The Science of Purpose, Its Expression Potentials, and Our Cosmos

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be

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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want.

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Working on Purpose now. Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortes.

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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose
program. Thanks for joining it again this

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week. I'm your host, doctor
Luis Cortez. Join you live from Dallas,

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Texas. By way of introduction,
if you don't know me, I'm

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a management consult specialize and meeting in
purpose, organizational logo therapists, inspirational speaker,

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social scientist and author. There are
many ways we can work together.

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You can check me out at at
leastcore test dot com, orgustodashnow dot com

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to learn how, and there are
some free resources for you as well.

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There. I you've been tuning in
for a while, you know this program

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from distinguished business leaders, authors and
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inspirational leaders in enlivening workplaces where we

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can thrive into business that betters the
world. Glad you're here with us today.

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Is Brandon Peel, and Midwesterner,
author, impact entrepreneur, and an

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expert in purpose, leadership and culture
change. He's the founder of Unity Lab

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and the author of Planet on Purpose, Your Guide to genuine prosperity, authentic

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leadership, and a better world.
We'll be talking about the science behind purpose,

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the discovery and expression of purpose,
and the reformation of purpose amongst some

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nations today. He joins today from
San Diego. Brandon, welcome to Working

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on Purpose. It's great to be
here, so great to have you.

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And as I said to you before
we came on air together, you are

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brilliant and I'm very very happy to
have read your book cover to cover and

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get exposed to that fine mind of
yours. It's beautiful in there, and

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I know it's been through a lot, so to kick us off here,

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I just think it would be amazing
you were so open about your story and

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your past and your journey your book, which I really appreciated, But give

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us a glimpse. I mean,
I consider that you were in a bit

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of an existential search for meeting and
purpose. If we could say that,

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and you went thrashing about the world
to discover it, would you say a

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little bit just for our listeners and
viewers to understand just where you've come from.

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I know we don't have time to
cover at all, but let's get

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a smattering. Yeah, well so
I could, certainly. I don't even

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know where to begin. But I
was raised in the Midwest, and as

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you probably know, purpose isn't a
big conversation right now in the Midwest,

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or at least it wasn't when I
was growing up in the eighties and I

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was lost. I kind of,
you know, did everything I was supposed

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to do, probably like you,
you know, played sports, dated the

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cheerleaders, went to the good school, got a good job, and by

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the time I was in my late
twenties, I was like, if this

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is success, I don't want to
like this, like eighty hours a week

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floating between Excel PowerPoint Like no,
now, I don't mean to take it

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that away because for a lot of
people that's like very fulfilling, but for

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me, it was just like I
think I am successful according to this old

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game, but it wasn't me.
And so you know, as I shared

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in the book, I threw myself
into drugs and alcohol and had a six

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state arrest record by the time I
was twenty eight. And yeah, luckily

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I had the good fortune to begin
to do self awareness work, which is

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something that most folks don't typically get
to until their thirties, forties, fifties,

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and so I it was very fortunate
to begin that journey in my twenties.

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Well, and I want, if
I can, and listeners and viewers

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just look at this man and listen
to this man, right, So the

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presence is just so beautiful, and
I just want to really applaud you for

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the work that you've done at the
age that you have and you, from

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what I can tell, Brandon,
you really are an expert in purpose and

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that comes from someplace. So I
really appreciate and listeners and viewers, you

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just got to pick up the book. The journey this man has been on

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is incredible, So thank you Brandon
for sharing it as beautiful as you did

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and being who you are if I'm
thrilled to be on this path with you.

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So I learned a lot from you
too by reading your book. And

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one of the things I think is
really interesting about the work we both get

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to do in the purpose space is
a lot of people out there tend to

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believe that either you have discovered a
purpose or you haven't. It's just sort

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of an honor and off switch.
And of course you know better than that

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because you've written about it. And
so I think it would be really interesting

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for our listeners and viewers to hear
you narrate those four phases or stages that

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you talk about. Yeah, so
there are some folks for whom they don't

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even know that purpose is a thing, and that doesn't mean they're not living

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their purpose. So we all have
values, we all have an essence,

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a way of being that people know
that we're being truly ourselves. So it's

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always available to everybody in that sense. Now, once we start to name

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purpose and say, okay, there's
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goes through your life, your seat
assignment here on Earth, then there's kind

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of some more stages available. First, or say The second stage is that

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declared purpose. You just say,
hey, I have decided I'm going to

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be VP of my company or the
number one mom or you know, you

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just make up it up. Essentially, you saw somebody else's purposes and I

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kind of want to be that,
and so you declare it. And it

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comes very much from a place preference
or ego level, and there's nothing wrong

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with that. And some of the
most highly successful people in the world are

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like stage two ego level purpose folks
name names because there's a lot of controversy

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out there around a lot of these
folks. Now, once folks get enough

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success on their ego purpose, you
know, kind of how I mentioned in

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my twenties where okay, I got
a job in investment banking, traveling a

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lot pretty girlfriends. Okay, my
ego is kind of a lot of cards.

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It doesn't really know where to go
from here. And sometimes, you

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know, there's breakdowns. There's purpose
crises where people are like, you know,

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I've I got a DUI, or
I got divorced, or I lost

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my job or something bad happened.
But that's usually where the call is heard,

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like there's something more for me than
just this success machine. Like I'm

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I'm something else. It can happen
otherwaise too, but it happens in the

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United States usually through that lens.
Like I've done everything I can do with

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my tiny little brain. I need
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my soul, into the world and
in some way that's meaningful. And that's

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where we at the stage three.
And that's basically authentic purpose, sole purpose,

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higher purpose, whatever you want to
say. Now, once you have

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enough time on task living from your
higher purpose, you tend to And I'm

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only speaking theoretically based on what I've
studied and the folks who I've interviewed and

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talked to, because I am not
at stage four, but there are people

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who are there, and I've had
the good fortune to meet with them,

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and they essentially inhabit the world differently. They are essentially stewards of the human

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condition. They're fully responsible. So
they don't look at anything out there it

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says that's wrong, that shouldn't be
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like, Okay, that thing has
a purpose and it either is fulfilling on

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it or it is not. And
this unified purpose or unity level purpose is

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where most spiritual paths actually get to. But this particular path is one that

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is through your sole purpose, your
higher purpose, beautiful rendition. And let

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me to one of our listeners here
who's on listening, who just said,

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this is a really great information,
Doctor Wantimore, thank you for listening in

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and being with us. Yes,
it is great information, and thanks for

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being with us. So I want
to get to the science piece. You

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are very uniquely competent, if you
will, or uniquely qualified to be a

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purpose guide because of just really how
much you've dug into the science. And

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your book is extremely meaty and full
of science. We won't have time to

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get into all the areas, but
if we can, if we can start

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with the science behind career and we
have time to hit all the other some

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of the other ones, I'll queue
you up. But let's start there Science

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behind a Career. Yeah, I
mean this essentially comes down to some very

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old wisdom. So my book,
the Science of Purpose, none of it.

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There's nothing new under the sun.
Like it's literally saying, if you

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are yourself, you are going to
be more successful. Now, since most

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people don't know themselves, they've been
trying to become some version of success that

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is, you know, maybe a
line, but likely not, they're just

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trying to become somebody else. So
the science of purpose is really straightforward here.

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If you discover your higher purpose and
you have a life and career that

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is aligned with that, you're more
likely to be fulfilled at work, You're

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more likely to make more money,
you're going to have a longer tenure,

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you're going to have a greater impact, you have more meaningful relationships, you're

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more content, And basically what it
comes down to is you don't see your

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career or really any of the circumstances
as existentially threatening because you have your own

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narrative going on, like hey,
I'm just showing up doing my thing,

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empowering those people to do their thing. And the result is I just tend

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to be the one that gets picked
for the promotion, or it gets hired

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a way to start a new company, or it just happens to meet somebody

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on a plane. Because when people
are aligned, they're exuding that kind of

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authentic energy, that essence, and
that's who people want to work with and

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that's who gets picked. You know, how I discovered this, granted was

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from my PhD, which is in
human development. I studied the relations between

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identity and meaning and work. And
then I expanded it greatly to a bigger

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audience, and I found these fifteen
modes of engagement, which included the levels

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of meaning, kinds of meaning,
and then of course the relationship between the

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person and the work. And one
of those modes that I discovered is called

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living your purpose. And people who
talk about who exhibit that particular mode describe

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their work as it's incredibly meaningful,
very very very fulfilling, very high levels

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of value and meaning, and their
work is inseparable from who they are.

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There's no they can't distinguish the work
from themselves or the person from the work.

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And so when I did that research, I wasn't experiencing that mode.

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I was experiencing this self actualizing mode, which is a few below it.

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And then one day accidentally it came
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my purpose, and because I have
gone along, it was amazing, Right,

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But just exactly what you're saying that
however, you said, that congruence

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or that authenticity, that alignment is
really interesting. Yeah, and it's not

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always there either, like it kind
of comes in and out almost like the

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old TVs. For you know,
you just personal I remember, but you

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had to kind of like tune them
and and and I find myself off purpose

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all the time. My wife will
tell you that I was like, what,

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who are you? Stop? Brandon
back? All right, But the

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idea is like if you if you
put conscious awareness to it, at least

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you you know what it feels like
when you're on people who love you and

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stand for you know that too,
and then show up that way. Well,

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one of the things that you said
in the book just ri if we

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can coverage really quick. I found
this really, really quite interesting and just

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recently had a couple of discoveries is
you will also talk about the science of

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purpose in health. That is fascinating
to me. So share for our listeners

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and viewers how that works. So
I'll just share a couple causal data points

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here. And again I'm not a
medical person. I do not have a

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PhD or an MD or I'm just
relaying what the smart people have said,

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and uh that essentially when people know
their purpose, they they experience less stress

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because they're not, like I said, not reacting to the environment out there

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so much, but they're generating from
their purpose. And so their personal narrative

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is like oh okay, everything's fine. I didn't win this one, but

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I'll try it differently tomorrow, as
opposed to oh my god, everything's terrible.

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Queue the court is all, you
know, Queue the adrenaline, and

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those are the things actually aid you. So they tear down the walls of

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your cells, shorten error, and
damage the telomeres that your dnaight strands.

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And what they found is that folks
who know the purpose have lower levels of

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cholesterol, healthier telomere strands, healthy
cellular walls, and they live longer,

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up to seven years longer. So
it's essentially a best purpose or a best

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practice in life, up there with
yoga and eight hours of sleep and eating

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well and being nice to people.
And it's just not something that you know,

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a lot of people know about.
There's a guy up in Michigan,

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Vick Strecker. Maybe have her of
his work, yes, said. He

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says, if people knew the benefits
of purpose, it would be the wonder

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drug of the millennium. And literally
it's like career, health, love,

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life, society, like everything gets
better when when people fulfill on who they

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are. Yeah. Well, and
then what I also found really really compelling

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because I did know those stats,
right. I knew all those other things

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that you talked about before, But
the part that was new for me that

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you wrote about, Brandon, was
that when we're really living and working from

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our purpose, that we naturally start
to let go of things that actually diminish

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our health. We don't want them
anymore, they don't serve us anymore.

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And so you talk about how your
aunt Katie stops smoking cigarettes after what forty

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years of smoking cigarettes because she got
more connected to why in the world she's

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here. And I think that is
profound, I mean just profound, Brandon.

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Yeah, I mean I was blown
away. I had just started my

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career as a guide and my aunt's
like, hey, will you guide me?

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I'm like, of course, of
course. And then you know,

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if we did our work, calls
me U nine months She's like, I

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quit smoking. I'm like what,
yeah, I mean my people Midwest,

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just who she was. And I'm
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it's just stupid. I don't need
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what my life is about. I'm
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She hasn't smoked that they can eight
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is amazing. Ladies and gentlemen,
listen to this. This purpose stuff works.

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I'm telling you, it's just amazing. It's phenomenal. I want to

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quickly cover, if we can before
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bit about the science of purpose in
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say more about that as we go
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you can queue that up. Wow, this is the part that gets me

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most excited, especially here in the
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of non purpose level identities around ethnicity, around politics, around you know,

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boomer's versus millennial, urban versus rural. So basically, what purpose does is

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it loosens those ties that aren't your
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so you begin to show up in
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society. So people who know the
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engaged in civic organizations philanthropy. They're
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in a diverse area because they're not
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hey, you're a human, I'm
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place. That's weird. Cool.
Let's talk about it as opposed to like,

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ah, get away. Yeah,
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magic. And Brandon, I'm so
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away from you, you know that. Right. Let's grab our first break.

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I'm Alice Corte as your host.
We were in there with Brandon Peel,

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a Midwesterner, author, impact entrepreneur, and an expert in purpose leadershi

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and culture change. He's the founder
of Unity Lab and the author of Planet

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on Purpose, Your Guide to genuine
prosperity, authentic leadership, and a better

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World. We've been talking a bit
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got into the purpose base, his
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that he knows about purpose. After
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the discovery and expression of purpose.
Stay with us, We'll be right back.

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Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant
specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational

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speaker and author. She helps companies
visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop

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purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures
that elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment

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within the workforce. To learn more
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organization, please visit her at Eleasecoortes
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get your employees working on purpose.
This is working on Purpose with doctor Cortes.

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To reach our program today or open
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email to a Lease Alic at Aleasecortes
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purpose. Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to working on purpose.

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I'm doctor Lease Cortes. For those
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pandemic guy, I had a baby. Yes it's a book, don't get

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worried. Wait a minute, don't
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I do. It's called Purpose Ignited, and I really wrote the book to

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awaken readers to their passionate inspiration and
purpose and help create them foundationally as an

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inspirational leader. And it's so much
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next book, Brandon, So as
you know, right, which is more

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more about activating it. But so
happy you're with us. Brandon Peel,

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done a lot of work. I've
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talking about purpose, and you are
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your your expertise. I'm really happy
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through leadership of purpose. It's really
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you one of the things that you
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understanding is the criticality of embracing our
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don't think most people really understand how
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Why is it so important to do
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but for folks who aren't, there's
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like this you know, singular thing, you know, like a tablet that

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was given to you by your creator
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of it. So one of them
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anyway is heartbreak. It's the call. It's like the core need that you

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were deprived of or it was taken
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really important. We want to make
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you know, one of my favorite
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your wound. You got to go
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like, oh my god, this
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world where people don't get that.
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it's all about blessing. It's all
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really am. Growing up in the
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was shamed every time I try to
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get back, get back in line. But for those it's much more serious

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stuff around power, pretty abuse,
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start to pull those threads and heal
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name them. And then once we're
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oh wow, this I'm more whole
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create that same thing for others.
That is so powerful brandon and beautifully or

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what I want to say, elocute
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not let's make it up. Probably
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Purpose Rising that you have a chapter
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well. Loved it. You talk
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you say they must be uncovered in
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to three. Can you share at
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so they start to really uncover this
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get you about eighty percent of the
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important and they round out the picture. But as soon as we get kind

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of who we are at our core, like our essence. As soon as

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we understand our story can powerfully tell
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I worthy? Like, yeah,
you survive the heck of a lot,

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you're worthy story piece, then the
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are meant to contribute? You knows? Tim Kelly that I wrote the forward

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in my book Esteemed Tightening this Space
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a blessing, a craft, an
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can be something as simple as helping
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to another, or turning a craft
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a piece of furniture into something that's
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in a unique way. So those
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fun. Those aspects of flow that
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me, I have aspects of my
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heartbreak, my vision for the world, my life story. I can't explain

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it, it's just true, right, Like I love singing karaoke. I

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don't know why I love it.
It makes no sense. I love whales,

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I love watching my wife sleep,
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with who I am on a day
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just want you want it. It's
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to develop. So our vision for
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terms of the vision that I want
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and we're collaborating from that place,
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purpose tree in the book, that
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around your your virtues and your and
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the world. So it's being pulled
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from your heartbreak, from your vision, and then it gets expressed in terms

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of your craft, in terms of
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really appreciate how you articulate that in
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useful. And the other thing that
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whenever I have conversations about purpose is
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doing looking for it, doing the
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reason that I wrote that first book
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run and I would ask people,
what are you passionate about? What are

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you most passionate about? And do
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when I would ask that question across
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they would realize, I don't know
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if you don't know, if you
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you probably don't know your purpose.
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this, right. So you and
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arm in this it's just so important
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It's amazing. And then both of
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leaders, and so I think it
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to also share how purposes expressed differently
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in the first segment. Yeah,
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too much detail or our listeners with
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the book. But I do want
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it, I like to say,
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said this first, so I can't
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but that without without purpose, there
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I'm just cracking whips, characters taking
people towards some goal, and you

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may care about it, you may
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has done that inner work, who
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and can communicate with everybody not only
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speaking for the purpose of everybody on
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opportunities for those those folks who self
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to work. But they're standing for
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purposeful leadership, and that's always talking
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why behind everything we're doing, not
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this matters, how it's going to
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change the environment, how it's going
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is. So always telling the story
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like we are moving this this whole
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one player throwing a football. It's
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something we all care about. So
I'll pause there, But if you want

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to go into greater detail on the
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who's not, you know, yeah, I probably should have started on the

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personal front first, but I went
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what you said about this whole notion
of weaving the context into all of those

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into all the actions. That's it
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right, to be able to do
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to be conscious to be aware of
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what you said about you know that
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isn't leadership. And I had a
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ago, Tim Spiker, and he
talks about how someone with an unexamined life

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is not worth following, right,
why would we follow someone who hasn't examined

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their life anyway? Just really interesting
stuff. So maybe what will be useful

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Anne Schiffler said here she's on online listening

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to us. She says, the
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thought it like that before. So
another gift for you an thanks to Brandon.

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just kind of talk about the expression
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you're essentially an employee consumer, you
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want to do and moving towards things
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much ego kind of preference, and
there's nothing wrong with it. It's just

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you know, if you don't know, you don't know if you're not bad.

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I want to be successful. I'm

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going to be good at at the
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little bit of that motivation. You
getting your PhD. You're like, I'm

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good, I'm getting those letters.
I'm going for it. I want to

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study this thing and I want to
achieve my full potential. And that's and

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that's a huge initiation to be able
to like throw yourselves against the rocks of

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your advisors and steering committee and all
that kind of stuff. I mean,

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it's it's no joke. So I'm
not discounting kind of level two uh purpose

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at all. And and folks who
are showing up at that level are it

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was, you know, basically what
I preferred to early, like managers,

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just regular folks who are trying to
get ahead by playing the rules of somebody

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else's game. Yeah, it's not
a bad thing. Now once we start

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to awaken our purpose, that's where
we become essentially impact entrepreneurs or social entrepreneurs

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or agents of change, because we
know that there is a unique message,

417
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a unique gift to bring to the
world, and that it doesn't fit in

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anybody else's organization or job description.
And I'm just say something might seem a

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little shocking, like there's no such
thing as a doctor or a teacher,

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or a neurse or a mechanic.
Those are expressions of somebody's purpose. And

421
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so once we activate our identity,
those roles, those for profit roles or

422
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you know, career roles are expressions
of who we are, so we have

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some agency from them. We're not
identified with that role, and our only

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care and concern is I must be
fully self expressed. I must serve people

425
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from my highest good and that's it. That's it. And if I if

426
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I win, great, If I
lose, great, I get up and

427
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play the game again tomorrow. You
know. So these are folks who you

428
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know, you see them, they're
you know, many of the folks who

429
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have started and run b corpse,
many of the folks who identify as conscious

430
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capitalists, they've they've started things and
sorted to do or build businesses, build

431
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organizations that are seeking to have an
impact first, a profit second. Now,

432
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like I said, after many many
years time on task, they then

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kind of graduate into my purpose is
the purpose of humanity and all of existence.

434
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And I see folks who I judge, And again I'm not a scientist

435
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like you and Holly, but I
judge folks like I Lead Fisher, Chip

436
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Conley, Ivan Chunard from Patagonia.
You folks who have been at it for

437
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years, it's not decades, throwing
themselves against the rocks, trying to live

438
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their soul's purpose. Yeah, and
they show up as true, genuine elders

439
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of this very fragile spaceship. And
these are the folks who I aspire to

440
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be. I'm not there, but
I aspire to be them, and I

441
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:08.079
have lots of work ahead of me. That is just brilliant, Brandon.

442
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:12.039
Let me just say, as a
logo therapist, that's existential psychology doctor Pittufrankle's

443
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work. What we're really doing in
logo therapy is, among many other things,

444
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.720
is helping people to presence meaning in
the everyday moments, because meaning is

445
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.680
that ultimate thing that we're after,
and it's the motivation, it's the key

446
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.519
motivational force. And this is really
important that we are at our best as

447
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.160
human beings when we experience that dynamic
tension between who we are today and who

448
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.759
we're striving to become tomorrow. So
that you're striving to become a level for

449
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a stage four as am. I. Of course, there's there's health in

450
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that, there's spirit in that,
there's energy in that, there's thriving in

451
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that. So I just really want
to celebrate for you and for our listeners

452
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that you know there's there's wonder in
the striving, and it's it's it's a

453
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terrific part of health. So to
striving. And with that, let's grab

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our last break. All right,
I'm Malice Cortez, your host. We've

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been in the area with Brandon Peel. He is a Westerner author, impact

456
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entrepreneur, and an expert in purpose, leadership and culture change. He is

457
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the founder of Unity Lab and the
author of Purpose on a Planet on Purpose,

458
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Your Guide to genuine prosperity, authentic
leadership, and a better world.

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Stay with us, will be right
back. Afterwards, We're going to talk

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about purpose and cosmic awareness and the
purposeful reformation of nations. Really good meaty

461
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.039
stuff. Stee with us will be
right back. Doctor Elise Cortes is a

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management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose
and inspirational speaker and author. She helps

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companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders
and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused

464
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:44.680
cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,
and commitment within the workforce. To learn

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more or to invite a lease to
speak to your organization, please visit her

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00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:52.519
at Elisecoortes dot com. Let's talk
about how to get your employees working on

467
00:32:52.559 --> 00:33:05.039
purpose. This is working on Purpose
with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our

468
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:10.039
program today or open a conversation with
Elise, send an email to Alise Alise

469
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:22.319
at elisecortes dot com. Now back
to working on purpose. Thanks for stating

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with us, and welcome back to
working on purpose. Another announcement that came

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out of the pandemic was we launched
Gusto now, which is an online e

472
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learning platform. And how that came
about was I wanted to go back and

473
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:36.880
look for other ways that I could
be of service, and I realized that

474
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I love speaking Spanish and Portuguese because
I lived in Spain and Brazil. So

475
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:44.759
now all my courses are in Spanish, English and Portuguese, So that was

476
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.599
fun. If you're just joining us, guess my guest is Brandon Peel.

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He is the author of A Planet
on Purpose and also the founder of Unity

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Lapse. We've been talking about his
book is some of the work that he's

479
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been doing. Now we want to
get into something even what I consider to

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be some of the best meat of
your book and certainly in alignment with some

481
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of my emerging interest Brandon, and
that's this what notion of what I would

482
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call this sort of cosmic awareness that
seems to be happening for a lot of

483
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us. And so to get into
this. One of the things that I

484
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that I found really interesting is as
I was reading Purpose Rising in other books

485
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as well that you have a chapter
in, I also was told about a

486
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documentary called My Octopus Teacher. Have
you seen that chance? Oh, it's

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amazing, it's fantastic. I have
seen it seven times. And the reason

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why is because there's something there,
There's more to it there. And what

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it really gave me, Brandon,
was really what I think you're talking about

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towards the end of your book is
this notion of you know, this this

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this awareness across the universe, and
that we all are tapped into and can

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contribute and are contributing to whether we
are conscious of it or not. So

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I wanted to talk a little bit
about just kind of you know, this,

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this whole notion here of that,
and I want I want you to

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if you would. I don't even
know where this came from for you,

496
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but this is fairly recent for me. But I guess i'd like you to

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talk about where did this come in
your journey? How long have you been

498
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aware of this, Where did it
come from? What is how is it

499
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registering for you? And how would
you all hit this thing that I'm calling

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it? Yeah, I mean so
there's a couple of things. Well,

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just from the craft of purpose,
it's often talked about as the bridge between

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the soul and the world, So
like your soul and the world. Now,

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individual purpose discovery work is pretty much
focused on the individual. You know,

504
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like who you are, what you
created, what you care about,

505
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:49.440
what breaks your heart, the world
you want to create, but very little

506
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.719
attention is usually paid to the exterior
world. And if the world is going

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like this, which it was going
like this in twenty sixteen, seventeen eighteen

508
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.440
when I was writing this book and
it's totally going like this right now.

509
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So we're stretching a bridge between individual
souls and a chaotic world. So we

510
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have to spend some of our time
as leaders, definitely. And I would

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also argue that every human being needs
to be in relationship to the heartbreak out

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there in the world, inquiring into
what actually is reality. And I would

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say maybe fifteen years ago to discovered
the work of Ken Wilbur and you know

514
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.719
it just that there are holes within
holes. Everything has got a purpose,

515
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Like every piece of my cell serve
has its own purpose and also serves the

516
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purpose of that cell, and that
cell serves the purpose of the organ,

517
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and the organ serves the purpose of
the body. The body serves the purpose

518
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of the different units I'm associated with, my marriage, my community, the

519
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:58.760
organizations I serve, you know all
that. And so if we take that

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view that there's purpose all the way
up and all the way down, who

521
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we are as a species needs to
be in relationship to that. And so

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we inhabit this planet. And basically
what I you know, I'd start to

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share in part three of my book
is because I've never done purpose work on

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a planet. I have colleagues who
do it on nations. But I was

525
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like, Okay, well, if
I was to do the purpose of the

526
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earth, the purpose of humanity,
what might that look like? And so

527
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I just kind of you deduced that, you know, who we are based

528
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on our relationship to all these larger
holes is some kind of steward, some

529
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kind of medium point, as I
shared in the book, where literally the

530
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average size of the in the whole
cosmos, where the Goldilocks condition of medium

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averageness to be able to appreciate everything
all the way down and all the way

532
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up, or at at least our
vantage point is uniquely situated in that way.

533
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We also have the highest energy rate
density throughput, so like a human

534
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:15.119
being is crazy unique. We use
and expel more energy than anything else in

535
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the cosmos. We are like literally
the most complex thing thus far. I

536
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mean, who knows what else is
out there. I shared some of that,

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some of the thinking that says we're
probably not alone. You know,

538
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there's a lot of research on that. But basically, to orient ourselves as

539
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a species, we have to understand
where we sit within those nested holes,

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and so we have to have some
understanding of the purpose of the cosmos,

541
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the purpose of the Earth's ecosystem and
the purpose of humanity within that ecosystem.

542
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So that's where we kind of get
to this idea of Cosmo sapien. And

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I think it was Brian's Swim,
very sexy term, by the way,

544
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And who knows, Actually I think
I saw this was maybe four or five

545
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years ago, because I initially started
writing a book called Cosmo Sapient maybe seven

546
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eight years ago. But I saw
a book that was called something Cosmosapient.

547
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I'm like, all right, it's
out there. Great people are talking about

548
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.599
it. Who knows if they mean
the same thing. But but Brian Swim,

549
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who teaches up at California Institute for
Integral Studies it has written a number

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of beautiful books, has basically said
that if we take this long view to

551
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really try to understand what it means
to inhabit this cosmos, it's very hard

552
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to deny that the cosmos is alive, because there is life in the cosmos,

553
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and we have seen so much organic
matter, and you know, like

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I said, we're disclosing things all
the time that suggest that there's probably more

555
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going on out there than just human
beings staring at the Naples. There's a

556
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lot of stuff happening. So as
Brian says, he's like, you know,

557
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at one point that you Earth was
full of molten lava and toxic gases,

558
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and then and another point it has
sonatas and arias. And what he

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suggests is that the cosmos is or
i should say, complex life forms like

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ourselves. We are the central nervous
system of the cosmos. We are the

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cosmos becoming self aware. And so
for us to inhabit our own individual purpose

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and then inhabit the purpose of these
larger holes, our families, communities,

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corporations, countries, you know,
inter nation governing agencies like the UN and

564
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we c D and all that.
We have to be aware that what it

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is that we're within. If we
hold that we're just a lifeless blue dot,

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or like a blue dot that has
life amidst a bunch of stuff that

567
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is not life, that creates a
certain set of outcomes, destroying the planet

568
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:05.880
there is like hurting everything that's sacred. But if we hold it that we

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are the cosmos awakening, then we
suddenly start to act differently. Has some

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00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.559
beautiful brand in its just listeners and
viewers and you got to weigh in on

571
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this stuff. So if you're not
listening live, reach out to me and

572
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:23.280
let's talk about this. I think
this is incredibly alluring, exciting, enlivening

573
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in every way. And one of
the things quickly to say to you,

574
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Craig Foster, who created my Octopus
Teacher, I just really am a fan

575
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of what you're doing because for me, that's what happened for me, Brandon,

576
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:40.840
is it opened a window of possibility
for me to see humans differently and

577
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:46.119
understand really more of the complexity,
the beautiful interdependence of the world and everything

578
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:52.280
in it. And yes, this
notion that everything really is aware. And

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00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:53.800
you know, we've been saying,
oh, we're the only ones that get

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00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:57.719
this, and I just think that
is so self serving and limiting. So

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right, So I just loved what
you wrote and I just think it's brilliant

582
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and please do more of it.
So all right, So we were coming

583
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close here, and I want to
make sure that you hit two more questions

584
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for me. One of the things
that you also write about and that we

585
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talked about too, is this notion
that there are some institutions and sounds like

586
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some of your fellow colleagues are doing
this institutions and sovereign nations are beginning purposeful

587
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:27.480
reformation. That is so amazing.
What the heck is that? What's happening?

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00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.480
What are they doing? Yeah,
so they're basically doing purpose processes on

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00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.400
nations and cool. Yeah. Tim
Kelly, the guy I wrote the forward

590
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for my book, he's done work
with the State of Israel and the State

591
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:44.519
of Colombia. And I keep elbowing
him, like, hey, what are

592
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you going to help the United States
were killing all selves. He's like,

593
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You're not ready yet. You're not
ready yet. And I think were getting

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closer to being ready to really fully
inhabiting and discovering who we are as a

595
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nation. But it's a body of
work that absolutely exists. There are folks

596
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.280
who do it at the organizational level
like you and I do, so why

597
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not an entire country? And that's
what gets me excited that I get hopefully

598
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another forty some ideas on this planet
to watch the United States step in its

599
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:22.159
purpose. Like I'm so excited.
I would be so bummed if I died

600
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like five years ago, and like
miss this whole. Yeah right, keep

601
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.039
taking care of yourself because we need
you well. And I'm you know,

602
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.079
this is where we get to be
humble and embarrassed about our humanness. Right.

603
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.800
It didn't occur to me, even
though I, like you, I

604
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:38.519
do work with organizations out them discovered
or do you go with the purpose,

605
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:44.159
It didn't occur to me that institutions
and nations might do that. That's just

606
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.960
amazing. That is an opportunity.
And so of course you say, and

607
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.159
in our conversations and in your book, that more nations are being to ask

608
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.920
themselves why are we here? What
do we believe? Is? Are we

609
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.039
up to in the world? And
so I guess I do want to hear

610
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:02.599
your perspective on why do you think
the United States exists? Yeah, well,

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I mean it's it's obviously not for
me to say I'm not God or

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the purpose Pope or anything like that. With the Purpose Pope, I like

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that. Okay, we should have
probably have some cardinals, but to make

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it happen, Brandon. So what
is interesting is that at least over the

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last ten twenty years, folks have
begun to see that how we are inhabiting

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this planet as political economies, as
cultures is somehow out of step with human

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nature. And I think almost most
Western slash modern countries, depending on what

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the right word is for that.
I would say that they say we have

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a culture and political economy that is
dissonant from human nature. So a minimum,

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how we're showing up as human beings
isn't actually who we are. And

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the last ten twenty years people have
been agatting. Okay, well, let's

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measure what it actually means to be
a human being. Like let's throw GDP

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away, let's throw all this other
stuff away, and let's look at what

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actually is flourishing, what actually doesn't
mean to be a human being that's a

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social animal on this planet, and
how do we measure that? So we

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got you know, new new metrics
like you know, gross National Happiness and

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Happy Planet Index and all that kind
of stuff. And you know Stigletz and

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out of Columbia, he's helping France
with their kind of quantifying, with the

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French way of life through numbers like
kinds of beautiful things. Now, the

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United States is is very unique because
it's so young, it is so immature

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from a soul culture perspective, right, and we've we've grabbed the tail at

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tiger on something. Right, It's
it's thrust us into you know, the

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last one hundred hundred and fifty years
of scientific material achievements. Right, We've

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got something here that is different than
anything else that came before us. And

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so that begs a question. Okay, well, let's let's spend some time

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thinking about what makes the US unique
and what makes Americans in our culture unique.

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And if I had to guess,
and again like I'm not the purpose

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Pope, I would say that we
have a divine purpose to be the first

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truly multicultural nation. We're not we
are a salad. We are not a

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melting pot. We are a salad, but we govern as though we are

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apart time. We have basically a
few, a few straight white guys in

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your cities own and control everything,
and everybody else is, you know,

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fending for themselves. So and of
course we have these beautiful purpose statements around

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eat, purpose UNI and life liberty
and the pursuit of happiness. And now

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that the scigns of purpose and the
science of belonging are showing us what actually

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life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness mean. It's like guaranteed living wage

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jobs, affordable healthcare, you have
community around you. You know, It's

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really basic stuff like stuff that Maslow
and Frankel and all those folks from the

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last century said you got to do
all those things, and America is like,

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no, We're not going to do
any of those We're just going to

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keep making things and concentrating wealth around
cities. So yeah, we've we've got

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a big purpose gap, if you
will. Beautiful statements and this purposeless expression

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and work to do. Oh my
gosh, Brendan, that was so beautiful.

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You chewed up what I hear in
all that is just possibility and work

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for us to do. So we
are already so close to any of the

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show. I do want to give
you a chance just to say just a

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couple of last words, like maybe
fifteen seconds, just to close your thoughts,

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leave the listeners with what would you
like to say? Stay curious.

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Your purpose is out there, it's
in here, and it's going to keep

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evolving. Stay in relationship to it. Treat it like it's a lover.

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Ah. That's good. That's a
great way to finish. Thank you,

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Brandon. Really an honor and a
pleasure to have you on the show.

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Thank you so much for being you
and being on the planet my pleasure.

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Listeners and viewers. You want to
learn more about this amazing man his book

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Planet on Purpose. The work is
doing a unied to elabor anything else he's

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up to in the world. Start
by going to his website Brandonpeel dot com.

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Let me spell that for you Brandon
B R A N D O N

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P E E l E dot com. Last week, if you missed the

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live show, you can always catch
a recorded podcast. We run the air

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with John Baker, who's the CEO
of D two L Desire to Learn,

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and we were talking about the importance
of the role of continuing education and development

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and today's rapidly evolving workplace and marketplace. Next week, we're going to be

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on the air with someone that I
just had the chance to meet recently and

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let me talk about legacy, is
doctor John Marcus. And so we'll be

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talking about the various levels of legacy
how we can go about creating it.

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See you Thereber that works at least
a third of our life. So let's

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work on Purpose. We hope you've
enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

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tune in too. Working on Purpose
featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes each

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week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel. Together we'll create a world where business

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operates conscientiously, Leadership inspires impassioned performance, and employees are fulfilled in work that

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provides the meaning and purpose they crave. See you there. Let's work on purpose.