April 8, 2020

Become a Moment Hunter Embracing Ichigo Ichie

Become a Moment Hunter Embracing Ichigo Ichie

Want to vastly improve the quality of your life, relationships, and work? In this technological age when gadgets handily separate people from meaningful connection, embracing the Japanese concept of ichigo ichie offers a richness to the everyday...

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Want to vastly improve the quality of your life, relationships, and work? In this technological age when gadgets handily separate people from meaningful connection, embracing the Japanese concept of ichigo ichie offers a richness to the everyday moment and encounter. Learn how you can harness this simple practice to become aware of and in tune with the magic and wonder in everyday interactions and enjoy greater peace, fulfillment, and creativity.

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There are some people that make their
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I'm glad we're connected, and thanks
for listening. Now onto this week's

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program with us today is Hector Garcia, co author of the book of ichigo

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Ichi, The Art of making the
most of every moment in his way,

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and also the author the co author
of ikea Guy, The Japanese Secret to

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a long and happy life. We'll
be talking about what this Japanese concept of

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ichigo ichi means and where the idea
came to research it came from, how

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all of us can cultivate ichigo ichi
in our daily lives and become moment hunters,

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and how companies can leverage the power
of ichi ichigo ichi to create compelling

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products and services and enticing cultures that
contribute meaningfully to their employees' lives and work.

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Hector joined it today from Tokyo,
Japan, where it is fifteen hours

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ahead of time from me and Dallas. Hector, Welcome to Working on Purpose.

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Hello, thank you, Good morning
Tokyo. Good morning. Wow,

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it's amazing. It's a beautiful afternoon
here in Dallas. It's wonderful to know

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that you're on the other side of
the world starting your Friday. So welcome.

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It's great to have you. Thank
you so so to get started here.

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I always like to have a little
bit of fun when I kick off

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shows, especially with an interesting guest
like you, Hector. So, among

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other things among my passions, I'm
an identity and a meaning researcher. So

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let's start by talking about who you
are. There's a lot that makes you.

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I've noticed as I looked at your
background, your profile. So if

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you were to be at a cocktail
party or some gathering, what people didn't

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know you, how would you introduce
yourself? So that this is very This

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is always something I struggled with because
I realized that over my life, I've

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always been changing my identity. You
have, and that's exactly why I wrote

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my first book, Icky Guy,
to try to analyze or introspect in myself

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of what is the real common factor
that is inside me that connects all the

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dots. And yes, I would
say now I'm a writer and an author,

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but before I was an engineer.
I like traveling, I like analyzing

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cultures, like learning, and it
seems to me that one of the common

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threats that it's in all my passions
is like curiosity. So everything that I

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start having curiosity for, I start
learning about it and I want to write

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about it. So everything is starting
to connect. I think I'm becoming an

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author. That's becoming my identity.
That's so delightful. And I share a

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lot of that curiosity. As you
know, I lived in Spain and Brazil

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and I want to do more travel
a level of a broad again, so

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I'll be in your back pocket for
a while, okay, yes, okay,

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all right, Well, let's talk
about this latest book that you co

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authored here, and let's make sure
I'm saying the topic right here. But

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the Japanese concept ichigo ichi? Is
that the right way to say it?

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It's itchigo? Well there is,
I think it's okay in Japanese would be

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okay, yes, okay. It's
a Japanese war Well, it's not really

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a Japanese war word. It's a
company, it's a it's an expression.

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It's a composition of two words,
which means it's very difficult to separate the

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meaning of both. Everything together means
that this moment in a space and time

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with it has the meaning not only
this moment in a space and time with

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one person, but with several people
together, for example, you and me

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now together we are talking in this
space and time, and this will never

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repeat in our lifetimes. Next time
I talk with you, Alice, it

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will not be the same. This
is our first time, so it's kind

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of special, and we are doing
it remotely, and maybe one day you

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will come to Tokyo and we will
meet again, and that will be another

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itchigo. Each moment we will not
repeat again. So that's the basic the

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basic meaning of it. So itigo
each ya helps us to the concept,

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helps us to appreciate more how unique
every moment in our days is with other

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people around us, friends, family, co workers. It is beautiful and

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I loved every word of your book. I read your book cover to cover,

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and on that end, to that
end, I wanted to surface for

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our listeners here we are having this
conversation. I'm in Dallas, Texas.

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My native language is English. I
do speak Spanish, which is your native

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language being from Spain, and you
are in Japan and you do also speak

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Japanese. So I want to remind
our listeners that this is this conversation that

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we're having in English, is at
least a second or third language for you.

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Yes, in fact, I speak
better Japanese than English, I believe.

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Oh my goodness, I'm really impressed. It's wonderful and all the more

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reason that I want to celebrate that
there is such a beautiful planetary relationship here

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in that or. It's all connected. We're all part of one big hole.

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And when I read your book,
I was very present to that,

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knowing that we'd be having this conversation
as we are today. Yes, met

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too, like we are one week. We're humans sharing these moments every day.

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Yes, I like to say I'm
very very proud to be an American,

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but I'm also very very happy to
be a citizen of the planet.

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Yes, that's that would be my
identity. Going back to the first question,

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okay good, I'm a human,
human being. Okay good. Well,

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let's talk about how it is that
you came up with this book.

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As you might recall from some of
our interactions via email, I am working

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on creating my first full length book. And here is you have co authored

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not one, but two books with
Francesque Moralies. So would you tell us

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a little bit about how it was
that you met her and how did you

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decide to write books together. It
seems hard enough to come up with one

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book, let alone doing it with
someone else. What's that story? So

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my story? Originally I came to
Japan now I think it's sixteen years ago,

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and I started writing in a I
think this is a similar story to

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many authors these days. I started
writing in a blog. I wrote originally

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in my blog, I wrote in
Spanish, and I wrote out of curiosity.

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So as I explained, like I
got very curious about Japan. In

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those times, there were almost no
blogs about Japan so and there was no

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YouTube. So when I arrived to
Japan, everything was like an alien universe

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to me, and everything that I
was observing every day I was writing down

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in my blog. And suddenly my
blog became very popular in Spain. It

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became one of the top red blogs
in Spain. And out of that,

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one day, like several years later, I came out of the realization,

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if I put together all these content
that I wrote in a book, I

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could have a book. That was
my thinking if I was I think I

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was twenty six twenty seven, and
I did that. I put everything together

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and I got a manuscript of around
three hundred pages, and then I started

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sending it to publishers in Spain and
they all rejected me because I was an

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unknown author, except one publisher who
decided to publish my book in two thousand

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and eight, and that was my
first book. It's called a Geek in

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Japan, a very nerdy book.
It's still yes, it's still it's a

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long seller. So it's still one
of the most popular books about Japan in

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Japanese. In Tokyo Airports because it's
an introduction to Japanese culture. And this

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book I wrote it alone. It
was my first experience as a writer,

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and now looking in retrospect, it's
an okay book, but I could have

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done better then years later, I
this like my author in the next books.

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Francisque read my book My Geek in
Japan, and francisk is a very

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famous novelist in Spain. Has written
more than fifty novels and books, so

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it's a prolific author. And came
to Tokyo and we met. We had

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an itchy go itchy moment together and
uh, and then we met several times.

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Francis is a very he the hobby
he has us to come to Japan

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and travel around and write novels and
books. So one day he proposed me,

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which would write a book together,
and that's how everything started. Well,

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it was not let's write a book
together, I was, we were.

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It was more it was more romantic. We were walking in a Japanese

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garden, very beautiful, and I
was a little bit depressed because of many

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things in my life, and I
started talking to Francesca about these words Japanese

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word tiki guy which means the purpose
in life. I think it's deeper,

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it's like the overall purpose in your
life. It's your Ikey Guy and Francisque

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didn't know this war was totally unknown
to the West. When I explained to

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francisc and after explaining him about Ikey
Guy, he said, we have to

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write a book together. The world
needs to know about this word, Tiki

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Guy. Let's do it. And
that's how we wrote our first book,

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Tiki Guy, and then the next
books like we are just now, We're

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we're a team. I would say, we are writing it is our latest

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book. Well, of course,
I love how you unfolded all of that

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story for all of us, and
I appreciate how you are continuing to transform

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along your own journey there. And
also I appreciate that you were authentic and

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let us authentic and let us into
your world. That it wasn't necessarily a

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time for you when you met and
were in that garden and in that garden.

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In fact, I do want to
share something with our listeners that I

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thought was so beautiful in your book
and in that in the passage it really

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evokes in me. For me in
ichigoch a moment and that's toward the end

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of the book when you write,
and I quote, we began our adventure

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in an old tea house in Kyoto, reading as the master OIQ said,

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the love letters sent by the wind
and rain. I love the idea that

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the wind and rain can send love
letters. That's an idea that just just

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captivates my soul. And so to
me for the listeners who haven't yet read

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your book, can you bring us
into what you meant by those words in

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that tea house on that special day? Yes, what I think those those

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words, it's it's similar to what
uh a haiku like Japanese haiku poet the

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dude is, these are like tools
to bring your awareness to the present in

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a special way. So maybe that's
what you felt when you were when you

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read when when you read this,
it's not it's not it's less about the

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meaning but about the effect that it
does to your feelings and your brain.

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You're maybe having a bad day or
your tarrets and your mind is filled with

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many worries and you read like five
high coup poems, it will change your

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state. And this is high coup
poems is just one of the tools that

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we can have to bring us to
the present moments, and we found out

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that Japanese culture has many of these. I don't like the word tools,

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but I'm going to say the word
tools. These tools to bring our awareness

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to the to the present, which
one is like these words by o Q

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or our words. And one big
tool, more complex tool that we also

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explain in the book is the Japanese
tea ceremony, which I believe the whole

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purpose of the tea ceremony is not
really to drink tea, but to is

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to evoke this sense of ichigoi moment
in the most powerful way. That's how

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the tea ceremony, the Japaneseter's ceremony, is designed to bring us to the

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ichigti. And of course the reason
why they have you on the program,

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Hector, is that I think that
we desperately need to be able to gain

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access to the present moment. And
so much of what I'm doing in my

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programs am I speaking, and what
I do inside organizations is helping people get

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access to that moment in order to
be able to get present to their passion,

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their inspiration and let that wash over
and enrich their lives. And so

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to me, your book is so
beautiful and the way you wrote it,

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and it's such an easy entry point
into that space, and that's why I

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wanted to have you on the show. So thank you, thank you.

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Yeah, I want to ask there
is it might sound like only the Japanese

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is not. You can also find
your own tools to bring your bring you

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to the present. It can be
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music or doing like things like aroma
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word sakura, like sakura blossoms.
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yes, terry blossom. So the
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let's grab our first break if we
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book of ichigo Ichi, The Art
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Japanese Way. He joins us today
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hours ahead of me here in Dallas. We've been talking about a bit about

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his own journey and his path to
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people across the planet can actually cultivate
ichigo ichi in our everyday lives. Stay

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with us, We'll be right back. This is Working on Purpose with Alice

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Thanks for staying with us, and
welcome back to Working on Purpose if you're

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just joining us. My guest is
Hector Garcia, the co author of the

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book Ichigo Each The Art of making
the most of Every Moment, The Japanese

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Way, and also the book Ikey
Guy, The Japanese Secret to a Long

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and Happy Life. I'm your host, Elise Cortes. So Hector, just

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before the break, you were finishing
a thought. Did you want to add

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something to that before I take you
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just took to like we all can
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need Japanese. Japan is not needed
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own ways. For example, preparing
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our loved ones could be one way
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share just briefly. I had what
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each a moment last Monday evening,
Hector, I was out after I did

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a beautiful tangle lesson. I was
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that, and I didn't want to
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a restaurant or a bar and sat
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worked on your radio show content as
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this couple next to me talking and
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Surely they must be dating. They
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looked closer, I saw a ring
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in their late fifties, and I
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marriage. And so they they paid
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noticing your connection, And they ended
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me, and I learned how they
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for fifteen years, three kids,
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talked with him about his work,
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be a guest on the show.
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being present, right, just like
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enjoy the moment and be there in
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think you were also part of You
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did. Yes, that's a double
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for all of us, and so
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to share. But in this part
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be able to help our listeners get
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use it in their own lives.
As you and I are, I'm a

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novice. You're longer at this,
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in your book that many other problems
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and as society originate in lack of
attention to others. Completely agree with that,

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and you tell us the solution involves
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might be their dying last words,
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we truly receive what someone else has
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Will you say more? No,
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I almost forgot my own words in
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it's very very important. But yes, I think the context why I wrote

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those very strong words is because now
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threat in our society. Now it's
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but this is being told by many
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losing We are all lost in our
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and that's the consequence of that.
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us. And I believe that's very
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basically, I'm pretty sure this couple
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pretty sure, no, they were
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present. So that's one of the
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to try to do like you restrict. Of course, now is becoming even

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more is becoming almost impossible to say, Okay, you have to stop using

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your smartphone. That's not that's not
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finding ways to put some barriers so
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but when you're in front of a
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to talk, like your smartphone should
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the other person in the eyes and
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saying this. I wrote this book
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that this is what was happening with
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have solved for myself. But I've
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developing some habits in my life that
he has certainly improved my separation of Okay,

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now I'm going to deal with email
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is now time for something else.
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or it's time to work on my
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Then I stop everything else. And
it's such a gift, right.

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I know for my own work character
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someone else and we really hear them
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it's unforgettable for them. Most people
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being seen and heard like that.
It's beautiful. Yes, I not this.

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I think you are spot on on
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also feel when people are really listening
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creates a connection, And you have
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that to other people too. If
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will feel it. That's so true. So it's like both ways. So

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it builds on you mentioned that you'd
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is of course why I originally reached
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opportunity to talk about that, but
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book you talk about this concept of
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that with this manchai formula that you
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guy plus kaika plus time equals mankai. Can you share with us this is

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where our listeners can walk away with
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of those terms mean and why this
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meaningful and enriched lives. So this
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because we were mixing too many japan
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connect. So originally the when we
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book, itigo it was one of
the what was one of the ingredients to

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have meaning in our lives? Because
you can have whatever purpose you want,

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but if you're alone in life,
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purpose is kind, it becomes it
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then we need kaika in Japanese means
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a its best. So it's it's
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kaikai, is when in the terry
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when you add time to that blossoming, it will reach the mankei. The

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mankei is the perfect state, like
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a metaphor for our life or us
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mankei, we can become perfect flowers
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there is perfection. This is also
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the world. But mankea is this
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that we can be as a person. And to reach that state of mankei,

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we have to have iky guy purpose
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We have to sparkle new ideas and
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to become like mankei flowers. Does
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I think this formula we made it
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that we need not only meaning,
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day with other people. They need
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will not work well. And the
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that, Hector, is because many
people who listen to this program and it

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doesn't enjoy a global listenership, come
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their lives. They want to be
a better leader, They want more meaning

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or fulfillment from their work or their
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passion. And when I'm out speaking
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oftentimes they say they don't know.
So part of what I'm up to

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in the world is helping them to
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that they can then develop them and
nurture them. And soe that whole idea

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of the kaika moment, when something
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sparked, any passion is sparked.
Just something that I wanted you to talk

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about because people have this idea that
I can't change jobs, they can't change

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industries. I'm too old it's too
late. In your book, you really

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say it's never too late. Yes, it's never too late. And I

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think we give some examples of people
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they're sixties and seventies and they became
manki, they became fulfilled with it,

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so that the word you use,
the sparkle moment. And of course I

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think I've also encountered, like I
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becoming a global problem, because I
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like I don't know what my purpose
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in everything I'm doing at the work, or my daily life is becoming a

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routine. Those are common problems,
and I think that that's also something I

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think, Well, we've all had
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I don't think or maybe I think
there is maybe one percent of very very

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lucky people who they start playing the
piano when they're five years old and that

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become their passion forever and they're happy
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us, I think I read somewhere
that like whatever you start or you study

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at university or college when you're in
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is working on something else. And
that means because that means that people is

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changed, like you're slowly changing in
your passion and what you are really good

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at. And what I wanted to
say is like the main struggle that I

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think everyone has is that when you
find something, okay, there is something

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that sparkles, Okay, maybe I
like this or maybe it's my passion or

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it's not. I don't know.
That's the main question we have. And

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maybe you pursue it for two months, three months, and you start struggling,

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am I really good at this?
Yes? No, I'm really enjoying

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or not? And then you start
thinking about giving up or continue. So

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that would be the time factor to
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something. I think this is something
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really what you like, you might
end up burnout, right, But if

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you give up too early on something
that might be the right thing, then

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maybe you missed on something very beautiful. So this is this is a very

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fine line, and this is where
we need people I think like you who

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can guide people, because it's not
I don't have a solution for this problem

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yet. So I want to ask
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struggled with this for me writing,
for example, I've thought many times like

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giving up, especially at the beginning. So I had all this There is

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this word the imposters syndrome, like
I had all these doubts always like like

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but it's like, I'm glad I
appreciate. So, yeah, I do

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you have thoughts on this, like
I sep or because I could have also

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become vern now and I don't know. Yeah, I do, but let

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me grab our first or our last
break. But let me also say before

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I do that you are a gift
to the world and I'm grateful that you

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persevere it in your writing. So
I'll answer your question when we come back

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just a moment. I'm Alis Cortez, your host. We are on the

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air of Hector Garcia, co author
of the book of Ichigo Ichia, the

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artor of making the most of every
moment the Japanese Way. He joins us

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today from Tokyo, Japan, where
he was fifteen hours ahead of me here

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in Dallas. After the break,
we're going to hear more about how to

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apply ichigo ichi in relationships and at
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Working on Purpose with Elise Cortes.
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working on Purpose. Thanks for staying
with us, and welcome back to Working

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on Purpose. If you're just tuning
in. My guest is Hector Garcia,

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co author of the book of Ichigo
The Art of Making the Most of Every

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Moment the Japanese Way, and also
the book entitled Eke Guy, The Japanese

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Secret to a Long and Happy Life. I'm your host Atlist Cortez. So

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just before the break, Charactor,
you were asking me a little bit about

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I think about staying true I think
to your passion. So what I'd like

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to do is answer that, and
then I want to direct us to what

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you have in your book about how
to cultivate passions around the sensus. So

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for me, the fact that you've
stayed on your path, that you stay

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true to being a writer and sharing
your perspective and your view, which is

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incredibly useful and opening for the rest
of us who get to read it.

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I think so much of that is
just staying true to that internal compass that

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tells you that you know you're in
the right path, ignoring everybody else who

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says it's not possible, you can't
do it, you can't make a living,

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just staying true to that internal heartbeat
that is your your navigational compass.

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So that's what I would say is
the secret to staying on point. I

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have to believe that there's a reason
you have two books out, that somehow

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you've been able to listen to that
compass. Yes that I like the compass

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analogy a lot. What I still
struggle is to know when my compass is

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slightly off. And I think that's
everyone to keep the compass, like,

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do not get lost in life.
I think that's one of the keys.

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Oh yeah, I think I write
books to help people to align with their

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compass and not go against it.
Yes, and so to the point of

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being able to get present to and
access to our passions. I really think

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that the section you have in the
book about addressing and treating and being in

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tune with our senses is beautiful and
I completely agree. I use something similar

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in my own vitally inspired program to
help people get access to their passion and

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specifically I was really riveted with the
idea of your concept relative to the senses

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of dining don noir in the dark
that you have. Yes, many restaurants

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in Paris are offering this experience.
I think that is fantastic. I would

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love to do that. Yes,
in fact, I've never done this.

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I did it in Thailand, so
it's yeah. I think it's started to

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be a popular thing to die that. The main idea is to we many

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times ignore we have five senses,
and we many times ignore or we get

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messed up with all our senses.
Again, going back with the analogy of

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the smartphone, we are having dinner, we are all distracted with our eyes

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looking at the smartphone or is hijaking
our emotions and brain we forget. I

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think we've all had this, like
we are very stressed, or we are

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in front of a very important person
having dinner and the dinner is supposed to

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be delicious, but we we go
back home, we forgot even the taste

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of the foods. That's that's having
dinner disconnected from the itchygo Each year is

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like I'm disconnected from our senses and
the rivers would be like these restaurants that

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that are popular in Paris that you
can have dinner totally in the dark.

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So the idea is that your your
eyes, the input from your eyes sense

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it's it's stopped. You can focus
only on the taste that goes to your

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to your mouth basically, and that
that how do you say that? That

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makes the experience much more powerful you
you you experience the foods in a different

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way, and we can bring that
analogy to everything else. It is not

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the same to if you close your
eyes listen to one hour of your favorite

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music. It's not the same as
putting your headphones and go running outside listening

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to your favorite music. If you
close your eyes and do nothing. I

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think like we have many things these
days that we try to multitask everything.

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Go to the team, listen to
your favorite music at the same time we

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try to do like or start working
and listen to your favorite music at the

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same time. I think that's okay. But if you also create a different

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time where you listen to your favorite
music with your eyes closed and just focus

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on the sound, experience, your
sense of hearing, then that be much

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more as would be I'm telling you
it would be a different experience. I

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completely agree with you, and to
that end, Hector, what I wanted

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to do is help organizations, leaders
and companies be able to utilize and embrace

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this idea of and you talk in
your book about being able to leverage this

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concept to create unique, unique experiences
that enrich all who attend, say a

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company experience or event. I think
that's incredibly useful for our listeners who are

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looking for ways to innovate and to
connect, meaning for their employees. So

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can you say more, how can
companies create unforgettable experiences? So we gave

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some ideas in our book, but
I think everyone can collaborate and have they

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and I think many people like people
like you, can give even better suggestives.

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That we needed the book because I
think that the idea is that created

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the right setup to have and each
ego, eachy moments and bring people together.

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So to think like I'm going to
think meta to to create the right

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setup. One of the techniques is
to I forgot the English world. Now,

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how do you say when you one
of the main techniques that companies do

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is to do now. It came
to my mind off sites, right,

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yes, why I think that's very
good and many ways to organize off sites.

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But the main purpose is that human
beings, we are very sensitive to

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the place that we are. This
again, this is like the tea ceremony

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in Japan. As I said before, the main point is it is not

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the drinking the tea, is that
the tea ceremony place is a very special

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place. Is you go into this
Japanese traditional tea house which is isolated from

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the rest of the world, almost
like you go to a different dimension.

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And when you go inside the teacher
and money house with the tatami and you

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see a beautiful Japanese garden around you, you listen to the sound of the

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wind, you smell the tatami together
with the garden flowers, and you enter

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this room with other people dressed with
kimono, and you almost feel like you're

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in a different world and dimension,
and your mind and your feelings change and

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you behave totally different to all the
people around you. So when you create

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an off site inside your company,
I think the mindset is more or less

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the same. You get out of
the office, you go to a totally

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different place, and then you spend
time together and then you start seeing your

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co workers as, oh, this
person is not really like in the office,

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behaves totally different now when it's outside, it's a different human being.

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And of course there are better ways
that we can design an offsite in a

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more special special way. So you
could, for example, I like the

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idea of badging time, Like okay, these two or three hours, we

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will all put our smartphones in a
basket in the entrance of the room,

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and we're all going to go inside
the room, and you could One idea

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would be to replicate the Japanese tea
ceremony. But you don't need a tummy.

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You can just share Crinthia and everyone
you can start doing whatever activity you

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want, Like someone wants to share
a story and share the story and everyone

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comments on the story. That would
be a very easy for way to organize

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it offsite. That is a brilliant
idea. I think you can create many

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ideas so that the main underlying idea
is to create a different space because doing

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this inside the office is very difficult. You can try and it will have

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some effect. And I think having
a different place with a different mood put

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in some barriers to to notifications and
emails and everything. I think that that's

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the main but then you can also
create your own You can create for example,

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like homework, like you have to
prepare it before the event. Yeah,

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like one big story you want to
share with the audience, so people

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can't prepare or you have to you
have to write one haiku and then you

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have to you have to recite it
in front of everyone. And yeah,

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if it's stupid, everyone can laugh, and that's okay, exactly, like

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still an active creativity, it's beautiful. And you say to that, and

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too, we're almost at a time
actor the idea of just simply posing the

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questions what if? Ah, yes, what if? What if? Magic

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of what if? That's a very
powerful question, which is is one I

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think is one of the keys to
that. It is one of the secrets

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that all creative people have. So
and we're wearing it here. I wanted

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everyone to learn this because this can
be used to write books, to create

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movies, to create music, to
almost everything, like to invent a new

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product. So for example, probably
if you Steve Jobs had in the old

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times, they had like iPod touch, and he probably thought, what if

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I put a phone feature inside the
iPod touch and then it became the iPhone

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with this what if? And most
novels, most novels, novel is use

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this what if. It's like you're
walking down the street and you see a

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guy wearing a hat with a weird
expression in the face, and you say,

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what if this guy just kill someone
and stole a government secret in his

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suitcase and he's he's carrying a weird
suitcase. And then you go home and

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you start writing a novel based on
this what if? So? And that's

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that. And you can use this
with your own life. So, for

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example, I can use it for
myself. What if I didn't came to

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Japan when I was twenty three,
and I, for example, went to

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Dallas with you and lived there.
What if? And then I can book

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that's what happened, Yes, but
maybe something else would have happened. So

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I can start thinking, Okay,
what if? What if? Or you

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can you can think forward, what
if I do this? Now? You

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can use it for your life.
You can use it to create a new

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survey is a new product, what
what if? If? For example,

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probably many of your listeners are trying
to kickstart their own startup or their own

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side business bootstrapping. Yes, you
can use the what App'm sorry to interrupt

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you. I must we have to
close the show and I want to make

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sure and get listeners to your website. So hold that thought. We'll have

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to have you come back and let
me say. Let me say thank you

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two ways Hector for joining us today. First, muchus Garcia, and also

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let me also say to Dinanda,
because I recognize this is a very special,

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once in a lifetime moment and I
want to bid you do with that

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phrase. Okay, thank you,
You're welcome. If you want to learn

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more about Hector Garcia or the books
he's written, go to his website.

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It's Hector Garcia dot org. Last
week you missed. If you missed the

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live show, you can always catch
it be Reported podcast. We were on

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the air with Lewis e Fron of
the Voice of Purpose and the author of

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Purpose Meets Execution. We talked about
that crew interaction. So many companies are

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working to get right in order to
create meaningful cultures people want to work in

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while remaining vibrantly profitable. Next week
will be on the air with JP Laqueur

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talking about the working and his team
do to create more valuable companies through stronger

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brands and healthier cultures. See you
there. Remember that works at least one

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or our lives. So let's work
on purpose. Well, we hope you've

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enjoyed this week's program. Be sure
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