Confidence: The Essential Performance Tool

Confidence, or the lack of it, is the ultimate deal maker or breaker, and no one is immune from its tenuous presence. Whether just starting your career or leading a large organization, and everything in between, your ability to learn, improve, and...
Confidence, or the lack of it, is the ultimate deal maker or breaker, and no one is immune from its tenuous presence. Whether just starting your career or leading a large organization, and everything in between, your ability to learn, improve, and apply confidence makes all the difference in your desired achievement. In this conversation with the Director of Performance Psychology Program at the United States Military Academy West Point, you will learn how to understand confidence, build it, protect it, and rely upon it when your performance matters most.
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working on purpose. Now Here is
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EXTOR tuning in again this week. Great
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we can work together at eleast Cortez dot
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com. With us today is doctor
Nate Sensor. He is the director of
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Performance Psychology Program at the United States
Military Academy at West Point, the most
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comprehensive mental training program in the country, where since nineteen ninety two he has
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helped prepare cadets for leadership in the
US Army. He also has been the
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sport the sports Psychology mentor for numerous
elite athletes, including two time Super Bowl
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MVP Eli Manning and the NHL's Philadelphia
Flyers, as well as many Olympians and
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NCUBAA champions. He is the author
of The Confident Mind, a battle tested
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Guide to Unshakable Performance, which we'll
be talking about on today's program. You
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know to today from the New York
Hudson's River Valley area, Doctor Zenzer aka
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doctor Z, Welcome to Working on
Purpose. Thank you for the in fight,
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Doctor c. This is a treat
you know, It's so great.
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I've had I had I had a
gene on the show step four times.
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He is doctor C just like me. So we're gonna have fun with this,
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right Okay. So, as I
told you before we got on the
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air, Doctors Zenser, I think
your book is phenomenal. It's incredibly important,
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and certainly in the work that I
do inside organizations with leaders, confidence
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is critical. So we're going to
start to show a little bit backwards.
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Rather than starting with what is confidence, I want to talk about why it's
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important. So first thing that you
say in your book is you say confidence
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makes one's peak performance possible, and
that's why it's of such great importance to
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anyone who has to step into an
arena or deliver their best skill or their
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best their best performance. Tell us
a little bit more about this, this
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notion of how does it make our
best peak performance possible? When we are
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in a state of confidence, when
we were in a state of certainty,
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there is is a lot less buzzing
around in our brains, fewer thoughts about
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what might happen, what could happen, what should happen, what should not
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happen. Anytime we have those last
log of discursive thoughts, anytime that is
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going around. That's sucking up our
bandwidth, that's sucking up our energy,
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that's making it harder for us to
actually pay attention to what does matter,
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the conversation we're in, the ball
we're trying to hit, and so by
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interfering with what's coming in, those
thoughts make it harder for us to actually
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be present. Those thoughts also make
it harder for our accumulated memories to go
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back and pull out from our experience
the right response in the moment, because
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again there's all this interference. Further, all that discursive thought interferes with the
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delivery of the proper instructions through our
nervous system to our eyes, to our
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hands, to our feet, to
our body, to our mouth, in
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order to deliver the best response in
the moment to what is actually out there.
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That's why a sense of confidence,
a sense of certainty, is so
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important. And we're gonna we're gonna
peel that back quite a good as we
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go along. But next, let's
talk about your actual operational definition of confidence.
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Certainly, I try to put it
in a very concrete context for people
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who actually have to go out there
and do things. Most definitions of confidence
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are rather abstract that they're just sort
of conceptual, but they don't really help
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you function. And my definition is
simply this confidence is a sense of certainty
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you have about an ability or a
group of abilities, which allows you to
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execute those abilities basically without thinking very
much about them, basically act unconsciously.
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We all have experience in this.
We all know what it's like to be
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automatically tying up our shoelaces, which
is a rather complicated process when you actually
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think about it, but we practiced
it, and we got to the point
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where I don't have to think about
that. So I can be automatic,
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and I can be that way completely
tuned in to what's going on, without
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having to worry about how I'm doing
it, whether I'm doing it right or
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wrong, what the consequences might be. I can stay present while I'm doing
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any activity if I had developed that
sense of certainty about it. I find
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that definition so accessible. Thank you
for that. Okay, so next,
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we can't not talk about this,
doctor Z right, we have to talk
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a little bit about the work that
you've been doing training the minds of US
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Military Academy at Cadets. Amazing.
I can't even imagine my brother in law
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is a colonel in the US Army
and I can't even imagine the kind of
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training that he's gone through. So
tell us a little bit about that.
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Okay. I am very privileged who
have been an employee for the Department of
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the Army for the last thirty years. And I'm speaking to your audience today
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not as a representative of the Army. Now, I'm not speaking on behalf
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of the Army. I'm simply speaking
on behalf of a civilian subject matter expert
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who's been lucky enough to work and
support the important work of the Army.
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And I have to say a last
working at West Point has been the honor
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of a lifetime. These are young
men and women who, instead of simply
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following the path of least resistance and
going for something that might be a heck
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of a lot of fun, they
are investing in a very demanding forty seven
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month cadet experience from which they will
earn a bachelor's degree and a commission as
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a second lieutenant in the Army.
So they have to be very good in
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the classroom to get that Bachelor of
Science degree. They've got to be very
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very fit physically. We have mandatory
physical fitness training, mandatory fitness testing,
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all kinds of interesting mandatory courses,
boxing, grappling, survivals, swimming,
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you name it. And in addition, we have a full athletic program where
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these cadets compete on the NCAA Division
one stage. So it really is a
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different experience for these eighteen to twenty
two year old folks who are going to
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go on to serve for a minimum
of five years in the army. Many
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of them serve for twenty thirty years, raising coming up to some of the
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highest ranks in the army. Others
will leave after their five or their ten
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years and take on civilian leadership jobs
throughout the country. I got goosebumps a
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second that you started talking about it
being such a privileged role, and I
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really appreciate that you have that perspective
that you get to literally be part of
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all of these lives and help steward
them for it. It is phenomenal.
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But wait, there's more. You've
also worked with Olympic athletes and world class
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athletes to help them develop critical confidence
and position for peak performance, which is
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crazy. In my introduction I named
one of them. Can you give us
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maybe a couple examples there. Certainly, I was privileged to be a regular
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consultant to the NHL's Philadelphia Flyers for
about twelve seasons. These are very talented
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men who travel all over the country
playing an eighty game schedule, a very
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fast, very physical sport that requires
tremendous physical toughness, but it also requires
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tremendous mental toughness to try to be
at your peak that often, that regularly
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in the face of, you know, some hostile crowds, because, let's
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face it, ladies and gentlemen,
the enemy gets a vote. Yeah,
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this is important to realize. And
we think of the glamorous experience of a
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young man playing professional sports. No, it is a grind, it is
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difficult, It involves all kinds of
challenges. But simply to inform, maybe
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inspire a little bit, but to
educate some of these fellas in how to
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get the best out of themselves that
last fifteen percent of their performance, which
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at the world class level is the
difference between first place and tenth place.
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This has been my work with so
many elite performers over the decades. M.
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Yeah, you know it's so interesting
when I first, well, first,
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let me back in and say I
feel very privileged to get do the
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work that I do, to be
able to host the show. Now for
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seven years, I have met some
amazing minds like yours, and I'm I
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am better at buy that experience,
right, I learned from that experience,
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and so so many of the things
that you said in your book, they
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were they were novel and new to
me, and at first I was I,
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oh, wait a minute, this
is a book. This guy's a
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military guy. Oh, this guy's
a sports guy. But of course,
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immediately within the first few pages,
I realized this is applicable everywhere in life,
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right, and why I wanted to
have you on the show. And
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so it's just the profundity of it
for me, is is pretty pretty intense.
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So you talked about what confidence is. I wonder I didn't ask you
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to think about this, but it
might be interesting since you do in the
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book, could you say a little
bit about what it isn't Confidence is not
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outspoken arrogance in the book. Yeah, that is something that I think we
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have a little trouble with in this
world. The idea, the perhaps stereotype
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of the confident individual is someone who
is loud and brash and calls attention to
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him or herself. And that's not
all that socially appealing for most of us.
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But the fact of the matter is
that confidence, as I described,
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is this sense of certainty. It's
an internal thing. It has enough to
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do with how loud or how quiet
you might choose to be. So I
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tell all of my clients and students, and I will tell us share this
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with all your listeners. If you
happen to be a naturally somewhat introverted,
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somewhat private, somewhat quiet individual,
you can achieve tremendous confidence because it's what
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you have on the inside. It's
you can be a very polite and very
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respectful, modest individual on the outside, okay, but you can have a
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tremendous sense of power about yourself on
the inside. One of my favorite stories,
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and I should tell this because it's
winter Olympic time right, thank you,
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was working with members of our US
bobsled team in preparation for the two
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thousand and two Olympic Games in Salt
Lake City now twenty years ago, and
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one of the members of that team, a young lady who won the gold
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medal in women's bob sled in that
Olympic Games was about the quietest and you
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know, shy young lady. But
when she stepped out of the sled having
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just won the Olympic Games with the
crowd going wild and the flags raving,
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and along comes the commentator from CBS
Sports and shoves the microphone and young Jill
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Bachan's face and says, well,
you know, you weren't the medal favorite
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and you weren't really supposed to be
or how did you do this? How
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did you accomplish this? Jill Backen, in her quiet, modest, respectful
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way, just said, well,
we had confidence and that's what we had
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to go with. You said that
in your book is beautiful. Yeah,
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and that's another reason why I so
badly wanted to have you on the show,
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because I, as I mentioned to
your your your publicist, in the
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work that I do inside companies with
leaders, there isn't anybody that doesn't suffer
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from confidence, right. There's it's
just it's it's like almost a crisis.
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And sometimes I think it's women suffer
more than men, but it's not.
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That's not really what I found.
And so it's so so important what we're
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talking about here, and it's this
notion of of of you also talk about
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protecting it later in the book as
well, which I think is just really
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powerful. So there's so much we
could talk about here. But before I
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go on, you know, to
go, We'll take a quick break here
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in just a second. Before we
do that, though, doctor C.
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You know, why did you write
this book? This is a lot of
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work. Yeah, this was a
lot of work. But I had to
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write the book because of the number
of people who would come into my office
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and say, Gosh, I just
don't seem to have any confidence in myself
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anymore. I used to be.
I used to feel pretty good about what
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I could do and how well I
could perform, but it seems to have
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evaporated. And that was a theme
that kept coming up and kept coming up,
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and kept coming up and kept coming
up. So I figured I'd put
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everything I knew about it into between
two covers, and so here's the book.
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One of the other things I really
appreciate that you say in your book,
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which we have to say on air
here, is that confidence can be
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developed, it can be learned.
It's not something you're either issued with or
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don't get right. That's so important
that listeners and viewers hear that, Yeah,
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that is exactly okay, And again
the young lady. I was just
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referring to Jill Bachen the Bob Slater
as a perfect example. Okay. Jill
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Bachen looked me in the eye in
December of two thousand and said, I
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could use a lot more confidence,
doctor Zinser. And then fourteen months later
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she's jumping out of the sled having
just one a gold medal in the Olympics,
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and when asked, how'd you do
it, she said, well,
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we had confidence, So I guess
she grew some in those intervening fourteen months.
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That's an important lesson for people.
I don't care how much you do
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have or how much you don't have. I don't care what aspect of your
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life. Trying to get some in
you can grow more, build more,
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cultivate more. It is a skill
that you cultivate and build, just like
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your ability to hit a backhand,
or your ability to do push ups,
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or your ability to run, or
your ability to understand some of the dynamics
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of the periodic table of the elements. It's a learnable, practicable skill.
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Great way to send us into the
break, doctor z I'm your host police
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Cortez. Who're on the year of
a doctor Natesensor. He's the author of
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The Competent Mind, A battle tested
guy to unshakable performance. We've been talking
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a bit about some of his work
and why he got into it and how
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he does it. After the wreak, we're going to talk more about some
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of his methodology to help growth that
confidence. Stay with us, We'll be
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right back. Doctor Release Cortez is
a management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose
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and inspirational speaker and author. She
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and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning
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com. Now back to working on
Purpose. Thanks for saying with us,
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and welcome back to the program.
Before we talk again with doctor Z.
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I do want to invite you to
check out my book. It's called Purpose
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Ignited, How Inspiring Leaders Ignite passion
and elevated Cause. It's on Amazon.
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I wrote it to awaken readers to
their passionate purpose and help transform them into
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inspirational leaders who enliven the workplace and
elevate the contribution of business to all its
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stakeholders. So there's something there for
everyone, and I do use the content
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as a basis for my vitally Inspired
Leadership program and to Grab your Guster program.
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So I hope you check it out
if you're just during the program today.
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My guest is doctor Nate Tinser.
He's the director of Performance Psychology program
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at the United States Military Academy at
West Point. He is also the author
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of The Confident Mind, a battle
Tested Guide to Unshakable Performance. I'm your
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host, Doctor Elie's Cortez. So
now let's peel back some of this onion,
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shall we. Let's do that.
Let's do it. Let's cook all
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right, So first I want I
want to talk about this really interesting perspective
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that I think that if we have
to talk about as a foundation. So
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you say, the truth is this
confidence has relatively little to do with what
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actually happens to you and pretty much
everything to do with how you think about
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what happens to you. And then
you go on to orient us to the
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idea of confidence like a bank account, which is brilliant. So let's start
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with that perspective if we can.
Certainly, there are innumerable stories of individ
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viduals who had a lot of good
experiences, a lot of success along the
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path of their lives, yet they
still felt incomplete, they still felt insecure.
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In the words of one gentleman who
went on to enter the NFL's Hall
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of Fame, I thought I sucked. Despite having a remarkable backlog of success,
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having been drafted high, playing starting
in the NFL, leading the league
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in the vital statistical category, making
a rather nice salary, his successes somehow
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didn't inform his feelings, and the
reason being because when he thought about himself,
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his memories flashed back to some of
the plays where he was held back,
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some of the plays where he missed
an assignment, the relatively few episodes
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of mistakes, failure, and set
back. Conversely, you can come across
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some people who have had a lot
of setbacks they have experienced relatively little success
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in the course of their lives.
Yet they are very good at thinking about,
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remembering, hanging on to lingering upon
the memories of their relatively few successes,
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and hence they feel powerful in the
moment, and they go into their
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work and their lives with a great
deal of enthusiasm. So it does not
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matter what happened to you. One
of the stories in my book is of
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a tragedy that occurred in the early
days of the Iraq War in April of
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two thousand and three, when a
young man that I had counseled at West
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Point, captain of ar lacrosse team, now retired Captain John Fernandez, his
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platoon moving forward towards Baghdad in the
early days of the Iraq War, suffered
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from a friendly fire incident. A
US plane, an Air Force plane,
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mistakenly dropped a bomb in the wrong
place, and that bomb took off young
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Lieutenant John Fernandez's legs. And this
was a vigorous, physical young man.
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But he woke up in the hospital
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his soldiers had died in that attack, and he looks down at his legs
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or what used to be his legs
and says, I will never feel sorry
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for myself. I'm going to have
a great life. I'm going to have
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a great life. Here is a
man who just suffered a considerable tragedy,
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yet he reacted to it with a
sense of optimism and purpose. And if
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you were to meet him and he
was wearing long pants, you would never
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know that he's walking on two prosthetic
legs. It's those kinds of stories that
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teach us it's really not about the
events in our lives, it's the perspective
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we take on them. It is
the classic stoic philosophy that has meaning for
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everybody in this world today. That
sets us up perfectly to start kind of
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peeling back down onion. We were
talking about the layers. So one of
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the things that you talk about here
at which I really appreciate the waste that
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the whole book up, but you
talked to us about the importance ability and
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the effective mental filter to capture those
viable past deposits. So you're talking about
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these events that occurred in the past. So I think that if you could
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just say a bit more about how
we can you know, construct, consider
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and develop that that filter for those
past events. To handle those past events.
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You know, we all have the
ability to pull certain memories back from
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our storehouse of experience. I'm simply
asking people to be somewhat selective and somewhat
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careful about the memories that they bring
into their consciousness time and time again.
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I urge people to think about your
most fulfilling moment in your work, in
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your sport, in your relationships.
What are the moments that stand out as
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being very fulfilling and memorable. Let's
put a list of those together. I
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call it the top ten for obvious
reasons, Let's list those top ten memories.
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Let's post that list somewhere where we
will see it and be reminded of
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the things that we can take pride
in, the things that give, indeed
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give our lives. Meaning, those
ten memories to me are like ten big
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fat checks that have been written out
to you, which you walk down to
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your local bank with and ask the
teller, may I please open an account?
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Here's my deposits, And now you
create a storehouse, a repository of
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men memories that give you a sense
of purpose and enthusiasm and optimism. That's
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how we start this process to create
a mental bank account. You know you're
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reminded me just now in this moment, doctors of a great movie and the
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listeners of viewers can connect this Cinderella
man Russell Krowts going in for the big
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fight. What is his coach and
trainer do? He strolls into the room
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and he starts recounting all these great
past successes. Who was it, by
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the way that beats so and so? Oh, that was me? Right,
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That's what you're talking about. That's
what I'm talking about. And if
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we give it a moment's thought,
every one of us can come up with
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that top ten list. And all
that is required is the will. You
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have the capacity That free will is
built into us as human beings, and
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all you need is a little bit
of desire to look for the best in
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yourself. We construct that initial top
ten list, and then we take that
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same process, but we put it
into use day by day. We made
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yeah, daily deposits into that mental
bank account. At the end of the
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day, it can be as you
leave the office, as before you retire
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for the evening, take out a
pencil and take out a notebook and write
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down where did you put some quality
effort in today? Where did you resist
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procrastination? What did you get done
that was maybe a pain in the rear,
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but you got it done because they
knew you had to get it done.
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You should acknowledge that you should record
that little episode of effort and then
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record an episode of some kind of
success. What did you get right?
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It doesn't have to be a big
thing, but what did you get right?
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What is the point that you made
in the conversation with your boss or
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with your teammate. What is the
drill that you performed well in in your
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sports team practice? What little thing
did you get right? Scribble that down
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and then think about maybe today,
yesterday, the day before. What does
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it seem like you're getting a little
bit better with Where are you making progress?
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So you record an episode of effort, an episode of success, an
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episode of progress. That's your daily
esp Those are the ways you make daily
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deposits into your bank account. And
now you are building up a storehouse of
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memories that can make you more certain
about yourself in your next performance moment.
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Gorgeous, gorgeous, I want to
throw something up for our listeners and viewers
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as well to build on that.
In the world of just the world of
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corporate work. So I there's I
work with several leaders who then do what
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they'd call a brag session, so
they take their successes and they socialize them
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with their boss, so their boss
knows the kind of work that they're doing,
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what they're proud of, and then
the boss has stuff to be able
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to share back up into the three
origination to help develop their careers. So
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I love your It's what did you
call that? The ESPA Daily ESP Daily
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ESP listeners and viewers hit it.
So we cover the past, were we
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just covered the present? You know, we got to go next and that
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is the future. So I really
appreciate that you talk about the importance of
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spending fifteen minutes a day, just
fifteen a day, envisioning your ideal future.
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Absolutely, and I gotta say,
doctor c your use of the word
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visioneering. I love. Okay,
we in a way, we time traveled
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into the future all the time,
but unfortunately a lot of our time travels
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take us to destinations that we really
don't want to go. Yeah, we
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have the capability to envision, to
imagine, to create scenes, still shots,
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short video clips of the experiences that
we would really like to have.
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And I'll tell you, ladies and
gents, it's fun to do that.
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You can be the director of a
great short movie in which you are making
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progress towards a promotion in which you
are gaining skill in a sport, or
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a physical activity in which you are
making progress in the course of study.
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For the law student, the medical
student, the business student, it's very
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desirable to actually imagine yourself doing the
things that you need to do tomorrow and
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next week, and also imagine the
outcome that you want. And interestingly enough,
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your nervous system when you carefully envision
with a lot of detail, full
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color, surround sound, the smells, the tastes, the sense of movement.
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When you envision that, your nervous
system responds to those pictures very much
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the same way the nervous system responds
to actual repetitions of those actions. In
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a way, your nervous system doesn't
know the difference between what you vividly experience
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in your imagination and what you actually
experience in the so called real world.
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And that is why athletes especially have
made use of this to get themselves extra
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repetitions of a particular technique or skilled
that they're trying to build, and they
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envision winning that final set at the
Australian Open or the US Open, they
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envision that two minute drive that scores
the touchdown in the Super Bowl. You
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can bet that every member on the
Los Angeles Rams and the Cincinnati Bengals preparing
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for the upcoming Super Bowl have received
a detailed scouting report and know what they're
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going to be looking at, and
they are very disciplined about seeing carefully in
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their imagination exactly how they want their
execution in certain situations to be. I
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found that really really compelling doctors in
your book. I'd already already do visualizations
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on a daily basis, but I
wasn't doing them nearly to the level that
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you describe in your book, with
all the senses and really playing it out
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and just being in that moment.
So I started doing it. Thank you
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very much for that gift. Well, let's see what happens for me.
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Okay, let's okay, all right
now. The next thing I want to
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have before we going on our last
our last break here is you talk about
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the importance to constantly protect our confidence, and you mentioned a few ways we
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can do that. Let's share those
with our listening and viewers. Absolutely,
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let's face it, ladies and gentlemen, confidence is fragile. It doesn't last
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forever. This mental bank account of
yours is constantly under attack from the fact
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that you, as a human being, are imperfect prone to error, that
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you are surrounded by other human beings
who are also imperfect and prone to error.
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So there are going to be setbacks, mistakes, simple human imperfection.
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Those experiences, if you allow them, can sort of suck away your bank
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account like a thief. So we
have to protect them. So I offer
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three ways of looking at those inevitable
setbacks and episodes of imperfection so that you
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don't get caught in the oh,
here I go again, or oh my
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whole day is going down the drain, or maybe I'm not good enough for
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this job or this experience. Okay, here they go. First, you
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got to look at those mistakes and
those setbacks as temporary. Yes they happen,
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Yeah they happen, but they only
happen that one time, or that
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two times, or those three times. They're temporary as opposed to oh,
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they're going to keep happening over and
over and over again. You can put
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them in that time box. They're
temporary. Second point, you can treat
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them as limited in terms of where
they occurred. Yeah it happened, but
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it happened there in that place.
My poor drive happened on that whole of
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that course, and the fact that
that drive was poor has nothing to do
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with my ability to drive the ball
well on other holes, Nor does it
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have anything to do with my ability
to swing my short irons, my long
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irons, my chips and my putts
and do all that very well. The
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mistake is limited in where it happened. Third, and I think for a
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lot of folks this may be the
toughest but most important one of all.
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Those mistakes are not representative of who
you are, what you can do,
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what kind of person you are.
They are They don't tell the whole truth.
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We have a weird tendency in our
world to overidentify with our mistakes and
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our setbacks, as opposed to saying, yeah, it happened, but that
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wasn't really me. I have a
different sense of myself. Mistake doesn't tell
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the truth. I'm not going to
identify with it. I could even say,
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yeah, well that happened, but
boy's sort of a weird fluke,
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and the truth about me is much
different. Those are three ways of protecting
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your confidence. No, doctor's inswer. That's just beautiful, so so accessible
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too. Let's take our last break. I'm your host, doctor Elias Cortez.
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We've been on the ara, doctor
nats in, Sir. He's the
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author of The Confident Mind, a
battle tested guide to unshakable performance. We've
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been talking a bit about some of
his techniques that he uses with some of
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the people, all of you,
that he works with. After the wake,
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we're going to learn just a few
more and figure out how you can
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actually use this to distinguish yourself in
the world. Stay with us, We'll
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be right back. Doctor Release Cortez
is a management consultant specializing in meaning and
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purpose and inspirational speaker and author.
She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose among
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stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership and
meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,
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and commitment with in the workforce.
To learn more or to invite a
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lease to speak to your organization,
please visit her at a lease Cortez dot
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com. Let's talk about how to
get your employees working on purpose. This
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is working on purpose with doctor Release
Cortez to reach our program today or open
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a conversation with Elise send an email
to a lease alis at Eleise Cortez dot
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com. Now back to working on
purpose. Thanks for staying well us and
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welcome back to working on Purpose.
One of the bit of news that I
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have to share is a few months
ago that the anthology that I've been curating
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came to be released. It's a
collection of twenty five stories from women across
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the globe who share their intimate details
of finding their purpose, what they're doing
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on a server from it. It's
called Cassily Striving in Why, an anthology
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of women who perseverram mightily to live
their purpose. And now I'm out scouting
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for men across the globe who want
to share how they're living from their purpose
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and want to show their stores.
If you know someone or you have one,
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please contact me at least at least
Corte dot com if you're just joining
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us. My guest is doctor NIEP. Sinsor. He's the director of Performance,
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a psychology program at the United States
Military Academy at West Point. He
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also has been the sports psychology mentor
for numerous elite athletes, including two times
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Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning and the
NHL's Philadelphia Flyers, as well as many
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Olympians and nc Double A champions.
For this last bit, we're going to
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talk a bit a bit more about
a few other techniques and tools that you
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can use, and also talk about
really how you can use this to distinguish
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yourself. So we have to start
there, doctor Censor. I have to
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read a passage that you have in
your book toward the end that I think
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is so compelling, And now I
really see how how you open the show
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fits this beautifully. So here goes
you say, the belief above all else,
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play to win and the other.
Okay, the beliefs discussed previously are
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indeed different from what your socialization may
have you, which, as we said
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before, maybe that confidence is arrogance
and therefore to be avoided. But let's
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remember that the purpose of socialization is
to encourage conformity and the continued existence of
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the prevailing social order. Its purpose
is not to help you discover the full
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extent of your talents and abilities.
If you're a little hung up on thinking
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differently from the crowd, the very
thing that socialization exists to support, you're
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likely to remain in that crowd,
you'll be normal, but is that what
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you really want? Thank you for
that wonderful leading. I couldn't. I
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could not include that in the book. In my early training in sports psychology,
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literally the very first course that I
took with my mentor, doctor Barbara
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Tella at the University of Virginia,
he opened up and said, sports psychology
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is about resisting socialization sport. You
know, the idea of the psychology of
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being a great performer really evolves identifying
all the things that you might have been
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told about how to be a good
person, how to be a right person
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that may be counterproductive to the expression
of your talent, to the fulfillment of
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your potential, to really finding and
delivering on your purpose in life. Certainly,
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we live in a social world and
we observe social norms, but beyond
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doing so just at a minimal level
to ensure survival and courtesy. Then a
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lot of what we've learned about performance, confidence, thinking, training actually goes
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contrary to what really works in the
real world and what great performers actually do.
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You know, you've probably heard a
coach, or maybe you were even
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told yourself that the team that makes
the fewest mistakes in the game wins.
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Okay, yeah, we've all heard
that, and on the surface, it
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makes a lot of sense. Certainly, if you make a lot of mistakes,
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you're likely to lose. But when
you think about that's what that statement
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actually does. The team that makes
the fewest mistakes is going to win.
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You're gonna go out there and let's
face it, I don't care who you
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are. You know, Serena Williams, Tom Brady, Bill Gates, You're
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going to have a few below average
days, and even if you're Serena Williams,
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you're going to have a few below
average games. So if your belief
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is that the person who makes the
fewest mistakes wins and then you have one
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of those inevitable mistakes, you have
just doomed yourself to a sense of failure.
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So how about embracing the notion let's
go all out to win. It's
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the team that plays great between their
inevitable at the d of mistakes and setbacks,
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that's the team that's going to win. It's not the team that makes
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the fewest mistakes. It's the team
that plays great between the inevitable mistakes.
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It's changing some of those beliefs that
I think are really important to help our
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potential actually become expressed in this world. Oh, you know, that's just
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gorgeous for me. In fact,
you set you sets up so beautifully because
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a lot of the work that I
do doctors insert with leaders and organizations is
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we have to unpack all those beliefs
that have informed their choices, their decisions,
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and how they think of themselves in
order to replace them with more ones
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that will actually allow them to be
able to live their best and serve from
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their purpose. So the way that
you set that up for that for us
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is just gorgeous, so so so
important, And I couldn't help but read
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that that passage. We could go
on and on, but I refer to
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them as the seven deadly sins of
socialization. And and there's some you know,
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seven empowering beliefs. You know,
instead of a ball above all else,
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be careful, don't mess up.
It's no play to win, play
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to win, play to win,
instead of always be constantly searching for the
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next little tiny bit of information.
How about having faith in a couple of
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things that you do really really well, instead of, you know, the
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idea that you have to put certain
people up on a pedestal. Well,
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how about understanding that every human is
vulnerable, every human is fallible, and
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even the people that you might have
to compete against too seem bulletproof. Hey,
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they're really just like you. They
come from a big town like you,
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or a small town like you.
They like the game, they like
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the action, and they like to
win, and so it's very important to
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keep them in their most human,
most beat up, pull most vulnerable perspective.
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I'll offer this somewhat offbeat advice to
all your listeners. If you're the
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least bit intimidated by a competitor,
by an opponent, or a potential competitor,
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a potential opponent, go ahead and
use your imagination in an interesting way.
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What does that person look like in
the very early morning when they crawl
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out of bed and their eyes are
all crusty, and they sort of wander
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in the bathroom and pick up the
toothbrush and start brushing their teeth peer or
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peering into the mirror, and the
toothpaste is running down their chin. I
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don't know anybody who looks really impressive
that way. That's so true. Well,
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a great image. Thank you for
that. All right, So,
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since we're going to give a couple
more techniques and tools here before we close
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here. So you talk about playing
a confident game using the pre shot routine,
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let's hear more about that. Absolutely, the idea before you perform is
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to find us sense of comfort,
to find a sense of ease with yourself.
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And the routine that I advise a
sort of a template that everybody can
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customize and work in their own level. Is consists of three things. You
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got to bring up a little bit
of your conviction. You've you've been storing
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up a lot of these memories through
your daily esp et cetera, et cetera.
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You've been envisioning good things about yourself. So how about as you are
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stepping into that room to take the
final exam in your college course, or
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you're stepping onto the court to play
that tennis match, how about you just
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taking a second and queuing up some
of those powerful memories and having a phrase
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in your back pocket that you've practiced, like, this is my time.
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Here we go, Let's see how
great I can be at this moment.
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And then you take a couple of
breaths, and then you put your eyes
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where they need to be on the
ball, on the paper on your opponent.
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You allow yourself to become sort of
fascinated by the most important thing in
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the competitive performance arena. For the
surgeon, it's the anatomy that he or
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she is seeing right in front of
him. For the tennis player, it's
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the ball as it moves. For
the wrestler, it's the opponent's body.
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For the speaker, it's the look
in the audience, the way they are
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connected to him or her. Queue
up your confidence, breathe into your body,
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attach your awareness to what matters.
And that's a little process that anybody
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can use and customize throughout a performance. Thank you for that. I will.
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I always like to be able to
give our listeners something they can immediately
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put it put to use, and
that's one of the many things that you've
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shared. But then there's also the
after action review. Ha. Yes,
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this is something that a lot of
people miss out upon. Ladies and gentlemen.
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The game is not over when the
clock runs down or you know,
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the final bell rings. The test
is not over when you hand in the
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paper or close the program. You
know, for the online test that you've
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been taking. The performance only ends
once you've learned everything there is to learn.
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From it. So looking at your
performance at the end of the day
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for all of us daily work day
nine to five white collar athletes, at
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the end of the tennis match,
at the end of the football game,
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you've got to take some time to
look back upon it and ask yourself a
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few questions. Where was I effective? Where was I ineffective? How was
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my state of mind? What things
threw me off my game? How did
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I get back on my game?
Those are all the what's what actually happened?
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And you've got to your own best
friend and your own harshest critic at
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this point in order to get out
what actually happened. That's the first part
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of the AAAR. The second part
is to ask yourself a question, well,
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okay, so what does all that
mean. What are the lessons that
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I can take from my performance?
What does it tell me about my strengths
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and my weaknesses. I've got to
take those lessons. They can become very
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important. They can become new affirmation
statements for me. They can become new
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deposits into my mental bank account.
And then the third part is, Okay,
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now that I know what the lessons
are from what actually happened, what
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am I going to do with it? What am I going to train?
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What am I going to practice?
What am I going to get a little
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bit better in anticipation of my next
performance opportunity. So in this way we
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extract all the possible value from each
day as we go forward in life,
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from each performance as we go forward, and in so doing we get to
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find the things that can build our
certainty in a constant, steady upward trajectory.
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Fantastic way to get to give us
a tool here to finish on here
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on doctor's answer. So I've just
two more questions. We were almost out
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of time, But I've been a
meeting and work researcher for a good twenty
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plus years, and so I'm always
interested in understanding. You opened it already
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in the show somewhat, but now
we've heard more about you. What are
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you? What do you find meaningful
in your work? What are you most
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proud of in the work that you've
gotten to do. I am most proud
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of the moments when a student,
be it a West Point kidet be it
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a professional athlete, be it a
fourteen year old kid who has an inkling
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about how great she'd like to be
in the game of golf when they suddenly
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shift their understanding and said, oh, that's pretty that's good stuff. Doc,
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I never thought about it that way. It's just seeing those little moments
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of illumination that is where I get
my meaning. My purpose is to create
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those moments of illumination for the people
I'm fortunate enough to work with. Gorgeous.
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That sounds fantastic. All right,
so we've gone through the whole show
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already. It's crazy, opast it
goes. You know that this show is
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listened to and watched by people all
over the world, and we're all about
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trying to create environments where people actually
want to come to work to their best.
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We create inspiration leaders who bring them
to their best, and we do
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business betters in the world. What
would you like to leave your listeners with.
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I'd like your listeners to remember that
they have a choice about how they
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are going to think about themselves and
their lives. Nothing is written in stone,
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nothing is preordained. You have a
choice, and it's your responsibility to
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yourself to make a constructive, useful
choice. And if you're part of a
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team, part of an organization,
it's your responsibility to that team, to
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that organization to make those kinds of
choices. You have that capability of choosing
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built into you, take advantage of
that, use it. And I will
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finish with the quote that I actually
start the book with. A famous philosopher
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once said that the victorious warriors are
the ones who win first and then go
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to battle. The losing warriors are
those who go into battle and then hope
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to win. Ladies and gentlemen,
what kind of war do you want to
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be? Thank you so much for
this time, doctor Cortez. It's been
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a pleasure. I'm really grateful that
you crossed my path. Doctor's answer,
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I really I loved your book.
I devour my books cover to cover,
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and you taught me so very much, and I wanted to pass it on
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to listeners and viewers across the world
to help them be able to realize their
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best and also live from their purpose. So thank you very much for being
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with me. Thank you indeed,
best wishes to all your listeners for a
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wonderful twenty twenty two. Indeed,
if you want to learn more abou doctor
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Natesenser, his book or the work
he does, just start by going to
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Nate Zinser dot com. Let me
spell that for you. Nat e z
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I, n sser dot com,
natesincert dot com. Last week, if
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you missed the live show, you
can always catch it recorded podcast. We
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were on their doctor Alicia Hair.
She's the founder of Turnisoul and the author
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of a beautiful collection of books called
The Unfolding Path We Live and Lead in
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Our Times. Next week, we'll
be on the air with Lori Van talking
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about the real problem of burnout in
the workplace and how many employees in this
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period of the Great Resignation are looking
for companies to work for who will honor
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their well being. See you.
They remember that work is at least a
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third of our lives. So let's
work on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed
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this week's program. Be sure to
tune in too. Working on Purpose featuring
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your host, doctor Elise Cortez each
week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.
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Together, we'll create a world where
business operates conscientiously, leadership inspires impassion,
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performance, and employees are fulfilled in
work that provides the meaning and purpose they
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crave. See you there, Let's
work on Purpose.





















































