Lessons Our Animals Teach Us to Become Our Best Selves

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There are some people that make their
work just another thing they have to do,

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and there are those that make their
work something that they want to do.

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Welcome to Working on Purpose with your
host Elise Cortez. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration from those
people who have found deeper meaning and

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personal connection to their work life.
It's beyond nine to five. It's working

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on purpose. Now Here is your
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Working on Purpose. So thanks for
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Cortez joining you live from Dallas,
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onto this week's program with us today is

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doctor Joanne Lefevre. She is a
tarian promoting intuitive medicine. She guys,

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families, and tuning in with their
pets, themselves, nature, and the

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universe to make better medical decisions.
Doctor Joanne is the author of Animal Teachings

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from Haley's Angels Methods. To Joge
today from the State of Florida, Doctor

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Joanne, Welcome to Working on Purpose. Thank you so much, Elise for

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having me. I'm very excited to
share with you and your listeners the teachings

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of animals on my path being Venu. It's so wonderful to have you.

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And again, I so appreciate that
you can speak various languages, English,

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French, what else? Oh,
yes, studio espanolun pokito, wi bien

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dambien. Well, it's wonderful for
our listeners to be able to hear that

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lovely accent of yours. And I
want to thank you for finding me and

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when we were generating this conversation about
what did we want to situate? What

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do we want to talk about?
One, I love the fact that I

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can showcase you as a woman clearly
working on purpose and service of your calling.

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We'll hear more about that. And
I also wanted to have you as

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a guest on the show because people's
lives today are intimately intertwined with their pets,

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which greatly impacts their meaning of course, and the quality are realize.

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And of course that's a lot of
the world that I'm focused on, and

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I know from my own experience there
are so much animals can teach us about

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becoming better versions of ourselves. And
so for those two reasons, doctor Joanne,

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I wanted to have you on the
show. So I've get you for

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an hour. Are you ready to
go? I'm ready to go. Okay,

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Well, I always like to help
our listeners understand really how it was

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you got into this space. And
you've got this amazing story that about early

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on how you connected with animals and
took the ratit becoming a veterinarian. But

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could you give us, you know, the short version of what that was.

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Since I was a very young child, I've always connected with animals more

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than people. And I was a
middle child, so I had a lot

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of time kind of left alone,
and I would be outside playing with butterflies

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and letting the ants crawl on my
hands and playing with the earthworms, and

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that it's still my home, you
know. The best place for me is

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to be outside and to just be
amazed by the beauties of nature. So

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as a teenager, I was blessed
to work in a wildlife refuge for a

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couple of years, and that definitely
pushed me into VET school. And my

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passion for helping animals is just still
very alive today and more and more,

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and I just can't stop, you
know, wanting to make the world a

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better place for them and for people, because, like you said, they

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have so much to teach us if
we are ready to receive their teachings,

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they have amazing wisdom for us.
And what was it just to go one

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more level deep there for our audience? Because keep in mind that many people

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listening to the show are hoping to
discover their own purpose. That's a lot

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of the reason that they tune in. So how did you know for sure

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that it was animals that you wanted
to work with, that was your calling?

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I well, one thing is that
I could not have seen myself do

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anything else. You know, when
I did other jobs, summer jobs as

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a student, I either was not
good at it or my heart was not

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there either. So you know,
if your heart is not in that right

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place of you could just work endlessly, then it's not your place, you

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know, I just felt like,
Okay, this is not work, this

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is so much fun. Like if
I can make a living doing what I

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love, let's do is because I
just feel like I'm playing every day.

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So that's really the way I go
about life. It has to be fun

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and my heart makes the decision over
my brain. That is beautiful. And

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I want to echo something that we
heard a few weeks ago from a previous

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guest, doctor Alex Potacos, who
is also called doctor meaning he says he

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greatly advocates for people creating a life, not a living, and so do

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you have created a life? So
have I, and I appreciate that very

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much. It's not always easy,
right to listen to our heart, but

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ultimately I think it always works out
the best. I agree it's not the

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easy, but yes, you have
to overcome a lot of fears and self

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doubt. But at the same time
you have to just go for it,

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because I agree it's the purpose of
life, being happy, doing what we

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love and being in service right and
which is absolutely what you're doing. And

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to that end, there's so much
we could talk about here, but I

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want us next get us into because
this is so pivotal for you. The

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story in your book that one of
how you met your husband is great.

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We got to talk about about that
and his dog, Haley. It's so

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great. And I love how you
talk about how helping her pass at home

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help to become a much better person
than who you were prior to the founding

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of this company. And you say, tapping into our own deepest potential,

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expressing it to its fullest is the
most rewarding experience ever on earth. Be

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the best you can be. I
love that. That is so right.

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I'm so with you on this.
So for our listeners who haven't yet read

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your book, first tell us how
it is that you met your husband and

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then came to know Haley. So
seriously, it was a blessing and it

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was it was an intuition call,
and I'm so I'm so grateful, I'm

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so I pat myself in the back
every day for listening to my gut feeling

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on that one, because I was
years ago, that was sixteen years ago

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when I met my husband, and
I did not know how to really listen

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to my gut feeling and I was
still very much in my brain. But

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anyway to sum it up, I
had moved to the Northeast and that's where

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he's from. And I wanted to
a dream of mine came back from when

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I was a kid, of taking
dance lesson and that was my first job.

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I was finally making money and I
wanted to pursue that dream. But

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I was alone. I didn't have
any partner, and so I was very

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afraid of like, oh am,
I gonna look crazy going to take dancing

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lessons on my own. And I
had other options that I was considering,

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but my heart was not in them, like working out at the gym or

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so I ended up just like,
Okay, I'm gonna be crazy here and

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I'm just going to show up at
the dance to you by myself. And

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my husband happened to be the teacher
there. But he's a he's a rock

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musician, he's a singer songwriter.
He doesn't really belong in a ballroom at

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dance studio. But he was there
for just a few months in his life

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because he was DJing at the time
and he was learning some dance to teach

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the groom and the bride, so
he was DJing weddings and so our lives

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just met for it was so fortunate, fortunate, So that was it.

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You know, I love at first
sight and we just and Haley was there.

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Haley was my husband's dog, and
she changed my life because I you

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know, she accepted me as part
of the family. She could smell the

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veterinarian. It took her a few
a little minute here too welcome me in,

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but then she trusted me and we
spent twelve years together. And the

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time came. She was an old
lady and we had to help her pass.

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So she you know, she needed
help and she was suffering. So

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luckily I was able to bring the
eu tan asia medication at home. She

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had trouble breathing, so it was
really really good that we did not have

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to move her, that I was
the veterinarian able to bring the medication home,

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and we helped her pass at home, and you know, I really

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thought my life was ending. I
mean, I didn't know what to do.

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I was so devastated. And after
she passed, the you know,

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weirdest moment happened where all people started
calling me out of nowhere, like a

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friend of a friend saying, hey, would you be able to come help

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me help my own animal go to
heaven from home. I don't want to

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go to the hospital, and so
I had experienced this, you know,

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I'm just with Haley, and I
really felt like Haley was pushing me from

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the other side to help others,
just like I had helped her. And

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I was trying to blow that thought
away. You know, my heart was

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saying, oh, no, this
is crazy, She's not there's nobody on

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the other side. I'm not going
to do this. I'm afraid, and

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I was really trying to resist that. But everything in my life kept,

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like the signs and the synchronicities and
all the everything was coming back for me

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to do this, and I finally
had to surrender to Haley. I was

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just like, Okay, you know
what, if you're there really and I'm

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supposed to do this, please help
me make this go out. Like I

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really want to do a good job. I want to help these families.

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I want to be able to help
these animals pass peacefully. And this now

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today, it's twelve years later,
and I have helped you know, a

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lot of animals, and oh my
god, she really pushed me out of

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my comfort zone and a dog.
I had to take the leap of faith,

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you know, I had to say, oh my god, I'm just

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I don't know what's going to happen
here. But luckily, yeah, luckily

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it works out. And this is
you know, it gave me some momentum

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to take either bigger leap of faith
and you know it's truly the right answer.

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When you have a gut feeling you
have to go for it. That's

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so beautiful. A couple of things
I want to I want to peel back

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there if we can. One is
I think if I read this right somewhere,

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it is either in your book or
on your website that since your family,

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you've helped over a ten thousand families
find pas enclosure with their pets,

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illnesses and passing. That's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, and again it doesn't

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feel like that. I mean it
just I enjoyed myself, you know,

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helping others make me feel so good
that yes, it went by in a

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blink of an eye. It's amazing. I don't know how you have time

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to talk to me right now.
This is crazy. You're in such demand.

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It's it's wonderful. And I want
to thank Haley for the role that

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she had in helping you really discover
you're even deeper. Calling because one of

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the things that I share with my
listeners is that those experiences in life that

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really call something deep from us can
be sources of discovering our purpose, maybe

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as it was for you. Right, And so I mean, now today,

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what do you call your So it's
Haley's Angels Veterinary Services, right,

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yep, Yeah, And I'm grateful
to Haley as well. You know,

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God, I miss her, but
I really feel like, yeah, she's

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there, she's she's making sure that
I don't get bored down here, that

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I do some good work and help
others. Song grateful for her. Yeah,

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being in service like that is is
tremendous. And the community that you've

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built. So you said that people
began calling you. Did you tell anybody

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that you had helped Haley pass or
they just somehow new to call you.

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It started with just one well,
one veterinary technician, one co worker who

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who came to help me. She
was my closest friend and she helped me

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with Haley because I didn't feel like
I had this strain to do this on

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my own. And so it started
with one of her friends and then just

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word of mouth, it just went
crazy. And it's more than word of

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mouth. It was like an energy, you know, some interaction really,

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some blessing from the other side that
made it snowball so quickly, and I

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was trying to resist it and stop
it until I'm like, Okay, well

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this is not stopping, so let
me jump in and yeah, let's do

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this. You know, animals need
help, I mean, they need to

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help so well. And again I
said, like I said, so many

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people are so beautifully connected to their
animals, like you, like you have

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been with Haley and others I had. I don't have animals today, but

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when I was growing up in elementary
school, I had one horse named Sugarfoot

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and exactly sixteen cats that all had
their own names. I made them their

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own houses. They were precious to
me. So, you know, how

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we're connected to animals is really important. And then later, of course,

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we're going to talk about what they
can teach us to become better human beings.

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But before we get there, there's
one other important part of you that

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I really want to call out for
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it's very important to you, and
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you are on a mission to inspire
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as one with the web of life, as you'd like to say, so

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situate for us this key philosophy of
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vegan kind of overnight at the same
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felt like I stepped out of my
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world from a different angle, like
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and I was just petrified all of
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in, but just the way,
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this world. So I've made a
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of any destruction on this beautiful planet
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I kind of became vegan overnight of
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eat, you know, I don't
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no more animal meat, no more
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that I use, you know,
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you know, making sure it has
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friendly, so friendly for the for
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positive footprints during my journey on Earth. That is really really beautiful, and

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you know, it does take taking
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a movement and it's important. Yeah, each life count And when you look

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at it this way, Oh my
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it outside, and you're saving one
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just makes my day. Every time
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oh, I'm about to feel so
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and it's just a beautiful thing.
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just wants me to smash it,
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Thanks for staying with us, and
welcome back to working on purpose if

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you're just joining us my business doctor
Joan lefev. She is a veterinarian promoting

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intuitive medicine and she guides families and
tuning in with their pets, themselves,

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nature in the universe to make better
medical decisions. Doctor Joanne is the author

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of Animal Teachings from Haley's Angels Methods. I'm Your host Elise Cortez. So

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for this next segment, Doctor Joanne, I want to I want to help

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our listeners understand your your key learnings
and philosophies. And in your book,

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there's there's quite a bit in there
about what you've learned in your life and

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through your own experience and through your
own your inquiry, and they come out

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in the way of philosophies. So
first you write that animals or pets come

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into our lives to teach us specific
lessons. That is so beautiful and that

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really quick. That takes me back
to how you met your husband. I

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mean, you know, when I
think about that, I'm very much attuned

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to vibrations and energy too, and
I mean obviously that that was supposed to

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happen. But now tell us about
this whole notion about our pets teaching of

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something specific. That's fascinating. I've
never anybody to say that before. So

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you know, it's the same beautiful
law of attraction of when you are not

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resisting and you're following the flow,
you will encounter the perfect match, whether

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it's a human or an animal.
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as a difficult relationship, but the
purpose is always to grow. And so

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when I ask people how did you
find your animal or how did you choose

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your animals, most people ninety nine
percent of them will tell me, oh,

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I did not choose this one.
He chose me. And for example,

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you know, you're just walking down
the streets and this kitty starts following

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you home, and it's like,
okay, I'm here, come on the

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new daddy, you know, let's
go home. And so I'm always grateful

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when people say, well, okay, I guess yeah, you chose me.

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Let's do this, Let's make this
work. And people embrace the teachings

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that these animals have for us.
And when they go to a shelter,

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let's say, or they have an
idea of what I'm going to adopt this

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kind of dog, this breed,
but then they go to the shelter and

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this different, completely different animal,
different personality, different breed, different age,

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just looks at them in the eye
and it's like there's an bond that

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forms right away. And so this
is truly the best part of finding the

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right teacher for you, because I
really feel like, you know, there

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is a right connection to grow together. M you know, I definitely have

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acquired animals over my life as well. And when I acquired that my horse,

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Sugarfoot, I didn't pick him,
he just sort of but we fell

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in love with each other. It
took us some time, but we absolutely

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fell in love with each other and
fell into an energy at cadence, a

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way of understanding each other that was
really beautiful. Still today, all these

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years later, I can remember that
absolutely, and it's embracing. Of course,

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they put you out of your comfort
zone. There is a pig living

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with us right now, and I
don't still don't know how this happened.

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He showed up two years ago at
our gate and he's like, Okay,

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I'm home, let me in.
And my husband and I were like,

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oh my god, seriously, like
we don't know anything about pigs. There's

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no pig rescue that we can take
him to. So we let him in.

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And yeah, it was a little
bit of a steep learning curve.

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He outsmarted us many times, but
now we embrace. We embraced his teachings.

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He walks on a leash on the
harness. He loves to go for

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rides. We take him to the
beach and he's on his own journey.

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Truly of making the world a better
place. So we're really happy right now.

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That is so brilliant. It's just
beautiful, all right, Well,

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what kind of similar along the same
line of lessons here, another thing that

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you talk about is you suggest that
in order to improve the care of people

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and animals worldwide, we all need
to be actively involved in our own healing

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and in the healing of our pet. Of course, that makes sense to

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me. And that the diagnosis you
say is an opportunity to grow. I

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think that's fascinating. So I'm really
interested in the idea if you could talk

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more about how our diagnosis as people
is an opportunity to grow. What do

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you mean by that? So I
want to tell everybody you know, when

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you receive a diagnosis, don't feel
so defeated or like it's going to stick

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with you forever and it's a like
a death sentence, you know. We

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it's a it's an apportrait to put
an opportunity to grow in this sense that

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there's a reason why you got sick. Where there is where we get out

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of balance, and that's truly the
main reason why our body gets out of

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balance too, and then we end
up with different diseases. So it's a

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good time to reflect on your life
and say, well, what can I

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do better here? How can I
become a better person, more balance.

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Is it something in my food and
my diet that I'm that's hurting my body?

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Is there any strong emotions that I
haven't dealt with, you know,

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chronic sadness, anger, resentment,
guilt, any anything that is negative that

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you know, when you think about
it just makes your heart sink, you

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know, it's it lowers your energy
level. So there is a way to

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fix that. Looking at your lifestyle. Are you sleeping enough? Are you

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thriving where you are? You know, some people thrive more by the beach,

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the ocean. Some people need to
be in the mountains, some people

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need to be in the desert.
So it's really a good opportunity to reassess

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our life and do better and get
rid of that diagnosis. You know,

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heal our diseases, because most of
them, we can heal them. I

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know of so many people who have
turned their diagnosis into something frankly miraculous.

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I mean, just one example,
I had a woman named Gwen rich on

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my radio show last fall. I
think it was she has been surviving terminal

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at breast cancer now for the last
eight years, and now she's learned how

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to eat eat in an incredibly healthy
way, and she's gone on to start

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a couple nonprofits, and she's written
a book. And I mean, she

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has done so much since her diagnosis
and learned so much about breast cancer and

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everything. It's just unbelievable. So
a testament to what you're saying. For

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sure, absolutely, I'm so grateful
that she did not feel defeated. She

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decided to embrace the lesson and really
learn. And that is amazing. It

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is and it's incredibly inspiring. Men. Instead of falling down and saying,

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oh my gosh, you know I've
been diagnosed, what's the point, she

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was like, well, I got
work to do until until the time happens.

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Yeah, wow, right, no, right, I know. Okay.

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So the next thing I want to
talk about again another thing that I've

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never heard anybody talk about here or
doctor Joanne. And as you say in

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your book, that knowing your pets
life mission helps you grow. First,

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I didn't even know that pets could
have a life mission. So how do

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we discover our pets life mission?
That's the first question. So it's easy.

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Pick one word that describes your pet
the best. When you look at

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your pet and you know him,
his behavior and his passions, if you

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allow him to really show you his
true colors, what does he live for?

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What does he stand for? So
it could be as easy as you're

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walking. You're walking your dog on
the street, and your dog just wants

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to go say hello to everybody.
He's the social butter fly, and a

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lot of people would be annoyed.
I'll just like yank on the legion say

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no, no, no, no, we're walking like let's go. But

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maybe you've got a little therapy dog
on your hand who just brings joy it

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to everyone's life. And if you
embrace this and maybe bring your dog to

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nursing homes or hospitals or schools,
even to be around children. So many

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dogs now are learning teaching students children
to read. So if you dare following

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your pets path wherever your pet wants
to take you, it's it's it's gonna

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be, it's gonna be beneficial,
for sure. You got it so beautiful.

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I just met a friend who's got
a really, really clever dog.

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His name is Nelson, and he's
really got all the personality of the town

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if you will, you know,
piled into his small little body, and

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he really could be like the mayor. Yes, there you go. I

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mean, Wilbur the pig is a
complete little vegan activist. And I did

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not realize this, but when I
take him to the beach, now I'm

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aware. But first few times I
didn't know the rockets we were going to

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create, because everybody, of course, just sees a pig on the beach

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and they come running. And Wilbur
is quite quite the character. So he

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sits for food and I'll always bring
treats and so people can feed him.

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And he sits and he looks.
He looks like he's yeah, he's the

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king. So people look at him
and they mailed, and then the first

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thing that comes out of their mouth
is, oh my god, I will

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never eat bacon or him again.
And I was like, wow, wow,

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not see this coming. Wilbur,
you do it, my friend,

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this is awesome. He can do
it better than I can. They wouldn't

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believe or listen to me, but
to him, like, oh my god,

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they will never eat bacan or him. After they meet Wilbur, he's

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not so fantastic. Oh my gosh, you two need to travel more often

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together. I know, I know
we do. We need to set around

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now get country. If you get
him on a plane, let me know,

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because I could be. I want
to be. I want to see

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that, and I will make us
stop in Texas for sure, please.

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Okay. Well, the second part
of that question, then, is if

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you're talking about being able to help
discover your pet's life mission, then how

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does knowing that help us grow as
humans? Because we're embracing the unknown and

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it's a very scary thing for all
of us. You know, we like

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to have it all figured out and
stick to the plan of living. But

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I will tell you that all the
most amazing things that have happened and my

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life happened, they were not planned. They were not planned by me,

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and I had to surrender. And
just like what Wilbur is doing to me,

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and now he's making me think about, okay, how can we touch

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more lives? You know, he's
taking me on this journey that I have

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no clue where we're going, but
I want to go with them because he's

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so inspiring. And so when your
pet is taking you on a journey again

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that you did not plan, embrace
those amazing teachings that are coming your way

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because you will be put out of
your comfort zone, but you will grow.

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You will learn things that you never
wanted to learn, that you didn't

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think about even and then you're going
to look back and say, wow,

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look at me. You know,
I've come such a long way. And

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now you take your pet too,
Yeah, nursing homes and next thing you

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know, you're building a course for
these people are surrounded, you know,

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around your your dog and the teachings
of your dog, and you see how

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what this dog is doing to these
people, and your dog is prolonging these

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people's lives because of the joy he's
bringing. And then it's taking you to

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a whole other life chapter that you're
going to write a book about it.

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You know, it's snowballing and you
feel so good about yourself and you're you're

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being more fulfilled. It feeds your
soul and you didn't even know anything about

411
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this, but your pet took you
there, and you they are going with

412
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your pets so beautiful. I can
really I appreciate that stepping into the unknown

413
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from myself and so now adding another
component of the pet coming along as well.

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That's that's a whole other level love
that. Okay, well one or

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the question I think we have time
for before the break? Maybe two.

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I found complete resonance in my own
work with logotherapy, existential health and crisis

417
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and my research and consulting and meeting
and purpose with your statement that you say

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boredom, lack of stimulation, and
lack of fulfillment are also common causes of

419
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illness among people and animals. I
know how that shows up in a psyche

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space. But how say more from
your vantage point? I see a lot

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of indoor cats, for example.
You know that are we don't let them

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go outside for safety reason. You
know, we don't want them to get

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hurt outside, but they are so
bored to death literally that they will develop

424
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diseases. They are not fulfilled.
Their body shuts down, just like their

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mind. So that's the biggest example. You know, it's a balance,

426
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and we need to find ways to
feed the animals souls one way or another,

427
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it varies. Each animal is very
unique and what's going to make them

428
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feel good. I have a cat
who loves music, and I have a

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cat who need to go outside,
and if he doesn't spend time outside hearing

430
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.519
the birds and feeling the grass under
his speed. He's miserable and you can

431
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:11.920
tell he's really grumpy, and that's
not good. And in the course of

432
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the human space and the work that
I do, that all that that boredom

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and lack of simulation shows up in
the existential vacuum, right, And that's

434
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where we see all this depression and
people doing create numbing out with alcohol and

435
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.240
drugs, and it's it's that's how
it shows up there. So that that

436
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statement, that part of your book
just really sprung out to me. That's

437
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just so important to talk about and
help our listeners who have animals to understand.

438
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:37.839
Yeah, safety might might be nice, but is it really helping your

439
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:44.319
your animal? Yeah? Okay,
one more thing before we go on our

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break, our next break here,
you also went on another thing that that

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grabbed me. As you say,
see you, if you are not on

442
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a path of fulfilling your life mission, you will eventually receive a wake up

443
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.920
call, and hopefully you will you
will recognize it. So I think all

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of our listeners, especially though seeking
their purpose, might find this hopeful but

445
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also concerning if they somehow miss this. So for me, my own wake

446
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.119
up call was my divorce. I
mean I was not being true to myself,

447
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.599
doctor Joanne, and I knew it
at the time. I knew I

448
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.559
was not living to my full potential
and I hated myself for it. So

449
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that's was my wake up call.
And I think my ex husband so much

450
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for making the call, because it
was the right call. But tell us

451
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:29.440
more about about this path of fulfilling
on your life mission that you're talking about.

452
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Like you said, you won't miss
your your call or your wake up

453
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.119
call if you stay in your heart, if you stay true to yourself.

454
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So when anything feels wrong, don't
dismiss that feeling inside. And that's mainly

455
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what it is. You know,
we tend to let our brain make the

456
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:48.400
call when our hearts says, oh
no, this is not good for me,

457
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.599
this is toxic for me, even
and so and then you know,

458
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I don't believe in coincidences. Things
happen, signs of guidance, synchronicities,

459
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.920
things happen in life. And it
starts being subtle, but then it can

460
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:07.119
get bigger, like an illness or
like you lose your job, and just

461
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.319
pick up on those things and instead
of again, don't feel defeated, look

462
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.519
at it as what's the blessing here? What's the lesson? And how can

463
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.319
I how can I move on with
this and really turn it into my advantage

464
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:23.680
because it will it's worth listening to
and you know you'll achieve a better situation.

465
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:29.359
I see life as a book like
a series of chapters, and chapters

466
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.759
will end. So recognize that when
the end, when you know the universe

467
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.480
somehow is pushing you to move into
a different state or don't resist, and

468
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.000
don't resist and don't dismiss, and
you'll be aware of your designs are there

469
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.880
if you just pay attention. And
it's really simple. And again they'll get

470
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.400
bigger for you, so they'll become
more obvious. Just look at them straight

471
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.000
in the face and don't be scared. Just think about me. And Ellie

472
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.079
has gone through a lot. I
mean it's tough. It's tough, but

473
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:57.839
it's worth it and you are worthy. You know, you have to choose

474
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.119
your own life and say, okay, I'm fighting for my happiness here.

475
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:07.680
And absolutely it was a very worthwhile
journey. I'm so grateful, so grateful.

476
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.039
All right, with that, let's
take our last break. I'm Elise

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Cortez, your host with It on
the Ear at doctor Joann Lefevre. She's

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a veginarian promoting intuitive medicine, and
she joined today from Florida. After the

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break, we're going to get into
what we can learn from animals to become

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better individuals and collective humans. Stay
with us, We'll be right back.

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Elise Cortez is a speaker and engagement
and development catalyst. She designs and delivers

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professional development, leadership and engagement workshops
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483
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She will help ignite meaningful development within
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484
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485
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your organization, please visit her at
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would welcome the opportunity to help get
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working on Purpose with Elise Cortez.
To reach our program today, send an

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email to Elise ali Se at Elise
Cortez dot com. Now back to working

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on purpose. Thanks for staying with
us, and welcome back to working on

490
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purpose. If you're just tuning in, my guess is doctor Joan lefeb She's

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a veterinarian promoting intuitive medicine, and
she guides families and tuning in with their

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00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.880
pets, themselves, nature in the
universe to make better medical decisions. Doctor

493
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.920
Joanne is the author of Animal Teachings
from Haley's Angels Methods. I'm your host,

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00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.160
Elise Cortez, So for this last
section here, I really want to

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talk about the kinds of lessons that
we can learn from animals become better people.

496
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And the very first thing I want
to talk about is there's I've heard

497
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:58.960
some people say, just emphatically and
definitively, that animals don't have emotions.

498
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.160
I've always believe that they do,
especially having pets of my own. So

499
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:06.000
how might you persuade someone who really
does not believe this that is so?

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And how do you know that they
have emotions? You know all the animals

501
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.599
that I have been around, so
I'll give you examples. One of our

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00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.679
cats is definitely in tune with us
emotionally. So when we're having a bad

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00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:23.320
day, he'll just come be with
us next to us, and he'll just

504
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:28.719
extend his foot and put it on
our hands and just like, hey,

505
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.440
I'm here, don't worry. I'll
make you feel better for you. The

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00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.440
amount of grieve that I see from
animals when they lose a loved one,

507
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:44.039
whether it's a human or an animal. If they will grieve, you know,

508
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.239
they get really distraught, they get
really sad when they lose a good

509
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.320
friend. They will visit their grave
if they have the opportunity. Some animals

510
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.119
like cows, you know, will
grieve. We'll go to the grave like

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00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.800
for a couple of weeks if they
have the opportunity. There's so many stories

512
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.639
along those lines that I have seen. I went to help two dogs at

513
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.599
the same home two different times,
and they have a little bunny there named

514
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:15.079
Teeter Tott, and Teeter Tot both
times was sitting next to the dying one

515
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.800
and he never got afraid of me. He was there to bring his moral

516
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.039
support. I mean, it was
just amazing to see the connection. They

517
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.920
understand what's going on. They do
well. I can. I'll tell you

518
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.360
just briefly when I lived in Real
Divisionary, Brazil from ninety one to ninety

519
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.519
three, and I had several animals
down there. One of them was a

520
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.400
Siamese cat and I called her don
Daka which means pressy lady. And I

521
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.400
got these two little kittens, new
kittens and she was so jealous, Doctor

522
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.360
Joeanne. She wanted a hunger strike. And I took rit of the bed

523
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.400
and he said, has someone been
beating this animal? I said no,

524
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.599
most certainly not. And he said, are there new pats, new animals

525
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:53.199
in the home. I said,
yes, of course, they've got these

526
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.199
two new little cats. He goes, well, yes, heartbreak, definitely,

527
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.480
heartbreak. Yeah, so she just
sulk around the house. I had

528
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.599
to show her again that I loved
her, and then she was fine.

529
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.480
Yes, I see that often,
absolutely, And if you want to see

530
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.360
happy dogs come to my house.
When I say the word ride, who

531
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.239
wants to go for a ride?
You will see the happiest dogs on hers.

532
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.199
My god, we cannot say that
word unless we have the keys in

533
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.760
our hands ready to get out at
the door, because these dogs are gonna

534
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.159
go completely nuts, right with Wilbert
running right behind them, for sure.

535
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.800
Yes, just honking away and just
yeah, let's do it, bark bark

536
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.880
and spinning around the house. And
oh they they're full of life and emotions.

537
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.639
There's no doubt there. Yeah.
So to that, and further,

538
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.800
there's a couple more things I want
to I want to dig on that you

539
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:47.320
say that the animals are the best
teachers. Why they have never failed me

540
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.599
or disappointed me. Since I was
young, I always had the why questions,

541
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.559
you know, my mom I did
not know what to answer me.

542
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:59.280
It's like, well, why is
this? Why is that? And animals

543
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.559
have always answered all my questions and
still do today. When I look at

544
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:07.480
society and you know the difficulties that
the world is going through, and I

545
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.679
look at the animals, I look
at them act and behave, and it

546
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.519
makes sense. They always have the
answers and we should really listen to them.

547
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.639
The world would be a better place. I completely agree. And I

548
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:24.519
already introduced my pets from my elementary
school years, Sugarfoot, my horse,

549
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.840
and my sixteen cats, and I
just want to share that for me,

550
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.760
those animals really enriched my life and
they taught me so much about the world

551
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:36.480
that I lived in and helped me
become more of who who I was and

552
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.480
wanted to become. And they taught
me about respect and relationship. I had

553
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:45.880
to earn their relationship, earn their
trust, earned them being with me,

554
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.679
and that elicited something from me.
And I know you understand that, dodgor

555
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.760
Joan, but it really it was
so enriching and so powerful, and then

556
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.639
just the care, the ongoing care
that it took to take care of them.

557
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.239
That taught me something too about discipline, about you know, being of

558
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:07.159
service and doing something for someone else. Absolutely, I'm so grateful that you

559
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:13.360
have experienced that as well, because
it's they make us so rich. You

560
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:16.360
know, all those experiences are worth
billions of dollars. I mean, nothing

561
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:22.679
will replace the bond with an animal. Yeah, I completely agree, And

562
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.079
so into that end. One of
the things that I'm really fascinated and with

563
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:34.039
regard to philosophy is one I am
interested in the idea of Now I've just

564
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.079
lost the term for it. I'll
get to it a second, but it's

565
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:40.440
the idea that we really can understand
and embrace both genders. So whatever that

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00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.840
term is, I'll get to in
a second. The other one that I

567
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.519
really want to get to for this
conversation is this is if we can as

568
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.280
humans to let go of this idea
that humans are the center of the universe,

569
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:57.719
right that this anthrop anthropocentric perspective,
and so part of that, I

570
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.360
think is if we can start to
recognize what we can learned from from animals

571
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and that they do have emotions.
They and now you're teaching us that they

572
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even have a purpose and a path
that they're they're they're navigating. That opens

573
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:15.079
up a whole new space for so
many people, myself included. So just

574
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.400
a couple of lessons I wanted to
dive into here. You say that animals

575
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.559
teach us unconditional love? What else
tell us more about? What can we

576
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:29.960
learn from animals? They have given
me and I see how they give others

577
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:37.159
what people fail at giving to one
another, which is being present on conditionally

578
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:43.519
loving someone through thick and thin.
You know, we all make mistakes and

579
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.519
we need to be supported and forgiven. You know, animals are always there

580
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:52.199
supporting us and forgiving us and waiting, just being patient for us to figure

581
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.320
things out. We are definitely not
the center of the universe. I agree

582
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:58.960
with you. I think animals might
be. So we need to look up

583
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.079
to them and be good students.
They know, they don't judge us.

584
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:07.199
They keep everything simple. They're so
authentic and honest and just genuine. They're

585
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.239
just they're just themselves. You know, they show their true colors, and

586
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.480
they keep everything simple in life,
and they make us play. They remind

587
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.719
us to keep it fun. You
know, life should be fun. We

588
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.800
should be silly. We should go
play outside and and laugh, you know,

589
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:27.320
laugh a lot. We should look
at the bright side of life always

590
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:31.480
and be grateful, have a lot
of gratitude for what is instead of complaining

591
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.400
about what's not. And this,
and you know, we get really we

592
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:40.280
bump each other out a lot humans, So animals will help us be more

593
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:45.079
like, be more balanced like they
are, and to slow down, take

594
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time to live and enjoy enjoy life. One of the things I stumbled across

595
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.440
as I was preparing for this conversation, and I don't know, I don't

596
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.039
know what the research is behind this, but I do want to share because

597
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.159
it's fascinating. And it goes back
to again trying to get away from that

598
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:07.239
anthropocentric viewpoint. But I read that
dolphins call each other by name, and

599
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.719
elephants comfort upset friends, which I
believe I did understand, and primates use

600
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.199
tools and other kinds of things to
be able to navigate their world. And

601
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:22.360
those sound remarkably like human sorts of
things that people might be surprised at.

602
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.440
You. Yeah, yeah, there's
harder than we give them credit. I've

603
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.000
heard. Yeah, I've heard about
all of those things that the dolphins have

604
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.440
so many sounds. There's they're one
of the smartest animals. They have so

605
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.800
many different sounds, like they have
their own language. So yeah, yeah,

606
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.880
we don't give them enough credits.
They are amazing. One of the

607
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:43.480
things I like about that, and
again one of my reasons for wanted to

608
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.480
have you on the show is part
of what I when I'm out working with

609
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:51.199
executives and teams to be able to
help them discover and further develop their their

610
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.480
meaning, their passion, their inspiration, and their purposes is to get them

611
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.800
more present to the magic of the
world around us. That just opens a

612
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.440
new space for them and it changed
forces their mental models to change to accommodate

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that experience. So that's part of
what I'm trying to do when I'm working

614
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with them. And so one of
the things that you said that I think

615
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is quite interesting here is if we
can start to really experience animals as the

616
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gifts and teachers that they are to
us, that would certainly change our mental

617
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model absolutely. And it's easy.
You know, when I tell adults go

618
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back to being a child inside,
and that's where animals are in their heart

619
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and that's where children are in our
hearts. You know, when you're young,

620
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you don't care about what other people
are going to think, or you're

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afraid of being a certain way.
No, you just you're so passionate about

622
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the potential that you have, what
wants to come out of you, what

623
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you love, you know, and
you go with that, and yeah,

624
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that's really the way to be.
Well. Another thing that you mentioned in

625
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one of our exchanges too, though, what we can also learn is just

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honesty, authenticity, being genuine,
just showing your true colors. Say more

627
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about that. How do we learn
that from animals? You'll know you know

628
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this well. I see how animals
are the best judge of characters. They

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will people tell me, oh yeah, my dog, I should know.

630
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I should have listened to him.
He did not like my ex girlfriend or

631
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:19.000
my ex boyfriend. You know,
they are they are just simply telling us

632
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as is. And in the hospital
the same thing. You know, I'm

633
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.719
very very respectful of patience, and
I tried to work with them. We're

634
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.360
trying to have this dialogue of Okay, I need to help you, but

635
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it might hurt a little bit,
and and I want them to tell me

636
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.559
how they feel and They always keep
me abreast of what's going on, so

637
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I know always where I stand.
With an animal, there is an open

638
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:45.320
communication with people. You don't know
where you stand. You know they'll tell

639
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.239
you one thing, they'll think the
other. So I I do. I

640
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.440
do have more animal friends than people
friends for that reason, the trust is

641
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.559
there. Yeah, I can.
I appreciate that you're making me think of

642
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.840
something. I want to ask you
what your doctor doing, and that is

643
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:04.679
do you have you do you believe
or that different people have different abilities to

644
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.039
connect with and understand animals more so
than others. I think we were all

645
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born with intuition. Let's call it
that. You know, children are very

646
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intuitive again because they are in their
heart. But then as we grow older,

647
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our brain takes over. And that's
what society is teaching us. You

648
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.199
know, use your brain and you'll
be smarter, you'll make better decision.

649
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But I really find that, no, we need our heart. Obviously we

650
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need our brain, but we need
our heart to to keep that connection because

651
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:39.039
often our brain fails at making good
decisions or we don't have enough knowledge for

652
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:42.920
the brain to make a decision.
So when we go back in our heart

653
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.480
and feel our way through life and
understand the animals or wildlife. You know,

654
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I've gotten a lot of messages from
nature, from wildlife when I'm about

655
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.159
to make a bad decision with my
brain. You know, I came across

656
00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:00.159
a rattlesnake once in Arizona and he
had a message for me. Believe me,

657
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.480
he made me rethink a lot of
things that we're going wrong in my

658
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:08.760
brain at that time. So I
stay in tune with all that you are,

659
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:12.199
all that your body has to offer, and that includes the heart,

660
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.559
so you can really feel your way
and make better decisions. That is beautiful

661
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.679
dotr Joan and I will say a
completely echo this notion of the intuitive intelligence.

662
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:23.920
And I think more and more people
are starting to embrace how important and

663
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:29.039
powerful that is. And it's certainly
not something to just to sort of shoes

664
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.519
shoe, But I know Steve Jobs
talked about it in his career, and

665
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I do more and more see that
being in tune with that is so critical.

666
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.920
And the reason I asked the question
about it if you thought more people

667
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.760
it could be connected with animals is
my daughter of sixteen, has never met

668
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.639
an animal that doesn't just love her. I mean, she can walk into

669
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:53.440
a room and they just find her. They just they're on her. And

670
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I think part of it is because
she's just got this really beautiful, soft,

671
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:05.440
appreciative energy about her. Yes,
and it will shape her next next

672
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.559
step in life or her career path
also, I'm sure. So that is

673
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:15.719
wonderful. Yes, animals do pick
up on who where we're at in our

674
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:20.440
openness, let's say. And I
like it when animals will pick on the

675
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:25.239
people who hate animals. You know, this one cat will just relentlessly jump

676
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.360
on this one person the lap who
does not care about animals. And I've

677
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:31.559
seen it, you know, I
laugh because I know that, Oh,

678
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.719
give this a few weeks, a
few months, not even you know,

679
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.599
a few days, and then this
person is completely changed. It's like,

680
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.599
oh my god, I can't live
without this cat anymore. He's my cat.

681
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.159
Yeah, he picked me. One
of the other things too that I

682
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.199
read that might also fit along with
what you're up to, is I read

683
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.800
that this what we can also learn
from animals is to live lightly, because

684
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.519
animals live in tune with the planet
and they can serve resources. What do

685
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:04.079
you think about that? Absolutely,
we don't need all this stuff. We're

686
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.840
always you know, buying too much, and it makes me sad because sustainability

687
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.639
is huge for me. I try
to recycle and reduce, you know,

688
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.239
what I buy. I try not
to buy anything really, so when when

689
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:20.880
you look at the animals and how
little they need, I'm not even comfortable

690
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.280
anymore. Like in my own house
being in between four walls, you know,

691
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:29.320
I'd rather sit outside in the grass. So I love it because it's

692
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.159
healing. To science. Science science
has proven that grounding, touching the earth

693
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.880
is healing. It's actually really healing
for the body. And some babies got

694
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:43.880
healed from their colleagues. And so
I love to just go be outside with

695
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.840
the bare minimum and do like the
animals do, and that is truly the

696
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.840
way to live. I agree.
That's beautiful. Well, here we are

697
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at the end, just saying about
fifteen twenty seconds started to win. What

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00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:00.480
would you like to leave our listeners
with. There is only one person like

699
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:05.280
you, so go for it.
Do everything you want to do in your

700
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life. Live each day like it's
your first day here and also like it's

701
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:13.199
your last day, and share your
share your gifts with the world. You

702
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.760
can do it. That's beautiful,
that doctor, Joanne. I'm so glad

703
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.679
we found each other. I so
appreciate that you reached out and here we

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are. I got to share you
with my listeners and listeners. If you

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00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.840
do want to learn more about doctor
Joanne, you can look at her website.

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