Oct. 4, 2017
Kimberly Davis on Brave Leadership
There’s much talk about the importance of leadership to set a clear vision, engage the hearts and minds of individuals within an organization, and drive critical business results. And we hear about different types of leaders, as researcher and author...
There’s much talk about the importance of leadership to set a clear vision, engage the hearts and minds of individuals within an organization, and drive critical business results. And we hear about different types of leaders, as researcher and author Goleman differentiate – situational, commanding, visionary, democratic, affiliative, pacesetting, coaching. Which one of those should we be? Do we change our position as leaders, depending on the environment and task at hand? Maybe it’s more about the way we lead and the person we show up to be as a leader. Maybe it’s more about pushing ourselves to be brave, courageous, authentic, and just plain bold – even when we don’t think we can be.
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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,
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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.
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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortes. In our program,
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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and
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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five. It's working
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on purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortes. Welcome back to
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Working on Purpose. Thanks for tuning
in again this week. I'm your host,
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Elise Cortes, joining you from Dallas, Texas, which is home base
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for me. This program is all
about helping people more meaningfully and productively connect
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with their work and equipping organizations to
do the same for their employees. So
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I bring on guests who have a
particular perspective or experience that I think expands
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the conversation about meaningful and productive work. And I often draw on the meaning
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of work research I've been doing over
the last fifteen years, as well as
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my own experienced consulting, including the
work I do it Insignium, which is
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a global management consulting firm. I'll
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fun and we each walked away a
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com, navigating to the blog tab, and then under my photo entering your
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name and email address. Now with
us this week is Kimberly Davis, who
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is an expert on authentic leadership and
shares her inspirational message of personal power,
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responsibility, and impact with organizations across
the country. She also teaches leadership programs
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worldwide, including her own program called
on Stage Leadership, which runs in New
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York City and Dallas. She's the
author of the soon to be released book
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called Brave Leadership. Unleash your most
confident, authentic and powerful self to get
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the results you need. We'll be
talking about her actual books, so you
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get kind of a sneak preefy before
it comes out in the beginning of next
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year. Kimberly joins today from Austin, Texas. Kimberly Davis, Welcome back
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to Working on Purpose, a Las
Cortes. I am so excited to be
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on your show with your listeners again
this year. I am too, darn
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it. So I'm going to just
extract as much as I can out of
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you before I let you go in
the next hour. So on your mark
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gets set go. You ready,
okay? I am ready. Okay.
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Since both of us work in the
field of leadership and we do it from
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different vantage points, I think it's
important we kind of segment and start and
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anchor the show in that So I
want to talk a little bit broadly about
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leadership. So from your dvantage point, why do you think it's important for
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any of us to develop the leader
in us? Well, you know,
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I think when you sent me this
question and I was thinking about it,
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I thought, you know, one
of my favorite quotes ever is a Jim
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Roan quote, and he talks about
Jim Jim Roan talks about being a millionaire,
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right, and that's not really what
I think is that important. But
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what he says is become a millionaire
because of what it will make of you.
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And I think that is true about
leadership. I think become a leader
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because of what it will make of
you, because to be a great leader,
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it will require you to bring your
most influential and your best self to
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the world. And I can't think
of a better reason for all of us
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to nurture that part of ourselves.
I love that start Camberley. That's gorgeous.
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And you know, one of the
things that I know from being a
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researcher around investing how people experience meaning
in their work is most people, at
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some level what they want to do
at the end of the day is they
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want to matter, right, they
want to make a difference. And the
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way you just position that is about
making a difference. And I think that's
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a great way to start this conversation. Thank you. Well, it really
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is. It's all about making a
difference and making an impact. Yeah,
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okay, Well along those lines,
one of the things that I've always found
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amazing about you is you have this
phrase, is saying that as leaders,
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we're always on stage, which is
a vulnerable place to be, right,
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We're in that spotlight. People are
looking at us. Now. You even
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named your leadership development company on stage
leadership. So before we get into your
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book, because I got to imagine
some of your book has come from your
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experience of leading that company. Why
did you start your company and what do
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your participants get from participating? Well, so we have to back up a
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little bit because I got a lot
of my insights from the actual stage.
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I did theater for like twenty years, and so what I noticed when I
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was in this theater is that people
you feel pretty vulnerable on the stage when
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people are scrutinizing you, and people
are watching you, and you think people
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are judging you, and you want
to prove yourself. And so when we
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are in our leadership role, we
are also always on stage because people are
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always watching, they're always paying attention, They're always paying attention to what you
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say and what you don't say,
and what you do and you don't do,
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and every minute of every day they're
either choosing you as to be a
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leader or not. And so when
I started putting together my company, I
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drew from tools that we used in
this theater because actors were in that vulnerable
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space and because they applied directly to
leadership, because leaders are always on stage,
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and even if they don't recognize the
fact, they still are always in
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the spotlight. Well, and I
certainly one of the things that I want
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to call out and thank you again
for your support over the years is I
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have been in my own leadership role, as community service leadership or various others.
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You are always there reminding me of
that and helping and cheering me on
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and giving me tools and resources along
the way. So you have been someone
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who has coached me from this,
you know, from the backstage, So
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thank you for that. Well,
I have been the one who has been
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lucky enough to cheer you on because
You've been pretty extraordinary in your efforts.
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So yeah, that's an easy thing
to do. Elisee, Well, thank
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you, my friend. And the
fact that we now get to share this
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vision with everybody else who read your
book, I'm thrilled about that. And
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and to that end, as we
talk about leadership, you know, the
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other end of leadership. And I
had somebody on my show earlier who was
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talking about the actual follower piece of
this whole equation. But you say in
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your book that a leader is somebody
who people want to follow, not have
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to follow. Will you say more
about that? Yeah, So some of
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this, some of what defines leadership
today, or what I feel defines leadership
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today, is the environment that we're
in. And so what is needed from
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a leader today is so different than
it was ten to fifteen years ago,
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because it's a different world than it
was ten to fifty years ago. Ten
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to fifteen years ago, there was
something called security in the workforce, right.
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You know, you could get a
job out of college and you would
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stay at the same job for your
entire career and retire with your gold watch
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and your pension, and all would
be great. But you know, there
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is no such thing as security in
the workforce anymore, and now in the
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workplace is moving faster than ever.
There's more uncertainty than there's ever been before,
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as volatile things are very ambiguous.
There's absolutely The HR world has a
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acronym that they like to use,
which I think it is pretty great.
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It's they call it the VUKA environment
for volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous.
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So it's this VUKA environment that has
really shifted what we need from from
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leaders because in the past, a
leader could pretty much just just use command
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and control. They could say,
you know, do this or has it
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going to roll? But nowadays,
if you were to try that in the
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workforce, and you know, i'd
be foolish to say that isn't happening in
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the workforce today, but it doesn't
work successfully nowadays. If you try command
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and control when people don't feel safe, what are they going to do.
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They're going to stop participating, They're
going to stop bring themselves out there.
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They're not going to call out when
they see a problem. They're not going
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to bring their best because they're going
to do everything they can to just stay
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off the radar, so they can
say stay stay right right right right.
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So yeah, so and if you
apply command and controls all of different emotions
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they're playing out in the workforce,
it just doesn't give you the results that
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you need. So when you counter
that to what will give you the results
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that you need, you really need
to harness the emotional energy in a positive
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way in the workforce. And I
think of that as choice. People need
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people choose to follow you, No, not have to follow you. You
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don't get a paycheck exchange. You
get their wants, their heart. They're
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going to give you the best that
they have to give. If you don't
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have access to their want, all
you're going to get is a warm body
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there to collect the paycheck, put
in their hours. Okay, this is
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so good, Kimberly, if you
don't mind, I want to represence what
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you said before. I've never heard
that acronym, by the way, and
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I think it's really really important that
our listeners really get this because it's so
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important to be able to really give
a context for the way we experience in
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how we do our work today,
especially if you contrast that to say,
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fifteen twenty years ago. And keep
in mind that this show is listened to
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across the globe, so there are
various countries and various developments that hear this
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show, and many of them are
you know, may still be in that
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command and control and moving away from
it. So this is fascinating, right,
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So tell us again about that,
well, and what's what's the evolution?
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Where are things going to go or
might go? Depends on the culture.
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Yeah, yeah, So the actronom
again is what did you say?
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It's the VUKA v u c A
v u c A okay, and again
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that stands for volatile, uncertain,
complex and ambiguous. Okay. This is
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so important to be able to situate
why well, why a new way of
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leading is so important? Okay,
So before we get into really you know
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what you mean by brave, I
guess what I want to get into next
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is you talk about the importance of
unlocking the wanton followers. And I heard
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you talk about, you know,
that whole being able to harness the positive
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emotional energy from the workplace as opposed
to coming from a place of fear and
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an uncertainty. And you know,
I appreciate the way you position that,
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Kimberly, because you're right, when
we go into a place of fear,
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we generally kind of cower into the
corner usually, right, that's how right?
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How many of us will respond when
we're afraid? Exactly? Hey,
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Alice, have I ever shared with
you? There's a great metaphor that Dan
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and Chip Heaths used in their book
Switch No it's hard. Yeah, it's
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a fantastic it's a fantastic metaphor.
And so in their books, which they
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compare our emotions to that of a
three ton elephant, right, and they
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compare our logic to the little guy
who's perched on top of the elephant,
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you know, the elephant writer.
Now, when the elephant and the elephant
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writer want to go in the same
direction, everything is cool, right,
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all right? So got it?
What happens when the elephant wants to go
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in a different direction than the writer? Who's going to win? I think
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the elephant's kind of win the elephant
every time, right, exactly, elephant
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every time. And the funny thing
is is it in our workplace we say,
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you know, leave your emotions at
the door. There's no room for
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emotions here. But the truth is
is if you're not paying attention to the
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work, the emotion and the workforce, it's like the elephant, it's going
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to run right over you, it's
going to make a big mess. It's
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the big problem if you don't deal
with it. And so we and I'm
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not suggesting that it's all about the
elephant. We've got to find a healthy
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alignment between our emotions and our Logy's
got to have a very healthy respect for
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the fact that this is what's showing
up in our workforce, that when people
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are in a meeting and they're feeling
stressed and overwhelmed and frightened and worried about
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their jobs, and this is and
how does that manifest? Oh my gosh,
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So Kimberly, just really quick,
just just to kind of bring this
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home for people. So when we're
working with organizations and insignium, of course
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we're really we're very present to the
importance and the profundity of emotions in the
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workplace. Right, They're certainly not
to be ignored. There to be understood
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and presence in a way that it
will be effective and efficient and yield the
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results that you want. But first
we got to be aware of what they
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actually are. So they're oftentimes hanging
around there in the background, and you
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know, we don't really know about
that. The trick is to be able
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to really bring them into the foreground
so we can actually give a name to
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them, call them, recognize them
for what they are, right, and
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then be able to address them whether
they're showing up negatively or positively for us.
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So I just think I really want
to applaud what you're saying about this
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emotional piece in the workplace. And
I remember the days when people used to
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say, it's not it's not personal, it's just business. Get past it.
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Yeah, remember that well? And
truly, how can you how can
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you connect to the want of others
if you don't know what they're what's going
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on with them emotionally exactly? Really
hand well, and especially as leaders,
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right, because you talked about catalyzing
results through positive emotions. Okay, yeah,
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that's right. Okay, Well then
along those lines speaking of emotions,
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I mean, you've written a whole
book about brave leadership. So what do
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you mean by brave? Well,
okay, so let me first say what
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the dictionary means by brave, because
you're totally different from what I think of
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brave as right, And you wonder
at least why you think of when you
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go into a situation where you need
to put yourself out there when you need
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to do something scary, you need
to give a presentation or have a really
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tough conversation with someone. Why you
feel that kind of I want to throw
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up feeling? You know, I
need to be brave here. I need
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to be brave here. But it
doesn't feel like a good thing, right.
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Your experience of I need to be
brave doesn't feel positive. It feels
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really icky in your stomach, right, And so I was like, why
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is that? And so I actually
looked it up in the dictionary and they
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define brave is ready to face fear
and endure danger or pain. Oh my
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gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, really, who gets excited
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about that? I want to get
up in the morning and face me some
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danger and pain. I can't wait
for that, right, sign me up.
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It's it's a way of looking at
it that is going to completely disempower
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you. Right. So I knew
that if that's how I looked at being
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brave, that it would stop me
in my tracks because I don't want to
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base and endure danger or pain anymore
than anybody else does. Right, So
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I knew I needed to reframe it
for myself. And so the way I
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define brave is your best, most
authentic and powerful self. And it's a
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lot more complex than it sounds,
you know, right at first, because
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when you know, I think about
when I think about my best self,
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right, my best self is not
someone who's disrespectful or unkind. My best
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self is someone who's blaming other or
showing contempt. My best self is more
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patient, more curious, caring,
positive, constructive, probably articulate, definitely
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more hopeful than otherwise. Right.
If brave is anchored in your best self,
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it forces you to take responsibility for
yourself. What I so appreciate about
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what you're saying, So go ahead
to hear only something else ahead? Yeah,
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no, no, no, go
ahead, go ahead. Well what
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I was going to put that into
the context? I literally, just before
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getting on the ERA with you,
finished a coaching call with one of one
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of our clients. And she's really
also she's she is an executive leader,
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and she wants to continue developing her
persona, her message, and she really
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understands the importance of being able to
develop that inspirational, motivational aspect of who
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she is a leader, to be
able to bring people along and make them
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want to come with her on the
journey. And so When I hear you
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talk about this whole notion of brave
leadership, what I hear is like a
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reaching through to be able to grab
people, to grab them along the journey
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with you. That's what I hear
when you talk. Because connecting to their
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want is a byproduct. Right If
I can bring my brave self, my
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best, most authentic and powerful self, the byproduct of that is they want
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to follow. The byproduct of that
is they want to engage, they want
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to give their best, they want
to be a part of whatever it is
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undoing, They want to listen.
Right, But it's a byproduct. You
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can go, you go after I
want people to listen to me, and
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you're not going to show but a
way that they actually want to listen to
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you, right right, But if
you show up as your best, most
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authentic and powerful self, the byproduct
is that they will want to listen to
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you. Mm hmm. And isn't
it amazing? And here's what's really great
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about that? And perfect time because
we're just about to go for a break
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here. But what's great about that, Kimberly, is that when I think
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about like the best times when I've
ever been in front of a group and
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I wanted them to come with me. I know they're with me by how
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they're looking at me. Right,
there's an energy exchange that happens, right,
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And I think that's what you're describing. And then you mentioned you know
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the byproduct piece of that, then
you know you've already e've hit it.
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But that connection of the eyeballs and
the heartbeat that goes with it, I
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think is what you're talking about.
Yes, absolutely, it's the heartbeat.
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When you said the heart beat,
it's all emotion, it's all elephants want
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lives in the heart. I mean, you can logic your way out of
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it, but if you don't want
it, you can't stake it. Right,
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No want I love that, And
what a perfect way to take us
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into the break. So hopefully we'll
get folks still want more. I'm a
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the air with Kimberly Davis, who is
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who also gave a ted ex called What
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it Means to Be Brave. She's
the author of Brave Leadership Unleash your most
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confident, authentic and powerful self to
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leadership and shares her inspirational message of
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organizations across the country. She also
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called on Stage Leadership, which runs
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the author of the soon to be
a released book called Brave Leadership. Unleash
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your most confident, authentic and powerful
self to get the results you need.
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She joined us today from Austin,
Texas. I'm your host, Alice Cortes.
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So as we continue this conversation,
Miss Kimberly, I think it probably
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is not a bad idea for us
to talk about authenticity and for those listeners
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that maybe think they know what that
means, I want to get them on
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the same page as what you want
it to be. What do you mean
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by authenticity? Yeah, well,
I find just signing brave is your best,
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most authentic and powerful self. I
guess we probably should talk about what
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it means to be authentic, because
authenticity is one of those words that gets
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bandied about so much that we love. What does that mean, right.
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I mean if you anybody who's been
on Facebook on any day of the week
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could look at can find a post
that says be authentic, be yourself,
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doesn't matter what anybody thinks. And
that's all great and good, except for
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in the framework of leadership and influence
it doesn't work. So I actually steal
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my definition of authenticity from a guy
named Bill George. And mister George used
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to be the CEO from the Tronic
and Elli's on the Harvard works for the
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Harvard Business School for the School of
Management, and he wrote a book called
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Authentic Leadership, so he gets to
be the guru of authentic leadership. He
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also wrote True North, which is
his most recent book, and it's got
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a lot of acclaim. But mister
George's definition of authenticity is are you genuine
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worthy of trust, reliance and belief? And what makes that so complex is
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that you don't get to decide.
You don't get to decide if you're genuine,
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worthy of trust, reliance and belief. The people around you get to
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decide. Do they experience you this? Do your listeners experience you as worthy
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of belief? Does your boss experience
you as believable? As genuine You don't
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get to decide that other people get
to decide. And that makes it really,
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really complex, because what your boss
is going to need from you to
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experience you as worthy of trust is
going to be very different than something your
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colleagues might need from you, or
what your client is going to need from
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you. Yeah, and so it
doesn't mean, now, let me be
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very clear about this. It doesn't
mean you become this chameleon kind of person
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and I'll be whatever you want me
to be and whatever you want me to
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be. No, what it means
is that you have to have a healthy
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respect for the fact that every human
being you come in contact with is going
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to have a different set of needs, and so for them to experience you
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as genuine worthy of trust, reliance
and belief, you have to be able
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to connect to those needs. And
what I'm getting from that, Miss Kimberly,
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you tell me if I've got this
right. Based because you're the one
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that knows this better and you've been
up to your eyeballs really studying this and
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thinking about how to talk about it. It seems to me that since you're
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trying to appeal across to all that
different that those sets of needs. What
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you're really probably doing, if you're
really active from a place of authenticity,
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is you're activating the parts of yourself
that speak to those things, if you
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can absolutely absolutely Yeah. So for
example, Elise, I tend to be
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a pretty gregarious person. I'm,
you know, pretty bubbly and and vivacious,
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some people might describe me. But
when I go to speak to let's
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say, I'm going to speak to
a group of bankers, I've really kind
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of got to dial myself back a
little bit. And that doesn't mean I'm
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changing who I am, but that
means if I go in there and hey,
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hi, you doing, They're not
going to be able to hear me.
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And if my job is to connect
to their want so they can learn
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what I have to share and benefit
from the tools I have to offer,
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then I cannot I cannot lose sight
of the fact that what they need from
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me is to show up in a
way that is not going to be so
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foreign for them. Mm hmmm m. And then then as we develop our
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relationship, I get more latitude to
to let myself cut myself loose a little
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bit, let your hair down,
if you will, uh huh yeah.
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Yeah. But I've already established trust
and rapport, then they've already experienced me
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as genuine worthy of trust, reliance
and beliefs. M But I haven't.
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I have to go in very mindful
what do these people need from me?
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What does this person need for me? What does this person need for me
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to experience me as genuine worthy tress, reliance and belief. And what that
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requires is that at every minute,
you're always having to pay attention to the
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impact that you're having on other people. It empathy and action. Yeah,
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being very present to that is really
a true talent, a true skill to
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be able to be really present to
that in the moment right. It can
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be so hard to do to a
last It is something that it takes constant
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mindfulness and sometimes, you know,
sometimes I'll miss it and I won't realize
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that I've missed it. But my
focus of attention has to be so clear
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that I want to connect to that. Mm hmmmmm. I totally got that.
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And of course we all miss that
sometimes. But to the extent that
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we can be is mindful and conscious
as we can going into these situations right,
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the better serve that we are right
right absolutely, And what's so great
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about that definition is I think it
helps with everything. It becomes a filter
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for preparation. So, how do
you prepare for a one on one with
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your boss so he will experience you
or she will experience you this genuine really
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you trust reliance and belief? How
do you prepare for a shareholder meeting so
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they experience you as genuine worthy you
trust, reliance and belief? How do
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you dress so they experience you as
worthy of trust? What kind of language
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do you use when you when you're
in that situation? It becomes a filter
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for everything, And I like it
so much better than categorizing the situational leadership
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forces you. I'm not going to
put my visionary hat on I am,
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I'm going to put my coaching hat
on. This requires you, It requires
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you to exercise all of those parts
of yourself based on what other people need.
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Mm hmmmm hm. I so get
that, And that is so powerful
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to presence that kimberly before we actually
get into brave. So I love that.
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So anything else on authenticity before we
actually dive into the barriers to brave.
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No, I think I think that
we've I think that we've given given
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them enough to be dangerous Okay,
good, that's what we want. We
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want our listeners to be dangerous to
stuff is good. Go forth and be
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dangerous with this stuff. Yeah,
okay, Well I thought it was really
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important, you know, you and
I were chatting on the break just to
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make sure that we could really position
the authenticity piece of this, because it's
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part of what you have in your
in your definition of brave. So you
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know, you you there's a there's
a whole section about, you know,
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barriers to brave in your book,
and I want to be able to present
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this for our listeners about what's the
kind of stuff that gets in the way
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of us being brave. So let's
talk a bit about that that section there.
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What gets in the way? Kimberly, Yeah, I think so the
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biggest thing that gets in the way
is how we see the world, our
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focus of attention, how we see
ourselves and how we see the world.
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What are we paying attention to?
Okay, so how you see yourself.
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So our focus will trigger our feelings, which will trigger our behaviors. So
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if you're focused on being afraid,
if you're focused on what people might think,
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you focus on people, you might
make a mistake or you might look
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stupid, right, The feelings that
are going to come up for you are
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going to be a lot lot of
anxiety. You're going to you're going to
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you're going to feel a lot of
fear. What's going to happen, then,
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is your the amygdala in your brain, the part of your brain and
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the frontal cortex that is in charge
for all emotion Management's going to send all
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of this cortisol, the stress hormone
right through your body. And so you're
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going to start experiencing your stomach's going
to clench, and your hands might sweat,
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and your muscles might tense up,
and your breast might your breathing might
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get short, right, So you'll
have a physiological reaction to it as well.
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And when you have this physiological reaction, then then then that will inform
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how you show up in the world, right, and it will inform the
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actions that you take. So when
we feel these things physiologically, we'll start
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to do things to protect ourselves or
or well we'll go into the fight or
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flight mode, or well we'll want
to push so we try to overcome those
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feelings, but it will affect the
way we behave in the world. So
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our focus triggers are behaviors, which
triggers our focus. Triggers are feelings,
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which triggers are behaviors. Well,
let me your results. Yeah, that's
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exactly right, gotcha. Example.
So, as you know, Elice,
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I moved from Seattle to Dallas.
Gosh, I want to say it was
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about Beto over ten years ago.
So I moved from Seattle to Dallas ten
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years ago. Seattle Dallas very very
different cities, as you know, because
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you've lived in both cities, right, Yes, I have. When I
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first moved to Dallas. Nothing personal
my friends in Dallas, but I hated
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Dallas. I hated Dallas for like
two solid years because I had I decided
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very very early on that I don't
belong in Dallas, right, so I
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would I would go to the grocery
store. Now, Seattle is like this
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really casual culture. You could wear
fleas to a five star restaurant, right,
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you go to the grocery store.
In Dallas, people are wearing you
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know, three and child four and
chields and bling to the grocery store.
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Right, I got whoa what with
that? And in Dallas people talk to
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each other in the in line at
Starbucks. And Seattle we all kept very
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much to ourselves, right, and
and Dallas was flat and seattle and mountains
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and everything I saw I would compare
and trast and compare and contrast. Dallas
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is this, Seattle is that?
And I reconfirmed I don't belong in Dallas,
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right, and telling myself I don't
belong in Dallas. Everything I saw,
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every situation I found myself in reconfirmed
that, because that's where my focus
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of attention was that I was looking
for reasons to prove myself right that I
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don't belong in Dallas. Well,
like two years into living in Dallas,
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and I have no recollection of what
happened, but there was some kind of
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triggering event in my life two years
later that all of a sudden, I
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went, Oh, my gosh,
I love Dallas. Dallas is the best
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place on the planet. And I
it was. It was hilarious. I
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would go for these long walks on
Swiss Avenue and look at the live oak
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trees and think, these are the
most gorgeous trees ever. And I would
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look at the sunshine and sunshine every
day. This is a miracle. And
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everybody is so kind and warm and
friendly. I just loved the people of
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Dallas. And I remember so distinctly
flying into Dallas after doing the business trip,
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and I landed in the airport and
everyone looked so dressed up and so
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nice, and I thought, the
people in Dallas take such good care of
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themselves. Look that everyone. But
I mean, it's hilarious beliefs, because
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the thing is, Dallas never changed, got it right, Dallas was always
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Dallas. The only thing that changed
was the way I looked at it,
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yes, ma'am, m hm right. And so when the way I looked
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at it changed, the way I
showed up in this situations changed, so
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that I met all of these wonderful
people. I started engaging in the world,
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because who's going to engage if you
believe that you don't along there?
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That's it, right, right?
That was a beautiful illustration, kimber La,
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Do you really really situated that so
that I think people can understand that
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it's all about how we see things. It's all about how we see things.
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Now, then you map that to
personal power, right, if you
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believe something about yourself. Now,
our beliefs about ourselves come from so many
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different things. They come from our
experiences and our histories. Our brains start
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making meaning of what people say to
us half the time is not making the
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right meaning. You know, we're
inferring things from comments. We're making decisions
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about ourselves. Right, Like when
I was a little girl, I had
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very early on and I won't go
into the whole story about it, but
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very early on, I had decided
that I was an athletics. Yeah,
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I'm like, well, I'm just
not athletics. And so when it came
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to so, you know, elementary
school, all the other kids would be
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playing kickball on the playground and I'd
kind of hang in the back because of
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course I wasn't athletic, right,
And then when I went off to college
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and then we had to take dance
classes for my theater degree, I would
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be the one in the back trying
to not be noticed because you know,
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I wasn't athletic, and I didn't
want people to know I'm not athletics.
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And I just never got involved in
anything that was that would require anything any
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athleticism at all, because I of
course wasn't athletics. And then about gosh,
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when I was. It wasn't until
I was thirty seven years old when
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I when I went to this I
heard the speaker talk about the three day
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Breast Cancer Walk, and I got
so inspired by what they were doing that
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I registered to do this three day
walk. And when you do a three
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day sixty mile walk, you have
to train, and you have to train
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really hard for this. You know
this because you do long distance running in
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these amazing events, But you have
to train. And I had never trained
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for anything in my life. Right, And as I'm on, you know,
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day two of this this sixty mile
walk, and I've you know,
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I've walked nineteen miles that day and
then where they've got these huge hills and
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the heat, and I was walking
with like twenty five one hundred women,
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many of them who had been through
chemo or cancer survivors, some of them
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had you know, had just had
just quit chemo, none of them complaining,
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you know, And it pushed me
to a level that I had never
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pushed myself before. And when I
crossed that finish line after walking sixty miles
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for the first time in my life, I thought, well, maybe I'm
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athletic after all, or not I
might not be athletic, but it was
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no longer my truth, right,
because we can have into what you decide
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about yourself, right, this is
what's possible for me, this is who
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I am. And when you think
about how that affects the way you show
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up in the world, it changes
everything. Yes, it does. I
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know that very well because of the
work that we do it Insignium, because
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it's so much about, you know, the mindset that we show up,
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we allow ourselves to show up with
and being present and cognizant to what is
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that right, because half the battle
is being aware of what is that that
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we're telling ourselves. Absolutely, absolutely, So these are the things I find
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to be the biggest barriers to brave. It's the way we look at,
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the way we focus our attention.
So we're focusing our attention on these these
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decisions we've made about ourselves and these
decisions we've made about other people and the
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world and how we fit in.
Then we're going to live into that and
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it's going to affect the way we
interact with other people, is going to
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affect what's possible for us, because
we won't put ourselves out there in a
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way that is going to be anything
different than what we've decided. Kimberly,
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that is a perfect way for us
to let our listeners sit and germinate while
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we go on and break here,
because what I want them to get is
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I want them to get really clear
about being able to have access. I
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want them to see that you've given
them access to something for themselves. So
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hold the thoughts, listeners, take
a little bit of time to think about
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that while we go on break.
I'm Alice Cortez, your host. We've
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been on the air with Kimberly Davis, who was the founder of on Stage
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Leadership, who also gave a ted
X talk called what it Means to Be
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Brave. She's the author of Brave
Leadership Unleast You're most confident, authentic and
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powerful self to get the results you
need, which is endorsed by Dan Pink.
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After the break, we're going to
get more into how we can actually
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get to be more brave developing our
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My guest is Kimberly Davis, who
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shares her inspirational message of personal power, responsibility, and impact with organizations across
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the country. She also teaches leadership
programs worldwide, including her program called On
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Stage Leadership, which runs in New
York City and Dallas. She is the
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author of the soon to be released
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confident, authentic and powerful self to
get the results you need. And by
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the way, that comes out on
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pre order it on Amazon dot Com
now. And Miss Kimberly joins us today
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from Austin, Texas. I'm your
host elis Cortes. Okay, so Kimberly.
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In the beginning, we talked about
yes, jesuys, what what do
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you want me to talk about?
So well, I am too say this
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is just really good stuff. So
we talked in the beginning about you know,
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why is leadership important? What's what
does brave mean? We talked about
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what gets in the way of brave. For this last segment, I want
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I want us to get to So
how do we get to brave? What
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do we do? Yeah? Well, okay, so let me back up
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just a second. Release. You
know how when I talked about uh,
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I did theater for years, right
yep. And what I what I learned
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in the theater is that when an
actor can get really crystal clear on this
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is this is what drives me,
this is this is what I stand for,
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and then they can focus all of
their attention instead of on the audience,
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instead of trying to these selfs,
instead of trying to get a good
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review instead of what people think about
them. If they can take their minds
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off of that and instead focus all
of their attention on having some kind of
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impact on someone or something on the
stage with them, what it does is
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it automatically refocuses their brain, so
it overrides their amygdala, that part in
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your bod, that part in your
brain that's designed to keep you safe.
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Right, our migdala is the center
for emotion management, and it is its
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job is to make sure we survive. So anytime it senses risk, it's
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going to send those those physical sensations
through your body, which is going to
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have you do weird things and show
up different, show up strangely in life,
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and protect yourself and not be as
powerful as you can be. But
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what happens is if you can focus
your attention on action to achieve impact,
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it will override your amigdala, so
you don't experience any of those same sensations,
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that same sense, that vulnerability that
you feel. You don't experience that
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you're completely focused on taking action to
achieve purpose. It's connected to who you
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are internally. So a focus on
action to have an impact is what allows
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us to be brave, a focus
on action out to take to impact someone
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or something outside ourselves. Mm hmm, Kimberly, you know what you're reminding
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me of? Can I just say
this since? Do you tell me if
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I've got the right application to what
you just said? There? So I
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have the wonderful ability to get to
go out and speak to various audiences.
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And I love to speak to women, especially about leadership and really being their
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true best selves and working on purpose
and through their passions. I love doing
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that. And of course there are
occasions when I get up a warning to
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go give one of those speeches,
and I don't feel fantastic, I don't
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feel brave, I don't feel like
I'm you know all that I want to
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be able to deliver a message like
that. So I got to get myself
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there right so I can deliver something
that will be useful to these women.
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And so what I tend to do
and I prepare for that and I get
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myself I work on that place of
intention is I get myself into the place
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of doesn't matter where I'm at,
how I feel. What do I want
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to give these women today? What
can I do that will actually that's perfect
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Okay, Okay, okay, sample, yes, because what you're doing is
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you're harnessing your attention m hm,
which helps you override your amingala. Right.
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So now when you're in space with
them, you can show up more
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powerfully because your focus of attention is
completely on what am I giving to them
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is active and connected to who you
are internally inherently. Okay, So this
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what I think, because I have
obviously read some of your book, and
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I think what this is connecting to
is you've got a chapter in there called
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action from the Insight out. Is
this part of what you're drawing from?
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Yeah? Absolutely. So. One
of the ways we get to what drives
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us and what the language I use
around that is your super objective. What's
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the effect you want to have?
What's your super objective? Okay, yeah,
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I remember that you're super objective.
Yeah. One of the ways we
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get to the super objective it is
first to kind of unearth what are your
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beliefs and values and strengths and all
of that, because your super objective encompasses
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all of those things, right,
And I don't know if you remember,
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at least a few years ago,
there was a lot of talk out there
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about leadership philosophy, and people are
talking about what's your leadership philosophy, And
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leadership philosophy is largely your belief it's
and so an example of leadership philosophy would
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be I believe in respect and dignity
for all people, right, Okay,
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And that's a lovely thing to believe. Yeah, but you can believe that
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and believe that and believe that and
believe that, but it's not going to
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change anything. Right. Whereas a
super objective lives in action, you can't
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achieve a super objective from the sidelines. So if you were going to translate
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that into super objective language, you
might say, I champion respecting dignity for
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all people. Right, You cannot
champion from the sidelines. To champion is
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going to require you to take action. It's to champion, it's going to
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require you to stand up for someone
you believe is being treated disrespectfully. Right.
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If to champion respecting dignity is going
to force you to find something to
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respect about people you may not like
very much, which can be really hard
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to do. Right, Right,
to champion respecting dignity for all people is
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going to require you to create conversation
and stir things up, and it's going
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to require action. And the action
is going to require is not always going
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to be easy action. It's going
to hold your feet to the fire because
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if you are truly a champion for
respecting dignity for all people, you have
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to you have to say, well, what what action can I take in
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this situation to do that? What
can I what can I do in this
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conversation to champion respecting dignity? What
can I do on this call to champion
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respecting dignity? What can I do
in this needing to champion respecting dignity for
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all people? Because if that's who
you truly are, then it should show
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up in every situation you face.
And then when you don't do that,
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because guess what, you're human,
you're going to you're going to miss the
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mark more times than you're going to
hit it. Probably, Then if you've
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got that clarity of thought, that
clarity is focused. What do I stand
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for? I stand for championing respect
and dignity for all people? Right?
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Did I do it in this in
this conversation? Yes? Or no?
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No? Okay? What action can
I take to get myself closer? So
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I self as the person that I
know I truly am and want to be.
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How do I clean it up?
It's just so yummy? It is
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so yummy. Now along those lines, we're getting close to the finish er.
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If you don't mind, what I'd
love to do because I know there's
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listeners who are listening to this and
they're they're getting the concepts, and I
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know they're getting inspired by it.
But I also want to be able to
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give those listeners who want to walk
away with like a list or something like,
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you know, how can I put
this to work tomorrow? You have
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a chapter in your book that gets
to six steps to prepare for impact.
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Some of those things you've already talked
about, you've already mentioned some of them.
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But for the benefit of listeners who
want to walk away with do these
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things that'll make a difference, would
you just quickly describe those six steps?
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Yeah? Absolutely, so. The
first thing you always always want to do
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is to focus your attention. So
you want to get clear on what do
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the people need from you to experience
you is genuine worthy of trust, reliance
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and belief, right based on their
needs, not your agenda? Right?
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What do they need from you?
And then and then inherent in that is
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you. Also part of focusing your
attention is getting clear what's the impact you
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want to have? Yep, So
what do they need from you to experience
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you with genuine where your trust,
alliance and belief? What's the impact you
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want to have. If you can
focus your attention on that and make sure
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your actions are in alignment with that, the byproduct is you will connect to
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their wants m m okay, right. They'll want to participate, they'll want
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to listen, they want to follow, they want to be a part of
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what you're doing. The next thing
you need to make sure you're doing is
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you want to prepare authentically for that
experience. Right, So what do they
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need from you to experience you as
genuine, worthy your trust, reliance,
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and belief. How do you prepare
for that? You want to make sure
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that that if you're meeting with your
boss, you've prepared in a way that
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she will experience you as worthy of
trust. Got it? You know what
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information? What data? What?
Stories? What? What? What?
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What? What kind of preparation do
you need to do for that situation?
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So using that definition of authenticity to
help you prepare and the next thing you
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want to do is you really want
to come in as your best self,
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so you want to make sure you
breathe and remove all tensions. So here's
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a really interesting thing, at least
you know. It's when when we when
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we get nervous or anxious or overwhelmed
or stressed, our breathing gets naturally more
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and more shallow, so we start
uh cutting off our breaths. And what's
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really interesting about that is that our
brains need oxygen to function, yes,
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And so people think, oh,
yeah, you don't need to talk to
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me about breathing. I've got the
breathing thing down. Yet at the same
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time, when we're stressed, when
we're overwhelmed, when we're anxious, we
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we naturally do that as a survival
mechanism. Okay, So the very first
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thing you want to do, truly
in any situation space, especially if the
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stakes are high, is to just
ground yourself and breathe. Okay, And
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then the next thing you want to
do is to remove all tension, because
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tension blocks authentic expression. You can't
go into a situation if you're carrying a
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lot of tension. And we all
carry tension in different places in our bodies,
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so some of us carry tension in
our shoulders, some of us in
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our hands, most in our necks, some of us in our jaws.
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It's really important that you can name
where do I personally carry my tension,
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so you can release that tension before
you go in. You can roll your
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shoulders back, so you take a
deep breath, you ground yourself, you
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roll your shoulders until you release the
tension so you can go in and be
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physically physically where you need to be
in order to connect to the want of
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others. And then you need to
go in. And we talked about this
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earlier and the appsoletely present. When
when I say present, I mean you
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need to be so present that the
stakes are your your that the stakes are
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like your life is on the line. You want to connect us that your
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life is on the line. Because
what happens is we go in and we
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have our own agenda and we're not
paying attention to what other people need.
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What's going on with the other person? Have they heard what we've had to
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say, And we cannot connect to
the want of others if we don't,
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if we if we if if we're
not with them, they it's it's impossible.
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So I find it really interesting when
I teach executive presence, the very
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first thing I say is that presence
requires you to be present. And it's
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even in the definition of presence.
So people think presence is all about charisma.
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Presence is absolutely all about being absolutely
mentally in the here and now with
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the people you're with. And that
is one of the hardest things to do
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in the workplace today because there's so
much going on because of the luka environment.
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Right. Yeah, And then you
are so present that you're able to
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pay attention to impact. So step
number five is pay attention to impact.
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You will if you go in and
you say, what is the impact I
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want to have. I want to
champion respect and dignity for our people.
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Well, did I have that impact? Yes or no? Got it?
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Yeah, Because if you're not paying
attention to impact, you won't be able
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to course correct Kimberly, we're almost
out of time, and I'll make sure
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we can actually announce where to find
this. So the last one I know
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is create the last one to create
rituals. Just make sure you're putting things
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in place to keep you mindful of
the things you need to do to bring
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your best Let's authentic and powerful self
to the table and that's a perfect way
739
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actually right there for us to finish. I want to just let you be
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able to take that breath and take
your bow and let me thank you for
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being on the show and sharing your
passion, your wisdom what you can teach
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the listeners across the globe about brave
leadership. Kimberly Davis, thank you for
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joining me today. I'm working on
purpose. Thank you, Lise. This
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was a great fun. It was
great fun, always great fun. Okay,
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so listeners, remember I mentioned this
earlier. If you want to get
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a copy of her book, Brave
Leadership, it comes out January sixteenth,
747
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:19.320
but you can pre order today on
Amazon dot com. If you want to
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learn more about Kimberly Davis and her
leadership courses or her seem to be released
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book, visit her website. It's
onstage leadership dot com. Now. Next
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week, we will be on the
air with the founder and fireball of a
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Coola project. Her name is Brittany
Merrill Underwood. We'll be talking about the
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work she and her team are doing
to empower women across the globe to transform
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families by addressing poverty through her nonprofit
organization based Terran Dallas. She was alerted
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to me by one of my students
at Southern Memphis University. When I talked
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about purpose and passion in the classrooms, I kicked it off. One of
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the students put her hand up in
the back. She said, Oh,
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I've got someone you've got to talk
with. So that is who I'll be
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sharing with you on the show next
week. So join us in remember that
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workers won through our lives, So
let's work on Purpose. We hope you've
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enjoyed this week's program. Be sure
to tune into Working on Purpose, featuring
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your host Elise Cortes, every Wednesday
at six pm Eastern Time three pm Pacific
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Time on the Voice America Empowerment Channel. This week, find your life's purpose
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at work.
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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,
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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.
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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortes. In our program,
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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and
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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five. It's working
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on purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortes. Welcome back to
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Working on Purpose. Thanks for tuning
in again this week. I'm your host,
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Elise Cortes, joining you from Dallas, Texas, which is home base
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for me. This program is all
about helping people more meaningfully and productively connect
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with their work and equipping organizations to
do the same for their employees. So
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I bring on guests who have a
particular perspective or experience that I think expands
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the conversation about meaningful and productive work. And I often draw on the meaning
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of work research I've been doing over
the last fifteen years, as well as
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my own experienced consulting, including the
work I do it Insignium, which is
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a global management consulting firm. I'll
get to the program in just a second,
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but let me thank my media partner
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jobbing dot Com. Last week,
if you missed the show, we were
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on the air with Sean Anderson,
by far and away my favorite and I
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think the only extra Mile America,
an Extra Mile World motivational author and speaker.
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We had an in depth conversation about
what it takes to live a great
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life, and we each shared our
perspectives on the topic. It was hopelessly
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fun and we each walked away a
little bit more inspired to live the best
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live says we each were informed by
the other. So if you miss that
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show, go back and grab the
podcast. By the way, if you
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want to receive alerts in advance of
my live radio show conversations to know what's
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coming, you can join my mailing
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com, navigating to the blog tab, and then under my photo entering your
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name and email address. Now with
us this week is Kimberly Davis, who
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is an expert on authentic leadership and
shares her inspirational message of personal power,
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responsibility, and impact with organizations across
the country. She also teaches leadership programs
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worldwide, including her own program called
on Stage Leadership, which runs in New
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York City and Dallas. She's the
author of the soon to be released book
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called Brave Leadership. Unleash your most
confident, authentic and powerful self to get
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the results you need. We'll be
talking about her actual books, so you
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get kind of a sneak preefy before
it comes out in the beginning of next
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year. Kimberly joins today from Austin, Texas. Kimberly Davis, Welcome back
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to Working on Purpose, a Las
Cortes. I am so excited to be
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on your show with your listeners again
this year. I am too, darn
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it. So I'm going to just
extract as much as I can out of
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you before I let you go in
the next hour. So on your mark
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gets set go. You ready,
okay? I am ready. Okay.
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Since both of us work in the
field of leadership and we do it from
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different vantage points, I think it's
important we kind of segment and start and
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anchor the show in that So I
want to talk a little bit broadly about
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leadership. So from your dvantage point, why do you think it's important for
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any of us to develop the leader
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I think when you sent me this
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I thought, you know, one
of my favorite quotes ever is a Jim
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Roan quote, and he talks about
Jim Jim Roan talks about being a millionaire,
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right, and that's not really what
I think is that important. But
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what he says is become a millionaire
because of what it will make of you.
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And I think that is true about
leadership. I think become a leader
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because of what it will make of
you, because to be a great leader,
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it will require you to bring your
most influential and your best self to
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the world. And I can't think
of a better reason for all of us
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to nurture that part of ourselves.
I love that start Camberley. That's gorgeous.
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researcher around investing how people experience meaning
in their work is most people, at
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some level what they want to do
at the end of the day is they
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want to matter, right, they
want to make a difference. And the
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way you just position that is about
making a difference. And I think that's
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a great way to start this conversation. Thank you. Well, it really
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is. It's all about making a
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okay, Well along those lines,
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amazing about you is you have this
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we're always on stage, which is
a vulnerable place to be, right,
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We're in that spotlight. People are
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named your leadership development company on stage
leadership. So before we get into your
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book, because I got to imagine
some of your book has come from your
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experience of leading that company. Why
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your participants get from participating? Well, so we have to back up a
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little bit because I got a lot
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was in this theater is that people
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people are scrutinizing you, and people
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are judging you, and you want
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are in our leadership role, we
are also always on stage because people are
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always watching, they're always paying attention, They're always paying attention to what you
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say and what you don't say,
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and every minute of every day they're
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leader or not. And so when
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drew from tools that we used in
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space and because they applied directly to
leadership, because leaders are always on stage,
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and even if they don't recognize the
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the spotlight. Well, and I
certainly one of the things that I want
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to call out and thank you again
for your support over the years is I
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have been in my own leadership role, as community service leadership or various others.
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You are always there reminding me of
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and giving me tools and resources along
the way. So you have been someone
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who has coached me from this,
you know, from the backstage, So
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thank you for that. Well,
I have been the one who has been
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lucky enough to cheer you on because
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So yeah, that's an easy thing
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you, my friend. And the
fact that we now get to share this
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vision with everybody else who read your
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and to that end, as we
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other end of leadership. And I
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talking about the actual follower piece of
this whole equation. But you say in
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your book that a leader is somebody
who people want to follow, not have
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to follow. Will you say more
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this, some of what defines leadership
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today, is the environment that we're
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a leader today is so different than
it was ten to fifteen years ago,
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because it's a different world than it
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to fifteen years ago, there was
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stay at the same job for your
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and your pension, and all would
be great. But you know, there
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is no such thing as security in
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workplace is moving faster than ever.
There's more uncertainty than there's ever been before,
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as volatile things are very ambiguous.
There's absolutely The HR world has a
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acronym that they like to use,
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It's they call it the VUKA environment
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leaders because in the past, a
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and control. They could say,
you know, do this or has it
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going to roll? But nowadays,
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workforce, and you know, i'd
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the workforce today, but it doesn't
work successfully nowadays. If you try command
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and control when people don't feel safe, what are they going to do.
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They're going to stop participating, They're
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They're not going to call out when
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to bring their best because they're going
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off the radar, so they can
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they're playing out in the workforce,
it just doesn't give you the results that
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you need. So when you counter
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that you need, you really need
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way in the workforce. And I
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people choose to follow you, No, not have to follow you. You
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don't get a paycheck exchange. You
get their wants, their heart. They're
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going to give you the best that
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have access to their want, all
you're going to get is a warm body
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there to collect the paycheck, put
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so good, Kimberly, if you
don't mind, I want to represence what
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you said before. I've never heard
that acronym, by the way, and
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important to be able to really give
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how we do our work today,
especially if you contrast that to say,
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fifteen twenty years ago. And keep
in mind that this show is listened to
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across the globe, so there are
various countries and various developments that hear this
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show, and many of them are
you know, may still be in that
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command and control and moving away from
it. So this is fascinating, right,
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So tell us again about that,
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Where are things going to go or
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It's the VUKA v u c A
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that stands for volatile, uncertain,
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so important to be able to situate
why well, why a new way of
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leading is so important? Okay,
So before we get into really you know
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what you mean by brave, I
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is you talk about the importance of
unlocking the wanton followers. And I heard
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you talk about, you know,
that whole being able to harness the positive
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emotional energy from the workplace as opposed
to coming from a place of fear and
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an uncertainty. And you know,
I appreciate the way you position that,
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Kimberly, because you're right, when
we go into a place of fear,
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we generally kind of cower into the
corner usually, right, that's how right?
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How many of us will respond when
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Alice, have I ever shared with
you? There's a great metaphor that Dan
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and Chip Heaths used in their book
Switch No it's hard. Yeah, it's
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a fantastic it's a fantastic metaphor.
And so in their books, which they
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compare our emotions to that of a
three ton elephant, right, and they
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compare our logic to the little guy
who's perched on top of the elephant,
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you know, the elephant writer.
Now, when the elephant and the elephant
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writer want to go in the same
direction, everything is cool, right,
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all right? So got it?
What happens when the elephant wants to go
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in a different direction than the writer? Who's going to win? I think
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the elephant's kind of win the elephant
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every time. And the funny thing
is is it in our workplace we say,
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you know, leave your emotions at
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emotions here. But the truth is
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work, the emotion and the workforce, it's like the elephant, it's going
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to run right over you, it's
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the big problem if you don't deal
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not suggesting that it's all about the
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alignment between our emotions and our Logy's
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the fact that this is what's showing
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are in a meeting and they're feeling
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their jobs, and this is and
how does that manifest? Oh my gosh,
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home for people. So when we're
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we're really we're very present to the
importance and the profundity of emotions in the
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workplace. Right, They're certainly not
to be ignored. There to be understood
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and presence in a way that it
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results that you want. But first
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actually are. So they're oftentimes hanging
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know, we don't really know about
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to really bring them into the foreground
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them, call them, recognize them
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then be able to address them whether
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emotional piece in the workplace. And
I remember the days when people used to
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say, it's not it's not personal, it's just business. Get past it.
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Yeah, remember that well? And
truly, how can you how can
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you connect to the want of others
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on with them emotionally exactly? Really
hand well, and especially as leaders,
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right, because you talked about catalyzing
results through positive emotions. Okay, yeah,
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that's right. Okay, Well then
along those lines speaking of emotions,
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you mean by brave? Well,
okay, so let me first say what
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the dictionary means by brave, because
you're totally different from what I think of
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brave as right, And you wonder
at least why you think of when you
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go into a situation where you need
to put yourself out there when you need
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to do something scary, you need
to give a presentation or have a really
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tough conversation with someone. Why you
feel that kind of I want to throw
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up feeling? You know, I
need to be brave here. I need
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to be brave here. But it
doesn't feel like a good thing, right.
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Your experience of I need to be
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really icky in your stomach, right, And so I was like, why
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is that? And so I actually
looked it up in the dictionary and they
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define brave is ready to face fear
and endure danger or pain. Oh my
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gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, really, who gets excited
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about that? I want to get
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danger and pain. I can't wait
for that, right, sign me up.
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It's it's a way of looking at
it that is going to completely disempower
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you. Right. So I knew
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brave, that it would stop me
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base and endure danger or pain anymore
than anybody else does. Right, So
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I knew I needed to reframe it
for myself. And so the way I
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define brave is your best, most
authentic and powerful self. And it's a
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lot more complex than it sounds,
you know, right at first, because
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when you know, I think about
when I think about my best self,
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right, my best self is not
someone who's disrespectful or unkind. My best
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self is someone who's blaming other or
showing contempt. My best self is more
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patient, more curious, caring,
positive, constructive, probably articulate, definitely
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more hopeful than otherwise. Right.
If brave is anchored in your best self,
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it forces you to take responsibility for
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what you're saying, So go ahead
to hear only something else ahead? Yeah,
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no, no, no, go
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I was going to put that into
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getting on the ERA with you,
finished a coaching call with one of one
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of our clients. And she's really
also she's she is an executive leader,
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and she wants to continue developing her
persona, her message, and she really
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understands the importance of being able to
develop that inspirational, motivational aspect of who
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she is a leader, to be
able to bring people along and make them
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want to come with her on the
journey. And so When I hear you
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talk about this whole notion of brave
leadership, what I hear is like a
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reaching through to be able to grab
people, to grab them along the journey
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with you. That's what I hear
when you talk. Because connecting to their
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want is a byproduct. Right If
I can bring my brave self, my
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best, most authentic and powerful self, the byproduct of that is they want
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to follow. The byproduct of that
is they want to engage, they want
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to give their best, they want
to be a part of whatever it is
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undoing, They want to listen.
Right, But it's a byproduct. You
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can go, you go after I
want people to listen to me, and
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you're not going to show but a
way that they actually want to listen to
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you, right right, But if
you show up as your best, most
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authentic and powerful self, the byproduct
is that they will want to listen to
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you. Mm hmm. And isn't
it amazing? And here's what's really great
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about that? And perfect time because
we're just about to go for a break
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here. But what's great about that, Kimberly, is that when I think
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about like the best times when I've
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I wanted them to come with me. I know they're with me by how
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they're looking at me. Right,
there's an energy exchange that happens, right,
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the byproduct piece of that, then
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But that connection of the eyeballs and
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think is what you're talking about.
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When you said the heart beat,
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lives in the heart. I mean, you can logic your way out of
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what a perfect way to take us
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the author of the soon to be
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She joined us today from Austin,
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So as we continue this conversation,
Miss Kimberly, I think it probably
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is not a bad idea for us
to talk about authenticity and for those listeners
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that maybe think they know what that
means, I want to get them on
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the same page as what you want
it to be. What do you mean
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by authenticity? Yeah, well,
I find just signing brave is your best,
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most authentic and powerful self. I
guess we probably should talk about what
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it means to be authentic, because
authenticity is one of those words that gets
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bandied about so much that we love. What does that mean, right.
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I mean if you anybody who's been
on Facebook on any day of the week
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could look at can find a post
that says be authentic, be yourself,
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doesn't matter what anybody thinks. And
that's all great and good, except for
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in the framework of leadership and influence
it doesn't work. So I actually steal
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my definition of authenticity from a guy
named Bill George. And mister George used
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to be the CEO from the Tronic
and Elli's on the Harvard works for the
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Harvard Business School for the School of
Management, and he wrote a book called
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Authentic Leadership, so he gets to
be the guru of authentic leadership. He
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also wrote True North, which is
his most recent book, and it's got
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a lot of acclaim. But mister
George's definition of authenticity is are you genuine
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worthy of trust, reliance and belief? And what makes that so complex is
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that you don't get to decide.
You don't get to decide if you're genuine,
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worthy of trust, reliance and belief. The people around you get to
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decide. Do they experience you this? Do your listeners experience you as worthy
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of belief? Does your boss experience
you as believable? As genuine You don't
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get to decide that other people get
to decide. And that makes it really,
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really complex, because what your boss
is going to need from you to
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experience you as worthy of trust is
going to be very different than something your
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colleagues might need from you, or
what your client is going to need from
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you. Yeah, and so it
doesn't mean, now, let me be
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very clear about this. It doesn't
mean you become this chameleon kind of person
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and I'll be whatever you want me
to be and whatever you want me to
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be. No, what it means
is that you have to have a healthy
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respect for the fact that every human
being you come in contact with is going
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to have a different set of needs, and so for them to experience you
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as genuine worthy of trust, reliance
and belief, you have to be able
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to connect to those needs. And
what I'm getting from that, Miss Kimberly,
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you tell me if I've got this
right. Based because you're the one
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that knows this better and you've been
up to your eyeballs really studying this and
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thinking about how to talk about it. It seems to me that since you're
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trying to appeal across to all that
different that those sets of needs. What
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you're really probably doing, if you're
really active from a place of authenticity,
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is you're activating the parts of yourself
that speak to those things, if you
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can absolutely absolutely Yeah. So for
example, Elise, I tend to be
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a pretty gregarious person. I'm,
you know, pretty bubbly and and vivacious,
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some people might describe me. But
when I go to speak to let's
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say, I'm going to speak to
a group of bankers, I've really kind
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of got to dial myself back a
little bit. And that doesn't mean I'm
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changing who I am, but that
means if I go in there and hey,
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hi, you doing, They're not
going to be able to hear me.
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And if my job is to connect
to their want so they can learn
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what I have to share and benefit
from the tools I have to offer,
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then I cannot I cannot lose sight
of the fact that what they need from
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me is to show up in a
way that is not going to be so
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foreign for them. Mm hmmm m. And then then as we develop our
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relationship, I get more latitude to
to let myself cut myself loose a little
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bit, let your hair down,
if you will, uh huh yeah.
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Yeah. But I've already established trust
and rapport, then they've already experienced me
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as genuine worthy of trust, reliance
and beliefs. M But I haven't.
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I have to go in very mindful
what do these people need from me?
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What does this person need for me? What does this person need for me
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to experience me as genuine worthy tress, reliance and belief. And what that
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requires is that at every minute,
you're always having to pay attention to the
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impact that you're having on other people. It empathy and action. Yeah,
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being very present to that is really
a true talent, a true skill to
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be able to be really present to
that in the moment right. It can
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be so hard to do to a
last It is something that it takes constant
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mindfulness and sometimes, you know,
sometimes I'll miss it and I won't realize
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that I've missed it. But my
focus of attention has to be so clear
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that I want to connect to that. Mm hmmmmm. I totally got that.
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And of course we all miss that
sometimes. But to the extent that
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we can be is mindful and conscious
as we can going into these situations right,
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the better serve that we are right
right absolutely, And what's so great
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about that definition is I think it
helps with everything. It becomes a filter
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for preparation. So, how do
you prepare for a one on one with
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your boss so he will experience you
or she will experience you this genuine really
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you trust reliance and belief? How
do you prepare for a shareholder meeting so
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they experience you as genuine worthy you
trust, reliance and belief? How do
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you dress so they experience you as
worthy of trust? What kind of language
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do you use when you when you're
in that situation? It becomes a filter
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for everything, And I like it
so much better than categorizing the situational leadership
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forces you. I'm not going to
put my visionary hat on I am,
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I'm going to put my coaching hat
on. This requires you, It requires
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you to exercise all of those parts
of yourself based on what other people need.
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Mm hmmmm hm. I so get
that, And that is so powerful
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to presence that kimberly before we actually
get into brave. So I love that.
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So anything else on authenticity before we
actually dive into the barriers to brave.
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No, I think I think that
we've I think that we've given given
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them enough to be dangerous Okay,
good, that's what we want. We
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want our listeners to be dangerous to
stuff is good. Go forth and be
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dangerous with this stuff. Yeah,
okay, Well I thought it was really
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important, you know, you and
I were chatting on the break just to
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make sure that we could really position
the authenticity piece of this, because it's
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part of what you have in your
in your definition of brave. So you
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know, you you there's a there's
a whole section about, you know,
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barriers to brave in your book,
and I want to be able to present
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this for our listeners about what's the
kind of stuff that gets in the way
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of us being brave. So let's
talk a bit about that that section there.
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What gets in the way? Kimberly, Yeah, I think so the
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biggest thing that gets in the way
is how we see the world, our
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focus of attention, how we see
ourselves and how we see the world.
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What are we paying attention to?
Okay, so how you see yourself.
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So our focus will trigger our feelings, which will trigger our behaviors. So
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if you're focused on being afraid,
if you're focused on what people might think,
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you focus on people, you might
make a mistake or you might look
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stupid, right, The feelings that
are going to come up for you are
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going to be a lot lot of
anxiety. You're going to you're going to
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you're going to feel a lot of
fear. What's going to happen, then,
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is your the amygdala in your brain, the part of your brain and
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the frontal cortex that is in charge
for all emotion Management's going to send all
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of this cortisol, the stress hormone
right through your body. And so you're
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going to start experiencing your stomach's going
to clench, and your hands might sweat,
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and your muscles might tense up,
and your breast might your breathing might
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get short, right, So you'll
have a physiological reaction to it as well.
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And when you have this physiological reaction, then then then that will inform
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how you show up in the world, right, and it will inform the
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actions that you take. So when
we feel these things physiologically, we'll start
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to do things to protect ourselves or
or well we'll go into the fight or
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flight mode, or well we'll want
to push so we try to overcome those
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feelings, but it will affect the
way we behave in the world. So
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our focus triggers are behaviors, which
triggers our focus. Triggers are feelings,
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which triggers are behaviors. Well,
let me your results. Yeah, that's
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exactly right, gotcha. Example.
So, as you know, Elice,
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I moved from Seattle to Dallas.
Gosh, I want to say it was
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about Beto over ten years ago.
So I moved from Seattle to Dallas ten
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years ago. Seattle Dallas very very
different cities, as you know, because
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you've lived in both cities, right, Yes, I have. When I
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first moved to Dallas. Nothing personal
my friends in Dallas, but I hated
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Dallas. I hated Dallas for like
two solid years because I had I decided
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very very early on that I don't
belong in Dallas, right, so I
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would I would go to the grocery
store. Now, Seattle is like this
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really casual culture. You could wear
fleas to a five star restaurant, right,
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you go to the grocery store.
In Dallas, people are wearing you
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know, three and child four and
chields and bling to the grocery store.
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Right, I got whoa what with
that? And in Dallas people talk to
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each other in the in line at
Starbucks. And Seattle we all kept very
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much to ourselves, right, and
and Dallas was flat and seattle and mountains
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and everything I saw I would compare
and trast and compare and contrast. Dallas
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is this, Seattle is that?
And I reconfirmed I don't belong in Dallas,
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right, and telling myself I don't
belong in Dallas. Everything I saw,
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every situation I found myself in reconfirmed
that, because that's where my focus
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of attention was that I was looking
for reasons to prove myself right that I
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don't belong in Dallas. Well,
like two years into living in Dallas,
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and I have no recollection of what
happened, but there was some kind of
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triggering event in my life two years
later that all of a sudden, I
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went, Oh, my gosh,
I love Dallas. Dallas is the best
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place on the planet. And I
it was. It was hilarious. I
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would go for these long walks on
Swiss Avenue and look at the live oak
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trees and think, these are the
most gorgeous trees ever. And I would
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look at the sunshine and sunshine every
day. This is a miracle. And
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everybody is so kind and warm and
friendly. I just loved the people of
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Dallas. And I remember so distinctly
flying into Dallas after doing the business trip,
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and I landed in the airport and
everyone looked so dressed up and so
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nice, and I thought, the
people in Dallas take such good care of
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themselves. Look that everyone. But
I mean, it's hilarious beliefs, because
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the thing is, Dallas never changed, got it right, Dallas was always
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Dallas. The only thing that changed
was the way I looked at it,
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yes, ma'am, m hm right. And so when the way I looked
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at it changed, the way I
showed up in this situations changed, so
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that I met all of these wonderful
people. I started engaging in the world,
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because who's going to engage if you
believe that you don't along there?
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That's it, right, right?
That was a beautiful illustration, kimber La,
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Do you really really situated that so
that I think people can understand that
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it's all about how we see things. It's all about how we see things.
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Now, then you map that to
personal power, right, if you
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believe something about yourself. Now,
our beliefs about ourselves come from so many
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different things. They come from our
experiences and our histories. Our brains start
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making meaning of what people say to
us half the time is not making the
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right meaning. You know, we're
inferring things from comments. We're making decisions
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about ourselves. Right, Like when
I was a little girl, I had
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very early on and I won't go
into the whole story about it, but
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very early on, I had decided
that I was an athletics. Yeah,
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I'm like, well, I'm just
not athletics. And so when it came
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to so, you know, elementary
school, all the other kids would be
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playing kickball on the playground and I'd
kind of hang in the back because of
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course I wasn't athletic, right,
And then when I went off to college
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and then we had to take dance
classes for my theater degree, I would
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be the one in the back trying
to not be noticed because you know,
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I wasn't athletic, and I didn't
want people to know I'm not athletics.
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And I just never got involved in
anything that was that would require anything any
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athleticism at all, because I of
course wasn't athletics. And then about gosh,
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when I was. It wasn't until
I was thirty seven years old when
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I when I went to this I
heard the speaker talk about the three day
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Breast Cancer Walk, and I got
so inspired by what they were doing that
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I registered to do this three day
walk. And when you do a three
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day sixty mile walk, you have
to train, and you have to train
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really hard for this. You know
this because you do long distance running in
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these amazing events, But you have
to train. And I had never trained
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for anything in my life. Right, And as I'm on, you know,
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day two of this this sixty mile
walk, and I've you know,
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I've walked nineteen miles that day and
then where they've got these huge hills and
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the heat, and I was walking
with like twenty five one hundred women,
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many of them who had been through
chemo or cancer survivors, some of them
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had you know, had just had
just quit chemo, none of them complaining,
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you know, And it pushed me
to a level that I had never
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pushed myself before. And when I
crossed that finish line after walking sixty miles
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for the first time in my life, I thought, well, maybe I'm
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athletic after all, or not I
might not be athletic, but it was
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no longer my truth, right,
because we can have into what you decide
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about yourself, right, this is
what's possible for me, this is who
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I am. And when you think
about how that affects the way you show
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up in the world, it changes
everything. Yes, it does. I
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know that very well because of the
work that we do it Insignium, because
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it's so much about, you know, the mindset that we show up,
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we allow ourselves to show up with
and being present and cognizant to what is
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that right, because half the battle
is being aware of what is that that
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we're telling ourselves. Absolutely, absolutely, So these are the things I find
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to be the biggest barriers to brave. It's the way we look at,
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the way we focus our attention.
So we're focusing our attention on these these
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decisions we've made about ourselves and these
decisions we've made about other people and the
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world and how we fit in.
Then we're going to live into that and
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it's going to affect the way we
interact with other people, is going to
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affect what's possible for us, because
we won't put ourselves out there in a
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way that is going to be anything
different than what we've decided. Kimberly,
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that is a perfect way for us
to let our listeners sit and germinate while
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we go on and break here,
because what I want them to get is
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I want them to get really clear
about being able to have access. I
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want them to see that you've given
them access to something for themselves. So
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hold the thoughts, listeners, take
a little bit of time to think about
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that while we go on break.
I'm Alice Cortez, your host. We've
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been on the air with Kimberly Davis, who was the founder of on Stage
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Leadership, who also gave a ted
X talk called what it Means to Be
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Brave. She's the author of Brave
Leadership Unleast You're most confident, authentic and
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powerful self to get the results you
need, which is endorsed by Dan Pink.
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After the break, we're going to
get more into how we can actually
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get to be more brave developing our
brave Stay with us Follow us on Twitter
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for more great ideas. At Voice
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and engagement and development catalyst. She
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engagement workshops and can bring her expertise
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To learn more or to invite Elise
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get your employees working on purpose.
We all have unique experiences and outlooks when
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it comes to leadership and team building, Yet sometimes we clash even when trying
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at Elisecortes dot com. Now back
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with us, and welcome back to
Working on Purpose if you're just tuning in.
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My guest is Kimberly Davis, who
is an expert on authentic leadership and
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shares her inspirational message of personal power, responsibility, and impact with organizations across
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the country. She also teaches leadership
programs worldwide, including her program called On
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Stage Leadership, which runs in New
York City and Dallas. She is the
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author of the soon to be released
book called Brave Leadership. Unleash your most
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confident, authentic and powerful self to
get the results you need. And by
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the way, that comes out on
January sixteenth, twenty eighteenth. You can
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pre order it on Amazon dot Com
now. And Miss Kimberly joins us today
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from Austin, Texas. I'm your
host elis Cortes. Okay, so Kimberly.
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In the beginning, we talked about
yes, jesuys, what what do
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you want me to talk about?
So well, I am too say this
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is just really good stuff. So
we talked in the beginning about you know,
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why is leadership important? What's what
does brave mean? We talked about
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what gets in the way of brave. For this last segment, I want
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I want us to get to So
how do we get to brave? What
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do we do? Yeah? Well, okay, so let me back up
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just a second. Release. You
know how when I talked about uh,
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I did theater for years, right
yep. And what I what I learned
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in the theater is that when an
actor can get really crystal clear on this
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is this is what drives me,
this is this is what I stand for,
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and then they can focus all of
their attention instead of on the audience,
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instead of trying to these selfs,
instead of trying to get a good
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review instead of what people think about
them. If they can take their minds
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off of that and instead focus all
of their attention on having some kind of
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impact on someone or something on the
stage with them, what it does is
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it automatically refocuses their brain, so
it overrides their amygdala, that part in
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your bod, that part in your
brain that's designed to keep you safe.
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Right, our migdala is the center
for emotion management, and it is its
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job is to make sure we survive. So anytime it senses risk, it's
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going to send those those physical sensations
through your body, which is going to
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have you do weird things and show
up different, show up strangely in life,
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and protect yourself and not be as
powerful as you can be. But
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what happens is if you can focus
your attention on action to achieve impact,
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it will override your amigdala, so
you don't experience any of those same sensations,
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that same sense, that vulnerability that
you feel. You don't experience that
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you're completely focused on taking action to
achieve purpose. It's connected to who you
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are internally. So a focus on
action to have an impact is what allows
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us to be brave, a focus
on action out to take to impact someone
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or something outside ourselves. Mm hmm, Kimberly, you know what you're reminding
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me of? Can I just say
this since? Do you tell me if
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I've got the right application to what
you just said? There? So I
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have the wonderful ability to get to
go out and speak to various audiences.
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And I love to speak to women, especially about leadership and really being their
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true best selves and working on purpose
and through their passions. I love doing
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that. And of course there are
occasions when I get up a warning to
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go give one of those speeches,
and I don't feel fantastic, I don't
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feel brave, I don't feel like
I'm you know all that I want to
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be able to deliver a message like
that. So I got to get myself
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there right so I can deliver something
that will be useful to these women.
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And so what I tend to do
and I prepare for that and I get
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myself I work on that place of
intention is I get myself into the place
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of doesn't matter where I'm at,
how I feel. What do I want
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to give these women today? What
can I do that will actually that's perfect
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Okay, Okay, okay, sample, yes, because what you're doing is
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you're harnessing your attention m hm,
which helps you override your amingala. Right.
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So now when you're in space with
them, you can show up more
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powerfully because your focus of attention is
completely on what am I giving to them
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is active and connected to who you
are internally inherently. Okay, So this
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what I think, because I have
obviously read some of your book, and
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I think what this is connecting to
is you've got a chapter in there called
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action from the Insight out. Is
this part of what you're drawing from?
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Yeah? Absolutely. So. One
of the ways we get to what drives
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us and what the language I use
around that is your super objective. What's
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the effect you want to have?
What's your super objective? Okay, yeah,
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I remember that you're super objective.
Yeah. One of the ways we
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get to the super objective it is
first to kind of unearth what are your
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beliefs and values and strengths and all
of that, because your super objective encompasses
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all of those things, right,
And I don't know if you remember,
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at least a few years ago,
there was a lot of talk out there
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about leadership philosophy, and people are
talking about what's your leadership philosophy, And
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leadership philosophy is largely your belief it's
and so an example of leadership philosophy would
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be I believe in respect and dignity
for all people, right, Okay,
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And that's a lovely thing to believe. Yeah, but you can believe that
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and believe that and believe that and
believe that, but it's not going to
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change anything. Right. Whereas a
super objective lives in action, you can't
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achieve a super objective from the sidelines. So if you were going to translate
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that into super objective language, you
might say, I champion respecting dignity for
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all people. Right, You cannot
champion from the sidelines. To champion is
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going to require you to take action. It's to champion, it's going to
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require you to stand up for someone
you believe is being treated disrespectfully. Right.
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If to champion respecting dignity is going
to force you to find something to
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respect about people you may not like
very much, which can be really hard
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to do. Right, Right,
to champion respecting dignity for all people is
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going to require you to create conversation
and stir things up, and it's going
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to require action. And the action
is going to require is not always going
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to be easy action. It's going
to hold your feet to the fire because
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if you are truly a champion for
respecting dignity for all people, you have
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to you have to say, well, what what action can I take in
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this situation to do that? What
can I what can I do in this
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conversation to champion respecting dignity? What
can I do on this call to champion
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respecting dignity? What can I do
in this needing to champion respecting dignity for
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all people? Because if that's who
you truly are, then it should show
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up in every situation you face.
And then when you don't do that,
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because guess what, you're human,
you're going to you're going to miss the
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mark more times than you're going to
hit it. Probably, Then if you've
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got that clarity of thought, that
clarity is focused. What do I stand
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for? I stand for championing respect
and dignity for all people? Right?
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Did I do it in this in
this conversation? Yes? Or no?
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No? Okay? What action can
I take to get myself closer? So
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I self as the person that I
know I truly am and want to be.
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How do I clean it up?
It's just so yummy? It is
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so yummy. Now along those lines, we're getting close to the finish er.
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If you don't mind, what I'd
love to do because I know there's
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listeners who are listening to this and
they're they're getting the concepts, and I
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know they're getting inspired by it.
But I also want to be able to
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give those listeners who want to walk
away with like a list or something like,
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you know, how can I put
this to work tomorrow? You have
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a chapter in your book that gets
to six steps to prepare for impact.
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Some of those things you've already talked
about, you've already mentioned some of them.
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But for the benefit of listeners who
want to walk away with do these
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things that'll make a difference, would
you just quickly describe those six steps?
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Yeah? Absolutely, so. The
first thing you always always want to do
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is to focus your attention. So
you want to get clear on what do
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the people need from you to experience
you is genuine worthy of trust, reliance
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and belief, right based on their
needs, not your agenda? Right?
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What do they need from you?
And then and then inherent in that is
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you. Also part of focusing your
attention is getting clear what's the impact you
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want to have? Yep, So
what do they need from you to experience
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you with genuine where your trust,
alliance and belief? What's the impact you
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want to have. If you can
focus your attention on that and make sure
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your actions are in alignment with that, the byproduct is you will connect to
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their wants m m okay, right. They'll want to participate, they'll want
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to listen, they want to follow, they want to be a part of
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what you're doing. The next thing
you need to make sure you're doing is
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you want to prepare authentically for that
experience. Right, So what do they
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need from you to experience you as
genuine, worthy your trust, reliance,
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and belief. How do you prepare
for that? You want to make sure
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that that if you're meeting with your
boss, you've prepared in a way that
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she will experience you as worthy of
trust. Got it? You know what
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information? What data? What?
Stories? What? What? What?
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What? What kind of preparation do
you need to do for that situation?
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So using that definition of authenticity to
help you prepare and the next thing you
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want to do is you really want
to come in as your best self,
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so you want to make sure you
breathe and remove all tensions. So here's
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a really interesting thing, at least
you know. It's when when we when
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we get nervous or anxious or overwhelmed
or stressed, our breathing gets naturally more
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and more shallow, so we start
uh cutting off our breaths. And what's
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really interesting about that is that our
brains need oxygen to function, yes,
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And so people think, oh,
yeah, you don't need to talk to
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me about breathing. I've got the
breathing thing down. Yet at the same
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time, when we're stressed, when
we're overwhelmed, when we're anxious, we
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we naturally do that as a survival
mechanism. Okay, So the very first
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thing you want to do, truly
in any situation space, especially if the
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stakes are high, is to just
ground yourself and breathe. Okay, And
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then the next thing you want to
do is to remove all tension, because
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tension blocks authentic expression. You can't
go into a situation if you're carrying a
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lot of tension. And we all
carry tension in different places in our bodies,
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so some of us carry tension in
our shoulders, some of us in
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our hands, most in our necks, some of us in our jaws.
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It's really important that you can name
where do I personally carry my tension,
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so you can release that tension before
you go in. You can roll your
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shoulders back, so you take a
deep breath, you ground yourself, you
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roll your shoulders until you release the
tension so you can go in and be
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physically physically where you need to be
in order to connect to the want of
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others. And then you need to
go in. And we talked about this
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earlier and the appsoletely present. When
when I say present, I mean you
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need to be so present that the
stakes are your your that the stakes are
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like your life is on the line. You want to connect us that your
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life is on the line. Because
what happens is we go in and we
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have our own agenda and we're not
paying attention to what other people need.
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What's going on with the other person? Have they heard what we've had to
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say, And we cannot connect to
the want of others if we don't,
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if we if we if if we're
not with them, they it's it's impossible.
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So I find it really interesting when
I teach executive presence, the very
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first thing I say is that presence
requires you to be present. And it's
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even in the definition of presence.
So people think presence is all about charisma.
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Presence is absolutely all about being absolutely
mentally in the here and now with
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the people you're with. And that
is one of the hardest things to do
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in the workplace today because there's so
much going on because of the luka environment.
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Right. Yeah, And then you
are so present that you're able to
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pay attention to impact. So step
number five is pay attention to impact.
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You will if you go in and
you say, what is the impact I
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want to have. I want to
champion respect and dignity for our people.
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Well, did I have that impact? Yes or no? Got it?
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Yeah, Because if you're not paying
attention to impact, you won't be able
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to course correct Kimberly, we're almost
out of time, and I'll make sure
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we can actually announce where to find
this. So the last one I know
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is create the last one to create
rituals. Just make sure you're putting things
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in place to keep you mindful of
the things you need to do to bring
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your best Let's authentic and powerful self
to the table and that's a perfect way
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actually right there for us to finish. I want to just let you be
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able to take that breath and take
your bow and let me thank you for
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being on the show and sharing your
passion, your wisdom what you can teach
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the listeners across the globe about brave
leadership. Kimberly Davis, thank you for
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joining me today. I'm working on
purpose. Thank you, Lise. This
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was a great fun. It was
great fun, always great fun. Okay,
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so listeners, remember I mentioned this
earlier. If you want to get
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a copy of her book, Brave
Leadership, it comes out January sixteenth,
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but you can pre order today on
Amazon dot com. If you want to
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learn more about Kimberly Davis and her
leadership courses or her seem to be released
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book, visit her website. It's
onstage leadership dot com. Now. Next
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week, we will be on the
air with the founder and fireball of a
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Coola project. Her name is Brittany
Merrill Underwood. We'll be talking about the
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work she and her team are doing
to empower women across the globe to transform
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families by addressing poverty through her nonprofit
organization based Terran Dallas. She was alerted
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to me by one of my students
at Southern Memphis University. When I talked
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about purpose and passion in the classrooms, I kicked it off. One of
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the students put her hand up in
the back. She said, Oh,
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I've got someone you've got to talk
with. So that is who I'll be
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sharing with you on the show next
week. So join us in remember that
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workers won through our lives, So
let's work on Purpose. We hope you've
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enjoyed this week's program. Be sure
to tune into Working on Purpose, featuring
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your host Elise Cortes, every Wednesday
at six pm Eastern Time three pm Pacific
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Time on the Voice America Empowerment Channel. This week, find your life's purpose
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at work.
