

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were raised in, whether it's the
culture that we were part of, whether

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it's the business. You know,
there's there's a story that we grow up

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believing how you live life, how
you're successful in life, how you live

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a good life. And I think
it's powerful, and it's powerful because as

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humans, we want to belong and
we want to be part of a tribe,

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and it's scary to go outside of
that. And the deal with purpose

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and the deal with this idea of
wanting to fully shine, to use the

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language my language, and wanting to
really be the fullness of who you are

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is you have to let that go. You have to say, you know

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what, that may be the story, but that's not right for me.

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My life and my journey and my
path requires me to bushwhack. It requires

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me to leave all of that and
to really have the faith and confidence in

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myself that I can navigate to become
the fullness of who I am. And

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I think that's really the underlying root
cause of all of it. I think

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that's it. I completely align with
that, and and that was beautifully rendered.

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I mean, I know for me, when I really really really understood

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what was I literally I left a
perfectly good job. I jumped off the

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cliff. I didn't have a single
client who was kind of looking pay for

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my services and said, okay,
I'll go. I'll start my own you

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know, leadership program, create my
own books, run a non profit.

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I did all that with nothing.
I didn't There was nothing underneath there from

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me except you had the fire exactly. I had the fire end of conviction

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that this is the right path for
me. And yes it was. So

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I talked about being obedient to it, you know, and then it wasn't

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necessarily convenient, but I couldn't resist
it. So I think what you just

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said is gorgeous. And then if
we also take it another step further,

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Alicia, what's really fascinating that I
also terribly align with what you said,

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As you say, at its core, struggle is simply a personalized invitation to

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wake up, grow and expand.
Yes, well, it's funny because in

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preparing for this, I had to
reread all the books and I'm sorry,

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no, I was actually a gift
because there were so many places because I

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wrote it for me, there are
so many places of it that I was

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like, oh man, I need
to hear that right now. And this

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was one of them that I read
it and I was like, oh,

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yeah, I wrote that. Dang
it, you know, because it's so

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true. And here's here's why I
think it's so true. I think that

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struggle is actually the thing that allows
us to become who we really are.

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My daughter and I for a while
loved a rock tumbler. We used to

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have a rock tumbler, and you
know, you put the unpolished rock in

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the tumbler, you put the grit
in, like all the stuff and nasty

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stuff, and you let it tumble
around for a while and then it comes

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out shiny. That struggle struggles the
grit and when you kind of say to

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yourself, I'm going to turn towards
it, I'm gonna lean into it,

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I'm gonna face it, confront it, versus being afraid of it and ignoring

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it, denying it, numbing from
it, medicating, whatever the other choices

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that we can make. When you
really lean into it, I think what

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you find is that is the thing
that helps you, you know, develop

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confidence to know you can do it. I think about my divorced you know,

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as an example in my own personal
life. You know, my parents

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were married for sixty years. You
know, my grandparents before them. My

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brothers are all married. The idea
that I was going to divorce was just

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like out of the ordinary, but
it was real. I had to do

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it for me, and you know, it was an inferno. Everything I

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knew burned down. But I look
back at that experience and I say,

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holy cow, I am. I
am more me because I went through it.

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I went through all the steps.
I had to learn how to do

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it. I had to do it
differently, I had to have faith in

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myself. I'm more me than I
ever would have been without that. And

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I think that's the power of struggle. We are given the personalized opportunities that

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are unique to us for us to
be all of us completely agree with that.

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In fact, for the longest time, Alicia, I used to say

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you know, I'm probably not going
to amount to too terribly much in life

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because I haven't had to struggle.
And it's true, I really haven't,

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you know. And but like you, I did get this nice little thing

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on a silver platter called a divorce
that helped me as well. But right,

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thank you, And I wouldn't be
living my purpose today if I probably

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if I were still married. And
that's just part of it, right,

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It's just and so I completely believe. So the opportunity of listeners and viewers

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is to embrace the struggle right and
recognize it for the gift that it really

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is, and not run from it
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saying, it's so so powerful.
It is the fuel. It is that,

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it is the energy, It is
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to help us become all of us. It is so is And I really

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appreciate how you have created these separate
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that you say create the unfolding path, which we're going to talk about.

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We're going to sample from each one
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So let's talk about the first one
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And so what it's great about the
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up for us as you say that
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navigational system for how we could live
and lead, which is gorgeous. Right,

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So the way you serve this up, So let's do this. Let's

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treat the first one fear before we
grab our first pike. So let me

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read a couple things and let you
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able to render some of your writing. It's so beautiful. So I've never

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heard anybody say this the way that
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you say, humans are hardwired to
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considered to be a higher arousal emotion, is the most contagious of all.

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and survival. If we aren't aware, we can catch fear and equally give

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our fear to others. That is
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and kids have just gone back to
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know, expressing to me her anxiety
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with her child at a school,
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happen. And I had gone into
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into my car and I was completely
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neurons are we're hardwired is part of
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on other people's emotions and fear because
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which is about keeping us safe and
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brain, which is obviously in the
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it, fight and flight. You
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our brain. That particular emotion has
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mirror mirror neurons, and so what
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catch fear, and then if I'm
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I pass it on to someone else. I could have then had another I

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could have had a conversation right after
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COVID schools, Holy cow, can
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feeling it and then you, if
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probably one of my personally my biggest
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three different industries that all got disrupted
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leaders of that company were afraid for
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about their own failure, not not
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do? And I don't want to
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I'm your host, Doctor Leaves Cortez.

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We've been on the air with doctor
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of Turnisol and the author of The
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Lead in Our Times. We've been
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Now back to Working on Purpose.
Thankteresting with us, and welcome back to

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working on Purpose if you're just during
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Alicia Hair. She's the founder and
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firm that partners with CEOs their teams
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And she's the author of the Unfolding
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Times. I'm your host, doctor
LEAs Cortez. So we were talking about

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this one of the tenants that you
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and that being fear. I just
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that which I think is just so
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notion of fear is so palpable insight
organizations, people are afraid to talk,

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and it spreads like wildfire. And
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which I think is really interesting,
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and engage more productively with our changing
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a greater stability inside ourselves. To
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our fear from something that we deny
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master and use to facilitate our learning
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with a very important first step.
We must wake up a true it's the

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birthplace of us taking our power back. That is the birthplace, you know.

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And I think what the book fear
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together, I think that was for
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we live in this uncertain world.
It's so easy to be knocked out,

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the world we live in. And
for me, the first step is,

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you know, how do you master
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started you actually have to be aware
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aware that you're afraid, then you
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yourself right there. And that speaks
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And that's just the problem that we
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divorced from our feelings, the whole
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but everything out with the bathwater.
So so so let's move into choice next.

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There's a couple pieces to this that
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talk about as well. And so
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You say, each and every choice
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A stimulus, a space in which
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When fully access the space between stimulus
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alternatives, possibilities, and opportunities aim
in it provides us the chance to slow

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down and ask ourselves important questions.
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learn, grow and change. I
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not think about choice as powerfully as
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I think I think for me,
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in? In the times that we
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we have to take a power back, you know, And this for me

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was a bridge with fear because what
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that's the stimulus, and it could
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we're going to respond. And I
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I'm still working on every day,
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know that we have that choice to
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being somebody who has lived a life
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is so uncertain, the most helpful
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to give myself that space and to
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I don't actually have to act out
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choices that I can make right now. So let's slow down and think about

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what I actually want to do.
What is my intention here? What do

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I want to have happened as a
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the practice of allowing yourself to be
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space to choose and then have a
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essential things to take your power back
in my experience, Beautifully, render beautiful,

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you said, And then related to
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that we have to talk about that
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personal responsibility. That is at the
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and I do agree with that.
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empowerment as well? You say,
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of believing the world is all about
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completely against us, so we shouldn't
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too much of the time wait for
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us, solve our problems, and
give our lives meaning. We abandon accountability

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for what is actually ours to do, relying on a false hope that someone

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else will do it for us.
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there's no choice if you don't take
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you believe that your choices are not
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someone else, and you allow other
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headed. And so again it given
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journey, it was I got to
take my power back. I'm letting other

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people dictate my life. I'm letting
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letting other people dictate what I should
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shine, How am I going to
take? How am I going to become

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the fullness of me? If that's
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responsible for my choices, which which
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else make them for me. Whatever
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result of that is my accountability.
That's what creates power, your responsibility.

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a choice you can make. That's
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when you feel powerful, not power
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what you want to do in the
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to talk about purpose and where you
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want to have is when you know
that you've got power. Because you have

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you, you can make choices and
you're responsible for that. I can't resist

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putting this together for Selicia. So
in locotherapy, doctor Victor Frankel talks a

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lot about how you know on the
east right right, we have to because

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your your location and everything right.
So he talks about how the stature liberty

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courses in New York and it's all
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key side to that, and that
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used to always say that we need
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responsibility, and let's put it in
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you're in San Francisco. This is
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he's he's for sure. He's been
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things. I had a suspicion there's
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between how you talk and write and
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the more reason why you know,
I was thrilled when I was like,

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let's get her on here. Okay, well, let's move on to purpose.

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There were so many things in your
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just jamming on and we got to
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Alicia, there were so many things
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have a your own, beautiful,
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I want to open it with the
way that you open the foreword in that

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particular book of Purpose. This is
a clip from Rabbi Harold Kushner in the

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Baby in the Book, and we
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this, so you say, this
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the course of my thirty years as
a congressional rabbi, I have seen many

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people come to the end of their
lives. I've held their hands and prayed

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with them on the eve of a
desperate chance operation. I have seen them

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deteriorate from week to week of abilitating
illness. I have seen courage, love,

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and humor in the face of death. The dying have taught me one

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great lesson that I would never have
learned without their help. Most people are

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not afraid of dying. They are
afraid of not having lived. It is

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not the prospect of death that frightens
most people. People can accept the inscapable

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fact of mortality. What frightens them
more is the dread of insignificance, the

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notion that we will be born and
live and one day die and none of

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it will matter. That is so
profound and perfect way to open on purpose.

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You know it was again. I
wrote it for me, and I

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found myself in every book saying I
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I can't believe I'm about to talk
about this, and this whole example of

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that that The quote for me was, as I mentioned in the book,

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also very profound for me. And
it was because at the time I was

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an executive. I was working at
a huge job, and I was doing

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what executive do. I was actually
living in Australia at the time, and

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my grandfather, who had been incredibly
influential to me, was living on the

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complete other side of the world in
the south in Georgia, and he was

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dying of cancer. And I was
kind of seeing myself at the time,

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you know, very important with you
know, PowerPoint acts and lots of meetings,

410
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and he and his also about fifteen
thousand miles away, was dying and

411
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I would go visit him. And
one of the things that really struck me

412
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about him was he was at peace
with dying, and uh. And I

413
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you know, he was a he
was a man of faith, and so

414
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I knew that that was part of
it. But when I read the quote,

415
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what I really came to understand is
that he also was at peace because

416
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he knew his life mattered. So
what it did for me was it made

417
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me ask the question of myself,
how will I know that my life mattered?

418
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And I now come to at least
for me, sort of see it

419
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:57.799
all on two dimensions. It's there's
a dimension about what I contribute, you

420
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.079
know, and that's different than six
contributions about impact and the impact I had.

421
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And the other dimension is have I
loved and have I been loved?

422
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And for me at least those two
axes, if you will kind of frame

423
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what it means to live a life
that truly matters. I think that's stellar.

424
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:21.200
And I thought that was so powerful. And you do a beautiful job

425
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:22.759
talking about your grandfather in the book
too, and his piece that comes from

426
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.559
knowing that he actually mattered. So
I want to make sure in situation for

427
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our listeners and viewers, because it's
beautiful. Your two axes are contribution and

428
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then the other one is loved and
being loved. And I think that's really

429
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profound. And I will tell you
this, Alicia, that when I'm out

430
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speaking to audiences and I talk about
the importance of awakening to passionate purpose,

431
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:44.400
first, people don't know what they're
passionate about. And then when we get

432
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.400
to the purpose part there, they
say things like, well, you know,

433
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my life is okay the way it
is, It's okay, it's okay.

434
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.240
And so I see what that's you
know, it's it's resignation, right.

435
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:56.440
See, I know what that is, right, because they were afraid

436
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.960
of it, afraid of afraid of
how shine, how big their shine might

437
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.599
be. Right, And it's so
interesting, Alisha's such important work to be

438
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.759
doing in the world and precious work
to be doing in the world. Yeah,

439
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.039
well, and it's I think for
a lot of people, it's what

440
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.960
you're doing. And what I think
I'm trying to do is to help people

441
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.559
make it more accessible for people,
you know, And I think that's particular.

442
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.079
The word purpose, I think now
can scare people, but but it's

443
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:30.839
actually it's actually something that exists in
all of us. And the question is

444
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.680
not it doesn't have to be a
big p purpose. It can be a

445
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.480
little P purpose that's a theme of
your life. Like for me, shining

446
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.039
is a purpose, but it's changed
over my life and it applies differently,

447
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.400
but it's a theme. How do
you help people make that accessible for people

448
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.000
and then give them kind of the
tools and the kind of the steps,

449
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.799
the small steps that they can take
that that allow them to actually do it,

450
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.920
and which I'll say something too a
little bit later. One of the

451
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.480
other things that you say that I've
never done anybody else say before, which

452
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.920
is brilliant. You say such compliments, thank you. Oh it's well,

453
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.400
it's great work, Alish, It's
just a great work. You're so welcome,

454
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.400
So we'll deserved. And I love
to celebrate, you know, when

455
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.160
I see a beautiful mind and heart
come on air and we're celebrating and the

456
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.559
seven years in my dear, let's
do it. So one of the things

457
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.319
that you say is so great is
you say living your purpose is the ultimate

458
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.160
act of showing up. Oh.
Amen, sister, that's exactly right.

459
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.039
I'm nobody else that I've heard ever
say that. Oh but what if you've

460
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.079
tried it. It's like, gosh, I don't know how else to describe

461
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:34.160
the experience. Now, to live
your purpose means you are willing to go

462
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:40.440
against what everyone else is saying is
the right thing to do. So true,

463
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.799
you have bought into the story of
society, like we were saying a

464
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.799
minute ago. You know society and
your family and culture, and you are

465
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:52.279
willing to love yourself more than all
of that, and you're willing to say,

466
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.119
I will live the life that is
mine to live, and I will

467
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:03.200
not die without doing what is my
unique, you know, fulfilling my unique

468
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.680
potential like and to do that means
you have to be yourself. Like I

469
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.279
have a sticky note literally in front
of me right now that says, this

470
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.599
is me. You have to be
yourself. You have to be yourself.

471
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:15.599
You have to be brave enough to
be yourself. You have to be brave

472
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:21.400
enough to do things that are unconventional, unconventional and be okay with that.

473
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.599
It's definitely not for the fan of
heart, but yet it is the most

474
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.720
rewarding you know, path I've certainly
ever tried to take me too. In

475
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.119
fact, that's one of the things
that you talk about that in the importance

476
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.799
of self love as a very as
a distinguishing access point to purpose. I

477
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.599
think that's also really brilliant and unusual, Alicia, in terms of you know

478
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.640
what I want to say, showcasing
the importance of self love in order to

479
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.480
be able to access your purpose.
But that's the only reason that you actually

480
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.960
do it is because you love yourself
enough to say, you know what,

481
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.880
what I have to offer matters,
and I need to do it for me.

482
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:01.759
Agreed, That's what happened to me
too. So let's grab our last

483
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.720
break already. This goes by so
fast. I'm your host, doctor Elise

484
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:07.960
Cortez. We're going near with doctor
Alicia Hair. She's the founder and CEO

485
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.799
of Turnisall and the author of The
Unfolding Path, and we live and lead

486
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.839
in our times. We've been talking
about some of the tenants from her collection

487
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.440
of books. We've been just talking
about purpose and also choice. After the

488
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.519
Breaker, I get into brighter futures
and the Path. Stay with us.

489
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.880
We'll be right back. Doctor Release
Cortez is a management consultant specializing in meaning

490
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:32.680
and purpose and inspirational speaker and author. She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose

491
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:39.759
among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership
and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment,

492
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.079
performance, and commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite a

493
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.279
lease to speak to your organization,
please visit her at a Lease Cortez dot

494
00:32:50.319 --> 00:33:00.599
com. Let's talk about how to
get your employees working on purpose. This

495
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.240
is working on purpose with doctor Release
Cortez. To reach our program today or

496
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:12.440
open a conversation with Elise, send
an email to Alise ali Se at Elise

497
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:19.680
Cortez dot com. Now back to
working on Purpose. Thank forestinging with us,

498
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.640
and welcome back to working on Purpose, Alicia. Since you mentioned the

499
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.720
idea of access, I do want
to share with you and all the listeners

500
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.240
and viewers a little bit of news, and that is that August of twenty

501
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.359
twenty one, I released an anthology
of twenty five stories from women that I

502
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:36.920
found around the world, from all
over the place, from Australia to Zambia.

503
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.240
And they share their really intimate stories
of how they discover their purpose and

504
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:43.079
how they're serving from it. And
the reason I arranged them the way that

505
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.640
they did by Path was to do
just what you said, to give people

506
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.319
some access to being able to discover
their own purpose. If we look at

507
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.960
path, that's a way to see
it. So I want to share that

508
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:54.400
with you. It's out on Amazon
now. It's called Passionate. Look into

509
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:58.079
it for sure. Yeah, I'm
so proud of it. I could bus

510
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.599
it must have been so fun to
do. It was amazing. So it's

511
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.039
called Passionately Striving and Why, and
that's out now. I'm on the hunt

512
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.880
across the globe to find men to
be able to share their stories. So

513
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.239
upstair's a viewer. If you know
any men who want to be able to

514
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.039
share their story of purpose, please
send them my way. I'm gonna think

515
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.119
about someone and see if I can
send me your acts. Please do.

516
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.800
I've been having some of the most
amazing conversations, so if you're just joining

517
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:23.159
me guest and who guests and viewers. My guest today is doctor Alicia Hair.

518
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.800
She's the founder and CEO of turn
Assaul, a leadership consultancy firm that

519
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:31.159
partners with CEOs their teams and organizations
and time significant change. We've been talking

520
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.360
about her beautiful book, So the
next piece that we want to cover.

521
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.440
The next book we want to cover
is called Brighter Futures. And what's interesting

522
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:43.719
again for me and our parallel work, Alicia, is some of the things

523
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.639
that you write about for Brighter Futures
I kind of talk about from an inspirational

524
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:51.440
lens. It's very similar. It's
just so beautiful and so here again,

525
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.719
let's quote what you say. You
say over time, I discovered that the

526
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:59.360
leaders I admired reached both the head
and the heart. They made people bold

527
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.800
and hopeful, connected to something greater
than themselves, confident and empowered to make

528
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.039
an impact. They brought out the
best and others by helping them believe they

529
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.760
could do more, be more,
and make more good things happen. Completely

530
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.960
aligned with that, and that so
is such a beautiful way to speak to

531
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:20.000
brighter futures. Yeah, and I
think I think this book was a sort

532
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.840
of a pivotal point for me writing
it because it really made me have to

533
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:29.960
think about what makes those people able
to do it. You know, if

534
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.440
I think about the people that I
was kind of inspired by when I wrote

535
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:36.639
that they'd done the work that we
just talked about, you know, they

536
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.159
were people who were you know,
were awake to their fear. They were

537
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:44.079
courageous, they took responsibility for their
choices. They knew what they were doing

538
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.119
and why they were doing it with
their purpose, and they knew that they

539
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:51.079
could use those things in a way
to make people's lives better, and they

540
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.400
were inspired to do so. And
I think what was powerful about thinking about

541
00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.320
that was then contrasting it to a
different kind of leadership that you out in

542
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:05.719
the world, which I would argue
sort of toy the dominant paradigm about be

543
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.360
the biggest, to be the best, take the share. When the war

544
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.760
and I was trying to figure out
how more leaders could actually lead in that

545
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.719
way, and this was a little
bit of my exploration of that. It's

546
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.599
gorgeous and I think it's such a
great way to showcase, you know,

547
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.679
the possibility of a whole new frontier
that you that you put forward for us

548
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:29.760
and to then and you'd take it
another step further with this next passage.

549
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:34.280
You say, the ultimate job of
leader is to bring brighter futures, futures

550
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.760
that bring out the best of humanity, create greater human value, not just

551
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.199
economic, political, or personal value. Bring about new possibilities, opportunities,

552
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.159
equality and freedom for more people,
burst with hope and feel better than we

553
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:50.440
ever imagine possible. That's your definition
of leading brighter, which I think is

554
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.800
a beautiful invitation and a great summons. How could you say no to that?

555
00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:01.159
Well, I just I think it's
time to have a conversation about what

556
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.239
is the job of a leader.
I mean, you look at a lot

557
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:08.239
of the leadership literature and it's about
competencies, and it's about attributes, and

558
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:14.119
it's about you know, tactics and
disciplines. But what you don't see is

559
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.760
actually what's the job of a leader? You know, you don't see anybody

560
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.639
define that and I feel like,
you know, we could create a whole

561
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.159
new paradigm of leadership, a whole
new generation of leaders, just based on

562
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:29.000
the fundamental premise the job, the
job you're signing up for is to create

563
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.960
a brighter future that makes people's lives
better, that creates more joy and connection

564
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.400
and discovery and equality and shared prosperity. Like we as leaders should do that,

565
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:43.320
and in doing that, we can
actually elevate people's performance as well.

566
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.079
Yeah, and on that note,
I have to insure something really quick here,

567
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.159
so listeners and viewers, those of
you who are leaders are going and

568
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.360
heck, this is a really hard
job. Yes, it really is a

569
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.960
hard job, and you probably can't
do it as well by yourself. You

570
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.719
probably need some help. And that's
the work that both Alicia and are doing.

571
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.079
I know today, Alicia, I'm
working with leaders who are terrified.

572
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.280
I mean, this is a huge
job. You know. The Great Resonation

573
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.280
is a real deal, and it's
creating all kinds of havoc for organizations and

574
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.360
the leaders who run them. And
you know, now is a really good

575
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.920
time to be able to get a
little help with the with the with the

576
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.440
with the unfolding path. If you
will, and I really want to make

577
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.320
sure that listeners and views you hear
us. You know, say to you,

578
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.119
we hear you. This is hard
work, and you know there's beauty

579
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.079
in the journey, and you know
love to help you along that journey.

580
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.039
It's so beautiful, it's so intimate, and when filled with possibility, you

581
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.880
it starts with you. I think
that's the part about it, you know,

582
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.480
to your point, Alicia, that
I've certainly been experiencing is helping individual

583
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:47.239
leaders reconnect to what drives them kind
of take their own power back. They've

584
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:52.039
been dealing with so many things happening
at them and crises and responses, and

585
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.800
and you know, the application of
what we've been talking about out too now

586
00:38:54.920 --> 00:39:00.440
is helping leaders as humans reconnect to
what matters to them, their own sense

587
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.480
of personal power, their own purpose, the contribution they uniquely can make,

588
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.480
and then helping them make that contribution
in the face of all of this because

589
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:15.000
it's possible. Agreed, completely agreed. And so then the last tenant or

590
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.559
the last book that I want to
talk about touch upon here is the Path

591
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.280
and this is again gorgeous. I
want to read just a little bit and

592
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.480
then have you serve back up from
it. So you say, the dangerous

593
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:29.480
we stumble to find what we know
used to be true and being lost is

594
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:34.320
that ultimately we can lose heart and
divorce ourselves from our feelings. I've experienced

595
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.679
this in my own life, which
is a big reason way today I'm out

596
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.840
to awaken passion and purpose and those
I serve. So I really understood when

597
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.760
you said divorce from feelings. I
really understand that I have been lost.

598
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.000
I know what that feels like.
So would you generate for us more what

599
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:50.559
this path looks like. You do
it beautifully in your book. Yeah.

600
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.719
And what I would say is that
to build on what you said just a

601
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:58.119
second ago, I mean, I
think when all of us have been in

602
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.599
this time of struggle for while now, you know, in dealing with the

603
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.719
crisis and the responses, it is
so easy to lose heart. It is

604
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.559
so easy to give in and give
up, and it's human and there's no

605
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:13.079
judgment there. It's just easy to
do it. I think, I think

606
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:19.719
what this is what I'm sort of
my offering through this book is. But

607
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.840
there's a different way, And I
think you know, again, if you

608
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.159
are able to look at your fear
and realize you have choice and you can

609
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.199
connect to your purpose and you can
imagine a brighter future that you can create.

610
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.000
The path is all about the future
doesn't exist yet, nobody has ever

611
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:40.320
actually walked the path that's uniquely yours, and so how do you set off

612
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:45.800
on the journey to do that?
And it's it's very much about learning that,

613
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reminding ourselves that we actually as humans
are explorers. We're navigators. You

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know, we live in this world
I think where somehow again through society we've

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we we value the known and the
certain. You know, we love our

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phones. We love you know,
being able to find the weather out in

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ten seconds. We love you know, knowing the journey of becoming the fullness

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of yourself, the journey of creating
a writer future. You know, it's

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a path of unknowing. And so
the path is all about, you know,

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kind of reconnecting with this idea that
we're all navigators. We can all

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find our way if we start to
listen to our internal voices, if we

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start to sort of kind of take
the next right step, if we if

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we you know, really allow ourselves
the trust to be able to do it.

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I think you probably had just probably
terrified a few people that were listening

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with that, which is great because
some people, right, it's that piece

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of the certainty piece, right,
what do you mean this is uncertain where

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where I'm going to place my next
foot to step? It is right here.

628
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I love how you talked about that
being explorers that were navigators and that

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you know, there's this whole beautiful
space of possibility. And it's even more

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so my show a few weeks ago. Who I just love he's got the

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book, the Beautiful Business Book out
and I just really believe love that he's

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out to be able to evangelize the
idea that all of us can elevate our

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businesses to a higher serving level.
Right with more consciousness and intentionality, we

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really can lift more boats with that. And yes, you know, it's

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just it's so there's that possibility space
that you talk about. I think is

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just so important for us never to
lose sight of well. And I also

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think we underestimate ourselves. You know, I think the only reason that we

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fear uncertainty is because we're out of
practice. You know, we've we've lived

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in a world of certainty or wanted
to create certainty for ourselves. But but

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We're hardwired for exploration. We're hardwired
to be navigators. And and it's like

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anything you go to learn Spanish or
I'm learning Spanish right now, or you

642
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:51.079
know a new sport, it's like, hey, that you learn, you

643
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.039
just have to practice, You have
to try it. You have to allow

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yourself to be uncomfortable with it,
but to trust that you can do it,

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you know, and to take steps
that Okay, I did that one,

646
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I can do another one. That
one I can do another one.

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I think that's a lot of the
work of kind of again becoming the fullness

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of who you are. Yeah,
just taking it just there's there's magic and

649
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taking the action right. We both
know that. So a couple more things

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I want to talk about with regard
to what you've done with your company.

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So, so I love that you've
named your company Tornosaw, which is French

652
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for sunflower. I did know that, And I love that you use the

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flower image imagery on your website and
it's also throughout your book and places.

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So tell us the story because I
know a little something about where it's came

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from, but our listeners and viewers
don't tell us the story of how the

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name was inspired. Why torn us
all. Well, again, the books

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are all about sort of by personal
journey and from my purpose and thinking about

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what I can do. The image
of a field of sunflowers is sort of

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my own brighter future. The brighter
future I want to create is a field

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of sunflower. Each flower represents a
leader, like seeds that I've been able

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to plant, where people are feel
more inspired and equipped to lead and live

662
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and lead in the ways we've been
talking about. And so for me,

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the reason the company exists, the
reason I exist, is to try to

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help people to be able to turn
towards that different way of living and leading.

665
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Gorgeous And then on your website you
have this really wonderful, plateful way

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of introducing your team, which I
just think is exquisite and divine and inviting.

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So kudos for that, thank you, thank you, wonderful work you're

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doing. So here, you know
we did it. It goes by so

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fast, Alicia, So you know
this show is listening to by people across

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the world, and we're all about
creating workplaces where people actually want to come

671
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to work and do their best.
We have what I call insirational leaders,

672
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or those leading a brighter future who
want to actually lead those people to their

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greatness and we do business a better
as the world. With that in mind,

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what we should like to leave on
listeners with I think I would offer

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a thought a question. The thought
is, you know, my life as

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being an example in the face of
uncertainty and all the stuff we're all struggling

677
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.199
with right now, it is possible
to fully shine. It is possible to

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do it, and I think the
place you start is deciding that it's something

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that you want to do. So
the question I leave is for if folks

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are interested, is to imagine your
life fully shining. What does it look

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like for you? What does the
outside look like if you're fully shining?

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And how does it feel different inside
if you were fully shining? And I

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would just maybe give yourself permission to
play with that question and see how it

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feels and see if that's something that
inspires you, and if it does,

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then the next step will show up
for you after that. That is a

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brilliant way to finish the show.
In fact, Alicia, those are the

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couple of questions that I have people
who write in There's their stories in my

688
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.119
Auntel She's weigh in on exactly those
things. Fascinating. See I'm telling you

689
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maybe out art sisters from another mother. I don't know, but yeah,

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I'll want to figure it out because
I love it. Those such a fun

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conversation. I'm honored to be here, and again, congratulations on seven years.

692
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That's just amazing. Thank you.
I really think that you know,

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you brought a shine literally to this
seven year mark. So I really am

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so glad I found you. Thank
you your publicists for putting us together.

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I loved reading your book and sharing
the concepts with our listeners and viewers and

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to help them shine more and lead
butter futures. So doctor Alicia Hair,

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thank you for joining me as a
guest. Thank you again. Hi welcome

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listeners and viewers. If you want
to learn more about doctor Alicia Hair and

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the work she and her fascinating team
are doing at Tournisal or the book that

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she wrote, The Unfolding Path,
go to lead Brighter dot com. Last

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00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.960
week, you've missed the show live, you can always catch it be recorded

702
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podcast. We were on there with
John Coleman, the managing partner of Sovereign's

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Capital and the author of Crafting Your
Purpose, Leading to Your Strengths, Bring

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00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:04.360
Meeting to work a difference next weekly
on air with doctor Nathaniel Zen talking about

705
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.880
his book The Competent Mind, a
battle tested guide to unshakable performance. See

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you there. Remember that works at
least are their life. So let's work

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on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed
this week's program. Be sure to tune

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into Working on Purpose, featuring your
host, doctor Elise Cortez, each week

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on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.
Together, we'll create a world where business

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operates conscientiously, leadership inspires impassioned performance, and employees are fulfilled in work that

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provides the meaning and purpose they crave. See you there, Let's work on Purpose.