Finding Your Lane and Key Lessons Learned from Business Leaders

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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,

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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortez. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and

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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five. It's working

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on Purpose. Now Here is your
host, Elise Cortez. Welcome back to

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the Working on Purpose Show. Thanks
between me and again this week, I'm

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your host, Elise Cortez. Jo
a new live from Dallas, which is

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home base for me. If you've
been tuning in for a while, you

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know this program is all about helping
people create more meaningful and purposeful lives and

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equipping leaders, insight organizations to cultivate
meaning and purpose than elicits passion inspired contribution,

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innovation and persevering performance. I talk
with my guest to draw on their

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expertise, and I share my own
experience consulting, speaking in helping work courses

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across the globe. Each week,
in these conversations, I hope you walk

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away with something you can immediately use
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let's open a conversation about what's going
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be able to help. Whether you
want to learn more about how to develop

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purpose inspired leadership and meaning infuse culture
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own passion and purpose, or you'd
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conference and you're rate, I'm glad, we're connected, and thanks for listening.

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Now onto this week's program with us. Right next to me is Bruce

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Waller. He's the vice president of
Corporate Relocation for Armstrong Relocation and Companies and

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the author of a leadership book called
Find Your Lane to inspire people with a

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career GPS approach to help them navigate
a career with purpose. He also currently

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serves on Dallas HR Board of Trustees
as well as Texas Cherm's State Council as

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District West Leader, District Director District
Director. We'll be taught talking about his

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experience working with sharm and Dallas HR
and what that's taught him and also some

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leadership lessons he's learned from talking with
and working with executives over his career.

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He's sitting right next to me in
my Dallas office studio and we're also broadcasting

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on Facebook livestream. Bruce, Welcome
to Working on Purpose. Thanks for having

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me the least. It's great to
be here and see you again, isn't

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it fun? It's very fun.
Last time we talked, I think it

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was the Starbucks. It was lots
of energy. Had a great time to

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look forward to talking again. Likewise, and you're the one that introduced me

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to Adrian Court and we had a
great conversation about culture. Thanks. I'm

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all time favorites Adrian Ye excellent alchemy
technologies, right, So thank you for

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that that connection. And to start
off, you whipped out this little cards

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you've got here. Let's talk about
that I did, and that's kind of

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like what we're doing here. So
we're going to talk a little bit about

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scharm. But I have this card
and this card is Convos and Coffee,

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and this is a charm. This
is a Scherm campaign that they are using

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to try to create better workplaces,
which will make a better world. And

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it's all about starting a conversation.
This particular interesting, This particular start a

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conversation actually ask a question for employees
to be able to talk to others in

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the workplace and open up conversations.
So it's pretty Nate, Okay, I

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want to talk about that really quick, and then I want to kick into

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what we have what we have planned
here, and also definitely want to hear

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from our listeners. Whether you're coming
in via the chat room on WFCY dot

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com or whether you're coming in through
the Facebook livestream, Please join us.

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You have any questions or comments,
chime in. But what I want to

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point out about this card you're holding, which is really cool, is it

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says the topic is only one of
two employees claimed to understand the vision and

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goals of their organization. And so
you've got this queued up here. It

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says, discuss the time you felt
confused about your organization's vision and goals.

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So you're opening a channel of conversation
between employees. Isn't that great? It's

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brilliant. And so this actually was
at the national conference and they had a

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place in the marketplace set up to
where attendees at the conference could go and

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sit on the couch, have a
cup of coffee and have a conversation.

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And I think you're going to hear
more and more about this. I think

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it's an incredible campaign and it's really
going to drive culture well. And what

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I love about that and what's so
important about that And for our listeners who

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don't know will memium my sure,
it stands for the Society for Human Resource

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Management. So if you've not heard
that acronym before, there's only a million

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of them on the planet. That's
what that stands for. What I like

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about that is the importance of being
able to create engaged communities at work.

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We spend at least of our lives
at work, and if we're not connected

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to the people we're working with,
it it's an empty experience. Oh,

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no question, no question at all. So I want to start by talking

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about your brand. I love this. This is so great to see what

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you have for your brand. To
her, your brand is people grower,

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people connector, and a people mover. I think that's just splendid, it's

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so crisp, it's so clear.
Tell us what that means for you.

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Yeah, really that really came from
a exercise that I did. Jennifer McClure,

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or the CEO of Unbridled Talent,
was doing some branding exercises. So

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I just I'm going to go through
the exercise, and that is what I

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came out. And So when I
think about people grower, people connector and

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people move her, I think about, okay, what what I want to

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do? What's purpose for me is
about being in alignment with grow, connect,

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and move. So, for example, I want to grow because I

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know that I can help other people
grow. I want to connect because I

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can help other people connect. I
can help people connect with the resources if

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I learn more. And then of
course move. I want to move inspire

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people. But also I work for
a relocation company and I want to help

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them move their family as well.
We mean move in all manners. That's

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so great. But what about dancing? Can we move today? Yeah?

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I think my wife would tell you
I'm probably not a good dancer. Okay,

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skip that, Mark, Okay,
So let me let me call a

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lot of people that just joyed us
here, Deborain, Great to have you,

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Veronica Perez Thomas, and great to
have your Brenda Gray's rocking it,

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and again she LETMANI great to have
you, sal Ghetto, It's so great

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to have you and Crystal or we
had you on as well, and Andrew

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as well, So thank you for
joining us. It's great to have you.

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So the next thing I want to
get into for our listeners, since

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you have a unique lens on this, since you're part of Society for Human

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Resource Management and Dallas HR, can
you first help us understand what's happening with

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Sharon. What's the focus, what
are they cared about these days? Yeah,

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I think when I talked earlier about
better workplaces, a better world,

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I think you're really seeing a real
shift. And what's happening is a new

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CEO has come into playing that's Johnny
C. Taylor, very charismatic and he's

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just doing a great job of moving
everyone in the right direction. And they've

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got some campaigns and the campaigns what
I'm seeing is really around what we've seen,

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but he's really been able to frame
it, and it's around recruiting and

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retention right, and so around recruiting, there's a couple of campaigns going on.

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Number one is getting talent back to
work, and you're seeing a lot

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on this and this is about second
chance employees, and I'll talk a little

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bit more about that, and then
also Veterans back to Work. I know

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you had a guest on recently talking
about military there's almost twenty thousand military veterans

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coming into the workforce a month.
I mean that's two hundred thousand a year,

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and so trying to figure out how
do we help them deploy get back

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into the workplace. I love that. I really appreciate that. And yes,

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you're talking about my conversation with Karl
Monger, who started A Few,

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a Gallant Few, and it was
a great conversation about how he helps veterans

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transition from military life to civilian life. Beautiful work that they're doing. So

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thank you for knowing and hearing about
that. Yeah. Yeah, As a

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matter of fact, one of the
one of the programs is the Veterans Back

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to Work program. It's really it's
really being driven by the Sherman Foundation and

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that particular program. What they're doing
is they're offering a certificate to these HR

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professionals to help them with best practices
and focus on attracting, hiring and retaining

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veterans and really the recruiting, hiring
and retention of engagement in military, and

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so these HR professionals can go in
and really consume this education, get a

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certificate, and they're going to be
better equipped to be able to try to

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help the military get back into the
workplace. I think it's incredible. I

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think it's it's we owe that to
our veniments. Absolutely, so I think

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that's fantastic work. So what about
you said something about the mission driven connection

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with within Texas Charm, the role
of that in supporting the chapter leadership.

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I don't understand that connection. Say
more about that, Yeah, sure,

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absolutely. So CHARM is made up
of three hundred thousand plus members and effects

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over a million employees, and they
have these state councils all over the US,

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and so Texas Charm is really an
organization that is mission driven. And

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what I mean by that is their
mission is to support and connect chapter leaders

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to elevate the HR profession. And
they do that through edge, they do

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that through advocacy, and they do
that through leadership development. So it's all

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about helping these chapters thirty two in
the state of Texas and support twenty thousand

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SHAM members to just be more equipped
in the HR profession. And really not

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only help the HR professional but also
elevate the HR profession I love that.

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And how did you get involved?
I mean, that's quite a big job,

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my dear. I mean, I've
already got a full time job.

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You've got a family, you're writing
books. I mean, what else are

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you doing? H No, it's
a great story. I actually joined the

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Armstrong Relocation in two thousand and four, and I had been on the management

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side of operations, and so I
decided that I wanted to get in on

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the really the marketing side of our
business. And so I joined Armstrong Relocation

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in two thousand and four, and
immediately I thought, Okay, I need

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to figure out who do I need
to talk to and how can I engage

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And so of course I went out
and I networked with many, many different

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groups. There are lots of groups
out there, by the way, that

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you can network within. You just
got to find your lane. And we're

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gonna talk about that. But for
me, my lane was Dallas HR,

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which is the third largest SHARAM chapter
in the country, by the way,

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right here in Dallas, Texas and
the North Texas Relocation Professionals. So in

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Dallas HR, it's very interesting,
really it was all about showing up,

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of volunteering and really leaning in to
figure out how can you serve the organization?

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Right, that's when things change.
And so I joined the organization in

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two thousand five and became president in
two twelve, served on the board of

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trustees as I do today, and
then in two nineteen ohs as to be

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part of the Texas State Council.
Thank you for your leadership and your service

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where you're awesome, really really important
work. I want to acknowledge out of

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our listeners here. It came on
through w Forcy the chat room. David,

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you were asking about vents. I
believe we answered that question earlier,

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but just in case you want,
if you want to know more, go

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ahead and back into the into the
chat room. Think if your question and

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for your engagement. Thanks for listening, absolutely right, good stuff, Absolutely

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good. I'd love to connect with
you and continue the conversation. So David's

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to hear that if you want to
reach out to Bruce, at the end

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of the show, we'll talk about
how to find him. All right,

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So let me ask you this.
You know, I can't resist asking this

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because I'm a researcher, I'm a
social scientist, and I'm always going to

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ask the why questions. What is
it about this work that so fulfills you,

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so that so engages, that keeps
you so at work at it over

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these years. You know, I
really for me, it's all about being

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able to I've been through, you
know when I wrote my book, and

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we'll talk about that, Find Your
Lane. I talk a lot about challenges

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and failures and successes, and I'm
to a point where I just feel like

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I have a platform to be able
to help people. And so my gift

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really, I think is encouraging encouraging
people that listen. There are ways and

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there are strange that you can use
to have more fulfillment, have more joy,

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have more purpose in your work.
But it's going to start with with

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us. Well, I think that
is absolutely brilliant. I want to hear

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more about that. We're going to
we're going to serve that up through some

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of the questions. I know that
you have. You've got at least ten

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lessons that you learned from taught business
leaders that you talk about in your book,

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and I want to talk about that
next. But I think now is

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a good time to grab our first
break. I'm elist Cortez, your host.

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We've been on the air with Bruce
Waller. He's the vice president of

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corporate Relocation for Armstrong Relocation and Companies
and the author of a leadership book called

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Find Your Lane to inspire people with
the GPS approach to help them navigate a

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career with purpose. We've been talking
a bit about his leadership roles here in

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the society society from resource management and
what he's learned about being in the field

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and why he's so passionate about it. After the break, we're going to

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talk about those ten lessons he's learned
FRO business leaders. Stay with us,

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We'll be right back. Alist Cortez
is speaker and engagement and development catalyst.

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She designs and delivers professional development,
leadership and engagement workshops and can bring her

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expertise to your organization. She will
help ignite meaningful development within your workforce that

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will increase employee engagement, performance and
retention. To learn more or to invite

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a lease to speak to your organization, please visit her at www dot Elise

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Cortez dot com. She would welcome
the opportunity to help get your employees working

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on purpose. This is working on
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Thanks for staying with us, and

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welcome back to working on Purpose if
you just join us. My guest is

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Bruce Waller. He's the vice president
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and he also currently serves on the
Dallas HR Board of Trustees as well

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as the Texas Sherm State Council as
a District Director. I'm your host,

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Alice Cortez. So before we get
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acknowledge a listener we have on W
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see you've got a question. You
said You're not a question, you're comment

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and you're saying I find networking so
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And I wonder if maybe what Bruce
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you. He said that he went
and he volunteered for this organization that he

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cares about. He became of service
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then pretty soon before you knew it, you know, he's got a leadership

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role. I wonder if that's a
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while being of service and connecting meaningfully
with others. Hey, I'm just going

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to say networking is hard. Yeah, if it were, if it were

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easy, everybody be doing it.
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I say. I say that whenever
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a real quick story. There's a
story I heard where a lady worked for

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two gentlemen. So one of them
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was an income leader. And somebody
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the two leaders, and she said, well, the first leader was very

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interesting, but the second leader,
he was very interested. And so for

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me, it was about when I
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mind set to go there to learn
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able to somehow connect with them and
help them versus whatever you whatever your agenda

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is, And so that's kind of
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about and I put in my book, it's about showing up and trying to

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figure out how can I learn and
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helps. That's beautiful. I hope
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and thanks for chiming in in the
chat room. That's beautiful, and that

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actually goes right into the very first
leadership lesson that you talk about in your

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book, and that's served first.
Before we get into that, share a

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little bit about how you learn these
lessons and why you you you've got ten

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in your book, why did you
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did you after them? Yeah,
So, whenever I started working for Armstrong

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Relocation, I wanted to be different. I didn't want to be known as

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a sales guy. I wanted to
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a trusted advisor. And so I
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newsletter for many years, and then
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twenty eleven. And in my blog
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dot com. But in my blog, I started writing about relocation. Well,

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unless you're relocating, it's really not
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relocating, it's very, very,
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Okay, well I'm going to start
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started writing about leadership. In twenty
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little bit different, and I interviewed
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These were leaders of oil and gas
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corporations, these were professors in verses, and I asked them and I called

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it a be a Lifter interview series. And so what I wanted to find

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out from them was I'd asked ten
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where'd you grow up? What books
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question I ask is what advice would
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And when I got through with all
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and I thought how impactful and how
pragmatic it is for these senior leaders to

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be sharing that this is what I
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to have success in your career.
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And of course the first one served
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you're a perfect walking billboard of that. It's really beautiful, it's inspiring.

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Thank you, So sir, first
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and meant by that, well,
it's just like when we were talking

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about networking earlier. It's about having
a mindset of how can I the people

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that I meet, Whether it's in
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children? How can I serve my
wife? It is in your workplace,

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how can I be a better employee? How can I serve you? And

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a lot of times when I think
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refer back to the Wayne Gretsky term, don't skate to the puck, skate

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to where the puck's going. Anticipate
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anticipate what or maybe you're maybe you
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and maybe anticipate some of the questions
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them well. And so it's about
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how can I help them? Because
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others, it will come back in
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listeners, if you want to start
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the first. The first leadership lesson
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never stop learning. Say a little
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I mean when I was in college, I really thought when I was done,

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my degree, no more learning.
There's a there's a slogan at Nikeness says

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there is no finish line. And
that's true for learning, continuous learning.

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I'm learning all the time. I'm
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about is when we have a never
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going to whatever that is, that you're

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able to take that information and you're
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can help them along the way.
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If you can look behind me,
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stream, and you see my bookshelf
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that I'm a radio show host with
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book in preparation for this conversation.
So till fully enforced, and I'll just

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say just to never stop learning.
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no longer in an HR practitioner seat. I was in a business leader seat,

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but I still took the PHR certification
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certified so I could understand the HR
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brilliant, brilliant, okay less than
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Who doesn't like to feel appreciated.
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thank you, or hey, you're
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feels good. I love to be
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all chime in with that is and
the years before when I was focused on

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doing employee engagement assessments and consulting,
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employee engagement was feeling valued and appreciate
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like, hey, I showed up
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the vice president of sales put a
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doing a great job, and it
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the word you used. It made
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me work harder. Absolutely, that's
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you're doing to be present to be
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to be able to to be in
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catch somebody's contribution in the act if
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Philosophy, Oh my goodness, isn't
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better together, aren't we. And
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but I think we can all agree
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something by ourselves, and then when
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just feels different, doesn't it.
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much better with people. Yes,
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it's not just accomplishing, it's about
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I was sharing the story one time
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myself, and how it just didn't
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others. I couldn't engage and bring
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of that, And so accomplishing isn't
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just togetherness. I love that.
It's yummy okay, Number five lesson mentors

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are key for growth. Oh my
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that, But you go first.
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it weren't for mentors in my life, I wouldn't be where I am today.

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My brother's been a great mentor.
I have people in my company has

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been a great mentor. I have
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authors that don't even know that I'm
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that I have them. So mentors
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you going to say about I want
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we do have a question here from
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in just a second. I want
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both know that they mean a lot
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to keep saying thank you loudly and
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fired me at age nineteen. He
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I could do something way more with
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And he said, if you stay
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said, you got to get out
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the world. And you've got to
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hire your replacement, Boom, there's
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mean really, the guy opened my
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Roland. I love you, you
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Number two Sean Anderson, love you
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and has still bend for at least
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be living my purpose today without John
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helping me along the way, encouraging
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my mindset in my roadblocks, I
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the work that I'm doing today.
I love that. Wow, isn't that

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day? And I've never heard a
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and You're a great mentor in my
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incredible testimony. We are still in
touch's he's eighty three years old. I

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hope him plan is. I think
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We celebrated that he's still out inventing
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actually have a mentorship program, and
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able to mentor college students. My
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from Texas Women's University, and then
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is with a UTD. And one
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with Morgan is I decided that I'm
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going to reach out and we went
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that we're in the workplace, and
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asked them questions and we called it
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not only for Morgan, but the
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and then even myself. It was
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people all the time, when you're
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and connectivity, can they help you
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That's beautiful, Bruce, Okay,
let's keep chugging. I want to make

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sure that we give up the whole
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from Business Leaders is always evaluate where
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that's very important, and that goes
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I think we're hearing a lot and
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finish line. Whenever I achieve a
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to be where. I need to
evaluate where I'm at today and what do

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do I need to connect with and
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better. I really applaud that,
not just because it's smacking and lean that

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I work that I do, but
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sometimes that's that's hard. I remember
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landed my first account, I was
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and I got so down and I
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you really just have a have to
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say, just this morning, I
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told me that in his previous lay
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world, he was a preacher and
he said, you would not believe how

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people revere you in that role.
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still have all of our own flaws
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have a failing makes us better attitude? Love that please? Oh yes,

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failing. Who likes to fail?
Raise your hand? Not me? But

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you know that failing is just part
of the process. And the more we

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fail, the better we will get
from that. And unfortunately we don't like

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to do it, but it's going
to make us better. And I have

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a story I share many times.
I shared it in my book about a

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time when I failed. I was
working as a manager and we were had

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pot holes in our parking lot,
and I failed because I didn't collaborate.

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I didn't bring others with me on
my journey. I basically made the decision

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to go ahead and have the work
done. And it was really it was

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kind of it was really a scam, and you can read about it.

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But what happened was I just wanted
potholes field in the parking lot. And

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whenever I came to work the next
day, the whole entire parking lot was

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paved brand new. And I thought, oh my gosh, I'm going to

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get fired, and I what is
this going to cost? And so,

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uh, you know, I learned, and I think the thing about it

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is for failures, this we just
need to learn from that work fail just

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accept it. I mean, it's
not fun going through that at the time.

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But like you talked about earlier,
you know, with your job,

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you know you got fired, it
could be considered a failure. Yeah,

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but I'm so grateful for that.
Right. But I've been studying a fair

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amount on failure and I've had a
couple of guests talking about at the top

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me a lot about failure, and
one of the things they talk about is

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if the opportunity is to face that
failure as okay, I've found out another

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way it doesn't work, and to
keep moving. It's if we get stopped

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in our tracks because of our failure, then we've kind of missed the opportunity.

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It's that thing to step back in
the game. You put your hand

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back in the fire if you will, once you have failed. That's where

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the rubber really meets the road.
I think there's one acronym I put in

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my book and I got it from
a good friend, Terry Forrest, and

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he says, fear is false evidence
that appears real. And it's just like,

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hey, do I need to make
a call. Do I need to

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have that tough conversation? I mean, you may, you may fail from

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it, but the good news is
we learn from it. Yeah, and

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to encourage that learning mentality. Two
more really quick, and I want to

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get Bob's questions before were going our
break. Number nine is add value to

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others. Yeah. I think that's
probably the most important thing we can do.

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And any job is figuring out how
can we add value. The company

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has hired us to come in and
help them achieve their business goals. But

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we are also expected to figure out
how can we continue to add value.

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I mean, whether it's through positivity, through just having resources, through when

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your network and finding different ways to
help the company. I think that we've

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got to figure out how can I
help my co worker, how can I

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add value to the company, how
can add value to my network, whatever

447
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it is, continually looking for that, I'm down with that entirely. Number

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ten last leadership lesson here is surround
yourself with great people. Yeah. I

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would say that's probably for me.
That's what advice I would give anyone.

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And when you're around great people,
good things happen. Right. I think

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I've read something one time that you're
the average of the five people that you're

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surrounded by, and so I think
that anytime you surround yourself with great people,

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ate things are going to happen.
I completely agree. I'm just going

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to mention on that add value to
those as well. It's you know that

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also is about take basically you taking
the initiative or us taking the initiative to

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go out and read a book,
to go out and listen to an audible,

457
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to go out and get that certification. Figure. Always looking for ways

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to get better, to add value
to your company as well. Here here,

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Yeah, that brings me back to
my problem. I'm a radio show

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host with a reading problem. No
problem it. I love your bookcase.

461
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.440
Thank you. Well, I'm out
of rumors you could see. Okay,

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So Bob, you're our last question
before we go on break Here he says,

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do you think everyone can be a
leader? I do. I think

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that if you want to be a
leader, you can be a leader.

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And I think that starts with making
the choices right, making choices and developing

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habits to help you get better.
Not you know me personally, if I

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was wanting to be a better leader, I would go find a good leader

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and have a conversation with them.
Yeah. I agree. Wonderful way the

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citizen onto our breakboard question. Yeah, Bob, thanks for that question.

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Time for a break. I'm your
host, Elise Cortez. We've been in

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the air with Bruce Waller. He's
the vice president of Corporate Relocation for Armstorm

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00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:15.000
Relocation and Companies and the author of
a leadership book called Finder Lane. To

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00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.079
inspire people with her career GPS approach
to helping them navigate a career with purpose.

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You judge it today from my studio
office right here next to me in

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Dallas. We're also broadcasting live on
Facebook Livestream. After the break, we're

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going to talk more about some key
points from his book. Stay with us,

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We'll be right back. Alice Cortez
is a speaker and engagement and development

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catalyst. She designs and delivers professional
development, leadership and engagement workshops and can

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bring her expertise to your organization.
She will help ignite meaningful development within your

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workforce that will increase employee engagement,
performance and retention. To learn more or

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to invite a last to speak to
your organization, please visit her at www

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dot Elise Cortez dot com. She
would welcome the opportunity to help get your

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employees working on purpose. This is
working on Purpose with Elise Cortez. To

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reach our program today, send an
email to Elise ali Se at Elise Cortez

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dot com. Now back to working
on Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,

486
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.559
and welcome back to working on Purpose. If you're just tuning in,

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my guest is Bruce Waller. He's
the vice president of Corporate Relocation for Armstrong

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Relocation and companies. He's also currently
serving as on the Dallas HR Board of

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Trustees as well as Texas SCHRM State
cancel as district Director. I'm your host,

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Elise Cortez. Before we go back, if we can, Bruceless technolog

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a few of folks that just joined
us, we have any Lavati. Lavati

492
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is my what I call my brother
from from from Oregon. Pla Romano,

493
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miss you terribly. Vasht right is
my actually I call her my right hand

494
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.359
publicist and business manager. I thank
you for joining us. It's so great

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to have you with us. Okay, So for this last segment here,

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Bruce, let's bring it home from
your book. So let me show this

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book to the folks that this is. This is the book here folks on

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Facebook livestream that we're gonna be talking
from here. But I just wanted to

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give a few pearls that I thought
really stood out as I went through and

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read the book. Bruce, there's
a couple of things. One I want

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to talk about this thing about defining
moments. I think that is such an

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important part of our conscious self awareness
journey. So there was a couple pieces

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in there that I that resonated for
me as I thought about that, But

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what are a couple of those defining
moments for you? First of all,

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thank you for reading my book.
I really appreciate that. Absolutely. Yeah,

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whenever I get people want to talk
about the book, I get so

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00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.840
excited. That's still so excited,
so it'll be my turn. When I

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finished people, I can't wait.
I was going to ask you about that.

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So I think that, yeah,
we have defining moment and we all

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know what those defining moments are,
and it's a matter of did we take

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action on those defining moments just one
in particular. There have been so many

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in my career, but really,
for me, my first defining moment was

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deciding to show up my first day
of college to a college fraternity party.

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And what happened was is I moved
to a city at University of Central Oklahoma

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and Edmund and I was living with
my grandmother. I didn't know anybody there.

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I went to the sporting goods store
to buy a college book bag and

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there was a man by the name
of John Pellow and he said, hey,

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you know, are you going to
school here? And I said yes,

519
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And he said, well, you
ought to come by this fraternity party.

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Tonight, and I was like,
okay, I'll do it. And

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so I went to the fraternity party
and I pulled up and there was lots

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of loud music, lots of cars, and I got out. I pulled

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in a part. I got out
of my car and I walked about three

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steps and I heard a guy say
you can't park there. And immediately I

525
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.480
froze and I'm like, oh no, I need to get my car and

526
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I need to just leave. And
so I got in my car. I

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00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.400
moved my car. And so my
defining moment was I got to the stop

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sign. I could turn left and
go back to back home, or I

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could turn right and go into that
face the party, the fear. We're

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00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.880
talking about this fear early. And
so anyway I did. I did go

531
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back in. I've got a lot
of people there, but that's where I

532
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:34.719
met my wife that during that time, and so that was a defining moment.

533
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.000
I mean, I could have not
made that decision. I also had

534
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:44.079
that even with a lot of times
defining moments for me I've been through,

535
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.920
like networking, right making that having
the courage to make that choice to say,

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you know what, here's the defining
moment I've got to embrace it.

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I love that, I love it. And this is similar but not quite

538
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the same. And that's about choices. You've got a section of your book

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that's that's called Your Choices Shape You, and I think that's incredibly profound.

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So if you can give our listeners
a couple of ideas about how to navigate

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choices. And I want to share
one or two choices that really many difference

542
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for me. I think when it
comes to choices, I mean, I

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think that we all have choices,
right, we have the choice to get

544
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.360
up early or sleep in. We
have the choice to be positive or negative,

545
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or how we're going to respond to
something, or we have the choice

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to go take that certification. And
I think that we just have to make

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good choices every day and surround ourselves
around good people to make those good choices.

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And I talked about that in my
book, and I talked about John

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Maxwell has a section on there about
some of the choices that you make.

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We'll make you in time. Oh
it's beautiful. Just two choices that I

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want to share, and both of
them were risky. Okay, So in

552
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.639
my mid twenties, I was twenty
five years old and I was dating man

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00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.960
at the time, and after a
month of dating, he said, I'm

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going to get moved to Spain,
Madrid, Spain, and he and I

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00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.880
said, you're going to a great
that's fantastic, what a great opportunity.

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And he says, I think you
should come with me, And so four

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months later I did. I followed
this man that I knew for four months

558
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and moved to Spain, Madrid,
Spain. We went. We lived there

559
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for six months, went all over
Western Europe, and then we got moved

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to Rio de Janeiro and was there
for two years, went all over South

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America. That experience rocked my world, totally opened my mind and heart and

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soul wide open. If I would
have said no, I think I'm going

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to stay here, what I would
have missed. The other major choice that

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I made is I chose to jump
off the cliff to restart my management consulting

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practice and focus it on meeting and
purpose. I didn't have a bunch of

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clients that needed my work, but
I just knew this is my purpose.

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I need to do this. I'm
choosing to embrace the life that I'm being

568
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called to do. And I'm telling
you that choice has made all difference in

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my world. I love that.
I love that. As a matter of

570
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.880
fact, that when you said that, it made me think about whenever I

571
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decided to take the job at Armstrong
Relocation. I'd been a general manager for

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00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.480
a company, and I actually had
when I took this position, I had

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three offers on the table. Two
of them were similar to what I was

574
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.480
doing, similar pay, but Armstrong
was about a fifty percent pay cut but

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the potential to make more. And
I made the choice to go to Armstrong

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and that that was a defining moment
at that time. But it was risky.

577
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It was risky. I have three
children, and I'm sure my wife

578
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was wondering, hey, is that
the right choice you want to make,

579
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:36.039
But you know what, I was
following my heart. I just had something

580
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.320
pulling me saying, you've just got
to try it, go for it right,

581
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.880
right. And that's another something else
you have in your book that's related

582
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.480
to what we've been talking about.
But the importance of taking action and that

583
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.360
doing so often does come with risk. We've been talking about that. But

584
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.559
you know, I'm sure those three
children enjoyed eating dinner every night. Yeah,

585
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:54.639
and so did you and your wife. No, question, and it

586
00:39:54.679 --> 00:40:00.679
wasn't easy. And I'll tell you
when we decide to take action. There

587
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is a story I talk about and
I heard you talk about on the show,

588
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.840
your last show. I think you
were talking about being all in.

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It's similar to that, but it's
a story I heard about burning the boats,

590
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:17.199
and your listeners may have heard it. But it's about when a Spanish

591
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:22.960
army was going over to conquer an
army of island of warriors, and whenever

592
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they got over to the island,
the general said, hey, burn all

593
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the boats. And they said,
because you know, you got to burn

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the boats. There's no retreating.
And I remember sitting in my office when

595
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I took the armstrong relocation job,
thinking, Okay, I can I can

596
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:42.360
do this, or I can go
back to doing what I can't. I

597
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.519
can go back to doing what I
was doing. But you really can't have

598
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.280
one foot in and one foot out. You have to draw the line in

599
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.519
the sand and you have to burn
the boats. Whatever you decide to do,

600
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you just have to go for it. You just have to go for

601
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.760
it. And so I think that
for me, that was a big pivotal

602
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:04.760
pivotal moments. There is so much
about just putting yourself all in and not

603
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.320
having one foot out, you know, just out here, just kind of

604
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.719
tiptoeing to see what else you might
anchor into and run from this current situation.

605
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:14.760
That is it's so important, it's
so orienting. I think many times

606
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.320
that's what we do. Like we
talked about networking earlier, we go to

607
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.039
a networking event and then we skip
a couple and then we go to whatever

608
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.960
it is we're doing. We have
one foot in and we have one foot

609
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.840
out. We're like, you know
what, if it doesn't work, we'll

610
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.519
do this. And it's really about
just drawing the line on the sand,

611
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.000
line in the sand, just saying
I'm burning the boats, I'm going for

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it. I'm going to be all
in and just see what happens well.

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And that goes to my world right
where I'm always talking about the importance of

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cultivating meaning passion, inspiration, and
purpose. When you jump in like that,

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you're given of yourself and that's what
we call I call passion. When

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whatever it is that you're giving of
yourself, pouring of yourself into something else,

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that's passion. Passion is irresistible.
It gives you energy, gives your

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juice, It helps you better relate
to stress. It works. Oh,

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I agree, and you and we
also need to gauge on Okay, what

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do we go all in? You
can't go all in on everything. You

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have to pick your spots right right, And so I'm asked to serve on

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other boards, and I have to
really decide which boards can I be all

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in on, because if I really
can't be all in, it doesn't serve

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the organization or me. Well,
well there, And that might also speak

625
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to one of the other things that
I really enjoyed about your book. You've

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got a section in your book called
Dreaming Big when Planning Excellence. Oh.

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I remember that section because I wrote
that section that was really about goals,

628
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and you know what it comes down
to. I was actually somebody had actually

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posted on Twitter yesterday and they said, Hey, I have a goal.

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I want to try to reach a
hundred followers on my blog in twenty twenty.

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And my response is, let's dream
bigger. So dreaming bigger means times

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times five or times at times ten. It might be five hundred, it

633
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might be a thousand. But whenever
you times at times ten, what happens.

634
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You can't do it by yourself.
So you have to really pull in

635
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other resources. But I just like
to just dream big, and when I'm

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doing it, I really want to
go for excellence along the way. So

637
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:30.480
Dallas HR we have an Executive Breakfast
series that has won a Pinnacle Award through

638
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Charm and this is for Executive HR
professionals. We have the breakfast three times

639
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a year. But before I was
president, we just had a little roundtable

640
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and we had a few people show
up and we decided to stop the program.

641
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A couple of years later, we
said, Okay, let's start it

642
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up again, but if we're going
to do it, let's do it with

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excellence. And so today we have
and it's a sold out group each time

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for that. So it's an excellent
program now. And so I think it

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all comes down to let's let's let's
let's dream big, and let's do it

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with everything we got. I love
that and I also think to me what

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that speaks to when I know when
I'm working with leaders inside organizations and I'm

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doing coaching, we talk about the
importance of standing in the future you want

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to live into, and so we're
talking about living in excellence. If we

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stand today and in an environment of
excellence and we let that pull us forward.

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That's that's where we can always draw
juice from being inspired by and at

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the same time, while living and
reaching toward that, we inspire others to

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come with us. I love that
and people and people want to be around

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they want to be around energy,
they want to be around success, they

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want to be with you on that
journey. Oh, it's it's invigorating.

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And to that end, Tie has
a question here, and I'm not sure

657
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what she means by by maybe you
know, how do you pick your spots?

658
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Oh, that's a great, great
question, And I think it really

659
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comes down to what I talked about
earlier. It does it align with grow,

660
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connect, and move? I mean, because when I'm looking at doing

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thing, I want to make sure
that's in alignment. A lot of times

662
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I talk about also, I talk
about the importance of values, being a

663
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values driven leader, and I think
that here's one of the things I did

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put in my book, and that
is when your values are clear, choices

665
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are easier to make along the journey. I so agree with that. Yeah,

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and so, and then you know, I may during the process,

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I may pick something that aligns more
with me versus going for achievement, right

668
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.719
alignment or I talk a lot about
alignment or achievement, something that might align

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with me more. It may not. I may not get paid more or

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make whatever it is. You know, I may not get more, but

671
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it allows people. But I feel
fulfilled. And that's really what I'm going

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for is is that you know that
fulfillment and being aligned with who I am

673
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and the values that I'm driving.
I mean that I'm in that boat all

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day long. I love it.
I love it. A couple more questions

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for you, because we're almost at
a time already. It's been fun.

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It's an amazing Tim telling you.
What I found out is what happens on

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00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.840
this show is time goes backwards.
I don't know what happens. It goes

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away. Okay, this. What's
something else you have in your book that

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says invest in yourself to inspire others? Of course, you know, I'm

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completely lined with that idea, and
I do feel that that's what I do

681
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.320
on this show. So I really
do invest in my own growth and thought

682
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.159
leadership to educate and inspire my listeners
while doing the same for myself. This

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is a thought leadership platform for me
that catalyzes my development and I share it

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with my listeners as I'm going through
the process. I love that. So

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what else do you do to invest
in yourself? Well, I'm constantly doing

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some kind of an educational course.
For example, I continue my training and

687
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.840
logo therapy. So I've been I've
been a student this whole year in logo

688
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:52.639
therapy. I'm a student. I
take exams, the whole bit, and

689
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that's part of what I use.
That that research and that inquiry, Bruce,

690
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.320
is what I also used to always
further refine my leadership development work,

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my program and how I coach.
So where I'm going with that is that

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you're busy, very busy person slightly
and I'm busy as well. As a

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00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.280
matter of fact, one of the
things I started doing in twenty eighteen is

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I wanted to learn to play the
piano. Oh yes, And so I

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00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:21.079
started taking piano lessons and I have
now been taken them for since May of

696
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.639
twenty eighteen, and many times I
think to myself, oh, man,

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00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.760
I don't have time for this,
But each time I go the lesson,

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I'm like, I'm so glad I
went. And so I think we have

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to continue to invest because again I
think I mentioned earlier is that the more

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we grow, the more we can
share with others. Absolutely along along the

701
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.440
way, right. I want to
learn to play the piano because I just

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00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.440
want to. I don't want to
really learn to be Beethoven. I want

703
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.400
to learn to just play a few
Christmas songs from my grandkids. I got

704
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.079
that. I learned piano as well
for that for the same reason. And

705
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:59.400
today these today what I'm into.
I'm taking tangle lessons. I love every

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00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.320
Sunday tango and I'm having more fun
than I'm supposed to have. Don't tell

707
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.480
anybody. I'm like the tin man
on the Wizard of Oz. I need

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00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.480
that all for my dance moves.
It's awesome. So we're we're out of

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00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.920
time, So really quick, what
do you want to leave our listeners work?

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00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.599
Well? I just I just saw
a note where someone says talking about

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it, says you have to help
others without waiting for feedback at thank you.

712
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:22.519
This is Kim, And this is
what I'd say, and this is

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what I would leave with you,
is that use the one hundred zero role,

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00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:31.440
give one hundred percent, expect zero, just give and just give and

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00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:36.639
good things will happen. So that
would be where I would leave. So

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Kim you can we can thank you
for p quing that that served back up

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into the audience. Thank you very
much for that comment. And Bruce,

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thank you for joining us. I'm
working on a purpose. It's been a

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pleasure to have you. Thank you
for having me. It's been a fun

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00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.039
listeners. If you want to learn
more about Bruce Waller, the work he's

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doing with his team at Armstrom Companies, or his books, visit his website.

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It's Bruce Waller dot com. That's
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l L E are Bruce Waller dot
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found of this organization and the incredible
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Next week will be on the air
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See you there. Remember that work
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so let's work on purpose. We
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Be sure to tune in to Working
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