Finding Your Lane and Key Lessons Learned from Business Leaders

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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,

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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortes. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and

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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five. It's working

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on Purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortes. Welcome back to

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the Working on Purpose Show. Thanks
for tuning again this week. I'm your

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host, Elise Cortes. Join you
live from Dallas, which is home base

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for me. If you've been tuning
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more meaningful and purposeful lives and equipping leaders

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insight organizations to cultivate meaning and purpose
that elicits passion inspired contribution, innovation,

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and persevering performance. I talk with
my guests to draw on their expertise,

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and you're right, I'm glad we're
connected, and thanks for listening. Now

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onto this week's program with us.
Right next to me is Bruce Waller.

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He's the vice president of Corporate Relocation
for Armstrong Relocation and Companies and the author

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of a leadership book called Finder Lane
to inspire people with a career GPS approach

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to help them navigate a career with
purpose. He also currently serves on Dallas

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HR Board of Trustees as well as
Texas Scherms State Council as District what District

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Leader, District Director, District Director. We'll be talked talking about his experience

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working with SHRM and Dallas HR and
what that's taught him and also some leadership

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lessons he's learned from talking with and
working with executives over his career. He's

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sitting right next to me in my
and my Dallas office studio and we're also

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broadcasting on Facebook live stream. Bruce, welcome to Working on Purpose. Thanks

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for having me the least. It's
great to be here and see you again,

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isn't it fun? It's very fun. Last time we talked, I

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think it was the Starbucks. It
was lots of energy, had a great

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time. Look forward to talking again. Likewise, and you're the one that

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introduced me to Adrian Court and we
had a great conversation about culture. Thing

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from all time favorites Adrian excellent alchemedy
technology. That's right, So thank you

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for that connection. And to start
off, you whipped out this little card

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you've got here. Let's talk about
that I did, and that's kind of

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like what we're doing here. So
we're going to talk a little bit about

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SHARAM. But I have this card
and this card is Convos and Coffee and

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this is a SARM. This is
a SCHERM campaign that they are using to

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try to create better workplaces, which
will make a better world. And it's

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all about starting a conversation. This
particular interesting, this particular startup conversation actually

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ask a question for employees to be
able to like talk to others in the

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workplace and open up conversations. So
it's pretty neat. Okay, I want

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to talk about that really quick,
and then I want to kick into what

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we have what we have planned here, and also definitely want to hear from

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our listeners. Whether you're coming in
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dot com or whether you're coming in
through the Facebook livestream, Please join us.

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If you have any questions or comments, chime in. But what I

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want to point out about this card
you're holding, which is really cool,

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is it says the top this is
only one of two employees claim to understand

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the vision and goals of their organization. And so you've got this queued up

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here. It says, discuss the
time you felt confused about your organization's vision

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and goals. So you're opening a
channel of conversation between employees. Isn't that

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great? It's brilliant. And so
this actually was at the national conference and

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they had a place in the marketplace
set up to where attendees at the conference

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could go and sit on the couch, have a cup of coffee and have

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a conversation. And I think you're
going to hear more and more about this.

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I think it's an incredible campaign and
it's really going to drive culture well.

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And what I love about that and
what's so important about that And for

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our listeners who don't know what me
ME and my shirm it stands for the

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Society for Human Resource Management. So
if you've not heard that acronym before,

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there's only a million of them on
the planet. That's what that stands for.

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What I like about that is the
importance of being able to create engaged

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communities at work. We spend at
least a bit of our lives at work,

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and if we're not connected to the
people we're working with, it's an

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empty experience. Oh, no question, no question at all. So I

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want to start by talking about your
brand. I love this. This is

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so great to see what you have
for your brand here. Your brand is

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people grower, people connector, and
a people mover. I think that's just

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splendid, it's so crisp, it's
so clear. Tell us what that means

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for you. Yeah. Really,
that really came from a exercise that I

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did. Jennifer McClure, or the
CEO of Unbridled Talent, was doing some

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branding exercises. So I just out, I'm going to go through the exercise,

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and that is what I came out. And So when I think about

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people grower, people connector and people
move her, I think about, Okay,

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what I want to do. What's
purpose for me is about being in

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alignment with grow, connect, and
move. So, for example, I

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want to grow because I know that
I can help other people grow. I

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want to connect because I can help
other people connect. I can help people

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connect with the resources if I learn
more. And then of course move.

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I want to move inspire people.
But also I work for a relocation company

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and I want to help them move
their family as well. We mean move

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in all manners. That's so great. But what about dancing? Can we

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move to Yeah? I think my
wife would tell you I'm probably not a

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good dancer. Okay, no,
skip that park. Okay, so let

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me let me call a lot of
people that just joyed us here, Deborah

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and great to have you, Veronica
Perez Thomason, Great to have you.

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Brenda Gray's rocking it and again she
let your money. Great to have you,

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Sonya sal Ghetto, It's so great
to have you. And Crystal we

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had you on as well, and
Andrew as well, So thank you for

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joining us. It's great to have
you. So the next thing I want

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to get into for our listeners,
since you have a unique lens on this,

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since you're part of Society for Human
Resource Management and Dallas HR, can

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you first help us understand what's happening
with SHARP, what's the focus, what

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do they cared about these days?
Yeah, I think when I talked earlier

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about better workplaces, a better world, I think you're really seeing some a

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real shift. And what's happening is
a new CEO has come into play in

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that's Johnny C. Taylor, very
charismatic and he's just doing a great job

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of moving everyone in the right direction. And they've got some campaigns and the

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campaigns what I'm seeing is really around
what we've seen, but he's really been

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able to frame it, and it's
around recruiting and retention, right, and

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so around recruiting, there's a couple
of campaigns going on. Number one is

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getting talent back to work, and
you're seeing a lot on this and this

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is about second chance employees, and
I'll talk a little bit more about that,

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and then also Veterans back to Work. I know you had a guest

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on recently talking about military. There's
on most twenty thousand military veterans coming into

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the workforce a month. I mean
that's two hundred thousand a year, and

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so trying to figure out how do
we help them deploy get back into the

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workplace. I love that. I
really appreciate that. And yes, you're

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talking about my conversation with Carl Monger, who started A Few, a Gallant

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Few, and it was a great
conversation about how he helps veterans transition from

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military life to civilian life. Beautiful
work that they're doing. So thank you

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for knowing and hearing about that.
Yeah, as a matter of fact,

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one of the programs is the Veterans
Back to Work program. It's really it's

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really being driven by the Sharm Foundation
and that particular program. What they're doing

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is they're offering a certificate to these
HR professionals to help them with best practices

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and focus on attracting, hiring,
and retaining veterans. And really the recruiting,

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hiring, and retention of engagement and
military and so these HR professionals can

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go in and really consume this education, get a certificate, and they're going

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to be better equipped to be able
to try to help the military get back

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into the workplace. I think it's
incredible. I think it's we owe that

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to our vendors. Absolutely so,
I think that's fantastic work. So what

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about you said something about the mission
driven connection with tech within Texas, the

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role of that and supporting the chapter
leadership. I don't understand that connection.

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Say more about that. Yep,
sure absolutely. So. CHARM is made

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up of three hundred thousand plus members
and effects over a million employees, and

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they have these state councils all over
the US and so Texas SHURM is really

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an organization that is mission driven.
And what I mean by that is their

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mission is to support and connect chapter
leaders to elevate the HR profession and they

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do that through edge, they do
that through afficacy, and they do that

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through leadership development. So it's all
about helping these chapters thirty two in the

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state of Texas and support twenty thousand
CHAIRM members to just be more equipped in

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the HR profession and really not only
help the HR professional but also elevate the

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HR profession. I love that.
And how did you get involved? I

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mean, that's quite a big job, my dear. I mean, I've

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already got a full time job.
You got a family, You're writing books.

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I mean, what else are you
doing? No, it's a great

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story. I actually joined the Armstrong
Relocation in two thousand and four, and

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I had been on the management side
of operations, and so I decided that

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I wanted to get in on really
the marketing side of our business. And

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so I joined Armstrong Relocation in two
thousand and four, and immediately I thought,

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Okay, I need to figure out
who do I need to talk to

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and how can I engage And so
of course I went out and I networked

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with many, many different groups.
There are lots of groups out there,

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by the way, that you can
network with, and you just got to

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find your lane. And we're going
to talk about that. But for me,

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my lane was a Dallas HR,
which is the third largest shown chapter

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in the country, by the way, right here in Dallas, Texas and

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the North Texas Relocation professionals. So
in Dallas HR, it's a very interesting

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really it was all about showing up, of volunteering and really leaning in to

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figure out how can you serve the
organization? Right, that's when things change.

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And so I joined the organization in
two thousand and five and became president

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in twenty twelve, served on the
board of trustees as I do today,

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and then in two thousand nineteen ohss
to be part of the Texas State Council.

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Thank you for your leadership and your
service where you are really really important

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work. I want to acknowledge all
of our listeners here. It came on

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through w FOCY the chat room.
David, you were asking about vets.

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I believe we answered that question earlier, but just in case you if you

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want to know more, go ahead
and back into the chat room. Thank

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you for your question and for your
engagement. Thanks for listening. Absolutely right,

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good stuff, Absolutely good. I'd
love to connect with you and continue

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the conversation, so as David to
hear that if you want to reach out

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to Bruce, at the end of
the show, we'll talk about how to

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find him. All right, So
let me ask you this. You know,

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I can't resist asking this because I'm
a researcher. I'm a social scientist,

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and I'm always going to ask the
why questions. What is it about

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this work that so fulfills you,
so that's so engages that keeps you so

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at work at it over these years. You know, I really, for

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me, it's all about being able
to I've been through, you know when

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I wrote my book, and we'll
talk about that, Find your Lane.

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I talk a lot about challenges and
failures and successes, and I'm to a

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point to where I just feel like
I have a platform to be able to

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help people. And so my gift
really, I think is encouraging encouraging people

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that listen. There are ways and
there are stre that you can use to

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have more fulfillment, have more joy, have more purpose in your work.

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But it's going to start with us. Well, I think that is absolutely

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brilliant. I want to hear more
about that. We're going to we're going

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to serve that up through some of
the questions. I know that you have.

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You've got at least ten lessons that
you learn from taught business leaders that

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you talk about in your book,
and I want to talk about that next.

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But I think now is a good
time to grab our first break I'm

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Elice Cortez, your host. We've
been on the air with Bruce Waller.

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He's the vice president of corporate Relocation
for Armstrong Relocation and Companies and the author

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of a leadership book called Find Your
Lane to inspire people with a GPS approach

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to help them navigate a career with
purpose. We've been talking a bit about

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his leadership roles here in the Society
Society for Human Resource Management, and what

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he's learned about being in the field
and why he's so passionate about it.

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After the break, we're going to
talk about those ten lessons he's learned from

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business leaders. Stay with us,
we'll be right back. Alice Cortez is

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speaker and engagement and development catalyst.
She designs and delivers professional development, leadership

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and engagement workshops and can bring her
expertise to your organization. She will help

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ignite meaningful development within your workforce that
will increase employee engagement, performance and retention.

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To learn more or to invite Elise
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visit her at www dot Elisecortes dot
com. She would welcome the opportunity to

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help get your employees working on purpose. This is Working on Purpose with Elise

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Cortes. To reach our program today, send an email to a lease alic

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at Elisecortes dot com. Now back
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Working on Purpose if you're just join us.

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My guest is Bruce Waller. He's
the vice president of Corporate Relocation for

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Armstrong Relocation and Companies, and he
also serves on the Dallas HR Board of

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Trustees as well as the Texas Firms
State Council as a District Director. I'm

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your host, Alie Cortes. So
before we get back into the conversation,

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I want to acknowledge a listener we
have on W fourcy. Hello, Lena.

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I see you have got a question
here. You're not a question,

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your comment and you're saying I find
networking so hard. I get shy around

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new people, and I wonder if
maybe what Bruce just said before the break

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could help you. He said that
he went and he volunteered for this organization

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that he cares about. He became
of service and then he got known by

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people and the pretty soon before you
knew it. You know, he's got

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a leadership role. I wonder if
that's a way to help you get over

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your shyness while being of service and
connecting meaningfully with others. Hey, I'm

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just going to say networking is hard. Yeah, if it were, if

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it were easy, everybody be doing
it. And it's very hard. But

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here's what I say. I say
that whenever we So let me just tell

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you just a real quick story.
There's a story I heard where a lady

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worked for two gentlemen. So one
of them was an outgoing leader and one

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of them was an income leader.
And somebody asked the lady what was the

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difference between the two leaders, and
she said, well, the first leader

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was very interesting, but the second
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so for me, it was about
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having a mindset to go there to
learn about other people and how you might

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be able to somehow connect with them
and help them versus whatever you whatever your

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agenda is, And so that's kind
of how it starts. And it's just

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really about and I put in my
book, it's about showing up and trying

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to figure out how can I learn
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that helps. That's beautiful. I
hope that you got some buy from that

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leader, and thanks for chiming in
in the chat room. That's beautiful,

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and that actually goes right into the
very first leadership lesson that you talk about

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in your book, and that's serve
first. Before we get into that,

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share a little bit about how you
learn these lessons and why you've got ten

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in your book, Why did you
pick these ten and how did you how

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did you after them? Yeah,
So, whenever I started working for Armstrong

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Relocation, I wanted to be different. I didn't want to be known as

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a sales guy. I wanted to
be known as someone who could help write

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a trusted advisor. And so I
started a newsletter. And I wrote a

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newsletter for many years, and then
I morphed that over to a blog in

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twenty eleven. And in my blog
it's called a Relocation Minute at Bruce Waller

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dot com. But in my blog, I started writing about relocation. Well,

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unless you're relocating, it's really not
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relocating, it's very, very,
very important. So I decided that,

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Okay, well I'm going to start
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writing about leadership. In twenty sixteen, I decided to do something a little

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bit different, and I interviewed some
of the top leaders in the country.

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These were leaders of oil and gas
companies, leaders of multi billion dollar corporations,

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these were professors in universes, and
I asked them and I called it

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a be a Lifter interview series,
And so what I wanted to find out

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from them was I'd ask ten questions
and the questions were around, hey,

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where'd you grow up? What books
do you read? But the last question

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I asked is what advice would you
give others coming into the business. And

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when I got through with all of
these interviews, I put this together and

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I thought how impactful and how pragmatic
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sharing that this is what I would
advise to be a better leader, to

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have success in your career. And
that's where I came up with these And

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of course the first one, Serve
first, that's brilliant, so so and

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you're a perfect walking billboard of that, right. It's really beautiful to inspiring.

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Thank you, So Serve first,
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that. I meant by that,
well, it's just like when we were

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talking about networking earlier. It's about
having a mindset of how can I so

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the people that I meet. Whether
it's in your home, how can I

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serve my children? How can I
serve my wife? It is in your

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workplace, how can I be a
better employee? How can I serve you?

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And a lot of times when I
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I always refer back to the Wayne
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skate to where the puck's going.
Anticipate if you're asking a question,

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kind of anticipate what or maybe you're
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give someone, and maybe anticipate some
of the questions ahead of time so you

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can serve them well. And so
it's about just like leaning in and just

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finding out how can I help them? Because it is true, the more

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you help others, it will come
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So listeners, if you want to
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first here is the first. The
first leadership lesson is serve first. The

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second one is never stop learning.
Say a little bit more about that.

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Just I mean, and when I
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I was done, I mean,
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yes, I got my degree,
No, more learning. There's a there's

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a slogan that nikeing It says there
is no finish line. And that's true

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for learning, continuous learning. I'm
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with you rely absolutely. And so
the thing about it is when we have

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a never stop learning mindset, whether
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audible, going to whatever, that
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information and you're able to share that
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the way. So I'm going to
echo this really quick. If you can

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look behind me, those of you
that are on Facebook livestream, and you

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see my bookshelf back here. Somebody
actually said to me that I'm a radio

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show host with a reading problem.
That's exactly right. So because very often

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when I get on, of course, I read Bruce's book in preparation for

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this conversation, So fully enforce,
and I'll just say just to never stop

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learning. As par sident of Doll's
HR, I was no longer in an

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HR practitioner seat. I was in
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took the PHR certification and the sharm
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could understand the HR practitioners and how
I could serve them more brilliant, brilliant,

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Okay, lesson number three, tell
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like to feel appreciated? And when
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or hey, you're doing a great
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I love to be with that.
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with that is, in the years
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employee engagement assessments and consulting, pretty
much the number one variable that drove employee

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engagement was feeling valued and appreciated.
Most people want to feel like, hey,

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I showed up today and somebody actually
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I just when I was in my
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of sales put a note on my
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and it just made me feel I
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It made me feel valued, and
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Absolutely, that's exactly right. And
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to be present to be able to
say this stuff. You've got to be

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able to be in a space where
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in the act if you will,
yes, Tony Aragon, Yes, that's

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right, that's so true, she
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So lesson number four, have a
Nothing is ever accomplished alone philosophy, Oh

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my goodness, isn't that. I
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aren't we. And so I have
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think we can all agree that when
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when we bring people along with us, it just feels different, doesn't it.

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It's so much better. It is
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with and through others. Yeah,
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being as well. I was actually
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about how I went to play golf. I've only done this one time,

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and I went to play golf with
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feel the same as when I played
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them with me and the stories and
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just about achieving a goal. It's
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Oh my gosh, I can see
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first. No, I will just
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my life, I wouldn't be where
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great mentor. I have people in
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I have people in Dallas HR that
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that that I'm they're a mentor.
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So mentors are very, very important. What were you going to say

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about it? I want to say
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have a question here from Bob,
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second. I want to say thank
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they mean a lot to me.
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thank you loudly and often. First, Roland Hartle, who fired me at

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age nineteen. He fired me because
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something way more with my life than
I could ever saw. And he said,

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if you stay here, you'll never
do it. He said, you

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got to get out of here.
You got to go see the world,

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and you got to get into education, but before you go hire your replacement,

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Boom, there's the door. Wow. Fantastic. I mean really,

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the guy opened my whole life open, saved my life. Roland. I

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love you. You know that.
Thank you so much. Number two Sean

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Anderson, love you forever. He
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been for at least the last couple
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purpose today without Sean Anderson, without
his encouragement, without him helping me along

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the way, encouraging me, empowering
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in my roadblocks, I would not
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that I'm doing today. I love
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a story about thank you for firing
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mentor in my life. I mean
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are still in touch. He's eighty
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is. I think it was his
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celebrated that he's still out inventing products. I see him every year. Well,

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one thing I am excited about with
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mentorship program, and so the last
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college students. My first year was
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Women's University, and then this year
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UTD And one of the things that
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decided that I'm going to re tap
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out. And we went and visited
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were in the workplace, and we
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questions and we called it HR around
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not only for Morgan, but the
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and then even myself. It was
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people all the time, when you're
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accessibility and connectivity, can they help
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That's beautiful, Bruce, Okay,
let's keep chugging. I want to

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make sure that we give the whole
list to our listeners. Number six lesson

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from business leaders is always evaluate where
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that's very important, and that goes
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finish line. Whenever I achieve a
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need to be where. I need
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do I need to do to get
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Who do I need to connect with
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learn? And so I think we
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get better. I really applaud that, not just because it's smacking a lean

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that work that I do, but
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sometimes that's that's hard. I remember
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landed my first account, I was
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and then I remember a couple of
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and I got so down and I
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you really just have a have to
have the right perspective, yeah, you

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know, and even kill and having
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way, What are your thoughts on
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to say, just this morning,
I had a beautiful conversation with a man

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who told me that in his previous
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world, he was a preacher and
he said, you would not believe how

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people revere you in that role.
And he said, you know, we

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still have all of our own flaws
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put us way up in this pedestal, and you really have to manage your

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self esteem, your self awareness,
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have a failing makes us better attitude? Love that please? Oh yes,

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failing. Who likes to fail?
Raise your hand? Not me? But

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you know that failing is just part
of the process. And the more we

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fail, the better we will get
from that. And unfortunately we don't like

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to do it, but it's going
to make us better. And I have

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a story I share many times.
I shared it in my book about a

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time when I failed. I was
working as a manager, and we were

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had potholes in our parking lot.
And I failed because I didn't collaborate,

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I didn't bring others with me on
my journey. I basically made the decision

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to go ahead and have the work
done. And it was really it was

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kind of it was really a scam, and you can read about it.

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But what happened was I just wanted
potholes filled in the parking lot, and

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whenever I came to work the next
day, the whole entire parking lot was

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paved brand new. And I thought, oh my gosh, I'm going to

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get fired, and I what is
this going to cost? And so,

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you know, I learned, and
I think the thing about it is for

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failures, this we just need to
learn from that. Work fail just accept

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it. I mean, it's not
fun going through that at the time.

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But like you talked about earlier,
you know, with your job, you

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know, you got fired and it
could be considered a failure. Yeah,

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but I'm so grateful for that,
right. But I've been studying a fair

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amount of failure and I've had a
couple of guests talking about it. At

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the top me a lot about failure, and one of the things they talk

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about is if you the opportunity is
to face that failure as okay I found

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out another way it doesn't work,
and to keep moving. It's if we

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get stopped in our tracks because of
our failure, then we've kind of missed

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the opportunity. It's that thing to
step back in the game, you know,

431
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put your hand back in the fire
if you will, once you have

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failed. That's where the rubber really
meets the road. I think, Uh,

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there's one acronym I put in my
book and I got it from a

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good friend, Terry Forrest, and
he says, fear is false evidence that

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appears real. And it's just like, hey, do I need to make

436
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a call. Do I need to
have that tough conversation? I mean,

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you may have you may fail from
it, but the good news is we

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learn from it. Yeah, and
to encourage that learning mentality. Two more

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00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.000
really quick, and I want to
get Bob's question, if you're growing her

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break number nine is add value to
others? Yeah, I think that's probably

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the most important thing we can do. And any job is figuring out how

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can we add value. The company
has hired us to come in and help

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them achieve their business goals, but
we are also expected to figure out how

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can we continue to add value.
I mean, whether it's through positivity,

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through just having resources, through when
your network and finding different ways to help

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the company. I think that we've
got to figure out how can I help

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my coworker, how can I add
value to the company, how can I

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add value to my network, whatever
it is, continually looking for that.

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I'm down with that entirely. Number
ten last leadership lesson here is surround yourself

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with great people. Yeah, I
would say that's probably for me. That's

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what advice I would give anyone.
And when you're around great people, good

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things happen. Right. I think
I've read something one time that you're the

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average of the five people that you're
surrounded by, and so I think that

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anytime you surround yourself with great people, great things are going to happen.

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I completely agree. I'm just going
to mention on that add value to those

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as well. It's you know that
also is about take basically you taking the

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initiative or us taking the initiative to
go out and read a book, to

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go out and listen to an audible, to go out and get that certification.

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Figure always looking for ways to get
better, to add value to your

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company as well. Here here,
that brings me back to my problem.

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I'm a radio show host with a
reading problem. No problem. I love

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00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:30.440
it. I love it. I
love your bookcase. Thank you. Well,

463
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.039
I'm out of room as you could
see. Okay, So Bob,

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you're our last question before we go
on break. Here, he says,

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do you think everyone can be a
leader? I do. I think that

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if you want to be a leader, you can be a leader. And

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I think that starts with making the
choices right, making choices and developing habits

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to help you get better. You
know me personally, if I was wanting

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to be a better leader, I
would go find a good leader and have

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a conversation with them. Yeah,
I agree. Wonderful way to send us

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into our into our breakboard question.
Yeah, Bob, thanks for that question.

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Time for a break. I'm your
host, Elise Cortez. We've been

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in the air with Bruce Waller.
He's the vice president of Corporate Relocation for

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Armstrong Relocation and Companies and the author
of a leadership book called Finder Lane to

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inspire people with a career GPS approach
to helping them navigate a career with Purpose.

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You joined you today from my studio
office right here next to me in

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Dallas. We're also broadcasting live on
Facebook Livestream. After the break, we're

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going to talk more about some key
points from his book. Stay with us,

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We'll be right back. Alis Cortes
is a speaker and engagement and development

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catalyst. She designs and delivers professional
development, leadership and engagement workshops and can

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bring her expertise to your organization.
She will help ignite meaningful development within your

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workforce that will increase employee engagement,
performance and retention. To learn more or

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to invite Elise to speak to your
organization, please visit her at www dot

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Elise Coortes dot com. She would
welcome the opportunity to help get your employees

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working on purpose. This is working
on Purpose with Elise Cortes. To reach

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our program today, send an email
to a lease A l I s at

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Elisecortes dot com. Now back to
working on Purpose. Thanks for staying with

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us, and welcome back to working
on Purpose. If you're just tuning in,

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My guest is Bruce Waller. He's
the vice president of corporate Relocation for

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Armstrong Relocation and Companies He's also currently
serving as on the Dallas HR Board of

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Trustees as well as Texas Shirms State
Concils District Director. I'm your host,

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Elise Cortes. Before we go back, if we can, bruceless achnowloge of

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few the folks that just joined us, we have Ale lavarat Aele Lavarati is

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my what I call my brother from
from from Oregon. Pron Ola Romano missed

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you terribly, vashtit right is my
Actually I call her my right hand publicist

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and business manager. Ty. Thank
you for joining us. It's so great

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to have you with us. Okay, So for this last segment here,

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Bruce, let's bring it home from
your book. So let me show this

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book to the folks of us.
This is this is the book here,

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folks on Facebook live stream that we're
going to be talking from here. But

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I just wanted to give a few
pearls that I thought really stood out as

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I went through and read the book. Bruce, there's a couple of things.

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One I want to talk about this
thing about defining moments. I think

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that is such an important part of
our conscious self awareness journey. So there

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was a couple pieces in there that
that resonated for me as I thought about

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that, But what are a couple
of those defining moments for you? First

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of all, thank you for reading
my book. I really appreciate that.

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00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.880
Absolutely. Yeah, whenever I get
people want to talk about the book,

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I get so excited. That's excited, so it'll be my turn when I

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finished. I can't wait. I
was going to ask you about that.

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So I think that, yeah,
we have defining moments, and we all

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know what those defining moments are,
and it's a matter of did we take

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action on those defining moments just one
in particular. There have been so many

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in my career, but really,
for me, my first defining moment was

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deciding to show up my first day
of college to a college fraternity party.

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And what happened was is I moved
to a city at University Central, Oklahoma

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and Edmund and I was living with
my grandmother. I didn't know anybody there.

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I went to the sporting goods store
to buy a college book bag and

519
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there was a man by the name
of John Pellow and he said, hey,

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you know, are you going to
school here? And I said yes,

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And he said, well, you
ought to come by this fraternity party.

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Tonight, and I was like,
okay, I'll do it. And

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so I went to the fraternity party
and I pulled up and there was lots

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of loud music, lots of cars, and I got out. I pulled

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in a part. I got out
of my car and I walked about three

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steps and I heard a guy say
you can't park there, And immediately I

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froze and I'm like, oh no, I need to get my car and

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I need to just leave. And
so I got my car, I moved

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my car, and so my defining
moment was I got to the stops and

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I could turn left and go back
to back home, or I could turn

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right and go into that face the
party, the fear we were talking about

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fair early, and so anyway I
did. I did go back in.

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I met a lot of people there, but that's where I met my wife.

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Oh that during that time, and
so that was a defining moment.

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I mean, I could have not
made that decision. I also had that

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even with and a lot of times
defining moments for me have been through like

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networking, right making that having the
courage to make that choice to say,

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you know what, here's the defining
moment I've got to embrace it. I

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love that, I love it.
And this is similar but not quite the

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same. And that's about choices.
You've got a section of your book that's

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that's called Your Choices Shape You,
and I think that's incredibly profound. So

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if you can give our listeners a
couple of ideas about how to navigate choices,

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and I want to share one or
two choices that really make a difference

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for me. I think when it
comes to choices, I mean, I

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think that we all have choices,
right, we have the choice to get

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up early or sleep in. We
have the choice to be positive or negative,

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or how we're going to respond to
something, or we have the choice

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to go take that certification. And
I think that we just have to make

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good choices every day and surround ourselves
around good people to make those good choices.

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And I talked about that in my
book, and I talked about John

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Maxwell has a section on there about
some of the choices that you make will

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make you in time. Oh that's
beautiful. Just two choices that I want

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to share, and both of them
were risky. Okay. So in my

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mid twenties, I was twenty five
years old and I was dating men at

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the time, and after a month
of dating, he said I'm going to

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get moved to Spain, Madrid,
Spain. And I said, you're gonna

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do great, that's fantastic, what
a great opportunity. And he says,

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I think you should come with me. And so four months later I did.

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I followed this man that I knew
for four months and moved to Spain,

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Madrid, Spain. We went.
We lived there for six months,

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went all over Western Europe, and
then we got moved to Rio de Janeiro

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that was there for two years,
went all over South America. That experience

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rocked my world, totally opened my
mind and heart and soul wide open.

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If I would have said, no, I think I'm going to stay here,

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what I would have missed. The
other major choice that I made is

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I chose to jump off the cliff
to restart my management consulting practice and focus

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it on meeting and purpose. I
didn't have a bunch of clients that needed

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00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.320
my work, but I just knew
this is my purpose. I need to

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do this. I'm choosing to embrace
the life that I'm being called to do.

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And I'm telling you that choice has
made all the difference in my world.

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I love that. I love that. As a matter of fact,

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that when you said that, it
made me think about whenever I decided to

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take the job at Armstrong Relocation.
I'd been a general manager for a company

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and I actually had when I took
this position, I had three offers on

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the table. Two of them were
similar to what I was doing, similar

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pay, but Armstrong was about a
fifty percent pay cut but the potential to

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make more. And I made the
choice to go to Armstrong, and that

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was that was a defining moment at
that time. But it was risky.

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It was risky. I have three
children, and I'm sure my wife was

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wondering, hey, is that the
right choice you want to make, But

581
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.480
you know what, I was following
my heart. I just had something pulling

582
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me saying you've just got to try
it and go for it right right.

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And that's another something else you have
in your book that's related to what we've

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been talking about. But the importance
of taking action and that doing so often

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00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.719
does come with risk. We've been
talking about that. But you know,

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I'm sure those three children enjoyed eating
dinner every night. Yeah, and so

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00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.480
did you and your wife, no
question, and it wasn't easy. And

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I'll tell you when we decide to
take action. There is a story I

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talked about and and I heard you
talk about on the show, your last

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show. I think you were talking
about being all in. It's similar to

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that, but it's a story I
heard about burning the boats, and your

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00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:19.840
listeners may have heard it. But
it's about when a Spanish army was going

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over to conquer an army of island
of warriors, and whenever they got over

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to the island, the general said, hey, burn all the boats.

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And they said, because you know, you got to burn the boats.

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There's no retreating. And I remember
sitting in my office when I took the

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00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.920
armstrong relocation job, thinking, Okay, I can do this, or I

598
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.079
can go back to doing what I
can't. I can go back to doing

599
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.599
what I was doing. But you
really can have one foot in and one

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00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.960
foot out. You have to draw
the line in the sand and you have

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to burn the boats. Whatever you
decide to do, you just have to

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00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.239
go for it. You just have
to go for it. And so I

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00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:00.960
think that for me, that was
a big pivotal, pivotal moment. There

604
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.880
is so much about just putting yourself
all in and not having one foot out,

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00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.719
you know, just out here,
just kind of tiptoeing to see what

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00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.440
else you might anchor into and run
from this current situation. That it's so

607
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.480
important, it's so orienting. I
think many times that's what we do.

608
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:20.159
Like we talked about networking earlier,
we go to a networking event and then

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00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.760
we skip a couple and then we
go to whatever it is we're doing.

610
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.519
We have one foot in and we
have one foot out. We're like,

611
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.840
you know what, if it doesn't
work, we'll do this. And it's

612
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really about just drawing the line on
the line in the sand, just saying

613
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I'm burning the boats, I'm going
for it. I'm going to be all

614
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in and just see what happens well. And that goes to my world right

615
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where I'm always talking about the importance
of cultivating meaning passion, inspiration, and

616
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purpose. When you jump in like
that, you're given of yourself. And

617
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that's what I call passion. When
whatever it is that you're giving of yourself,

618
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pouring of yourself into something else,
that's passion. Passion is irresistible.

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It gives you energy, gives your
juice, It helps you better relate to

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stress. It works. I agree
you, and we also need to gauge

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on Okay, what do we go
all in? You can't go all in

622
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on everything. You have to pick
your spots, right, And so I'm

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asked to serve on other boards,
and I have to really decide which boards

624
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can I be all in on,
because if I really can't be all in,

625
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it doesn't serve the organization or mean
well well well. And that might

626
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also speak to one of the other
things that I really enjoyed about your book.

627
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You've got a section in your book
called dreaming big when Planning Excellence.

628
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Oh, I remember that section because
I wrote that section that was really about

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goals, and you know what it
comes down to. I was actually somebody

630
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had actually posted on Twitter yesterday and
they said, Hey, I have a

631
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goal. I want to try to
reach one hundred followers on my blog in

632
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twenty twenty. And my response is, let's dream bigger. So dreaming bigger

633
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means times that times five or times
at times ten. It might be five

634
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hundred, it might be one thousand. But whenever you times at times ten,

635
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what happens. You can't do it
by yourself, so you have to

636
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really pull in other resources. But
I just like to just dream big,

637
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and when I'm doing it, I
really want to go for excellence along the

638
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way. So Dallas HR, we
have an Executive Breakfast series that has won

639
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.960
a Pinnacle Award through Shurm, and
this is for Executive HR professionals. We

640
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have the breakfast three times a year. But before I was president, we

641
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just had a little roundtable and we
had a few people show up and we

642
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.000
decided to stop the program. A
couple of years later, we said,

643
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okay, let's start it up again, BEF, We're going to do it.

644
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Let's do it with excellence. And
so today we have and it's a

645
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sold out group each time for that
part. So it's an excellent program now.

646
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And so I think it all comes
down to let's let's let's let's dream

647
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big, and let's do it with
everything we've got. I love that and

648
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I also think to me what that
speaks to when I know when I'm working

649
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with leaders inside organizations and I'm doing
coaching, we talk about the importance of

650
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standing in the future you want to
live into. And so we're talking about

651
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living in excellence. If we stand
today in a in a in an environment

652
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.199
of excellence, and we let that
pull us forward. That's that's where we

653
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.519
can always draw juice from being inspired
by and say at the same time,

654
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while living and reaching toward that,
we inspire others to come with us.

655
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I love that and people and people
want to be around they want to be

656
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.800
around energy, they want to be
around success. They want to be with

657
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:45.599
you on that journey. Oh,
it's it's invigorating. And to that end,

658
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:47.280
Tie has a question here, and
I'm not sure what she means by

659
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:51.599
maybe you know, how do you
pick your spots? Oh, that's a

660
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.519
great, great question, And I
think it really comes down to what I

661
00:44:53.559 --> 00:45:00.440
talked about earlier, is it does
it align with my grow, connect and

662
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:02.599
move? I mean, because when
I'm looking at do it that, I

663
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want to make sure that's in alignment. A lot of times I talk about

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also, I talk about the importance
of values, being a values driven leader,

665
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.119
and I think that here's one of
the things I did put in my

666
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book, and that is when your
values are clear, choices are easier to

667
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make along the journey. I so
agree with that. Yeah, and so,

668
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and then you know, I may
during the process, I may pick

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something that aligns more with me versus
going for achievement right alignment or I talk

670
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.360
a lot about alignment over achievement.
Something that might align with me more,

671
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:44.559
it may not. I may not
get paid more or make whatever it is.

672
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.760
You know, I may not get
more, but it allows but I

673
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:51.840
feel fulfilled. And that's really what
I'm going for is is that you know

674
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.880
that fulfillment and being aligned with who
I am and the values that I'm driving

675
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.760
that I'm in that boat all day
long. I love it. A couple

676
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.599
more questions for you, because we're
almost out of time already. Fun It's

677
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.239
an amazing power telling you. What
I found out is what happens on this

678
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.840
show is time goes backwards. I
don't know what happens goes away. Okay,

679
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.000
what's something else you have in your
book that says invest in yourself to

680
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.440
inspire others? Of course, you
know, I'm completely aligned with that idea,

681
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:20.039
and I do feel that that's what
I do on this show. So

682
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.800
I really do invest in my own
growth and thought leadership to educate and inspire

683
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.559
my listeners while doing the same for
myself. This is a thought leadership platform

684
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.280
for me that catalyzes my development and
I share with my listeners as I'm going

685
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:36.519
through the process. I love that. So what else do you do to

686
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:42.880
invest in in yourself? Well,
I'm constantly doing some kind of an educational

687
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.880
course. For example, I continue
my training in logo therapy. So I've

688
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.239
been I've been a student this whole
year in logo therapy. I'm a student.

689
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.719
I take exams, the whole bit, and that's part of what I

690
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.719
use. That that research and that
inquiry, Bruce, is what I also

691
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.639
use to always further refine my leadership
development work, my program and how I

692
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.360
coach. So where I'm going with
that is that you're busy. You're a

693
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.679
very busy person, slightly and I'm
busy as well. As a matter of

694
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.000
fact, one of the things I
started doing in twenty eighteen is I wanted

695
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.159
to learn to play the piano.
Oh yes, And so I started taking

696
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:22.159
piano lessons and I have now been
taken them for since May of twenty eighteen,

697
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.039
and many times I think to myself, oh, man, I don't

698
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:29.079
have time for this, But each
time I go the lesson, I'm like,

699
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.800
I'm so glad I went. And
so I think we have to continue

700
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:38.199
to invest because again I think I
mentioned earlier is that the more we grow,

701
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.039
the more we can share with others
absolutely along along the way, right,

702
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:45.760
I want to learn to play the
piano because I just want to.

703
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.000
I don't want to really learn to
be Beethoven. I want to learn to

704
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.800
just play a few Christmas songs from
my grandkids. I got that. I

705
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.440
learned piano as well for that for
the same reason. And today these today

706
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.079
what I'm into. I'm taking tangle
lessons. I love every Sunday tango and

707
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:04.039
I'm having more fun than I'm supposed
to. Don't tell anybody. I'm like

708
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.239
the ten man on the Wizard of
Oz. I need that all for my

709
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.920
dance moves. It's awesome. So
we're all we're out of time. So

710
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.199
really quick, what do you want
to leave our listeners with? Well,

711
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:17.480
I just I just saw a note
where someone says talking about it, says,

712
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.760
you have to help others without waiting
for feedback. Thank you. This

713
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:22.719
is Kim, And this is what
I'd say, and this is what I

714
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.599
would leave with you, is that
use the one hundred zero role, give

715
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:32.280
one hundred percent, expect zero,
just give and just give and good things

716
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.960
will happen. So that would be
where I would leave. So Kim,

717
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.719
we can thank you for for curing
that that serve back up into the audience.

718
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:43.039
Thank you very much for that comment. And Bruce, thank you for

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joining us on working on a Purpose. It's been a pleasure to have you.

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Thank you for having me. It's
been a fun listeners. If you

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want to learn more about Bruce Waller, the work he's doing with his team

722
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:54.760
at Armstrong Companies, or his books, visit his website it's Bruce Waller dot

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com. That's b r UCEE W
A L L E. Bruce Waller dot

724
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com. Last week, if you
missed a live show, you can always

725
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.480
catch it be recorded podcast. We
are on the air with director Carl Munger,

726
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:12.119
who is the founder and executive director
of gall Few. It's a nonprofit

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00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.000
helping military veterans transition from active duty
to civilian lives of hope and purpose.

728
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:20.840
We talked about how and why Carl
founder this organization and the incredible work they

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are doing to support veterans. Next
week will be on the air with doctor

730
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.440
gen Wright, who is the author
of Fine Strength in Your Struggle, Discover

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the Miracle and You. We'll be
talking about his book and the gifts we

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can gain from dealing with trauma.
See you there. Remember that worker at

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least a third of our life.
So let's work on Purpose. We hope

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you've enjoyed this week's program. Be
sure to tune in to Working on Purpose,

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featuring your host Alis Cortes, each
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This week, find your life's purpose
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