Purpose Quest: Hug Your Ego to Get to Your Essence

There are some people that make their work just another thing they have to do, and there are those that make their work something that they want to do. Welcome to Working on Purpose with your host Elise Cortez. In our program, we provide guidance and inspiration from those people who have found deeper meaning and personal connection to their work life. It's beyond nine to five. It's working on Purpose. Now Here is your host, Elise Cortez. Welcome back to the Working on Purpose Show. Thanks for tuning in again this week. I'm your host, Elise Cortez. Joining you live from Dallas, Texas, which is home base for me. If I've been tuning in for a while, then you know. This program is all about helping people create more meaningful and purposeful lives and equipping leaders inside organizations to cultivate meaning and purpose that elicits passion inspired contribution, innovation, and persevering performance. 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You're interested in the Women on Purpose, a Thought Leadership summit that we're holding in Portland in September, or you want me to speak at your company or conference at any rate, I'm glad we're connected and thanks for listening. Now onto this week's program with us today is Karen Hoyos. She is a global transformational leader, celebrity coach, best selling author, and speaker, and she's considered one of the most influential leaders in the area of personal development who's given her life to her purpose so that every person can see it as possible to live on their own. She's the author of the recently published book called Purpose, the Ultimate Quest. We'll be talking about some key points from the book and tools you can put to use so if you discover your own purpose. She joins today from Miami, Florida. Karen, welcome to Working on Purpose. Oh Annie, I'm so excited to be here with you. Like it. It is so won right, a little energy, whoo, let's do this thing. I'm so happy that your publisher found me and I read your entire book from from one place to last and I loved every moment of it. So I want to get as much out of it this conversation as we possibly can generate for our listeners, so they too can experience you and at least get any introduction to you. So yeah, you're welcome, Karen, Thank you, And I want to talk in this first segment about you know, purpose on the planet, etc. And why you're here. And before we do that, I really want to present something really powerful that you put into the book. And I was just astounded to read that, according to spiritual and scientific sources, only one percent of the world's population is fully living to the life's purpose. Hello, I didn't realize it was that low. No wonder, we're out there working on this. Share your perspective of that. Yes, well, First of all, I want to thank you for generating this space for people to be inspired to find and leave the life purpose. I really acknowledge you work on Earth and may go out on the universe. Continue blessing you so you may continue also impacting the life of so many people that need your message. Thank you, Karen, as you as you know yourself. It's an amazing, precious gift to get to live your purpose, and I'm grateful, very grateful that I get to do it. So thank you for that, of course, my dear. And to touch on this first important key point that you just mentioned, it was very surprising for me too when I found out this is spatistics. At the same time, it's very inspiring for me because if only one percent of the population of this planet is living their life purpose, and there is so much goodness going on, and so so many people are now being transformed, inspired to live a better life, to live a legacy. More and more people are into personal developers, personal growth, spiritual growth. It is because the light is always more powerful than the darkness, and we know this. The darkness is used the absence of light. And when we understand that every one of the of us in this planet have a purpose and have that light. And when we recognize that if there is a lot of darkness around us, is this the world calling us for our lives? And then we can each and every one of us take responsibility for our part and choose to make a difference. But we all know that we cannot make a difference outside if we don't start within us first. So the first step here is I coodnize first, what is that part of me that doesn't see my life yet? What is a part of me that it's still in the past, that it's it's still dropped in the pain of what happened to me in my life, experiences that I haven't let go, that I haven't healed, that does not allowing me yet to hine my life to the world. That is such a beautiful way to get as present to this topic. Karen, Oh my gosh. Now ten Now we're going to add something else, another layer to that which I think is just incredible. So if only one percent of the population is living to the life's purpose. You go on in your book to say that research has shown that when we increase this number two three percent, then the entire planet can be shifted to a level of consciousness where peace will be possible. That blows me away. That is such a great thing to work toward. Yes, Yes, it is that motivation that inspired me to continue moving forward despite of all the challenges that you will find and you will face when you will decide to leave your life purpose. And as you know a little bit about my story, I'm a survivor of domestic violence. So I went through a lot of difficulties in my life. I had a gun pointing to my head at one point of my life, and it was very difficult because I had the knowledge of personal development, but I didn't really know how to use it. So for me, for someone who almost died, for someone who went through so much abuse, physical and emotional abuse, to know that I had hoped to know that I had an opportunity not only to change my life, but to find purpose within what happened to me. It was for me just a way to create a new life. It was a calling for me to say, well, if I was able to shift what it happened to me. That means that many other people can do so, and that's what the three percent goes through. It is our responsibility, the people who are listening right now, you and I, we have a responsibility to share what's good. We have a responsibility to share the tools that have made a difference in our life, and that by sharing that, we give other people the opportunity and to remind them who they really are. We don't have to tell people who they are, because they already know everyone of us. We know who we are inside. We just have to take away the destructions of our ego, that little voice in our head, the false self that we have in our mind that says that we're not enough, And when we take that out of the way, we can get connected to our really true self, which is our essence, and from there start building a new life. A couple things to that really quick. So one, I love the way that you and I wanted to talk about how that you distinguish essence in England. Will I want to say more about that a little bit later as well as we talk about some of the healing piece that you talk about in your book. But that whole bit about talking when I'm out sharing with audiences my messages around meaning and passion, inspiration and purpose. You're absolutely right here, and that's what's been happening is some of the audience members get really present too. I want that I want something more for myself. I know there's something more for myself, and that is that is where I really make my connection and then start to see the possibility of making the difference that I want to make. And to my point mind view, my unique purpose Lens is to be able to help so many people across the world, Karen, who are literally walking through life dead and most of them don't even know it. Yes, exactly, and this is your calling. And I know you are leaving your purpose. I know you are fulfilled. I can hear it in your energy, in the essence of how you communicate who you are being when nobody is looking, what is behind the scenes. It's not when you have your show, but really who you are being as a person. And that is what's possible when people find their purpose, when people start living their purpose. And we all have the same opportunity. And I believe that it's not only or right, but our responsibility to fulfill our calling, to fulfill our purpose because as we are happy, as we found that the joy within our hearts, and then we can share with other people and we give them the opportunity for them to do the same. But we can give what we don't have. We can only share that inspiration where we start leaving it ourselves. And that's what's possible with purpose. I know that to be true, and I love that's so resounded with me when I was reading your book, and in fact, when I want to do two things next. I want to be able to one presence for our listeners. How you articulated your purpose in your book and I'm happy to read that unless you want to say it. And then I want to talk about those six kinds of people in the world that you talk about relative to the relationship to the key and purpose. That's what I want to do next. So do you want me to? Can I read you what she wrote in the book for course? Okay, and you comment and add to it. But so this is what she said. Listeners are so beautiful. So Karen's purpose is my life's purpose is to awaken human consciousness through purpose so that more people choose to evolve consciously and transform the quality of our human existence into one of harmony, peace and love. Wow, it hached to my heart and I get moved. And even though I have the doing this, my dear for fifteen years now in November it's going to be sixteen years and I have over forty thousand graduates of my seminars, I still I am still moved by the power of those words, because this is a purpose that is bigger than me. This is a purpose and a vision that is bigger than myself. That everything I ever thought I was going to create, And even though the mind always doubts, what the heart creates is just so beautiful. That by choosing every single day to heal my life, to let go, to create, to live in a state of gratitude, to contribute, to make a difference, I have been able to not only make a difference for my life, but for so so many others. So actually, I'm very touched by this beautiful purpose that it is a reminder for me that I still have so much to do, but a celebration for what's already been done. I completely agree. And when I think is so great is we're both up to heightening the vibration of humankind that's both really what we're up to, and I think it would be extremely useful for our listeners to be able to let you you share a bit about those six groups people you identified, and let's see listeners, if you're can identify which group that you're in. So these are how you describe these These These are people based on the relationship to the key to open the door to their purpose. And so the first group you talk about are the lost ones that they're unaware they possess the key. Wh would say more about this group so our listeners can get presents they might be in this bucket. Yes, and I love how we're doing it. You mentioned it and then I comment on it, so I'm perfect. It's like I feel like I'm inside the book right now, but I love it. Yes, So the people that are lost, So we all have met people or have encountered people that they don't really know why they're here. Maybe they are lost in the suites, or they take drugs, or they have any other type of addiction. They don't want to leave, they're not really present in this life. They don't want to be here, their laws, they don't know their value. Maybe they have gone through a lot of faith in their life and they have given up. So these are the people that are lost. And now it's not that they don't have a purpose, because we all have a purpose. It's just that they don't know that they have a purpose. And we are all born with the key. And what is the key is faith is and this key of faith and I'm not talking about religion faith. I'm talking about the knowingness within our hearts that we are here to make a difference, that we are here for something more than you're survived. We all have that knowingness in our heart and that's what I call the key, and that key is the one that opens the door of our purpose. And this first group, they don't know they have a purpose, they don't know they have the key, and they have pretty much given up. Now they may also join the next group, but most of them right now they're do us in that space of lingbo no knowing where to go, not knowing what to do, and annoying who they are. Okay, So that's the first group. The second group is you call the seekers, and they know they have the key and are seeking to open the door to their purpose. So tell us more about them, Yes, So seekers are people and I was there, and I'm sure you were there too. I was there too, yes, exactly, in which you find the people that are committed to find their purpose, so they know they have the key to open the door of their purpose. So they know they're aware there is a purpose for their life. They just don't know it yet. And in my case, I was reading many books and I was going to different started different religions, and I was always seeking for the truth. So these are the people that are looking for the answer, what is my purpose? Who am I? Why am I here? And is the first They're hungry to know why they came to this planet. And this is a great group because people that starting this group and eventually moved to the other groups and finalists are living their purpose in life. Is the one that really lives great seats for other people because once you are a seeker, to also join other people that are looking for their paths. So it's a great movement of people looking for their own truth, whatever that is, because the paths are different for everyone. But a seeker is a powerful one. A seeker who's hungry and committed to find his owner her own truth, he will find the door. The seeker will find the door of his purpose for sure. Now the question is what are you going to do once you find it? You know, which probably brings us to the spectator group. Right, they found their purpose, they looked at the door, but they have not yet opened it. Say more about them exactly. And this is a dangerous place, my dear, because here are people that have a lot of knowledge. So maybe they have a study a lot, have done a lot of seminars, personal development training, they read a lot of books. They are very eloquent in talking about purpose and why they're here. They know what their purpose is, they know what they want to deal with their life, but yet they're so not doing it. It's like you're talking, but you're not acting, and without an action, there is no reaction. And this is the thing your place, because you can get very comfortable because if you have a good life, but it's not exactly what you know, you came here to leave, but it's clud it's easy to be comfortable. So a lot of people here they end up just watching through the window. It's the clear window that you can see everything that is possible that is behind the door, and you can see the happiness you can see the abundance, you can see the fulfillment, and you can talk about it, but nobody is opening the freaking door. So it's like, hello, move your bot. Someone else look good to eat, and those are people that we need to wake up. Now, hold your thought to the second. I want to make sure and give us enough time to really go into the other three. But let's grab our first breakcreen. So listeners, hang on. I'm your host, Elise Cortez. We're gonna are with the lovely Envirant Karen Hoyas, who is a global transformational leader, celebrity coach, speaker, and bestselling author. She's the author of the recently published book called Purpose, the Ultimate Quest. She joined us today from Miami, Florida. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Elise Cortez is a speaker and engagement and development catalyst. She designs and delivers professional development, leadership and engagement workshops and can bring her expertise to your organization. She will help ignite meaningful development within your workforce that will increase employee and a performance and retention. To learn more or to invite Elise to speak to your organization, please visit her at www. Dot Elise Cortez dot com. She would welcome the opportunity to help get your employees working on purpose. This is working on Purpose with Elise Cortez. To reach our program today, send an email to Elise ali Se at Elise Cortez dot com. Now back to working on Purpose. Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to working on Purpose if you're just joining us. My guest is Karen Hoyos. She is a global transformational leader, celebrity coach, speaker, and best selling author. She's considered one of the most influential leaders in the area of personal development who has given her life to her purpose so that every person sees it as possible for them to live their own She's the author of the recently published book Purpose, the Ultimate Quest. I'm your host, Elise Cortez. So, just before the break and we were talking about the six different kinds of people that you've identified relative to the world of Purpose. We talked about the last ones, the seekers of spectators, and now we come to the braves, which you say have found their purpose, chosen to use the key to open the door to follow their dreams. Who are they exactly? These are the action takers. These are the people that have showed them saying yes to their purpose even though they don't know the how. And this is very important because many people that stayed us as spectators it's because they don't know the how. And I will promise you that how will come to you once you choose to leave your purpose. Now, before I talk more about this group, it's important to understand how do you find this door? Right? How do you find your purpose? Well, ask yourself this question. If you had all the money in the world and all the time to enjoy it, what would you do with your time? Well, what is your passion? What is it that it's in your heart that if you don't have to work a day in your life, if you don't have to work for money, use for love and passion. That's exactly what you will do. And once you know what it is, either being a life coach, radio host, continue doing where you're doing, an architect, the doctor, something very different than what you're doing right now, or just find that passion that's in your heart, your abilities that you combine for the service of other people because you just love it. That's what your door is. That is the door I'm talking about when I'm talking about the door of your purpose, is your passion, your vehicle to make a difference in the world. And every time that someone said this is said, I'm going for my dreams. This is set even though I may not know how many people may be said it's not going to be possible to me. Many people said, Karen, you will never make it. When I started this journey, this was an industry of men. They were it was run by men. I was very young, Latina, young, beautiful. It's like I didn't really feed the criteria whatever a spiritual master will be or a spiritual coach or business coach, because I didn't match with the profile of people had. So once you find your purpose, you have to understand that you will encounter a lot of negativity of the collective ego. And that's why I call them braces, because they are the ones that have the courage to say, no matter what, but the heck, I'm gonna just open the door. I'm gonna follow my college. I don't know what is in the other side. There is knowingness in my heart that this is what I must do. So I decide to open the door and start leaving my purpose Oh, that's just beautiful. How you render that? Right? If that doesn't call people in, I don't know what's going to do it, Karen. So that's got to get the get us into the next group, which you call the defeated, the ones that were once brave but who have lost their way. Maybe they couldn't quite handle what came at them. Yes, more about them. And you know, this is a very challenging group because it's for me, very challenging to mention because it's like the ones that had it already know what it is. It's like they taste the waters, right, they try the waters, but and then they decide, you know what, I can do this. I'm not enough. I don't have what it tastes. Why and why this happens first the ball is because once you open the door of your purpose, your ego, your ego gets really loud, like the little voice in your head. And what I'm talking about, the ego I'm talking about your false self is who you think you are, the little voice in the head that is always talking, judging, And if someone is listening right now and saying, one little voice in my head, I don't have any voice in my head, baby, Karen because she's Colombia and crazy in Miami. Plan is that voice I'm talking about, right, Is that one that is always judging or heart choices, It's always judging the calling of her soul. Is if the souls say yes, the ego will always say no, and it will try to convince you that you don't have enough, that you don't know enough, that this is not the right moment. That maybe later, And that's when people give up, when they decide to listen to the little voice and said, you know what, I'm not worthy of this sky, I'm not worthy of this this purpose. What if? What if I was wrong? No? And then the bills start showing up and financial situations, financial challenges, things to start getting really messy here because it's a crucial moment when we choose either to continue moving forward, to persevere, or to give up. And a group of people here will decide, you know what, I'm not I'm not good enough, I'm not gonna do this. I'm gonna throw my teeth. And that's when they are out of the game. And it's sad because many of them take their life with them because they cannot live with the pain of no living what they know they have to do. Because once you find your purpose and just start leaving your purpose and you choose not to manifest or to move forward, it's like having a spider in your face, like a hairy, a smelly a spider in your face. Wherever you go, you cannot present. It's not there, So you cannot be in peace unless you choose to move forward. The way the two presents said, there's got to be people listening to this program that are going, oh my gosh, that's me and so right, you need help out their folks. If you're in this space, any of these places, you need help, but especially that one. Well, then that brings us to the last one. Your favorite one is you like to say, the chosen ones, those who have faced everything to fulfill their destiny. Yes, and the grain news is, no matter where you are, speaker, a spectator, brave, even the defeated one. Even if you were like, you know what, I'm not gonna be able to do this and you already gave up. No matter what group you are, you can be part of the choosing One, chosen One. You can, Yes, you can. It is a right that every one of you have. If you're listening to me. I want you to think about someone who inspired you. Maybe it's Mother Teresa, maybe was Gandhi, Mother, Luther, King, Jesus, any leader in life who already is not here as a transition, or it's our way, we're still here, the jobs, whatever, anyone that you are inspired by, I want you to think of their life. They all went through kaka. Okay, they all have their own piece of kaka. You know we're not gonna put here for filmings of Ocaca. We need to clean it up and we have to recognize that it's just part of life. We'll all go through stuff. And no matter where you are, what situation you are leaving, if you choose, if you choose to move forward, if you choose to use your key open the door, and even if you fell many times, you decide to get up again and say, you know what I'm not. I don't know how is this going to work? But if I have a calling in my heart, If I haven't knowing this in my essence, it's because God knows what he is doing. And whatever your belief is, maybe God, Universe, use whatever label works for you. In my case is God. And I know that if God pull a coling in your heart is because you are capable, because you how what it takes. Because everything that happened in your past before now was part of a perfect plan for you to be ready to fulfill your purpose. And those are the Chosen One. You are the Chosen One. And this group for now in this planet is only one percent of the population, but we are manifested that every day are more and more. These are the people who are shifting the consciousness of humanity. These are the people that are ending racism, even though we are going through so many things right now. These are the people that stand for equality. These are the people that stand for the opportunities. These are the people that believe in equal rights, that believe that every person in this planet is served to fulfill their purpose, to fulfill their dreams. These are the people to help other people to do the same. Many people say, well, but there are more bad people than good people. I don't believe in that. I believe the people that are really doing the good. What they do is to help other people to do the same, and that's what you have to do it. You're not there yet on the Chosen One group, but you want to be there surround yourself with people that are there, and if they're not part of your closed circles, well study them, like what you're doing with this show. You get inspired, you study the life of people, you read about them. You'll charnel what these people have been doing in the life, of what they need in their life to overcome adversity and challenges and how they came to be who they are. Because I'm telling you, if you are listening to this right now and you are inspire, if you have it calling in your car, in your heart, is because you are meant to be in part of this group so chosen one. It's because you are the chosen one. You are it like when you're playing tag tag, You're it. This is it. That's so great And the way that you help us really understand that space of you that it's there, it's just up for us to be able to get into touch with it and then live it. It's the opportunity and that whole bit about being able to be part of this work to transform the consciousness of the world. That's definitely what I'm up to and I'm grateful and proud to be in this and working in a space with you Karen's it's amazing and I want to help more people get there. So right, I mean, So, one of the things that you talk about in your book that's so interesting. I've never seen this done before. You've said it a couple of times, is you distinguish the essence and the ego, and you say that the biggest obscule that prevents people from living their purpose is their relationship with their ego. So I think it would help our listeners if you could say a little bit more about that. Yes, and before I move there, what you just said at least about you wanting to help other people to get what you are. This is what I meant with people when they are in the one percent. You would always find people who are in the one percent wanting to help other people to do the thing. So I really salute you. I acknowledge you for doing that, my dear, thank you gass much. Console elamode. So, with this amazing discinction about ego and essence, we have many those who have been seekers and have been reading books and learning about different practices. We heard maybe about the ego and about how bad is it? And if you study some religions you heard about like the devil or the bad energy or bad modeo whatever, But there was always this negative force, negative energy that is presently in most of the teachers teachings that are spiritual based or religion based or personal development base. Right, So when we talk about the ego many times, and when people practice joga or meditation, they're always like wanting to get rid of the ego rights, like it's bad, like it's this bad things about us that we cannot be. And I have read a different perspective about it. And then two books. One is called The New Earth and the other one is called The Power of Now by e Cartoon, which I really loved, and he starts showing the concept of the ego as or falself, who we think we are, like the little boys in our head. And that inspire me to really move into another direction. And I went into meditation and I ask God, because I have conversations with God, you know, I just talk to God. And I said, well, what do we have an ego? Anyways? Like what is the point of having these little boys in our head? I know, God is not a god of judgment, is not a God of punish man, is not a bad God who wants to punish us for our sins. I don't believe in that. I believe that God is loved and God have created in his image to us or her image then, right, so that we are free to create a life that we want to create, and that includes if we choose to create negativity suffering because we have the freedom to do whatever we want with a life. Well, sadly, we also have the freedom to create negativity. Right, But it's all because of God love that let us be who we are and what we choose to be. That all of these situations are happening in the world. So I ask God what is the point of this ego? And the answer was very clear and changed my life forever. And God said, well, this is for you to remember who you really are. And at that moment I was like, wait a minute, but little voice like the ego negativity to remember who we really I'm not shoot if I understand. So it took me a little bit to really get the fact that wants you understand who you are. Not so the leader voice the ego is it's a protective mechanism. It's like it wants to protect you. But what is it that he wants to protect you from the unknown. So in our essence we have infinite knowledge, we have infinite possibilities of creation. Now within that even the possibilities of creation the mind of human being, the human beings mind, and start creating also things that are not as good for humanity. And that's where the ego starts forming this separation, the illusion of separation. So if we decide to connect to who we really are, which is our heart, which is our essence or not you state, we can observe the thought that we have in our head. We can we can observe what the ego is saying and automatically understand that that's not who I am. For example, my ego is saying, oh, you're stupid, you don't know enough, nobody's gonna believe you, nobody is gonna listen to you. So if I am observing those starts and understanding that that's not who I am, But that's just my ego wanting to convince me not to follow my dreams because it's afraid of what comes next, which is the unknown. What if you are really powerful, what if people really listen to you? What if you really fulfill your your purpose, your dreams? What is in the other side, so terrified of the unknown that prefers to keep you in the same place. So if I understand that, and I see those stuts, and I am becoming observer, I can say to those stuts, thank you for sharing, thank you for reminding me that I am worthy, that I have what it takes, that I am the chosen one, that I'm choosing to leave my purpose now. So when I talk about having a relationship with the ego, it's instead of fighting the ego, because if you fight it, it makes it makes it stronger. Instead of ignoring the ego the little voice, because if you're ignored, also get stronger. Instead of doing all of that convincing fighting, ignoring, you start getting to know your ego so well that when it comes up, is no longer going to run your life. It's no longer going to control your life because you automatically recognize that that thinking, those thoughts are not you. That's use your ego. And then as soon as you understand that you have a choice, you are now free to choose coming from your essence or listening to the ego and acting accordingly. Oh my gosh, Karen, that was beautiful. Okay, hold that thought, because I want to say more about that when we come back from our last break. I'm Elise Cortez, your host. We've been on the air with Karen Hoyos. She is a global transformational leader, celebrity coach, speaker, and bestselling author. She is the author of the recently book called Purpose, the Ultimate Quest. She joins us today from Miami, Florida. Stay with us, We'll be right back. Alice Cortez is a speaker and engagement and development catalyst. She designs and delivers professional development, leadership and engagement workshops and can bring her expertise to your organization. She will help ignite meaningful development within your workforce that will increase employee engagement, performance and retention. To learn more or to invite a lease to speak to your organization, please visit her at www dot Elise Cortez dot com. She would welcome the opportunity to help get your employees working on purpose. This is working on Purpose with Elise Cortez. To reach our program today, send an email to Elise Alis at Elise Cortez dot com. Now back to working on Purpose. Thanks for staying with this and welcome back to working on Purpose. If you're just tuning in. My guest is Karen Hoyos. She is a global transformational leader, celebrity coach, speaker, and bestselling author. She's considered one of the most influential leaders in the area of personal development who has given her life to her purpose so that every person can see it possible for them to live their own. She's the author of the recently published book called Purpose, the Ultimate Quest. I'm your host at least Cortez, so before the break, Karen, that I was a beautiful way to really help us distinguish ego and essence. I think that's incredible useful for our listeners to get that that we have to get to know our ego in order to be able to embrace our essence. And one of the things that you say in the book that I think is so powerful is that you say that purpose is happening in the present and that in order to live one's purpose, we must heal from any past issues and understand the gift they bring us. They brought us say more about that. That's very powerful, Yes, And I love this because it is very easy to understand when you put it in practice to your current situation or your results. What I mean by that is you are listening right now, and the results you have in your relationship, personal relations in your finances, in in your health, they're not a match for what you have in your heart, for what you know you deserve. Is because there are roots, emotional roots from your past that you haven't healed yet. So it is important to understand that every fruit of your life is a consequence of the seeds that you have been planted before in the past, when you when you were starting your experience of life, and it's usually before when when you were seven years old. In my case, for example, I remember that I saw domestic violence. I witness how many father was abused in my mom when I was four years old. So that for your old girl make a decision and subconscious decision that every man were like my father. So from that point I grew up wanting to change that situation, wanting to change what my mom experienced, and of course, because I did then heal that relationship with my path, I end up duplicating the same thing. And this is a reason why many people know they have to be in good relationship, know they deserve better, but still continue manifesting the same results. Why because you haven't healed your path yet, because there are so roots and decisions that your ego may when you are leader that are still running the show. So a couple of things of that, Karen, that is so great that you distinguishes for us. So one of the things that you say in your book, which I completely endorse because I also I do talk about how we need to embrace our adversity because it helps us become who were meant to become. But you also go on to say something slightly different. You say that we should stop asking why something bad happened to us, but rather what for? What's it serving? Yes? And I think that's such a great opening. I'm a logo therapist. That just means how people discover meaning and how they can make meaning and sense of things of that happen in their life and who they are. That opens a whole space for people when you ask it like that, yes, and why is this important? At least because it brings people to take responsibility. That why is a victim mentality? Why me? Why this? Or I'm a victim? And for so many years I know what that is because I was a victim of domestic violence. I was a victim of my situation for many years and until I decide to be responsible, to take responsibility for my life and said I'm no longer a victim of what happened to me. I am responsible of what I created in my life. Now, this doesn't mean that what happened to me was Okay, I'm not justifying domestic violence. I'm not taking the impact of what happened. But what I'm saying is I am the one who created this life. I am the one who created this results. So that means that I have the power to change it as soon as you decide, as soon as you choose to be responsible for your results, as soon as you understand that this is your creation. What you're living right now, what you love, what you ate, what you don't like about your life right now, everything has been your creation. I know it's something that that ego hates to hear, and that ego wants to say, Well, but you don't know my mom, you don't know my father, you don't know my sister, you don't know I understand. We all have one of those in our life, or many of those in our life. I understand, but nobody was. If you don't want to perpetuate this results, the first step is to be responsible and how we are responsible when we choose to say, this is my creation, and because this is my creation, I am grateful. Yes, you hear it right, I am grateful for what happened in the past until now. And it is when you're able to look at your past and understand that every situation, even the most painful one, even the ones that you don't really want to think of, they were all part of a plan for your evolution. That if you choose to be able to say, I'm thankful for the experiences of my past because I learned one, two, three, and you can mention the things that you learned, and that doesn't mean that it's okay, That doesn't mean that you're you're justifying what happened, but you're saying this is never going to happen again because I understood why I created this, What was the purpose? More than the why, what was the purpose of my creation? I understand now. And when you understand the gifts behind the challenge, the gift behind the pain, and then you start the healing, and with the healing, you start also receiving the wisdom from the healing, so you can help other people and eventually fulfill the purpose of our pain in our past. What is the purpose of the pain of the past, So we can help other human beings so they don't go through the same things that we do, or if they want to do the same things, we help them heal even faster. And that's how we start the movement of healing, when we use what happened in our path to continue growing and to live a legacy on this planet. I just want to echo two things to that that's so well said. One is that I really embrace what you said about standing in a place of responsibility, embracing what we can do with this how it's made, it's who we are and who we can become. And two that it's really this whole bit is really getting to We are are on a path of evolution, whether we realize it or not, or conscious of it or not, we are and the opportunity is to engage in that and become a seeker or you know, start the process here and really understand that our lives are evolving. We have an opportunity to really direct that and do it in a way that lets us really live our purpose and make a difference in the world that needs to be made. Yes, exactly, and as we all take responsibility, as we all come together, as you who are listening right now understand that we need you, That this is not a path for some. We need you. If you're listening right now to this message, it's because you are the choosen one. It's because you are ready. It's because you are it. And as you understand and choose your responsibility, as you understand and you choose your purpose, despite of what your mind says, despite of what the eagle said that you're not ready, you're not good enough, you're not worthy, or whatever Tata is saying, if you choose to say yes, if you choose to heal your path and share your gift with the world, this world will be transformed. I believe in that, and we see it every single day, more and more people are awakened to who they really are and start the process of tranformation. As that's all it take. That's all it takes me. We choose that the rest is going to be a ripple effect and the world, the world is going to be awakened, and is exactly what happened. We cannot stop this process. Now we have the power to change the world. And you think your hands, person by a person, one at a time, choosing purpose, one at a time will trumform that whole planet, and that is a worthy movement. I'm happy to devote the rest of my life too. So I'm on the bus with you, Karen. We are only we've only got like about five minutes left here, and I want to talk about something that people are not going to expect to expect us to talk about, and that is money. So one of the things that we talked about, you and I when we were preparing for this conversation is this whole notion of purpose and spirituality connection with money. And you say something in your book about coming out of the spiritual closet about money. So talk to us a little bit about what you mean by that. And I also want to talk about what you say that selling is a way to love our clients. Yes, I love this, and this is so important that it's included in this conversation because we have been taught for years and four generations that spirituality and money done much that business and heart business and purpose and business and spirituality are not a much because we have been taught that the money is a thing of the ego, that is evil, that is the root of all of the ego, all evol on of those things that we heard before, that it makes people greedy, and all of these false accusations from the ego. And I used to believe that, And the first four years of my career as a coach, I made no money. I was broke. People were going to my seminars babbling their income, income, people in their income, and I was going broke every time. More and more I wanted to register to my own seminar, like what I didn't understand why was happening right? And it wasn't until I met my mentor, Gary Salbert, a Jewish entrepreneur, multi millionaire, who taught me that first of all, showed me that I had I had cut my spiritual relationship with money based on my false beliefs. I didn't see God in money. And the truth is, if you don't see God in everything, you don't see it at all. If you are separating God from money, you're saying God is not in every way, in every place on this earth. If you are separating the energy of love from money. You're saying, well, love is conditional to some things of some people. At the moment you take their blindfall and you realize the money is the compensation for our gift. Money was created as a way to compensate or gift. And then you cut the strings that separates you from money. You connect, You see God, you see energy, you see love also in money, and you understand that you are worthy and not only you have the right, Yes, you have the responsibility of creating abundance in your life. Because more you have, more you can give. So this is a responsibility for us, the spiritual beings, to grow in prosperity so we can help even more people. We can give back more as when we choose the abundance in our life. Oh my gosh, Karen, And that is so powerful because you're right, I think you know, and my own journey, I had to go through this and I still am to a certain extent about Wow, you know, if I'm going to make a difference in the world, you know, and shouldn't be focused on money, and I'm not. I don't. I don't focus on the money. It's a it's a byproduct, right, But I think a lot of people have the mistaken belief that I have to choose money or purpose, not both blackly, And as soon as you are leaving money out of the equation, you are separated, a separating God, You're separate, separating love. You're saying, well, the power of my gift only comes to this place, but not to that place. You are the one being in ego. As soon as you are separating yourself from the money, you are being ego. You are the one judging yourself, judging the money, and judging the impact. So let's embrace it all, come in oneness and choose to understand that if you have a gift, if you share the gifts, you have the rights and that responsibility to be compensated for the gift. And if you choose to share widely that compensation, you will be part of the creation of wealth and abundancing that in the world, and you will help with those resources heal the world as well. Oh my gosh, Karen, that is just I think that really opens up something for a lot of our listeners that have been struggling with this. And I talk to people all the time who start to engage me and they say, well, I don't know if I can go down this path because I'm not really sure I want to give up the lifestyle that I've credit for myself. I don't know that I really want to walk away from my income or my furrow one k, or my bonus, whatever it is. And I know that's the ego speaking absolutely. And let me tell you, my dear, I have an amazing life. I can say. I am a mother of queens. They are now sixteen. I have never needs a field of their school. I would therefore every important. And then I still if I want to stay home, And I wanted you to say in my pigam of like right now I'm in my pigamat while I'm doing this interview right because I have no boss, because my early boss is God, and because I'm choosing my life every day. And when you choose to have the freedom to live the life you love, doesn't mean that you have to have luxury. Luxury's not for everyone. But whatever it is that you feel in your heart that you want to do with that compensation, with money, with financial abundance in your life, it is what you deserve. You deserve to live the life that you love the way that you have created in your heart. Don't let the ego take away the life from you. Don't let the ego convince you that you're not worthy, that you're not a service, because what it wants is to limit you. You are here to live a life of happiness, abundance, help, passion, a lot of passion energy, and of course to live a legacy on this planet. Oh what a beautiful way to finish, Karen. I want to just keep you and hang on to you, and of course I will be staying in touch or not running away from me. Thank you so much for being on the show, for sharing your beautiful soul, your passion, your purpose. It has been delightful to get to know you better and share you with my listeners across the globe. Oh it was my pleasure, my love. Thank you so much. You know you can always count on me and buy me back. I love this, I love everyone who is part of this farming amazon And you can connect with me in social media. My name is Karen hoyos h o y o s so you can join me there. I have always great things to share. May God and the universe continue blessing you. I believe in you. You ought to start keep shining. Oh that's so wonderful. You can also check her out on her website too, Karen Hoyos dot com. And last week, if you missed the show live, you can always catch if you recorded podcast. We were on there with Jonathan Herskowitz of s VOC Business Growth Advisors. It's a consultancy that helps its clients grow their businesses by gaining an understanding of their strategy, operations, and culture. We talked about those very things. Next week, we'll be on the air with author and purpose expert Diane McClay. She's a personal transformation coach as well. We're going to talk about our joint collaboration to address the need and opportunity to develop more women in the workforce and why that's good for business. See you there. Remember that works at least one third of our life, So let's work on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to tune in to Working on Purpose featuring your host Alice Cortez, each week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel. This week, find your life's purpose at work