Cultivating Essential Energy for Thriving in Life

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be

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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want

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Working on Purpose now. Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortez. Welcome

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back to the Working on Purpose program. Thanks for tuning in again this week.

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I'm your host, doctor Elis Cortez, joining you live from Dallas,

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Texas, which is home based for
me. If you don't know me yet,

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management consultants specialize in meaning and purpose, organizational logotherapist, inspirational speaker,

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social scientist, and author. You
can learn more about me and how we

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can work together at at least Cortez
dot com or Gusto Dashnow dot com.

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With us today is Joyce tom As
speaker, executive coach, and catalyst for

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change in the fields of resilience,
wellness and conscious leadership in Silicon Valley.

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She has led business and product innovations
at Intuit, eBay, SRI International,

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and was CEO of a database infrastructure
startup. After seeing the impacts of stress

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and high pressure environments, she found
an energy at work in two thousand and

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two to help executives and entrepreneurs accelerate
their growth while by bringing more balance and

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satisfaction to their lives. We'll be
talking about the mindsets that are necessary toward

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purposeful living and working in their relationship
to purpose, tools for their journey and

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overcoming obstacles. She dodges today from
the San Francisco area. Joyce, Welcome

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to Working on Purpose. Hi,
Alice, thank you for the opportunity to

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be here with you and your audience
today. It is so great. And

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you know, when we first were
introduced, I was like, oh my

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gosh, for our two peeves in
a pod, we're so like minded.

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So but you, of course,
you know, like every single one of

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us on the planet, you have
your own very unique niche and view on

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the matter that we're going to talk
about today. And so I think first

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we have to talk a little bit
about, as I introduced you, just

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where this work came from. So
you spent what twenty some years in the

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Silicon Valley area and learned a few
things along the way that pointed you to

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this work. So situate for us, why this work? Why now?

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Sure? Well, I had a
background in the corporate arena and my focus

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was on help to facilitate change in
organizations and that was great. And as

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I saw those changes evolved, I
saw the toll that it took on people

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and organizations and personally, I was
doing a lot of other work on myself,

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with meditation, with somatic practices,
with emotional intelligence work, and I

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thought, well, how can I
be of the most service. So after

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a career in Silicon Valley, I
just said I'm going to step away and

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start to offer other things that that
might be helpful to all the people who

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are involved in innovation and technology and
growth to help to help make it easier

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for them, because I think that
there's so many people who are inspired to

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make contributions in the world, and
when they meet the challenges that inevitably happen,

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they want to be able to move
along their journey easier, in a

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more easy way and a more fluid
way, and a more fulfilling way.

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And so that's what I decided to
do it with Energy at Work, was

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to help people in that in their
endeavors. That's so great. And you

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know, as we spoke about before
when we were first getting acquainted on the

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phone, I've just really come to
see. My perspective is that everything is

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energy, and so it's just really
how do we mobilize that energy, how

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do we use it most productively and
certainly as we care about toward our purpose.

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And so for this first segment,
I know we wanted to focus on

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journey and destination mindsets and their relationship
to purpose, and so maybe we could

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start You gave me an article.
I read most of it, by the

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way, but not all the people, but most of it and about the

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Stanford's research, And so I wanted
to first start with how to Stanford's research

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help us refine our strategy for working
on purpose? Your perspective on that,

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sure, let me step back and
give a little bit of context for that,

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and that is that people are often
interested in change, and change is

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great, but it's about when that
change becomes sustainable, when it's lasting,

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and then that change turns to meaningful
growth for people in organizations. And that's

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one of my main interests. And
so what Stanford did was it looked at

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different things that happened with people when
they accomplished goals, and they found out

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that people often when they accomplished goals, they pause, they pat themselves on

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the back, and then they may
or may not. They may turn their

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attention to something else and not continue
that progress. In fact, they may

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backslide. And so before we get
into their exact research, I want to

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just bring up this analogy of a
sprint in a marathon. So you know,

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in today's society and in business,
success is often linked to short term

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metrics that encourage us to go full
out. You know, they're always saying,

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oh, you know one hundred and
twenty percent, one hundred and twenty

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percent. And I know that when
I was starting out in the corporate world

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way back went as a strategic management
consultant, I was definitely on that path

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of like, okay, we have
a client engagement, and I've they've got

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offices in London and Tokyo and the
US, and so I would just be

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working around the clock. If back
often I would find myself sleeping on the

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floor in the office because there weren't
even laptops, that's how a long ago

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it was. And so to get
access to your data, you actually had

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to stay in the office to be
able to access your big computer. And

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that's not really a sustainable kind of
thing, right, it really isn't.

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It's not very good for us,
and it's not good for our work,

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and it's not good for the teams. And I likened that to the Sprint

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mentality, where you've got this deadline, Okay, I'm just gonna for a

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couple of months, We're just gonna
really crank it out, and then what

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happens at the end, You kind
of collapse and you backslide, right,

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You're just burnt out and it doesn't
work. And so then we often graduate

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along our career to the idea of
a marathon. So then I moved out

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to Silicon Valley and the product cycles
were different. It wasn't a couple of

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months. It was like a yearly
product launch at that point before the internet

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was really big, so it was
a yearly product product lawn cycle. So

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you paced yourself a little bit more
like marathon, and you did do some

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more self care, but at the
end it sort of turned into a sprint,

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and then you ended up again at
the end being a little bit where

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a lot burned out and needing a
fair amount of time to recover, and

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you didn't necessarily have the energy to
then begin to grow and develop what you

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wanted to do it professionally or personally. And so we've got both of the

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sprint and the marathon analogies are very
goal oriented, like get to this point,

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reach your goal, and that's it. And there's a whole another paradigm

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for looking at life, which is
a journey mindset, and that's what Stanford

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Research started to look into. They
said, okay, well, we know

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that what happens when people have this
goal or destination mindset, then they stop,

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they have to and they backslide,
and so there's not sustain growth and

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what can what would be what would
make it different? So they decided to

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test something out. And what they
did was they took a number of different

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research studies where people were in programs
with specific goals like a weight loss program

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or a fitness program, or even
an executive training program. And at the

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end of the program, after people
had done what they needed to do,

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they asked all of the participants to
reflect on what had happened in the program,

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and they gave different prompts. Some
people were asked to reflect on it

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as a journey, and some people
were asked to reflect on it as a

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destination, and some people were given
no prompts at all. And they wanted

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to see what happened in terms of
people's learning and growth and the benefits.

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Did the benefits sustain and then were
their future actions in alignment with the goals

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that they wanted to continue their their
purpose and so on, And so that

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the net result of that is that
when the people who were invited to reflect

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on the program as a journey,
we're able to continue their progress. So,

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for example, if you have been
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your goals. After the program ended, you continue to exercise and you continue

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to make choices that were in alignment
with good health and fitness instead of slacking

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off. For example, like with
with diet programs, I'm sure many people

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can relate to it. You get
on the diet, you hold to it,

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you know, you gut it out, you meet your goals, you

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dropped the way, but then when
it's done after a while, you backslide.

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But in this case, the people
who are just asked to reflect on

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it as if it were a journey, didn't. They stayed on it,

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They continued to progress and with their
weight loss goals, and they continue to

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make decisions that were in alignment.
So no no cheating and binging on the

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chocolate afterwards. So that was really
interesting, you know, finding that the

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Stanford folks had which was, Hey, if you reflect on your whatever your

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experiences were, and you look at
it as a process instead of an event

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instead of a goal, you will
actually be able to grow. M Okay.

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So I did read that. A
couple of things that I really appreciate

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about that research. One I love
research, and two I actually really appreciated

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that the authors or and and the
researchers looked at various kinds of growth related

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activities, and I thought that was
that was actually stillar and that they were

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able to find that similar threat.
So then of course we have to ask

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for purpose of this conversation, how
does that relate to the strategy for working

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on purpose? Right? So,
I think one of the main problems that

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people encounter with why they're not able
to move forward with their purpose is that

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they're confusing purpose, purpose and goals. And you know, I think that

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actually, well, I'm sorry,
what were you going to say? No,

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I completely agree with you. People
confuse p percent goals all the time.

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They also confuse meaning and purpose.
They're also not the same, right,

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And I think that purpose is a
much bigger thing and a much higher

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thing than a goal. A purpose
is something that, in my perspective,

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you can't actually ever achieve. You
can just continue to work towards it.

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It's not something that you know,
want and done done with that purpose,

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and so it's got this other quality
to it that's more like a north star.

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So the north star is big,
it's bright, and wherever we're at

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we can see the north star and
we can head towards it. And the

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exact route doesn't exactly matter as long
as we continue to head towards that direction,

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and so it can illuminate and guide
us in our actions and our decisions,

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right and listeners and viewers, and
how you might now situate goals since

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we said that they were not the
same as purpose. As imagine, like

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I'm looking right now in a list
of eight goals that I have on my

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list to get done here in twenty
twenty one, all of which are directed

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by and feed into the fulfillment of
my purpose. So I can have like

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almost whatever and maybe unlimited number of
goals that might support what it is for

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me to live my purpose and be
an expression of my purpose, but they're

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not my purpose. That's how I
would distinguish that exactly exactly. And I

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think what what's kind of interesting is
that the Eastern Wisden traditions, which I'm

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very interested in, really take this
approach of a purpose which is linked to

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destiny ends on as a as a
birth to death kind of journey. So

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that's the language that they use,
that that it's a lifelong journey. It's

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not just you know, episodic here
and there, let's just finish this goal.

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It really has this long quality.
And when you when you when you

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step back and you look at purpose
as this lifelong thing, then you really

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do it changes your life and different
way. Oh my gosh, Joyce,

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you know I love this im That's
how I see it for me, right,

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I do have some I am touched
a little bit by more of the

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Eastern wisdom traditions, not entirely just
the Western, just because of my travel

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and what I'm interested in. And
I'll tell you. For that anthology of

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women, I found twenty five women
from across the globe to share their stories

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of how they discovered their purpose and
are now persevering mindily to live it.

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And the way that I set up
the questions, unbeknownst at the time,

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sort of invited them to look at
it more as a journey. And so

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a lot of us told our story, the ongoing unfoldment of how it was

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to become. It didn't just make
sense in a moment. It wasn't just

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revealed to us in a moment said
here, it is what we're supposed to

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be doing. But over the course
of your life you could see how it

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unfolded, and when you look at
it that way, and you see that

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it's continuing to unfold. We're still
on that journey. We're still on that

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path. And then it's then it's
exciting to say, well, where else

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is it going to go? Where
else is it going to take me?

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It's already really good. Now that's
so beautiful. Know what a wonderful experience

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for the folks who are there,
and and I'm sure it changed their lives,

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many of them who contributed so that
that the experience of writing their lives

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stories was cathartic. And by the
way, listen, listeners and viewers,

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I am now now launching the Men's
Anthology. So now we've collected the twenty

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five women, I'm out trolling the
globe for men who have discovered their purpose

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and I want to share their story
in this next anthology. So please do

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contact me at a least cortest dot
com and let me know if you want

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you want to talk about it and
be considered, because it's the next thing

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that I'm doing. It's so exciting, so fun. So say more about

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this, this this Taoist view of
destiny purpose and how do you did you

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learn about that? What do you
what do you? Where does it speak

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to you. Yes, well,
it's it's it's both like it's Eastern,

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not always, but this idea of
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that that we trod throughout our life, and the important thing to do is

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to be able to see are we
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you know, zigzagging away and losing
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How do we know what whether we're
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will shift a little bit. And
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approaches to life for forty fifty years
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it provides such guidance and reassurance and
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don't have to get every little detail
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picture of the journey over life.
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that's good. It's fantastic. Oh, this is just a yummy conversation.

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I guess is Joyce Tom founder of
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coach, and catalyst for change in
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leadership. Towns Today from the San
Francisco Bay Area. I'm your host,

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doctor Elis Cortez. So for this
next segment here, I'm really interested in

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this notion of yours, of tools
for the journey. And I know you

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and I probably both get a very
similar question and people want to know,

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you know, how do I find
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was just speaking to a group of
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and I asked that question, how
many of you think you know your purpose?

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And there were probably two hundred and
fifty people in the in the audience.

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I guess how many hands went up? Oh ready, one? Oh,

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my goodness. And I understand,
you know, I totally understand.

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to start to answer that question and
some tools along the way. Sure,

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well, you know, I know
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their purpose. And in some of
the research that I've seen, only twenty

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percent of people really feel certain that
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as ninety one percent of people at
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their purpose at all. So it
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for people. And one of the
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start trying to just figure it out
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to step back and just work on
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awareness on all levels I mean intellectually, emotionally, physically, etc. Because

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without self awareness, how can we
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it seems to me to be the
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ideas about purpose, but is it
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we know that unless we know ourselves? M H. I have found that

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there is such a desperate hunger for
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people just kind of declare one and
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they stand for or what they're kind
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really not their purpose. And I
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comes from. And then they want
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more juice to it, has more
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at the end of the day,
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this notion that you talk about self
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GPS system tell us more about that. Well, So, if if we're

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using this metaphor of a journey,
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to go towards in the direction of
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with our GPS system that has to
know where we're starting from. Right,

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If we don't know where we're starting
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work very well. And how do
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have to begin that self inquiry of
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me today? And like you just
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and they declare it a purpose,
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emotion and then they use that to
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in corporate, you know, taking
care of our whole self. They're not.

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It's not taking our whole self into
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little bit hard, or the path
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got the head saying I should do
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but the heart says no, but
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You're going at cross purposes and the
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It's it's not very efficient and it's
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of satisfaction or fulfillment. Well,
and this is where I think you were

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gets really really interesting to me because
you distinguish this notion of the energy fuel

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gauge and as being useful to understanding
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And I'll quickly say that I know
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own journey of purpose and living it
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the closer I get to it,
the more crazy intense my energy is.

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It's like, oh my gosh,
where did that come from? Tell us

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more about this energy gauge. Well, let's just it's again using this metaphor

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of this journey. So if if
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is like our physical body, and
we want to check in to see how

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much energy we have. How much
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tank? Right? And I think
most people, I mean sometimes people go,

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oh energy, it's too woo woo. Right. Don't know that.

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I don't know anything about energy.
But if somebody said to you, m

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think of your think of how you
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you you were checking in on your
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are you on empty, are you
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know along the spectrum one quarter,
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do you have in your fuel tank? And that's irrelevant because if you don't

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have a lot of fuel, how
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you're not going to get very far
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true. And so then that's where
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you have some ways to build some
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reasons, one of the reasons that
I am a logotherapist, which is really

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the whole practice of generating or i
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see meaning in the moment, is
because meaning is our, from my vantage

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point, our ultimate energy source.
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find meaning in the moment and across
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have, and especially when you align
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some some tools to be able to
help build some of these skills or some

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approaches. Can you tell us about
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mean, it's going to sound simple, but the thing is mostly the hardest

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part about it is remembering to do
it. So I'll just say that,

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and that is just a simple check
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which says at the beginning of the
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or before you know an important event, it's just to check in with

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ourselves and say, huh, how
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clear? Is it foggy, is
it racing? Is it settled? How

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much energy is zipping around in our
mind? And then tuning in then to

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our emotional center and listening because we
know also that emotions are a huge motivator

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for us, right, I mean, there's a lot that we can do

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when our emotions are in alignment with
what with our purpose for example, And

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so what's our emotional state? Are
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not going to help us on our
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of excitement and curiosity and gratitude for
what's opening up in front of us?

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even feel like, oh wow, yeah,

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I'm in a grateful space. If
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then I've got enough energy to you
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accomplish quite a lot in the world. And then you know, the third

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the other level is our physical body. How is our physical body responding?

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Like sometimes we have a lot of
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really important to us, but we've
we don't have the physical energy to do

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it. And if we ignore that
and we you know, nobody would run

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their car on empty, right,
we know that that's a bad thing.

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It clogs up the fuel lines and
then there's a lot of maintenance problems and

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then you've got a big, you
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energy that we've got, and we
just say, oh no, I'm going

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to get through it because it's important
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some energy from doing things that we
love, it's again stepping back and seeing

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that big picture like that. The
Eastern approach is you've got a certain amount

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of energy to go through your life, and if you if you're burning it

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up too quickly, or if you're
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you're just not going to have enough
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to go. So it's really worthwhile
to ask those basic questions, how am

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I doing, what do I need
so, and listen to the answer.

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answer and then act based on what
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to add to that beautiful set of
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I had doctor Naha sang On on
my show last May. I think it

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was. She's phenomenal. She's become
a friend as well and a colleague.

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But she has a whole book out
called Talk Our X and she really disting

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wishes that emotions are energy and motion, So you have to steward them through

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your body in order to really make
them work with you, and you most

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certainly cannot ignore them. They will
not be ignored, right, And so

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with the more the better that you
get it really first understanding those emotions,

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naming them, understanding them, honoring
them, and stewarding them through your person.

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The more that you can you can
you can utilize that energy and even

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literally channel it through you for a
very productive end. So that's the first

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thing I would say, anything you
want to comment on that before I go

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to my second point. Yes,
exactly, I'd like to take it to

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the workplace situation. Because our our
head, our heart, and our our

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body are are like teammates, right, and so if you were going into

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a group meeting and saying, oh, we've got this, this, this

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this purpose, you know, our
mission, our vision. What do you

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guys think about that? Or how
are you feeling about that? And there

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were concerns, there were fears,
there was excitement, There's a whole bunch

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of different reactions to it. As
a good conscious leader, you would want

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to listen to all that was going
on and then be able to help harmonize

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the team, help, you know, get everybody together to move towards the

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same in the same direction. You
wouldn't ignore somebody, or you wouldn't say,

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oh, yeah, I know you're
afraid of that, too bad,

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we're doing this anyway. You know, that's not great leadership skills. So

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we are like our awareness, our
consciousness is the leader of our whole being,

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and it's really useful for us to
go ahead and take all that into

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consideration so that we can be we
can move forward. M that's beautiful.

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I love that idea of that they're
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that. Yeah, and then you
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I love that. Okay. So
the second point that I wanted to make

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is and you you talk about how
we haven't there we have this energy and

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generally speaking, we need we need
to manage it and deal with what we

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have. We can increase it through
exercise and other things like that, and

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being high on purpose, of course. But what I want to make sure

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that I also emphasize is that's really
important. And this gets much clearer when

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you to your point, really work
from the purpose as a north star guiding

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point, and you can recognize,
you know, you can start more easily

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see what fits within that purview of
my purpose. And a lot of us

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spend a lot of time and effort
and energy on activities that actually don't help

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us fulfill our purpose, and someone
else can do them very handily, thank

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you very much. And when you
clear them off your plate and your path,

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you have this much bigger runway and
all this extra energy to throw yourself

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toward that north star of purpose.
And so it can't tell you how important

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it is to really evaluate how you're
spending your energy, where is it going,

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taking inventory of that, and then
clearing out where it really isn't serving

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you very well? Do you really
have to be the one that does all

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the dishes, changes the oil in
your car, does all the laundry,

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does all this extra stuff on your
project, and your team really do you

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have to do all that? So
that's the kind of thing I really want

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to encourage you to evaluate, because
once you start to get clear about what's

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pulling away, the energy is pulling
away from your purpose, you'll have more

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bandwidth energy to devote to your purpose. Comments Joyce. Excellent point. I

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think that we often think that we
have to do it all and that's not

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necessarily it's not true, and it
doesn't actually help further on the contributions that

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we could make in the world.
Yeah, Yeah, a wonderful point.

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I agree, and I encourage I
also encourage people to take that into consideration

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and see what changes might be helpful
for people to make in their lives.

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You'd be amazed how you can really
quickly get over doing some of these things

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that you spend a lot of time
doing, move on to the next higher

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level order of things. And to
that end, I definitely wanted to talk

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with you. I know you have
you and I share this notion here about

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ongoing self awareness because our purpose will
evolve as we grow. Say more about

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why that's important to keep track of
and stewart Yes, because I think once

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people this idea of purpose is and
finding purpose is such a big deal to

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people that once they find something that
they want to latch on too, then

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they just kind of keep going towards
that same you know, that same purpose,

431
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that same north star for their whole
lives. But as we continue to

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grow and evolve, it's natural,
it's a it's not maybe surprising to think

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that what's important to us and therefore
what our purposes will change as well.

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And so this idea of chickens along
the way regular chickens to say, oh,

435
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is this purpose that has been a
wonderful guiding star for me for five,

436
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ten, fifteen years? Is it
still the right one for me?

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Or do I need to update it
and revise it and then shift navigate towards

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the new north star for us?
And I think some people they at some

439
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point in the life they decide this
is what I'm about, and then they

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just keep chugging along in that direction
for the rest of their life, and

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then there's this divergence from who they
are, who they are at the current

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time, and where they're heading.
So I think it's useful for people to

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do that chicken and regularly see whether
or not their their nurser has changed a

444
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little bit. Well, And what
I also tell your listeners and viewers is

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as you step on your path to
purpose and really listen into that that gentle

446
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whisper that's trying to get your attention
and tell you which step to take next

447
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along that path. As you serve
it, you really will continue to grow

448
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and expand in there. That means
your eyes and your ability to see things

449
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will change. And since things will
change, it will it will evolve,

450
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and therefore you you'll see things newly
that you didn't see before as opportunities and

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ways to serve. And then,
of course, don't forget the world will

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continue to change along with you,
also then serving up new opportunities and ways

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of being in the world. So
yeah, keeping a really close tab on

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you and how your you and your
purpose are connected and relating to the world

455
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and serving the world is of critical
importance. And by the way, it's

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fun. It's not just you know
something you have to do. It's a

457
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fun thing to track and go let
this thing carry you along the way.

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Absolutely, isn't this fun? All
right? Well, let's grab our last

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here. I'm Elise Cortez, your
host. We were on here with Joyce

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tom a speaker executive coach and catalyst
for change in the fields of resilience,

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wellness and conscious leadership. We've been
talking about the tools for our journey of

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purpose. After the break, we're
going to get more into overcoming obstacles to

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the journey. Stay with us,
We'll be right back. Doctor Release Cortez

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is a management consultant specializing in meaning
and purpose and inspirational speaker and author.

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She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose
among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership and

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meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment,
performance, and commitment within the workforce.

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To learn more or to invite a
Lease to speak to your organization, please

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00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:45.039
visit her at a lease Cortez dot
com. Let's talk about how to get

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your employees working on purpose. This
is working on Purpose with doctor Relise Cortez.

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To reach our program today or open
a conversation with Elise, send an

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email to Elise ali Se at Elise
Cortez dot com. Now back to working

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on Purpose. Thanks for staying with
us, and welcome back to working on

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Purpose. I mentioned after the first
break about the Grab yourugusta welbing podcast learning

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series. The content of this program
is adapted from part one of my recently

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published book called Purpose Ignited, How
Inspiring Leaders ignite passion and Elevate Cause,

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which is now available on Amazon.
I wrote it to awaken us to their

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passion and purpose and help transform them
into inspirational leaders who enliven the workplace and

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elevate the contribution of business to all
at stakeholders. So that's where the content

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came from. If you're just joining
us, My guest today is from the

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San Francisco Bay Area, Joyce Tom
the founder of Energy at Work and speaker,

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executive coach, and cantalyst for change. I'm your host, doctor Elis

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FORRTEZ. So for this last segment
here, this is a great, right,

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great, because you know people are
going well but yeah, but this

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sounds good, But but you know
along the way, what am I going

485
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.480
to What am I going to find? And I love your concept that you

486
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talk from this notion that we tend
to believe that more is better and then

487
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we keep pushing until burnout happens,
which is certainly something that's happened for a

488
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lot of us in the pandemic,
especially if we have a goal versus journey

489
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:21.840
mindset. So tell us more about
that, and why do we tend to

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do that. It's not all about
well, I think it's it's natural,

491
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.800
especially in this time and age and
culture, that we think, oh,

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you know, especially if we're conflating
a goal mindset with purpose, then the

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more goals we we have and the
more we accomplish them and we just tick

494
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them off, you know, like
pokemon, you know, things, then

495
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.880
then it's good, it's better we're
doing more. But actually, you know,

496
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.559
in the in that bigger grand scheme
of things, it's not about you

497
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.119
know, how many little things,
how many goals we accomplish. It's really

498
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:57.440
whether or not it's in alignment with
our purpose. And so so people tend

499
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to, especially if they're not listening
to themselves, haven't developed those self awareness

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or energy awareness skills. Then we
overdo and we burn out. And then

501
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.880
if you look at the amount that
we're able to contribute over our lifetime,

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we push, push, push,
and then we burn out and then we're

503
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.920
not contributing very much after we've burned
out. So it's not really you know,

504
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:22.320
the best, the optimal outcome,
and so what are you know,

505
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what's really going on there? It's
this mindset thing and then what people often

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00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.199
tend to say is like, oh, there's never enough time and I don't

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00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.440
have enough energy to do what I
want. But I think that's not actually

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the case. That I think people
are looking kind of in the wrong direction

509
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.280
with that. Does that make sense
to you? It does? In fact,

510
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I want to. I want to. This is a perfect time to

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mention this. I literally just freshly
authored an article for my collaborator and partner,

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We're Proud for their Thought Leadership site, and I what I As I

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was digging around for what did I
want to comment on what's going on right

514
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.119
now that I want to talk about? I discovered a couple of articles that

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said that fully fifty percent of the
North American workplace plans to change jobs in

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twenty twenty one after the pandemic because
there's a lot of reasons for that.

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They feel disconnected from their employer,
they feel like they're not being valued and

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00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.079
appreciate it, and there's a restlessness
that's just palpable, among many other things.

519
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.639
But then when I dug deeper,
then I discovered this whole notion of

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the great resignation is what it's being
called, and apparently it was predicted by

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a professor that would that this exact
same thing would happen, that a majority

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00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.920
or a lot of the population would
go looking for new jobs once the pandemic

523
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.719
kind of subsided, And so that
absolutely speaks to burn out. That was

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00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:45.119
the number one thing that was cited
in these articles was people are just burnt

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00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.039
out, which totally speaks to the
notion of energy and just what you were

526
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.159
talking about. So, employers,
companies, leaders, this is really really

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00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.000
critically important to pay attention to to
recognize if your people really do feel this

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way. I want you to think
about the ramifications of fifty percent of your

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people evening in a year's time.
The recruiting cost alone to replace those people

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is enormous. Now you're going to
train them on board them, bring them

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up to speed, they will not
be the same little performance as those who

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vacate positions before. So it's well
worth doing something now to help your people

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00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.679
address this mindset, this notion of
burnout that Joyce is talking about. That's

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00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.960
kind of where my mind went as
you were talking. Sure, and so

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I work with corporations on resilience,
right, because resilience and burnout, like

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00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.079
the more that you can help people
develop skills that will help them be more

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00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:36.360
resilient, the less burnout there is. But I wanted to talk You brought

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00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.480
up an interesting point, and I
think that people are again not necessarily assigning

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00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:45.639
the right causes and effects. So
they've been unhappy, especially during the pandemic

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00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.639
situation, and they don't feel very
good, and they're saying they're thinking that,

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oh, it's this job. If
I switch jobs, it'll all be

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00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:58.760
okay. But I think that it's
not necessarily the job though of course corporations

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00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.960
and situations do very I think it's
more of this idea of thinking of this

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00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.719
driving and this more and more and
more, I've got to do more,

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or I feel so much pressure to
do more, and then the burnout that's

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happening and that there's going If they
keep the same mindset, then they're going

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to go ahead and take that to
the next job and they're going to experience

548
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:21.079
the same thing there. So I
think it's worthwhile to take a step back

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again and look at some of the
underlying causes and what might be useful to

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help people overcome these obstacles that they
that they feel are preventing them from having

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a happy, fulfilled, purposeful life. Yeah, and I couldn't agree more.

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And that's one of the reasons I
want to bring this up is that

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that individuals within the company can do
this work for themselves. And then of

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00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.679
course let's meet in the middle and
get leaders and companies to also ask how

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are you doing? What can I
do to help, and how are you

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feeling, et cetera. And one
of the things that you talk about,

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which I completely agree with, is
the role of how stress could limits our

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perspective. And then we've got this
narrow tunnel vision, So tell us more

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about how does that factor in as
an obstacle here? Right? So stress

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does where you know, the neuroscience
does say, oh that when we're stressed

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00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:13.960
out, our vision, both our
physical vision and our metaphorical vision just narrows.

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And so we just are like camsters
on the world. We just start,

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Okay, there's the goal. I've
got to make my deadline by Friday.

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I've got to do this next thing
and the next thing, and this

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this next thing and the next thing. And of course that stresses our system

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out and we burn a lot of
energy that way that's not needed. And

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so when there's that issue of like, oh, that's so wasteful for our

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life force, energy, and how
can we how can we approach getting work

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done without all that stress? And
then the other thing is that when we've

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had this, we alonely have this
narrow vision. We're not connected with our

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purpose because our purpose is this big
vision and so it's hard. We just

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00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.599
get caught into the little details and
we're not seeing how it fits in with

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the journey that we're wanting to make. So I think that thing that we

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can do it's not just stress management
for health reasons. It's stress management for

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quality of life and quality of the
journey towards our purpose reasons as well.

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And back to Joyce's points about the
importance of self awareness, you can start

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to recognize that you're probably governed by
a stress mindset when you start saying things

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like I gotta, I have to
and I can't, right, So just

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00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:27.159
pay attention how often those things come
out of your mouth, because they're probably

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connected to something that you perceive is
stressful. So one of the other things

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that you also do, I'd love
working with metaphors, and you have an

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energy metaphor of using working capital versus
reserves. What's that right? So the

583
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way a lot of the ancient traditions
who work with energy view it is like,

584
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:52.199
oh, there is is what we
would call a working capital amount of

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energy. This is the amount of
energy that we use in daily life,

586
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you know, to do our tours, to do our work, et cetera.

587
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And we use it and then we
replenish it, and we replenish it

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with the typical things that you would
consider self care like good sleep, good

589
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.519
food, exercise, et cetera.
But underneath that is this concept of they

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00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.920
don't use this terminology, but I
think we in modern society could understand it

591
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:20.840
or reserve capital. And that's the
energy that carries us through life, like

592
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on that road, on that journey
from birth to death. It's that underlying

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00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:29.840
amount of energy that moves us forward
and helps us develop over time and mature.

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And so so there are different things
and when we're what we can expect

595
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to do is as we live our
daily life and we use of energy.

596
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.960
It's not like we should just conserve
and sit still and use as little energy

597
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.480
as you know, as as as
as we can. We want to expend

598
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:51.760
energy and use it to live and
enjoy life. But if we are not

599
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.719
listening to how much energy we're using
and we're overdoing, and we're burning the

600
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.119
candle at both ends, we're going
to dip into our reserves, into our

601
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:05.000
savings account. And if we use
that reserve energy, it's very hard to

602
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.719
that kind to get that kind of
energy back. And so then what happens

603
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:13.920
is we end up with, you
know, a permanent burnout, like we

604
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:20.719
just can't move forward in our life
at all. And so differentiating between when

605
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:28.199
we're just using our our working capital
energy versus when we're using our reserve energy

606
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.440
is really important. And I don't
think that most people actually consider that or

607
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.400
can sense that. I would agree. Now, I'm really curious too,

608
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.880
because I noted that when you were
you were talking before that you I think

609
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:45.039
you also attach that to the wisdom
tradition of the path of addition and path

610
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.559
of subtraction. I've never heard this
language before. Tell us more about that,

611
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right. So this this also ties
in with the idea of more is

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better. Right. So, the
path of addition says that if we want

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to move forward towards something like our
purpose or even a goal, many times

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there is an approach that says,
oh, do more, gay more skills,

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get more accomplishments, have more experiences, more and more and more and

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more. So it's the path of
addition. What can I do that's gonna

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help me go forward? Right?
And then but then there's another path,

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which is called the path of subtraction, and the path of subtraction, which

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actually speaks to something you mentioned earlier. I'm just about to put that together

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myself go forward, which is what
can you what can we take away that's

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a hindrance, What can we take
away that's not necessary and that's actually consuming

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energy that we could better use to
move smoothly and easily along the path.

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And you know it's it's it's not
as familiar a concept to think, Okay,

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path of addition, path of subscription, subtraction. I think we tend

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most of us tend to focus more
on the path of addition, and we

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don't give nearly as much priority or
importance to considering the path of traction.

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And it's important that we do both. M yeahs, as we were saying

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before, you either we've got this
this this amount of energy, and yes

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we can still get it and such, but better to really be choiceful about

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where to really put our energy in
our time and is that really worth our

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time? Is it really going to
allow us to be able to express our

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highest possible purpose and serve at our
best, highest level. And it's amazing

633
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to me how much let's call it
busy work that really gets done, that

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takes up so much energy, right, that we really don't have to do

635
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and someone else would gladly do that
for us. That's right. And it's

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also encouraged at work by sort of
the norms that the idea of face time.

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Right, you know, it's not
really satisfying work, but you have

638
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to look busier, you have to
stay till ten at night to look like

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you're you're you're worthy of promotion or
something like that. And when we actually

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tune into ourselves and we have this
real deep sense of what's what's right for

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us and what are we here to
do? It's not here to be doing

642
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some of these other things that aren't
part of our purpose. They may be

643
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part of other people's purpose, which
is great, Let them do it.

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What really is important to us?
And how can we stay on track and

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on purpose? Yeah, So,
as a quick example, listeners and viewers,

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I was having a conversation with a
gentleman yesterday and we were talking about

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some way maybe trying to find a
way to collaborate turn our two companies,

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and I'm sure everybody was up to
tun I said, that's fantastic, beautiful

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great creation doesn't align with us,
but so thank you very much. I'm

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happy to refer you if it makes
sense. But it just doesn't make any

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sense for us to put any energy
into that because it's not aligned. It

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doesn't threat through our purpose. So
that kind of ability to recognize and say

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thanks, but no thanks, it
works. So you already heard me say,

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Joyce, sorry, we're getting so
close to being out of time already.

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It's just amazing you already heard me
say that my approach to stoking energy

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is through the logo therapeutic lens of
trying to find more mean and getting more

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access to it. It may be
in a minute or so. Can you

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give a couple of approaches that you
offer it to people to stoke energy or

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00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.000
to manage energy? Sure? I
think one of well, purpose, as

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you say, like purpose really does? It helps us. It helps our

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brain because it research shows that when
we feel like we're on purpose, we

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have much more cognitive resilience. And
so that's really important. That gives us

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more energy to be able to be
clear and creative and move forward on our

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goals as well as our purpose.
And then also when we're on purpose,

665
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we you know, we don't have
as much cortisol, so that's stress that

666
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:39.280
drains us also drops a way as
well, and so that is a great

667
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:44.199
way to gain purpose. So it's
sort of this loop that happens that,

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oh, if we're if we're on
purpose, we get more energy. And

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when we have more energy, we
can be more on purpose. So I

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think that those are really important things
to help generate energy. And then of

671
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course many people have heard that the
positive emotions, like focusing on gratitude is

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an amazing and really quick way to
generate a lot of energy. So there's

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00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.639
a lot of these different, easy, simple approaches, but maybe people haven't

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00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.400
put it together to say, oh, if I do this this practice,

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it will help me fuel my purpose. They might say, oh, it

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00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.519
feels good, but now it's more
than that, it will actually be a

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contribute to your leading a more meaningful
and satisfying life. Beautiful. Well,

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here we are at the clothes and
you know that there shows listen to people

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across the world and they generally tune
it because they're they're out to be able

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to elevate their own connection to meaning
and purpose, or they want to help

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create cultures where people feel enlivened and
want to do their work at their highest

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level, or become inspirational leaders themselves
and do business at betters the world.

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What would like to lead our listeners
with today? Yes, So I think

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that this idea of the sustainable,
sustainable change leading to growth is super important.

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And if we want that, then
we need to take a moment to

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reflect on what's gone for and put
it in the context of a process or

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a journey so that we can go
ahead and build on that foundation and move

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forward. And then to think about
purpose, is that bigger than a goal,

689
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that north star that will guide us
throughout our life and guide our decisions

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00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.480
and actions. And then the other
last couple things are self awareness is key.

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You can't go wrong by developing your
own self awareness and your own beginning

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00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:28.440
to understand energy system. So the
self awareness of our parts, including our

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energy system is super useful for purpose
driven and conscious leaders. And then just

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checking in on that, don't underestimate
the amount of energy that we need to

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be successful. With our purpose,
So foster that, nourish that and and

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every that will help you going forward. Choice. What a beautiful contribution for

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our listeners of yours. Thank you
so much for being my guest and working

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on purpose, my pleasure. Thank
you for having me absolutely listeners of yours.

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If you want to learn more about
Joyce Tom and the work she does

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at Energy at Work, just go
to Energy at Work dot coo. And

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thanks again to our partnering sponsor,
We're Proud, which helps companies build a

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platform where your workforce receives meaningful feedback
and thanks for their work from people across

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your company. Last week, if
you missed the live show, you can

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always get to be a recorded podcast. We're on the air with Jared Pope,

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the CEO of work Shield, talking
about the current workplace issues facing many

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companies, some of the various ways
harassment takes place which will likely surprise you,

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and what companies can do to create
a safe culture that reduces harassment and

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00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:35.559
discrimination. Next week, we'll be
on the air with doctor Arthur Sir mccouley,

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a third time guest, this time
talking about his latest book, America

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Reunited, a relational solution to bridging
the political, social, and personal chasm

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dividing our nation. See you there. Remember that work is at least a

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third of our life, So let's
work on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed

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this week's program. Be sure to
tune into Working on Purpose, featuring your

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host, doctor Elie east Cortez,
each week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.

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Together, we'll create a world where
business operates conscientiously, leadership inspires impassioned

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performance, and employees are fulfilled in
work that provides the meaning and purpose they

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crave. See you there, Let's
work on purpose.