Integrating Passion with Purpose: A Recipe to Live Your 2.0

Have you ever felt an irresistible nudge encouraging you to step outside of your comfort zone? According to Wei-Li Shao, more often than not, this nudge isn’t a question, but rather an answer. After spending 18 years in the pharma industry and...
Have you ever felt an irresistible nudge encouraging you to step outside of your comfort zone? According to Wei-Li Shao, more often than not, this nudge isn’t a question, but rather an answer. After spending 18 years in the pharma industry and experiencing a severe health scare, Wei-Li decided to take the leap and pursue what he calls his “2.0”. In this episode, we hear Wei-Li’s story in depth -- highlighting the moment he learned of a sudden brain tumor, and the journey it took for him to heal and finally feel a sense of “home” after switching industries to work at Omada Health. While many of us wait for something to force us outside of our comfort zone, Wei-Li encourages us to take our nudges seriously and take action through a series of bite-sized steps. Be prepared to be inspired, deeply moved, a bit shaken off your feet.
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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,
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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.
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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortez. In our program,
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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and
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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five, it's working
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on Purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortez. Welcome back to
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the Working on perkashow. Thanks for
tuning in again this week. I'm your
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host, Elise Cortez. Joining you
live from Dallas, Texas, which is
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home base for me. If you've
been tuning in for a while, then
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you know this program is all about
helping people create more meaningful and purposeful lives
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and equipping leaders insight organizations to cultivate
meaning and purpose that elicits passion inspired contribution,
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innovation, and persevering performance. I
talk with my guests to draw on
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their expertise and share my own experience
speaking and developing workforces across the globe.
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at any rate. I'm glad we're
connected, and thanks for listening. Now
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onto this week's program with us today
is Wailee Shall. He is the chief
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commercial officer of Amada Health, a
digital a digital care program that empowers people
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to achieve their health goals through sustainable
lifestyle change. Wale is the author of
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Annie the Tall Girl, at children's
book on diversity and inclusion. He is
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also a Breen tumor survivor thriver,
and is authoring a personal memoir, Gifts
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of Disruption, that chronicles his life
changing journey from diagnosis to recovery to transformation.
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He joins it today from California,
Waiale, welcome to Working on Purpose.
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Well, thank you very much at
least for having me. You're so
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welcome and I'm so glad we've crossed
pass and we need to give us a
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nice shout out and thank you to
our mutual French smail John. She has
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been listening to my show for quite
a while and she alerted me to your
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Live your two point h article.
You push it on LinkedIn, and when
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I read it, I went,
absolutely, You're so right, Samantha's perfect.
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So there's a lot to share and
pull out of your story and so
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many learnings. But if we can't
just to get our listeners really into your
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world and why I wanted you to
be on the show, let's talk about
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your story and what led you to
write that article in the first place.
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Yeah, So thanks the Lise again
for having me and shout out to Samantha
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our mutual colleague and put us in
toash with each other. I certainly am
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looking forward to this session. You
know, the LinkedIn article that I published
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Live Your two point zero was really
a culmination of a series of events that
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occurred over a really, really long
time, and certainly we can get in
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some detail, but the high level
of it essentially was you know, I
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have been for the last couple of
decades up until just recently as a leader
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and executive within the bio farms sudical
industry, and boy, what an absolute
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incredible journey that was is It's taken
me to multiple continents. I've worked in
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four different countries, led small businesses, you know, three million dollars all
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the way up to large businesses thirty
billion or three billion dollars, and have
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had just an incredible journey along the
way with me and my wife and my
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two daughters. But like a lot
of people I've come to find out,
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Elise, is that you know,
when you do something for a really,
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really long time, and as you
learn things and experience new things, oftentimes
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your compass and life changes and you
start asking yourself, Hey, I've been
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on this trajectory. I love it, I love the work, but at
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the end of the day, is
it something or is this the thing that
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I'm actually meant to do? Is
this the purpose I have? Is this
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what I was actually built for?
And I started asking myself that question several
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years ago and kept on suppressing it, to be honest with you, Elise,
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and it just grew and grew and
grew to the point where I really
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just couldn't ignore it anymore. Became
that weight in, that kind of stone
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in the pit of my stomach that
made me realize that, you know,
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it's really not a question, it's
a statement disguise as a question that really
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really made me start thinking about making
a significant change in my life, in
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my life direction centered around my work
to what brings me here today. Certainly
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there are tons of different things,
a couple of important things that were involved
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in that pivot, but that's kind
of the background that helped me make the
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change, or drove me to make
the change, and also drove me to
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author that LinkedIn article called live your
two point zero Okay, fantastic. Two
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things if I can respond to that. First, I want a presence for
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our listeners that what you're describing,
and you call it in your article that
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irresistible tug or an itch, and
I know that extremely well for myself.
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It isn't always convenient to pay attention
and to that. So I applaud you
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for eventually paying attention to that.
Thank you for that and being an example
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for all of us. That's the
first thing. The second thing is,
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somewhere along that journey, you were
diagnosed with a brain tumor. I think
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it was about two and a half
years ago, and you said that this
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experience and how you chose to respond
it, respond to it really ushered in
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this whole new person part of your
version two point zero. What happened.
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Yeah, You're exactly right, Elise. And you know, I've got a
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lot of friends and colleagues and people
that I know well some people I don't
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know well at all that they come
up to me say, wey Lee,
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you know the pivot that you've made
kind of mid career. Boy, it
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takes guts and courage and things like
that. In my overwhelming all the time
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response is actually, I had a
gift and it was not born out of
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strength, but born out of rather. I just had to do something and
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you referenced it. So about two
and a half years ago, I was
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diagnosed with a brain tumor or about
almost the size of my fist. It
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was huge. And one day at
a work function, I was about to
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go deliver a keynote speech and I
was preparing, you know, working on
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my speaker notes, and I had
a seizure and I had never had a
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seizure before. Came out of absolutely
nowhere and then was taken to the emergency
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room and was just hit straight into
the in the gut proverbially speaking. When
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the doctor came in and said,
hey, listen, I've got some good
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news and bad news. The good
news is you're not having a stroke.
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The bad news is that you've got
a mass in your brain the size of
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almost orange. And that right there
started I think the massive transformation, at
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least that I would say is a
significant transformation for me. And luckily,
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you know, it's benign. I'm
fine. I made a full recovery.
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But when you're faced with kind of
something like that, that happens, not
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surprisingly you begin to question everything that
you're doing in life, and things come
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into a really simple focus, you
know, around family or friends, your
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loved ones. But most importantly,
that question that i'd been actually asking myself
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again disguised as a statement, as
you know, am I doing what I'm
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supposed to be doing work wise?
And is this what I'm meant to do?
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Really really provided kind of the rocket
fuel for me to realize that tomorrow
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is never a guarantee. And intellectually, I think we all know this,
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but I found out that, hey, listen, you know it's more than
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intellectual. There was a chance that
I wouldn't come out of it, okay.
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And so from that point in time
it provided me kind of with the
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match or the spark to really just
get off my butt and do something about
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kind of that passion or soulful belief
and compass change that led me to where
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I am today, And to be
honest with you, at least, I
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wish it wasn't kind of the catalyst
for my change, because I think that
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it doesn't require something that seismic,
But for me, that was an important
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part of it. Well, and
I appreciate that it was a very important
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catalyst. And I think I told
you when we spoke by phone that so
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often when I'm out speaking Willie,
I asked my audiences, first thing,
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have you really considered what will you
do with your one precious life? And
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I mean that in a serious inquiry. And now, especially for me,
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since both of my parents died in
January of this year, and I got
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to be part of both of those, and I gave both of the eulogies
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and helped and plan the ceremonies of
life celebrations. Really it's very probable for
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me, we really only get one
shot at this, and so I appreciate
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very much what you're saying about it
was a catalyst for you, and you
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and I both spoke about how we
would like it to be a little bit
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more accessible for other people than some
of the catalysts that we both had to
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go through to get to where we
are. But that was yours. No,
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you're absolutely right, and and I
think you know you're right. The
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difficulty is that sometimes, you know, we as individuals, we wait until
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there's a we lose our jobs and
then we got to do something drastic to
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recover, or you know, there's
a divorce, and that that requires a
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significant change in our life where we
need to become the true breadwinner and our
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families. And that forces people to
shake their lives and actually do something new
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or difference. And so there's a
number of pivot points and things that happen
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in people's lives, and a lot
of time when you talk to people and
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I've spoken to them about, hey, you know, are you happy,
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to say, oh, my god, incredibly happy, and then you ask
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them what actually got them there,
it's oftentimes a pivot point or transformative fork
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in the road that almost forces their
hand to make the change in their life
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that actually they've been thinking about for
days, years, weeks, months,
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decade, aids even in several years, certainly into my case, and it's
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a it's a bit of a shame, and I hope we get into this
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because you know, life is an
adventure and it's absolutely amazing to be how
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we make these decisions along our journeys. You know, in time and time
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again, I've been fascinated by that
by this because we're actually as humans hardwired
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not to take risk, especially as
we get older. You know, I
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oftentimes think about, Okay, in
the cave man daves, so you didn't
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dare leave the safety of your cave. Otherwise you take a few steps out
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and get snatched up by a man
eating dinosaur and then you're like, well,
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I'm certainly not going to do that
again. But when you've run out
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of food and your family might start, you take the risk to leave the
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cave and for a cave and forge
for food because the risk of staying outweighed
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the risk of leaving. But you
know, at least you and I both
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know that when you think about it, we don't need to succumb to this
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genetic forcing mechanism anymore because for most
of us, thankfully we don't live in
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the cave man days. In fact, we live in a world of abundance.
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And you know, to realize this
isn't the case for everyone, but
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for a lot of us when we
think about it, we have options,
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and the biggest challenge is taking the
leap. And so for me it was
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my brain tumor and kind of the
transformation healing I did after that. But
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what really really started the process was, you know, I asked myself one
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serious question, what was likely the
worst thing that could happen if I took
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that change or made that leap.
And the answer was, well, maybe
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I would just fail and go back
to doing what I was doing. And
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by the way, I did love
it at times, and it provided for
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my family really, really well,
and so then I realized the risk really
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wasn't all that high. And so
you know, we can take risks of
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today's or at least most of us
can, and when we can, the
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downside really isn't as big as we
think, and the upside is just infinitely
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larger than we can even conceive of. Completely agree and beautifully said for our
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listeners to really understand what you've been
through, if you can, we're going
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to take a break here in about
three minutes, but would you help us
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understand what you had to navigate to
get to come back from your brain tumor
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surgery or surgeries? I remember quite
a bit that you went through. So
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will you tell us what you had
to do to come back to come back
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to becoming a functioning person again.
Yeah, I'm more than happy to share.
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It was, as I mentioned,
kind of a soulful, life changing
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transformation. You know, I think
it helps for people to understand you.
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I prior to my diagnosis of having
a brain tumor, I was of great
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health. I ran, you know, I worked out all the time and
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just had a very energetic, youthful
lifestyle. And then when I went into
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to get my brain surgery, I
remember the day before I went into brain
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surgery, my brain my neurosurgeon brain
surgeons says two things to me. He
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says, the first one is I'm
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your case is far more complex than
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being awake during your brain surgery?
This is the day before I was supposed
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to go into brain surgery. And
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said, well, you know,
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a sensitive surgery, a little bit
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I don't damage quote unquote the valuable
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want you to be able to move
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to be able to speak when you
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and you've got decades ahead of you
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okay, I'll be awake. So
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incredibly graze anatomy, like you know, situation. I remember every bit of
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detail in it, Oh my gosh. But when I came out, I
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essentially was more or less immobile or
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my body. And it was quote
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the brain tumor that thankfully my neurosurgeon
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I was healthy and so it be
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multime months kind of recovery process.
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traumatic brain injury, maybe kind of
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to learn how to walk again.
I couldn't drink out of a cup,
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I couldn't use a knife and fork
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like a child. They had to
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road back. But through that entire
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boy, I have told a new
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on what it means to be alive
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second more on the things that are
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you spend fifty percent of your lifetime, which is at work. How do
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I make it the most impactful and
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know, my God given talents to
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proverbial couch and make the move.
Wow. We'll hear more about your journey
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here, but let's grab our first
break. I'm your host, Alice Cortez.
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We are on the air with WAILI
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Omada Health, a digital care program
that empowers people to achieve their health goals
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through sustainable lifestyle change. He's also
a brain tumor survivor and thriver, and
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is authoring a personal memoir, Gifts
of Disruption, that chronicles his life changing
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journey from diagnosis to recovery to transformation. He joins it today from San Francisco,
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California. We've been talking a bit
about his own journey of what got
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we're going to talk about what drives us
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to want to live. Two point
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delivers professional development, leadership and engagement
workshops and can bring her expertise to your
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organization. She will help ignite meaningful
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engagement, performance and retention. To
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speak to your organization, please visit
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She would welcome the opportunity to help
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with us, and welcome back to
Working on Purpose if you're just joining us.
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My guest is Wiley Show, the
chief commercial officer at Omada Health,
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a digital care program that empowers people
to achieve their health goes through sustainable lifestyle
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change. He's also a brain tumor
survivor thriver, and is authoring a personal
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memoir, Gifts of Disruption, that
chronicles his life changing journey from diagnosis to
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recovery to transformation. I'm your host, Elise Cortez. So before the break,
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we were talking about the remarkable journey
that you've been on that both you
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and I hope that people don't have
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change and start heading towards their two
point zero. But through your experiences,
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you've developed this idea that you call
live your two point zero. So for
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our listeners who've not yet read your
LinkedIn article, what do you mean by
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living our two point zero? Yeah, so living your two point zero is
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something I thought about to try to
describe what I think a lot of us
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want to do or actually do it
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So most of us live the same
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this version one doto. We get
promoted, we might relocate and join a
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new company in the same industry,
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and I call these changes these various
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version one point two, version one
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forth. You get the idea,
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note that there's really nothing wrong with
that if you love what you do and
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it fills your soul. But what
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least night, it's happened to you, it's happened to me, it's happened
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to so many of our listeners out
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stone in your gut that says,
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be doing. It rocks your world
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in terms of the change you need
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or the people around you. And
for me, I've been asking myself that
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same question for quite some time until
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It was a statement disguised as a
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to myself, this isn't what you
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with questions is that we procrastinate on
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time, that should be your first
clue that you might actually need to make
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a change. That change, that
pivot, is what I call Living your
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two point zero. So in the
article Live your two point zero I linked
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in profile. I published this a
few months ago. It's really, at
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its core about reinvention. It's about
a major pivot in the direction of your
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life, both professionally and personally,
because I believe the two are so intricately
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tied together. And it talks about
how I left my executive career in pharmaceuticals
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and where I let all those different
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missing something and I felt compelled to
reinvance and live my own two point zero.
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So that's really what living one's two
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reap with a lot of nuggets in
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your readers access to something in the
three points that you make, and I
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want us to bring those alive for
our listeners so that they can start to
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try them on for themselves. And
if you'll share, if you will,
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about three each of how those impacted
your life and your your journey, and
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I'll do the same for myself.
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inspiration. See more about that.
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and by the way, least,
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two as well, because I love
hearing about people's two point zero or three
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point zero. And sometimes I run
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zero, and I have such enormous
respect for them because I'm only on my
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two point zero, and so I
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I write about in Living your two
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tell tale signs that if these three
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think you might just be on the
verge of making a change that they think
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can change the arc of your life. The first one is about inspiration,
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and so inspiration is about that thing
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So in my and my job,
I loved what I was doing, leading
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these billion dollar businesses and helping people
with you know, kind of devastating illnesses.
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digital health. I thought there was
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something special about that in terms of
what digital technology could do for people living
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with chronic diseases or debilitating diseases.
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the Internet looking up things. I
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I found myself in my spare time
reading books about it. I found myself
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in my spare time to actually doing
my own writing about it. And that
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was my first indication that, you
know what, there's something going on here
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that I'm willing to spend the spare
energy that I have where most of us
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been spent on my family and my
work, but generating at energy in an
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area where you know, for a
lot of other things I wouldn't even bother,
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what technology could do for people and
hell could actually transform their lives and their
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health. I then became inspired to
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this actually may be the next horizon
and healthcare. So inspiration was the first
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one, but it's off in times
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into a hobby. The next one
I talk a lot about the second ingredient
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that I think leads to living your
two point zero is desperation. It's the
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opposite of inspiration. For me.
My desperation actually was related to my brain
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surgery and kind of what happened after
that. I realized that tomorrow would is
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not a guarantee, not only for
everyone else, but certainly for myself.
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actually make a change and just go for
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it and try it, that I
would have a profound sense of regret.
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That turned into a form of desperation
of as I can't live a life of
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profound regret, And that really started
to get to this negative feeling I had
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that just created the polar opposite energy
of inspiration that said, the longer I
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don't follow my inspiration, the worst
I'm going to feel about how I'm living
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my life, especially now that I've
been given a second chance. The third
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one actually is related to both,
but I call it vocation, and vocation
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is one of those magical things where
you understand the incredible talents you have some
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people call them you're God given talents, what you're great at that makes you
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you, combined with what you believe
in the truth and purpose that you have
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that guides you. And for me, that was taking all of that I've
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learned while I was in healthcare and
biopharmaceuticals leading those businesses combined with this purpose
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of being in healthcare helping people with
debilitating diseases, but carving out a new
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path, one in technology that allows
people to access care not just in their
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doctor's offices, but in between the
business they have to see their doctor,
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and I landed on finding that eventually
through the company with now called Omade of
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Health that specializes really in human center
of technology to help people with debilitating chronic
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diseases like diabetes, depression, or
even the prevention of diabetes and high blood
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pressure. To make profound changes in
the way that they lead their life in
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between doctor's business, and that happened
to fit straight right in the middle of
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that vocation circle between what I think
I'm good at in what I believe my
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life purposes. Oh my gosh,
weally a couple of things. First,
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for you listeners who are listening to
him, share this as eloquent as he
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is, that the process isn't usually
that that tidy. I really commend how
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beautifully you can narrate that way.
It's just stunning, very alluring way to
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be able to bring us into your
world. And secondly, you know that
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you that you made that journey and
telling your story. The reason I wanted
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you to tell your story is because
in doing so, it's hopes that the
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listeners out there get something for themselves
and they can start to move themselves further
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down their journey and listening to the
way you narrate yours and maybe in the
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way I narrate mine. And that's
why I really wanted to make sure we
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each did this. So my turn
at your turn, I can't wait to
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hear. This is actually why I
came on the show. Wanted goodness wow
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for a misguided soul. But okay, good, okay. So for me,
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the inspiration it started really when when
I started my PhD and did my
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research around around meaning. I wanted
to understand how people were experiencing meaning in
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their work because, to your point, we spend, as you say,
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about fifty percent of our lives at
it. So what does that mean to
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you and what does it mean to
your sense of self? So that was
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my PhD research, which I finished
and I thought, okay, that's good,
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I'm done. But to your point, it kept nagging at me.
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just on my own as a separate side
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project, went out and interviewed in
about two years, I guess a year
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and a half one hundred and fifteen
men and women between the ages of eighteen
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and eighty to learn across one of
different different professions to learn about this topic.
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I was just so curious about it
just wouldn't let me go. And
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that research yielded fifteen modes of engagement, ways that people uniquely experienced meaning in
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relation to what it meant to their
sense of self anywhere from you know,
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living their purpose down to existential crisis. And there was actually one that was
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transcendent connection, which is even above
purpose. But so that really got me
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into the space of wow, you
know, people experience work really differently,
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and there's this thing that people are
living their purpose. Wow, that's so
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cool. And I became very namory
with that whole idea, and I kept
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on my way. But to your
point, the niggle wasn't quite enough to
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kind of get me out of my
complacency. I had this body of research
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and then I started hosting the show
Working on Purpose for and a half years
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ago, but that didn't really that
was that was my inspiration, But the
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desperation didn't happen until two other inputs. The first major input was my divorce
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in twenty sixteen, and to your
point, that catapulted me in a place
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where I won. You know,
I was solely responsible for myself, and
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two, I had an open playing
field. I could reinvent myself anyway I
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wanted. And I knew before that
time, Wayley, that I was not
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living to the level that I wanted, and I hated myself for it,
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and I knew it I was copping
out. So the second piece of that
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desperation piece for me was I did
take a role in a company for a
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couple of years and I believe I
was supposed to come there, but I
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was also supposed to leave because I
got really present to I don't want at
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the end of my life to be
able to say I was a consultant for
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XYZ Company. I need to share
my message, what I think is important,
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what my truth is, what my
purpose is, and it just became
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so overwhelming an unavoidable I just I
couldn't face it anymore, and I literally
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left that position, jumped off the
cliff to come back out and do the
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kind of work I'm doing today on
the complete conviction this is what I'm supposed
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to be doing with my life.
And so the vocation is really a couple
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of things. I call myself the
anti Undertaker because my job is to help
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awaken the otherwise walking dead who are
not living with passion, working on purpose,
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and being inspired by what they're up
to. I was one of them.
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I know what they look like.
And two, the other thing is
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is that in so doing, I
really act as a catalyst to help other
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people, and I enable them to
find their passion, inspiration and purpose and
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make the leap to make the lives
that they really want for themselves. So
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that's how two point showed up for
me, that is I love that story
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at least because you know, I
think that there's a few things that I'm
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learning from their story. The first
one is that you know, sometimes it's
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a confluence of events that nudges us, pushes us, or forces us in
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a particular direction, and if they
didn't occur, then we wouldn't move.
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And it's so important that if we
keep on living the life that we've always
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lived, that means there's no change. And when there's no change, then
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you don't get those nudges, you
don't get those forceful events that push you
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to become who you're really meant to
be. The other thing is is that
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you know, I bet that you
could take somebody else and put them in
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your life and they would not end
up nearly where you are because you decided
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to look at the signs in catalysts
or symbols in your life and think deeply
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about them and make a change where
somebody else could experience these same things and
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gloss right over them. And I
think that you know, that's the difference
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is is do we look at the
signs and symbols in our life and find
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meaning in them? And that and
do we translate that meaning into meaningful action.
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That just changes up how we live
because if we don't do that,
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we don't experience any things. We
don't experience anything, we don't grow,
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we don't grow that, we never
become all that we can be. So,
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I mean, I love that story. And I bet you you're thinking,
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you know, there's probably a three
or four O three out there right,
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Yeah, absolutely, And I'm working
on it and I'm elevenant. I'm
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so charged by it. And the
thing about working from purpose, as you
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know, gives you crazy energy,
crazy courage, and you just do things
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you wouldn't otherwise. Imagine some of
those things I want to hear about because
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I want to hear about your journey
next of kind of how you got to
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your two point zero and here at
Amada. But before we do that,
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let's grab our last break. I'm
a last Cortez, your host. We've
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been in the air with Waley Show. The chief commercial officer of Amata Health,
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a digital care program that empowers people
to achieve their health goals through a
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sustainable lifestyle change, is also a
brain tumor survivor Thriver, and is authoring
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a personal memoir, Gifts of Disruption
that chronicles his life changing journey from diagnosis
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to recovery to transformation. He joins
it to Day from San Francisco, California.
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After the break, We're going to
hear about how he really made his
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way to a model health scostinating.
Stay with us, We'll be right back.
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Elise Cortez is a speaker and engagement
and development catalyst. She designs and
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delivers professional development, leadership and engagement
workshops and can bring her expertise to your
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organization. She will help ignite meaningful
development within your workforce that will increase employee
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engagement, performance and retention. To
learn more or to invite Elise to speak
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to your organization, please visit her
at www dot Elise Cortez dot com.
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She would welcome the opportunity to help
get your employees working on purpose. This
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is working on Purpose with Elise Cortez. To reach our program today, send
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an email to Elise Alis at Elise
Cortez dot com. Now back to working
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on purpose. Thanks for staying with
us, and welcome back to working on
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Purpose. If you're just tuning in, I guests, while show the chief
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Commercial Officer of Amada Health, a
digital care program that empowers people to achieve
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their healthcare goals through sustainable lifestyle change. He's also a brain tumor survivor and
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thriver, and is authoring a personal
memoir, Gifts of Disruption, that chronicles
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his life changing journey from diagnosis to
recoverage. Your transformation. I'm your host,
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Alice Cortez. So for this last
segment, Whale, I think it's
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really important that we talk about the
plan. You and I talked about this
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on the phone, that these kinds
of major transformations don't just sort of happen
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and show up one day, but
rather we have to work at them.
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And you have quite a process that
you went through to get to where you
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are today, and I think it
would be great to presence that for our
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listeners so they really understand just how
they can do it for themselves. So
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yes, yeah, right, solutely, yeah. I mean it's I think
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it's probably worth knowing that everybody's journey
probably is a little bit different, so
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I can certainly share what I went
through. I think there are probably some
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some things I hope can help some
others that are listening that potentially are thinking
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about taking the leap or the plunge
or how to if they're thinking about living
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their their next version or their two
point zero or three point zero. So
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yeah, so I'm going to have
to talk about so you know, for
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me, the first thing that really
made a difference, and I referenced it
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earlier, and I can't say how
important this is is that if you're asking
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yourself the question like Okay, hey, way Lee, you know, is
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this what you're meant to do?
Is this what you should be doing ten
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years for now? Or you know, at least if you're saying yourself,
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gosh, is there something else out
there that I'm meant to do? Stop
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asking the question. Because if you're
asking the question, that's your subconscious way,
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your subconscious is way of actually telling
you that you need to be thinking
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deeply about something. And so change
the question into a statement. And that's
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what I did. I changed it. And it took me years to figure
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this out. So I'm a slow
learner, and so I basically said,
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okay, instead of saying, hey, do I need to make a change,
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I actually then wrote down I'm going
to make a change. I didn't
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know what the change would be.
I had no expectations of what it was,
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but I told myself, I'm going
to make a change. And so
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then, you know, the next
thing I started doing is said, okay,
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well, I know I'm spending my
energy in my spare time, and
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it's towards this thing called digital technology
or digital health, and I have a
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huge passion for it for some reason. And so then I started actually really
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just taking small steps and taking small
actions that were I would say, no
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regret or no commitment. And so
I started reading and doing research, talking
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to friends, subscribing the blogs,
following thought leaders in the space. And
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this took, you know, quite
a bit of time, you know,
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over time, but it was an
important part for me to take those risk
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free steps to determine is this just
a passing interest or is this a hobby
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or is this potentially the change that's
going to catapult me to live by two
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point zero. After I got to
that point, I found myself at work
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trying to figure out ways to incorporate
digital technology into my current job. Now,
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not everybody's got the luxury to take
their passion and put it into their
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job, but point, if you
have an opportunity, if you are working
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in a job and you have a
passion for the philanthropy or the charity or
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let's say the United Way. Then
how do you take that passion and put
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elements of it into your job.
So maybe you are kind of a frontline
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manufacturing person, but you have passion
for charity. Is there a way that
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you can actually bring that charity into
work and engage your employees and find that
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connection between what your organization does in
what in this case, your passion on
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your charity does too as well.
Make that investment because again, it gets
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you to action, It gets you
beyond just looking into things. And that's
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what I did. When I was
at my previous company, the biopharmaceutical kind
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of industry. I started actually launching
digital care programs and concepting those and integrating
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into my business. And I found
that, you know, I was spending
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kind of more creative energy in that
space than I was in my core business,
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which was just more evidence that I
needed to really make a change.
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You know. The next thing that
I did was make you small investments.
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I started making trips on an annual
basis. I would go out to Silicon
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Valley. I would go out to
the Bay Area and meet with Ventra capitalists
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and begin to expand my network I
would go to conventions, I would go
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to industry meetings on digital health.
I would basically build my network, and
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through that people started to expose things
to me. They said, oh,
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you know, Lateley, you should
meet with this person and that person and
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next thing. You know, over
a period of months, I had met
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with and I counted it, literally
over eighty five people that I didn't know
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three months before that I had just
met within that three months. And that's
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when you know that when you're meeting
those people and you're connecting with them,
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that there's something there along the way. The last two are important. They
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are really like starting a side hustle. My side hustle was at work.
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I was doing this digital technology work
in my previous company, and then finally
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was taking a leap. I started
preparing myself and said, you know what,
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weight Lee, You know you got
a second lease on life after recovering
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and transform yourself from your brain surgery
and your brain tumor. That there's no
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better time like the presence because present. So if you don't do it,
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you'll know you're going to regret it. So climb up that proverbial high dive
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and jump off the diving board.
And that's exactly what I did. And
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I tell you, you know,
I've just started my new position with Amata
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and Digital Health, and I can
tell you it's it's pure euphoria. I
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got that, and I'll share just
briefly. I'm from my b point two.
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It could relate to so much of
what you were saying. I too
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found myself getting more focused on my
site, hustle and more of what was
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bubbling up for me, which is
really what led me to say, you
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know what, it's time for me
to move on from this and really jump
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off this cliff like you're talking about, and to your point, like you're
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saying your article, Wale is you
know, whole fields would open up as
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I kept those steps going, and
people I wouldn't have any other reason to
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meet sort of coming into my path, and the conversations and some of the
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guests that I've had on my show
that I've had some amazing collaboration with and
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who've taught me so much. I
would have never met them before had I
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not jumped off that cliff and just
kept walking. You're absolutely right. So
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it's kind of like if you continue
to do the same things over and over,
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you should expect the same thing over
and over. It sounds so simple,
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but if you're asking yourself the question, just like I was over long
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period of time, and I spent
way too much time, you know,
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procrastinating over the question. But once
I started taking action, door started opening
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because I did something different. I
took action. The difference between people who
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dream that people who make their dreams
come true is action. Even if it's
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a small one. That action then
ripples through the universe and something comes back,
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and then you can take the next
step or the next action, and
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next thing you know, and next
thing you know, you're well on your
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way to living your two point zero. And there's really another really important function
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of that action you're talking about,
Wallie, that I know about again because
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some of the guests I've had in
my show, is that it has a
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motivational reinforcing element to it. The
action reinforces I'm moving, and there's a
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momentum that you attach yourself to it, and it gives you this sense I
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am moving, and it reinforces and
gives you a more motivation to take the
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next next step tomorrow. It's just
got a real functional element to it that
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really powers you in addition to just
putting more ripples out there, it powers
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you're you're absolute right. You know. A quick small story. Several years
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ago, this is probably about four
years ago or so, I made one
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of my trips out to the Bay
Area Silicon Valley, and I had a
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friend that I met years before that
in China who had also relocated the Bay
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Area. And he said, hey, way, Lee, I know you've
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been thinking about this because we've talked
about it, We've had drinks over it.
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You should meet my friend who is
in this venture capitol group. And
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I said, okay, great.
This was years ago at least I met
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him, and then two years later
I reintouched with him and said, hey,
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I think I'm really getting serious about
this. He said, oh,
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go talk to my friend in New
York. All the way across the other
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side of the country. I spoke
to his friend in New York and he
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said, oh, you know,
you need to talk to you know,
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my wife. So I spoke to
his wife and his wife said, oh,
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you know what, I know somebody
sits on this board. You should
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go talk to this person. This
person, And I tell you it was
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this classic seven degrees of Kevin Bacon
and it ended up sourcing an opportunity that
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while I didn't didn't pursue or didn't
actually become available. I got down to
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the last point of the opportunity itself. But it never would have happened if
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I had not just asked my friend
and had my friend not put me in
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touch with that first person. And
so you're right, there's this reinforcing and
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engaging energy that things materialize. So
long as you do something. If you
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do nothing, nothing happens. You
can expect nothing in return. Exactly.
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I couldn't help but envision like either
a tennis ball or a golf ball being
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bantied about it as you were being
tossed from next conversation the next conversation.
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It's great you get by from little
help from your friends, and just by
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speaking this stuff, declaring this stuff
brings it into an existence. And I
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can tell you for me, I
have been amazed Walie that I'm out doing
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my work and stuff happens. I'm
like, I'm supposed to be doing this,
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and I go this next direction.
It's like the wind is carrying me.
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And I wouldn't have envisioned what I'm
doing if ever, before all the
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different products that I've created, the
book that I'm writing, the different offerings
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that I've created for women's storytelling.
It's just I just really would have never
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envisioned any of that stuff, but
I just kept listening in to what I
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was being told and accepted it and
was if you will somewhat obedient to that
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voice. Yeah, and at least
you think that's because you're following like the
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truest form of your purpose. That
yes, I do. That people pick
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up on that and they want to
help you and they open doors for you.
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Yes, I do. And I
also think it's really also just really
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paying attention to you know, that
that internal divining rod, or that it's
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the purpose, a voice of purpose. When you listen to that, it
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does guide you, it does govern
you. Yeah. And I find also
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that, you know, we all
have people that we look up to and
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then inspire us, whether they be
you know, the icons of the world
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in history MLK, Nelson, Adel
and Mother Curious, or even people that
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other people don't know that inspire us. But like when you listen to them,
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if you listen to what drives them
and why they do what they do,
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Hey, you can't help but be
enamored with the clarity and focus of
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what it is that they do.
But if they were to ask for your
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help, you would jump to go
help them. Where is anybody else?
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Maybe you wouldn't. And so I
really think that that when you put yourself
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out there and people can sniff out
whether you're for real, and if you
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are, because it's so rare,
people open doors for you. Yes,
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it's irresistible, is what it comes
down to. That's the way I like
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to describe it. And to that
end, I would love for you.
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We're getting so close to run at
a time here, So if you could
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be already about yeah, already about
a minute on this for our listeners,
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distinguish for us life before and after
two point zero. For you, life
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before, I would say, was
by everybody's definition perfect. People would look
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at my life and say, way, Lee, you and your family,
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you've got everything. Life after my
two point zero is I look at my
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own life and I say, I've
got everything that is stunningly simple and beautiful.
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Yeah, we know when it's all
not there, don't we? Yes,
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we do. So that's what's on
Instagram. That's so great. I
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didn't even know that that's so great. Well, closing the show here,
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we'll tell our listeners how to find
you. But what do you want to
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leave our listeners with? Today?
We've got listeners all over the globe,
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and they come for various reasons.
What would you like to leave them with?
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So I guess I would leave them
with three things. The first one
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is, you become the story you
tell yourself. So if if you believe
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you're this, that's what you'll become. If you believe that you're destined do
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great things, you will accomplish great
things, So you become the story you
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tell yourself. The second one is
if you open yourself up to the universe,
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just like we were talking about,
at least by following the truest form
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of your purpose, the universe tends
to return in kind and reward you.
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The universe has this keen ability to
sniff out things that are not pure and
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not true. So you open up
yourself the universe, the universe returns and
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kind. And the last one is
maybe just a bit practical about those of
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you out there who are wondering about
how to live your two point zero is
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to take a small action tomorrow,
or better yet, take a small action
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to day that you think can contribute
to that and make it a no regret
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one and see where it takes you. And if it takes you to a
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good place, take the next small
action and next thing. You know that
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momentum will be so strong it will
build confidence to you to make the change
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that you want to make. What
a beautiful way to finish the show and
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really give our listeners some pearls to
take them on their journey next. I
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thank you so much Willie for coming
into my path sharing your beautiful heart and
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soul and journey and story with us. It has been inspiring and very meaningful
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and connecting for me and I imagine
our listeners as well. So thank you.
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Thank you, Elise, it's been
You've made my day. I love
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listening to your story and I certainly
hope to hear the stories of people out
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there and best wishes. Thank you
so much listeners. If you want to
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learn more about Waley's show and the
work he and his team are doing at
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Omada Health, visit Omada health dot
com. Let me spell that for you.
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It's O m A DA health dot
com. Now wale if you if
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anybody wants to reach out to you
directly, or is there another way they
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can find you. Yeah, sure, I'm on LinkedIn, and that's where
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you can also find my live your
two point zero article, as well as
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a few others on diversity and inclusion. You can find me on LinkedIn.
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Last name is Shall Shao, first
name Way Lee w Ei dash l I
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and feel free to reach out and
let's connect. Well, that is an
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invitation listeners, take him up on
that. Okay. Finally, last week,
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if you miss the live show,
you can always catch ay recorded podcast.
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We were on the air with Paul
Skinner, the author of Collaborative Advantage,
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How collaboration beats come petition as a
strategy for success. He helped us
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understand the specific steps in collaborating and
how employing his system can help us realize
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more of our purpose and the work
we do, especially when we have really
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big dreams we're chasing. He actually
moved me to tears at the end of
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our conversation. It was so beautiful. Really just had to recover myself.
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Next week, we'll be talking with
doctor Alex Patacos. He is affectionately nicknamed
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Doctor Meaning. He's a modern day
Greek philosopher and a founder and the founder
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of the Global Meaning Institute, and
we'll be talking about his books and his
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life's work, including the development of
a new discipline called meaning ology and advancing
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the human quest for meaning in life, work, and society. Tune in,
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we'll see you there. Remember that
work is at least a third of
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our lives, and if you believe
Wiley, fifty percent, so see it
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there. We hope you've enjoyed this
week's program. Be sure to tune in
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to Working on Purpose, featuring your
host Alice Cortez, each week on the
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Voice America Empowerment Channel. This week, find your life's purpose at work.





















































