Achieving You and Your Team’s Impossible Goals Through Flow

Many people set artificial limitations on themselves and their lives. They convince themselves they can’t reach their highest goals because they’re simply too far out of reach. What they need is someone to help hold up a mirror to their full potential...
Many people set artificial limitations on themselves and their lives. They convince themselves they can’t reach their highest goals because they’re simply too far out of reach. What they need is someone to help hold up a mirror to their full potential and what lies beyond their immediate perception. A coach can help activate and awaken what is already present in someone and ignite their flow state. And in that place, all manner of possibilities await. In this episode, we talk with an executive flow coach who helps people realize their wildest dreams. Tune in and glimpse the possibilities for your own life.
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With us today is Chris King.
He's a peak performance executive coach and
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motivational speaker who is focused on truth. He's the co author of Renegotiate Your
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Existence, Unlock Your Impossible Life.
We'll be talking about what he's learned about
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how we form beliefs and how they
serve or don't service, and the work
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he does to help people to quickly
achieve impossible goals through flow. You doing
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today from plaid coom in Mexico,
where he spends about half of the year.
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Normally he's in Los Angeles. Chris, welcome to Working on Purpose.
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Thank you so much for having me. I'm grateful to be here. I'm
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some of that I've found you.
You are minding your very own business when
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someone sent me to knock on your
door, and I'm very happy that that
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happened. So great to meet your
great to have you on Christy. You're
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ready, I'm ready. I think
you are just a little bit of energy.
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Yeah right, I think you had
enough coffee today. I think you're
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all right your natural lull to be
honest with you, I know this about
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you. Yeah, just you're you're
the human spark plug. So right right.
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They asked me what my sign is, I say, neon. You
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know that's so great. All right, so let's get right into this.
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And for people who don't know what
you do your world, you're a peak
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performance executive coach and obviously a motivational
speaker. So first, what do you
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mean by peak performance? I just
had a conversation with somebody else about something
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that I thought was so mainstream,
which is conscious capitalism, and then this
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whole idea of what that was.
So maybe we have a different idea about
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what you do peak performance. How
do you describe it? Yeah, well,
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you know, the thing is,
and I get some feedback on this,
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like, you know, peak is
spelled really weird on your website.
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Yeah, that's not a typo,
it's it's that way p is p i
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que because what we're talking about,
Yes, we are talking about exponential increases
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in velocity in creativity. We're talking
about lowering stress levels. We're talking about
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everybody in the organization being a high
performer. But the work that we do
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and the way we do the way
we do it is particularly disruptive. It's
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it's an assault on the ego.
So peak is very upsetting. It is
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uncomfortable work, quite simply. It
is not for the faint of heart.
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But it's always worth it. When
I say that the juice is always worth
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the squeeze, I love that.
Okay, So right out of the gate,
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of course, I have to just
rive it in on the idea of
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impossible goals. I have done some
work for around transformation and innovation and this
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idea of people say well, we
can't do that. There's this big can't
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you know that, that performance barrier, and there's something for you you do
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something. There's something about this whole
thing about impossible goals. Why impossible goals,
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Chris, Well, because we can
achieve so much more than we think
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we can, you know, and
and you know the Navy seals talk about
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this, the twenty x rules.
Right, you can achieve twenty times more
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than you think you can. If
your life depended on if you can.
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If you think you can run a
mile, you can probably run twenty and
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and when we stretch beyond what we
think is possible, you know, maybe
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we don't get all the weight of
the impossible that we thought we would,
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that we hoped we get to,
but we get a lot farther. So
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focusing on possible is already limiting yourself. Hmm. That's that is very distinguishing.
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I love that. Okay, so
you already mentioned something about I think
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it was some kind of a torture
technique that you used it to fulfill these
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results. Are just kidding your methodology. Speak to a little bit of your
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methodology, please, Well, it's
it's difficult to say it's my methodology,
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right, this is this is all
based in science essentially, It's it's it's
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a combination of who I am,
what I've learned, and how I'm applying
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it. Right when I was a
kid in grade school, every teacher I
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ever had told me I was disruptive. Well, I couldn't agree more,
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to be honest with you, because
that's where the process starts. It's we're
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going to disrupt everything that's happening in
an organization and within an individual. Peak
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performance through our lens is nothing more
than getting your psychology and your physiology to
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work for you instead of against you. So you mentioned the whole can't thing,
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right, somebody says I can't.
Well, there's like a neurochemical cocktail
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associated that with the mental framework behind
that. So in our work, it
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is about aligning everything you have and
everything you are with the outcomes that you're
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looking for. Your thoughts, your
feelings, your actions, all of your
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resources, time, money, energy, everything you've got physical space, all
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of this can be aligned and purpose
towards an outcome. So it's all about
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leverage, right. A lot of
performance organizations talk about efficiency or productivity.
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We look through the lens of leverage, how do we get a whole lot
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more using a whole lot less.
So, as you're speaking, one of
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the things I'm very present to Chris
because I do some of that work as
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well, is I can I can
imagine a couple of different scenarios as you're
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doing the work that you're doing.
One is that you're creating an environment,
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a situation of possibility for people to
step into and see themselves more than they
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could see themselves before. So you're
helping that maybe add a lens to their
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viewing perspective. That's one possibility The
other possibility is that you in their narration
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of who they are and what they're
up to and how they go about life,
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you can start to notice, Wow, do you recognize that you actually
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do this differently than other people?
Do you cross this river in a whole
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different way somebody else does? So
I kind of can imagine a couple of
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ways that you go about elevating and
enlightening people to this impossibility mindset. Can
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you speak a little bit more to
you know how you do it? Well?
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As I said, the first thing
is to disrupt everything, and then
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because and then it's a process of
accountability. This is where things start to
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get really uncomfortable. Right, we
look through the lens of one hundred percent
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response ability. Okay, we don't
work in a world of blame and fault.
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That's that's old school kind of thinking. Right. When we look at
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responsibility, think of it as a
hyphenated word, right, response hyphen ability
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your ability to respond to something.
And what we do is we couple that
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with the idea of ownership. When
we have responsibility for something, we have
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ownership of it. So think about
your cell phone for a second. If
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it's sitting on the table, it's
not your phone. You have no power
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to affect that. The second you
take ownership of that and it becomes yours,
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you empower yourself to affect it,
to do something with it. So
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what we'll do is with it,
whether it's an or an individual or a
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team, we're going to disrupt their
existing patterns, bring conscious awareness to them,
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and disrupt them. Then we're going
to go through We're gonna look at
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everything through the lens of one hundred
percent responsibility ownership for the situation or for
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the goal, or whatever it is
we're trying to do. Then what we're
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gonna do is we're going to start
doing behavior modification. And you're you're actually
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gonna know probably more about this than
I am, right, because behavior modification
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is the key part. But if
we can set conditions and behaviors in the
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organization, we can start to produce
these exponential increases in speed and creativity and
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eliminate stress levels. And this is
what is known as flow. This is
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what athletes call being in the zone
or runners high. It's all driven by
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your natural neurochemistry. Anybody can get
into a flow state if you set the
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conditions and behaviors to so that it's
a flow rich environment. It basically becomes
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the natural end result of setting the
stage for it. Okay, awesome.
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Two things. Oh, So when
I hear the word responsibility, especially in
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the hyphenated format, I go to
logotherapy. Are you versed at all in
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locotherapy and Victor Frankl's work I've read? Okay, no is the short answer.
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I'm familiar with it. I will
say this much. One of my
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colleagues as a man named Tom Drucker, who's just a very sweet and brilliant
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man. He's got a very extensive
and impressive career and it all started when
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when he worked for Victor Frankel way
back then. And so I read man
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search for Meaning, you know,
and and after working with Frankel, he
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was actually mentored by Maslow himself.
So his pedigree is ridiculous. Oh I'm
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so envious. Yeah, okay,
because I that's definitely bled over for sure,
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because I am a local therapist that's
a Victor Frankle space, and so
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I immediately registered that. In the
second point, I definitely want to make
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about your methodology, your approach that
I love is this empowering right when you
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could be you can help uple understand
that no, no, no, no,
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you are a response able for this. You can this is within your
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reach. That is empowering and I
really really admire and appreciate that. Well,
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thank you. It's it was a
painful lesson that I learned. Actually,
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well that's where I wanted to go
next. My friend, you know,
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you can run for me, but
you can hide because I'm I'm an
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identity researcher, So you know,
I have to. I got to get
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the goods on just how it is
that you became this human being that you
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can do this work today. So
what's the story A little bit of a
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you know, a narration of how
it was that you that you got into
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the world of work and how you
land where you are today. Yeah,
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that okay. So the cliffs notes
is, I did a master's program in
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spiritual psychology and I saw that I
went to hippie school as I like to
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call it, uh, you know, And I've and I've trained and collaborated
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with the best you know, Stephen
Coottler's organization, the Flow Research Collective,
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Jamie Whale at the Flow Genome Project. I've trained with retired and actually actively
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currently trained with retired US Navy Seals. I mean this is these are all
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organizations that are oriented around performance.
Now I have a very long and intimate
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relationship with flow itself. I was
an ice hockey player. I was I
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was trained to how to race go
carts and cars when I was a kid,
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So I understand what it means to
be in the zone. I didn't
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really know that, you know,
what how that worked in terms of the
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neurobiology behind it. I learned that
much later. But ultimately this became the
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delivery vehicle for anything that I wanted
in my life. Because my my life,
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you know, I didn't come out
of a box this way. I
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was a disaster. I grew up
in a very privileged neighborhood in a very
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scary house. And so so at
one point I realized while none of my
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childhood history or any of this was
my fault, all of it was my
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responsibility. And that was when I
started to sort of, you know,
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renegotiate my my life on this planet. So I have another perspective that I
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want to share with you and just
sort of try this on. So I
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have this thing when I do when
I do my strength Finder workshops, I
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always asked the crowd. When you
were a kid, somebody you got you
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were told by a few people that
you're two whatever. And there's always a
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negative adgetip afterward two and people will
readily, you know, can produce you
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know, a few words or you
know a one in particular that come afterward
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too. You said your teacher said
that you were a disruptor, disruptive.
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Yeah, they said I was disruptive. That's it, right, that is
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that that's who you you the role
you've been playing in the world, right,
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And and so you disrupted even you
know, even your own homeostasis in
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your own home, and you know
by by recognizing that you weren't the victim
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to it, you were responsible for
it. And and here you are disrupting
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lives tremendously by helping people achieve the
impossible. I mean, that is a
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disruptor, Chris. And so I
think it's really interesting when you start to
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peel back and you can see that
this stuff has been with us forever,
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right, Yeah, it's just a
matter how to your point, how do
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we express it? And what vehicle
do we use to be able to serve
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from it? Yeah? How do
you relate to whatever it is? You
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know, like how you relate to
the issue is the issue. I was
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told I was disruptive. I told
it, I talked too much. I
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was told that people would pay me
to shut up. Well when I started,
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you know, to realize that this
was actually a good thing. Now
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they pay me not to m you
know, yeah, pay you not to
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not to shut up because you're you
know, so it's just it is rather
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comical that you are a motivational speaker
as well. Right, so, and
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so this is what I find so
fascinating about life. This somehow we can,
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you know, pay attention to the
voices that actually help us find our
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way and ignore those people that may
be well intentioned or just misguided. And
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you know, forget those who told
you, you know, that you're too
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disruptive and you know, too talkative
and to be quiet. Right, imagine
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if you had he did those those
words. Oh I did for a long
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time, you know, I shut
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really went into a shell. I
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you know, because this was not
accepted by my peer group. And
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I will tell you what I've learned
is that everything, everything about you is
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a gift and if you do not
see it that way, you have simply
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misidentified it. There's nothing wrong with
you, Okay. I know right now
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somebody's going, there's totally these things
wrong with me. No, you're wrong.
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It's a misidentification. Nothing is wrong
with you. You are perfectly There
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is an architecture to you that is
perfectly designed to fulfill whatever your purpose,
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whatever your mission, whatever that thing
is. You just need to figure out
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how do I recognize this for the
gift that it is and how do I
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put it into service. I completely
agree and have to tell a story on
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that front. So my daughter,
who's now nineteen, when she was a
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kid, Chris like, I'm going
to call it, you know, I
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don't know, five six seven or
so, her dad and they're having a
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conversation and he said, very very
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she could be anything she wants to
be in life, as long as she's
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an investment banker or an accountant.
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speaking by the way, I said, you know, I don't know have
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you just started watched this kid at
all lately? You know, this is
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a kid who literally she walks out
the back patio door, she throws the
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door and she's braces into the way. She goes, Mamma, do you
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smell that breeze? And I'm just
like, she's so sensated. I don't
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know, I just don't quite see
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away, how about his day we
go looking for who she really is in
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the world and discover her her unique
nuances and help her find a way to
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make that work in the world.
He said, sounds dumb, but I'll
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go with it, And to his
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And we discovered that this little six
seven year old decided she wanted to be,
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no surprise, a chef. So
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she had her own business cards and
said Gabby's astronomy, and she would make
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things and go someone a weekend with
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that, but we did. We
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for her. And wouldn't it be
amazing if employers did that for all of
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their team members, if parents did
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right, that would be the thing, right? So I think you
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and I both stand for that.
But there's there's the story that I can't
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help but pass on. Given what
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I'm glad you shared that because you're
right. I think I think leadership,
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I think parenting is a process of
discovery and then sell it, you
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know, find a way to make
it that work off another story for you
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have to break. But let's grab
our first break. Alreadicals so fast.
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I'm doctor Elease Cortez, who are
on the air with Chris King. He
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is a peak performance executive coach and
motivational speaker who's focused on truth. We've
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been talking a bit about his journey
of how he got to be where he
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is today, some of the things
he does in his work. After the
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break, we're going to continue pealing
back those layers and hearing more about this
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thing about truth. Stay with us, We'll be right back. Doctor Elise
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Cortez is a management consultant specializing in
meaning and purpose and inspirational speaker and author.
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She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose
among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership
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and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment within the workforce.
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please visit her at a lease Cortez
dot com. Let's talk about how to
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get your employees working on purpose.
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an email to Alise ali Se at
Elise Cortez dot com. Now back to
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working on Purpose. Thanks for staying
with us, and welcome back to the
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program. Before we get back into
the content with Chris, I want to
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invite you to check out my book
that I brought out a couple of years
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ago. It's called Purpose Ignited,
How Inspiring Leaders ignite passion at elevate cause
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it's on Amazon now and I really
wrote it to a weekend reader to their
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passion and purpose and transform them into
inspirational leaders who will actually elevate people to
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want to make them come to work
and do their best. We'll use this
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content as a basis for the violen
In Sparted Leadership program and the Grater Gusto
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Program, So hopefully check it out
if you're just joining us. My guest
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is Chris King's peak performance executive coach
and motivational speaker who's focused on truth.
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He is the co author of renegotiate
your existence, unlock your impossible life.
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I'm your host, doctor release Cortez. And so I promised a quick story,
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and then I have I have a
several more questions for you, young
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man. So, speaking of being
able to go looking for someone and go
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looking for a team members, go
looking for people in our life where we
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want to help elevate, I had
the great fortune of first being recruited by
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a man who got me out of
my small town in northeastern Oregon when I
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was eighteen to work for him in
his commercial estate development company. And then
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when I was just that, within
eighteen months, he fired me and he
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told me that I had to go
see the world, get an education,
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and do something with myself. And
the thing about that Chris was the reason
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he did that is because he saw
so much more in me than being his
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right arm administrative assistant. He said, you could do so much more,
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and it would be a crime to
keep you here. I had no idea
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I could do anything beyond what I
was doing. Right, What a gift.
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Right, So when we go looking
for people and we help them reach
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that potential, we start and help
them, you know, you know,
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ache for it, right, that's
such a gift, and I know that's
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the work that you're doing. So
now I have to ask. You know,
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I know that this doesn't happen overnight, but you know I have to
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ask. I mean, you are
You're clearly a force, Chris. When
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I first talked to you some months
ago, I knew that. So I
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want to understand if you can articulate
force, what has called you to do
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this work that you're doing today?
Where does this come from? I don't
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like being told now, sorry was
that my outland voice? I'm so not
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surprised. I don't like pig tolden
I can't do. Look, don't tell
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me what can't be done. Okay, I live in a town where people
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pay like thirty dollars for avocado toast. I mean, trust, but you
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can do anything, all right?
I think that, you know, my
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father probably probably the brilliant man,
the most brilliant man I've ever met.
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To this dad. I don't say
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that because he's probably the brilliant,
most brilliant man I've ever met. He's
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an electro magnetic compatibility engineer okay,
wow, who never went to college and
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barely graduated high school. He's just
like uber propeller head. Right. But
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he would say, you know,
when I was very young, he would
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tell me how rakhelcitrent I am.
I love that way, right, I
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mean, just give an idea of
my early education, right. So yeah,
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I think that's I just I don't. I love to find the odds.
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I love an underdog. I love
doing what can't be done. I
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love it when they say there's no
way and then they look back and go,
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how the hell did you do that? Okay, Now I got to
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stop at this point in interviewing another
piece of the juncture in the road.
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I gotta believe that you have just
had some the most amazing experiences helping people,
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as I say, step into their
shine and totally trends in what they
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thought they could do. Can you
just maybe give us a snippet or two
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of a story or some examples of
that without giving me an identity. Of
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course, Yeah, you know there's
one. There's a one of our clients.
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She called me up. She was
right after her forty ninth birthday,
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and she said, I have some
goals by the time I'm fifty, And
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she said, it's all the things
that should have happened like twenty thirty years
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ago. And I say more about
this, she said, Look, I
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went from my parents to my husband's
house to my girlfriend's house. I've never
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stood on my own say I've stalled
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ceiling. It's just it's a mess. I've never owned a home. I've
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like she had all of these things
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my life is not what I wanted
it to be. So she and
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I started working together, and I
took her on because she was so on
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fire, like she was so ready, so terrified, and I'm like,
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that's right where I need you to
be terrified, out of your mind,
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really wanting it and willing to work
with me to make it happen. And
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she was like, I'll do whatever
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She could nowhere near afford our our
normal rates. But she was so
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on fire. I'm like, I
want to watch this happen. I don't
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care what she's paying me, what
she's not paying me. Something epic is
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about to happen, and I want
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right. So we started working together
fast. She got a raise a
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promotion and a bonus. On top
of that, she got out of her
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fifteen year disastrous relationship where she was
just completely codependent and dysfunctional as was her
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partner. She got extracted from that. She bought a house she's a first
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time homeowner, a place in La
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happened, she a position to open
up in her company in Arizona that she
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was then in talks like would you
like to see about this position? And
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had she gotten it? The home
in La becomes passive income because she rents
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it out. She buys a place
in Arizona. She's literally living in an
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alternate reality. Now the place in
the position in Arizona did not come through,
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but they actually told her, you
know what, you don't want that
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anyway, it's not a good fit. There's something else happening. So now
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the wheels are turning in a whole
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this happened, but the way she
relates to like something like not getting the
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job in Arizona where it would have
created her her she is like, cool,
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what's next? Cool, what's next? Now? This is normally a
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several like this, This kind of
transformation takes years, right, No,
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nine months? Wow, that's awesome, Chris. So I have this this
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phrase that I like to use,
and I'll just bet you can resonate with
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this. You know, the work
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when you get to actually watch someone's
molecules alter themselves in front of you,
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transforming themselves, it is the most
magical thing to witness, is it not.
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I'm so glad you mentioned that,
because you know, people look at
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us through the lens. Oh you're
a business coach and okay, good,
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sure, But the work that we
do really does happen in the quantum field.
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We're talking about the subatomic. We
are talking about powers that you don't
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know you have. And this is
again, you know, as Cottler says,
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it's leveraging everything. It's getting your
psychology and your physiology to work for
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you instead of against you. And
if you understand anything about quantum mechanics,
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about physics, you understand that the
simple act of watching something has an effect
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on the thing you're watching it right
at the subatomic So we know that this
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is all science. This is not
woo hippie nonsense. You know. So
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when we talk about law of attraction, the power manifestation. You know,
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Joe dispends the talks about talks about
this. Instead of going from cause and
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effect, working hard and getting results, you're causing the effect through positive intention,
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through neurobiology, through energy. Right, everything is energy. You just
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taught me so much there. But
most specifically and pointedly is that there is
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power and there is being. There's
something being received when eye witness somebody transforming,
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they get something from my witnessing that
I don't think I understood that before.
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Thank you for that, Chris.
That is just a gift. No
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no charge, I hope I can't
afford. Okay, good, good,
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good, okay, good, okay. Now we've got to get to what
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I teased up before the break here, and that's this little thing about truth
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that you that you seem to be
shall we say, stuck on So you
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you say you're focused on truth?
What do you mean by truth? And
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how so well? I look at
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me. One of my teachers,
I don't know if I'm allowed to say
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who it is. One of my
teachers says, this brilliant has this brilliant
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thing where she says truth isn't really
about fact or not fact? Did it
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happen? Did it not happen?
Truth is a frequency. Very interesting because
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again here I am being you know, you know, playing around and you
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know quantum geek world, right,
and and so truth is a frequency,
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it's a vibration, it's a residence. Right, and this is this is
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different. My truth is not your
truth. Right, It's a completely different
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kind of thing. So in our
world again, there's no good or bad.
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Here, there's no right or wrong. There's no true or fault.
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There is aligned or align. And
the trick is to align everything you have
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and everything you are with where you
want to go, what you want to
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have, the experience you want to
create. Oh my, or you are
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such a You're such an eminently quotable
guy, Chris, you really are.
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I love how you articulate your thoughts. That. I love that truth is
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a frequency. You're welcome. That's
not mine. I appreciate that that.
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Yes, I got that. Thank
you. However, you did share it
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with us. And you're the first
that I've ever had a share having to
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bay share with me. So thank
you for that, and thank you to
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your teacher. Okay, so next
we have to talk about your pretty darn
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recent book that you co authored.
It's pretty amazing. Renegotiate, renegotiate your
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life. So first, you know, I know what it takes to write
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a book, because I've written a
couple and I'm now working on another one.
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thinking when I agreed to this,
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But first I got to know what
compelled you to write the book. That's
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the first question. Well, I've
been I've been threatening to write a book
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for the better part of a decade. And the book I would have written
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over the years would be different books
along the way. None of them I
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think I would be proud of.
This one really landed. It started,
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as you know, I'm just gonna
write this kind of marketing piece and and
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as you can, as you might
imagine, there's a lot of content in
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here, and getting that organized was
a real challenge. So so my co
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arth author, Michael Ashley. He's
brilliant, He's written for Disney's, his
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pedigree is ridiculous, and he looks
like he's about fifteen years old. It's
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kind of annoying. But so he
was able to to get inside my head
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and he just gets me. You
know, he's he's done the reinvention thing.
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He's been on the hero's journey,
you know, like he he and
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I had walked similar paths. So
he was able to extract all of this
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from my my head, get it
structured and organized so that I could write
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something. And so as I started
writing, you know again, I thought
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this was gonna be it's a marketing
piece. But in the process of I
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I actually started to give a crap
about it, and that's when everything changed.
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And so so the book is renegotiate
your existence. I mean, you
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know, you can renegotiate contracts,
you can renegotiate your job or your salary,
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you can renegotiate your relationships. I'm
telling you, you can renegotiate your
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entire experience on this planet if you
understand how to do it. Because ultimately,
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your reality is a result. It's
an end result of a system,
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and any system can be hacked,
optimized, recoded if you understand that system
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well enough, okay, And one
of those systems that I definitely wanted to
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talk about in which I alluded to
an ever beginning of the show is you
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have a whole chapter entitled taking Ownership
of your Beliefs, and of course That's
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terribly compelling to me because I understand
the power of beliefs. So what have
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you learned about belief formation and how
we can change that formation well through the
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lens of responsibility? What is a
leaf? I can define a belief in
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one word? Is a choice?
Right. As you know, beliefs are
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choices that I have not taken responsibility
for. The sad I take responsibility for
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that, for that choice right,
the second I take responsibility for that belief.
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I can choose any belief I want, right and my opportunity if not
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obligation. If I'm to be a
good steward of my purpose, a good
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steward of my mission, my obligation
is to make the choice, select the
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belief that aligns with that. So
what I tell clients that want to buy
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a house, or want to get
a promotion, or want to launch a
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company and sell it to Google for
billions of dollars or whatever. There are
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certain luxuries when you work with us
at status flow that you cannot afford anymore
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right, I'm not good enough,
I don't deserve it, I'm not lovable.
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You cannot afford these luxuries of playing
small in more right, Once there
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is awareness. There is choice.
Yeah, and so let's talk about that
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whole thing of awareness really quick.
It's fascinating, right. We do so
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much stuff on autopilot, right,
The way we drive our cars, the
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way we take a shower, the
way we put our makeup, on the
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way we everything, it's on autopilot, right. So the opportunity is to
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make those beliefs conscious. Right.
See, can you say a bit about
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you know, how to how to
help people do that? Well, it's
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you know, getting help, right, I mean, because essentially what you're
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talking about is, you know,
it's it's like a mechanic working on the
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car that he or she is driving. It's very difficult to do. You've
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got to have some outside perspective.
I can tell you this much. Understanding
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how you relate to everything is a
great is a great way to start understanding
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what your beliefs are, because ultimately
the world is a mirror. It is
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reflecting back to you everything you think, everything you feel, everything you believe.
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Right, your reality is based started
right here and is being reflected back
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to you out there. So if
you want to know what you believe about
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something, look at something right,
Notice how you feel about it. The
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more you cling to a belief,
the more charge you're going to have around
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it. Just get on social media, have somebody say something you disagree with.
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There's a very strong way hope believe
demonstration number one. Yes, excellent,
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Chris. All right, let's grab
our last break here. I'm Elise
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Cortez, your host. We were
in the air with Chris King. He's
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a peak performance executive coach and motivational
speaker who has focused on truth. We've
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been talking about just what that means
to him, as well as some of
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those important navigating beliefs that help guide
whether what we get in like or whether
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we don't. After the great continue
the conversation, stay with us. We'll
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be right back. Doctor Release.
Cortez is a management consultant specializing in meaning
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and purpose and inspirational speaker and author. She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose
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among stakeholders and developed purpose inspired leadership
and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment,
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performance, and commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite a
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lease to speak to your organization,
please visit her at Elise Cortez dot com.
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Let's talk about how to get your
employees working on Purpose. This is
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Working on Purpose with doctor Relise Cortez. To reach our program today or open
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a conversation with Elise, send an
email to Elise ali se at Elise Cortez
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dot com. Now back to Working
on Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,
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and welcome back to Working on Purpose. One other rails before we get
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back to Chris, I have to
share with you that after spending about two
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years of putting together an anthology of
women's stories from around the globe, their
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story, their intimate stories, how
they've discovered their purpose, are now serving
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from it. It's now they will
on an Amazon It's called Passionately Striving and
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Why. It's twenty five stories.
And so I wrote that actually I curated
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that, I should say, to
be able to help you find a way
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to look at those pathsies they took
to find their purpose and see if that
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helps you find yours. So help
you pick a copy of that up as
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well. Also, by the way, I'm out scouting for men who I've
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discovered their purpose. I want to
share that in this collection as well.
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So if you know anybody for this
program for the initiative, let me know
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as well. If you're just joining
us. My guest today is Chris King.
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He is a peak performance executive coach
and motivational speaker who's focused on the
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truth. He's the co author of
Renegotiate Your Existence, Unlock Your Impossible Life.
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I'm your host, Doc Julie Quartez. So, Chris, just before
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we went to that last break,
we were talking about beliefs, and so
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the next thing I want to do
really quick about that because I just I
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just know the power of beliefs,
and I love that you've got a whole
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chapter devoted to this. I want
to have you talk to us a bit
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about how we can replace those outdated, unserving beliefs with more productive ones.
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How do we get rid of that
past garbage. Oh that's a tricky one
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because because we're talking about a system. You know, as you know,
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everybody's got that operating system in their
head that's been running since they were about
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six years old, right, you
know, you, you and I will
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call it a belief system, right, but it's been running since we're six
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year old. This is our understanding
of reality. Right. So so this
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doesn't really change all that easily.
And there are any number of tools to
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do this, and some of them
are very subtle. So somebody will say
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something this is true, this is
a factor, or whatever, and and
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I like, I like to play
in in the world of absolutes, because
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very little is absolute, right,
right, So when I said something,
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this is a fact, is it
absolutely true? Like you know who I
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love? I love Byron Katie's work
on this Byron Katie in the work.
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It's brilliant there She's got books and
everything. But there's four questions, right,
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So the questions are you know you
have a belief? Is this true?
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Question number one? Well, of
course it's true. This is my
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experience, this is true. Okay, great, Can I absolutely know this
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is true? Okay? Now right
there, the wheels are going to start
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to come off a little bit because
again, that absolute word gets very tricky.
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Right. The next question is what
happens when I tell this story?
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Right, Well, like the story
that I'm not good enough or I don't
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deserve it, or somebody doesn't like
me or whatever. Well, I show
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up in this way or I behave
a certain way, or I have these
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feelings, right, you know whatever? And then my favorite question number four,
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who would I be without that story? Oh? I love that?
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Yes, I know that really powerful
right. These are very simple kinds of
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things, you know, But I'll
tell you what it boils down to.
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What if you're wrong? Like,
look, I get it. It's logical.
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The neocortex is doing what it does
right, You're logical. That makes
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perfect sense. The math plays out, it agrees with your experience. It
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makes sense. And what if you're
wrong? There is a way you can
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do that? What if there is
a way that you could improve your life
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work balance. What if there is
a way that you could take more time
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off or not have to do emails
on vacation. What if you're wrong?
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Can your ego handle that? Because
I'll tell you what. I asked this
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question of my clients all the time. Do you want to be right or
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do you want to be effective?
Do you want to be right or do
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you want to be happy? Do
you want to be right or do you
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want to actually get what you say
you want? Are you willing to be
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wrong in order to do it?
Nicely? Illustrated? I certainly recognize and
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in the phrase, and I'm sure
I did it myself. You know well.
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The fact of the matter is,
you know wow, And so I
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love you. You're saying and would
you say are you sure you're and what
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if you're wrong? What if you're
wrong? And what if you're wrong?
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Right? Because it's quote you know
what I said in the book too.
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You know, if you argue,
if you argue for your limitations, you
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get to keep them, right,
you want good? Right? Okay,
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you're right. Congratulations, you're right. You still have terrible life work balance,
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right, Yeah, and you're never
gonna be amount to anything. You're
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right. Perfect, Let's celebrate,
right, right? Yeah, aren't you
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glad? You're right? You're right. The problem that the rest of my
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life is not quite what I wanted
to be? Yeah. Yeah, let's
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let's rewrite that story, shall we. Right. So, another thing that
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you said that was really interesting when
we first spoke, as you mentioned to
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me sort of in passing, and
I thought it was interesting. You said
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that you generally find people that you
you who seek out to work with you.
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That if you look at the gender
division, is that men are looking
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for for success and women are looking
for relief. I think that's really interesting.
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Can you say more about those general
trends? Yeah, So I'm gonna
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use binary genders because number one,
it's it's ease of conversation. Number two.
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It's statistically accurate. So so the
men that that approach us are it's
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the way that men and women seem
to, in my experience, in the
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experience of the organization, relate to
their worlds and their work. Okay,
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as a man of my generation,
I am pretty high on my priority list,
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like top three. I'm a gen
X or top three most of the
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time, right, yeah. Yeah. A woman in our target demos say,
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you know, mid thirties to early
fifties, she is dead last on
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her priority list. Yeah, everything
else the job and the kids, and
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the house, and her mom and
the car, and then all the things
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come first, and she ends up
getting leftovers of her own life. So
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men come to us, their business
owners. They want more efficiency, more
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productivity, more it's very masculine drive, more success as they define that.
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Women are looking for more relief.
And one of my teachers, doctor Robert
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Holden, says something that's so beautiful, and I've used this as and it
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says, if it seems like there's
something missing from your life, it's probably
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you. Oh that's great. Yes. So the women that come to us,
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and that's why I phrase it is
life work balance. They need better
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life work balance, not work life
balance, but life work balance, like
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their businesses and their lives are running
them instead of the other way around.
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The hamster will completely turned that around, right back in the driver's seat of
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empowerment. So I want to I
want to give a phrase that I've used
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before, Chris, and listeners and
viewers just listen to this because it's it's
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really got some power, especially if
you find yourself at the bottom of the
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heap. So if you are literally
settling for the used coffee grounds of your
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own life, yet you serve a
fresh browed cup of yourself to everyone else
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you encounter, what's going on here? Who's winning here used coffee grounds of
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your own life? Or putting that
up with somebody else that you expect to
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be on a higher playing field with
you. That is such a powerful I
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love coffee, by the way,
but you know when I look at those
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grounds that get thrown away in the
garbage can at the end, at the
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end of the experience, it's not
where I want to be, right,
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And therein lies the reflection. Remember
I said the world is a mirror,
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right, So what is this reflecting
back to you? What is the script
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that drives that that paradigm. I
don't deserve it. They're more important.
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My needs are less than like,
look at what we're telling ourselves through the
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lens of Oh, I'm so generous. No, there's no, there's no
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nobility in being the martyr. Okay, that's a victim construct. We don't
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do victim here ever, right,
So being the martyr is not you know,
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it's the aircraft thing. Put your
mask on first, right, right?
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Well, and I think there's also
this other thing right that. So
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I'm sure you encounter this all the
time, Chris, it's the whole imposter
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syndrome. But what if people see
what if people reckonnist? I really shouldn't
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be doing this job. I really
don't know what I'm doing. And you
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know something, there's this idea that
I don't really deserve this anyway, right,
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I mean, I know you encounter
that. Yeah, that's we run
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into imposters. I mean, shoot, I've done it right, Like I
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was locked into that for years.
You know, even when I started working
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in the Neuroscience Institute, there were
these people there were way above me in
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terms of pedigree, in terms of
tenure, and there were some people that
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were doing like even the corporate organization. I mean, you know how corporate
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works. Corporate doesn't always do the
smartest things right. And I was like,
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there's got to be somebody smarter than
me up that food chain that seems
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how dumb this is and apparently not
right, you know, so, and
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I'll tell you there's And again it's
all about tools, you know, for
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us in my organization, it's all
about what are the tools that we need
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to use right to start employing.
And so if somebody is saying, oh,
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I'm not good enough for a Honda
a Chord, I'm just going to
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go for that Honda Civic. I
said, if you're telling yourself you're not
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good enough for the Honda of Chord, launch up to that Mercedes, I
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go the other way with this,
you know, yeah, I just I
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so appreciate the empowerment stands. And
then another thing that we have to talk
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about, because this is working on
purpose after all, is you said to
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me in the exchange that we had
that you do not use the word purpose,
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but rather you prefer to help people
align with their own magnetic north is
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just delicious. So say more about
that. Well, look, I don't
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have advice for anybody nobody is qualified
to tell you what to do. I
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know a lot of people think there
are right and look, there are consultants,
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you know. And what I say
to people is, look, if
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when you don't know what you don't
know, hire a consultant. When you
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don't know what you do know,
hire a coach. Because consultants have answers,
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coaches have questions. And it's all
about a listening insight because as as
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we sit here right now, you
have every answer to every question, every
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solution to every problem that you are
ever going to run into for your entire
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life is in there somewhere. So
it's not a question of knowing or not
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knowing. It's a question of access. I don't have to figure out your
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answer for you, because you have
it. What I got to figure out
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is what's the barrier? What is
stopping you from accessing what you don't know?
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You know? And once we figure
out how to access that, what
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do I need to do to support
you in relating to that and then aligning
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it with the outcome that you're looking
for. I'm not in the advice business.
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The coaches that work for me are
not in the advice business. We
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are here to figure out how to
give you, how do you get you
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to give you your advice and then
support you if you're doing what you don't
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already know you need to do,
but you're about to find out. Yeah.
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And the other thing that I think
that that that we both do because
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I do more consulting inside of organizations
than I do coaching, So we have
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a complement charity here. But what
I also find is that when I'm working
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with my leaders, even one on
one, if I'm doing a programs at
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an organization and then I also work
for leaders, what I find is that
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when we have our time together are
if you want to call it a coaching
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session, what I find is that
that session alone, that time that they've
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set aside for themselves already is an
opening for them because they don't usually do
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that for themselves. Right, So
this is a this is a it's a
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dance floor that they don't usually allow
themselves to step onto. So already there's
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a different there's all there's a different
listening for themselves. There's a different listening
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to me and to our exchange.
Right, It's just it's it is,
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It's glorious. It's a glorious place
to get to be with somebody. Yeah,
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yeah, it really is. You
get access in a way that most
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people don't. Well, you know
what I've come to understand from me,
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Chris, is what I what I
realized is that I want to. I
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want I want to. I want
to chew on the barrel the marrow of
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the bone of life, right,
I want the substance. And so these
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conversations are intimate. You know,
there's we're not talking about superficial things that
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anybody can talk about. We're talking
about the intimate stuff of their lives and
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their hopes and their dreams. That's
where I want to be. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's that's where the magic
is. That's where the brilliance is.
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That's that's where the truth is.
M back to that beautiful work truth.
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Okay, so we're coming to the
clothes here. It happens. It goes
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by so fast, especially when we
have a good, interesting, lively,
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energetic conversation like this. Of course, so people off the atmosphere sometimes Yeah,
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yeah, no, I love it. It's great. So I have
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one have two more questions for you. This next question is, you know,
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if you have another story or something
else you can share with us,
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because those stories gives us give an
asset access to how it is that you
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help people, what they present when
they try to get enrolled with you and
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help from you. Another story maybe, well, I had a client that
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you know, I want to tell
a different one. Actually it's very similar.
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There's some that are there, the
really hard kind of stuff. I
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have a client right now and we're
about I think we're about halfway through,
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you know, the committed program,
and he's he's about he's about my age,
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about fifty, and he's he's sort
of been on this hamster wheel in
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his personal life in terms of dating. He still had a very youthful orientation
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towards it, and you know,
there's there's just some alignment problems with really,
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how do I say this locking in
somebody that is aligned with the lifestyle
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that he's looking for, and you
know, because he wants it, wants
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stable, it wants grounded and all
this kind of stuff. But he kept
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chasing after really dysfunctional, toxic relationships. And now there are a lot of
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assumptions we can make about his child
or whatever. Ultimately it boils down to
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his relationship with his father. Strangely
enough, so it was this approval seeking
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kind of thing, right, And
so when he realized, you know what,
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I'm going to insert myself into a
situation that and into a framework where
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I'm going to be with a toxic
person who will never approve of me,
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that I can continue to chase the
approval and never get it. Because this
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was his relationship with his father,
right. His father died less than a
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year ago. So now he's introducing
people to replace Dad, to be the
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disapproval kind of thing. And here's
the weird thing, right, is that
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part of what seems like it might
be happening right now is that this piece
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of him is really scared of the
ego death. And I know you understand
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this, right, the ego,
because what happens when the chase for approval
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is over, that piece has no
purpose according to that piece, right,
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that aspect of his of his persona, and is going to resist that.
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It's going to survival, right,
This little piece of his psyche needs to
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survive. So it needs to be
on the hamster wheale. It's like,
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look, maybe it's time, right, Maybe maybe it's time to let dad
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go. Maybe it's time to let
this go, maybe, you know.
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And so he's in a really uncomfortable
place right now, and it's a real
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soft spot. And it's so beautiful
to watch this strong, you know,
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burly guy. He's just man's man. You know he can slam two by
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fours together and just be in this
soft, beautiful space where he's so gentle
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with himself. It's just watching his
transformation is just such. It's the most
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honoring thing I can think of.
I can't imagine doing anything else with my
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life. It's such. I'm so
honored to witness this stuff. Chris.
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That's so beautiful. What a great
way to finish where we're at the close
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here, but this show is to
listen to by people around the world.
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What would I like to leave them
with saying like fifteen seconds or so fifteen
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seconds what if you're wrong? Ah, great way to finish, beautiful,
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Chris. You are a delight and
a gift to the world. I'm so
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glad to know you and have you
in my life. Thank you for being
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on the show and sharing yourself,
your thoughts, in your heart with our
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listeners and viewers across the world.
My pleasure. Thank you so much for
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having me. It's been a pleasure
absolutely. Listeners and viewers. If you
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want to learn more about Chris King, his work, his book, start
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by visiting his website status flow dot
net. Last week, we missed the
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live show you always catch it be
your recorded podcast. We run there with
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doctor Rick Garlic talking about some of
the factors contributing to the great resignation plaguing
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organizations across the world, and how
pride in the work we do elevates engagement
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and performance. Next week, we'll
be in there with Amy Herman talking about
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her book Fixed to To, How
to perfect the fine art of problem solving.
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See you there. Remember that works
at least a third of our life.
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So let's work on purpose. We
hope you've enjoyed this week's program.
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Be sure to tune into Working on
Purpose featuring your host, Doctor Elise Cortez,
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each week on the Voice America Empowerment
Channel. Together, we'll create a
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world where business operates conscientiously, leadership
inspires impassioned performance, and employees are fulfilled
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in work that provides the meaning and
purpose they crave. See you there,
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Let's work on Purpose.





















































