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What's working on purpose anyway? Each week, we ponder the
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answer to this question. People ache for meaning and purpose
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at work, to contribute their talents passionately and know their
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lives really matter. They crave being part of an organization
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that inspires them and helps them grow into realizing their
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highest potential. Business can be such a force for good
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in the world, elevating humanity. In our program, we provide
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guidance and inspiration to help usher in this world we
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all want, working on purpose. Now, here's your host, Dr.
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Elise Cortez.
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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose program, which has
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been brought to you with passion and pride since February
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of 2015. Thanks for tuning in again this week. Great
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to have you. I'm your host, Dr. Elise Cortez. I'm
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an organizational psychologist, workforce advisor, VISTA chair, and the founder
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of Gusto Now. We're your partner in growing your people, leadership,
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and culture. We are all about helping you unleash the
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energy and capability for people by accessing their gusto, the
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life force for performance that drives commitment, perseverance, and genuine
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ownership of a shared mission. You can learn more about
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us and how we can work together at gusto-now.com or
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my personal site, EliseCortez.com. In today's program, we have with
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us David Stenson. He is the founder and chief evangelist
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of Eats Rescue, a Dallas-based Uber-style on-demand food logistics company
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focused on redistributing surplus food. He is combining his technology
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and food systems, POS, management and logistics experience to build
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a scalable food marketplace that redirects surplus food to veterans
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and families with young children instead of landfills. His vision
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is simple, ensure every pound of surplus is fed to people,
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composted or converted into energy never wasted. He joins us
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today from Dallas. David, a hearty welcome to Working on Purpose.
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Yes, thank you, Elise. Thank you very much.
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So great to have you. Happy to meet you. We
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met at Conscious Capitalism and of course when I Heard
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what you were up to. What did I do? I
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immediately said, you've got to come on my podcast and
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talk about it.
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Here we are.
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Yeah, so I want to start with something a little playful.
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As you were talking to me, you kept saying that
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you were pragmatic. You were working on solving practical problems. And,
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of course, I'm the purpose gal, the meeting and purpose gal,
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and I kept wanting to inject purpose into this. So
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I've kind of come to call you a socially conscious pragmatist.
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Is that good enough for you? Does that work for you?
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That works. That works. Well said. I wouldn't have thought
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of that myself.
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As I mentioned before we got in here, I love creating,
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you know, the new titles for my guests as I
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see them, as I experience them. So if we go
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under that, then, David, what is your philosophy for the
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way you're showing up in the world? There's a lot
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going on, even just in your full bio. There's a
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lot going on in you. Yeah.
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Yeah. So, you know, I think we all kind of
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grow up with values, right? Family, religious, teachings, you know,
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life experiences. And some of us are more socially conscious.
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And I think that's what's happened to me. So the
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socially conscious piece wants to do something for the common good.
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And then you have the pragmatist, which is now I
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have to do it.
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I have to just actually have to make something, you know,
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look for something concrete that actually I can put my
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teeth into. Right.
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And so, you know, back in.
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College, I used to see food get thrown away in
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the restaurants and, You know, you try to do something
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and it just wasn't the right time. Right. So but
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now with all the technology and logistics and apps and
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things like that, it just makes it so much easier.
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So for me, it's like, you know, you have a
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you have a you have a mission and then you
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have to make a choice and you have to do
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the choice to do something. So something has been enough,
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even if it's the you know, we don't know what
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the right decision is sometimes when we start something, but just.
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taking it from going from the trash and giving it
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to somebody in need seems.
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Like a no-brainer.
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Yeah, I hate wasting food as well. David, I grew
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up in the restaurant business and saw just huge amounts
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of waste. I hated seeing that. And so I share
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that same sort of sense of tragedy with that. And
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then along those lines, I can't help but asking you, David,
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I saw this in your bio, that you are someone
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who lives with the concept of food as medicine. What
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does that mean?
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Well, you know, I mean, the human body is a machine, right? And,
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you know, in many ways, it's what you put into
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it is what you get out, right?
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And so we look at our cars and our engines and,
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you know, in business, and we see that there's simply
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that we've got, you know, what you put into it,
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and sometimes even just the quality of the fuel, right,
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is how the the engine will produce or will, you know,
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how it will keep itself maintained.
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Same thing with food.
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I mean, we see that, you know, we know that
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if you eat well and you, you know, and you exercise,
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then you have a better lifespan, right?
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I mean, that's what we believe.
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I think the data is there to show that. And
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so food and medicine is, you know, your food is medicine.
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If you're taking care of yourself and you're getting the
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right food, your body is going to produce better results, right?
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You're going to be in better shape. You're going to
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be in better health. finally, you have less health problems.
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And of course, that helps keep us out of the,
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you know, the hospitals and things like that. So I think,
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you know, this medicine is, you know, has got a
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lot of publicity recently. But some people have always been there. And,
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you know, and like yourself, you run, you know, you
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take care to eat the right food. We need to
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take care of more care of what we're putting in
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our body. And that's, that's what that starts with.
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I 100% agree with that. And maybe as, I don't
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know if it's a slight deviation or just part of it,
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but we've got to talk about cupcakes, right? This is
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where things really got started. I was delighted to hear
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that this whole concept that you created, David, really was
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for the love of your daughter. She had a project
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at school about fundraising and something about cupcakes, and you
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created this app to help her sell more cupcakes. Tell
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us the story.
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Yeah, I was at Oracle at the time, and... She
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wanted to start her own business, and she was 12,
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and I had only one daughter. I had five boys, and,
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of course, I wanted to do something special for her.
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So we didn't want her on social media, you know, selling.
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So we put together a mobile app.
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That allowed her to take a picture of her baked-up goods,
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put a price, post them for sale. And her friends
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from school and teachers and people in the community and
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churches couldn't download.
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The app for free.
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They could see what she was making. They could pay
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for it. They could text her securely inside the app
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when they wanted to deliver it. And so we just,
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you know, built that for her. And, and she started
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doing it in January of 2020. And, you know, I
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don't think we thought much about, you know, the bigger
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aspect other than, you know, there's tens of thousands of
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people selling things and, you know, and social media and
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Facebook and Instagram and things like that. So, think much
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beyond that. It was really about something special for her
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when she was 13.
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Okay, so now you've got this technology. When did you
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start to notice there were other uses for this, like
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even where you're headed now? How did that show up
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for you?
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Yeah, so during COVID, you know, we saw people standing
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in lines, right? And, you know, And at the same time,
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we knew that food was going thrown out. We actually
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had a family ministry of feeding the homeless. And we
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had met some people that now become friends with us.
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Scott Gray and some of his friends from the church.
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And they were feeding hundreds of people a week. When
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COVID sets in, a lot of food from the restaurants
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and from the grocery stores was getting backed up. There
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was nobody to pick up because the volunteers were all sheltered, basically.
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They didn't want to go out or they weren't available
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to go out. And so we saw food going thrown away,
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but at the same time we saw people standing in lines.
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how can we bring these together to solve, you know,
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to lessen the problem maybe.
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And, you know, and we didn't.
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Quite understand the size of the problem at the time, but,
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you know, using social media to, you know, to post
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food that was available seemed like, you know, a good
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thing to do.
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And of course that's what we built into the app.
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It's very much a, it's very much a system and
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notifying when food's available is Locally.
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Okay, let's back up just a little bit here, because
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you and I have talked about this before in other conversations,
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and I think it will be great for our listeners
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and viewers to hear more about this. You mentioned the
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food ministry program that you were doing together at home.
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Help us understand what that was. That was a pretty in-depth,
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intense effort, it seems to me.
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Well, we had a lot of kids, and so you
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kind of want to break up in the right way.
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You want to teach them. You want to humble them.
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You want to show them that some people are suffering,
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and you can have a part in helping them find
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some joy, find some hope. We would go out nights
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and weekends during break to treat sandwiches. I mentioned Scott.
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I mentioned Sandy, but there was several... around us at
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the time that were doing a lot of work helping people,
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specifically unsheltered people.
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see that people are suffering, that we were in a
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good position and we had a way to help.
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It was a way to educate our children, but at
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the same time help the community. So it was, again,
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it's not as easy as just one decision, right?
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Mm-hmm. And what's the age ranges of your children now?
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30 to 14.
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All right.
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So the idea of food insecurity, So let me just
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situate this. I mentioned this to you when we first
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met that I have a friend here in town, Owen Lynch,
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and he really cares about food deserts and things like that.
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And it's focused on this idea of food insecurity. And
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I don't know if that is as important to you
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as just the pragmatics of it, but what about the
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connection between food waste and food security? Is there something
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there for you that grabs you?
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Yeah, it seems to me there are two unnecessary negatives, right?
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They both subtract.
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There's nothing good about either one of them, but together
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they actually solve a problem that one probably can't be
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solved without the other. We're new at this, right? We're
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just learning how to do some of this and adding
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technology to the process. But there's tens of thousands of
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volunteers every day.
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There's millions. I mean, there's 60 million people that volunteer
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a year.
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There's 200,000 organizations. There's 60,000 food pantries that are actually
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working to solve food insecurity. And a lot of this
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is trying to do this with food that's currently going
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to waste. Some of this is with purchased food, but
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a lot of this is just donated food. But it
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turns out that they're not solving the problem, right? I mean,
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the problem is still there. 35% of food is still
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going to waste. And so if you just try to
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think of how you can bring them together and connect them,
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and you can turn two negatives, but two things that
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don't have any value singly, but together they actually leverage
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to solving one of the other, right?
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That's kind of the way we see it, right?
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All this food is available to feed our homeless and
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our food insecure, but it's currently just getting thrown in
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the trash. There's no way to know that food's available
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at any time of day, how much it is, where
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it is, what time it needs to be picked up.
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Those are all the things that we're solving for.