Circles: Women Creating Sanctuaries of Care

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential. Business can be

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such a force for good in the
world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want

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working on purpose. Now. Here
is your host, Doctor Elise Cortes.

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Hi are welcome back to the Working
on Purpose Program. Thanks for turning it

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again this week. I'm your host, Doctor Release Cortes. Don't you lie

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from Dallas, Texas, which is
home base for me. If you don't

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know me yet, I'm a management
consultant specializing and meaning and purpose, organizational

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logal theory, therapist, inspirational speaker, social scientist, and author. You

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can learn more about me and how
we can work together at Atleastcortes dot com,

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Orgustodashnaut dot com. Let me thank
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dot com. With us today,
who is Susan Lucci who is passionate about

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encouraging women to reconnect to their essential
nature and bravely turn up their soul shine

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to bring more of their authentic selves
into the world. She has a Purpose

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Guide and has developed the Circle model
to bring women together through the ancient archetyct

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to facilitate more soulful conversations and create
more engaged communities. She has a chapter

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in the book Purpose Rising, the
global movement of transformation and Meaning, which

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is how I originally came across her
and then ask her to come on the

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show. Today, we'll be talking
talking about the state of purpose in the

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world, learn more about the circle
work she does and explore the movement she

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sees emerging the culture of care.
She joined us today from Chicago. Susan,

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Welcome to working on purpose. Helloly, So I'm happy to be here.

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It is so great. You know, it's so great when when I

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read someone's work and then I reach
out and that kind of starts stalking you,

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right, So then I reached out
to you on LinkedIn and I found

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you in the Global Purpose Leaders group
and you really couldn't get away from me.

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So thank you for finally saying yes
and coming on. Thank you for

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stalking Why not? I've met so
many amazing people doing that and I haven't

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gotten arrested once yet. It's great
yet. Yeah. Well, I just

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love how you describe your journey to
purpose. We want to start there,

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since we're going to situate this first
part of the conversation around the purpose in

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the world, and I just want
to start because purpose is one of those

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kind of things that kind of we
get it reveals itself to us, is

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one way to see it. And
one of the things that you say in

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your work is you say, your
first interpretation of your purpose was as a

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lawyers advocating for other people. But
there was something particular about that experience that

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really started to help you resonate with
your purpose. Let's start there, all

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right, great? Uh, yeah, that that seemed to be what I

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was here to do. As a
little girl, I was in my dad's

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law firm, and as the oldest
child, was always gently prodded to speak

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up for others and stand up for
allies on playgrounds. So I've been doing

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that for decades now and really took
a lot of pleasure out of out of

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speaking up for people who could not
speak up for themselves and whether that was

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then negotiating for them uh in law
firms and and also some of my coworkers

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speaking out for them when they needed
to be represented in that kind of thing.

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So I love that word advocacy.
I still do that in lots of

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different ways today, but at the
heart of it is that word voice,

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you know, the Latin word vocal. So about that and helping people to

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really activate their potential by finding their
voice is where it has evolved into.

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From that point, I want to
echo that price you just said right there,

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and it's so beautiful activate their potential. Oh, talk about exercising agency

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in the world. That is so
beautiful. Yeah. The way I hold

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purpose is if you think about an
acorn becoming an oak tree, and it's

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all potential that becoming that happens between
the seed and the firsting open and all

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of the moving through the environment to
become an oak tree. And each of

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us have that same intelliquy, that
same potential in us, and it is

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shaped a lot by our environments.
But there's also that acornness or that a

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leastness, that soonness of each of
us that I think is the fun revelatory

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process that you referenced. I love
how sad. Yeah, that potential and

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it's within us, and it's also
between us, right, so even more

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is activated between us in our conversation. Absolutely in this conversation what we're gonna

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talk about a little bit later with
your circle's work, for sure. So

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now I want to drill down a
little bit deeper here, which I think

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is so interesting what you did and
some of the reading that you started with

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me, or some of the writing
that you shared with me. I think

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it's interesting that you started to reflect
somewhere in your life. I'm not sure

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where this happened, but you go
on to depict that your monassory teacher and

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mister Rogers I love that play to
eat you rolls and helping you discern your

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purpose. So now I want to
This is great for our listeners and viewers

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who are many people listening because they're
trying to discover their purpose, right,

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that's why they're here. So how
have you come to understand your purpose to

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day and its expression going back through
those experiences and those people, Yeah,

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really really through moments. Those are
actually two more recent reveals to me in

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the last I would say four or
five years. And there was a day

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we will talk more about circle,
but sitting in circle where I came out,

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and I had a memory of being
a little girl sitting on a taped

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on a rug where the circle was
taped and just looking left and right,

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and there were children of all different
colors rare in my in my then upbringing,

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but I was there. I was
two years old sitting on this circle

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with Miss Jennie, who has since
passed but remained in my life for many

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decades. And she called me the
Center Room baby. Was the Montessory Center

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Room in Cincinnati that my mom and
her twin sister founded, and she called

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me the Center Room baby because I
was the youngest that had ever gone.

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I wasn't even two when I was
going. But the culture we had there

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that was so inclusive and so diverse
and learning about other cultures. At one

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point I thought we were in Peru. I mean, the way she could

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just help us really embrace other cultures. And I grew up in a very

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strict My mom was very strict and
very she really betted, you know,

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anything that we that we took into
our bodies. But also TV was very

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limited, but mister Rogers Neighborhood was
a show. And watching the film that

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was made a couple of years ago
really reminded me of that deep love to

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be neighborly and how that even from
a very young age, we would shovel

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the snow on our neighbors driveways before
we shoveled our own snowa It just was

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part of my family culture growing up
to be neighborly. And if I bring

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that all the way forward to COVID, I would say connecting with new neighbors

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was one of our survival mechanisms here. So I really treasure along with the

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diversity that mister Rogers stood for and
how he was talking to the mailman and

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inviting people in and so many radical
edgy moves for the time. So that's

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that's something I could I could then
learn and watch that movie and it just

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broke broke open in me that memory
of how deep my love for community and

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inclusive community went. I can virtually
guarantee you, Susan, that you have

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just opened something and listeners and viewers
who heard you say that, including me,

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because I was also very attractive to
mister Rogers, and I now I

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recognize it. It is because I
align with his whole value and notion of

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the goodness in the world and aspiring
for goodness and being kind. And so

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there's something listeners and viewers. What
I'd encourage you to do from what you

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just share it is consider what did
you gravitate to when you were younger?

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What did you watch? Why did
you was? What was there for you?

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So that share was beautiful, Susan, and wholly unanticipated. Thank you

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very much. Well, so here
we are in a world it's twenty twenty

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one and you really can't go anywhere
without hearing two words in one day,

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meaning and purpose. And so there
seems to be really an obsession with purpose

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these days, and there's a lot
of confusion as both you and I know

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about what that actually means. There's
overuse and under use of that word,

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but there's an elusiveness to it as
well. So I'd love your perspective as

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somebody who is a purpose guide is
how what do you see about this?

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Is? Are we obsessed with purpose? What's going on with this? Well?

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I think we are bothered by a
huge, huge expectation around purpose.

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I myself went through this too,
where I thought that to be on purpose,

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to know my purpose meant I had
to change the entire world and that

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it was all squarely placed on my
shoulders, and if I wasn't doing something

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about it that had impact and could
be measured and value, then I was

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just not purposeful. And I have
since heard that from a number of clients.

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Is, but that's not purpose.
But that's not big enough, that's

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not impactful enough, that's not changing
the world. And so I've like,

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Wow, we really need to bring
this down to its essential nature, which

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is in your tagline an ache for
meeting. And to me, the moments

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that I have felt most embodying my
purpose have been when I was needing that

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ache for meeting in the world and
doing something with it and moving it into

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the world, or being a presence
that was drawing that in or connecting with

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other people. So I think our
minds. I've gotten a hold of that

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word purpose, which is an ancient
concept as far as I can tell,

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Aristotle was teaching about purpose and it
is essential to our nature as human beings.

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And then somehow along the way it
got taken off, probably through you

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know, consumer capitalism, that it
had to be saving the world. And

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so I think, I think covid. I think our times now have really

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helped us land this to embody it
that we are meaning makers. We are

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we are Homo sapiens, those who
know that we know, and I think

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that is what gives us the juice
of life is when we make meaning.

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And the older I get, the
more I'm reminded that it's up to me

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to do that. You know.
I've been through a lot of education as

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you have too, and read a
lot of books. People can teach you

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things, but when you make meaning
for yourself, that to me is the

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most alive. I feel me too. That's my jam, meaning and purpose.

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I love it. I've been doing
it, you know, and it's

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my ache. Right to your point, what one of the paths to purpose

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is by really exam what ails you
your whole life? What have you learned

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by being obsessed with something that has
bothered you. And I was bothered about

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the lack of meaning and purpose and
that's why I do what I do today.

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So yeah, it's amazing and that
brings us to where we've been for

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the last fifteen sixteen months, this
whole COVID thing. And one of the

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things that you and I talked about
in our exchanges is how COVID and the

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quarantine has created some perfect conditions for
a purpose journey. I want to hear

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more about your perspective on that.
I have my own, but let's hear

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yours. Yeah. Well, it
is interesting that in some zoom calls,

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of the many zoom calls, I
was on, look at the rectangle that

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we're in as our cocoon, right
as this alchemical cauldron for are activating our

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purpose. But when I guide someone
through a purpose journey or a company of

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them on their journey, it's months
long. The way that I was taught,

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and about two thirds of the way
through, we actually create the conditions

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where they can separate, They can
leave home, get out of the ordinarry

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the daily be immersed in nature as
much as they are comfortable and really slow

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down to the speed of the soul. And so if I look at even

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those three parts, I mean that's
what COVID did. I wasn't many weeks

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into it when I was like,
oh my gosh, here we are.

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We are completely separated from each other, from what we call normal, you

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know, this daily way of living
we are. The quiet around here,

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even in Chicago, was just so
beautiful, the stillness. I noticed people

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just getting outside no matter what.
We had a really terrific winter in Chicago,

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three feet of snow, but we
were all getting out. There was

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something really interesting about us being in
nature and then having that time to reflect.

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I noticed a lot more conversations about
what matters. Mokest we started talking

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about what's essential. Essential workers have
always been on our planet, in our

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cultures, right, nurses and teachers. Suddenly it's like, what's essential.

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We're cheering for them, We're tying
white ribbons around what's essential the big question

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on a purpose journey. So I
was like, here we are right the

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middle of a purpose crisis slash opportunity
and sharing that moment together, and I

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don't think we've yet unpacked exactly what
has been happening. No, it's continuing

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to unferral. I want to go
back quickly because you say so many great

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poetic things. I love the way
that you use language, and I really

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am getting a senensusan that I think
it comes from something really deep, not

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just in your person, but that
you're connected to across the world and in

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our collective past. That's kind of
what I'm getting from you. It's really

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beautiful. It's really beautiful. It's
kind of like almost like gobsmacking meat,

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which is such a great thing.
But one of the things that you just

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said is that it allows us to
slow down to the speed of the soul.

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That's so eminently quotable, slow down
to the speed of soul. So

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just my perspective on it is thinking
about it from the vantage point of how

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we're creating workplaces where we actually want
to come to work and we're going to

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actually thrive and do business and betters
in the world. One of the things

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that I think is really interesting.
And we were all packed and so our

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whole routine was stopped, which was
necessary, an important intervention, if you

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will. But then now here we
are, we've now changed and got some

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new perspective of what life and work
is and So now what I find interesting,

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Susan. In my work, I've
stumbled across this notion of the great

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resignation. I've written some articles about
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that really entails that it Depending on
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that anywhere from thirty three to fifty
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to change jobs in twenty twenty one. That's due to pent up demand for

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change, not feeling like they're growth
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not feeling appreciated in their current role, and lots of things needing a

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change in life, right, and
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live. There's all this charre that's
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on this notion of the change in
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are deciding to live. Yeah,
the big shift the quit and it is.

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on our door two weeks ago,
we're actually in the process of selling our

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house. So wow, I'm part
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for hire, looking for people to
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business has fifty job openings right now, So I'm really immersed in this and

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curious about it. It's in the
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asking these big questions and we woke
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I've heard that from a lot of
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working, and at so many different
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maybe from the constraints of what I
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that they're coming out with spring,
I'm hopeful. And I'm also seeing more

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intentionality and because of this, I
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because of the purpose journey here coming
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have seen a lot of death,
Alice. I mean, I know you

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lost your folks right before. I
love my mom. During COVID six hundred

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thousand deaths just in America more around
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right here. We got to see
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that'll waken something deep in us that
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I want, Here's the kind of
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the kind of work I want to
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employers are really listening. I think
we need some wage adjustments for starts,

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but I think the workability of our
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this demand. So I think it's
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of all of it. So for
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I think it's a really hard time. You know, I have a lot

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before we're going to go back to
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a lot not great about normal,
you know, so beautifully beautiful? Is

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that? I agree. I think
it's a great opportunity and it's very scary

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for people that don't like change and
adaptation. You're right, and the great

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resignation alsod just how unnatural the way
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part of what's written that in that
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crazy the way we actually have been
working really is? The crazy commutes,

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sitting in a cubicle, you know, long meetings, what are we doing

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here? So yeah, so much
we could unpack on that, But I

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also find it to be very exciting
and helping companies through this crisis is part

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of what I've been really up to
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Oh, that's beautiful. I'm so
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supposed to have, which we talked
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so don't tell anybody. Let's rub
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it's really great as people are listening. You know, I think we're listening

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because we're coming out of this place
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human quality that I didn't experience a
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I didn't experience a lot in the
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a great opportunity right now. Let's
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That's beautiful, Susan, what a
great way to take us into our

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first break. Emilie Cortes your host
Bruniara Susan Lucci. She is a soulful

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facilitator, circle convener and purpose guide. We've been talking a bit about purpose

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in the world. After the break, we're going to get into her circle

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work that she does. Stay with
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Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing
in meaning and purpose and inspirational speaker and

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author. She helps companies visioneer for
greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

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leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate
fulfillment, performance, and commitment within the

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workforce. To learn more or to
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on purpose. Thanks for starting with
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As I watch the pandemic continue and
we look for ways to help companies

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to lift and inspire them with ongoing
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Wellbeing webinar learning series called Grab your
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it out there if you're just joining
the program. My guest today is Susan

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movement of transformation and meaning. It
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host, doctor LESE. Cortes.
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I want to talk about the work
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first I want to situate really how
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which I think is really interesting and
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to resonate with this. But you
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raising three children, you longed for
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ache of so many other successful women
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it came from that ache and that
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yeah, I think it was because
I finally started sleeping through the night

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again after having big four years,
and I started reading again, and actually

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the book that Da Vinci code fell
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the sacred feminine, which is part
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and bought a house, and this
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already been laid off once as a
lawyer. My husband was laid off three

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different times as a lawyer and investment
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in this house and it was looking
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law firm, and my soul was
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like, oh, so I'm out
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kids are getting in school, I'm
starting to read again, and I started

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joining book clubs, thinking oh,
this is how I will be able to

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start having conversations, bigger conversations than
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the things of raising children. And
I just wasn't satisfied in the level of

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conversation. So I found myself just
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can ask these big questions that were
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would turn out, there was another
book. This time I danced by Tamma

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Keats that came to me and I
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and I had thirty women come one
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she did one coaching call. And
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bubbling in me and in my journals
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of the women from that night wrote
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going to do next? So we
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month, and it was great because
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reading. It was all sacred feminine
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bringing it in. I was playing
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listen to one person at a time
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matters. And it was really incredible, like transformational almost from the beginning that

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people and the women in that group
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they were younger, going back to
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incredible in that year what happened.
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you should do this, and I
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conversation and I do it uniquely by
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work and then also the power of
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been a lawyer and raised my kids. I had women come that had had

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had professions, worked in the corporate
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care of parents, and they were
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turns out that us slowing down,
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focusing on ourselves and me holding this
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to ask these big questions, and
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remembering who we are and sharing it
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gosh, Alise, I just heard
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we've been in situations where we've harmed
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or we didn't support each other because
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were practicing was this way of like, what if we uplift each other?

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dreams and our concerns and brainstorm together
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this like activation place, and before
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five of these a week with women
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we all have nine year old girls. Shouldn't we know this stuff when

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we're little. So then I started
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nine year old girls and practicing.
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art form that was just coming through
me as an archetype. To light a

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candle in the middle, to set
intention, you know, to meditate a

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little bit slow down so I could
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in here. It's just was magical. So I'm so grateful for that whole

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confluence of events. And maybe the
listeners are thinking too. Sometimes life just

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hands you this perfect storm. And
I could have gone back to a law

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firm, and something inside of me
that ached for something more said no way,

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no way. Well, what I'm
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one of the things that I can
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you and said it before, is
when I listened to you and I read

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what you shared with me, I
am very present that you have a unique

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vantage point, which I believe comes
through your ability. It's your purpose lens

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right, what you see in the
world that needs doing or that you can

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do. I really feel like you
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way that most of us aren't,
and it is part of your unique being

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and fabric, and that is what
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connecting us back through you know,
generations millennia. That's what I get when

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I talk with you. It's not
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of like, not just a mouthpiece, because there's much more to you than

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that. But I really get that
you're standing on you know, millennia of

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hearts, minds, and souls that
came before you. So I get that,

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and so we get the benefit of
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about, Wow, what does that
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hundred circles in eleven years and all
these ranges that getting the benefit of that,

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I can't even imagine that. Susan, what's that like? It really

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feels It's so beautiful. So every
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this, like you just illuminated another
aspect that I hadn't really articulated or put

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together before. So thank you for
that it's so fun, especially when purpose

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peaks get together. What it feels
like in the middle of being in circle

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is just complete and under joy It
just feels like opening to something that's way

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bigger than me. That's why my
website is too big for words, because

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even though I love words like you
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them, editing them. Circle experience
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I do really enjoy the preparation of
bringing in other voices and weaving them together

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because I think that part of that
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I think part of a purpose journey
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I think we need each other to
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it is helpful to bring in like
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It's just incredible, Like wow,
this is so present today in this moment,

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and I think that's part of that
remembering that there's something really essential here

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that I too, am part of. And so that often when we come

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to circle, the first piece that
I'll see them as their shoulders lower is

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they look around. They say I'm
not alone, and that feeling of I'm

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not alone that we all crave that
that ache to belong and so I think

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it's it's more than just these women
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to all these eons of humanity that
have been questing for purpose and meaning,

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that have been questing to make a
difference and seekers, you know, of

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which I am another one, and
then just holding holding open space for that.

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Yeah, I'm guilty, Yes,
I'm right there with you. Another

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word that I'm thinking of it for
you is conduit. You're you're you're a

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spokesperson, and I think that maybe
that's the reflection of your being an attorney

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and a lawyer, But then I
think of you as being a conduit to

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all this this this you know,
millennia of wisdom and tradition as well.

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very much feels like that in my
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called a force of nature, So
it does feel like a conto it for

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and even when I teach people my
circle model, I will never trademarket or

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copyright it because it comes through me, and early on I committed I have

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it in my journal that it will
be organic. Whatever this is it will

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be organic, can continue to evolve, and I'm just here to shape and

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shepherd and hold that however it wants
to. And so to me it's still

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it's still also advocacy. It's just
I'm not I'm holding space for others to

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really voice. And also this,
this shared consciousness, this what I call

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the we space, is what I
feel like I'm really a conduit too,

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and that's where we are wiser,
right, where all the potential potency lies.

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And also I think like you're saying, our ancient roots are history that

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we're connected to here m well,
and you're speaking out of transformation, right,

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So there is it's an elevational process, but in so doing it has

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to there's transformation involved in that bit
about what you're facilitating, transformation, connection,

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wisdom, consciousness. I mean,
it's there's so much happening. And

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the other thing that you just said
that's so beautiful and listeners and viewers is

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just so important that she you said, whatever this is, and so right,

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a lot of times, what is
bubbling up from within us, which

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is uniquely us, This is our
unique contribution to the world, and it

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is, in my view many ways
your purpose that is something that only we

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can do, and it's kind of
like just being obedient to that which is

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coming out of us and letting and
being of service through it. Absolutely,

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and when I guide people, it's
comes so naturally to us that often we

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don't credit it, we don't value
it, right, that's right. You

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look around, right, it's like, Oh, this is what everybody's coming

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to me for. And so I
think that's a big part of the journey.

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I know that's a big part of
the journey, is that I'll often

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have people say, you mean,
I get to just be me and that's

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a huge insight and it always happens
at a certain moment in the journey,

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and I love it. I'm like, yes, and what does it feel

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like? What is that like?
Now we get to know that? And

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I agree with you that it's it's
deeply encoded in our DNA that we now

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know carries both the trauma and also
the genius you know of our lineages.

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M hm mm hmm. So you've
been talking about facilitating these these groups even

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in your home and in the afternoon
and such, but you've also done this

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on a bigger, grander level for
many organizations. Just one I want to

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talk about. Uh, but this
whole idea of bringing humans together, and

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I know that you've done this for
large forms like One Earth Film Festival,

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which must have been amazing. So
how do you convene a group and facilitate

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something like that at a film festival? Oh gosh, it's so it just

441
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changes the game. In this film
fest, we just completed our tenth year

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and we're virtual and it's it's way
more even that than the sustainability. I

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should actually connect you with that leader
to have on here, that thought leader.

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She's amazing love to But what what
we what we've learned is that it's

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one thing in that case to watch
a film and feel like, oh good,

446
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I see something. Here's how important
soil is. But if we can

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then turn to each other, which
is that model is really turning to each

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other and beginning to unpack it what
resonated? Starting with our senses, what

449
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did I see? What did I
hear? What did I feel? What's

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touched me? And then begin to
move We move them along the arc of

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activation and would end in our model
if you imagine a room filled with hundreds

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of people and then they can't get
out of the room until they meet with

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all of our strategic partners who are
going to help them then find the exact

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way to activate this awareness that they've
just had this connection they've made to the

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planet, other people, and then
to move into activation. So that conversation

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piece is really at the heart of
it. And mostly we watch movies and

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just leave the theater, right,
and this model is about being really being

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together, and sometimes we have the
filmmakers and the directors. You really get

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to learn what's involved in this so
that you can care to really open up

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that part of I think that makes
us human and makes us actually want to

461
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do something we can't not right to
tap into that field. So holding those

462
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spaces is really fun because there's so
many people there and you know, there's

463
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a microphone, but I'm just again
playing with the energy of that room.

464
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And we've seen those the groups swell
over the years that I have facilitated that,

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and so then a certain kind of
energy builds in the room, right,

466
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this enthusiasm, and you're moved.
Actually you can feel that move part

467
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:30.319
of movement right that we are actually
going to move people to take action,

468
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to care more, to do whatever
part resonates with them. I think that

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would be amazing. You know,
it's one thing to go after watch a

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movie and go to a coffee spot
and have a cappuccino and talk through what

471
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you get from the movie or have
a glass of wine afterwards, but to

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convene a group and have it facilitated, that would be really yummy. So

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I'm in for the next one.
Yes, we have an amazing team of

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facilitators and every year we still revisit
the training. You know, is this

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the essential model? Is this?
Because it's worth so deliberate about it,

476
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and there's a lot of history even
to that model that we use. So

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I've been so fortunate to do that
in an activist kind of way that people

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can really feel good because that topic, like the environment, right our climate

479
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.079
crisis, can be so heavy and
it can be so overwhelming that that you

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don't know what to do. So
we're flipping that right and empowering people.

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And so some people like to write
and do the advocacy, some people like

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to march, but there's also all
kinds of other things that you can do,

483
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and so let's do it together.
Then you feel you realize like my

484
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:37.079
little action is going to be part
of these bigger actions and we emphasize that

485
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quite a bit too power, right, Yeah, so powerful to connect to

486
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something like that, that is great. So glad to have you and share

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you with my listeners and viewers.
I Alice Protess, your host. We

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are in the air with Susan Lucci, who is a soul for facilitator,

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circle convenor, and purpose guide.
We've been talking a bit about the work

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she does with circles. After the
break, we're going to talk about the

491
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movement she sees emerging in the world. Stay with us, We'll be right

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back. Doctor Elise Cortes is a
management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose and

493
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:12.079
inspirational speaker and author. She helps
companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and

494
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:19.039
develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused
cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and

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00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.800
commitment within the workforce. To learn
more or to invite Elise to speak to

496
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:28.800
your organization, please visit her at
Eleasecortes dot com. Let's talk about how

497
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:39.159
to get your employees working on purpose. This is working on purpose with doctor

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Elase Cortes. To reach our program
today or open a conversation with Elise,

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send an email to Aleise Alise at
Elisecortes dot com. Now back to working

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on Purpose. Thanks for staying with
us. Welcome back to working on Purpose.

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I mentioned in the first break about
the Grab You augusta well being webcast

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00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.840
learning series. The content of that
program is adapted from part one of my

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recently published book called Purpose Ignited,
How Inspiring Leaders ignite passion and Elevate Cause,

504
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.440
which is really all about awakening leaders
to their passion and their purpose and

505
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.199
helping to transform them too. Insirational
leaders who create a workplace where people actually

506
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want to come and will thrive.
If you're just joining us, My guest

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today is Susan Mucci, who,
among other things, is the co founder

508
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:30.480
and circle tender of Feel Real,
a benefit corporation devoted to co creating brave

509
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.320
spaces for people to engage in real
time, face to face, meaningful conversations

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online. He's calling in today from
Chicago. I'm your host, Doctor Lee's

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Cortes. Okay, so for this
next part of the conversation, let's just

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really dive into this. This is
where I really recognize, Susan, that

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you really are up to something in
the world, and I want to be

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able to read a small passage from
what you sent to me about what you're

515
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.159
shaping into a book, because I
want the readers to understand and get present

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to the way you use language.
Right, So I'm going to read this.

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So this is from an introduction that
you're working on for your book.

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It's to me, it's just tittilating, she says. Read along with me

519
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:10.440
to discover for yourself the new consciousness
weaving her way through communities of women connecting,

520
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.880
caring for, and uplifting each other. Wander along with us as I

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00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:20.119
share stories evidencing the emerging culture of
community minded activist and artists creating the change

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we desperately need. A feminine soul
is rising up, and she is marching

523
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:29.239
and running for office and changing policy
and creating new communities and impacting culture as

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she reclaims her sovereignty a new way
of being human is bravely and boldly revealing

525
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.440
herself in the heart of our country. I'm in, Susan, this book

526
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.119
coming out. When's it coming out? You're a part of it. You

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are part of this movement that I
see for sure. You know, when

528
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I was writing that part of the
book, I was also rereading Rachel Carson

529
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Silent Spring, which her wake up
call came from almost a dystopian although it's

530
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:00.119
not that unrealistic, but it was
a very here's what's going to happen we

531
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keep using toxic chemicals, and so
I kept thinking, what if? What

532
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if? What's missing is us seeing
a possible future that we that we already

533
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are becoming. And so that's that's
what came to me to write that.

534
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And as I was writing it,
I also know women that are doing all

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of those things, right, So
I think what I'm fascinaed by is there

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is a movement, there is an
uprising of women around the planet, and

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it just hasn't been named or noticed
in its entirety. So what if we

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make that visible? This this culture
of care that is being created and co

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created all over the planet. And
I saw a lot of that during COVID.

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How many people are holding circles,
for example, I met a lot

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of facilitators and I was just blown
away, Like here, I thought I

542
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.679
was holding up my piece of this
guy doing circles, and there's there's people

543
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around the globe doing circles. So
I and the other piece about this culture

544
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of care that I feel like I'm
seeing to like Paul Hawkins saw this blessed

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unrest with nonprofits forming a movement.
And if I bring it back our conversation

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from the first part about purpose,
like really what is purpose? And a

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lot of what's written about purpose is
about desire and passion and like following what

548
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.599
you love and following your bliss,
you know, Joseph Campbell's piece. And

549
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what I have learned is that,
especially with women, often we are most

550
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:29.480
on purpose when we're following our heartbreak, when it's actually and I'm not talking

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about the our thirteen year old first
boyfriend that we broke up with. I'm

552
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:37.880
talking about our deep heartbreak that we
can't not do something about that need in

553
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the world. So when I saw
women just like, oh gosh, do

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I have anything else to give?
You know? And I could just feel

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into the potentials, like all right, we got to get up to this,

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you know, and we've got to
support this and nurture this so that

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we can do that. And so
that's what a lot of my book is

558
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about and the challenges. I know
as a little girl, I was told

559
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don't wear your art in your sleep. It's dangerous. And in fact,

560
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I at one point I was graduate
spoking for a legator in bad case,

561
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and oh my god, did they
break my heart? And I came home

562
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because I love babies, and I
came home at night and it got to

563
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the point I thought, this is
too I'm too emotional. I cannot do

564
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this work. So I got into
the more corporate type work as well.

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Decades later, I have since come
to really appreciate and respect that our wearing

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our heart on our sleep is exactly
what's needed, and it's our superpower to

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really take our vulnerability, our compassion, all of these beautiful gifts of our

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heart that move us in the world, that make us do that work that

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we can'tnot do. And so I'm
really I've seen that. And that's what

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my book is about, is that
the culture of care comes through, especially

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this feminine energy, women waking up
to their heartbreak and just doing something about

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it, caring for each other,
running for office. It's incredible the numbers

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of women. I stopped after I
interviewed dozens of them. I thought,

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oh my gosh, how am I
going to capture all of these? There's

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so many, so I can't wait. This is so this is so great.

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Susan I just it's so interesting and
intriguing and compelling to listen to.

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It's not just listening to you,
it's being with you as you say,

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your your energy that's conveyed so much, and your passion, your conviction.

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It's it's this is fascinating. I
really don't want to let you go from

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my listeners and viewers, by the
way, so we'll be on for maybe

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a few more hours. You just, you know, get dinner ordered and

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we'll call it good. But one
of the things that you said, just

583
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in your as you're starting to articulate
some of these new thoughts here is you

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do talk about this new kind of
presence and power that's rising up on the

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planet, and you say it's uniquely
and fiercely feminine, and you and we

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and you talk specifically about how it's
embodied in our team climate activists. To

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Gretaumberg, I'm not sure how to
say her last name, but she brings

588
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so much insight and courage and in
her truth telling that's inspiring massive acts of

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protest and people coming along with her. And I think that's such a great

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example of what you're talking about.
Yeah, right, and so wonderfully surprising.

591
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I think for most of us to
be how old is she? What

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is she to do right? But
in her ferocity, how she can just

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right, and we have seen it
moves people right, and so I think

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there's juice there. I often will
say that we have not yet on this

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planet experienced Mama Bear's roar. A
whole group of women coming together, and

596
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.400
we care about our planet, we
care about our children, we care,

597
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:35.880
and just like that, really taking
that energy that fierce Mama Bear roar.

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And even though she's not a mother, I just think Greta. Greta embodies

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that right. She speaks from that
place and calls us into it, because

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it's very much then a week place. It's not the hero's journey model of

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I am Greta and I am running
this right. She's very clear with us

602
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.000
she'd rather be going to school and
doing what kids do right, but because

603
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.519
nobody else is up to this,
she has to. And so I see

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that in many different ways and shapes. And I think Shannon Watts, who

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started the Mom's Demand sense around the
gun laws and stuff like that, she

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talks about this too. I met
with her after an event here in Chicago,

607
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and I was talking to her about
that like, what is this power

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of women coming together because and it
comes from our hearts, what we care

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about, what we can no longer
stand to let happen in our communities.

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So this is, this is so
powerful. And I've been having so many

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really amazing conversations around if you will, the speakot of the dial or around

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the mic about these things. And
so this is really important that we talk

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about this next point and this whole
point of this new balancing energy that you're

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talking about that's rising up all over
the planet. And you say it's in

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response to toxic masculinity, oppressive patriarchy, and you're really talking about bringing more

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of a yin to an excessive yang. And this sacred feminine archetype can be

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embodied in both men and women,
of course, And what this is really

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important listeners and viewers. This is
the point that I want to make here.

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This energy is not against men.
In fact, this is this uprising

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is not against anything at all.
You're taking a stand for life, and

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it's the harmony that uplists others.
And it's really important that we talk about

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this because I think sometimes when we
either talk about what's happening for men or

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what's happening for women the other side
starts to feel picked on or what about

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us? And you're not saying that, you're talking about something what I would

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consider to be much more pure here. Yeah, it's absolutely what are we

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for? What do we care about? And uplifting that. A lot of

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us, a lot of the women
in circles, a lot of the women

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I purpose guide, have made it
in the masculine world, right. We

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have been lawyers and doctors and survived
in the corporate world. Now and there's

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something else, And I do see
this. I think there's plenty of books

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to be written about men and the
sacred masculine and that coming in and then

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the balance of the two. For
sure, what I have been seeing here

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is uniquely feminine, you know,
in women's bodies coming into their community,

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what they care about. But it's
it's very much the pro you know,

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the what do we stand forward and
moving in that direction. And it's also

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not not like this driven achievement type
way. It's it's a whole different in

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fact, sometimes we're just stepping back. Sometimes it's about the presence. Mostly

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it's about uplifting and centering other people, other people whose voices have not been

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heard other people who don't have access
to resources or systems that were that were

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really shepherding and working towards. So
it's very much communal, you know,

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and about groups. It's very collaborative, working together. It's very co creative.

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Even though an idea might come through
something I say or you say,

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it's about now, what do we
do together? Who needs to be part

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of this to create the kind of
world we want to live in. So

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I think we've learned the limitations of
the anti movements right, even energetically,

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they just do something very different.
If I talk to you, and you

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and I can have a whole conversation
about what I am against and when I

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do not, but that will not
energize. You'll notice a very different energy

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in me. So I think these
are the kind of conversations that I like

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to hold and have, Like what
do you stand for? What do you

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want your life to stand for?
When it's over? You know? What

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did what were you for? What
did you learn during COVID that you can

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bring out of that now and give
to the world because it's needed right now,

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you and I could complete your other
sentences, Susan, I just give

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a presentation today work of saying something
almost exactly like what you've been saying.

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And by the way, I did
actually get moved to tears at once at

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one point because I was reflecting on
something that inspired me. And so when

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we get inspired, sometimes we get
moved to tears and to your point where

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your emotions on your sleeve. And
so I like being in that world.

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That's the world I want to live
in. So to that point, I

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wanted to ask you about what is
your vision of the world as embodied in

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this movement toward a culture of care? What does that look like? Well,

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a little bit like what you read
earlier at the beginning of my book.

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And then I go what I want
to do is to go on in

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if this is a book or I
don't know what it's going, how it's

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going to come out into the world, but that it is stories of people

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acting in the world every day from
embodying their purpose to make it so that

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people can start looking around and going, oh, yes, my neighbor does

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that, Oh my husband does that. That they can see it and then

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we inspire each other. Something I
have really witnessed is that we can't become

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ourselves by ourselves. I do a
lot in my own self awareness and development

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journey, and I got to the
point where I was like, you can

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no longer sit on this cushion,
girl, you have got to get into

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the world. That's what I missed
most about COVID is bumping up against the

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world. That's where I learned the
most about my purpose, where of opportunities

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to give right so we, when
we humans, can really embrace that that

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all of this othering is holding us
back from the truth, which is belonging

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and becoming beloved community and that means
all of us that the circle has to

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be. You can go right back
to miss Janine on that circle in Montssory

680
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or mister Rogers. It's until we
are all part of this and as equals

681
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.159
in a circle model, right,
we are equals. Even if I'm facilitating,

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I am right here with you.
I'm going to be vulnerable with you.

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I don't hold any access to anything
greater than you. And so it's

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happening. I mean, in our
families, in our communities, we are

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we are being I think this better
version of ourselves, which is that we

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move from what we care about.
We've also learned so much about our emotional

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intelligence and Heart Math. I love
the Heart Math Institute. What they're discovering

688
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is, yeah, our brains are
fabulous, but our hearts, wow,

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five thousand times more that energy.
So this is just a one to have

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potential and it's best activated when we
come together, when we come together around

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something we care about, such as
like the kind of world we want to

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live in, and there are conditions
like COVID that are going to pressure us

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into that. I think the climate. You know, we see that,

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we just set a tornado in Chicago
two days ago. We see this climate

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and there are we're talking like what
are we going to do? How are

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we going to come together to really
survive this right and to nurture each other

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and live the lives that we want
to live together. Oh my gosh,

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Susan, that is a great way
to finish the show. We are out

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of time and you have been spectacular. I'm certain that our listeners and viewers

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don't want to give you up.
So you've got to find You've got to

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find her and connect with her.
So, Susan, thank you for sharing

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your heart, mind and soul with
us today. Thank you, Elise,

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It's been a pleasure listeners and viewers
you want to learn more about Susan Lucci

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and the work she is doing as
a circle tender and purpose guide, start

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00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.760
by visiting her website at Pursue Your
Purpose dot co. Again, that's Pursue

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00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.480
your Purpose dot coe and again thanks
to our partnering sponsor Workprout, which helps

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companies build a platform where your workforce
receives meaningful feedback and thanks for their work

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00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.920
from people across your company. Last
week, I you missed the live show,

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00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.800
you can always catch it be recorded
podcast. We were on the air

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00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.519
with Bob Graham and Yuhenya Douran of
Nama Stay Direct, talking about how this

711
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.920
nonprofit came to be as an expression
of Bob's promum mus to himself to go

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fifty to fifty at fifty, meaning
spend fifty percent of his life toward work

713
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.719
and making money and the other fifty
percent towards service by the time he was

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fifty and I'm now on that board
that as well, so thirty five years

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later, his work lives on in
this dynamic organization and that is dedicated to

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empowering watermall and business owners and entrepreneurs
women specifically with business education and micro loans

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to transform them from poverty to at
least middle class. Amazing group. Next

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week, we'll be on the air
with Charles Antis talking about his refusal to

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stray from being a cheerleader for good
while also stewarding a very successful roofing business.

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See you there. Remember that work
is at least or third of our

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life, So let's work on purpose. We hope you've enjoyed this week's program.

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Be sure to tune in to Working
on Purpose, featuring your host,

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doctor Elise Cortes, each week on
the Voice America Empowerment Channel. Together,

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we'll create a world where business operates
conscientiously, Leaders inspires impassioned performance, and

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00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:07.960
employees are fulfilled in work that provides
the meaning and purpose They crave. See

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00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.320
you there, Let's work on purpose.