Cultivating Essential Energy for Thriving in Life

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be

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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want

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Working on Purpose now. Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome

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back to the Working on Purpose Program. Thanks for tuning again this week.

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I'm your host, Doctor Julie's Cortes. Joining you live from Dallas, Texas,

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which is home base for me.
If you don't know me yet,

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management consultant, specialize in meaning and
purpose, organizational logotherapist, inspirational speaker,

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social scientist, and author. You
can learn more about me and how we

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can work together at a leascoretes dot
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Joyce tom As speaker, executive coach, and catalyst for change in the fields

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of resilience, wellness and conscious leadership
in Silicon Valley. She has led business

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and product innovations at Intuit, eBay, SRI International, and was CEO of

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a database infrastructure startup. After seeing
the impacts of stress and high pressure environments,

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she found an energy at Worco in
two thousand and two to help executives

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and entrepreneurs accelerate their growth while bring
bringing more balance and satisfaction to their lives.

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We'll be talking about the mindsets that
are necessary toward purposeful living and working

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in the relationship to purpose, tools
for the journey and overcoming obstacles. She

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does U today from the San Francisco
area. Joyce, Welcome to Working on

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Purpose, Hiles. Thank you for
the opportunity to be here with you in

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your audience today. It is so
great. And you know, when we

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first were introduced, I was like, oh my gosh, we our two

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piece in a pod. We're so
like minded. So but of course,

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you know, like every single one
of us on the planet, you have

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your own very unique niche and view
on the matter that we're going to talk

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about today. And so I think
first we have to talk a little bit

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about, as I introduced you,
just where this work came from. So

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you spent what twenty some years in
the Silicon Valley area and learned a few

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things along the way that pointed you
to this work. So situate for us,

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why this work? Why now?
Sure? Well, I had a

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background in the corporate arena and my
focus was on help to facilitate change in

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organizations and that was great. And
as I saw those changes evolved, I

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saw the toll that it took on
people and organizations, and personally, I

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was doing a lot of other work
on myself with meditation, with somatic practices,

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with emotional intelligence work, and I
thought, well, how can I

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be of the most service. So
after a career in Silicon Valley, I

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just said I'm going to step away
and start to offer other things that that

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might be helpful to all the people
who were involved in in innovation and technology

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and growth to help to help make
it easier for them, because I think

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that there's so many people who are
inspired to make contributions in the world,

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and when they meet the challenges that
inevitably happened, they want to be able

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to to move along their journey easier, in a more easy way, in

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a more fluid way, and a
more fulfilling way. And so that's what

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I decided to do with Energy at
Work, was to help people in that

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in their endeavors. That's so great. And you know, as we spoke

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about before when we were first getting
acquainted on the phone, I've just really

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come to see. My perspective is
that everything is energy, and so it's

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just really how do we mobilize that
energy, how do we use it most

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productively and certainly as we care about
toward our purpose. And so for this

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first segment, I know we wanted
to focus on journey and destination mindsets and

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their relationship to purpose, and so
maybe we could start You gave me an

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article. I read most of it, by the way, but not all

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the people, but most of it
and about the Stanford's research, And so

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I wanted to first start with,
how does Stanford's research help us refine our

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strategy for working on purpose? Your
perspective on that, sure, let me

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step back and give a little bit
of context for that, and that is

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that people are often interested in change, and change is great, but it's

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about when that change becomes sustainable,
when it's lasting, and then that change

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turns to meaningful growth for people and
organizations. And that's one of my main

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interests. And so what Stanford did
was it looked at different things that happened

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with people when they accomplished goals,
and they found out that people often when

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they accomplished goals, they pause,
they pat themselves on the back, and

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then they may or may not,
They may turn their attention to something else

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and not continue that progress. In
fact, they made backslide. And so

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before we get into their exact research, I want to just bring up this

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analogy of a sprint in a marathon. So, you know, in today's

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society and in business, success is
often linked to short term metrics that encourage

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us to go full out, you
know, just they're always saying, oh,

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you know, one hundred and twenty
percent, one hundred and twenty percent.

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And I know that when I was
starting out in the corporate world way

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back when as a strategic management consultant, I was definitely on that path of

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like, Okay, we have a
client engagement and they've got offices in London

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and Tokyo and the US, and
so I would just be working around the

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clock in the fact, and I
would find myself slipping on the floor in

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the office because in it weren't even
laptops, that's how long ago it was.

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And so to get access to your
data, you actually had to stay

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in the office to be able to
access your big computer. And that's not

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really a sustainable kind of thing,
right, it really isn't. It's not

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very good for us, and it's
not good for our work, and it's

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not good for the teams. And
I liken that to the sprint mentality,

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where you've got this deadline, Okay, I'm just gonna for a couple months,

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We're just gonna really crank it out, and then what happens at the

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end, You kind of collapse and
you backslide, right, You're just burnt

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out and it doesn't work. And
so then we often graduate along our career

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to the idea of a marathon.
So then I moved out to Silicon Valley

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and the product cycles were different.
It wasn't a couple of months. It

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was like a yearly product launch at
that point before the internet was really big,

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so it was a yearly product product
launch cycle. So you paste yourself

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a little bit more like marathon,
and you you did do some more self

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care, but at the end it
sort of turned into a sprint, and

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then you ended up again at the
end being a little bit were a lot

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burned out and needing a fair amount
of time to recover, and you didn't

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necessarily have the energy to then begin
to grow and develop what you wanted to

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do it professionally or personally. And
so we've got both of the sprint and

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the marathon analogies are very goal oriented, like get to this point, reach

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your goal and ad set. And
there's a whole nother paradigm for looking at

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life, which is a journey mindset. And that's what Stanford Research started to

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look into. They said, okay, well we know that what happens when

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people have this goal or destination mindset, then they stop, they have to

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and they backslide, and so there's
not sustained growth and what can what what

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would be what would make it different? So they decided to test something out.

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And what they did was they took
a number of different research studies where

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people were in programs with specific goals
like a weight loss program or a fitness

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program, or even an executive training
program. And at the end of the

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program, after people had done what
they needed to do, they asked all

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of the participants to reflect on what
had happened in the program, and they

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gave different prompts. Some people were
asked to reflect on it as a journey,

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and some people were asked to reflect
on it as a destination, and

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some people were given no prompts at
all. And they wanted to see what

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happened in terms of people's learning and
growth and the benefits, did the benefits

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sustain and then were their future actions
in alignment with the goals that they wanted

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to continue their purpose and so on. And so the result of that is

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that when the people who were invited
to reflect on the program as a journey

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were able to continue their progress.
So, for example, if you have

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been in a fitness program and you
met your goals. After the program ended,

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you continue to exercise and you continue
to make choices that were in alignment

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with good health and fitness instead of
slacking off. For example, like with

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with diet programs, I'm sure many
people can relate to it. You get

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on the diet, you hold to
it, you know, you gut it

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out, you meet your goals,
you drop the weight, but then when

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it's done, after a while,
you backslide. But in this case,

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the people who were just asked to
reflect on it as if it were a

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journey, didn't. They stayed on
it, They continued to progress and with

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their weight loss goals, and they
continue to make decisions that were in alignment.

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So no cheating and bringing on the
chocolate afterwards. So that was a

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really interesting, you know, finding
that the Stanford folks had, which was,

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hey, if you reflect on your
whatever your experiences were, and you

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look at it as a process instead
of an event instead of a goal,

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you will actually be able to grow. Okay. So I did read that.

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A couple of things that I really
appreciated about that research. One I

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love research, and two I actually
really appreciated that the authors or this and

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the researchers looked at various kinds of
growth related activities, and I thought that

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that was actually stillar and that they
were able to find that similar thread.

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So then of course we have to
ask, for the purpose of this conversation,

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how does that relate to the strategy
for working on purpose? Right?

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So, I think one of the
main problems that people encounter with why they're

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not able to move forward with their
purpose is that they're confusing purpose, purpose

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and goals. And you know,
I think that actually, well, I'm

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sorry, what were you going to
say? No, No, I completely

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agree with you. People confuse purpose
and goals all the time. They also

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confuse meaning and purpose. They're also
not the same, right, And I

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think that purpose is a much bigger
thing and a much higher thing than a

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goal. A purpose is something that, in my perspective, you can't actually

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ever achieve. You can just continue
to work towards it. It's not something

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that you you know, want and
done done with that purpose, And so

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it's got this other quality to it
that's more like a north star. So

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the north star is big, it's
bright, and wherever we're at we can

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see the north star and we can
head towards it, and the exact route

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doesn't exactly matter as long as we
continue to head towards that direction, and

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so it can illuminate and guide us
in our actions and our decisions, right

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and listeners and viewers, and how
you might now situate goals since we said

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that they were not the same as
purpose, as imagine, like I'm looking

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right now in a list of eight
goals that I have on my list to

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get done here in twenty twenty one, all of which are directed by and

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feed into the fulfillment of my purpose. So I can have like almost whatever

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and maybe unlimited number of goals that
might support what it is for me to

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live my purpose and be an expression
of my purpose, but they're not my

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purpose. That's how I would distinguish
that exactly exactly. And I think what's

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kind of interesting is that the Eastern
Wisdon traditions, which I'm very interested in,

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really take this approach of purpose,
which is linked to destiny and so

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on, as a birth to death
kind of journey. So that's the language

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that they use that it's a lifelong
journey. It's not just you know,

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episodic here and there, let's just
finish this goal. It really has this

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long quality. And when you when
you step back and you look at purpose

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as this lifelong thing, then you
really do it changes your life. Oh

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my gosh, Joyce, you know
I love this. I can. That's

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how I see it for me,
right, I do have some I am

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touched a little bit by more of
the Eastern wisdom traditions, not entirely just

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the Western, just because of my
travel and what I'm interested in. And

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I'll tell you. For that anthology
of women, I found twenty five women

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from across the globe to share their
stories of how they discover their purpose and

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are now persevering mightily to live it. And the way that I set up

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the questions, unbeknownst at the time, sort of invited them to look at

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it more as a journey. And
so a lot of us told our story

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the ongoing unfoldment of how it was
to become. It didn't just make sense

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in a moment. Wasn't just revealed
to us in a moment said ah,

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here it is what you're supposed to
be doing. But over the course of

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your life you could see how it
unfolded. And when you look at it

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that way and you see that it's
continuing to unfold. We're still on that

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journey, We're still on that path. And then it's then it's exciting to

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say, well, where else is
it going to go? Where else is

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it going to take me? It's
already really good. Now that's so beautiful.

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What a wonderful experience for the folks
who are there, and and I'm

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sure it changed their lives, many
of them who contributed so that that the

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experience of writing their life stories was
cathartic. And by the way, listen,

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listeners and viewers, I am now
now launching the Men's Anthology. So

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now we've collected the twenty five women, I'm out trolling the globe for men

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who have discovered their purpose and want
to share their story in this next anthology.

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So please do contact me at at
leastcoartest dot com and let me know

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if you want you want to talk
about it and be considered, because it's

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the next thing that I'm doing.
It's so exciting, it's so fun.

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So say more about this, this
this Taoist view of destiny purpose and how

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do you did you learn about that? What do you what do you where

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does it speak to you? Yes? Well, it's it's it's both like

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it's Eastern, so it's Talist and
it's also Buddhists. There's similar traditions in

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some ways, not always, but
this idea of oh, yes, this

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this path that that that we trod
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to do is to be able to
see are we on the path or are

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we like just you know, zigzagging
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the way that we go. So
the idea is, how can we connect

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with that path? How do we
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we're deviating from it, and what
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the path will shift a little bit. And so I've been interested in

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these sorts of approaches to life for
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to me that it provides such guidance
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around. I don't have to get
every little detail right now. I'm looking

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at the big picture of the journey
over life. And if I'm hitting in

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the right direction, that's good.
It's fantastic. Oh, this is just

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a yummy conversation. Joyce. I'm
so glad you agreed to join me and

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let's grab our first break out.
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My guess is Joyce Tom founder of
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Todos today from the San Francisco Bay
Area. I'm your host, doctor

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Release Cortes. So for this next
segment here, I'm really interested in this

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notion of yours, of tools for
the journey, and I know you and

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I probably both get a very similar
question and people want to know, you

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know, how do I find my
purpose? I mean, I was just

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speaking to a group of National Charity
League mothers and daughters Sunday, and I

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asked that question, how many of
you think you know your purpose? And

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there were probably two hundred and fifty
people in the audience. I guess how

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many hands went up? Oh?
Many one? Oh, my goodness,

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I understand, you know, I
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people do want to know how do
I find my purpose? And so talk

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to us a little bit about your
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question and some tools along the way. Sure, well, you know,

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I know that a lot of people
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some of the research that I've seen, only twenty percent of people really feel

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certain that they know their purpose,
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people at some point have felt like
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So it is a big, big, big issue for people. And one

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of the things I think people start
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it out right, and they effort
at it. When I think that one

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thing that could really be helpful as
a tool is to step back and just

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work on self awareness. The base
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I mean intellectually, emotionally, physically, et cetera. Because without self awareness,

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how can we connect deeply with our
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me to be the basic foundation of
We can come up with ideas about purpose,

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but is it our purpose? You
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unless we know ourselves? M H. I have found that there is such

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a desperate hunger for people to really
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just kind of declare one and it's
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stand for or what they kind of
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not their purpose. And I understand, I really do understand where that comes

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from. And then that they want
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more juice to it, has more
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at the end of the day,
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this notion that you talk about self
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GPS system tell us more about that. Well, So if we if we're

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using this metaphor of a journey,
right and we're we're here and are trying

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to go towards in the direction of
our north star or purpose, what's important

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with our GPS system it has to
know where we're starting from. Right,

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If we don't know where we're starting
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work very well. And how do
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have to begin that self inquiry of
well, you know what's going on with

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me today? And like you just
mentioned, people think of some good ideas

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and they declare it a purpose,
or they feel something, they feel some

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emotion and then they use that to
declare a purpose. But those aren't always

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in corporate, you know, taking
care of our whole self. It's not

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taking our whole self into consideration.
And that's why purpose is a little bit

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hard, or the path is a
little bit tricky. If you've got the

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head saying I should do this.
This sounds like a good purpose, but

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the heart says no, but this
is what I want to do. You're

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going at cross purposes and the GPS
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not very efficient and it's not likely
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fulfillment. Well, and this is
where I think you were gets really really

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interesting to me because you distinguish this
notion of the energy fuel gauge and as

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being useful to understanding when we are
aligned to our purpose and I'll quickly say

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that I know that for me as
I've gone through my own journey of purpose

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and living it and expressing it and
honoring it. When the closer I get

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to it, the more crazy intense
my energy is. It's like, oh

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my gosh, where did that come
from? Where to tell us more about

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this energy gauge, Well, let's
just it's again using this metaphor of this

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journey. So if if we're on
this journey, then our vehicle is like

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our physical body, and we want
to check in to see how much energy

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we have. How much fuel is
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Right? And I think most people, I mean sometimes people go, oh

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energy, it's too woo woo.
Right, don't know that. I don't

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know anything about energy. But if
somebody said to you, hmm, think

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of your think of how you are
right now, and check in if you

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were taking in on your your fuel
gauge, like in a car, are

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you on empty, are you on
full? Or where along you know long

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the spectrum, one quarter, half
or three quarters? How much energy do

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you have in your fuel tank?
And that's relevant because if you don't have

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a lot of fuel, how are
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not going to get very far without
the fuel. Yeah, it's so true.

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And so then that's where I'll quickly
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have some ways to build some of
these skills. But one of the reasons,

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one of the reasons that I am
a logo therapist, which is really

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the whole practice of generating or I
should say, discovering, encountering, being

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able to see meaning in the moment
is because meaning is are from my vantage

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point, our ultimate energy source.
And so the more that you can actually

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find meaning in the moment across your
life or energy that you have, and

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especially when you align it with your
purpose. So you have some tools to

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be able to help build some of
these skills or some approaches. Can you

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tell us about a few of those, right, I mean, and it's

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going to sound simple, but the
thing is mostly the hardest part about it

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is remembering to do it. So
I'll just say that, and that is

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just a simple check in, a
really basic check in, which says at

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the beginning of the day, at
the end of the day, or before

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you know an important event, is
just to check in with ourselves and say,

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huh, how is my mind right? Now is it clear, is

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it foggy, is it racing?
Is it settled? How much energy is

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zipping around in our mind and then
tuning in then to our emotional center and

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listening because we know also that emotions
are a huge motivator for us, right,

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I mean, there's a lot that
we can do when our emotions are

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in alignment with what with our purpose
for example, And so what's our emotional

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state? Are we reluctant and resistant? Are we frustrated that's not going to

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help us on our journey? Or
are we in a place of excitement and

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curiosity and gratitude for what's opening up
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you can just maybe even feel like, oh wow, yeah, if I'm

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in a grateful space, if I'm
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I've got enough energy to you know, do quite a lot, accomplished quite

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a lot in the world. And
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level is our physical body. How
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we have a lot of we really
want to do something, it's really important

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to us, but we don't have
the physical energy to do it. And

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if we ignore that and we you
know, nobody would run their their car

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on empty, right. We know
that that's a bad thing. It clogs

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up the fuel lines, and then
there's a lot of maintenance problems and then

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you've got a big, you know, big repair bill at the end.

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We ignore those three different types of
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we've got, and we just say, oh no, I'm going to get

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through it because it's important to me. And although we can get some energy

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from doing things that we love,
it's again stepping back and seeing that big

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picture like that. The Eastern approach
is you've got a certain amount of energy

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to go through your life, and
if you're burning it up too quickly,

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or if you're zigzagging and not efficient
with it, you're just not going to

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have enough to get as far as
you might like to go. So it's

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really worthwhile to ask those basic questions, how am I doing? What do

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I need so and listen to the
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question. You want to actually listen
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what is needed. Two things come
to mind to add to that beautiful set

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of points that you made there first. I had doctor Nahasang on on my

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show last May. I think it
was. She's phenomenal. She's become a

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friend as well and a colleague.
But she has a whole book out called

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Talk r ex and she really distinct
wishes that emotions are energy and motion,

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so you have to steward them through
your body in order to really make them

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work with you, and you most
certainly cannot ignore them. They will not

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be ignored, right, And so
with the more the better that you get

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a really first understanding those emotions,
naming them, understanding them, honoring them,

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and stewarding them through your person.
The more that you can you can

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you can utilize that energy and even
literally channel it through you for a very

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productive ent. So that's the first
thing I would say, anything you want

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to comment from that before I go
to my second point, Yes, exactly,

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I'd like to take it to the
workplace situation. Because our our head,

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our heart and our body are like
are like teammates, right, and

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so if you were going into a
group meeting and saying, oh, we've

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got this, this, this this
purpose. You know our mission, our

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vision, what do you guys think
about that? Or how are you feeling

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about that, and there were concerns, there were fears, there was excitement.

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There's a whole bunch of different reactions
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leader, you would want to listen
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be able to help harmonize the team, help, you know, get everybody

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together to move towards the same in
the same direction. You would ignore somebody

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or you would say, oh,
yeah, I know you're afraid of that.

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Too bad, we're doing this anyway. You know, that's not great

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leadership skills. So we are like
our awareness, our consciousness is the leader

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of our whole being, and it's
really useful for us to go ahead and

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take all that into consideration so that
we can be we can move forward.

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That's beautiful. I love that idea
that they're all on the same team.

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I love that. Yeah, and
then you have the conscious leader who's directing

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them. I love that. Okay. So the second point that I wanted

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to make is, and you talk
about how we have there's amount we have

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this energy, and generally speaking,
we need we need to manage it and

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deal with what we have. We
can increase it through exercise and other things

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like that, and being high on
purpose, of course, But what I

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want to make sure that I also
emphasize is that's really important. And this

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gets much clearer when you to your
point, really work from the purpose as

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a north star guiding point, and
you can recognize, you know, you

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can start to more easily see what
fits within that purview of my purpose.

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And a lot of us spend a
lot of time and effort and energy on

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activities that actually don't help us fulfill
our purpose, and someone else can do

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them very handily, thank you very
much. And when you clear them off

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your plate and your path, you
have this much bigger runway and all this

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extra energy to throw yourself toward that
north star of purpose. And so I

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can't tell you how important it is
to really evaluate how you're spending your energy,

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where is it going, taking inventory
of that, and then clearing out

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where it really isn't serving you very
well. Do you really have to be

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the one that does all the dishes, changes the oil in your car,

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does all the laundry, does all
this extra stuff on your project and your

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team? Really do you have to
do all that? So that's the kind

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of thing I really want to encourage
you to evaluate, because once you start

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to get clear about what's pulling away, the energy is pulling away from your

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purpose, you'll have more bandwidth energy
to devote to your purpose, comments Joyce.

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Excellent point. I think that we
often think that we have to do

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it all and that's not necessarily it's
not true, and it doesn't actually help

417
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further the contributions that we could make
in the world. Yeah. Yeah,

418
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a wonderful point. I agree,
and I encourage I also encourage people to

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take that into consideration and see what
changes might be helpful for people to make

420
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in their lives. You'd be amazed
how you can really quickly get over doing

421
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some of these things that you spend
a lot of time doing, move on

422
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to the next, higher level order
of things. And to that end,

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I definitely wanted to talk with you. I know you have you and I

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share this notion here about ongoing self
awareness because our purpose will evolve as we

425
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grow. Say more about why that's
important to keep track of and steward.

426
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Yes, because I think once people
this idea of purpose is and finding purpose

427
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.400
is such a big deal to people
that once they find something that they want

428
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to latch on to, then they
just kind of keep going towards that same

429
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you know, that same purpose,
that same north star for their whole lives.

430
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But as we continue to grow and
evolve, it's natural, it's not

431
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maybe surprising to think that what's important
to us and therefore what our purpose is

432
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will change as well. And so
this idea of check ins along the way,

433
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regular check ins to say, oh, is this purpose that has been

434
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a wonderful guiding star for me for
five, ten, fifteen years, is

435
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:32.759
it still the right one for me? Or do I need to update it

436
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:40.000
and revise it and then shift navigate
towards the new north star for us?

437
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.640
And I think some people they at
some point in the life they decide this

438
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is what I'm about, and then
they just keep chugging along in that direction

439
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.920
for the rest of your life.
And then there's this divergence from who they

440
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:53.119
are, who they are at the
current time, and where they're heading.

441
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So I think it's useful for our
people to do that check in and regularly

442
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.440
see whether or not their their north
star has changed a little bit. Well.

443
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And what I also tell you listeners
and viewers is as you step on

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your path to purpose and really listen
into that gentle whisper that's trying to get

445
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.920
your attention and tell you which step
to take next along that path. As

446
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.160
you serve it, you really will
continue to grow and expand. And that

447
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.279
means your eyes and your ability to
see things will change. And since things

448
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.640
will change, it will evolve,
and therefore you'll see things newly that you

449
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.039
didn't see before as opportunities and ways
to serve. And then, of course,

450
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.400
don't forget the world will continue to
change along with you, also then

451
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.400
serving up new opportunities and ways of
being in the world. So yeah,

452
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.920
keeping a really close tab on you
and how you and your purpose are connected

453
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:45.680
and relating to the world and serving
the world is of critical importance. And

454
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.839
by the way, it's fun.
It's not just you know something you have

455
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.880
to do. It's a fun thing
to track and go let this thing carry

456
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:57.519
you along the way. Absolutely,
isn't this fun? All right? Well,

457
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let's grab our last bread here.
I'm Elise Cortez, your host.

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We are on here with Joyce tom
a speaker, executive coach, and catalyst

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00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.440
for change in the fields of resilience, wellness and conscious leadership. We've been

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00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.000
talking about the tools for our journey
of purpose. After the break We're going

461
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.680
to get more into overcoming obstacles to
the journey. Stay with us, We'll

462
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:20.960
be right back. Doctor Release Cortes
is a management consultant specializing in meaning and

463
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:25.880
purpose and inspirational speaker and author.
She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose among

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00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:34.680
stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership and
meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,

465
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.440
and commitment within the workforce. To
learn more or to invite Elise to

466
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:44.400
speak to your organization, please visit
her at Elisecortes dot com. Let's talk

467
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:54.680
about how to get your employees working
on purpose. This is Working on Purpose

468
00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:00.359
with Doctor Elise Cortes. To reach
our program today or open a conversation with

469
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:07.759
Elise, send an email to Elise
Alise at Elise Coortes dot com. Now

470
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:17.000
back to working on Purpose. Thanks
for staying with us, and welcome back

471
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:21.079
to Working on Purpose. I mentioned
after the first break about the Grab Your

472
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.000
Gusto Wellbeing podcast learning series. The
content of this program is adapted from part

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00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:30.440
one of my recently published book called
Purpose Ignited, How Inspiring Leaders ignite passion

474
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.799
and Elevate Cause, which is now
available on Amazon. I wrote it to

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00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.960
awaken us to their passion and purpose
and help transform them into inspirational leaders who

476
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.960
enliven the workplace and elevate the contribution
of business to all at stakeholders. So

477
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.039
that's where the content came from.
If you're just joining us, My guest

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today is from the San Francisco Bay
Area, Joyce Tom, the founder of

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Energy at Work and speaker, executive
coach, and catalyst for change. I'm

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00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.319
your host, doctor Les Fortes.
So for this last segment here, this

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is a great great because you know
people are going well, but yeah,

482
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but this sounds good. But but
you know along the way, what am

483
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I gonna? What am I going
to find? And I love your concept

484
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.440
that you talk from, this notion
that we tend to believe that more is

485
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.039
better and then we keep pushing until
burnout happens, which is certainly something that's

486
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.119
happened for a lot of us in
the pandemic, especially if we have a

487
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.480
goal versus journey mindset. So tell
us more about that and why do we

488
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:24.280
tend to do that? It's that
all about Well, I think it's it's

489
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:29.519
natural, especially in this time and
age and culture, that we think,

490
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.960
oh, you know, especially if
we're conflating a goal mindset with purpose.

491
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.079
Then the more goals we have and
the more we accomplish them and we just

492
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.920
tick them off, you know,
like Pokemon, you know things, then

493
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.719
then it's good, it's better we're
we're doing more. But actually, you

494
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:46.960
know, in that in that bigger
grand scheme of things, it's not about

495
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.920
you know, how many little things, how many goals we accomplish. It's

496
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:57.199
really whether or not it's in alignment
with our purpose. And so so people

497
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.559
tend to especially if they're not listening
to themselves, haven't developed those self awareness

498
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.840
or energy awareness skills, then we
overdo and we burn out. And then

499
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.880
if you look at the amount that
we're able to contribute over our lifetime,

500
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we push, push, and then
we burn out and then we're not contributing

501
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.880
very much after we've burned out.
So it's not really you know, the

502
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:22.639
best, the optimal outcome, and
so what are you know, what's really

503
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:28.719
going on there? It's this mindset
thing. And then what people often tend

504
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.320
to say is like, oh,
there's never enough time and I don't have

505
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:37.280
enough energy to do what I want. But I think that's not actually the

506
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.159
case, and I think people are
looking kind of in the wrong direction with

507
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:45.599
that. Does that make sense to
you? It does? In fact,

508
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.159
I want to this is the perfect
time to mention this. I literally just

509
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.199
freshly authored an article for my collaborator
and partner, Work Proud, for their

510
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.840
thought leadership site, and I what
I As I was digging around for what

511
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.280
did I want to comment on what's
going on right now that I want to

512
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:04.960
talk about? I discovered a couple
articles that said that fully fifty percent of

513
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.440
the North American workplace plans to change
jobs in twenty twenty one after the pandemic

514
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:13.920
because there's a lot of reasons for
that. They feel disconnected from their employer,

515
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.440
they feel like they're not being valued
and appreciated, and there's a restlessness

516
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:21.079
that's just palpable, among many other
things. But then when I dug deeper,

517
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.760
then I discovered this whole notion of
the great resignation is what it's being

518
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.440
called, and apparently it was predicted
by a professor this exact same thing would

519
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.760
happen, that a majority or a
lot of the population would go looking for

520
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.119
new jobs once the pandemic kind of
subsided, and so that absolutely speaks to

521
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.559
burnout. That was the number one
thing that was cited in these articles was

522
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.440
people are just burnt out, which
totally speaks to the notion of energy and

523
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.280
just what you were talking about.
So employers, companies, leaders, this

524
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.480
is really really critically important to pay
attention to to recognize if your people really

525
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:59.079
do feel this way. I want
you to think about the ramifications of fifty

526
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.679
percent of your people. Even in
a year's time. The recruiting cost alone

527
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.719
to replace those people is enormous.
Now you're going to train them, on

528
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.280
board them, bring them up to
speed, they will not be the same

529
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:13.960
low performance as those who vacant positions
before. So it's well worth doing something

530
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:17.480
now to help your people address this
mindset, this notion of burnout that that

531
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:21.039
Joyce is talking about. That's kind
of where my mind when as you were

532
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:25.320
talking. Sure, and so I
work with corporations on resilience, right,

533
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:30.239
because resilience and burnout like, the
more that you can help people develop skills

534
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:35.119
that will help them be more resilient, the less burnout there is. But

535
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.960
I wanted to talk You brought up
an interesting point, and I think that

536
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:43.920
people are again not necessarily assigning the
right causes and effects. So they've been

537
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.880
unhappy, especially during the pandemic situation, and they don't feel very good,

538
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.360
and they're saying they're thinking that,
oh, it's this job. If I

539
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.639
switch jobs, it'll all be okay. But I think that it's not necessarily

540
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.119
the job though, of course corporations
and situations do very I think it's more

541
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:05.960
this idea of thinking of this driving
and this more and more and more,

542
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.840
I've got to do more, or
I feel so much pressure to do more,

543
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.559
and then the burnout that's happening and
there's going if they keep the same

544
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.800
mindset, then they're going to go
ahead and take that to the next job

545
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.320
and they're going to experience the same
thing there. So I think it's worthwhile

546
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.239
to take a step back again and
look at some of the underlying causes and

547
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:30.079
what might be useful to help people
overcome these obstacles that they feel are preventing

548
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.920
them from having a happy, fulfilled, purposeful life. Yeah, and I

549
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:37.880
couldn't agree more. And that's one
of the reasons I want to bring this

550
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.199
up, is that that individuals within
the company can do this work for themselves.

551
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.880
And then of course let's meet in
the middle and get leaders and companies

552
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.159
to also ask how are you doing? What can I do to help?

553
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.760
And how are you feeling? Et
cetera. And one of the things that

554
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.000
you talk about, which I completely
agree with, is the role of how

555
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:58.519
stress could limits our perspective. And
then we've got this narrow tunnel vision,

556
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.360
So tell us more about how does
that factor in as an obstacle here?

557
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.880
Right? So stress does well,
you know, the neuroscience does say,

558
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.480
oh that when we're stressed out,
our vision, both our physical vision and

559
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.079
our our metaphorical vision just narrows.
And so we just are like cansters on

560
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.119
the world. We just start,
Okay, there's the goal. I've got

561
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:20.199
to make my deadline by Frida.
I've got to do this next thing and

562
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.480
the next thing, and this and
this next thing and the next thing.

563
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.159
And of course that stresses our system
out and we burn a lot of energy

564
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:31.079
that way that's not needed. And
so one there's that that issue of like,

565
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.639
ah, that's so wasteful for our
life force energy and how can we

566
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:42.199
how can we approach getting work done
without all that stress? And then the

567
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.840
other thing is that when we've had
this we let me have this narrow vision,

568
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.719
we're not connected with our purpose because
our purpose is this big vision,

569
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.920
and so it's hard. We just
get caught into the little details and we're

570
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:58.199
not seeing how it fits in with
the journey that we're wanting to make.

571
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.320
So I think that the that we
can do it's not just stress management for

572
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:07.119
health reasons. It's stress management for
quality of life and quality of the journey

573
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:14.559
towards our purpose reasons as well.
And back to Joyce's points about the importance

574
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.519
of self awareness. You can start
to recognize that you're probably governed by a

575
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.119
stress mindset when you start saying things
like I gotta, I have to,

576
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.880
and I can't, right, So
just pay attention how often those things come

577
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:29.199
out of your mouth, because they're
probably connected to something that you perceive is

578
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.360
stressful. So one of the other
things that you also do. I love

579
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.320
working with metaphors, and you have
an energy metaphor of using working capital versus

580
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:45.039
reserves. What's that right? So
the way a lot of the ancient traditions

581
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.199
who work with energy view it as
like, oh, there is what we

582
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.719
would call a working capital amount of
energy. This is the amount of energy

583
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.519
that we use in daily life,
you know, to do our tours,

584
00:40:55.559 --> 00:41:00.840
to do our work, et cetera. And we use it and then we

585
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.440
replenish it, and we replenish it
with the typical things that you would consider

586
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:09.000
self care like good sleep, good
food, exercise, et cetera. But

587
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:14.000
underneath that is this concept of they
don't use this terminology, but I think

588
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.559
we in modern society could understand it
or reserve capital, and that's the energy

589
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.719
that carries us through life, like
on that road, on that journey from

590
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.719
birth to death. It's that underlying
amount of energy that moves us forward and

591
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:32.360
helps us develop over time and mature. And so they're different things. And

592
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.599
when we're what we can expect to
do is as we live our daily life

593
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.639
and we use up energy. It's
not like we should just conserve and sit

594
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.119
still and use as little energy as
you know, as we as we can.

595
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.360
We want to expend energy and use
it to live and enjoy life.

596
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.440
But if we are not listening to
how much energy we're using, and we're

597
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.920
overdoing and we're burning the candle at
both and we're going to dip into our

598
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:02.440
reserves, into our savings account,
and if we use that reserve energy,

599
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.280
it's very hard to get that kind
of energy back. And so then what

600
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:13.840
happens is we end up with,
you know, a permanent burnout, like

601
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:20.079
we just can't move forward in our
life at all. And so differentiating between

602
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:28.320
when we're just using our working capital
energy versus when we're using our reserve energy

603
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.480
is really important. And I don't
think that most people actually consider that or

604
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:37.320
can sense that. I would agree. Now, I'm really curious too,

605
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.239
because I noted that when you were
talking before that I think you also attach

606
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.800
that to the wisdom tradition of the
path of addition and path of subtraction.

607
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.559
I've never heard this language before.
Tell us more about that, right,

608
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.440
So this also ties in with the
idea of more is better. Right.

609
00:42:53.519 --> 00:43:00.519
So, the path of addition says
that if we want to move forward towards

610
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:06.880
something like our purpose or even a
goal, many times there is an approach

611
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.159
that says, oh, do more, gain more skills, get more accomplishments,

612
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.519
have more experiences, more and more
and more and more. So it's

613
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.719
the path of addition. What can
I do that's gonna help me go forward?

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Right? And then but then there's
another path, which is called the

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path of subtraction, and the path
of subtraction which actually speaks to something you

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mentioned earlier. I'm just together myself
go for it, which is, what

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can you what can we take away
that's a hindrance, What can we take

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away that's not necessary and that's actually
consuming energy that we could better use to

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move smoothly and easily along the path. And you know it's it's it's not

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as familiar a concept to think,
Okay, path of addition, path of

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subscription, subtraction. I think we
tend, most of us tend to focus

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more on the path of addition,
and we don't give nearly as much priority

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or importance to considering the path of
traction. And it's important that we do

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both. Yeah, as we were
saying before, you either we've got this

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amount of energy and yes we can
still get it and such, but better

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to really be choiceful about where to
really put our energy in or a time

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and is that really worth our time? Is it really going to allow us

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to be able to express our highest
possible purpose and serve at our best highest

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level. And it's amazing to me
how much let's call it busy work that

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really gets done, that takes up
so much energy, right that we really

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don't have to do and someone else
would gladly do that for us. That's

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right, and it's also encouraged at
work by sort of the norms that the

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idea of FaceTime. Right, you
know, it's not really satisfying work,

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but you have to look busier,
you have to stay till ten at night

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to look like you're worthy of promotion
or something like that. And when we

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actually tune into ourselves and we have
this real deep sense of what's right for

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us and what are we here to
do? It's not here to be doing

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some of these other things that aren't
part of our purpose. They may be

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part of other people's purpose, which
is great, let them do it.

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What really is important to us?
And how can we stay on track and

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on purpose? Yeah, So as
a quick example, listeners and viewers,

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I was having a conversation with a
gentleman yesterday and we were talking about some

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way maybe trying to find a way
to collaborate turn our two companies, and

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I need sure everybody was up to
and I said, that's fantastic, beautiful

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great creation doesn't align with us,
but so thank you very much. I'm

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happy to refer to you if it
makes sense, But it just doesn't make

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any sense for us. To put
any energy into that because it's not aligned,

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it doesn't thread through our purpose.
So that kind of ability to recognize

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and say thanks but no thanks,
it works. So you already heard me

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say Joyce sorry, and we're getting
so close to being out of time already.

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It's amazing you already heard me say
that my approach to stoking energy is

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through the logo therapeutic lens of trying
to find more mean and getting more access

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to it. Maybe in a minute
or so, can you give a couple

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of approaches that you you offer to
people to stoke energy or to manage energy?

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Sure? I think one of well, purpose, As you said,

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like purpose really does. It helps
us. It helps our brain because it

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research shows that when we feel like
we're on purpose, we have much more

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cognitive resilience, and so that's really
important. That gives us more energy to

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be able to be clear and creative
and move forward on our goals as well

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as our purpose. And then also
when we're on purpose, we you know,

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we don't have as much cortisol,
so that stress that drains us also

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drops a way as well, and
so that is a great way to gain

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purpose. So it's sort of this
loop that happens that oh, if we're

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if we're on purpose, we get
more energy. And when we have more

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energy, we can be more on
purpose. So I think that those are

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really important things to help generate energy. And then of course many people have

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heard that the positive emotions like focusing
on gratitude is an amazing and really quick

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way to generate a lot of energy. So there's a lot of these different,

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easy, simple approaches, but maybe
people haven't put it together to say,

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oh, if I do this practice, it will help me fuel my

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purpose. They might say, oh, it feels good, but now it's

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more than that, it will actually
be a contribute to your leading a more

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meaningful and satisfying life. Beautiful.
Well, here we are at the clothes

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and you know that the shows listen
to people across the world and they generally

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tune it because they're out to be
able to elevate their own connection to meeting

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and purpose, or they want to
help create cultures where people feel enlivened.

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They want to do their work at
their highest level, or become inspiration leaders

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themselves and do business that betters the
world. What would you like to lead

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our listeners with today? Yes,
So I think that this idea of the

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sustainable, sustainable change leading to growth
is super important. And if we want

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that, then we need to take
a moment to reflect on what's gone before

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and put it in the context of
a process or a journey so that we

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can go ahead and build on that
foundation and move forward. And then to

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think about purpose. Is that bigger
than a goal, that north star that

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will guide us throughout our life and
guide our decisions and actions. And then

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the other last couple of things are
self awareness is key. You can't go

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wrong by developing your own self awareness
and your own beginning to understand energy system.

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So the self awareness of our parts, including our energy system is super

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useful for purpose driven and conscious leaders. And then just checking in on that.

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Don't underestimate the amount of energy that
we need to be successful with our

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purpose, So foster that, nourish
that every and that will help you going

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forward. Choice. What a beautiful
contribution for our listeners of yours. Thank

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you so let for being my guest
and working on purpose my pleasure. Thank

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you for having me absolutely listeners of
yours. If you want to learn more

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about Joyce Tom and the work she
does at Energy at Work, just go

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to Energy at work dot co and
thanks again to our partnering sponsor work Proud,

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which helps companies build a platform where
your workforce receives meaningful feedback and thanks

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for their work from people across your
company. Last week, if you missed

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the live show, you can always
catch it be a recorded podcast. Were

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on the air with Jared Pope,
the CEO of Workshield, talking about the

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current workplace issues facing many companies,
some of the various ways harassment takes place

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which will likely surprise you, and
what companies can do to create a safe

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culture that reduces harassment and discrimination.
Next week, we'll be on the air

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with doctor Arthur Ceer mccoley, a
third time guest, this time talking about

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his latest book, America Reunited,
a relational solution to bridging the political,

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social, and personal chasm dividing our
nation. See you there. Remember that

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work is at least a third of
our life, so let's work on purpose.

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We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to tune in to

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Working on Purpose featuring your host,
Doctor or Elie Cortes, each week on

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the Voice America Empowerment Channel. Together, we'll create a world where business operates

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conscientiously. Leadership inspires impassioned performance,
and employees are fulfilled in work that provides

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the meaning and purpose. They crave
see you there. Let's work on purpose.