Hack Your Career to one of Passion and Purpose

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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,

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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortez. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and

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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five. It's working

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on Purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortez. Welcome back to

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the Working on Purpose Show. Thanks
for tuning in again this week. I'm

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your host, Elise Cortez. Join
you live from Dallas, Texas, which

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is home base for me. If
you've been tuning in for a while,

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you know this program. It's all
about helping people create more meaningful and purposeful

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lives and equipping leaders inside organizations to
cultivate meaning and purpose that elicits passion inspired

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contribution, innovation, and persevering performance. I talk with my guests to draw

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on their expertise and share my own
experience consulting, speaking and developing workforces across

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the globe, and every week in
these conversations, I hope you walk away

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with something you can immediately put to
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to help you along your journey.
Go to my website at least Cortez dot

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With us today is Malarick Mitchell,
a talent development expert, corporate coach,

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conference speaker, and author. He
is the CEO and founder of Drive Influence,

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which serves global executives and organizations of
various sizes and operations who are looking

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to accelerate both performance levels and business
acumen and he's the author of Kinetic Life,

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Unleash Your Potential. We'll be talking
about his recent speaking topic of hacking

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your career along with this book.
Mel, welcome to Working on Purpose.

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Well, hey, thank you for
having me. I'm excited to be here.

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Thanks, Alice, You're so welcome. And let's just share with our

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listeners how it is that we met. Both you and I were speaking for

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the International Association with Business Communicators Conference. I think it was in April,

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and you're minding your very own business
when I tapped you on the shoulder and

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so I think we should talk on
air, and you're good enough to say

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yes, I accept, So thanks. Yes. So let's get started here.

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We only have less than an hour
together, Mel, and we're going

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to be talking about hacking our careers
to navigate to align with our purpose and

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our audacious goals, which is the
gist of the whole conversation today. But

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let's open first, if we can
with this idea of meaning, something we

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both love to talk about and work
from and our consulting and speaking. You

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said in one of our initial conversations
and prep for the show that if we

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look for meaning, we can apply
to learning to what we want to do

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next, whatever that next is that's
intriguing say more. Yes, So meaning

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is very important for several reason.
One from a standpoint of alignment, impact,

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and even just the next moves and
next opportunities often come from when you

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do things that have deep meaning.
And what I mean by meaning, I

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guess I should also define that is
it's something that that speaks to your core,

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speaks to your heart. You kind
of just feel it sometimes, right,

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and it oftentimes aligns with something that's
even greater than yourself, right,

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And so so meaning I think is
highly important, especially when it comes to

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planning your career, to making that
impact that you want to have in the

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world. And that impact could be
large, it could be small. It

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could be, you know, just
for two or three people in your family,

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or it could be for an entire
organization or a community. But I

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think to be able to align to
that meaning and align it to your purpose

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is so important. I completely agree, And as you know, I also

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very much speak about meaning, passion, inspiration, and purpose. In fact,

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you and I are absolutely singing from
the same sheet of music for sure,

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and what we speak on and what
we consult on, and to that

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end, I think though you are. You've got a really specific niche though

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about what you're speaking on in terms
of hacking your career. And what I

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want to situate for our listeners is
that I know so many people mel and

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I know you do too, who
are just aching to go do something else

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that's more meaningful and purposeful, but
they feel stuck and ill prepared. So

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just briefly for our listeners, what
are you speaking about in this topic of

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hacking your career? Okay, so
so before I even speak about hacking your

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career, I just went throughout a
couple of quick notes and key points.

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So going back to when I was
in college, right, so they always

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used to talk about and this is
like in the late eighties, early nineties,

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like the whole career ladder. Right, You'll go stay in and roll

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for a while and then you go
to the next one and it's all systematic.

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Guess what all that's gone today?
That whole career ladder. Things have

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changed so much in it in the
past ten years with automation with AI,

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with different tools and technologies and just
the way that we do what we do,

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that the career ladder has been totally
disrupted. But that's also a good

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thing because guess once, and it's
enabled us to have a large degree of

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freedom of movement to try a lot
of different things. And I think that's

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one of the key things too when
it comes of hacking your career is first

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realizing, guess what, this is
your career. It's not your managers,

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it's not the corporate presidents. This
is yours. This is something that you

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own, and you have ownership of
it, and you can map this thing

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out wherever you want it to go. So if there's some things that speak

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to you that they say, hey, no, I really like to try.

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I want to be an engineer.
I also want to do leadership development,

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and I want to do a lot
of work in the volunteer space,

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and you know, NGOs and nonprofits
and traveling the world. At first,

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those things might not even look aligned, but guess what, Hey, you

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can actually do all of them.
I have done all of it. That's

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kind of like my background a little
bit right. And so hacking your career,

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I believe part of it is one
stepping out on faith, but also

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pursuing those things that have a deep
meaning to you that you're highly passionate about

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and moving forward. Completely agree with
that, and I think I know so

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many people that are resistant to that
path. And that's one of the reasons

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that you may remember in our common
talks there at the IABC is I refer

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to myself as the anti Undertaker because
I'm really out to try to awaken people

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to their passion, their inspiration,
their purpose, they're meaning because I think

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so many people have been willing to
believe that they can't have that it's not

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for them somebody. That's for somebody
else who's more lucky or more privileged,

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But it's not for them. No, it's there. Definitely, there is

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for everybody. It's for everyone.
I completely agree email, and that's why

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you and I are going to keep
charging doing the work that we're doing right.

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Oh, most definitely, most definitely. Well, let's get into our

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book. Anything else you wanted to
say about what you're speaking on there for

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hacking your career Before we get into
the book, I would just like to

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just restate again, would you say
said for those of you that are looking

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to modify, shift, change,
or do something different, step out on

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it. And if you're at a
little bit hesitant on stepping out on it,

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try a portion of it in your
current role in some form of fashion,

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even if it's just a snippet,
but try it there. Okay,

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really quick along those lines, we
just got a question from the chat room

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here mel. The question is is
it bad to have a lot of jobs

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in a short amount of time.
Part of that is it depends one thing

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I was reading somewhere. It was
saying that we're gonna have at a minimum,

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probably at least fourteen different types of
jobs and roles over time, and

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a lot of employers are kind of
expecting to see employees go from different types

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of roles throughout time, and there
are different points in time based upon where

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you are in life that I think
that also sometimes comes into play when early

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in a career, it's kind of
expected a lot of times that you'll have

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a lot of different roles. But
as you know, sometimes if we get

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a little bit older, we might
not have many different types of roles.

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But I think that another way to
look at it is experiences. And so

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maybe one of the things that you
might stay with one company for a while,

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but guess what, you can have
a lot of different experiences, and

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all of those experiences oftentimes build upon
each other great response, well, thanks,

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let's dive into your book now here
and get as much as we can

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out of that for our listeners.
So the book is called Kinetic Life,

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and I appreciate it so much that
you're read it in the form of a

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fable or a story. And you
featured alex or excuse me, Alexis.

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She's the young woman trying to launch
your career and her mentor Will, those

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are the two main characters in the
book. And I really what I got

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first from just the way you did
that was so important for us to recruit

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mentors into our lives, especially when
we want to transform our careers and chase

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audacious goals. And so let's start
with the idea of mentors so important we

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recruit them. Have you had any
great mentors? Said, of really many

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difference in your life? Oh,
most definitely, most definitely. I can

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give two quick examples. So the
first, I would say real mentor that

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I had was a gentleman by the
name of mister Ac Hollins. Ac actually

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recruited me directly out of college.
And one of the things that he did

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for me was he allowed me to
try things, and if I failed,

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he allowed me to learn from it
and continue to grow, and he provided

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new opportunities consistently for me based upon
he was He would recognize like, oh,

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you like helping the recruit even though
you're an engineer. Oh yeah,

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we'll go ahead. We're gonna let
you go recruit at this next career fair

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Why because he could see that it's
going to help me in my career long

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term. And AC is done just
so much for me big My career wouldn't

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be where it is today without him. Can I let me come it really

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quick on that mail? So what
I would love for our listeners, especially

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those who are currently leaders or aspiring
leaders, to hear from what I hear

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from that is one of the things
I recommend to leaders is lead people as

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to who they from the vantage point
of who they can become, not who

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you see them to be today,
who can they grow into? Lead them

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from that vantage point, and they
will never forget you for that. Oh

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exactly, exactly, you will never
forget them for that, I should say.

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Yeah. And the other example,
So the other example person by the

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name of Mario Pipkin. And so
Mario is my mentor when I was at

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Microsoft, and the thing that I
really liked about Mario, was you can

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ask a question and who would give
you the real answer? No? No,

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water down, no nothing. I
was like, hey, Mario,

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what are they really saying here?
No, check it out. This is

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what they're saying. Boom boom boom
boom. Now this is what you need

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to do in order to counteract that
Okay, and and that scenario and in

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that work environment. That's the type
of mentor Anita I didn't need like all

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huggy philly type. I needed real
answers to work and grow from its right,

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go ahead, sorry, mal so. So I would encourage folks to

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find those mentors that can provide that
real feedback that you can grow from,

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because when you look at it,
right, if you're about to walk in

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the traffic, you want somebody that's
going to give you direct feedback. Hey,

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don't go over there. That's a
little bit dangerous. Sometimes you need

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mentors are going to speak to you
in exact that same way. Am I

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sting? Sometimes? But guess what
growth is going to come from it?

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Yes? And it's much easier to
hear those kinds of pieces of feedback when

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we know that that mentor stands for
us. He or she is standing for

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us becoming as successful and fulfilled as
we can be, so their feedback will

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be heard from that vantage point.
And I really believe everybody needs a mentor

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and or a couple of coaches.
I have two coaches myself. You just

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can't you can't get there without help. Well, and I'll say for me

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just shortly. Some people have listened
for a while, I've heard me sure

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the story. But probably my best
mentor, Mail was the gentleman I worked

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for when I first got out of
high school. I didn't go to college

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immediately, and I was with him
for nineteen months eighteen months or so,

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and then he fired me at age
nineteen, and I was so taken aback.

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I loved working for him. He
pushed me, He taught me so

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much. He had high expectations of
me. He never doubted I could not

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do something. He just assumed I
could. So I figured out how to

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do it, and I did it, and so that was great. But

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the best thing about it, though, Mail and listeners, if you've gone

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through this, he fired me because
he said it would be a crime to

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keep you here. You can do
and be so much more. You've got

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to go see the world you've got
to get an education and you've got to

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do something with yourself. But before
you go hire your replacement, I think

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he must him and A must have
been France, right, because when when

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I got ready to leave Bechdel,
I was starting to look around at aces

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like, hey, no, we
can provide opportunity that you need here to

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grow. I hate to see you
leave, but the best thing for you

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will be to leave for your career. You can always come back, but

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you need to go. So I
think your mentor of my mentor, we're

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friends. Well he's still a friend
today. He's eighty three years old and

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he's still inventing products as a civil
engineer from his training, and he's out

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and I'm cheering for him now and
I'm so proud of him I could bust

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smell. I'll see him a couple
of months when I come through Portland.

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Okay, Well, well I want
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years before this first break. I
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because the way you've written it is
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a systematic process that enables Sorry that's
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that I want to showcase is that
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their readers to achieve their audacious goals
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And it's just it really is punchy
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body, and stay in kinnetic that
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the first part is passion, and
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about that, but if you can, let's just go ahead and crack that

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to our listeners for what do you
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you like to do that if it
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a loss in your life. So
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and doing things and technology and if
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feel a loss. If you're passionate
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was taken from you, that would
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talking with people or presenting whatever it
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go on our first break? Let's
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Elis Cortez. We've been in the
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the author of Kinetic Life, Unleashed
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hacking our careers, the importance of
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Cortez dot com. Now back to
working on Purpose. Thanks for staying with

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us, and welcome back to working
on purpose. If you're just joining us.

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My guest is Melick Mitchell. He
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coach, conference speaker, and author. He is the CEO and founder of

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Drive Influence, with serves global executives
and organizations of various sizes and operations who

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are looking to excel a rate both
performance levels and business acumen. He's also

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the author of Kinetic Life, Unleash
Your Potential. I'm your host, Elis

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Cortez, So mel before the break, we were just starting to get into

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some of the chapters of your book, and the idea that I had was

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I really wanted to give our listeners
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conversation and walk away with something very
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into practice once they leave us.
So your next chapter after Passion is Purpose,

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and you talk about the importance of
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that chapter. So say more a
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their purpose through your system. Yeah, so, so one of the key

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thing when you think about purpose,
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your why, your why. And
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these passions that are within you,
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are also tied to it, right
then that are tied to who you are

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in if you like. If you
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like a two second thing, but
it's something that you that you need to

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spend some time and let it marinate, but also search within yourself. Because

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see, when you when you understand
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lot easier for you. And it
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decisions on what you should do right
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apply for or where you should volunteer, maybe to build us some skills in

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a certain area to do certain things
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with that, mel And I'll just
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language that, and it fits with
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lens through which we evaluate opportunities.
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be able to make decisions and frankly
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we wouldn't otherwise have if we weren't
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lot of times I will see people
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over here and try something, they
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they're just kind of like just floating
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boat in the ocean without a rudder. But when you know your purpose,

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wind against you if you know what
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a direction? M I completely agree. We just got a question in the

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chat room that's pertinent to this,
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It is how do you find your
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might help that that listener with that
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of that why look at it also
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with your passion, with your values, and what do you want to

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do with it? If you if
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world, what would you want to
do? Who would you want to help?

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of the things about that came about
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I had with my mentees. And
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environment, and one of the things
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sure people have access to clean drinking
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everything that she does now kind of
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drinking water, and so her goal
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to clean drinking water. And we
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stand track and get more from your
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that listener. Another thing to think
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do you stand for? In her
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to good, good drinking water as
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the things that you have addressed in
your life that maybe you've spent years trying

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to discover for yourself, handle for
yourself, heal from So that wrestle that

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you've been dealing with for a long
time can be a really important place to

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look. Maybe that wrestle is what
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world to help them with the same
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that to that listener who's you know, I can hear the ache behind the

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question. How do I find the
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next chapter that I love so much. Mail. It's the term that you

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use in it is audacity and so
named chapter. So first, what do

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you mean by audacious school? And
why is it important to have an audacious

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school? Okay? And so these
three items, your passion, purpose,

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and audacious goal, they all align
to what's in your heart, right unless

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you're motivators and an audacious goal from
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this, it's a goal that's so
big that it scares you. It should

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scare you. It should be something
that you cannot achieve by yourself. You

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have to build a team. The
other aspect of it is this, for

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you to achieve your audacious goal,
you're gonna have to grow, You're going

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to stretch, You're going to learn
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hero's journey, right if you look
at all heroes, doesn't matter what movie

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you pick out. It could be
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Wars. He's, you know,
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then it becomes a Jedi knight.
He grew a little bit, We too

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must also grow to achieve our dacious
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be built upon your why and your
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that why, let's say your your
your why is to ensure that people have

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access to clean drinking water. Now
you can rattet it up even a little

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bit higher to saying, hey,
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this area or x amount of people
have access or it's no longer a question

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anymore. Right, So, when
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Bill Gates and Paul Allen's audacious goal
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computer in every home and office.
That's a pretty audacious goal. You need

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a whole lot of people to do
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so create that audacious goal. This
is something that you're not going to achieve

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and like, oh, I'm going
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to keep it working at this a
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might be something that you start and
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of the things, in fact,
This happened in the in the very audience

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that I was speaking in. I
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don't know if you remember this question, but when I finished my my,

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My, My talk, one of
the audience members said, well, you

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know, does it have to do
what does my wife have to be connected

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to some big old thing? I
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be this other little I don't think
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you remember that question? Kind of
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to that if you would a little
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have something audacious. Yes. So
one, it's it's a it's a motivator

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and provides that that so when you
get up in the morning, what am

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I going to do on I have
my wife that I'm working on, my

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audacious goal that I'm pushing towards.
And and even if your goal is not

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to save in the world, guess
what it Whatever your goal is, raise

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some are and raised a level of
excellence. That's also on it. Because

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one is going to help you to
grow. But the other thing is when

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we pushed towards our goals and we
let our light shine, it also motivates

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others and we're when regardless of what
you're doing in life, there's always somebody

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watching, always somebody watching and growing
and learning from what you do, even

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if you never speak to them.
And so so by you doing what you

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do at a high level and pushing
hard, it's also going to motivate others.

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I completely agree with that. We
have a chat question the chat room,

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which I'm going to hold for just
a second because it's going to get

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to one of the other questions that
we have here. So let's go ahead

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and grab your chapter on focus,
which of course I really also appreciate because

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you know, none of this is
going to happen if we don't start engaging

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our head too, which is the
section that it's in. So you talk

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about how important it is for us
to be able to engage our focus to

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a these audacious goals, especially when
working from purpose. Can you say a

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bit more about how we can how
we can achieve focus? Yes? And

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focus is part of a process,
right, because where we place our focus

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changes our thoughts. Our thoughts change
our actions, and our actions change our

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reality. And so oftentimes where you
place your focus. So let's just go

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back to being an environmentalist, right, Since I used her as an example

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of the beginning, and so therefore
her focus needs to be on other environmental

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items, other items that also targeted
towards water, maybe also items targeted towards

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conservation and those things, but her
focus cannot be over on Let me also

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look at I don't know cars right. Maybe yes, cars contribute to the

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environment, but that's not our primary
focus area. And so we're you're going

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to have to filter some things out
in order to increase your focus. But

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as you do this, a level
of discipline also is going to come about

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and what you're doing, but the
way that you think and the way that

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you see things also will begin to
shift and change, and you'll also notice

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that your actions are starting to align
to what you want to do. That

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was beautiful, malt. I think
it really gave something to our listeners for

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that that was beautifully narrated. Now
related also, also in the head section

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of your book, you have a
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extremely important. It's a very important
process in cultivating for our audacious goals.

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influence and how can we incorporate influence
to our work from the purpose finished point

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to go for what we're going for
that audacious goal. Yes, and so

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the reason one of the reasons why
I used influence actually the kind of from

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John Maxwell, leadership development expert,
and I've read a ton of John books,

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but one of the things that John
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leadership is influenced, nothing more,
nothing less. And so therefore what I

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mean by influence is one you want
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and to the greater community and what
you're working in. But also it also

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points back to how well are you
leading yourself Because in order for you to

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achieve whatever goal that you set in
life, it could be large, large,

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audacious goal, it might even be
the small goal. If you don't

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lead yourself well, it's going to
be extremely hard to get there. So

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you first must look at how are
you going to influence yourself to get up

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and get moving continuously. Well,
that leads us to the next part of

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the book here that I think is
important. And now we're in the body

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part of the book and you outline
the importance of staying in action. So

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you mentioned getting moving before. I
love action. My number one strength for

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Gallup is achievement. So yes,
the movement is important for me, so

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it's completion. And this is where
this I want to map this over to

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this maybe this person's question in the
chat room. You go on to identify

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that a big reason people often don't
act towards their audacious goal is this little

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thing called fear. Yes, fear. That's a big four letter word,

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right, Chris. It's probably one
of the worst four letter words that are

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out there when it comes to our
behavior, because fear creates an activity oftentimes,

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and oftentimes it's not even a real
item. It's you know, you'll

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hear saying, well, what would
they say? What would they say?

427
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We don't know who they is,
but somehow they are keeping us from doing

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what we need to do because it's
it's a type of an ingrained fear.

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But one of the good things about
it is once you start moving and start

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tackling those things that you have a
fear of, you realize, like,

431
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no, they're not that big,
and so we have to overcome fear.

432
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We have to face it face to
face and then step through it and step

433
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forward and guess what if part of
your fear or apprehension is failure. Go

434
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ahead and make failure your friend.
You have to make failure your friend and

435
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embrace it because that's going to happen. We're all gonna make slips and falls.

436
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None of us learned how to walk
or crawl on the first try.

437
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It just didn't happen, right,
So we slip, We fail, We

438
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.039
got up, slip fail, got
up, got up again. Oh now

439
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.960
I'm walking a little bit farther.
Okay, I'm starting to get this thing

440
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down. But you have to push
through fear and don't let it hold you

441
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back. Zig Ziggler used to say, fear is false evidence appearing realm.

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Remember that, and it is false. Beautiful, mal let's grab our last

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break. I'm at least Corte as
your host. We're on the air with

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Mellerick Mitchell. He's a talent development
expert, corporate coach, conference speaker,

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00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.759
and author. He's the author of
Kinetic Life, Unleash You're Potential. He

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joges Ay from Dallas, Texas.
After the rak will finish more in his

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book and go on to hear about
some of the ways he applies this within

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organizations and people. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Elise Cortez

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is a speaker and engagement and development
catalyst. She designs and delivers professional development,

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leadership and engagement workshops and can bring
her expertise to your organization. She

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will help ignite meaningful development within your
workforce that will increase employee engagement, performance

452
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.680
and retention. To learn more or
to invite a lease to speak to your

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00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:43.279
organization, please visit her at www
dot Elise Cortez dot com. She would

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welcome the opportunity to help get your
employees working on purpose. This is working

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on Purpose with Elise Cortez. To
reach our program today, send an email

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to Elise se at Elise cortez dot
com. Now back to working on purpose.

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Thanks for staying with us, and
welcome back to working on purpose.

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If you're just tuning in. My
guest is Meli Rick Mitchell. He is

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the talent development expert, corporate coach, conference speaker, and author. He

460
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is the CEO and founder of Drive
Influence, which serves global performance excuse me,

461
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.559
global executives and organizations of various size
and operations who are looking to accelerate

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both performance levels and business acumen.
And he's the author of Kinetic Life,

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Unleash Your potential. I'm your host, Elise Cortez so Mal. One of

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the questions that came in the chat
room while we were while we were chatting,

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and it was related. I wanted
to serve it up after we talked

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about how we would confront fear.
The question is should every goal scare us?

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So I would say not every goal, but I would say your audacious

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goal to scary, and so do
it and with the not audacious gold and

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break it down into smaller steps,
right into more bite sized chunks, and

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those things should be doable right and
oftentimes it also requires that you start to

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build a form of momentum. Someone
once was asking me, so Mal,

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how did you write your book?
I said, I just started off like

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five minutes a day until I was
there to build out some momentum towards you

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know, I can build it out
in a little bit stronger contexts, and

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so all your goals should not scare
you, but some of your goals should

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stretch you. Now, you said
something about staying in momentum, and I

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wonder if that isn't related. Do
you have a system you talk about in

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the book about staying in daily action
towards sixty and ninety day goals. Is

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that what you mean by being in
momentum? That's part of it. Yes,

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So, so oftentimes encourage groups,
teams, organizations, individuals to break

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down what their goals are until thirty
sixty ninety day timeline, and so that

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provides a snapshot on where you're going, and it also helps you to keep

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pace for what are some of the
core things that you need to do.

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And so at the in the thirty
day time frame, you're pretty granular within

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that space, and what are some
of the core things that you need to

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do, actions and tasks and those
things. And at the sixty day when

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you're writing it out, there's a
little bit more high level, and at

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the ninety day it's even higher from
a standpoint of you know, these are

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just some of the core outcomes,
and then you just keep every month,

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start refining that the next thirty days
that if that makes sense and so and

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so the key thing is just staying
at it right and regardless of what your

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goal is. If your goal is
working out exercising, hey just do something

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every day. It could be small, like I say five minutes. It

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might be hey, you know,
I'm going to walk a little bit more.

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Today, I'm going to do the
stairs instead of the elevator. But

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do some things that continue to contribute
to where you want to go and look

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and look for those gaps in your
time. Well, you can do some

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of these things, but I would
just add to that mail. I had

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the privilege of interviewing Jeff Hayden on
air. He's the author of the Motivation

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Myth, and what he taught me
and our listeners is that it doesn't when

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we do those steps whenever, it
when we put ourselves into that action.

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It's that feeling that we get from
feeling like we are making progress that gives

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us even more juice and fuel to
keep going. So it doesn't occur as

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00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:36.320
oh my gosh, I have to
slog through this. It actually feels good

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00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.800
because you know you're working toward that
big, audacious goal and that gives you

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wind in your sales. Yes.
And one additional thing I think that we

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forget to do. I know I
do very often. I forget to do

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this is celebrate your wins. Celebrate
your wins. So if you're starting to

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bill momentum, celebrate it all right. You don't have to go overboard for

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every time you do some something,
but do put some milestones in there that

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you can't celebrate, right. For
some of us, celebrating is you know,

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we open up, you know,
our favorite bottle of Bubbly or whatever

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it is we like to sip on. And maybe for somebody else, you

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know, they're going to buy themselves
in new Mercedes, Benz whatever it is

515
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right somewhere along the continuum. But
or maybe it's just that I get to

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go and share with my family and
we spend an evening over dinner, and

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I get to share my success with
them. Yeah, and we can keep

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00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:38.840
it within reason right and keep an
overwards somewhat balanced. So maybe I'm buying

519
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:45.119
the Mercedes off of like you know, you wrote for five minutes. But

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but just even say, hey,
you know what I enjoyed, that I

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00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:57.599
might have an extra glass of tea
today or something, and just looking for

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some ways to celebrate what you're beautiful. So along those lines, speaking of

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celebration, I always like to have
a place in my show when we're talking

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00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.920
about this kind of this kinds of
practical how to stuff mal is to give

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00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:17.599
our listeners some stories of how you've
been able to help people transform their careers

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and career a kininectic life. So
you mentioned one of your mentees right now,

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but do you have a story or
maybe two of that you can share

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with us. Yes, and if
you don't mind, I'd like to provide

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a share an example when I was
working with the team an organization and then

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I also work with some individual and
show you some individuals to sure. So

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one of my clients are based in
Las Vegas and I had done some things

532
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for their other organization, help them
with their rotation programs and so on and

533
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.960
so forth, and they said,
hey, Mal can you help us with

534
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.920
our leadership team? So, yeah, no problem. And their challenge was

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everybody was operating in silos and a
like eight or nine people on the team,

536
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and nobody was really talking to each
other. They weren't sharing information.

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They're all very senior folks. The
organization sides with about six hundred employees,

538
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but they weren't talking. And since
they weren't talking, they weren't moving forward.

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And so one of the things I
did for this group was first before

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we even had an off site,
I had a conversation with everyone and one

541
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of the people that was part of
the group, she was their finance person,

542
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and she said, mail, these
guys will not talk to me.

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00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.920
They feel I'm trying to beat up
on them every time I come to them.

544
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But I just need their numbers so
I can go get them there.

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00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.719
The money that theydn't need to fund
their projects. Was it no problem?

546
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.760
Hey, thank you for telling me. I can say things an off site

547
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.679
that you cannot say. But we'll
get there and we'll fix that for you.

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And so one of the primary things
that we focused on on that first

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off site was purpose, was helping
them define their purpose and what there are

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dacious goal was because the thing is
this, if everybody's not on the same

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page, was saying why we exist
as organization, everybody's going to do something

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a little bit different. And then
also the other part is that we brought

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in more conversations. I brought in
conversations to where they can actually get to

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know each other as part of a
check in on the way they can know

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each other on a work wise and
also on a personal basis, because guess

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00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.760
what we are, who we are
everywhere we go. So we got the

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team align. They started connecting,
collaborating even more so even during the off

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site. And so six weeks later, when I went to go and meet

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with each person individually to find out
how are they doing on their goals that

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00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:46.840
they said, she came in and
literally she was like in tears. She's

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like, hey, Mel, they
talked to me, they reach out to

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me. Now I can do my
job. And I thought that was as

563
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phenomenal because think about it, how
hard is that to go to work and

564
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:07.440
have to battle for forty hours a
week And now it's all It was completely

565
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.679
turned around because now they have an
alignment, they have a goal. They

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00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:17.480
also know each other's role and how
to get there as a team. Beautiful

567
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:22.119
mill. That's beautiful and right because
we all get up in the morning or

568
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:23.360
whenever it is that we go to
go to work, whether it's evening,

569
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:27.719
morning, afternoon, and we're really
there to make a difference. We're not

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there just to you know, to
punch the clock. We want to matter.

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And so what's beautiful about the work
that you got to do with them

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00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:38.519
is that you helped her matter.
Yes, it's beautiful. You had another

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example you were going to share.
Yeah, So, so one other example,

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and this is one just stepping out
of your normal conference zone. And

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so when I was at Microsoft,
I managed a global rotation program for new

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00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.320
college hires, and I had a
young lady that was in my program,

577
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and her goal was she wanted to
become a developer. So you had to

578
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:02.880
do four rotations within the program,
each one six months in duration. She

579
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:05.920
said, no, Mel, I
want to be developer. I want to

580
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:07.960
be a developer. I want to
be a developer. I want to write

581
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.559
code. I said, all right, I got it, check it out.

582
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.400
This is what I want you to
go do. I want you to

583
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.000
go do a role as a program
manager for six months, just where you

584
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.960
can peer into their mindset and understand
what they need, and you'll be to

585
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.280
write better code according to their requirements. I don't want to do it,

586
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.400
so just go do it. Trust
me to work out. So she came

587
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.280
back about like four weeks later,
Oh, I love this, And then

588
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.599
later on she's like, oh,
this is what I'm going to do,

589
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:43.760
and so now she's like a senior
program manager. Awesome. I've been doing

590
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.880
it for like eight years. But
it took that little push for the step

591
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:52.880
out into that unknown territory that kind
of made her a little bit nervous.

592
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:59.760
But then she got it, and
then she loved it and taken all completely

593
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.599
in there. She's never looked back. Well and Atlanta. One of the

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big reasons I do the work that
I do is, I mean, I

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00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.079
know that work is going to account
for about forty percent of our lives.

596
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.039
And if we're not happy at work, we're not happy in life. And

597
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:17.199
also our family life suffers. The
dog suffers, our children's suffer, everybody's

598
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:22.440
suffers. And so that's one of
the major reasons I'm so committed to staying

599
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:27.320
and helping people discover their passion,
purpose and inspiration through their work. Yes,

600
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.239
great story, Oh my gosh.
Okay, so we're almost out of

601
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.320
time here, mel But if we
can, I think that our listeners might

602
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.480
want to better understand. Maybe you've
already started, you've been addressing it somewhat

603
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:43.000
through these examples, But you help
companies transform their talent in your role as

604
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:46.320
a talent architect. That sounds really
awesome and heady. But how is it

605
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.719
first that companies come to understand that
they actually need this kind of help.

606
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.639
What would be the signs? So
I would say some of the signs are

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00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.800
one several different, and all of
these are not always connected. But sometimes

608
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:10.800
it's turnover. Sometimes it's inefficiencies in
regards to attaining or achieving your core goals.

609
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.960
Right. The other part could also
be from a standpoint of not just

610
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:23.800
quality suffering, but your morale and
organization is suffering. Right. You still

611
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.960
might be doing really great things,
but man, are you burning people out?

612
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:35.199
Is it a toxic environment? And
so some of those things there come

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into play. The other aspect is
if you have one goal, but it

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seems like you're going in five different
directions, and so if everybody on the

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team is doing something a little bit
different, I can help you with all

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these things because a lot of go
ahead, No, I've just your knowledge,

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go ahead. So a lot of
times, what I've found is that

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one it's communication needs to be improved
and increased. I'll help organizations with their

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internal connections and communications, not from
an email standpoint, but just how they

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communicate and interact with each other,
but also from an alignment. Getting everyone

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in the same direction, same goal, one voice, and people following that

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I think is so key. It's
not an over a night experience, but

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it's one. Once you said it, you have to continue to refine it,

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just like like when you're typing in
directions in your phone. I guess,

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well, sometimes we go veer off
course and then the GPS says,

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oh, make a left, make
a left and get us back on track

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right. And so those same type
of things happen with organizations. They sure

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do. We encounter them right and
left, And I guess that's I'm grateful

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that I get to be able to
work with them to help them, as

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I know you are. But yes, it's easy to get off track.

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Yes, so we're getting to the
close your mil And I always like to

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be able to give my guests the
last word. So you know this show

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is listening to on a global level
and that most of the listeners are either

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hungry to discover their purpose, their
leaders who want to become a better leader,

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more effective of what they do,
to be able to instill that passion,

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inspiration and purpose in their workforce.
What would you like to leave our

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listeners with today? So first,
I want to encourage you to push towards

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it to one finding your passion,
purpose and audacious goal. I think that

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is key to fine those items for
what's in your heart, because that's going

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to help you get and move an
end direction that you want to be in.

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Also, I again focus on what's
in your head, you're focus and

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influence and then take action with your
body. But also find those find that

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group of people that are moving,
perhaps a little bit faster than you,

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that are moving and d direction that
you want to move, that you could

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also learn from. At the same
time, bring somebody with you, because

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guess what, we all are where
we are today because of the help that

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we've received at different points in time
in our life, and so therefore also

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help others grow because when you have
someone else grow, you grow at the

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same time. Wow, mal,
what a beautiful way to finish. Not

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surprising that you would share something like
that from that beautiful soul of yours.

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I thank you so much for being
my guest and sharing your heart and your

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soul with our listeners across the globe. I thank you, thank you,

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thank you for having me. I've
enjoyed it. It's been fun me too,

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so listeners. If you want to
learn more about mel Eric Mitchell,

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his book, or the work he
does developing talent and organizations, visit his

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website. It's drive influence dot com
again drive influence dot com last week.

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If you missed the live show,
you can always catch it recorded podcast we

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were on the air with Maria Fuller, who was on a complete terror to

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Empower Girls to Change the world.
We talked about the movement she has birthed,

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her podcast, and the unique empower
Girls she created herself. She shows

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just what you can do when you
are passionate about something. Let me tell

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you. Next week, we'll be
on the air with Paul Skinner. He's

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the author of Collaborative Advantage, How
collaboration beats competition as a strategy for success.

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Paul's also the founder of the Agency
of the Future and the creator of

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the social enterprise called Pimp My Cause. I promise you'll be inspired to run

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after your dreams and purpose when you're
listening to this conversation. See you're there,

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and remember that work is at least
one third of our lives. So

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let's work on purpose. We hope
you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure

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to tune in to Working on Purpose
featuring your host Alice Cortez, each week

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on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.
This week, find your life's purpose at work