Oct. 7, 2020
Developing an Elite Mindset - Go All In

Living to our fullest potential takes energy and effort, along with a strong and focused mindset. You’ll need to summon passion, perseverance and then, just get TO it. When you “Go All In” you give your very best. When you give everything you’ve got...
Living to our fullest potential takes energy and effort, along with a strong and focused mindset. You’ll need to summon passion, perseverance and then, just get TO it. When you “Go All In” you give your very best. When you give everything you’ve got to make the world a better place, you are living up to your true potential. No matter what you’re working on, get to it and “Go All In.”
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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.
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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately
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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that
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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be
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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,
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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want
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working on purpose. Now Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome
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back to the Working in Purpose for
Olympics for training again this week, I'm
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your host, Doctor Release Cortes.
Join you live from Dallas, Texas,
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which is home base for me.
I've been tuning in for a while.
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You know. This program is a
thought leadership series that enlightens and inspires listeners
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with insights from distinguished business leaders and
subject matter experts. Our conversations are designed
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to elevate your thinking and entice you
to take a conscious and inspirational approach toward
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leadership and business. Before we get
on the program, I have two things
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to share with you, two pieces
of announcements. One September marks the launch
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of gusto Now, which is a
growth and transformation e learning platform dedicated to
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awakening, meeting passion, inspiration and
purpose in people, leadership and organizations.
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It features leadership development and other professional
development courses available to individuals and companies,
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and we do it in English,
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about these courses at gustodashnow dot com. Secondly, I have to share with
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you my book has finally coming out
November seventeenth. It's on Amazon now.
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It's called Purpose Ignited How Inspirational Leaders
Ignite passion and Elevate cause you can pre
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order it there. And I really
wrote it to turn readers on and ignite
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their passion, inspiration, purpose,
to make a contribution worthy of their one
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precious life, and create leaders who
will radically improve the workplace as we know
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it. Okay, now for the
program this week, we have with us
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Robert Bruss, who is the founder
of go all In, the mission of
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which is to create a movement of
people who only know how to go all
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in. He also hosts his own
podcast called go all In, where he's
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conducted hundreds of interviews to learn how
people tell their stories of doing whatever it
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takes to break through and succeed in
every aspect of life. We'll be talking
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about his ten plus years of experience
in the Australian Navy and Army and his
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fifteen years of entrepreneurship and how that
transformed into who he is today, as
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well as learned about some of the
key elements he teaches in his Elite Mastermind
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course. He joins it today from
Australia. By the way, listeners and
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viewers, this is your lucky day. Rob is offering a thirty percent discount
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to his course for Working on Purpose. Listeners use the code WOP for Working
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on Purpose when you sign up.
Thanks for that, Rob, and welcome
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to Working on Purpose, Hilis.
It's great to be he thank you for
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that coined introduction. Absolutely, it's
so fun right we met thanks to good
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old social media. I'm so grateful
for that. Love when I get to
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meet people from around the world and
they share their thoughts and their convictions with
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us, and it's like being part
of one small, little connected planet.
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Yeah. Absolutely, and a fellow
podcasters and radio hosts are all cut from
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the same cloth, so it's really
fun. It makes it really easy to
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communicate as well, doesn't it though? Doesn't it though? Well? So
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for this first segment, Rob,
what I want to do for our listeners
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is I want them to better understand, as I have come to better understand
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a little bit about who you are
and how you built yourself into what you
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become today, because that gives us
a base to understand your offerings. So
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first I got to understand a little
bit about the fact that you spent ten
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years in the Australian military, and
of course we know fifteen years as an
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entrepreneur. So I want to first
understand, because I've never done anything in
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the military, how did your experience
in the military alter you or what did
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it do for you? Oh my
god. Ever since I was a little
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kid, I always wanted to be
in the army. And I grew up
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in just in suburban Sydney in Australia. But at the end of there was
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some good old Aussie bush and my
mates and I would always run around and
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play armies and throw rocks at each
other and do what little boys do at
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the end of the street in the
bush. And I don't think it's really
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any different for any other Western culture
in the world. For kids growing up,
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and even kids today do the same
things, even with all the screens
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and all the differences that they have, it still happens today. So when
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I was old enough, I kind
of I left school and I walked into
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the recruiting office and I asked them. I said, Hey, I want
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to be in the Army, and
the Navy guy behind the desk said,
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na, man, you don't want
to be in the Army, you want
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to be in the Navy. Come
and watch this video. He sat me
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down, watched the video. I
thought that was like pretty cool, And
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six weeks later I was in the
Navy at recruit school, wondering where all
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the guns were. And so in
hindsight, I look back at it,
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and that guy pegged me perfectly because
that's what his job was in recruiting.
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And I think I would have really
struggled in the Army going straight from school
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being a seventeen year old kid.
The Army was very different to the Navy.
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It was a lot harder, it
was physically different, it was mentally
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different. It required a different mindset, and I definitely definitely didn't have the
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maturity to actually handle that because by
the time I left the Navy and actually
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got into the Army. I actually
found it a bit difficult. It was
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like, okay, that was hard, and looking back, you know,
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I was a bit disappointed that I
ended up in the Navy. How that
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happened it sort of you know,
that happened so quickly. My head.
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My head was spinning right end.
But the thing is, I traveled the
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world, had an incredible job which
I absolutely loved doing combat system and I
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went everywhere the Australian Navy goes in
five years. That's actually why I got
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out. And there was nowhere else
to go. And I'd finished my posting
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on board a couple of ships that
I've been on and it was time to
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go ashore, go get promoted.
Then you come back and do it all
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again. And I was like,
well, do what again. I've been
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I've been in operations, I've been
on all the PRIs that I've been to,
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all the places. I think I
went to thirty five different foreign ports
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or forty ports or something like that
and just a short space of time,
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so it's an incredible amount of travel. And had a pocket full of money.
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I was with my mates all the
time and it was just an absolute
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blast. Was it was a party, you know, in direct to answer
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to your question, you know,
how did it change me? Well,
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it taught me how to party when
I was a young man, party to
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go along another party in front and
get good. Yeah, it is absolutely
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true what they say about sailors.
And I worked a lot with the American
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Navy as well, and the American
Navy is exactly the same as the Australian
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Navy. I worked a little bit
harder than we do, I have to
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say. The conditions and the pay
isn't as good as what the Australian Navy
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is, but the traits of sailors
at the same the world over, whether
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it's the British Navy, the Royal
Navy, the US Navy or the Australian
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Navy. Which is kind of fun. But once once I'd left the Navy
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and I was in the Army,
I had an incredible time there because it
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was in some ways and maybe your
listeners probably kind of won't like the idea
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of this, but this is why
I joined, right you join up to
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go to war. I joined the
Army. I went to recruit school,
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I went to the School of Infantry
and the day that I joined my battalion.
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They were packing their bags to go
to East Team Or and each Team
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Or ended up being the biggest combat
operation the Australian military had been involved in
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since the Vietnam War. And I
was like, like being conscripted. That's
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what it was, you know,
because you joined recruit school, school of
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Infantry straight to a battalion, straight
overseas on combat operations. And I got
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to do that. And in some
ways that was a blessing and a curse
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because by the time I'd come back
from that, it was like, well,
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what else is there now to do
in the Australian Army. I've been
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and this was before we were involved
in Iraq or Afghanistan or anything like that,
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and it was pre nine to eleven
as well, so it's a pretty
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interesting time in the Australian Defense Force
to be there. And when we got
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back, they said to me,
right, because we were not really budgeted
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to do anything like that, like
we'd just done. The Australian government said,
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there's no exercises, there's no anything
happening on. You're not going anywhere.
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So what we recommend you do is
either put your hand up for a
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bunch of different courses or go ahead
and try out for special Forces. And
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I was at the point in my
infantry career where I wasn't quite ready to
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do special Forces. I barely could
walk and talk infantry, never mind going
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for more elite type stuff. And
there's plenty of people that did that and
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can certainly do that, but it
just didn't feel right for me. So
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I pulled my hand up and went
to the parachute school and I got all
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my military free fall qualifications. And
that was just an incredible job because there's
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a huge amount of responsibility associated with
that. And you turn up to work
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in the morning, you look at
the boss and say, hey, mate,
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what are we doing today? Well, what do you think we're doing.
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You're at the parachute school. Go
get a parachute and we're going skydive
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it all day. It's job and
it was pretty cool. And I did
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that for a couple of years.
And I at the school there, just
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a member of the staff. And
the great thing about what I did was
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I never really had any responsibility because
I wasn't an instructor there. But what
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I would do is I would support
the instructors, so when they were learning,
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when courses came through and instructors were
learning how to be instructors. You
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would go and be the students for
them. Sometimes there'd be people coming through
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learning how to be tandem instructors,
and you'd be the tandem person. You
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jump out of the plane and put
in mistakes for them, and they'd have
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to fix the mistakes for you.
So I think I've got about forty or
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fifty tandem jumps under my belt something
like that. Sometimes that was a bit
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scary because you're completely out of control
and you're struck to another person, and
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you think of sky diving as going
for a tandem and having fun on the
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weekend with your mates and doing that. But after you do it over and
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over again and you're not in control
that it starts to get a little bit
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scary. But then you get some
great qualifications as well in the process.
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But unfortunately those qualifications don't transfer into
anything in the civilian world. So it
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took me a little while to transition. Like most people leaving the military,
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maybe I left a little bit earlier
than I should have. It took me
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about four or five years to properly
transition and to find myself, and I
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was a young man well, you
know, I was twenty twenty nine,
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twenty eight, twenty nine years old
by the time I got out, and
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I never I didn't really know who
I was as a person, and the
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military had shaped me. I'd grown
up in the military, and I really
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had to find myself and it did. It took a while. It took
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a while to not turn up five
minutes before everything, to be perfectly dressed,
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perfectly shaven, wearing all the right
clothes and doing all the right things.
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And people would look at that and
think, man, it's just like
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lower your intensity levels a little bit, rob low down. But that's what
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it helped me to be successful in
the military, and ultimately that's what helped
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me to be successful as an entrepreneur
as well. You know, what I
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think is what I appreciate about what
you just finished with was there's a notion
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of how hard it was to go
back to in the civilian world. I
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have had a people on my show
who talk about helping that transition because it
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is such a totally different space,
and I think a lot of us who
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have never served have no idea what
you went through. So I all the
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more applied what you have created with
your platform and your podcast and what you're
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doing your course to be able to
summon what you got from those experiences.
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I think it's phenomenal. And I
did hear you say and the introductory piece
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of your course that you've had quite
a few businesses over the years, some
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you said, we're dogs, and
some were incredibly successful. So just really
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quick, high level, a few
things that you learned all these fifteen years
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of being an entrepreneur. The number
one thing that I've taken away from it
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is money is something that you think
is a motivating factor that I discovered,
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and the number one thing that I
took away from it, I discovered that
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I actually feel the same whether I've
got no money in the bank account.
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And there's been more times than I
would care to remember that that's actually been
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the case because you risk everything right
and keep going to your breakthrough. But
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I really do feel the same whether
there's no money in the bank account or
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there's lots of money in the bank
account. And what I mean by that
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is my attitude and my approach to
my business and what it is that I'm
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doing doesn't change. If it's really
super success that I keep going and I
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double down on what it is that
I'm doing, and if it's not working
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for whatever reason, then I double
down and keep going and keep doing what
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I'm doing. So I learned early
on that money was actually something that was
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driving me, but I realized it
wasn't motivating me. It's such a difference
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there, because you have to eat, you've got to pay your rent,
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you've got to feed your children,
and you know you're going to buy clothes
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and just live. So you know
something that's driving you, but I was
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not motivated by it. And over
the years, the biggest thing that I've
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learned from all of the failures that
I've had and all of the things that
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have gone right at the same time, is the thing that I value the
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most is human connection. I love
people. I love seeing people succeed.
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I love delivering products and services in
the way that I say that I'm going
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to deliver, and I love seeing
other people succeed. There's nothing that gives
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me more joy or satisfaction in my
life than seeing somebody breakthrough and get on
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the other side and just win.
That's like Tony Roberts fist pumping moment for
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me. Absolutely. And you know, one of the things I love speaking
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of what you just said about the
meaningful connection. You say in your bio
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that you you are prone to be
found having a four hour, deep enriched
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conversation over a cup of coffee.
I love that. That's totally my jam
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too. So part of why I
wanted to have you on the show is
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you really to me represent I want
to say, bigger than life, but
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literally a walking human billboard for possibility
and going for it. And I'm always
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that's why I talk about this one
precious life. This is all we get.
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Let's go for it. So what
do you think? What are You've
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created something phenomenal in your go all
in platform. How do you think your
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military entrepreneur experiences have contributed to that
offering? Well, it's about potential,
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and when I created the goal in
brand, I was it's really it took
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me probably about thirty or forty podcasts
to really articulate what that actually meant.
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So because it's a bit of an
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I exactly what it was and exactly
what that meant, but the reality is
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it was pretty hard to articulate out
loud what it meant. And the way
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that I kind of arrived there,
and these are all the things that I
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took from being an entrepreneur and being
in the military, and I put it
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together and going all in on something
is part of the human experience. We
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all know what it feels like to
commit to something. We all also know
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what it feels like to over commit
to something, to publicly do that,
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and then to retract and then to
go back into your little over, into
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your little cave a little bit embarrassed. Where I committed to something, it
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didn't work out, I don't want
anyone to know about it. It's part
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of the human experience. And what
I recognized in doing that and understanding all
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of that constantly in my life.
It's about potential. Is if you ask
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yourself, are you really living up
to your potential? Or are you just
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operating at about ten percent of your
max? And when I ask myself that,
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I realized that I only operate at
about fifteen to twenty percent of my
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max on any one day because the
vast majority of what I do on a
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daily basis is automated. I operate
by way GARP, I go to the
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gym, I do exercising, I
eat some breakfast, sit down, I
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answer my email. I don't have
to think very hard about what it is
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that I do and what I ask
myself often, and I ask myself a
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couple of times a day, is
are you working on things that are closing
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the gap from where you are to
where you want to be? And if
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you're not, it means you're not
really living up to your potential. You're
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operating on autopilot, and maybe those
autopilot tasks should be handed off to somebody
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else so then you can find that
potential that you have. And everybody has
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that creative genius inside them, whether
that's in business, in art, in
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music, in acting in some form, everybody has that creative genius. And
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you never really get to discover that
creative genius unless you decide to go all
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in and unless you decide to free
yourself of the minutia and the automated task
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that you should hand off to somebody
else. That's kind of the culmination of
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everything that I've learned. Is in
the military as well. That's beautiful,
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Rob, I love it. I'm
so aligned with you on that. I'm
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so glad you're doing this work in
the world. It needs, we need
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it, So let's grab our first
break. On that note, I'm your
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host, doctor release Cortes. We've
been on the air with Rob Bruss,
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who was the founder of Go all
In, the mission of which is to
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create a movement of people who only
know how to go all in. You
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joined it today from Australia. We've
been talking a bit about his background and
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how to informed what he's created.
After the break, we're going to get
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into some of the key topics that
he teaches in his courses. Stay with
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us, we'll be right back.
Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing
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in meaning and purpose and inspirational speaker
and author. She helps companies visioneer for
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greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose
inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate
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fulfillment, performance, and commitment within
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employees working on purpose. This is
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email to a lease Alise at Elisecortes dot
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com. Now back to working on
Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,
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and welcome back to working on purpose
if you're just joining us. My guest
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is Rob Russ. He's the founder
of go all in If, the mission
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of which is to create a movement
of people who only know how to go
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all in. He also hosts his
own podcast called go all In, where
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he's conducted hundreds of interviews to learn
how people tell their stories of doing whatever
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it takes to break through and succeed
in every aspect of life. I'm your
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host, Alise Cortes. So before
we get into the program piece of this
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rop, I think it would be
great for us to be able to just
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quickly go to your podcast, because
you're doing something in your podcast that I'm
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doing online, and that is I
am harvesting your knowledge and experience to fold
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into my being and make me a
better human being and a better consultant.
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So it seems like you're doing something
similar. So and I love the intensity
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of your show, right, So
you you have stories of I love how
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you say these are stories of unadulterated
failures and you for successes. And so
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that intensity and the vulnerability of your
platform is really compelling to me. Can
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you maybe just share a story or
some snippet of one that you had recently
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that really stuck for you. Yeah, absolutely, and thanks for the opportunity
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to do that. The one,
the one that I've got, I think
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we'll we'll just blow you away.
And it's about potential, it's about the
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topic we were talking about before the
before the break. So, uh,
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this fella, his name is Jason
Dan and he's a fellow infantry guy like
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me is. He's an ex soldier. In fact, he's an ex Special
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Forces soldier here in the Australian Defense
Force. He was a commando and he
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got out of the military a while
ago as well. And one of the
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things that Jace had always been into
was running. And as an infantry guide,
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you were always running. It's part
of what you do and in some
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ways what you do for living.
Vergers on being a professional athlete, because
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everything you do is centered around your
ability to do things physically. It's a
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very physical job. And Jace discovered
that he was really good at running marathons,
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and it turns out he was really
good at running ultra marathons, and
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in fact, he was so good
at running marathons and ultra marathons that he
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won the very first inaugural Red Bull
La Ultra and the Red Bull La Ultra
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Marathon takes place over five days in
the Himalayas up to seventeen thousand feet and
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it's five hundred and fifty five kilometers
of running and Jason won that race and
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it's a feat of human endurance that
you would just it's hard to describe what
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it is that he did because he
can barely describe it himself because he's one
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of those really quiet Australians and it's
like, come on, man, you've
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got to tell us this story.
Tell us, get this experience and share
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this experience with us. And I
really had to build a lot of rapport
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with Jase before I did the podcast
with him, to get to know him
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a little bit, because he's such
a humble guy and he's like, oh,
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yeah, I want it, Yeah, I ran a long way whatever.
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But when you hear the nitty gritty
of what it is that he went
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through, and you know you're not
supposed to run at seventeen thousand feet because
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the partial pressure of oxygen ups up
there is just not the same as what
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it is down here at ground level. When you take a breath up there,
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because the atmosphere is thinner, it's
like taking half a breath down here
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at sea level. And he was
running at altitude. He was falling behind
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the clock. He had to run
down some of these hills down from seventeen
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down to five thousand feet. They
have these crazy hallucinations in the middle of
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the night because they've been running for
days at a time. And he said,
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the white lines on the road,
the central dividers, look like cobra's
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coming up to try and attack him
at nighttime. And he's running and dodging
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these cobras, and the support crew
behind him are like, what are you
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doing? And he's like the stakes
all over the road, but now and
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as he's coming up to the end
of it, the really cool part of
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the story is what he did to
win and how he actually won. And
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they came to the last checkpoint and
he was in second place, and the
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guy in front of him was quite
quite a way in front of him,
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and they stop and they sleep and
they eat along the way, of course,
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and as he came in there,
one of his support crew said,
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Hey, the fella that's in front
of you he's eaten, and he's now
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asleep. And Jason kind of went, well, I'm not eating, I'm
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not stopping, and I'm not sleeping, and he kept running and he ran,
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he ran past, and he ended
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the other guy. By the time
the other guy I realized what was going
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on, he was twenty kilometers ahead. And then Jace felt like that he
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was being chased down for the last
day of the race, the last I
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think it was last seventy or eighty
kilometers or something like that. I can't
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remember exactly, but he felt like
he was being chased. So he kind
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of had that second win if youel
like if you could have a second win
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after all those kilometers, and he
made it to the end and he won
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the race. And it's that story
is a reminder of what you can do
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when you put your mind to something. Because it wasn't the physical thing that
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got him across the line shore that
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That's eighty five to ninety percent of
it. But the other part of it,
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the one hundred percent of it,
is your mind. You can't you
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can't do something like that unless you're
in the right headspace. And I remember
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asking him, you know, did
you think that you would ever be able
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to do something like that? And
he said no, I was at the
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two hundred and twenty two kilometer mark
and that's the furthest that I'd ever run.
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you have to do that again.
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How did you do that? And
he was like, well, I just
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kept on. I just I just
pressed on. And it's a great story
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because it's a story about the potential
of a human being and someone never really
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thought that they could do something like
that, and he never really went out
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there to win it. He just
went out there to do it, and
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he'd won it, and it was
like, oh my gosh, incredible story.
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Incredible story. I love that Rob
on a number of levels, but
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first and foremost, because I do
traffic and energy and inspiration, I know
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how important it is for us to
be inspired, for us to keep our
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hearts and minds healthy and fed with
stories of inspiration that show us what we
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can do and what we can be. So I love the idea that you're
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really I guess your trafficking and potential, that's what you're really doing. And
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the first module of your course is
about mindset, and I wanted you to
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distinguish that if you would, because
you see something pretty compelling on your website
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about that and when you just see
between average and an elite mindset, Will
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you do that for our listeners and
viewers today? Yeah? Absolutely. People
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ask me all the time. This
is kind of where it came from,
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is how do you do what it
is that you do? How do you
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how do you make all of this
happen? The reality is you just need
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a plan. But everyone's got a
plan. Plenty of people got a plan.
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They execute on their plan, it
still fails, and they don't get
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to where it is that they need
to be. They don't hit up against
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their targets. And if you're not
hitting up against your target, even if
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you've got a plan and you've got
goals and you've got all of those things,
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the chances are is that you haven't
got your mindset right. You just
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haven't got your head right. You
need to work on your headspace. And
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so I came up with a kind
of a list of things, and it
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puts down one side of the page. On the left side of the page
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is the way average people think about
things. And if you're missing your goals.
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It's maybe because you're thinking some of
these ways. And the people that
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hit their targets and meet the goals
and meet the expectations and move up to
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the potential and have an elite mindset. So an example is someone with an
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average mindset typically feel sorry for themselves
when things are going against them. They're
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like, oh, what is me? Poor me? Why can't everything work?
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WHI I'm trying so hard, it's
not happening. People with an elite
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mindset, on the other side of
that coin, are so focused on others
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that they don't have time to feel
sorry for themselves. So that's one example.
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Another example is someone with an average
mindset makes an excuse when things are
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not going their way, but someone
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They go over, under, around, breakthrough whatever obstacles are placed in
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front of them, and they keep
forging forward. People with an average mindset,
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they typically wear their emotions on their
sleeves. But people with an elite
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mindset, what they do is they
never show weakness outwardly. And there's nothing
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wrong with being weak and being a
little bit vulnerable, but they don't show
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it. Outwardly. And what they
do is they have big, strong body
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language. You never see a footballer
go out onto the pitch first on the
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on game day and be like,
Oh, I'm scared, I'm going to
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get They're going out there, They've
got their pads on, they've got their
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helmets on. They got that.
They're ready to go. They've got big,
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strong body language, and they're ready
to get after it. They're ready
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to go for it. They're ready
to make it happen. They're not wearing
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their emotions on this sleep. So
I think it's just really important. I'll
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give that some context there for it
as well. So when it comes time
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to play the game on game day, you need to bring your a game
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and leave your emotions aside and concentrate
on your training and move forward. So
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there's a bunch of things in and
around average versus a leade mindset. And
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I know that people that are listening
to this and watching this, they would
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have some things where they go,
Okay, if I'm not feeling so good
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about something, am I feeling sorry
for myself? Or should I just pick
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myself up, dust it off,
pick it up, and just keep moving
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forward and going forward. And I
think intuitively, we know the difference between
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average and aly. I think so
too, but it's good to have it
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distinguished. Now, another thing that
you do that I think is really compelling
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because, as I say, I
traffic an energy and a lot of energy
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for me is motivation. And you
talk about you distinguish the truth about motivation
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in your program. So give us
a snippet of that. Yeah, that's
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a great question, and that's a
really important topic. And I want to
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clear something up for the people that
are listening, because they might be going,
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well, it's easy for you rob
you're in the military for ten years,
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you are just one of those motivated
military guys. But the reality is,
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if you talk to anybody that's been
in the military, some of the
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people are in the military are the
most unmotivated, undisciplined people that you've ever
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encountered in your entire life. And
there's far more motivated and disciplined people in
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business and the corporate world than there
is a military. Because the fact the
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military rules with a carrot and a
stick. They're like, you need to
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be here at this time, in
this uniform, in that heart, or
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else. So you can't live your
life in a place of or else.
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What you need to do is you
need to find the motivation and the discipline
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within yourself. And it's motivation that
gets you started, and it's discipline that
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will keep going. But if you're
not focused on your goals and you don't
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have a plan, all the discipline
in the world is not going to help
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help you to achieve what it is
that you need, because as soon as
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the going gets a little bit tough, you'll let yourself off the hook.
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When you make a declaration to the
world that you've got to go all in,
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that feels really good. Then you
start and the minute it gets a
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little bit hard, you're like,
all right, I've just got to push
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through this bit. I knew it
was going to be hard. You're pushing
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and pushing, and then tomorrow it
gets harder and it gets harder again.
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Discipline is not going to keep going
there. What you need is you need
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a dedicated plan. You need the
right time management, you need to know
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what to focus on. You need
routines and habits of success. If you
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don't have the combination of those things, all the discipline in the world is
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not going to keep you moving forward. But in times of in times of
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short, intense periods and we all
have those throughout our day where distraction might
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creep in. You need to know
that I've got the discipline to not allow
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that distraction to creep into my day, and I can use my discipline right
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now to keep moving forward and keep
me closing your gap from where I am
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to where I want to be.
If you don't use your discipline at the
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right times, then you'll let yourself
off the hook. And it's like arts,
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right Obviously, that chocolate biscuit,
it's not such a big idea,
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a big deal, you know's what's
the big idea of, you know,
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stopping myself having something pleasurable in the
day anyway, But it's the discipline that
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will stop you from eating that chocolate
biscuit and stop you from being naughty.
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And we're all naughty throughout the day, and that's where discipline really comes in.
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But discipline is not going to help
you hit your targets or achieve your
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goals. You need a plan to
do that. I wonder if that's what
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you mean then, right, because
you say I was very fascinated by your
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stance that a focus on our goals
can actually be a form of self sabotage.
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Oh yeah, absolutely, that's fascinating. Yeah. I've worked with with
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lots and lots of clients over the
years in and around this particular topic,
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and part of it is what I'm
not a really big fan of the word
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goal. I prefer high definition destination. And I borrow that. We say
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it again, that's so much better
high definition destination. And I'm borrowing that
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from an American company called after Burner. So these guys are a bunch of
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ex fighter pilots and they use a
methodology called flawless execution. And flawless execution
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is the way fighter pilots actually go
out and fly their jets right and get
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things done, and they have a
ninety eight percent mission success rate when they
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use this model. So fighter pilots
just imagine they don't rock up to work
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and we say, hey, heyles, where are we going in our one
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hundred million dollar jet today? And
you go, I don't know, Let's
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just go over there and drop a
bomb over there. No, there's a
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detailed planning, briefing, and executing
in a debriefing process that they go through,
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and that's the methodology that they use, which is called flawless execution.
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And what they do is they set
the high definition destination. That's the goal,
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that's the target. And you can
use this same methodology in your life.
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What is your high definition destination?
All right? I don't know exactly
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what it is. Now. I
need to create a plan, need to
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brief the plan, need to go
and execute it. Between the execution and
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completion, I need to X gap
to understand where I am in relation to
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where I said I was going to
be. And then on completion, I
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need to debrief myself to make sure
I've got the lessons learned. I know
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exactly how I achieve that. What
did I do right? What did I
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do wrong? What can I change? What do I need to do?
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So if you spend too much time
looking at your goals and looking at that
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high definition destination, then what you'll
do is forget about how it is that
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you're going to get there. That's
why using a methodology like flawss execution is
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a great way to stop you focusing
on the goal. You set the goal,
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you set the target, and then
you spend ninety five percent of your
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time working towards that target, and
every now and then you look up and
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out at what it is that you're
doing and where you're going. But the
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vast majority of the time when you're
trying to achieve the goal, you're looking
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down and in. And I love
the idea of that because what that does
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is it allows you to eat that
elephant one byte at a time. Because
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usually the goals that we set for
ourselves are quite big. So if you
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can just focus on the day to
day activities and don't look up at that
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giant goal that you've gotten, too
often you want to be distracted by,
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oh my god, that's such a
big goal, how am I going to
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get there? How is that going
to happen for me? What you're doing
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is you're focusing on one foot in
front of the other and moving yourself closer
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to that target at every moment of
every day. I like it and I'm
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totally I wrote that down high definition
destination. I love it. That's I'm
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totally changing my language. Thanks for
that. Rob. Let's grab our last
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break. EMILYE. Cortez, your
host. We're on the air with Rob
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Russ. He's the founder of Go
all In, the mission of which is
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to create a movement of people who
only know how to go all In.
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You joined it today from Australia.
After the greak, we're going to hear
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a bit more about his program.
Stay with us, we'll be right back.
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Doctor release Cortes is a management consultant
specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational
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speaker and author. She helps companies
visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
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purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures
that elevate fulfillment, performance and commitment within
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the workforce. To learn more or
to invite Elise to speak to your organization,
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please visit her at elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about how to get
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your employees working on purpose. This
is working on Purpose with doctor Elise Cortes.
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To reach our program today or open
a conversation with Alise, send an
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email to Alise Alise at elisecortes dot
com. Now back to working on purpose.
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Thanks for stating with us, and
welcome back to working on purpose.
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If you're just tuning in, my
guest is Rob Russ. He's the founder
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of Go In, the mission of
which is to create a movement of people
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who only know how to go all
in. He also hosts his own podcast
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called go all In and He's conducted
hundreds of reviews to learn how people tell
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their stories doing whatever it takes to
break through and succeed in every aspect of
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life. I'm your host, doctor
release has so a few more questions about
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the program that I have some other
questions about what you're up to in all
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this work. Here. I want
to talk about time management and accountability because
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I'm always amazed at the difference in
what really extraordinary people get done in twenty
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four hours and what I get done. So what can you tell us about
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that? First of all, you
need to know what you're spending your time
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on. And I think it's a
little bit of a It's a bit of
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an abstract concept, to be honest. It's like, I don't know what
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I spend my time on. I
wake up in the morning and I do
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my thing. But how much time
are you actually spending on the activities that
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are going to move you closer to
your actual goals? And I really believe
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that when somebody says to me,
I'll rob, well, I need a
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hand with my goals, I need
a hand with my targets. Can you
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help me to do this? The
very first thing that comes out of my
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mouth used to be. Yeah,
sure, I can help you. But
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now what i'd say is, what
is it that you're doing today that's moving
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you closer to those targets? Oh
well, you know, I kind of
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haven't got there because of a B
or C. And all the excuses will
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come out, and it's funny how
quickly the excuses come out. The next
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thing that I ask somebody is to
show me their calendar. Give us a
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look at your calendar, show me
your phone, show me whatever calendar app
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that you use, and let's have
a look. If you've got half hour
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or fifteen minute blocks blocked out on
your calendar, and is it blocked out
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from the time you wake up to
the time you go to bed, including
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your downtime, you're eating time,
your family time, All of those things
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need to be blocked out in your
calendar. If you're not in control of
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your time, time is in control
of you, and there is no hack.
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The hack is get your calendar out
and allocate the time that you think
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you need to the activities that you
know that you should be doing. If
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social media is a problem from you, take Facebook and Instagram off your phone,
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just let them on your computer.
And if you need a little breakthrough
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the day, Go and just look
at your computer for five minutes. Use
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that as your break. But don't
be distracted by your phone. You know,
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statistically, and you would know this
at least from working with clients,
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Statistically, we touch our phones one
hundred and sixty eight times an hour.
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It's a massive massiveness. Yeah,
And so think about it. If somebody
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sends you a text message and you
peck out a response to that, you
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know you're typing. That's you touching
your phone one hundred times with those characters,
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right. But then you open Facebook
or Instagram, or you're looking at
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something on YouTube or TikTok or something
like that, and you're scrolling like a
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just like a mindless zombie. That's
a massive distraction to you, and it
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takes you Scientifically, Science says that
it takes you about twenty minutes to get
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into the groove of something. So
once you're starting to focus your attention on
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things, but then the alerts on
your phone go off, where your email
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goes off, or the phone rings, or somebody comes over and invades your
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cubicle. There's a bunch of things
that happen that stop you from moving forward.
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And all of these things go to
the very heart of time management,
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and if you get control of all
of these things, then you'll be in
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control of time and that's how you're
able to achieve more. And I always
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ask myself the question when I'm about
to start an activity, is this activity
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related to making money? Is this
activity related to moving closer to the goal
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that I've set for myself? And
if it is, I do it.
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If it's not, I sit back
for a second and say, well,
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should I be handing this off to
a member of my team, or should
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I be giving this to somebody else, or should I be finding somebody that
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can do this task for me?
And I work really methodically like that,
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and I block out my calendar in
half hour blocks. I find that that
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works for me. But I do
that on a Sunday evening. My week
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starts at Sunday evening at eight o'clock. I'm really I'm ultra ultra militant about
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doing that because I want the first
half of my week. And sometimes it's
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impossible to do right because I don't
know what's going to happen on Thursday or
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Friday. On Sunday nine at eight
o'clock, So what I do is I
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just do Monday, Tuesday and half
of Wednesday, and I'll leave myself the
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flexibility to go, Okay, the
back half of the week is going to
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look like this, and I give
myself that opportunity. What you've got to
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do is you've got to find what
works for you. But once you get
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control of time, and once you
get control of your calendar, and it's
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such an unbelievably simple thing to do, you'll find that things start to fall
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in the place for you pretty quickly. I really appreciate that I have fallen
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off so of calendaring my time,
and I do do it a little bit
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more haphazardly on my paper calendar,
but there was a time when I did
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exactly what you're saying and I did
get better results. So already I'm learning
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from you and being contributed to layers
with thank you, Rob. And speaking
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of that, there's two other things
they definitely want to make sure and ask
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you before we run out of time
and it goes so fast. You talk
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about habits and routines, and that's
part of what you were just talking about
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there, But can you say a
little bit more about why they're important and
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how we can steward them. Yeah. Absolutely, and it's a really great
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point because it ties into time management. Yeah. You know, there's a
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lot of people out there in the
NLP and they look at the patterns of
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behavior and how do I speak?
And what's his body language? Is it?
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You know, is he somebody who
learns orally or is he a visual
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person? All of those things there
go to the very heart of habits and
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the way that you actually behave and
you need to develop habits and routines of
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success. There's a really famous American
ex Navy seal. His name's Jocko Willing.
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You might have heard of Jocko and
so Jocko's an ex seal commander from
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the Battle of Ramadi in two thousand
and six, two thousand and seven,
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and he's really popular as this great
podcast about war stories and all sorts of
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great interviews and things like that.
And he takes a photo of his watch
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at four o'clock in the morning and
anywhere between four and no really no later
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than about four point thirty in the
morning. And every morning he takes a
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photo of his watch. Is like
time to get up, time to get
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after it. And that's his routine. And people ask him all the time,
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dude, you've got to stay in
bed longer, aren't you tired?
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And he's like, well, I
go to bed a bit earlier, So
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I get up earlier. It's all
right, And I do my workout on
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the front half of my day because
my day gets so busy that I have
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these intentions to go and do some
exercise in the middle or the end of
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the day, but it just never
get there. And by the time I
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get there, I'm too tired to
do it. So the first thing that
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I do in the morning is I
get out of bed, I have a
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drink of water, and I get
started and I do my workout, and
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I make that happen, that that
I arrived there and happens for me.
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Routines and habits of success like that
are the very foundational pieces of you moving
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forward and closing the gap from where
you are to where you want to be.
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And I think it's really hard to
articulate why we don't do it and
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why people don't have these routines,
and they're kind of all over the place.
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Why don't you do that thing?
Why don't you get up and exercise,
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Why don't you do that? I
don't know. I just couldn't be
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bothered with it. But actually,
every single person on the planet has a
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routine. Every single person on the
planet has different habits. Whether those habits
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are serving you or not is really
up to you. I think we can
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all work better to develop better habits
and to develop better routines that are more
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serving of us rather than something that's
actually holding us back and distracting us from
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what it is that we set for
ourselves. And it's difficult to do.
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And the reason it's difficult to do
is because as human beings, we want
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to move towards things that are more
pleasurable in a way from it that are
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not so fun. And pulling on
a kettle bell at four point thirty in
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the morning doesn't sound like much fun
to me. Being wrapped up under the
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doom and snuggling up to my missus
sounds like way more fun than in a
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kettle bell in the garage at four
thirty in the morning, like JOCKO.
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And it takes all the effort and
discipline in the world to develop a routine
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like that, and you just need
to be deliberate about it. But once
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you delivered about it, and it
comes back to the very heart of your
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time management. If you allocate the
time to do those things for yourself,
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you start to achieve more in a
much shorter timeframe. Stuff, really good
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stuff. Well, I'm also very
intrigued you talk about this little known rule
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of subtension. What the heck is
that? So the rule of subtension is,
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as I guess, it's an infantry
thing, but it's also an aviator
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thing as well. So the rule
of subtension that I learned when I was
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an infantry soldier is that one millimeter
at one thousand meters equals one meter.
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So what it means is you need
to aim straight, don't even be one
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millimeter off what you're aiming at.
And whether you're firing an assault rifle,
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a machine gun, a sniper rifle, or you're setting a goal for yourself
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in your life, don't be one
millimeter off. The effective range of the
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assault rifles that I used in my
time back in the day was three hundred
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meters, So these the bad guys
are pretty close to you at three hundred
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meters. If you're engaging a target, there's you can see these people.
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They're close, you can see them, and you're you rifle stops being effective
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at around four hundred meters. You
star have to start to aim up and
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you're kind of loft and around at
somebody and just doesn't work the same way.
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But if you're one millimeter off where
you're aiming at three hundred meters,
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which is the effective range of the
assault rifle, you will miss the target
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by thirty centimeters and get taught as
an infutry soldier to aim at the center
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of the scene mass. So if
you're aiming at the center of the target
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or the center of a human being, if that's what you're aiming at,
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because that's what the target is,
and you're thirty centimeters off, it means
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you will miss, because thirty centimeters
is about a foot in Imperial terms in
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American terms, if you like,
And if you're a foot off the target,
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that round will go down the left
or the right side of what it
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is that you're aiming at. So
the rule of subtension is one millimeter at
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one thousand meters, one thousand meters
equals one meter. That subtends to that
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as well. And the analogy that
I use is that if you're not aiming
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straight at your target, you will
miss. So before you get started,
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before you do anything, get down, lie down on your guts, get
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into the right firing position, get
ready to go, and aim at exactly
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what it is that you want to
hit. Whether that's a target on the
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range, a bad guy in the
battlefield, or a goal that you've got
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for yourself in your personal life or
your business life. You've got to aim
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straight and aim true at all times
under and don't deviate from that under any
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circumstances. Don't give yourself a break. These discipline as you can. That's
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the target I want. Never ever
change your target, never ever lower your
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expectations because things get too hard.
Just aim straight and keep pushing forward.
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So what I hear from that,
I'm going to just say it for our
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listeners and reviewers is we're going to
channel our inter rub whenever we're up to
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something right, So what's going to
happen. You're going to hear a voice
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in your head that's going to be
this is my inter rub. I'm going
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for it, Okay, And again
I want to remind remind you and thank
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you again Rob listeners and viewers that
Rob is giving you a thirty percent discount
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if you decide to take his course. And the way you get that is
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when you go to check out,
you put you put in WOP for the
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discount code. We're working on purpose. So again for that Rob, but
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getting a taste of what it is
that he does for people. Okay,
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so we're almost out of time already, and now I want to get to
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the big why here. So you've
created a go all in movement. This
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is important to you. This is
your this is your life's work. It
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is why this is so important to
you? Why? Why is it so
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important? And how do you why
do you think it's so important to be
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doing this work in the world today. Yeah, it's a it's a really
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good question that's not asked by enough
podcasters already. And I'm so glad that
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you asked that question because it gives
me the opportunity and it reminds me as
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well why I do it. And
for me, it's pretty simple. It's
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just about human connection. And I
love to celebrate other people's success because I
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know personally what it feels like to
win. It's successful always mean money.
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I'm not talking about money. I'm
not talking about a financial win. I'm
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talking about setting a target for yourself. And seeing that in high definition and
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understanding what you need to do to
get there, because nobody can do anything
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by themselves in this world. And
the analogy that I use all the time
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is life and business, especially business
is a lot like being a paratrooper that
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how could that be true? Well, as a paratrooper, no paratrooper has
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ever jumped out of an aeroplane by
themselves. And you don't jump out of
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a plane by yourself either. When
you do something in the military, you're
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always with other people. It takes
a team of people, a team of
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dedicated professionals and highly trained and highly
skilled people to get you to the door
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of that plane, so you can
jump out at twelve or fifteen thousand feet
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or at a thousand feet And life
is the same way. And I do
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what I do because I understand intuitively, and being brought up in the military
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and being raised in the military and
becoming a man in the military, I
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know that you just can't do things
by yourself. And if I can help
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people achieve the goals that they set
for themselves, then I'm living my life
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to its full potential, and I'm
living my purpose every day. That's so
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beautiful Robin love that and the world
desperately needs that. We need that leg
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up, we need that encouragement,
We need to be shown the way as
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well. So thank you for the
work that you're doing. Last, here
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we are for the end. You
know, on this show is listen to
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by people all over the world,
and it's really meant to be able to
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help them discover and access more meaning, purpose and inspiration and their laves in
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their work. And we're trying to
create a workplace where people actually want to
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come to. So at about I
think thirty seconds or last, what would
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you like to leave our listeners with? Well, I would ask you what
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is it that you're working on that's
closing the gap from where you are to
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where you want to be? And
what is it that you can do to
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commit and go a little bit harder, a little bit faster, and how
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can you expedite what it is that
you're doing. Usually the answer to that
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question is turn off all of the
distractions, turn off the news, turn
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off your social media, and concentrate
on you and concentrate on yourself. And
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when you do that, you'll find
things start to accelerate and you'll start to
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achieve the things that you're looking for, just by focusing inwood on yourself just
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a little bit more. Oh,
it's a great finish, Rob, thank
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you so much for that, and
thank you for being on the show with
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us and sharing us your heart,
your soul, your wisdom, your experience
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is beautiful. Thank you. It's
an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much
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for having me absolutely. Listeners and
viewers. If you want to learn more
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about Rob or his go all In
course, go to his website which is
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go all in dot com dot au. Remember you can use the WOP code
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to get thirty percent off the Elite
Mastermind course if you want to take that.
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It's a gift for listening in today. Last week you give us the
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live show you always catch it.
We recorded podcasts. We were on there
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with Elizabeth lil Tardo talking about her
book Selling with Noble Purpose, how to
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drive revenue and do work that makes
you proud. Next week will be on
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the air with Norman Wolf talking his
book The Living Organization, Transforming business to
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create extraordinary results. See you there. That work is at least a bit
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of our life, so let's work
on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this
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week's program. Be sure to tune
in too. Working on Purpose featuring your
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host, doctor Elise Cortes, each
week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.
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Together, we'll create a world where
business operates conscientiously, leadership inspires impassioned performance,
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and employees are fulfilled in work that
provides the meaning and purpose they crave.
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See you there, Let's work on
Purpose.
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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.
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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately
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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that
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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be
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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,
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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want
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working on purpose. Now Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome
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back to the Working in Purpose for
Olympics for training again this week, I'm
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your host, Doctor Release Cortes.
Join you live from Dallas, Texas,
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which is home base for me.
I've been tuning in for a while.
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You know. This program is a
thought leadership series that enlightens and inspires listeners
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with insights from distinguished business leaders and
subject matter experts. Our conversations are designed
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to elevate your thinking and entice you
to take a conscious and inspirational approach toward
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leadership and business. Before we get
on the program, I have two things
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to share with you, two pieces
of announcements. One September marks the launch
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of gusto Now, which is a
growth and transformation e learning platform dedicated to
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awakening, meeting passion, inspiration and
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It features leadership development and other professional
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and we do it in English,
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about these courses at gustodashnow dot com. Secondly, I have to share with
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you my book has finally coming out
November seventeenth. It's on Amazon now.
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It's called Purpose Ignited How Inspirational Leaders
Ignite passion and Elevate cause you can pre
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order it there. And I really
wrote it to turn readers on and ignite
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their passion, inspiration, purpose,
to make a contribution worthy of their one
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precious life, and create leaders who
will radically improve the workplace as we know
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it. Okay, now for the
program this week, we have with us
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Robert Bruss, who is the founder
of go all In, the mission of
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which is to create a movement of
people who only know how to go all
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in. He also hosts his own
podcast called go all In, where he's
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conducted hundreds of interviews to learn how
people tell their stories of doing whatever it
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takes to break through and succeed in
every aspect of life. We'll be talking
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about his ten plus years of experience
in the Australian Navy and Army and his
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fifteen years of entrepreneurship and how that
transformed into who he is today, as
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well as learned about some of the
key elements he teaches in his Elite Mastermind
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course. He joins it today from
Australia. By the way, listeners and
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viewers, this is your lucky day. Rob is offering a thirty percent discount
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to his course for Working on Purpose. Listeners use the code WOP for Working
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on Purpose when you sign up.
Thanks for that, Rob, and welcome
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to Working on Purpose, Hilis.
It's great to be he thank you for
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that coined introduction. Absolutely, it's
so fun right we met thanks to good
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old social media. I'm so grateful
for that. Love when I get to
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meet people from around the world and
they share their thoughts and their convictions with
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us, and it's like being part
of one small, little connected planet.
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Yeah. Absolutely, and a fellow
podcasters and radio hosts are all cut from
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the same cloth, so it's really
fun. It makes it really easy to
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communicate as well, doesn't it though? Doesn't it though? Well? So
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for this first segment, Rob,
what I want to do for our listeners
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is I want them to better understand, as I have come to better understand
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a little bit about who you are
and how you built yourself into what you
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become today, because that gives us
a base to understand your offerings. So
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first I got to understand a little
bit about the fact that you spent ten
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years in the Australian military, and
of course we know fifteen years as an
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entrepreneur. So I want to first
understand, because I've never done anything in
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the military, how did your experience
in the military alter you or what did
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it do for you? Oh my
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kid, I always wanted to be
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some good old Aussie bush and my
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play armies and throw rocks at each
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and even kids today do the same
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the recruiting office and I asked them. I said, Hey, I want
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to be in the Army, and
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na, man, you don't want
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to be in the Navy. Come
and watch this video. He sat me
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down, watched the video. I
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six weeks later I was in the
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the guns were. And so in
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and that guy pegged me perfectly because
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being a seventeen year old kid.
The Army was very different to the Navy.
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world, had an incredible job which
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went everywhere the Australian Navy goes in
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out. And there was nowhere else
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on board a couple of ships that
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go ashore, go get promoted.
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again. And I was like,
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I've been in operations, I've been
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all the places. I think I
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or forty ports or something like that
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so it's an incredible amount of travel. And had a pocket full of money.
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to your question, you know,
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it taught me how to party when
I was a young man, party to
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go along another party in front and
get good. Yeah, it is absolutely
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true what they say about sailors.
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Navy as well, and the American
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Navy. I worked a little bit
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say. The conditions and the pay
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is, but the traits of sailors
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it's the British Navy, the Royal
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Navy. Which is kind of fun. But once once I'd left the Navy
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and I was in the Army,
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was in some ways and maybe your
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of this, but this is why
I joined, right you join up to
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go to war. I joined the
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since the Vietnam War. And I
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what it was, you know,
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to do that. And in some
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because by the time I'd come back
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what else is there now to do
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interesting time in the Australian Defense Force
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back, they said to me,
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to do anything like that, like
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there's no exercises, there's no anything
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bunch of different courses or go ahead
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I was at the point in my
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do special Forces. I barely could
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for more elite type stuff. And
there's plenty of people that did that and
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can certainly do that, but it
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I pulled my hand up and went
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my military free fall qualifications. And
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a huge amount of responsibility associated with
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in the morning, you look at
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what are we doing today? Well, what do you think we're doing.
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You're at the parachute school. Go
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it all day. It's job and
it was pretty cool. And I did
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a member of the staff. And
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when courses came through and instructors were
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would go and be the students for
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learning how to be tandem instructors,
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jump out of the plane and put
in mistakes for them, and they'd have
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to fix the mistakes for you.
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fifty tandem jumps under my belt something
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scary because you're completely out of control
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you think of sky diving as going
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weekend with your mates and doing that. But after you do it over and
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took me a little while to transition. Like most people leaving the military,
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maybe I left a little bit earlier
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about four or five years to properly
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twenty eight, twenty nine years old
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military had shaped me. I'd grown
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had to find myself and it did. It took a while. It took
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a while to not turn up five
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perfectly shaven, wearing all the right
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lower your intensity levels a little bit, rob low down. But that's what
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it helped me to be successful in
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me to be successful as an entrepreneur
as well. You know, what I
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think is what I appreciate about what
you just finished with was there's a notion
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of how hard it was to go
back to in the civilian world. I
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have had a people on my show
who talk about helping that transition because it
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is such a totally different space,
and I think a lot of us who
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have never served have no idea what
you went through. So I all the
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more applied what you have created with
your platform and your podcast and what you're
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doing your course to be able to
summon what you got from those experiences.
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I think it's phenomenal. And I
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of your course that you've had quite
a few businesses over the years, some
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you said, we're dogs, and
some were incredibly successful. So just really
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quick, high level, a few
things that you learned all these fifteen years
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of being an entrepreneur. The number
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is money is something that you think
is a motivating factor that I discovered,
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and the number one thing that I
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I actually feel the same whether I've
got no money in the bank account.
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the case because you risk everything right
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I really do feel the same whether
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there's lots of money in the bank
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is my attitude and my approach to
my business and what it is that I'm
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doing doesn't change. If it's really
super success that I keep going and I
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double down on what it is that
I'm doing, and if it's not working
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for whatever reason, then I double
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I'm doing. So I learned early
on that money was actually something that was
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driving me, but I realized it
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there, because you have to eat, you've got to pay your rent,
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you've got to feed your children,
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and just live. So you know
something that's driving you, but I was
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not motivated by it. And over
the years, the biggest thing that I've
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learned from all of the failures that
I've had and all of the things that
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have gone right at the same time, is the thing that I value the
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most is human connection. I love
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I love delivering products and services in
the way that I say that I'm going
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to deliver, and I love seeing
other people succeed. There's nothing that gives
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me more joy or satisfaction in my
life than seeing somebody breakthrough and get on
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the other side and just win.
That's like Tony Roberts fist pumping moment for
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me. Absolutely. And you know, one of the things I love speaking
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of what you just said about the
meaningful connection. You say in your bio
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that you you are prone to be
found having a four hour, deep enriched
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conversation over a cup of coffee.
I love that. That's totally my jam
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too. So part of why I
wanted to have you on the show is
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you really to me represent I want
to say, bigger than life, but
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literally a walking human billboard for possibility
and going for it. And I'm always
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that's why I talk about this one
precious life. This is all we get.
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Let's go for it. So what
do you think? What are You've
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created something phenomenal in your go all
in platform. How do you think your
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military entrepreneur experiences have contributed to that
offering? Well, it's about potential,
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and when I created the goal in
brand, I was it's really it took
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me probably about thirty or forty podcasts
to really articulate what that actually meant.
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I exactly what it was and exactly
what that meant, but the reality is
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it was pretty hard to articulate out
loud what it meant. And the way
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that I kind of arrived there,
and these are all the things that I
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took from being an entrepreneur and being
in the military, and I put it
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together and going all in on something
is part of the human experience. We
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all know what it feels like to
commit to something. We all also know
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what it feels like to over commit
to something, to publicly do that,
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and then to retract and then to
go back into your little over, into
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your little cave a little bit embarrassed. Where I committed to something, it
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didn't work out, I don't want
anyone to know about it. It's part
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of the human experience. And what
I recognized in doing that and understanding all
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of that constantly in my life.
It's about potential. Is if you ask
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yourself, are you really living up
to your potential? Or are you just
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operating at about ten percent of your
max? And when I ask myself that,
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I realized that I only operate at
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max on any one day because the
vast majority of what I do on a
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daily basis is automated. I operate
by way GARP, I go to the
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gym, I do exercising, I
eat some breakfast, sit down, I
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answer my email. I don't have
to think very hard about what it is
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that I do and what I ask
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couple of times a day, is
are you working on things that are closing
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the gap from where you are to
where you want to be? And if
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you're not, it means you're not
really living up to your potential. You're
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operating on autopilot, and maybe those
autopilot tasks should be handed off to somebody
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else so then you can find that
potential that you have. And everybody has
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that creative genius inside them, whether
that's in business, in art, in
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music, in acting in some form, everybody has that creative genius. And
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you never really get to discover that
creative genius unless you decide to go all
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in and unless you decide to free
yourself of the minutia and the automated task
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that you should hand off to somebody
else. That's kind of the culmination of
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everything that I've learned. Is in
the military as well. That's beautiful,
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Rob, I love it. I'm
so aligned with you on that. I'm
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so glad you're doing this work in
the world. It needs, we need
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it, So let's grab our first
break. On that note, I'm your
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host, doctor release Cortes. We've
been on the air with Rob Bruss,
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who was the founder of Go all
In, the mission of which is to
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create a movement of people who only
know how to go all in. You
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joined it today from Australia. We've
been talking a bit about his background and
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how to informed what he's created.
After the break, we're going to get
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into some of the key topics that
he teaches in his courses. Stay with
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us, we'll be right back.
Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing
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in meaning and purpose and inspirational speaker
and author. She helps companies visioneer for
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greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose
inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate
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Let's talk about how to get your
employees working on purpose. This is
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working on purpose with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our program today or open
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a conversation with Alise, send an
email to a lease Alise at Elisecortes dot
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com. Now back to working on
Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,
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and welcome back to working on purpose
if you're just joining us. My guest
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is Rob Russ. He's the founder
of go all in If, the mission
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of which is to create a movement
of people who only know how to go
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all in. He also hosts his
own podcast called go all In, where
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he's conducted hundreds of interviews to learn
how people tell their stories of doing whatever
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it takes to break through and succeed
in every aspect of life. I'm your
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host, Alise Cortes. So before
we get into the program piece of this
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rop, I think it would be
great for us to be able to just
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quickly go to your podcast, because
you're doing something in your podcast that I'm
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doing online, and that is I
am harvesting your knowledge and experience to fold
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into my being and make me a
better human being and a better consultant.
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So it seems like you're doing something
similar. So and I love the intensity
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of your show, right, So
you you have stories of I love how
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you say these are stories of unadulterated
failures and you for successes. And so
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that intensity and the vulnerability of your
platform is really compelling to me. Can
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you maybe just share a story or
some snippet of one that you had recently
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that really stuck for you. Yeah, absolutely, and thanks for the opportunity
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to do that. The one,
the one that I've got, I think
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we'll we'll just blow you away.
And it's about potential, it's about the
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topic we were talking about before the
before the break. So, uh,
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this fella, his name is Jason
Dan and he's a fellow infantry guy like
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me is. He's an ex soldier. In fact, he's an ex Special
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Forces soldier here in the Australian Defense
Force. He was a commando and he
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got out of the military a while
ago as well. And one of the
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things that Jace had always been into
was running. And as an infantry guide,
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you were always running. It's part
of what you do and in some
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ways what you do for living.
Vergers on being a professional athlete, because
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everything you do is centered around your
ability to do things physically. It's a
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very physical job. And Jace discovered
that he was really good at running marathons,
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and it turns out he was really
good at running ultra marathons, and
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in fact, he was so good
at running marathons and ultra marathons that he
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won the very first inaugural Red Bull
La Ultra and the Red Bull La Ultra
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Marathon takes place over five days in
the Himalayas up to seventeen thousand feet and
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it's five hundred and fifty five kilometers
of running and Jason won that race and
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it's a feat of human endurance that
you would just it's hard to describe what
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it is that he did because he
can barely describe it himself because he's one
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of those really quiet Australians and it's
like, come on, man, you've
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got to tell us this story.
Tell us, get this experience and share
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this experience with us. And I
really had to build a lot of rapport
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with Jase before I did the podcast
with him, to get to know him
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a little bit, because he's such
a humble guy and he's like, oh,
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yeah, I want it, Yeah, I ran a long way whatever.
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But when you hear the nitty gritty
of what it is that he went
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through, and you know you're not
supposed to run at seventeen thousand feet because
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the partial pressure of oxygen ups up
there is just not the same as what
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it is down here at ground level. When you take a breath up there,
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because the atmosphere is thinner, it's
like taking half a breath down here
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at sea level. And he was
running at altitude. He was falling behind
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the clock. He had to run
down some of these hills down from seventeen
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down to five thousand feet. They
have these crazy hallucinations in the middle of
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the night because they've been running for
days at a time. And he said,
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the white lines on the road,
the central dividers, look like cobra's
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coming up to try and attack him
at nighttime. And he's running and dodging
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these cobras, and the support crew
behind him are like, what are you
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doing? And he's like the stakes
all over the road, but now and
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as he's coming up to the end
of it, the really cool part of
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the story is what he did to
win and how he actually won. And
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they came to the last checkpoint and
he was in second place, and the
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guy in front of him was quite
quite a way in front of him,
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and they stop and they sleep and
they eat along the way, of course,
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and as he came in there,
one of his support crew said,
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Hey, the fella that's in front
of you he's eaten, and he's now
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asleep. And Jason kind of went, well, I'm not eating, I'm
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not stopping, and I'm not sleeping, and he kept running and he ran,
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he ran past, and he ended
up putting twenty kilometers between him and
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the other guy. By the time
the other guy I realized what was going
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on, he was twenty kilometers ahead. And then Jace felt like that he
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was being chased down for the last
day of the race, the last I
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think it was last seventy or eighty
kilometers or something like that. I can't
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remember exactly, but he felt like
he was being chased. So he kind
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of had that second win if youel
like if you could have a second win
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after all those kilometers, and he
made it to the end and he won
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the race. And it's that story
is a reminder of what you can do
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when you put your mind to something. Because it wasn't the physical thing that
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got him across the line shore that
was that's a big part of it.
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That's eighty five to ninety percent of
it. But the other part of it,
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the one hundred percent of it,
is your mind. You can't you
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can't do something like that unless you're
in the right headspace. And I remember
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asking him, you know, did
you think that you would ever be able
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to do something like that? And
he said no, I was at the
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two hundred and twenty two kilometer mark
and that's the furthest that I'd ever run.
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And I was like, well,
you have to do that again.
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How did you do that? And
he was like, well, I just
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kept on. I just I just
pressed on. And it's a great story
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because it's a story about the potential
of a human being and someone never really
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thought that they could do something like
that, and he never really went out
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there to win it. He just
went out there to do it, and
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he'd won it, and it was
like, oh my gosh, incredible story.
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Incredible story. I love that Rob
on a number of levels, but
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first and foremost, because I do
traffic and energy and inspiration, I know
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how important it is for us to
be inspired, for us to keep our
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hearts and minds healthy and fed with
stories of inspiration that show us what we
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can do and what we can be. So I love the idea that you're
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really I guess your trafficking and potential, that's what you're really doing. And
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the first module of your course is
about mindset, and I wanted you to
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distinguish that if you would, because
you see something pretty compelling on your website
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about that and when you just see
between average and an elite mindset, Will
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you do that for our listeners and
viewers today? Yeah? Absolutely. People
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ask me all the time. This
is kind of where it came from,
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is how do you do what it
is that you do? How do you
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how do you make all of this
happen? The reality is you just need
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a plan. But everyone's got a
plan. Plenty of people got a plan.
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They execute on their plan, it
still fails, and they don't get
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to where it is that they need
to be. They don't hit up against
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their targets. And if you're not
hitting up against your target, even if
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you've got a plan and you've got
goals and you've got all of those things,
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the chances are is that you haven't
got your mindset right. You just
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haven't got your head right. You
need to work on your headspace. And
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so I came up with a kind
of a list of things, and it
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puts down one side of the page. On the left side of the page
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is the way average people think about
things. And if you're missing your goals.
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It's maybe because you're thinking some of
these ways. And the people that
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hit their targets and meet the goals
and meet the expectations and move up to
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the potential and have an elite mindset. So an example is someone with an
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average mindset typically feel sorry for themselves
when things are going against them. They're
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like, oh, what is me? Poor me? Why can't everything work?
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WHI I'm trying so hard, it's
not happening. People with an elite
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mindset, on the other side of
that coin, are so focused on others
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that they don't have time to feel
sorry for themselves. So that's one example.
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Another example is someone with an average
mindset makes an excuse when things are
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not going their way, but someone
with an elite mindset just makes it happen.
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They go over, under, around, breakthrough whatever obstacles are placed in
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front of them, and they keep
forging forward. People with an average mindset,
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they typically wear their emotions on their
sleeves. But people with an elite
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mindset, what they do is they
never show weakness outwardly. And there's nothing
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wrong with being weak and being a
little bit vulnerable, but they don't show
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it. Outwardly. And what they
do is they have big, strong body
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language. You never see a footballer
go out onto the pitch first on the
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on game day and be like,
Oh, I'm scared, I'm going to
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get They're going out there, They've
got their pads on, they've got their
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helmets on. They got that.
They're ready to go. They've got big,
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strong body language, and they're ready
to get after it. They're ready
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to go for it. They're ready
to make it happen. They're not wearing
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their emotions on this sleep. So
I think it's just really important. I'll
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give that some context there for it
as well. So when it comes time
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to play the game on game day, you need to bring your a game
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and leave your emotions aside and concentrate
on your training and move forward. So
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there's a bunch of things in and
around average versus a leade mindset. And
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I know that people that are listening
to this and watching this, they would
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have some things where they go,
Okay, if I'm not feeling so good
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about something, am I feeling sorry
for myself? Or should I just pick
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myself up, dust it off,
pick it up, and just keep moving
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forward and going forward. And I
think intuitively, we know the difference between
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average and aly. I think so
too, but it's good to have it
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distinguished. Now, another thing that
you do that I think is really compelling
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because, as I say, I
traffic an energy and a lot of energy
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for me is motivation. And you
talk about you distinguish the truth about motivation
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in your program. So give us
a snippet of that. Yeah, that's
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a great question, and that's a
really important topic. And I want to
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clear something up for the people that
are listening, because they might be going,
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well, it's easy for you rob
you're in the military for ten years,
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you are just one of those motivated
military guys. But the reality is,
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if you talk to anybody that's been
in the military, some of the
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people are in the military are the
most unmotivated, undisciplined people that you've ever
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encountered in your entire life. And
there's far more motivated and disciplined people in
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business and the corporate world than there
is a military. Because the fact the
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military rules with a carrot and a
stick. They're like, you need to
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be here at this time, in
this uniform, in that heart, or
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else. So you can't live your
life in a place of or else.
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What you need to do is you
need to find the motivation and the discipline
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within yourself. And it's motivation that
gets you started, and it's discipline that
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will keep going. But if you're
not focused on your goals and you don't
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have a plan, all the discipline
in the world is not going to help
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help you to achieve what it is
that you need, because as soon as
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the going gets a little bit tough, you'll let yourself off the hook.
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When you make a declaration to the
world that you've got to go all in,
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that feels really good. Then you
start and the minute it gets a
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little bit hard, you're like,
all right, I've just got to push
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through this bit. I knew it
was going to be hard. You're pushing
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and pushing, and then tomorrow it
gets harder and it gets harder again.
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Discipline is not going to keep going
there. What you need is you need
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a dedicated plan. You need the
right time management, you need to know
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what to focus on. You need
routines and habits of success. If you
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don't have the combination of those things, all the discipline in the world is
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not going to keep you moving forward. But in times of in times of
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short, intense periods and we all
have those throughout our day where distraction might
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creep in. You need to know
that I've got the discipline to not allow
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that distraction to creep into my day, and I can use my discipline right
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now to keep moving forward and keep
me closing your gap from where I am
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to where I want to be.
If you don't use your discipline at the
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right times, then you'll let yourself
off the hook. And it's like arts,
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right Obviously, that chocolate biscuit,
it's not such a big idea,
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a big deal, you know's what's
the big idea of, you know,
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stopping myself having something pleasurable in the
day anyway, But it's the discipline that
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will stop you from eating that chocolate
biscuit and stop you from being naughty.
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And we're all naughty throughout the day, and that's where discipline really comes in.
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But discipline is not going to help
you hit your targets or achieve your
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goals. You need a plan to
do that. I wonder if that's what
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you mean then, right, because
you say I was very fascinated by your
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stance that a focus on our goals
can actually be a form of self sabotage.
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Oh yeah, absolutely, that's fascinating. Yeah. I've worked with with
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lots and lots of clients over the
years in and around this particular topic,
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and part of it is what I'm
not a really big fan of the word
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goal. I prefer high definition destination. And I borrow that. We say
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it again, that's so much better
high definition destination. And I'm borrowing that
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from an American company called after Burner. So these guys are a bunch of
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ex fighter pilots and they use a
methodology called flawless execution. And flawless execution
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is the way fighter pilots actually go
out and fly their jets right and get
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things done, and they have a
ninety eight percent mission success rate when they
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use this model. So fighter pilots
just imagine they don't rock up to work
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and we say, hey, heyles, where are we going in our one
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hundred million dollar jet today? And
you go, I don't know, Let's
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just go over there and drop a
bomb over there. No, there's a
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detailed planning, briefing, and executing
in a debriefing process that they go through,
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and that's the methodology that they use, which is called flawless execution.
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And what they do is they set
the high definition destination. That's the goal,
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that's the target. And you can
use this same methodology in your life.
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What is your high definition destination?
All right? I don't know exactly
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what it is. Now. I
need to create a plan, need to
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brief the plan, need to go
and execute it. Between the execution and
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completion, I need to X gap
to understand where I am in relation to
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where I said I was going to
be. And then on completion, I
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need to debrief myself to make sure
I've got the lessons learned. I know
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exactly how I achieve that. What
did I do right? What did I
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do wrong? What can I change? What do I need to do?
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So if you spend too much time
looking at your goals and looking at that
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high definition destination, then what you'll
do is forget about how it is that
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you're going to get there. That's
why using a methodology like flawss execution is
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a great way to stop you focusing
on the goal. You set the goal,
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you set the target, and then
you spend ninety five percent of your
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time working towards that target, and
every now and then you look up and
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out at what it is that you're
doing and where you're going. But the
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vast majority of the time when you're
trying to achieve the goal, you're looking
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down and in. And I love
the idea of that because what that does
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is it allows you to eat that
elephant one byte at a time. Because
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usually the goals that we set for
ourselves are quite big. So if you
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can just focus on the day to
day activities and don't look up at that
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giant goal that you've gotten, too
often you want to be distracted by,
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oh my god, that's such a
big goal, how am I going to
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get there? How is that going
to happen for me? What you're doing
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is you're focusing on one foot in
front of the other and moving yourself closer
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to that target at every moment of
every day. I like it and I'm
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totally I wrote that down high definition
destination. I love it. That's I'm
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totally changing my language. Thanks for
that. Rob. Let's grab our last
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break. EMILYE. Cortez, your
host. We're on the air with Rob
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Russ. He's the founder of Go
all In, the mission of which is
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to create a movement of people who
only know how to go all In.
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You joined it today from Australia.
After the greak, we're going to hear
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a bit more about his program.
Stay with us, we'll be right back.
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Doctor release Cortes is a management consultant
specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational
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speaker and author. She helps companies
visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
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purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures
that elevate fulfillment, performance and commitment within
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the workforce. To learn more or
to invite Elise to speak to your organization,
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please visit her at elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about how to get
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your employees working on purpose. This
is working on Purpose with doctor Elise Cortes.
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To reach our program today or open
a conversation with Alise, send an
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email to Alise Alise at elisecortes dot
com. Now back to working on purpose.
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Thanks for stating with us, and
welcome back to working on purpose.
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If you're just tuning in, my
guest is Rob Russ. He's the founder
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of Go In, the mission of
which is to create a movement of people
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who only know how to go all
in. He also hosts his own podcast
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called go all In and He's conducted
hundreds of reviews to learn how people tell
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their stories doing whatever it takes to
break through and succeed in every aspect of
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life. I'm your host, doctor
release has so a few more questions about
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the program that I have some other
questions about what you're up to in all
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this work. Here. I want
to talk about time management and accountability because
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I'm always amazed at the difference in
what really extraordinary people get done in twenty
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four hours and what I get done. So what can you tell us about
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that? First of all, you
need to know what you're spending your time
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on. And I think it's a
little bit of a It's a bit of
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an abstract concept, to be honest. It's like, I don't know what
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I spend my time on. I
wake up in the morning and I do
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my thing. But how much time
are you actually spending on the activities that
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are going to move you closer to
your actual goals? And I really believe
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that when somebody says to me,
I'll rob, well, I need a
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hand with my goals, I need
a hand with my targets. Can you
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help me to do this? The
very first thing that comes out of my
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mouth used to be. Yeah,
sure, I can help you. But
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now what i'd say is, what
is it that you're doing today that's moving
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you closer to those targets? Oh
well, you know, I kind of
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haven't got there because of a B
or C. And all the excuses will
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come out, and it's funny how
quickly the excuses come out. The next
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thing that I ask somebody is to
show me their calendar. Give us a
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look at your calendar, show me
your phone, show me whatever calendar app
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that you use, and let's have
a look. If you've got half hour
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or fifteen minute blocks blocked out on
your calendar, and is it blocked out
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from the time you wake up to
the time you go to bed, including
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your downtime, you're eating time,
your family time, All of those things
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need to be blocked out in your
calendar. If you're not in control of
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your time, time is in control
of you, and there is no hack.
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The hack is get your calendar out
and allocate the time that you think
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you need to the activities that you
know that you should be doing. If
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social media is a problem from you, take Facebook and Instagram off your phone,
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just let them on your computer.
And if you need a little breakthrough
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the day, Go and just look
at your computer for five minutes. Use
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that as your break. But don't
be distracted by your phone. You know,
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statistically, and you would know this
at least from working with clients,
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Statistically, we touch our phones one
hundred and sixty eight times an hour.
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It's a massive massiveness. Yeah,
And so think about it. If somebody
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sends you a text message and you
peck out a response to that, you
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know you're typing. That's you touching
your phone one hundred times with those characters,
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right. But then you open Facebook
or Instagram, or you're looking at
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something on YouTube or TikTok or something
like that, and you're scrolling like a
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just like a mindless zombie. That's
a massive distraction to you, and it
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takes you Scientifically, Science says that
it takes you about twenty minutes to get
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into the groove of something. So
once you're starting to focus your attention on
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things, but then the alerts on
your phone go off, where your email
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goes off, or the phone rings, or somebody comes over and invades your
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cubicle. There's a bunch of things
that happen that stop you from moving forward.
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And all of these things go to
the very heart of time management,
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and if you get control of all
of these things, then you'll be in
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control of time and that's how you're
able to achieve more. And I always
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ask myself the question when I'm about
to start an activity, is this activity
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related to making money? Is this
activity related to moving closer to the goal
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that I've set for myself? And
if it is, I do it.
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If it's not, I sit back
for a second and say, well,
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should I be handing this off to
a member of my team, or should
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I be giving this to somebody else, or should I be finding somebody that
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can do this task for me?
And I work really methodically like that,
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and I block out my calendar in
half hour blocks. I find that that
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works for me. But I do
that on a Sunday evening. My week
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starts at Sunday evening at eight o'clock. I'm really I'm ultra ultra militant about
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doing that because I want the first
half of my week. And sometimes it's
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impossible to do right because I don't
know what's going to happen on Thursday or
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Friday. On Sunday nine at eight
o'clock, So what I do is I
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just do Monday, Tuesday and half
of Wednesday, and I'll leave myself the
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flexibility to go, Okay, the
back half of the week is going to
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look like this, and I give
myself that opportunity. What you've got to
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do is you've got to find what
works for you. But once you get
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control of time, and once you
get control of your calendar, and it's
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such an unbelievably simple thing to do, you'll find that things start to fall
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in the place for you pretty quickly. I really appreciate that I have fallen
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off so of calendaring my time,
and I do do it a little bit
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more haphazardly on my paper calendar,
but there was a time when I did
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exactly what you're saying and I did
get better results. So already I'm learning
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from you and being contributed to layers
with thank you, Rob. And speaking
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of that, there's two other things
they definitely want to make sure and ask
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you before we run out of time
and it goes so fast. You talk
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about habits and routines, and that's
part of what you were just talking about
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there, But can you say a
little bit more about why they're important and
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how we can steward them. Yeah. Absolutely, and it's a really great
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point because it ties into time management. Yeah. You know, there's a
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lot of people out there in the
NLP and they look at the patterns of
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behavior and how do I speak?
And what's his body language? Is it?
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You know, is he somebody who
learns orally or is he a visual
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person? All of those things there
go to the very heart of habits and
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the way that you actually behave and
you need to develop habits and routines of
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success. There's a really famous American
ex Navy seal. His name's Jocko Willing.
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You might have heard of Jocko and
so Jocko's an ex seal commander from
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the Battle of Ramadi in two thousand
and six, two thousand and seven,
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and he's really popular as this great
podcast about war stories and all sorts of
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great interviews and things like that.
And he takes a photo of his watch
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at four o'clock in the morning and
anywhere between four and no really no later
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than about four point thirty in the
morning. And every morning he takes a
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photo of his watch. Is like
time to get up, time to get
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after it. And that's his routine. And people ask him all the time,
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dude, you've got to stay in
bed longer, aren't you tired?
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And he's like, well, I
go to bed a bit earlier, So
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I get up earlier. It's all
right, And I do my workout on
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the front half of my day because
my day gets so busy that I have
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these intentions to go and do some
exercise in the middle or the end of
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the day, but it just never
get there. And by the time I
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get there, I'm too tired to
do it. So the first thing that
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I do in the morning is I
get out of bed, I have a
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drink of water, and I get
started and I do my workout, and
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I make that happen, that that
I arrived there and happens for me.
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Routines and habits of success like that
are the very foundational pieces of you moving
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forward and closing the gap from where
you are to where you want to be.
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And I think it's really hard to
articulate why we don't do it and
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why people don't have these routines,
and they're kind of all over the place.
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Why don't you do that thing?
Why don't you get up and exercise,
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Why don't you do that? I
don't know. I just couldn't be
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bothered with it. But actually,
every single person on the planet has a
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routine. Every single person on the
planet has different habits. Whether those habits
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are serving you or not is really
up to you. I think we can
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all work better to develop better habits
and to develop better routines that are more
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serving of us rather than something that's
actually holding us back and distracting us from
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what it is that we set for
ourselves. And it's difficult to do.
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And the reason it's difficult to do
is because as human beings, we want
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to move towards things that are more
pleasurable in a way from it that are
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not so fun. And pulling on
a kettle bell at four point thirty in
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the morning doesn't sound like much fun
to me. Being wrapped up under the
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doom and snuggling up to my missus
sounds like way more fun than in a
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kettle bell in the garage at four
thirty in the morning, like JOCKO.
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And it takes all the effort and
discipline in the world to develop a routine
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like that, and you just need
to be deliberate about it. But once
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you delivered about it, and it
comes back to the very heart of your
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time management. If you allocate the
time to do those things for yourself,
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you start to achieve more in a
much shorter timeframe. Stuff, really good
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stuff. Well, I'm also very
intrigued you talk about this little known rule
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of subtension. What the heck is
that? So the rule of subtension is,
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as I guess, it's an infantry
thing, but it's also an aviator
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thing as well. So the rule
of subtension that I learned when I was
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an infantry soldier is that one millimeter
at one thousand meters equals one meter.
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So what it means is you need
to aim straight, don't even be one
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millimeter off what you're aiming at.
And whether you're firing an assault rifle,
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a machine gun, a sniper rifle, or you're setting a goal for yourself
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in your life, don't be one
millimeter off. The effective range of the
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assault rifles that I used in my
time back in the day was three hundred
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meters, So these the bad guys
are pretty close to you at three hundred
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meters. If you're engaging a target, there's you can see these people.
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They're close, you can see them, and you're you rifle stops being effective
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at around four hundred meters. You
star have to start to aim up and
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you're kind of loft and around at
somebody and just doesn't work the same way.
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But if you're one millimeter off where
you're aiming at three hundred meters,
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which is the effective range of the
assault rifle, you will miss the target
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by thirty centimeters and get taught as
an infutry soldier to aim at the center
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of the scene mass. So if
you're aiming at the center of the target
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or the center of a human being, if that's what you're aiming at,
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because that's what the target is,
and you're thirty centimeters off, it means
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you will miss, because thirty centimeters
is about a foot in Imperial terms in
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American terms, if you like,
And if you're a foot off the target,
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that round will go down the left
or the right side of what it
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is that you're aiming at. So
the rule of subtension is one millimeter at
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one thousand meters, one thousand meters
equals one meter. That subtends to that
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as well. And the analogy that
I use is that if you're not aiming
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straight at your target, you will
miss. So before you get started,
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before you do anything, get down, lie down on your guts, get
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into the right firing position, get
ready to go, and aim at exactly
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what it is that you want to
hit. Whether that's a target on the
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range, a bad guy in the
battlefield, or a goal that you've got
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for yourself in your personal life or
your business life. You've got to aim
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straight and aim true at all times
under and don't deviate from that under any
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circumstances. Don't give yourself a break. These discipline as you can. That's
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the target I want. Never ever
change your target, never ever lower your
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expectations because things get too hard.
Just aim straight and keep pushing forward.
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So what I hear from that,
I'm going to just say it for our
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listeners and reviewers is we're going to
channel our inter rub whenever we're up to
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something right, So what's going to
happen. You're going to hear a voice
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in your head that's going to be
this is my inter rub. I'm going
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for it, Okay, And again
I want to remind remind you and thank
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you again Rob listeners and viewers that
Rob is giving you a thirty percent discount
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if you decide to take his course. And the way you get that is
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when you go to check out,
you put you put in WOP for the
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discount code. We're working on purpose. So again for that Rob, but
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getting a taste of what it is
that he does for people. Okay,
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so we're almost out of time already, and now I want to get to
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the big why here. So you've
created a go all in movement. This
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is important to you. This is
your this is your life's work. It
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is why this is so important to
you? Why? Why is it so
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important? And how do you why
do you think it's so important to be
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doing this work in the world today. Yeah, it's a it's a really
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good question that's not asked by enough
podcasters already. And I'm so glad that
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you asked that question because it gives
me the opportunity and it reminds me as
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well why I do it. And
for me, it's pretty simple. It's
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just about human connection. And I
love to celebrate other people's success because I
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know personally what it feels like to
win. It's successful always mean money.
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I'm not talking about money. I'm
not talking about a financial win. I'm
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talking about setting a target for yourself. And seeing that in high definition and
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understanding what you need to do to
get there, because nobody can do anything
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by themselves in this world. And
the analogy that I use all the time
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is life and business, especially business
is a lot like being a paratrooper that
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how could that be true? Well, as a paratrooper, no paratrooper has
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ever jumped out of an aeroplane by
themselves. And you don't jump out of
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a plane by yourself either. When
you do something in the military, you're
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always with other people. It takes
a team of people, a team of
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dedicated professionals and highly trained and highly
skilled people to get you to the door
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of that plane, so you can
jump out at twelve or fifteen thousand feet
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or at a thousand feet And life
is the same way. And I do
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what I do because I understand intuitively, and being brought up in the military
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and being raised in the military and
becoming a man in the military, I
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know that you just can't do things
by yourself. And if I can help
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people achieve the goals that they set
for themselves, then I'm living my life
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to its full potential, and I'm
living my purpose every day. That's so
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beautiful Robin love that and the world
desperately needs that. We need that leg
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up, we need that encouragement,
We need to be shown the way as
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well. So thank you for the
work that you're doing. Last, here
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we are for the end. You
know, on this show is listen to
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by people all over the world,
and it's really meant to be able to
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help them discover and access more meaning, purpose and inspiration and their laves in
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their work. And we're trying to
create a workplace where people actually want to
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come to. So at about I
think thirty seconds or last, what would
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you like to leave our listeners with? Well, I would ask you what
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is it that you're working on that's
closing the gap from where you are to
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where you want to be? And
what is it that you can do to
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commit and go a little bit harder, a little bit faster, and how
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can you expedite what it is that
you're doing. Usually the answer to that
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question is turn off all of the
distractions, turn off the news, turn
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off your social media, and concentrate
on you and concentrate on yourself. And
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when you do that, you'll find
things start to accelerate and you'll start to
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achieve the things that you're looking for, just by focusing inwood on yourself just
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a little bit more. Oh,
it's a great finish, Rob, thank
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you so much for that, and
thank you for being on the show with
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us and sharing us your heart,
your soul, your wisdom, your experience
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00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.280
is beautiful. Thank you. It's
an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much
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for having me absolutely. Listeners and
viewers. If you want to learn more
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about Rob or his go all In
course, go to his website which is
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go all in dot com dot au. Remember you can use the WOP code
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to get thirty percent off the Elite
Mastermind course if you want to take that.
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It's a gift for listening in today. Last week you give us the
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live show you always catch it.
We recorded podcasts. We were on there
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with Elizabeth lil Tardo talking about her
book Selling with Noble Purpose, how to
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drive revenue and do work that makes
you proud. Next week will be on
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the air with Norman Wolf talking his
book The Living Organization, Transforming business to
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create extraordinary results. See you there. That work is at least a bit
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of our life, so let's work
on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this
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week's program. Be sure to tune
in too. Working on Purpose featuring your
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host, doctor Elise Cortes, each
week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.
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Together, we'll create a world where
business operates conscientiously, leadership inspires impassioned performance,
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and employees are fulfilled in work that
provides the meaning and purpose they crave.
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See you there, Let's work on
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