Feb. 10, 2021

For the Love of Learning: Continuing Education as a Way of Life

For the Love of Learning: Continuing Education as a Way of Life

It is hard to argue in today’s fluid workplace against the need for ongoing learning and development, constantly gaining new skills and stoking the ability to innovate and handle change. Some organizations are masters at providing professional...

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It is hard to argue in today’s fluid workplace against the need for ongoing learning and development, constantly gaining new skills and stoking the ability to innovate and handle change. Some organizations are masters at providing professional development opportunities better that offer various ways to consume the content to maximize the learning experience and application ideas. This episode showcases how Cornerstone League stayed agile during the COVID pandemic to innovate novel ways to engage members with fresh content created from evolving societal and workplace needs for a vibrant learning environment for all.

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be

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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want

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Working on Purpose now. Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome

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back to the Working on Purpose Program. Thanks for tuning in again this week.

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I'm your host, Doctor Relee's Cortest. You live from Dallas, Texas,

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which is home base for me by
Way Production. I'm a managed by

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consultant specializing in meaning and purpose and
organizational logotherapists, inspirational speaker, social scientist,

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and author. You can learn more
about me at my two websites at

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leastcore test dot com or gustoshnow dot
com. Before we get into the program,

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we have to thank our partner and
sponsor for this program. It's Cornerstein

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Cornerstone League and its subsidiaries, which
is Cornerstone Resources and Cornerstone Foundation, which

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serve approximately four hundred and fifty credit
union members across Arkansas, Oklahoma, and

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Texas. One of the things we
want to call out about that is that

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they have a major twenty twenty one
initiative for Cornerstone League. It's called a

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consumer Awareness initiative, and it's actually
referred to as open your Eyes to a

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Credit Union to join effort with CEO
Awareness LLC, whose goal is to increase

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consumer consideration of credit unions and contributors
to the campaign and join and enhanced listing

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on your money further dot com access
to customizable marketing materials, and so much

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more. You can learn more about
them if you go to this short website.

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It's Kuna dot org forward slash Awareness. So Kuna is seeing you in

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a dot org slash awareness. Now
on this week's program with us today,

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I have two favorite friends, Tamar
Gaines and Amber Mainley of Corners and Credit

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Union. We'll be talking about the
importance of innovation and shifting, inspiring and

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motivating our team, and the importance
of continued education. Join us today from

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Dallas, Texas. Amber and Tamra
Welcome to being on the other side of

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the mic. Welcome to working on
Purpose. Thank you so much for having

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us, Sally, thank you so
much. Absolutely, we have been conspiring,

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the three of us together for years
creating content, and it's such a

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privilege to get to collaborate with both
of you, and now we get to

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talk about some of the cool things
that you're up to, and I'm so

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happy to do that with you.
And for our listeners who haven't had the

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privilege of working with you as I
have, I think it makes sense for

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us to talk a little bit about
your background. So we have the love

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the three of us of education,
professional development, training and gathering people together

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to make it all happen. So
would you each just say a bit about

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your backgrounds and why you are such
a committed professional development professional. Why this

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space? Why aren't we in accounting
or marketing? Why this So? I've

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been in the credit union industry for
close to ten years now, and I

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always say that I grew up in
the credit union industry. I started relatively

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young. I found my passion when
I became a trainer and I used to

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train incoming member service representatives, and
all of a sudden, I had this

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classroom full of twelve to fifteen people
staring at me. You have this ability

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to inspire people to do something that
they love to do, something that you're

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passionate about. I was passionate about
the credit union movement, so I had

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this ability to teach them about what
credit unions were about and ignite their fire

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to see their potential. You know, there was something in my life that

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I was always thankful for as the
people that were all to see the potential

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in me when I didn't see it
myself and not something that I'm really passionate

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about. So it led me into
the professional development arena. I believe so

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firmly in the value of continued education
regardless of where you're at in your life,

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and I just love being able to
provide those educational opportunities so that people

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can continue their growth and see their
potential and you know, pave their pathway.

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Awesome. I love it really quick. I just have to say,

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and I just got this as you
were talking, passion is a vehicle.

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It is a delivery vehicle. Right, beautiful, very much, Tamra.

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What about you? Absolutely so.
I've been with the Cornerstone League for eight

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years, but my experience in leadership
and working has gone much longer than that.

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I haven't been in education and training
to the same degree that Amber has.

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But I plugged into my own professional
development very early in life. And

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I was thinking back to the story
of I was twenty two. I was

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on the plane coming back from accepting
a sales position. I was flying back

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from Colorado, but the sales position
was in Dallas, and I was gung

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ho. I was talking to the
man next to me. I had to

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have been twenty twenty one, and
he was sweet, and he was helping

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to coach me on the value of
being a good leader, and it involved

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transparency, and it involves being a
good communicator. And he was telling me

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about a book. His favorite author
is Augmentino, and he invited me to

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stop by his office at some point
and pick up the book The Greatest Salesman

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in the World, And so I
did eventually. This was back before GPS,

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and so you know, I got
my rand McNally matsco out and found

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my way found my way to his
office, and that really propelled be to

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start digging into my own self development. And from that it was really my

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opportunity to just learn and to grow, and that has helped to kind of

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propel me and everything that I've been
doing. So as we talk here about

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the value of investing in yourself and
investing in your teams, it does impact

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the bottom line, but it's really
about how are you creating change in people?

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So in my twenty five years of
being with associations or corporations and such,

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that's really the thing that I try
to hone in on, is how

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can I bring value to people?
So, I mean, what a great

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start you see, ladies, gentlemen. Why I had hav them on the

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show. This is such a You
convey so much passion and of course I'm

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ver a love your word at night
because it's in my book title. But

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yes, igniting passion and learning and
others and change and development and helping them

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become who they can become, which
is just a glorious thing to get to

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witness. And it started us.
I think we began working together, and

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I think it was twenty fifteen that
you hired me for that first conference to

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speak at and I learned more about
Cornerstone Credit Union. But for our listeners

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and viewers who don't know anything about
your organization, help them understand who you

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are and who you serve. So
we are actually the League, So Cornerstone

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League is the member driven trade association
for credit unions mentioned earlier. Our credit

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unions are in Arkansas, Oklahoma,
and Texas. We have a primary focus

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to advocate, educate, and communicate
for and on behalf of our members.

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Credit unions themselves are the financial institutions. They're owned by the member. They

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use the money that you and other
members deposit to make loans. And since

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the credit union's main goal is to
serve their members, at the end of

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the year, they're taking those residuals
and instead of it going to shareholders you

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know for profit banks, if you
will, it goes back to the members

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in either product services, better interest
rates, and that sort of thing.

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And then Amber and I we're part
of the experience team at the League,

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and again our focus is the education
piece, and we provide training and professional

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development to the staff at credit unions
within our region and across the country.

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You know what I want to say
really quick here that I learned that as

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I've gotten to work with you over
the years, and that I really really

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so appreciated. Last week we had
Dan Berger on the show, who's president

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and CEO of NAVCU and talking about
really his role with credit unions, and

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so what I've gotten present too is
just how beautifully that you integrate and support

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and lift your communities. I just
want to call that out as such a

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gorgeous contribution and talking about you know, living with passion, working on a

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purpose and having meaning and what you're
doing. I just really want to call

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that is what I really appreciated about
getting to know you and working with you.

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Well, thank you, Yeah,
And can you believe that it has

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gone back to twenty fifteen and all
that we've been able to do together and

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having you come in and speak to
our women's leadership conference, in various leadership

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events and some new projects. And
I think we're going to talk about day

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we are. We are, darn
it, And I do want to start

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my presencing just kind of how we're
how and when we're having this conversation here

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here it is early February twenty twenty
one, so we're almost a full year

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into this COVID nineteen pandemic. And
one of the things that we've wanted to

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talk about together, the three of
us, is just really this notion of

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how it's really encouraged some innovative measures
and how you support your members and specifically

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what you've done virtually. So if
you can just start by presencing that and

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kind of where that came from and
where that shift happened from, sure,

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I'll start for just a little bit
and then really send it over to Amber,

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because she did a lot of the
heavy lifting. But you know,

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days before we got the executive order
to stay at home, and before we

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even made the decision as an office
to stay at home, I was already

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on the phone talking to you know, hotels that we had contracts with,

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and so working to kind of unravel
you know, we book some of our

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events two three years in advance,
and we start planning nine to twelve months

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in advance, and so here we
were having to undo months and years of

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work that had that had gone in. And yes, yes, so it

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is. It was a little you
know, we were mourning, and but

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you know, rallied the team.
I think as the leader that was really

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you know, one of my main
focuses was, you know, how do

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we protect ourselves legally? What do
we need to do, what are the

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action steps? How do we rally
the team? We're in this time of

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such uncertainty. Nobody knows what's going
on. I mean not just us,

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the world. Nobody knows what's going
on or how long it's going to last.

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So let's just do the best that
we can as we go through that.

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Amber had been on board about six
months, so think she brought all

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of the experience that she had in
education because we put it to the test

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right away. So Amber, why
don't you share a little bit more about

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some of the steps that we took. Yeah, we shifted to all things

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Zoom related really pretty quickly, and
we created a lot of educational opportunities for

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our members at that point in time, and we had so many people who

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were confused. I mean I can
attest to that. I almost everybody that

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I know and me personally, you
go through such a stage of confusion.

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There's worry, there's concern, and
we really wanted to be able to help

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ease our members' minds by providing them
with those educational opportunities and the more information

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that you can get out to people
to kind of help them understand and go

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through this guide them through this pandemic, that's what we wanted to be able

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to provide. So we started virtual
roundtables, getting subject matter experts on things

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like employment law, a very hot
topic during the pandemic, and just allowing

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our members to listen in and be
able to digest that information so that they

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had a place to go. They
knew that they could come to us,

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They knew they had the ability to
get their education and feel at ease,

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feel better about the conversations that they
were having. On the other side,

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we also decided to go forward with
our first virtual conference and that was a

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fun experience. I definitely have to
say we as a team, every single

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one of us did such a huge
took such a huge part in that and

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to make it a success, and
we were able to do a production studio.

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Our members loved it. We were
going to we were going to be

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able to give them the content that
we normally give them at the Leadership Conference,

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just in a different way, and
that was exciting. It was again,

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it was a really big learning experience
for everyone, both members and us.

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But we did it, and we
shifted and we did it as a

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team. What I liked about that
amber is that we were able to reach

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more people, so you know,
we were able to expand beyond the cornerstone

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region and had people attending from thirty
three states exactly. Yeah, that's amazing.

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Yeah, that is something that I've
heard over and over again in the

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pandemic way when you've gone and you
created content and you've placed it virtually,

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that you do have greater reach,
greater access. So I'm thrilled because you

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would normally serve three states, right
and right, that's your normal. Yeah,

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so three thirty three is huge.
Definitely. Wow. Okay, and

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then one of the other things that
you did that I was so happy to

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learn about and get to support and
be part of, of course, is

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see you lead three sixty program,
and I know how you and your team

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put a ton of work to bring
that to life into fruition for your members

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and also short amount of time.
So can you say a little something about

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that program and maybe how was it
different or is it different from your conference?

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So I'll quickly say that, see
you lead three sixties the whole reason

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why I was able to get Amber
hired and to start going down that path.

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So some might say that was the
best decision that I ever made.

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I knew that we needed to create
an online leadership platform to develop content and

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opportunities for people kind of where they
are and where they want to go in

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their leadership journey. And I knew
that we wanted it to be custom for

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them to help them. And so
with that, I knew I didn't have

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the skill sets for it. And
that's where Amber comes in. So Amber,

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won't you talk a little bit more
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lease for I. Thank care of
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each leader can take something that was
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had their areas of strength and areas
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as an individual that gives them more
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year over year, this program is
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as well. Absolutely, beautiful ladies, and you're right, we do need

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to grab our first break and afterwards
I want and you both was just a

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way and quickly what you're most proud
of that program? So I think about

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that while we're on our quick break. I'm Doctor Release Cortez, your host.

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We've been the year with Tim Ragaines
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League. We've been talking a bit
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KNOWICE, what they love about training
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some important programs. After the breaker's
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the team and staff, Doctor Release
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and purpose and inspirational speaker and author. She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose

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among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership
and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment,

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performance, and commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite Elise

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to speak to your organization, please
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talk about how to get your employees
working on purpose. This is working on

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Purpose with doctor Elise Cortes. To
reach our program today or open a conversation

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with Alise, send an email to
Aleise Alise at elisecortes dot com. Now

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back to working on Purpose. Interesting
with us and welcome back to working on

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Purpose. I'm very excited to share
that I also, like Amber, had

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a baby in the pandemic, mine
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It's called Purpose Ignited and I got
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voted to turn readers onto their inspiration
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of a baby. And here we
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tuning in, we have Camera Games
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we will now talk about really the
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can't imagine where you would start.
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terms of your conference and your leadership
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begin. I'm so proud of our
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a chance and made decisions together and
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it was hard for all of us
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office for so long, but we
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with so many individuals, our reach
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other individuals that I normally don't get
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the networking actually expanded from me that
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funny. Sorry, real quick camera, just I just got to run this.

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So the thing about teamwork, right, you know, there's something Marcus

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Buckingham when he was on the show
last May, we were talking about people

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joined question not even organizations, but
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like that. That you put something
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is just awesome. I love how
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those gorgeous camera What are you proud
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the you know, to the team
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the team stepped up. And if
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on a zoom call with each other, you know, planning or trying to

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move projects forward, then we were
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to do virtual and reading articles on
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of just the things that we were
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and it created new skill sets for
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and that speaks to the whole topic
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we were talking about the importance of
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and actually allowing us to be able
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couldn't have before, we didn't think
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want to celebrate that. That's fantastic. Okay, So next, since we're

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course as an ongoing researcher and thought
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said it back in twenty twenty,
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employee engagement in the United States,
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swings. And so I wanted to
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Cornerstone League of how your what is
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we are, where we've been,
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from. What is it for you
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think we need I think we need
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and people are obviously so different in
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it? And I think what we
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we provide the most to the many? And you know, sometimes we have

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to become laser focused in a particular
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how timely and relevant can we be
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inspire and motivate in that So,
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perspective too. Yeah, so,
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me on a personal level, it
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I have surrounding me. They're critical
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someone initially take chances on me to
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am right now, and that inspires
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really dig in to to what I
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the adult education and the training and
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you know, that's part of be
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motivation behind us and we have to
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whether that's you know, a promotion
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or if it's you know, just
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as well. So for me,
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that inspire and motivate me. And
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that time. That is so beautiful. And speaking of that, one of

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the things I absolutely wanted to call
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This is something that a lot of
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and I'm not bashing on them,
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make. But what you did was
you invested in learning and development for your

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members, and you've created these dynamic
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the podcast series that we're about to
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keep your members growing in learning,
which I just really appreciate the dedication to

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commit with the resources that it took
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to say, You've got those competencies
in your program that you mentioned before,

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but I think you'll be great for
our listeners to understand some of the topics

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you plan to cover. What are
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There's so many, so some of
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kind of embark on diversity and leadership. Obviously, diversity, equity and inclusion

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is a very hot topic, absolutely, and it's important for us to be

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able to provide education that's going to
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could have used when I was twenty
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I up building your network is another
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people start to think about their retirement. So we're just continuing to build upon

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the core competencies that we had in
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keeping the base of the program alive, and we want to be able to

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continue to provide that guidance through education. I appreciate how your content absolutely near

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or some of the major things that
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you're really taking that and using it
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bring up awareness and training among your
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I think that's fantastic. So of
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of that, and I can't wait
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about all of us love this notion
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room and passionate as the vehicle.
What I'm interested though, into and how

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you believe this program is going to
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the difference, How will you know
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the things that comes to mind in
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is it's allowing us the opportunity to
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in our industry as well as people
like you that we bring in. And

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it's providing our participants, listeners,
subscribers, attendees, the opportunity for peer

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to peer mentors and people that have
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think you know that's key because it
just helps to enhance job performance. It

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helps people feel included, it helps
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that occurs, then people are more
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hmm. So now I'm curious,
of course, since you know we've done

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some conferences together, you've you've also
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and then you've got other there's the
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what kinds of feedback are you getting
from your members, What are they

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saying that's useful, what is sticking
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we're getting words of appreciation, So
so we're very excited about that.

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a little bit of affirmation every now and

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then to you know, kind of
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I think providing various topics in various
formats are meeting It's meeting the needs of

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people that are busy that maybe can't
step away for an our webinar. You

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know, we're providing some kind of
take five and take ten type lessons that

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are allowing people to utilize their mobile
devices and learn. So I think because

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we're doing things differently to meet people
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go, I think that's been very
helpful in them feeling like they're getting what

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they need. We've been getting a
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up their entire leadership staff so that
their staff is going through it together and

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they're really getting that ability to speak
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one credit union. Part of our
offerings through the year, we did programs

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that were related to diversity, equity
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union who put together a committee our
council specifically geared for that topic so that

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they could really ignite change in their
credit union. And that is the best

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feedback that you can possibly get is
watching them do something with the education that

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you have put it to work,
no doubt. Well, one of the

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things that Tamra that you said that
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specifically about podcasts, is that you
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but that people will listen longer to
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videos. Do I have that right? And why is that so? Why

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is that so? Do we suppose? I think it's convenience. I mean,

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for me personally, you know,
I'm starting to schedule because my day

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starts so much earlier than normal because
I'm not driving into the office. I'm

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still working from home, and because
my day often goes past five o'clock,

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I'm starting to schedule some time in
the middle of the day as a refresh

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up the dogs and I get my phone

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and my ear plugs, and you
know, I take the dogs for a

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walk and just get some fresh air
and get a fresh perspective. And it's

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been amazing on the day's when I
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how rejuvenated I am. And then
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you know, it was a great
opportunity for me to listen to podcasts and

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again further education or maybe select topics
that didn't make me think at all.

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you know an interesting going that's so
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that, yeah, I just I
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have heard so many people say how
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to stop your education just because you

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have things calling your name. And
being able to pop in my headphones and

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listen to my podcasts while I'm answering
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about podcasts a lot. I do too,

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and I we both have probably heard
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getting ready in the morning and in
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have something going on, whether it's
a video so that I can be learning

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from, and then when I'm cooking
dinner, then I usually have a podcast

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going on. So you're right to
your point. I always have something bringing

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some new insight into my ears,
into my learning, because there's just so

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much out there that's such good stuff
and to your point, I never want

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to stop learning and growing, so
great way to be able to bring it

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to life for our listeners and viewers. Let's grab our last break here before

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we go onto our last segment.
I'm doctor Release Cortez, your host.

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We've been in there with Tamra Gaines
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been talking really about their content and
what they did to really continue inspiring and

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learning and growing their staff and their
members in the pandemic. After the break,

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we're going to talk more about the
importance of continuing education. Stay with

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us. We'll be right back.
Doctor Release Cortes as a management consultant specializing

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in meaning and purpose and inspirational speaker
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for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that

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elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment
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to invite Elise to speak to your
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com. Let's talk about how to
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open a conversation with Alise, send
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com. Now back to Working on
Purpose, Thanking with us, and welcome

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back to working on Purpose. Another
update that I want to share with you

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is that during the pandemic, one
of the things that I did is I

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went back to my love of languages. I lived in Brazil and I speak

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Portuguese and Spanish so well. So
I launched Gusto now, which is now

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my e learning platform where I deliver
my courses, all of them in the

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English, Spanish and Portuguese. So
now that's a live, new fun thing.

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Another baby that I had that was
so fun in the pandemic. If

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you're just joining us, I have
two lovely guests from Cornerstone League. They

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are Tamera Gaines and Amber Bailey,
both of them coming in from Dallas.

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I'm your host, Doctor Les Fortes. So for this next segment here,

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ladies, I really wanted to talk
about the power of continuing education, and

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we sort of service that in the
last segment. But we've talked about some

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of the topics that you're focused on
in twenty twenty one, but I wasn't

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sure if I heard about all the
ones that you have the most juice around

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if we left in the out.
So I'll we did mention some of them,

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but I'll got to go ahead and
recap. I can break it down

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into probably three main categories. So
secession planning is definitely one of the main

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ones because a lot of baby boomers
are going to be retiring, a lot

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of CEOs that are going to be
retiring over the next five and ten years,

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and so it's important that we're continuing
to help those leaders understand the programs

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that they need in order to create
great internal secession planning. And then that

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ties into the diversity, equity and
inclusion and making sure that we're addressing biases

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biases and hiring that tie into that
and the benefits of having a diverse staff,

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diverse leadership, diverse board members.
And this topic is normally about how

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we're hiring, but again, how
are we tapping into our employees that we

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already have and how are we fostering
a culture of inclusion with them? And

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then the third one is it's broad, but it's leadership in general. But

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we'll continue to hone in on the
segments of how do we advance people this

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aspiring leader, how do we get
people engaged and motivated to want to take

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the next level and move up.
But then also we will have a major

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focus on executive leadership, and again
all of that ties into that secession planning

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as well. Absolutely beautiful, and
of course se session planning is really important.

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I really see that all of those
are are really important. But that

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handoff is just huge. Doing that
well is just huge. So here we

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are talking about the education you are
you're providing for your member, organization,

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their staff. I want to talk
about the fact that all three of us

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are continuing our own education and so
what is it and why is that important?

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To what do you each up to
amber, what are you doing,

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what are you working on? I
know, but let's have a refreshing for

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our listeners and viewers. You don't
know you So I am going back for

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my masters. It will be a
master's in education with an emphasis in organizational

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learning, performance and change. Is
a big nowful perfect, perfect, Yeah,

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it's exciting. I am I'm never
done learning. I don't think there's

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ever going to be a point when
I'm done learning. And I went back

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to get my bachelor's degree relatively later
in life, after I had my first

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child, and I did it really
because there I have a bucket list of

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goals that I want to accomplish.
But I also now have children that are

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my little motivators that are watching us
do everything, and I want to show

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them that, you know, regardless
of how long you've been out of school,

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your perseverance and being able to push
yourself to continue your education is key.

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And I just want to be able
to bring more as much expertise as

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I possibly can to the table to
help her members. And how exciting is

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that? You know, So everybody
who's listening to this, right, she

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has a full time job and she
has a family, and she's going to

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school and she's another life. It
can be done. And look how great

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she looks, Tamber, What do
you up to? She does? Look

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great, she gets up, she
works out. She I mean, she's

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like the energizer bunny for sure.
I have a variety of different certifications for

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speaking on leadership topics and that sort
of thing. However, recently I decided

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to expand my knowledge as it relates
to DEI diversity, equity inclusion, and

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so I'm currently in my last two
weeks of my certification program with Cornell University

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to get that certification, and so
I'm very excited about that because it has

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again really expanded by knowledge. Personally, I have been amazed at the level

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of what I have learned. But
then I know that it's also going to

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help me in what we do at
Cornerstone because it will help to feed the

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content that we're putting into some of
our programs, and quite honestly, it'll

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just help me as a leader in
you know, the whole space of creating

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an inclusive culture. And you know, if I ever have to, you

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know, hire on my team again, I think there are some things that

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I'll do different. I'll look at
the job descriptions differently and such because of

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this class that's so great. Well, and you know, here we are,

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we're talking about the importance of ongoing, continuing education. And I've been

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going to school most of my life. I'm the only one in my family

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that went to college, and I
have a bachelor's, two masters, and

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a PhD. And what I'm doing
now is what's called a diplomat in logo

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therapy. So it's kind of like
doing a master's in logo therapy. So

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again my perspective on that is I
am continually honing my craft. If I

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am in meaning and purpose, that
never ends that and so the accumulation of

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the ongoing understanding and reaching forward is
important, and I want to share that

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with our listeners and viewers because a
lot of people don't have the same relationship

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with learning and development as maybe we
do. They don't see it as as

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fun and exciting as we do.
So I want to for that is another

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way that just to stay current and
to stay relevant and to stay valuable in

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the workplace, ongoing education really is
important. So if we can help you

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find a way to relate to that
in a way that's more interesting, we're

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all up for that. You can
contact us and we can talk to you

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about that. So, speaking of
that, one of the other things that

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we have to talk about is this
notion that all of us are really getting

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at, this notion of continuing education
as an adult, which is not the

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same thing as learning at elementary school
or middle school. So could you talk

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to how you have created or situated
your programs to appeal to adults, to

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work for adults. This is this
is where I completely nerd out. I

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love adults. I love nerds by
the way, ever, welcome any time.

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So we take into consideration everything as
it relates to adult education theory when

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we're looking through a scope of what
we can offer for education, and that

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is, you know, down to
the granular elements of thenagement, making sure

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that whatever it is that they're learning
is applicable to their life and to what

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they do in their job functions so
they can take them back, take it

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back and actually put it into practice. And we're also taking into consideration the

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levels of experiences that there are out
there. Every single person brings something completely

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different to the table, and those
are things that we have to consider when

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we're making educational offerings. Is we
want something that's you know, for entry

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level leader all the way up to
volunteer boards and our CEOs because they're still

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learning too, and so that's that's
what we really hone in on, is

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you know, those different types of
theories. And I could go on and

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on for days about that, but
it's beautiful no having you know, and

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being relevant. And then you know, of course, the other piece of

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it is so that it can't just
show up as like conceptual or abstract or

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just ideological as much as I love
that realm, right, So making it

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it's accessible for adults so they can
actually use it. How do you do

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that? I think it comes down
to making sure that your objectives are clear

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and there we not only have job
functionalities, but taking it down all the

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way to those core competencies that we're
offering our leadership in our leadership programs.

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It gives them that opportunity to go
back and put those into practice and into

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their credit union so they can continue
to grow. So yeah, going all

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the way down to the bear basics, that's what you need to do.

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Mmmm. Anything to add No,
Amber's got aces on aces on that with

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the adult learning, and that's again
some of the incredible value that she has

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brought to the table and what we've
been able to provide to our members because,

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like both of you said, everybody
learns differently, you know. One

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of the things that I absolutely learned
to over the years that I've been delivering

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various content, and some of it
like for example, like what I've into

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the notion of emotional intelligence, and
some people think that's really soft and sort

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of useless, and so what I've
also found that's important is I situate why

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this is important and how you can
actually use this stuff. So, emotional

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intelligence is what allows you to have
really difficult conversations that most people are uncomfortable

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00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:20.679
with and don't want to have.
That. Emotional intelligence is what lets you

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develop a relationship with somebody that you
wouldn't otherwise be able to maybe reach.

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It's a way to deliver really inspiring
messages. And so when you start to

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inculcate why is this stuff important,
how are you going to be able to

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use it? I think you get
a lot more attention, for sure.

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Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. So
one of the other things that's always fun

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to talk about, and I've got
to share a story about this is I've

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run to several people and I bet
you have as well, and I bet

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people have asked you this question.
What do you say to the person who's

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reached like the highest level in an
organization or one of your credit unions or

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one of your memberships and they feel
like, I don't need professional development?

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What do you say to that?
I say, quit? Why about?

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I know? Yeah, I mean
right, But seriously though, I mean,

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it's so important to never stop learning, but even more than that,

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to never think that we know everything
that there is to know. I don't

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care if you want to learn how
to play guitar or if you want to

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learn to knit, learn something,
expand your mind. And I think back

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to you know, Bob the man
on the plane, who was such a

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great example for me at such an
early age, and that his book Suggestion

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inspired me to really dig into being
you know, that self professed self self

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help junkie. And I think we
can all inspire people by the examples that

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we set and being you know,
a constant learner of something, I think.

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So that's a good example for people. A great am there anything you

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want to add to that? Before
I tell you the story? I I

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you know, I would throw some
statistics at him. Honestly, you can't.

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You just can't argue the statistics.
Pearson does a global learning survey each

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year and what they found was that
eighty four percent of people believe that education

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helps them live a better life.
And you can't argue that. I know

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for myself, you know that continued
education and constantly having the desire to learn

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something really drives me in everything that
I do. So that's what I would

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say, Okay, well, what
I'll chime into that is, you know,

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certainly all three of us are all
all three of us are doing something

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today to further education. And I
do. I invest in some kind of

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a fairly important conference or something each
and every year for myself personally, my

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own money. And I just came
back from a week at PSI's seven day

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Personal Transformation work outside in the High
Valley Ranch in California, and one of

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the things that was great about that
is the trainers there who've been with the

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organization for thirty years, said that
one of the people that had recently come

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through is none other than doctor Wayne
Dyer. Well, if you don't know

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who doctor Wayne Dyer is, it'd
be hard for me to really presence him.

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But you know, he's a great
philosopher. He's really done a lot

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in the education space, written many
many books, and is known for his

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work in personal transformasion. And he's
still going to seminars. And I think

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that really speaks loudly of the need
that what most of us start to recognize,

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which is really humbling, is once
we get into something, we realize

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how much we don't know. Right, if you're really paying attention, you

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recognize that. So I just really
want to echo. And here's the thing,

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ladies and gentlemen. If learning is
not something that so far right now

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00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.320
has been fun for you, talk
to other people. Talk to us.

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00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:58.639
We know how to make it fun. And so maybe you've just had some

584
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not so great teachers. We'd like
to fix that with you. Reach out

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00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.119
to us. Here we are ladies. At the end of the show,

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we've managed to already get lose an
hour almost And you know that this program

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was listening to people across the world, and I love that about this program.

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We get to literally reach across the
globe and people that come to it

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00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:21.559
are looking for ways to be able
to create cultures of meaning, inspirational leadership,

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and places that people can want to
come to and make a difference in

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the world. What would you let
to leave listeners with. Don't stop,

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never stop, never stop trying to
learn and do your best and just persevere.

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You know, the mindset that you
really hold is going to propel you

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onto the next phase of your life. It's carving out that path for you

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00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:50.000
find your motivation and find your passion, because that's ultimately you know, you're

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00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.719
going to want to learn everything you
possibly can. Once you find your passion,

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Samra I'd say, whether you're at
the start of adversity like a pandemic,

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or whether you're responsible for providing education
and guidance like Amber does on a

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daily basis in her job, to
always think about the value that you can

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bring to others. So you know, in the decisions that you make,

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if they're about serving others or meeting
someone else's need, elevating someone's career,

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or maybe cheering someone up. You
know when when they're bummed or they're tired

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of being home because of the pandemic, You'll be amazed at how much you

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will get back and get your soul
fed in a positive way when you get

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out of your own way and really
focus on others. That is so beautiful,

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ladies. And I have to add
to this because you've just paved the

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path so beautifully. What I'd also
say, every single one of us is

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guilty of saying one of these two
things at one point in life. Either

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I'm not good at that, so
I'm not going to work at it.

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I'm just not good at that.
I'm not good at technology. I said

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that for years. I could say
I could blow up any technology, and

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then I got to a place that, jeez, in the virtual area,

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I think I better get good to
technology, and lo and behold, I

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became pretty adept at it. And
then the other thing that we tend to

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say, which is extremely limiting this
ghost to mindset, like you were talking

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to Amber, is when we say
things like, well, you know,

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I've got one of those kind of
personalities where I just don't do those kind

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of things. You know, I'm
really you know, I got a short

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attention span or whatever. What I
rarely want to remind all of you is

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that we human beings show up in
the world exactly the same. We are

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a helpless bundle of cuteness and that
is completely helpless, and we managed to

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grow into these amazing human beings that
can do things like when Nobel prizes,

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run countries, create amazing companies.
What the human being can do is never

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ending. The only difference is how
much are you willing to invest in yourself,

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continue and learning, continue growing and
being the inspiration for others who do

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the same. So I just really
want to challenge you to look at your

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mindset, what is it telling you
can and cannot do, and then go

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past that. Anything else to add
before we go our separate ways, ladies,

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please those a longer experience, Yeah, me too. For me too.

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And again, I'm so grateful for
our collaboration. I appreciate who we

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get to be in the world together, that we get to learn from each

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other, be inspired by each other
and our ongoing work, and I appreciate

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that. And listeners and viewers.
As I said, these are great resources

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and people for you to know in
the world. And if you want to

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learn more about them, you can
find them a couple of ways. You

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can go to their website which is
Cornerstone League dot co op. If you

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want to find them individually, you
can find them both on LinkedIn, Camera

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Gains tam r A Gains and then
Ambert Bailey. Those are great ways,

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so I encourage you to interact with
them. They're just amazing professionals. And

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if you love learning or don't think
you like it, now's your chance.

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And also back to what we said
about the sponsorship who brought this particular episode

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forward slash Awareness. Last week,
you missed the live show, you can

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always getch you be recorded podcast.
We are on your Dan Berger, who

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is the CEO and president of NAFCU, which is a credit union base,

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talking about his perspective of servant leadership, emotional intelligence and hiring for attitude over

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strictly resume fantastic conversation. Next week
we will be on the air with Brandon

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Peel, who is a fellow purpose
guide and author of Planet on Purpose,

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your guide to genuine prosperity, authentic
leadership, and a better world. We'll

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be talking about the work he does
and this book. See you there.

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Remember that works at least or of
our life. So let's work on Purpose.

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