Feb. 12, 2020

From Prostate Cancer to Passion and Purpose

From Prostate Cancer to Passion and Purpose

Passion and purpose often come from the most surprising places. Tom Hulsey found his passion to help serve others combatting cancer after the winning mindset he’d leaned on to perform Ironman competitions got him through his own bout with prostate...

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Passion and purpose often come from the most surprising places. Tom Hulsey found his passion to help serve others combatting cancer after the winning mindset he’d leaned on to perform Ironman competitions got him through his own bout with prostate cancer. In this episode, we talk about the parallels between cultivating an intentional mindset to support extreme physical endurance competitions and how it can also be leveraged to pursue your purpose. We are also quite purposefully evangelizing the cry for men to monitor their health and get screening for cancer. Men, we want you around and healthy!

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There are some people that make their
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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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I'm glad we're connected, and thanks for

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listening. Now onto this week's program
with us today is Tom Holsey, author

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multi iron man and a man who
is on his on his birthday in twenty

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fifteen, heard the dreaded words from
his doctor, you have cancer. He's

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the author of the winning mindset that
saved my life, as it turns out,

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and I wish I could tell you
I had the good sense and foresight

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to plan this. But we're having
this conversation on World Cancer Day. We'll

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be talking about his story of surviving
prostate cancer and the winning mindset he developed

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to combat it and has now dedicated
his life helping others battle cancer and those

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close to cancer patients. He joins
us here from my studio office right next

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to me. Tom, Welcome to
working on Purpose. It's an honor to

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be here. So great, So
let's just dig into. Let's just dive

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in, shall we. So let
us in on just how it felt to

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hear I guess it would be five
years ago those three dreaded words in February

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twenty fifteen, at the age of
sixty one. Answer. There were so

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many emotions that came flooding in.
It was fear, and I was just

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overwhelmed, and I was embarrassed.
I was ashamed. I almost felt like

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I was a fraud because people had
always viewed me as being very healthy and

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athletic, and here I am,
I have cancer, And again, just

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so many emotions, but I was
scared. Compounding that fact was that I

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had just witnessed one of my best
friends, Lucia's life to prostate cancer,

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So that just really compounded the fears
that I had. I can't even imagine

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what it would be like. And
part of the reason we're having this very

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conversation on air together is because,
as you and I discussed on the phone,

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men don't want to talk about cancer. And I want this program to

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always push the envelope on thought,
leadership, and presence important topics that really

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matter in life and affect our work
lives, and cancer is certainly one of

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them. That's great. Many issues
in life that are overwhelming, and I

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would say getting diagnosed with that cancer
is at the top of my list.

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And many of my friends and colleagues
that are part of what I call this

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reluctant brotherhood, we're not as fortunate
as I was. And part of the

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reason that is you just mentioned men
do not want to talk about it,

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but that's primarily because of the very
personal nature of prostate cancer and it's embarrassing.

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And because of that, prostate cancer
it does not get the does not

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get the attention that other cancers do. It's really it's not miss it's misunderstood

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and underfunded relative to other cancers.
And again that goes back to primarily men

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don't want to talk about it.
And I was a typical guy. It

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took me thirteen months before I finally
started sharing my story. That's so important.

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That's another reason I wanted to have
you on the show specifically, Tom

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because we've had many women on the
show talking about some of theirabouts with breast

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cancer and other things like that.
You're the first man that I've had come

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on the show to talk about your
about with cancer. So thank you.

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And just to kind of put those
numbers in perspective. In nine Africa,

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one in nine Caucasian and Hispanic men
will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in his

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lifetime. One in six African American
men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer in

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his lifetime. And to put those
numbers in perspective, According to the American

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Cancer Society, one in eight women
will be diagnosed with breast cancer in her

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lifetime, so the numbers are very
similar. A man dies every sixteen minutes

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in this country from prostate cancer.
Wow, that is incredibly sobering. Another

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reason I want to make sure I
share with you, Tom and our listeners

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that I wanted to have you on
the show is that what you went through

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to deal with your cancer, persevere
through it and the treatment is really akin

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to what we all go through in
life, just trying to get through obstacles,

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and certainly when we're pursuing our purpose. So there's some real interesting parallels

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here that I wanted to be able
to call forth because I want people to

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recognize that there are levers and roles
and things that they can use to be

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able to help them along their journey. So another reason that you're just such

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a great guest, You're welcome.
So a big part of what's also compelling

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to me too, is that you
are an eleven iron Man champion. And

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for those of you listeners who don't
know what an iron man is, it's

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an amazing sport. My ex husband
used to do these things as well.

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An iron man by definition is someone
who completes a two point four mile swim,

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one hundred and twelve mile bike ride
and then just jots down for a

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twenty six point two mile run,
but under seventeen hours is the deal.

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So what's interesting too about your story
is that you had been competing in iron

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Man competitions for years part of your
cancer. But when you got your cancer

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diagnosis, it destroyed your belief that
you could compete in any sport or event

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you chose to. What happened,
well, like I said earlier, it

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just you know, hit being here
with that diagnosis was and was something that

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was out of the blue. I
had never expected it. But when you

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compare it to I always like to
say, the iron Man is a metaphor

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for life. You're an iron Man
race, It's a long day, lots

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of ups and downs, and how
you deal with the adversity in that race

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very much parallels our everyday lives and
really those that mindset that it took that

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it takes to complete an iron Man
really helped me in my battle with cancer.

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After I was able to change turn
my mindset around well, and again

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that's another thing that I wanted to
be able to parallel for our listeners,

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who are many of the people that
listen to the show are either trying to

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discover their purpose, they're trying to
cultivate it, They're trying to do it

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for their team, They're trying to
become better leaders. And I think there's

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so much of what you've learned and
how to cultivate your mindset that we can

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poured over to those ventures too,
which is why I wanted to have you.

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So that mindset is interesting. So
you say in your book your success

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in sports as a young man helped
you create that mindset you had for the

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discipline and lifestyle required to train for
the iron Man. So I want to

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understand more about this mindset. Tell
us about how did you cultivate it well

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to do it. To do an
iron Man, you have to have you

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have to have that mindset. The
motto of the iron Man is anything as

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possible. And I cultivated that really
at a very young age. Was I

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was always very athletic. I had
my father as a role model and I

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was and as sports I was in
everything was about setting goals and achieving those

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goals, not always not always meeting
those goals, but it was always about

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setting goals and overcoming the obstacles that
they got in the way. I like

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to say that you know these setting
the goals gets you beyond those short term

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obstacles that you have. And I'll
talk a little bit more about that later

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and along along those lines before we
get into that, because there's a couple

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of things I do want you to
surface from your book. I think it's

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important that we actually define what we
mean by mindset. And so you say

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in your book that mindset for you
is an habitual or a characteristic mental attitude

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that determines how you will interpret and
respond to situations. And so then you

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further went on to say in your
book that perseverance, overcoming fear, and

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living intentionally comprise the key components of
a winning mindset. Say more about that,

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well, mindset really helps you get
through the circumstances when they are challenging.

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Mindset makes you a stronger person over
time. If your mindset is producing

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negative chatter, you must stop and
really redirect what's playing on your mind.

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And mindset really does the key to
overcoming many life challenges. And when I

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say mindset, having that positive or
winning or growth mindset as opposed to a

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fixed mindset. I totally understand that. I know Carrol Dewe's work, which

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is what you're referring to, doctor
Carrol Diwax. She talks about the growth

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versus fixed mindset. And I'll just
say simply quickly, I did the Dallas

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Running Clubs Half Marathon in November.
It was one of the best races I

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ever had, and I'll tell you
it was exactly because I had the best

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mindset. I played the best mindset
game that I probably ever played in a

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race. So I appreciate that tremendously. I like to say that, you

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know, people think that the Iron
Man is all physical, but to really

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get to to get through that long
day and getting to the finish line,

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I say, is sixty percent mental. And you have to want to get

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to that finish line because not only
is it physically challenging, but it's also

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mentally And that really does and again
so many parallels to that with my cancer

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journey. Absolutely. And one of
the other things that you said that I

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think is really important to talk about
here on the show is that you said,

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remember, I quote remember with mindset
to always look up and forward to

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what lizahead and beyond your current challenge, struggle, or goal. The right

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mindset takes courage and diligence. It
can help you step out of your comfort

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zone. Your mindset drives the choices
you make and the habits you create.

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So that thing about stepping out now, in your case in particular, you

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had a very important goal that you
were looking for on the other side of

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getting treatment, and that was your
daughter's wedding. Yes, that was really

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something that pulled you forward. It
was because when I again, when I

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was initially diagnosed, I was I
had a fixed mindset and I was pretty

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much ready to give up. But
then I was able to turn that mindset

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around. And one of the things
that helped get me through through my cancer

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journey and want to actually pursue that
the cancer treatment was to be able to

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walk my daughter down the aisle,
and that was ended up being fourteen months

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after Maya, after Maya, after
my surgery. That's amazing we have I

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can see here on the Facebook livestream. We have a couple of people here

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who can relate. I'll just say
the first name because you don't want your

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last name. Mark. Thank you
so much for joining us. I know

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you can relate very very very dearly
to this conversation. Let me also recognize

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what Debbie Rayzik said. She says, at least when you're finish finished with

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the show today, give Tom Hosey
a hug for me. You you are

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awesome. How's that? So already
right? You're making a difference. Good

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stuff. Thank you for joining us. We really appreciate it. All right,

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So next I want to I want
to ask you know, over the

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years, you've done eleven iron Man's
Tom, which is really really impressive,

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But how did you intentionally mold your
mindset for training for and performing in Iron

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Man's and then later battling cancer.
Well, going back to your question earlier

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about my success during my youth really
helped me create and mold that mindset that

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I needed for the discipline and the
last style required to train for train for

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an iron Man and then subsequently my
cancer battle. Again, I was repeating

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myself here with mindset really does hold
the key to overcoming life challenges. So

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let me present something for you and
for my listeners. So I'm going to

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ask for your advice on air.
How's this in early June of this year,

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So in just about four months or
so, I will be doing my

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first ever long distance adventure race and
it's two hundred kilometers in Bhutan, which

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is a country between India and China. And over the course of six days

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or stages, we're going to cover
two hundred kilometers and that is going to

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be trail running through the rainforest and
the villages. And I know that's it's

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a hugely physical endeavor, but I
do believe that it's at least sixty five

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to seventy percent mind. Yes it
is. Give it, Timmy. What

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do you got for me? And
what do I need to do besides drop

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out? Well, no, you
don't want to do that, as you've

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got to believe in yourself. And
as I said, the model that I

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very much, if not more mental
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to be a challenge for you know, no question about it. But if

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you have that, you have that
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Well, you know it's worked for
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a really good looking man and then
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There you go, incentive, It's
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And with that, let's maker first
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We've go on the year with Tom
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Winning Mindset That Saved My Life.
A cancer conqueror, having survived prostate cancer,

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he now dedicates his life to helping
others through philanthropy. We've been talking

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a bit about his mindset and some
of the Ironman's and training that he went

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of the mindset tools that he has
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you want in life. Stay with
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Now back to working on purpose. Thanks

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for staying with us, and welcome
back to working on purpose. If you're

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just joining us. My guest is
Tom Holsey in eleven time iron Man Finisher.

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He's the author of the winning mindset
that saved my life. He joins

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me today. He joins us today
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Right next to me. I'm your
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next segment here Tom, I want
to zero in on some some tools that

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we can actually leave our listeners with. One of the things that's important for

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me when I host the shows,
that people can actually walk away with something

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immediately and put it to use.
So first, if you would, you

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already gave me a little bit of
coaching. Now you're also a hockey coach.

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I was a hockey coach. Okay, so I am and you have

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some great stories in your book about
some of the impact that you had with

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people that you worked with, So
could you share with us a couple more

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ways being what we've already said to
me of how we can develop an intentional

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mindset, Well, the first thing
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perspective, is you got to set
goals. Goals give you structure for an

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intentional game plan. Goals when you
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take intentional actions. You can ask
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you closer to or further away from
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you focused. Having an intentional lifestyle
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society. A healthy lifestyle requires commitment, and I love this anonymous quote in

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a world that profits from chronic disease, taking care of your body is a

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rebellious act. That is great.
That is great, That is so true.

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But being intentional for me post cancer
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reasons. One is I had very
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battle, and I also I was
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cause it was making a positive impact
on society, and today I'm motivated to

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be intentional because I know that I'm
helping provide hope and inspiration to other cancer

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patients around the world. Let me
just take a second to grab what you

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just did there, because and my
work as a logo therapist, which is

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Victor Frankels who are in existential psychology, logo therapy is really a way to

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be able to presence and cultivate more
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greatest motivator that we have. And
one of the things that we can do

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to cultivate that is we can look
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pull us outside of ourselves because we're
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somebody else. And we can actually
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that. So that's what you're talking
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and it works. I promise it
works to me. There's nothing more gratifying

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in life than making an impact on
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one sentence on Jackie Robinson's tombstone that
I've embraced it and it says so much.

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impact it has on other lives.
Absolutely agree, Absolutely agree. Okay,

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so let's nice talk about perseverance.
That's you've got a chapter dedicated to perseverance

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and that I love that that whole
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to grit, it's related to effort, it's related to commitment. So you

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comes from having the faith and tenacity
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pay off for anyone who wants to
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with that. And you go on
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you always train for adversity. I
thought that was spectacular. So people who

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listen to this program are often trying
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start a business, go for their
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the next level. So how can
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and train for adversity with whatever we
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I mentioned a minute ago. Setting
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first step. When you do this, at those times when you are discouraged,

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you feel like giving up, you
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When the situation looks bleak, remember
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and visualize what you were trying to
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in your book, Tom where you
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your actual process of going through surgery. But there's a place in there where

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the nurse ask you how you're doing, or you ask how she's doing,

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and she says better than you,
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mean, wow. So but you
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like what prepared in your mind for
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I had prepared perversity, but in
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I really was not prepared for that
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as I was getting ready to go
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to admit it through me for a
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times I really had to focus and
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so that might have been an off
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let's hope. Anyway, Now,
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this, really, this is such
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for us to all draw from when
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is that we have to look for
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absolutely do. You know, I
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known me for a while know that
almost exactly a year ago, both of

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my parents passed away twenty eight days
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she had lost the will to live. She was like, give me the

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exit key, I'm ready. My
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a broken heart. But that thing
about persevering, looking for something to pull

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us is so important, and for
you, it was making sure that you

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could see marrying off your daughter in
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weeks before your iron Man Lake Placid. So presents for us give us more

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access. How can we look for
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as you mentioned alluded to a second
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It's it's a trait that many people
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find it hard to accomplish. But
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keeps you focused for that goal,
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and fulfillment. And I don't mean
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had those really bad days just like
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I had to fight for that perseverance. Having short term, intermediate and

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long term goals really helped me persevere
though through my cancer journey. And I

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love coach Vince Lombardi's quote. I've
quote him several times in the book,

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but one in particular when it comes
to perseverance, it's not whether you get

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knockdown, but it's whether you get
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in The Iron Man, you're going
to get knocked down, and same thing

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in life. You're going to get
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back up or not, that's the
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I've done this radio show hosting that
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Your I think number episode number two
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not, it's amazing. It's a
it's a it's a mechanism for me to

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continue catalyzing my own learning and growth
and development. So I've had a lot

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of conversations over these years that have
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motivation is very interesting for some people. I mean, there have been times

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in my life when I've gotten a
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I'm going to prove somebody wrong that
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I will do this. You say
I can't do it, watch me.

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where like you're drawing from motivation to
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off. You're around for that,
So that's pulling you forward, and that's

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a that's that's from love and being
wanted to be present. You know.

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I've known many people who talk about
and I've been one of them too,

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like I'm going to just keep working
as hard as again because I'm afraid i

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might fail if I don't. So
there's so many different ways we can pull

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from or pull on to be able
to draw this perseverance. And I want

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to presence that for our listeners,
because it's not a one size fits all

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kind of a deal. That's right. Yeah, anything else you want to

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say about that before you go on
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Okay, all right, so you
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intentional already, but I think it
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this notion that the choices we talk
about one foot after the other. One

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of the things that I learned from
Jeff Hayden, who had on the radio

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show a couple of years ago,
he wrote the Motivation Myth. He talks

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about how really successful people, what
makes what differentials differentiates them from the rest

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of us, is that they literally
make sure that every day they put forth

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something that's moving them down the road. And it's that knowing that they've done

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something that actually creates the sense of
motivation, that and momentum that carries and

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stokes their motivation. And I think
that's really interesting and worth presencing for our

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listeners as well. Thoughts on that
well. One of the life one of

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the life lessons that I've always taught
young people, especially in their twenties and

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thirties, is that you need to
be intentional in your life. This is

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a foundation really for the rest of
your life, and then the decisions you

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make daily during this period, good
or bad, will carry you forward the

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rest of your life, especially decisions
regarding your health. Set goals is very

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important, and I like to set
small goals because when you set small goals,

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you will achieve more in the long
run. That momentum carries you Yes,

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I've done something, Yes I can
do it, I'm moving yep.

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people have these grandiose New Year's resolutions,

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but they're just so they're almost unattainable, and then they give up. But

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you've got to set small goals to
achieve to get to that well. And

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this is where I'll admit that I'm
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the Gallop Strengths Finder, there's thirty
four talent themes. My number one is

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achiever, which means you can find
me completely guilty of. When I first

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GetUp the morning, I make my
list for the day what I'm going to

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do. I do put on that
list the things I've already done that day

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so that I can actually them off
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it gives me that chult that I
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of like that. Okay, So
another chapter in your book, which is

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so so important to talk about it, especially as we translate this over to

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going for a purpose, going for
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whatever it is, and that is
that four letter word fear. Overcoming

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fear is the chapter. So I
really appreciate that you say in your book

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that your struggle with your fear of
having cancer made you a stronger person and

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led you to a calling to help
others face the same battle. So that's

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a twofold interest for me here.
So to overcome fear, you must first

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acknowledge it, but not focus on
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my previous guests on my radio show, Rachel Stewart, has a fantastic way

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of addressing this really quick. She
talks about how if you're doing anything in

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life, fear is going to be
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to acknowledge. Yep, it's sitting
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Here's the deal, though, that
fear doesn't get to do any driving,

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doesn't even get to change the channels
on the radio station, doesn't get to

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weigh in on the direction of where
we're going with the car. It just

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has to sit in the back seat
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But the fact that you're saying something
similar. Fear is going to be

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there, but you just can't focus
on it. That's right. If I

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had not overtaken my fear of defeat
by cancer and losing my life, I

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wouldn't be sitting here right now.
Learning to deal with fear means more,

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means putting your negative thought in perspective. Negative thoughts, I should say,

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failure, or the curveballs that I
call it in life, are a part

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of the process, and you shouldn't
be afraid of them. Change the way

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you view failure. Use it as
an opportunity to learn from your mistakes.

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Learn to accept challenges. If you
are going to succeed at anything, there

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will be challenges and sometimes failure.
We tend to focus too much on the

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negative. I realized that by looking
at all the options, I could respond

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differently to my concerns and my fears. Articulate the positive outcomes to your fear.

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For me, my positive outcome was
beating cancer and walking my daughter down

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the aisle so I think what I
want to say too about fear for our

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listeners, and frankly to remind myself, is it's a powerful emotion. It's

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useful, and so if we can
if we can direct it so that we

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can derive the benefits of the of
the energy that comes from fear, I

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think that's the opportunity. Yeah,
yep, so we talked about this before,

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but I do appreciate this so much, and this is good for for

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what our listeners can take from you
too. But you've been a beloved hockey

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coach for years and touched hundreds,
if not maybe thousands of lives, and

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so one of the coaches created that
rules that you live by is share a

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few of your I want I want
you to share a few of your most

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favorite rules to live by as a
coach. I wrote one coach has creed

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several years ago, and I actually
have it outlined in the book. But

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two of the points that that I
really like and live by. One is

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by helping others to do their best
and attain their goals, I help myself.

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The second one is I will never
forget how I got to where I

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am today. So I know that
Mark Noble is listening here, he's on

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the Facebook live stream. I know
that that he would absolutely agree with that

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approach. He's a great coach himself, and that is absolutely how he walks

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his life as well. So echo
that well is a coach a sport and

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no, he is an executive coach, and he does work with inside organizations,

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et cetera. But that would be
exactly a mindset that he would he

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would employ. All right, so
let's grab our last break. I'm Elie

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Cortez, your host. We've been
on the here with Tom Halsey, who

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is the author of The Winning Mindset
That Saved My life. A cancer conqueror,

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having survived prostate cancer, he now
dedicates his life to helping others through

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philanthropy. After the break, we're
going to talk about his actual journey through

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and treatment of cancer and what he's
up to today to serve others. Stay

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with us, we'll be right back. Alice Cortes is a speaker and engagement

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and development catalyst. She designs and
delivers professional development, leadership and engagement workshops

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and can bring her expertise to your
organization. She will help ignite meaningful development

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within your workforce that will increase employee
engagement, performance and retention. To learn

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more or to invite Elise to speak
to your organization, please visit her at

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www dot Elisecortes dot com. She
would welcome the opportunity to help get your

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employees working on purpose. This is
working on Purpose with Elise Cortes. To

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reach our program today, send an
email to a lease Alise at Aleasecortes dot

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com. Now back to working on
purpose. Thanks for staying with us,

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00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.880
and welcome back to working on purpose. If you're just tuning in, My

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guest is Tomhosey in eleven Time Iron
and Finisher. He's the author of The

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Winning Mindset That Saved My life.
Having survived prostate cancer, he now dedicates

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his life to helping others through philanthropy. He joins me today from my office

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studio here in Dallas. I'm your
host at Last Cortes. So for this

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last segment, we want to get
into really what it was like for you

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to go through your treatment, Tom, and also really understand how you've really

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developed some passion of your new passion
and purpose on the other side. So

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first let's talk about the chapter that
you have, which is know your Option.

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So I want to talk about the
importance of monitoring your overall health and

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opting in for the screenings. I
know a lot of men, especially,

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they don't want to do the screening. So part of what you credit to

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00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:43.039
your own through rivel was early detection. And as I've had guests on talking

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about how to help women detect and
deal with breast cancer, let's talk about

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what men can do to stay in
front of prostate cancer. Well, you

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have to be proactive with your health, and is what you said a second

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ago is so true. Many men
don't want to deal with it. But

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the key to my surviving though,
was was the early detection. Of course

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it's not really with really any cancer, but early detection is key and it's

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a very simple PSA blood test.
I encourage men to UH to get checked,

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you know, annually, especially after
they after the beyond forty. It

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should be checked on an annual basis
UH to see if if there's if there's

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trending up or not. The widow
of my friend who lost his life to

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prostate cancer will tell you that,
like me, he was very proactive with

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his health and very active, but
he skipped a year and getting his PSA

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checked and that's what ultimately killed him
because the uh, the cancer got outside

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of the out of the prostate and
uh. And so again my message to

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men is he's really creating an awareness
and being proactive with all your health issues

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and talk about it. You know. One thing I'd also say too,

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is I know a lot of men
really have a problem with with the rectal

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exam, right, I mean,
it's it's really not that bad, and

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it's it's pretty quick. Well,
it's it's it's it is quick. Yeah,

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it's not the most comfortable thing in
the world, but it beats the

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alternative absolutely. But when I'm talking
about the p S A test, so

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that's strictly bo and and that's the
first first thing to do or you should

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be doing on a regular basis.
It's there's nothing invasive about a blood test.

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It's a simple Well you get a
prick in the arm, but that

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sounds bad, Okay, anything else
you want to say that a well,

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no, that's that's the main thing
is early detection is is is key in

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in the battle against any cancer.
Okay, well, and let's let's talk

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about your your cancer. So I
want to hear about your actual treatment for

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the cancer and how you ultimately beat
it. What did you go through?

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Well, after I was diagnosed,
I did a lot of a lot of

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due diligence because there's different ways to
treat prostate cancer. There there are side

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effects to uh which whatever, uh
whatever, the course of action is determined.

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But uh but after doing my due
diligence, interviewing experts in different ways

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to treat prostate cancer, I elected
to have my prostate removed. Part of

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the thinking was I just wanted to
get the cancer out of my body and

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the and the quickest way and the
fact that it was it was it was

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caught early, the cancer was contained
within the prostate. So I just had

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had my prostate removed. So we're
talking one surgery once, yes, uh

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huh wow. But that one surgery, though, is uh is really tough.

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I mean, you had seven incisions
across my mid section and uh,

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it's it's it's hard. But one
of the things I did though, when

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I went in, when I was
getting ready for my surgery, though,

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is I prepared like it was getting
ready for an iron man. I wanted

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to be in the best physical shape
that I could be and to help the

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recovery process and all because it's it's
it's a really tough surgery. I had

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pictures when I was in the hospital
getting around in a walker and wearing a

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couple of catheters, so it was
hard. And then you talk about in

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your book, how not long after
your surgery you did with not an iron

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Man something else. Well, I
set goals for myself. I we've talked

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about the long term goals of the
iron Man and walking my daughter down the

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aisle, but I also had a
short term goal and an intermediate goal.

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My short term goal was to go
on a trip with the North Texas Crime

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Commission on a mission trip to the
state of Washington to visit Microsoft and Amazon

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and other companies up there. And
that was just three and a half weeks

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after my diagnosis, and that was
hard. But my biggest goal, or

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most gratifying goal, was exactly six
months later, I did a half iron

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Man in Austin. And so to
go from getting around in a walker to

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crossing the finish line of the half
iron Man was that was that was a

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really neat, neat feeling. To
be able to do that. That's amazing

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because basically the training for that I
had to start at ground zero. If

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you will because it because I lost
all my fitness and all through the surgery

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and all and inactivity. Well another
thing that I find really interesting. And

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again, listeners, this is a
place people often ask me, you know,

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at least, how do I discover
my purpose? One way to discover

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our purpose is to deal with what
we've had deal with and share what we've

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learned by going through our own trials
and tribulations. And so one of the

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things I want to celebrate about you, Tom have you share about is your

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journey created a passion in you to
help others battle cancer. So you really

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got a new found purpose through this
pain. I did. I As I

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mentioned earlier, I was I was
a typical guy when I was first diagnosed,

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and I kept everything inside and I
was very isolated. And it took

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me thirteen months after my diagnosis before
I finally went public and started sharing my

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story with people. And that was
through with the encouragement of my wife said

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wanted to write a blog. If
you if you impact one person's life in

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this world, think how that would
make you feel. And the first response

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00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:22.840
back I got was from a guy
in New Zealand. I had given him

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00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.800
hope and inspiration and then it just
it just kind of went from there and

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and all of a sudden, this
became something bigger than me. I was

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you know, it was really you
know, I was helping other people,

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but at the time, I wasn't
trying to make a difference or make an

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impact in the world at the time. At that time, I was just

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very therapeutic for me to finally shit, get it out there and share my

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share my story. So it was
again, it helped me so much in

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my recovery. But through that,
I recognized that my efforts were positively impacting

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people, and I really did develop
a pack to help those and I feel

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00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:08.840
very honored that I have a mission
now to help others. So one of

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the things that I help people in
my programs understand is that there's three three

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ways that we can find meaning across
our lives. One is through what we

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give of ourselves to the world,
and I call that our passion. That

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00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.960
is what we're giving of ourselves uniquely
to the world. That's what you're talking

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about. Now. There's something about
that giving of that gives an energy to

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us in the expression of that purpose
or that passion. The second way that

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we can find meaning is through encounters
or experiences that we enjoy or that are

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valuable to us. And so I
call that inspiration. That is what inspires

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breath on our lungs and gives us
energy. And we need that too,

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So you're doing that for other people
by doing the work that you're doing.

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The third way that we can find
meaning in our lives is through the attitudinal

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stance that we take against anything we
face, and your case, the attitude

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that you assume, which is part
of your mindset that I'm going to beat

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00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.039
this, I'm going to work through
this. I'm going to apply my very

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best mental and physical game, and
I'm going to rally all my support in

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my troops, and I'm going to
get through that. That is that was

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the attitudal stance that you took,
and there's meaning in that and that meaning,

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00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.320
remember, is the ultimate motivator in
life. Listeners, And so you

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know when we talk about now you've
got this new passion journey, one of

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the things that you say in your
book is that you were given a zero

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wristband by your surgeon after the surgery. So I want you to talk about

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what does this zero organization do and
the movement that it stands to accomplish.

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Well, let me say this.
Of course the listeners can't can't see this

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that I have Facebook can But I
have a blue wristband on right now.

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I've never taken it off. It
was given to me by the nurse the

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nurses the day of my surgery and
what it says zero the end of prostate

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cancer. And at the time I
just thought it was a cool looking risk

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band. I had no idea who
Zero was. But I will continue to

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wear it and I've never taken it
off. This is a constant reminder of

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to where where I've been and what
I'm representing today. UH but Zero is

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a nonprofit UH national organization that's dedicated
to finding a cure for for prostate cancer

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by furthering research and providing support to
UH prostate cancer victims and their families and

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just creating awareness. And I've I've
embraced UH their their mission. And but

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00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:35.280
when I before, I before I
did really kind of sign up to be

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with Zero. I did a lot
of due diligence. And one of the

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things that that H that I really
was impressed by was their financial performance metrics.

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They were very high. As you
hear a lot of there's a lot

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of philanthropic organizations that have gotten in
trouble, you know, with how they

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how they allocate their money. But
but Zero's stewards their resources very carefully.

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00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.719
And uh uh again, I'm very
honored and humbled to be able to represent

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Zero well. And so now what
we're getting into is your philanthropic journey.

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So another thing that I want to
talk about is that you were asked to

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join the board of the Dallas s
based nonprofit Mary Crowley Cancer Research. So

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00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.760
what's the mission of this organization and
why are you so passionate about working on

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00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:25.400
their board? Well, first of
all, Mary Crowley founded Mary Crowley Cancer

580
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:34.400
Research back in nineteen ninety seven due
to her fundamental belief that cancer patients needed

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00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:42.760
access to better cancer treatments. And
the mission of Mary Crowley is to give

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00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.639
is to give cancer patients hope if
you will. In fact, their tagline

583
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:52.239
is Hope Lives Here. And this
is for all cancers. It's not just

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00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:59.280
prostate cancer, breast cancer, but
it's all cancers. But anyway, Hope

585
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.639
Lives Here. And I'm again very
honored to be representing them. And they're

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00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:08.639
they're based right here in Dallas,
trying to create more awareness out there in

587
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:15.400
the market for Mary Crowley, but
again just so honored to be able to

588
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.400
represent them, to be on their
board. So another thing that I want

589
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:23.039
to call out for our listeners here, as I always try to echo and

590
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:27.519
the teachings that I hear from my
guests, is when you can when you

591
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.000
can align yourself with something bigger than
yourself, it CAUs bigger than yourself,

592
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:37.480
an organization bigger than yourself. You
become bigger in that connection. And that's

593
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.159
that's definitely something I would recommend to
anyone. It does help us persevere,

594
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.800
It does give us something more to
work to live for, It gives us

595
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.239
that ability to self transcend. So
what you're doing is magnificent, and you're

596
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:54.840
helping to expand her, execute her
mission and do more good in the world.

597
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.639
So I appreciate that we're getting close
to the end of the show here,

598
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.000
but what I want to what I
want to get to here is since

599
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I haven't ever had to deal with
cancer, thank you very much, I

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can't possibly fathom what you've gone through
on or before the side of cancer and

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after. Can you paint a picture
for us, Tom, who were you

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before cancer, and now who are
you after? Well, First of all,

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my success as an athlete gave me
a false sense of invincibility, if

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you will, and again it was
it was very It was very humbling to

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get this cancer diagnosis, but I
was, but I almost had what I

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would call it an arrogant mindset because
of that invincibility. But the cancer has

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really humbled me and and surely changed
me too. Being a survivor or conqueror

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as I like to say, has
really given me a wonderful perspective on life.

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My journey has created a passion to
me to help others battling cancer,

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and like I said, including their
families and all. But lesson learned as

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I may a few minutes ago,
there's nothing more gratifying in life than making

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a difference in people's lives and paying
it forward. And I really have grown

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to appreciate the value of serving a
cause greater than my own self interest and

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really making a positive impact on humankind. I really appreciate that for my listeners

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who heard me say this before.
I have a lot of urgency in my

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life to really execute on my purpose
too, and my vision tom is to

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touch and make a difference in one
million lives before I'm dropped into the ground,

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or as somebody said today, I
get my wings before I get my

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wings, and so that's something.
There's something about that. It gets me

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out of bed every day. It
gives me something to live for, and

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I do want to be of service
to my purpose. So I really appreciate

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what you're doing on this show.
I always like to give my guests the

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last words, so you know,
this show is really about helping to presence

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meaning passionate inspiration and purpose is designed
to equip leader across the globe to help

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their teams enjoy their work more and
be more fulfilled. What would you like

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to leave our listeners with today?
Take things less seriously, try to keep

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perspective and understand that no matter what
struggles you're going through, you will get

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through them. They are not as
bad as they seem, and you're stronger

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than you think. I still have
to remind myself of this though, on

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a daily basis. But lastly,
remember this is my tagline. Life is

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not a spectator sport. I so
agree with that. I so agree with

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that. Tom Well. I want
to thank you for coming and sharing your

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experience, your wisdom, your heart
with us. It was very evident that

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all of that was here. Thank
you very much for that. Well,

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it's very again. I'm so honored
to be here and I really do appreciate

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it. I appreciate the platform to
share my story. You're welcome, and

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we need to give a shout out
to who introduced us. That's just mccorkyl

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here in Dallas. He's the one
that connected us justin rock Star find Thank

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you very much for that. So
listeners, if you want to learn more

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about Tom, his philanthropy or his
book, the easiest way to find to

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miss his website. It's just simply
Tomholsey dot com. Let me spell that

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for you. It's Tom T O
M and then Holsey h U L S

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E Y so Tomholsey dot com.
Last week, if you missed the live

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show, you can always catch it
be recorded podcast. We were on the

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air with Kathy Rawlings and Terry Spears
talking about their book The Inner Journey.

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Next week we'll be on air with
Ellen keithline Byrne talking about her lifelong passion

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in pursuit to develop leadership in women
and why women are so critical in leadership

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roles today. See you there.
Remember that work is at least a third

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of our life, So let's work
on purpose. Well, you hope you've

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enjoyed this week's program. Be sure
to tune in to Working on Purpose featuring

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your host Alis Cortes, each week
on the Voice America Empowerment Chat. This

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week, find your life's purpose at
work.