Become a Moment Hunter Embracing Ichigo Ichie

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rate. I'm glad we're connected,
and thanks for listening. Now onto this

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week's program with us today is Hector
Garcia, co author of the book of

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Ichi go Ichi, The Art of
Making the Most of Every Moment, The

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Jack in the Way, and also
the author the co author of Ika Guy,

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The Japanese Secret to a long and
happy life. We'll be talking about

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what this Japanese concept of ichigo ichi
means, and where the idea came to

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research it came from, how all
of us can cultivate ichigo ichi in our

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daily lives and become moment hunters,
and how companies can leverage the power of

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ichi ichiko ichi to create compelling products
and services and enticing cultures that contribute meaningfully

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to their employees' lives and work.
Hector joins it today from Tokyo, Japan,

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where it is fifteen hours ahead of
time for me and Dallas. Hector,

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Welcome to Working on Purpose. Hello, thank you, good good morning.

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Wow, it's amazing. It's a
beautiful afternoon here in Dallas. It's

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wonderful to know that you're on the
other side of the world starting your Friday.

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So welcome. It's great to have
you. Thank you. So if

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you get started here. I always
like to have a little bit of fun

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when I kick off shows, especially
with an interesting guest like you, Hector.

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So, among other things among my
passions, I'm an identity and meaning

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researchers. So let's start by talking
about who you are. There's a lot

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that makes you. I've noticed as
I look at your background, your profile.

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So if you were to be at
a cocktail party or some gathering,

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what people didn't know you, how
would you introduce yourself? So that's this

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is very This is always something I
struggled with because I realized that over my

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life I've always been changing my identity. You have or And that's exactly why

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I wrote my first book, Ikey
Guy, to try to analyze or introspect

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in myself of what is the real
common factor that is inside me that connects

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all the all the dots. And
yes, I would say now I'm a

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writer and an author, but before
I was an engineer, and I like

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traveling, I like analyzing cultures,
like learning, and it seems to me

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that one of the common threads that
it's in all my passions is like curiosity.

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So everything that I start having curiosity
for, I start learning about it

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and I want to write about it. So everything is starting to connect.

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I think I'm becoming an author.
That's becoming my identity. That's so delightful.

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And I share a lot of that
curiosity. As you know, I

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lived in Spain and Brazil and I
want to do more travel. I'd love

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to live abroad again, so I'll
be in your back pocket for a while,

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okay, yes, okay, All
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this latest book that you co authored
here, and let's make sure I'm saying

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the topic right here. But the
Japanese concept ichigo ichi? Is that the

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right way to say it? Ichigo? Well there is, I think it's

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okay in Japanese would be ichigo itchi. Okay, yes, so okay.

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It's a Japanese word. Well,
it's not really a Japanese word. It's

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a comment, it's a it's an
expression. It's a composition of two words,

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which means it is very difficult to
separate the meaning of both. Everything

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together means that this moment in the
space and time with it has the meaning

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not only this moment in the space
and time with one person, but with

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several people together. For example,
you and mean now together we're talking in

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this space and time, and this
will never repeat in our lifetimes. Next

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time I talk with you, Alice, it will not be the same.

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This is our first time, so
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doing it remotely, and maybe one
day you will come to Tokyo and we

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will meet again, and that will
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not repeat again. So that's the
basic the basic meaning of it. So

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itchigo itchia helps us to the concept, helps us to appreciate more how unique

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every moment in our days is with
other people around us, French, family,

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co workers. It is beautiful and
I loved every word of your book.

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I read your book cover to cover, and on that end or to

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that end, I wanted to surface
for our listeners here we are having this

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conversation. I'm in Dallas, Texas. My native language is English. I

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do speak Spanish, which is your
native language being from Spain, and you're

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in Japan and you do also speak
Japanese. So I want to remind our

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listeners that this is this conversation that
we're having in English, is at least

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a second or third language for you. Yes, in fact, I speak

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better Japanese than English. I believe. Oh my goodness, that's really impressed.

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It's wonderful, and all the more
reason that I want to celebrate that

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there is such a beautiful planetary relationship
here in that we're all it's all connected,

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we're all part of one big hole. And when I read your book,

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I was very present to that,
knowing that we'd be having this conversation

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as we are today. Yes,
meet like we are one week. We're

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humans sharing these like echiichi moments every
day. Yes, I like to say,

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I'm very very proud to be an
American, but I'm also very very

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happy to be a citizen of the
planet. Hey, yes, that's that

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would be my identity. Going back
to the first question, okay, good,

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human human being. Okay, good, Well, let's talk about how

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it is that you came up with
this book. As you might recall from

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some of our interactions via email,
I am working on creating my first full

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length book. And here it is. You have co authored not one,

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but two books with Francesque Moralis.
So would you tell us a little bit

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about how it was that you met
her and how does you decided to write

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books together. It seems hard enough
to come up with one book, let

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alone doing it with someone else.
What's that story? So my story?

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Originally I came to Japan now I
think it's sixteen years ago, and I

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started writing in I think this is
a similar story too many authors these days.

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I started writing in a blog,
and I wrote originally in my blog,

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I wrote in Spanish, and I
wrote out of curiosity, so as

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I explained, like I got very
curious about Japan. In those times,

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there were almost no blogs about Japan
so and there was no YouTube. So

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when I write to the pan everything
was like an alien universe to me,

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and everything that I was observing every
day I was writing down in my block,

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and suddenly my blog became very popular
in Spain. It became one of

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the top red blocks in Spain.
And out of that, one day,

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like several years later, I came
out to the realization if I put together

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all these content that I wrote in
a book, I could have a book.

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That was my thinking if I was
I think I was twenty six,

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twenty seven, and I did that. I put everything together and I got

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a manuscript of around three hundred pages, and then I started sending it to

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publishers in Spain and they all rejected
me because I was like an unknown author,

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except one publisher who decided to publish
my book in two thousand and eight,

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and that was my first book.
It's called a Geek in Japan,

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a very nerdy book. It's still
yes, it's still it's it's a long

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celler, so it's still one of
the most popular books about Japan in Japanese

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in Tokyo airports because it's an introduction
to Japanese culture. And this book I

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wrote it alone. It was my
first experience as a writer, and now

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looking in retrospect, it's an okay
book, but I could have done better.

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Then years later, I this like
my author in the next books.

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Francesc read my book My Geek in
Japan, and Francesc is a very famous

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novelist in Spain has written more than
fifteen novels and books, so it's a

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prolific author. And came came to
Tokyo and we met. We had an

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Ichigo Ichi moment together, and then
we met several times. Francis is a

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very he The hobby he has is
to come to Japan and travel around and

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write novels and books. So one
day he proposed me we should write a

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book together, and that's how everything
started. Well, it was not let's

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write a book together, I was, we were. It was more it

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was more romantic. We were walking
in a Japanese garden, very beautiful.

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I was a little bit depressed because
of many things in my life, and

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I started talking to Francesc about the
words Japanese word iki gui, which means

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the purpose in life. I think
it's deeper. It's like the overall purpose

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in your life. It's your Ikey
Guy. And Francesc didn't know this world

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was totally unknown to the West.
When I explained to Francesc after explaining him

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about Ikey Guy, he said,
we have to write a book together.

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The world needs to know about this
world, Iki Guy. Let's do it.

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And that's how we wrote our first
book, Kiki Guy, and then

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the next books. We are just
now we're a team. I would say

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we are writing Itchiko is our latest
book. M Well, of course,

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I love how you unfolded all of
that story for all of us, and

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I appreciate how you are continuing to
transform along your own journey there. And

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also I appreciate that you were authentic
a let us authentic and let us into

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your world. That it wasn't necessarily
as in time for you when you met

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and were in that garden and in
that garden. In fact, I do

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want to share something with our listeners
that I thought was so beautiful in your

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book, and that in the passage
it really evokes in me. For me

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in Ichigo Ichi a moment. And
that's towards the end of the book when

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you write and I quote, we
began our adventure in an old tea house

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in Kyoto, reading as the master
Boiq said, the love letters sent by

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the wind and rain. I love
the idea that the wind and rain can

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send love letters. That's an idea
that just just captivates my soul. And

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so to me for the listeners who
haven't yet read your book, can you

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bring us into what you meant by
those words and that tea house on that

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special day. Yes, what I
think those those words, it's it's similar

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to what uh hiko like Dapanese pai
ku boil the du These are like tools

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to bring your awareness to the present
in a special way. So maybe that's

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what you felt when you when you
read the when when you read this,

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it's not it's not it's less about
the meaning, but about the effect that

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it does to your feelings and your
brain. You're maybe having a bad day

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or your tirets and your mind is
filled with many worries. You read like

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five high coup poems, it will
change your state. And this is high

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coup poems. It's just one of
the tools that we can have to bring

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us to the present moments, and
we found out that Japanese culture has many

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of these. I don't like the
world tools, but I'm going to say

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the world tools these tools to bring
our awareness to the to the present,

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which one is like these words by
oiq or our words. And one big

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tool, more complex tool that we
also explained in the book is the Japanese

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t ceremony, which I believe the
whole purpose of the T ceremony it is

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not really to drink tea, but
is to evoke this sense of ichigoichi moment

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in the most powerful way. That's
how the T ceremony, the Japanese ceremony

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is designed to bring us to the
itchi itch And of course the reason why

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they have you on the program,
Hector, is that I think that we

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desperately need to be able to gain
access to the present moment. And so

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much of what I'm doing in my
programs am I speaking, and what I

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do inside organizations is helping people get
access to that moment in order to be

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able to get present to their passion, their inspiration and let that wash over

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and enrich their lives. And so
to me, your book is so beautiful

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and the way you wrote it,
and it's such an easy entry point into

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that space, and that's why I
wanted to have you on the show.

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So thank you, thank you.
I want to ask there is it might

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sound like only the Japanese, it's
not. You can also find your own

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tools to bring your bring you to
the present. It can be something as

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simple as listening to your favorite music
or doing like things like a roma therapy

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is very good to maybe induce this
present like a state or enjoying like a

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Japanese have, like you know the
word sakura, like sakura blossom, Sakura,

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I'll say in English, it's a
terry blossom, terry blossom. So

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the Japanese have this terry blossom contemplation
tradition, which is also it's yet another

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way to embrace the ichigoichia moments.
And Hector holds that thought, if you

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will, I want to talk more
about that because I want our listeners to

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gain more access to it. But
let's grab our first break if we can.

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I'm your host, Elise Cortez.
We were on the air with Hector

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Garcia, the co author of the
book of Ichigo Ichi The Art of Making

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the most at every moment, the
Japanese Way. He joins today from Tokyo,

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Japan, where he's fifteen hours ahead
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been talking about a bit about his
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author. An author. After the
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how we as listeners and people across
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our everyday lives. Stay with us, we'll be right back. This is

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Working on Purpose with Elise Cortez.
To read to our program today, send

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an email to Elise ali se at
Elise Cortez dot com. Now back to

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Working on Purpose. Thanks for staying
with us, and welcome back to Working

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on Purpose. If you're just joining
us, my guess is Hector Garcia,

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the co author of the book ichigo
Ichi, The Art of Making the Most

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of Every Moment the Japanese Way,
and also the book Iki Guy, The

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Japanese Secret to a Long and Happy
Life. I'm your host, Elise Cortez.

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So, Hector, just before the
break, you were finishing a thought.

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Did you want to add something to
that before I take you to the

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next question. Well, I just
took to like we we all can create

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our itchigo itchia moments. We don't
need Japanese. Japan is not needed for

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that. We can all use our
own ways. For example, preparing a

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couple of tea and enjoying it with
our loved ones could be one way to

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create a nichigoichi a moment. I'll
share just briefly. I had what I

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would now consider to be an ichigo
ichi a moment last Monday evening. Hector,

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I was out after I did a
beautiful tangle lesson. I was just

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high on the experience of having done
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home, and so I stopped into
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the bar as I always do,
worked on your radio show content as we're

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working on today, and I noticed
this couple next to me talking and they

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were connected and enjoying each other.
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Oh, they must be dating.
Surely they must be dating. They

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can't be married. And then as
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on her finger and then one on
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they are married. They appeared to
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thought, oh, maybe it's a
second marriage, and so they paid,

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They paid their bill, and we're
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And they ended up staying for another
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learned how they met and how it
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three kids, had been a rough
weekend, and I talked with him about

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his work, which is a leadership
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the show. But it was just
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just like you're talking about, being
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be there in a way that was
meaningful for me certainly and for them as

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well. Yes, that's that's a
great example. I think you were you

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were also part of you you also
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It did. Yes, that's a
that's a double. Yeah. It was

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really beautiful and enriching for all of
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be a good example to share.
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I really wanted to be able to
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concept so they can use it in
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are. I'm a novice. You're
you're you're longer at this, so I'm

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learning. But you do say in
your book that many of the problems we

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experience in our daily lives as individuals
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to others. Completely agree with that, and you tell us the solution involves

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being present with another as if it
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then only when we're fully present can
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offer. I think that's beautiful when
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yes, that's that's powerful. I
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Yeah, that's powerful, Like I
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what you say of me. Now
it's very important. But yes, I

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think the context why why I wrote
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now I think this is a common
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it's not only something we talk in
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by many books these days, that
we are losing We're all lost in our

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smartphones, our notifications, our emails, and yeah, I think digital digital

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tools in general are hijacking our awareness
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us from other human beings around us, and I believe that's very that's very

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dangerous for like everything. Basically,
I'm pretty sure these couple you encountered that

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they were fifteen years married. When
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at their smartphones. I'm pretty sure, no, they were not. You're

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absolutely right, no smartphones will present. So that's one of the first things

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to do, it like to to
try to like restrict. Of course,

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now it's becoming even more. It
is becoming almost impossible to say, Okay,

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you have to stop using your your
smartphone. That's not that's not that's

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not possible. I think it's like
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you have your time with your smartphone, but when you're in front of a

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person and you have to like you
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go somewhere else and you should look
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listen. That's and this is something
I'm saying this. I wrote this book

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also for myself with Francis, because
I noticed that this is what was happening

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with me. So it's not a
problem I have solved for myself. But

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I've been while writing the book is
I've been developing some habits in my life

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that he has certainly improved my separation
of Okay, now I'm going to deal

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with email whatever, my smartphone,
but this is now time for for something

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else. It's time for to enjoy
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work on my purpose and pastia,
which is writing. Then I stop everything

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else. And it's such a gift, right. I know for my own

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work character that when we can be
really present with someone else and we really

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hear them and see them for who
they are, it's unforgettable for them.

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Most people can't really let go of
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that. It's beautiful. Yes,
not this, I think, Yeah,

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you're spot on on that. I
notice immediately these days. If I think,

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like last three or four days,
who has listened to me? Really,

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it's not that many people. It's
like, so I also feel when

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people are really listening to me with
fill it. Yes, it's a connection,

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and you have to be aware that
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too. If you're not listening to
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That's so true. So it's like
both ways. So so another thing that

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you said in the book that I
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mentioned that you've written a boo about
Eca Guy, which is of course why

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I originally reached out to you,
and then I missed my opportunity to talk

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about that, but I did cover
it. But in your book you talk

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about this concept of mankai. If
I say that right, So I did

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cover the Eca guy concept earlier,
but I want to build on that with

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this mankai formula that you show in
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kaika plus time equals mankai. Can
you share with us this is where our

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listeners can walk away with something actual
for themselves, what each one of those

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terms mean and why this formula is
so useful to helping us create meaningful and

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enriched lives. So this was an
I don't know if we're successful because we

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are mixing too many up at the
words here, but we try to connect.

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So originally, the when we wrote
Iky Guy at the end of the

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book, Itchigo, it was one
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to have meaning in our lives because
you can have whatever purpose do you want,

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but if you're alone in life,
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then purpose is kind, it becomes
it becomes meaning like you need both ingredients.

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So this is where the formula counts, like we need purpose iky guy,

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but then we need a kaika in
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terry blossom is at its best.
So it's it's the perfect moment for the

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cherry blossom. So and and then
so when you when you combine, Sorry

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I got it wrong. Kaika is
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time, when you add time to
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The manka is the perfect state,
like the perfect flower. So it's

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a it's a metaphor for our life
or us as a person. When we

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can reach mankai, we can become
perfect flowers or almost perfect, because I

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don't think there is perfection. This
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in the world. But manka is
this a state of the best, most

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beautiful flower that we can be as
a person. And to reach that state

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of mankai, we have to have
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the kaik. We have to sparkle
new ideas and things in us to find

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what what's next to become like Manki
Flowers. That does it makes sense?

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Yeah, I think this formula we've
made it too complicated. But the meaning

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is that we need not only meaning, but we have to work on it

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every day and with other people.
Need to If not like only guy will

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not work well. And the reason
I wanted you to talk about that,

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Hector, is because many people who
listen to this program and it doesn't enjoy

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a global listenership, come to the
program because something's missing in their lives.

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They want to be a better leader, They want more meaning or fulfillment from

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their work or their lives. Something
is not right for them. And many

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people talk about not being able to
discover or have access to passion. And

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when I'm out speaking and I ask
people what they're passionate about, oftentimes they

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say they don't know. So part
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is helping them to discover and get
present to their passions so that they can

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then develop them and nurture them.
And so that whole, that whole idea

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of the kaika moment, when something
unknown begins to blossom in us, something

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it's sparked, any passionate sparked.
It's something that I wanted you to talk

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about, because people have this idea
that I can't change jobs, they can't

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change industries. I'm too old,
it's too late. In your book,

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you really say it's never too late. Yes, it's never too late.

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And I think we give some examples
of people who started to who found something

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new when there's sixties and seventies and
they became manki, they became fulfilled with

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it. So that's the word you
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course I think I've also encountered,
like I guess, like you many people,

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is becoming a global problem because I
think also there is a like global

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problem like I don't know what my
purpose is, or I feel not very

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engaged in everything I'm doing at war, or my daily life is becoming a

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routine. Those are common problems,
and I think that's that's also something I

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think, Well, we've all had
this when you're in your thirties and forties.

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I think this is something that connects
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I don't think or maybe I think
there's maybe one percent of very very lucky

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people who they start playing the piano
when they're five years old, and that

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become the passion forever and they're happy
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us, I think I read somewhere
that like whatever you start you study at

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university or college, when you're in
your fifties and sixties, almost like everyone

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is working on something else. And
that means because that means that people is

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changing, You're slowly changing in your
passion and what you are really good at.

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think everyone has is that when when
you find something, okay, there is

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something that sparkles, Okay, maybe
I like this or maybe it's my passion

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or it's not. I don't know. That the main question we have.

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And maybe you pursue it for two
months, three months, and you start

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struggling, I'm am I really good
at this, Yes, no, I'm

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really enjoying or not, and then
you start thinking about giving up or continue.

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to become like a like almost perfect

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flower with something. And I think
this is something that is very personal to

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each person. I think that if
if you keep on something for too long

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and it's not really what you like, you might end up burnout. Agree,

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right, But if you give up
too early on something that might be

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the right thing, then maybe you
missed on something very beautiful. So this

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is this is a very fine line, and this is where we need people

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I think like you who can guide
people, because it's not I don't have

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a solution for this problem yet.
So I want to ask you to also

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alist because I also struggled with this
for me writing. For example, I've

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thought many times like giving up,
especially at the beginning. So you didn't.

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So I had all this there is
this world, the imposter syndrome,

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like I had all these doubts always
like like but it's like I'm glad I

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appreciate. So yeah, I do
you have thoughts on this like I do

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when I do keep or because I
could have also become burned now and I

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don't know, Yeah I do.
But let me grab our first, our

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last break. But let me also
say before I do that you are a

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gift to the world and I'm grateful
that you persevere it in your writing.

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So I'll answer your question when we
come back just a moment. I'm Elise

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Cortez, or host. We're on
the air of Hector Garcia, co author

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of the Book of Ichiko Ichia The
Art of making the most of every moment

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the Japanese Way. He joins us
today from Tokyo, Japan, where he

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was fifteen hours ahead of me here
in Dallas. After the break, we're

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going to hear more about how to
apply ichiko ichi in relationships and at work.

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Stay with us. This is Working
on Purpose with Elise Cortez. To

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reach our program today, send an
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dot com. Now back to Working
on Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,

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and welcome back to Working on Purpose. If you're just tuning in.

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My guest is Hector Garcia, co
author of the book of Ichiko Ichia The

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Art of making the most of Every
Moment the Japanese Way, and also the

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book entitled Ikey Guy, The Japanese
Secret to a Long and Happy Life.

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I'm your host, Elie Cortez.
So just before the break, character you

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were asking me a little bit about
I think about staying true, I think

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to your passion. So what I'd
like to do is answer that, and

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then I want to direct us to
what you have in your book about how

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to cultivate passions around the sensus.
So for me, the fact that you've

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stayed on your path, that you
stay true to being a writer and sharing

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your perspective and your view which is
incredibly useful and opening for the rest of

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us who get to read it.
I think so much of that is just

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staying true to that internal compass that
tells you that you that you know you're

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in the right path. Ignore everybody
else who says it's not possible. I

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can't, you can't do it.
You can't make a living just staying true

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to that internal heartbeat that is your
your navigational compass. So that's what I

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would say is the secret to staying
on point. And I have to believe

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that there's a reason you have two
books out that somehow you've been able to

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listen to that compass. Yes that
I like the compass analogy a lot,

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like when the what I still struggle
is to know when my compass is just

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slightly off. And I think that's
everyone like to keep the compass, like

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to do not get lost in life. I think that's one of the keys.

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Oh yeah, my, I think
my I write books to help people

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to align with their compass and not
go against it. Yes, and so

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to the point of being able to
get present to and access to our passions.

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I really think that the section you
have in the book about addressing and

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treating and being in tune with our
senses is beautiful and I completely agree.

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I use something similar in my own
vitally inspired program to help people get access

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to their passion and specifically, I
was really rivetted with the idea of your

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concept relative to the senses of dining
dollin noir in the dark that you have.

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Many restaurants in Paris are offering this
experience. I think that is fantastic.

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I would love to do that.
Yes, in fact, I've never

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done this. I did it in
Thailand, so it's yeah. I think

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it just started to be a popular
thing to time that The main idea is

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to we many times ignore we have
five senses, and we many times ignore

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or we get messed up with all
our senses. Again, going aback with

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the analogy of this smartphone, we
are having dinner, we are all distracted

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with our eyes looking at this smartphone
or is high hiking our emotions and brain,

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we forget. I think we've all
had this, like we are very

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stressed, or we are in front
of a very important person having dinner and

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the dinner is supposed to be delicious, but we we go back home,

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we forgot even the taste of the
foods. That's that's having dinner disconnected from

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the itchy go itchyar is like I'm
disconnected from our senses and the rivers would

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be like these restaurants that that are
popular in powers that you can have dinner

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totally in the dark. So the
idea is that your your eyes, the

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input from your eyes sense it's it's
stopped. You can focus only on the

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taste that goes to your to your
mouth basically, and that that how do

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you say that? That makes the
experience much more powerful. You you experience

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the foods in a different way,
and we can bring that analogy to everything

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else. It's not the same too. If you close your eyes listen to

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one hour of your favorite music,
it's not the same as putting your headphones

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and go running outside listening to your
favorite music. If you close your eyes

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and do nothing. I think like
we have many things these days that we

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try to multitask everything. Go to
the team, listen to your favorite music.

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At the same time, we try
to do like or start working and

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listen to your favorite music at the
same time. I think that's okay.

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But if you also create a different
time where you listen to your favorite music

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with your eyes closed and just focus
on the sound, experience, your sense

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of hearing, then that be much
more. That would be I'm telling you,

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it would be a different experience.
I completely agree with you, and

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to that end, Actor, what
I wanted to do is help organizations,

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leaders and companies be able to utilize
and embrace this idea of eigochi. And

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you talk in your book about being
able to leverage this concept to create unique

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experiences that enrich all who attend,
say a company experience or event. I

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think that's incredibly useful for our listeners
who are looking for ways to innovate and

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to connect meaningful their employees. So
can you see more, how can companies

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create unforgettable experiences? So these we
gave some ideas in our book, but

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I think everyone can collaborate and have
the many people people like you can give

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even better suggestings that we diated the
book because I think that the idea is

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that created the right setup to have
and ichi go ichi moments and and bring

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people together. So to think like
I'm going to think meta to to create

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the right set up. One of
the techniques is to I forgot the English

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world. Now, how do you
say when you One of the main techniques

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that companies do is to do now
it came to my man off sides right,

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Yes, why I think that's very
good and many ways to organize off

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sites. But the main purpose is
that human beings, we are very sensitive

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to the place that we are.
This again, this is like the tea

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ceremony in Japan. As I said
before, the main point is is not

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the drinking the tea, is that
the tea ceremony place is a very special

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place. Is you go into this
Japanese traditional tea house which is isolated from

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the rest of the world, almost
like you go to a different dimension.

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And when you go inside the tea
ceremoney house with the tatami and you see

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a beautiful Japanese garden around you,
you listen to the sound of the wind,

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you smell the tatami together with the
card garden flowers, and you enter

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this room with other people dressed with
kimono, and you almost feel like you're

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in a different world and dimension,
and your mind and your feelings change and

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you behave totally different to all the
people around you. So when you create

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an offside inside your company, I
think the mindset is more or less the

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same. You get out of the
office, you go to a totally different

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place, and then you spend time
together, and then you start seeing your

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co workers as oh, this person
is not really like in the office,

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behaves totally different now when it's outside. It's a different human being. And

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of course there are better ways that
we can design an offside in a more

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special special way. So you could, for example, I like the idea

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of budging time, Like okay,
these two or three hours, we will

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all put our smartphones in a basket
in the entrance of the room, and

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we're all going to go inside the
room, and you could One idea would

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be to replicate the Japanese the ceremony, but you don't need a tummy.

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You can just share green tea and
everyone you can start doing whatever activity you

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want, like someone wants to share
a story and share the story and everyone

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commence on the story. That would
be a very easy for a way to

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organize Itchi go Ichi offside. That
is a brilliant idea actor I love,

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So that's I think you can create
many ideas so that the main underlying idea

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is to create a different space.
Because doing this inside the office is very

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difficult. You can try and it
will have some effect. And I think

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having a different place with a different
mood, putting some barriers to to notifications

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and emails and everything, I think
that's that's the main. But then you

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can also create your own You can
create for example, like homework, like

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you have to prepare it before the
event. Yeah, like the one big

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story you want to share with the
audience, so people come prepare I love

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that. Or you have to you
have to write one high kop and and

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then you have to you have to
recite it in front of everyone. And

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yeah, if it's a stupid everyone
can laugh, and that's okay, exactly,

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Like still an active creativity. It's
beautiful. And you say to that

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in too, we're almost at a
time actor the idea of just simply posing

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the questions what if? Ah,
yes, what if? What if?

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Magic of what if? That's a
very powerful question, which is is one

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I think is one of the keys
too. That is one of the secrets

519
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that all creative people have. So
and we're wearing it here I want everyone

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to learn this because this can be
used to write books, to create movies,

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to create music, to almost everything, like to invent a new product.

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So for example, probably if you
Steve Jobs had in the old times

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they had like iPods touch, he
probably thought, what if I put a

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phone feature inside the iPod touch?
And then it became the iPhone with this

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what if? And most novels,
most novels, novel is use this what

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if. It's like you're walking down
the street and you see a guy wearing

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a hat with a weirdest pression in
the face, and you bill, you

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00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:07.599
say, what if this guy just
to kill someone and stole a government secret

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in his suitcase and he's he's carrying
a weird suitcase. And then you go

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home and you start writing a novel
based on this what if? So?

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And that's that's and you can use
this with your own life. So for

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example, I can use it for
myself. What if I didn't came to

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Japan when I was twenty three,
and I, for example, went to

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to Dallas with you and live there. What if and then this book that's

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what would have happened, Yes,
but maybe something else would have happened.

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So I can start thinking, okay, what if what if? Or you

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can you can think forward, what
if I do this now? You can

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use it for your life. You
can use it to create a new survey,

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is a new product. What what
if you if? For example,

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probably many of your listeners are trying
to kick start their own startup or their

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own side business of bootstrapping, yes, and they can use the what if.

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I'm sorry to interrupt you. I
must we have to close the show,

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and I want to make sure and
get listeners to your website. So

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hold that thought. I'll have to
have you come back and let me say.

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Let me say thank you two ways
Hector for joining us today. First

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much garasor comigo. And also let
me also say to de nano ichigo,

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ichia, because I recognize this is
a very special, once in a lifetime

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moment and I want to bid you
ado with that phrase. Okay, thank

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you. They're welcome. If you
want to learn more about Hector Garcia or

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the books he's written, go to
his website. It's Hector Garcia dot org.

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Last week you miss If you missed
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of the Voice of Purpose and the
author of Purpose Meets Execution. We talked

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about that crew interaction. So many
companies are working to get right in order

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to create meaningful cultures people want to
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week, we'll be on the air
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his team do to create more valuable
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See you there. Remember that works
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