Activating Purpose Through the Life Stages

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What's working on purpose anyway? Each
week we ponder the answer to this question.

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People ache for meaning and purpose at
work, to contribute their talents passionately

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and know their lives really matter.
They crave being part of an organization that

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inspires them and helps them grow into
realizing their highest potential business can be such

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a force for good in the world, elevating humanity. In our program,

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we provide guidance and inspiration to help
usher in this world we all want Working

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on Purpose. Now. Here is
your host, doctor Elise Cortes. Welcome

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back to the Working on Purpose program. That's you tuning in again this week.

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I'm your host, doctor Relei's Cortez, joining you live from Dallas,

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Texas, which is home base for
me. By way in introduction, if

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you don't know me, I'm a
management consultant specializing in meaning and purpose,

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organizational logo therapists, inspirational speaker,
social scientist, and an author. You'll

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learn more about me at at leastcore
test dot com or Gusto dashnow dot com.

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If you've been tuning in for a
while, then you know this program

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is a thought leadership series that enlightens, it inspires listeners and viewers with insights

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from distinguished business leaders, authors and
subject matter experts. By listening in,

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you're part of the movement to create
inspirational leaders in enlivening workplaces where we can

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thrive and do business that betters the
world. Glad you're here Now onto this

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Quik's program with us today is doctor
hollywoods. She is the founder of the

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Emergence Institute and a purpose activator,
best selling author, scientist, master coach

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and mentor, speaker, business consultant, and a visionary who sees deeply into

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your soul. Today we'll be talking
about her new book, The Golden Thread,

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Where to Find Purpose in the Stages
of Your Life, which demonstrates how

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to find the clues and hints about
your purpose throughout your life and to see

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that your greatest contribution emerges from that
clarity. She joined to today from San

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Francisco, California. Holly, welcome
to work on Purpose. Thank you,

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Lee, It's so great to be
here. Really looking forward to the conversation.

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I am too. And let me
just show our viewers your beautiful book.

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Dang it, this is gorgeous.
Look at this beautiful book, The

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Golden Thread. Oh my gosh,
Darling. You have produced really something magnificent

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and I really want to commend you
for that. And I enjoyed every single

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last read of the I think nearly
four hundred pages that it was so thank

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you for birthing it. Thank you
so much. I just appreciate that you

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read it. It just it delights
my soul every time somebody says they've read

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it and it was useful because it
was definitely something I had to birth.

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I can appreciate that. I can
say that, you know, I do

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that for all of my authors because
that's part of my journey as well.

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But just today, for the first
time, I was on somebody else's podcast

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and they did that for me.
They read my book cover to cover.

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I'm like, oh, that's what
it feels like. Okay, well,

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let's kick it off here. I
want to ask I want to open it

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with your purpose, and I want
to just do a little bit of a

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quote from your book and then have
you talk about it a little bit.

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It's so beautiful the way that you
say this, Holly, you say quote.

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I didn't know then that truth telling
would be a major part of my

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identity and my purpose at each four
and has become the psychic scalpel I used

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to help my clients uncover and claim
their purposeful lives. I'm one of the

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most blessed people in the planet to
get to see people's souls and call them

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to their life's work. Ah,
that's so gorgeous. Thank you. And

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you know, the truth telling part
is actually just one facet of my purpose.

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There are several facets that I have
clearly identified in truth telling is one

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of them. And as we'll talk
about, you know, each of these

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the facets of our purpose become illuminated
at different points in time, and they

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don't always appear, you know,
all at once, like it just you

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don't get some big download that this
is my purpose. Generally, it shows

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up in some way that you get
to express more in a more refined way,

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and it is demonstrated then as one
of those contributions that you make over

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and over and over the thing they
can't not do, which is how I

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talk about purpose. Yeah, me
too, Well, it's it's just it's

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so crisp and for our leaders,
for our host people who haven't who haven't

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actually read your book, and I
should say, tell us, what is

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the golden thread? So the golden
thread is what I call a through line

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in your life. I began seeing
this thread in my own life relatively early,

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but then I had the chance to
raise four kids to my own and

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two step kids, and then numerous
other opportunities in my life. I started

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seeing that there is a thread,
this through line that runs from birth all

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the way to you know, current
age. And there are some the facets

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of your purpose are being expressed in
one way or another, and they have

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some similarity to commonalities, but they
don't necessarily look the same to the person

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themselves because we can't see from the
outside. So as I work with clients

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and I did this especially for my
daughters who live very purposeful lives, is

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you get to see how this thread
weaves through your life and is attempting to

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pull you and push you and give
you a nuledge and you know, pull

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you along towards a more evolved expression
over and over in life. So it's

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it's that which just sort of runs
through you can't help but live it beautifully

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articulated. And then along those same
lines, I'd love for you to generate

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why purposes worth pursuing in life.
Well, one of the most important reasons

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that I experience and my clients come
to me is because they want more meaning

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and fulfillment. We as humans can
tend to live pretty empty lives if we're

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on the rat you and the rat
race treadmill, trying to make money and

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just accomplish the basic tasks of living. And we just sort of threw up

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our hands and say, is that
all there is? Really? That's the

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only reason I here on the planet. And so most people I work with

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and know in the world like want
something more. We know there's something more,

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and it speaks to us. But
the other reason is that we are

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here to make a particular contribution,
and that contribution is our purpose expressed in

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life. And if we don't make
that contribution in the many ways that we

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can make it in lifetime, the
many expressions, then nobody else is going

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to make that contribution. I mean, you look around at the world and

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you question why are things the way
they are? Is because so few of

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us are actual living purposeful lives aligned
with that which was our soul, trying

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to come back and do that thing
two things if I can to that.

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So the same way the experience you've
had hall when I'm out speaking and I'm

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sharing my message. Very often I
hear people reaching for and wanting something more,

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but they don't know what that's something
more is. So I followed a

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very similar track in that way to
start to do some of the work that

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I'm doing. And the other thing
that I wanted to speak to that you

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write about in your book that I
just really really liked is that you talk

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about purpose as the ultimate nourishment.
And so what I mean by that is

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that when we are living our purpose
and blessing ourselves with it, and that

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blessing is Tim Kelly phrase. I
believe that until we bless ourselves with our

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purpose, you know, for me, it comes in many forms, speaking

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powerful truths, shining love onto shadows. So I began to nourish myself probably

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in my twenties, as I began
to really begin to think about what my

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purpose was and understand how to deliver
it in the world. It's like,

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oh, I actually want some of
that. That's that gift that keep on

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giving. But I wasn't giving myself
any of that. And it's sort of

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the most basic fundamental form of self
love, right to nourish ourselves with that

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which is the deepest express one of
our souls. So I began to nourish

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myself, and I noticed that we
aren't literally able to give our purpose in

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the world fully until we can experience
the beauty and the depth and this magnificent

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contribution. You know what's so great
about that? What I got from that

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when when I read that part of
your book is I've known this before,

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but then when you when I read
those words from you, it was affirmed.

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The book that I just put out
purposely United, It's exactly that it

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is. It is my It's what
I wrote for me to help me,

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and I'm sharing it with my readers. So I just so got that.

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Yeah, I mean, it's we
are We are best serving the world when

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we serve ourselves and our lives first, because then we become fully potentiated and

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can contribute our gift even greater.
It's beautiful. So I want to get

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into into this with you. One
of the things you and I talked about

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before we got on air is that
you've got so many really big, beautiful,

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dense concepts that we wanted to be
sure and be able to treat them

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in our time together on air and
really let our listeners and viewers walk away

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to something really immediate that they could
put to work and start to process further

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in their lives. And so I
want to next to go into the three

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hypotheses that you talk about purpose,
and have you talked through each one of

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us though, so I know you
start with purpose is our GPS, So

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help us with that one. So, because you have this through line,

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this golden thread that is attempting to
nudge you and pull you along, if

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you are aware of it and aligned
with it, it always gives you some

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sense of direction and focus. The
clarity of purpose is really important for making

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choices about life, decisions that can
help you know if you're moving in the

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right direction or not. You know, not that there's a particular, specific,

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predestined way that we should live if
we're on purpose, but that as

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opportunity comes in, if we have
clarity, we can begin to make choices

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and we energetically and emotionally and psychically
feel, yeah, that's aligned with who

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I really am, or it's not, And I'm going to pass on that

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opportunity help guide us along even in
these difficult times of great uncertainty, beautifully

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articulated and totally aligned. And then
the next one which I don't know a

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lot about. Your second hypothesis is
that our purpose is hidden by our wounding.

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So in my work in my own
life, and you know, in

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my work with clients especially, I
came to see that we really don't know

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who we are until we can release
and or integrate the shadow that is so

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apparent in our lives. My conception
of purpose is that, you know,

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our purpose is always pulling us along, and it may actually pull us into

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a circumstance it's very uncomfortable or painful
if we, you know, are viewing

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it that way, and in fact
that experience is going to liberate something that

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causes us, has caused us to
day to be less than who we really

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are. So I do a lot
of work with clients on the shadow,

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integrating sub psychic parts, doing energy
work, releasing you know, old and

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more recent energetic blocks and karma,
et cetera, and all of those things

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high to purpose because we look like
something else other than who we really are

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until we can integrate the parts that
were repressed parts of us just quickly.

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My belief about purpose as it shows
up is that often the parts of us

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that are most unique and most expressive
of our purpose are the very parts in

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childhood that were those things our parents
said, Oh no, you can't be

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that. That's not what we do. You know, we don't. That's

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not acceptable in our culture. So
when we begin to integrate that part back

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into an adult's life, they magnify
that very unique, you know, aspect

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in themselves, and then their purpose, that element of purpose becomes really pronounced.

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I'm not sure if that was adequate. There's a lot there, I

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know. I just want to say
it's it's really profoundly compelling that aspect of

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your work, and I don't know
that I don't have an inquiry on that.

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So that's that's definitely a way that
you approach your work. That is

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is new for me, and I
just think it's very compelling. And then,

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of course your third hypothesis I certainly
understand well because you and I both

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have a PhD in human development,
and so we would of course studied lifespand

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development, psychology and the various stages
of identity, expression and development. So

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your third hypothesis is our expression of
purpose varies by developmental state, and I

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find that so inredibly compelling. Qually, the work that you've done on that,

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thank you. You know. So
I've been studying purpose for several decades

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when I began studying stages of consciousness
with Terry O'Fallon, who is both a

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scientist and an educator and a spiritual
being guide. And when I came across

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her work, it's like, oh, I have to know that, you

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know, this is my purpose,
saying like you got to go know that.

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And so I began studying with her. And after the first week long

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workshop I did with her, Oh
my head was filled. Was like,

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oh my gosh, this explained so
much, you know what I didn't understand

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about purpose, and so I immediately
came home it began mapping purpose across the

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stages of consciousness and our model and
like, okay, now I get it.

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And so this was I don't know, six or seven years ago,

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and I began this deep exploration about
how per and so that's when I began

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actually really testing it in my clients
to see how does it show up.

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And that's what led me to the
thread because I began to see that it

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looks different across the stages of our
life depending on consciousness. From this perspective

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is perspective taking you know, our
ability to see the world, the world

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view, and how we can be
in the world because of what we see.

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You and I could talk about this
for an hour properly, so just

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on that topic alone. He's like, let's never mind that hour less,

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So let me just come a Sanarich
this go. We'll hang out for the

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weekend or something. Right. No, it's beautiful and we're going to get

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more deeply into that, of course, but I think now is a good

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time to grab our first break.
I Relie Cortez, your host. We've

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on the year with doctor Hollywood.
She's the founder of the Emergence Institute and

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the Golden and the author of The
Golden Threat, Where to Find Purpose in

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the Stages of your Life. We've
been talking a bit about just why purpose

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is important and some of our hypothesis. After the break, we're going to

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go in a little bit deeper and
start to really get behind the scenes.

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Stay with us. We'll be right
back. Doctor Release Cortes is a management

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consultant specializing in meaning and purpose and
inspirational speaker and author. She helps companies

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visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and
develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures

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that elevate fulfillment, performance and commitment
within the workforce. To learn more or

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to invite Elise to speak to your
organization, please visit her at Eleasecortes dot

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dot com. Now back to working
on Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,

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and welcome back to working on Purpose. I want to say again,

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if you did, you armitated the
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is actually finally out. It came
out on November seventeenth. It's called Purpose

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Ignited, How Inspiring Leaders Ignite passionate
all that cause on Amazon. It's really

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been fun. It's definitely my pandemic
baby. That's what came out of out

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of my time at home. If
you're just starting the program, my guest

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is doctor Hollywoods. She is the
founder of the Emergence Institute and the author

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of The Golden Thread or Defined Purpose
in the Stages of Your Life. She

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went to today from San Francisco California. I'm your host, doctor Alice Cortes.

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Okay, so doctor hollywoods, let's
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to hear you generate this. We've
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framework, as I said before,
is just to me so profound. And

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so if first, if you would
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you know what's behind that? Why
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developmental advantage point? Why the purpose
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Yeah, so I don't and you
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say purpose is the only evolutionary force, but I do know that it is.

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It is an evolutionary force of significance, and you know, from my

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perspective, probably the most compelling for
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itself pulls us along. So as
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bring us here in order to accomplish
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these experiences in life. And if
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our life, not only are we
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but we are making greater and greater
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a sort of a self. It's
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if you want to call it that, because it continually feeds and nourishes our

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soul to become more and more of
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being on purpose is when we are
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who we are not so because of
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ourselves over time, continually, continuously, and so in that way it is

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a driver of evolution, at least
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I was very very intrigued, and
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the rabbit hole forever on the twelve
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book as the as the evolutionary framework. As you related to purpose being expressed

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for our listeners and viewers, well
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them how that framework works. Absolutely, and just again to reference that this

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is the work of Terry O'Fallon and
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have just have superimposed it on my
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think it's brilliant. Yeah, as
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Terry's work the Stages of Consciousness model. There are three tiers, and the

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first tier is concrete, the second
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is metaware. And the concrete tier
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you know, living in the material
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and touch and feel and name because
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are based in objects of awareness.
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tending to as we are aware of
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is the subtle tier. And when
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know, usually in late childhood adolescence, we begin to experience the subtle forms

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of life, and that would be
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our feelings and our impressions, and
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we and eventually we begin to experience
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then in the late part of the
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collectively. I'll come back to that
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metaware tier, So the object of
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that you can't see, and that
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And the metaware tier is the third
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There are others, but this was
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tier the object of focus is actually
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as we've known it, concrete and
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we did make it all up as
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and it worked until we get out
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actually, you know, that is
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those things are real as we're humans
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an awareness of the awareness of those
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even further to individual and collective.
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But that's the big picture of its
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that was BEAUTIFU. And I'll tell
you the way that you generated that helped

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me further understand from what you wrote
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I read the book cover to cover, But the way you just articulated

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that helped me better unstud even more
so beautiful, absolutely beautiful, And listeners

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and viewers, is this not fantastic? I mean really, yeah, Okay,

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so this is both of our jams, all right, got it?

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I'm right, so weird it.
It's working for us, all right.

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So the next thing I want to
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a little bit too, that I
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about it, Holly, is that
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experience a pull or a longing,
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passion, energy, creativity, or
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And you say all of these expressions
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or decision isn't in alignment with our
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it can show up as fear,
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if we're fighting against our wounding to
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compelling. Same about that, well, So I've described a couple of times

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here that because purpose is the evolutionary
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you know we're not going to know
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and I help my clients begin to
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So what is it you experience emotionally, energetically, mentally, psychically. There's

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all these you know, somatically,
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world around this. So when we
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awareness and it's an invitation. You
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something with friends, let's say,
and you get an like, ah,

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do I want to do that or
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what your body, in all its
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that aligned with the truth of me? Do I really is that something that

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really fits in the version of myself
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to become? And so we begin
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Well, I just wanted you to
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great because it's it's it's just what
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our viewers is to be able to
start paying attention to that pulling right once,

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because once we're in the I want
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sorts, that it's becomes for me
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expressions of life around us, and
we know what, we have some clarity

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about purpose, we're more likely to
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expressions that can be emotional. That's
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sometimes that you know, when we're
when we're touching something that is purposeful,

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that's aligned with who we really are, we get excited and expired and you

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know, just delighted and joy and
wonder and awe. But it can also

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be fear, like, Okay,
that feels aligned, but I am not

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quite ready for that yet. So
fear intrepidation may not actually be the opposite

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of purpose. Sometimes they can be
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it's out there in the trajectory,
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executives and leaders who have these big
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the world, but some part of
them is very, very tentative to move

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forward in that because it touches into
some part of them that's not quite fully

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expressed. So we have to work
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be here and execute on that project
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reading your book that was so useful
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now I believe this is a self
this is a self assessment. Obviously,

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I would would need your way in
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But I firmly believe that I,
at age forty nine in twenty fourteen,

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really was in the end of the
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level, as I really was being
totally I was leaning into all of this

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stuff around the meeting, work,
research, and I started the radio show,

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I went to India to go present
for a conference, and it was

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all just flowing right, And I
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today I'm at the beginning of the
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can absolutely feel that pulling for something
else. Holly. I don't know where

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it did, where it's going.
I just know I have the good sense

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to listen to it and be obedient
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go. But I can feel that
volcano sort of you know, going and

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like I'm reaching for something and I
don't know where it is, but and

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it's so incredibly enlivening and compelling.
So listeners and viewers, if you don't

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know what I'm talking about, that's
your queue to get the book. Yeah,

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I you know, at least I'm
I and I actually can feel.

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I can feel your presence exactly where
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reading about you on the paper doesn't
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but as you're describing it. So
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you know, in the diagnostic arena
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people are. So that's one of
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figure out where they are. And
in that process then we also get to

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say, well, what are the
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here? And so if I were
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look to see if there are any
specific gaps or where's the shadow and or

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you know, what's out in the
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some additional skills or capacity. So
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people really are stabilizing within whatever tier
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shadow, doing some developmental work to
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to go towards the leading edge.
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we do. Isn't it just and
not a bad way to spend the day?

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Yeah? Looky, I feel incredibly
I feel so grateful to do this.

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I'm so grateful that I chose to
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I was being pulled. I'm so
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ever, and there's so much more
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forever process. Right. How lucky
is that? All right? So,

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another thing that I wanted to talk
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talk about three steps to lead us
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loved how you talk through each one
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is gaining clarity about our purpose.
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do with all my clients, regardless
of you know, everybody has some sense

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of their purpose, and there's always
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the nuanced discernment that I have about
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my clients to have, because when
we have that deeply nuanced, one of

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a kind, nobody else in the
whole cosmos has your purpose, then we

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can actually point you toward that in
such minute ways that those expressions that we

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talked about, the somatic and energetic, et cetera, become more viable as

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indicators of alignment or not. When
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harder to use those experiences in life. And I find that people who you

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know, I know my purpose.
I hear that all the time. Oh,

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I know my purpose, And clearly
there are many people doing wonderful work

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in the world. I do not
intend to diminish that importance of doing good

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work. But knowing purpose allows you
to have this keen discernment about this direction

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or that direction, or this moment
or you know next month or you know

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this partner, this colleague, and
all of those things can be really confusing,

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you know, when you add them
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like, oh my god, life's
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in that deeply clear way, life
gets easier. It's like you get out

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of bed and you know exactly what's
on task today. Completely get that in

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fact, it was interesting. I
was on a coaching call with someone this

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week and was talking about your art, your work, our work, and

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she's made amazing progress and she's on
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no, it's really yummy. It's
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her, that's what occurred. So
all right. The second thing that you

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talk about there is and this is
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work too. That I'm sure it's
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the shadow stuff, but you talk
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limiting beliefs, childhood, wounding,
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my own life, you know,

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so we you and I do similar
work, and obviously we each are living

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our own unique, nuanced version of
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my experience and my childhood and all
the trauma that I had in life,

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this was a part of my way
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you know, we all have things
that can be cleaned up or cleared,

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and most of the people I work
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that's you know, shadow is just
that which we can't see about ourselves.

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And so in my work, I
help people see what it is that's keeping

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them from being their next best version
of themselves. And often there is what

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I call sub psychic parts that are
not integrated and that need to be invited

412
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back, in, negotiated with,
resolved in order to become a part of

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the bigger hole. So we become
more whole humans or purposeful humans when all

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of those parts are reintegrated. And
I do energetic work also, which releases

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energy from this lifetime and many other
lifetimes, which kind of is a whole

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nother story as well as you were
speaking of. It was just reminded that

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one of the most amazing, noble
and humbling things about my experience and my

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work is that I literally get to
witness watching people's molecules transform before my very

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eyes, right as they come to
a new understanding of themselves, they learn,

420
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they come to recognize really who they
are, to come home to themselves.

421
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It's like the most amazing thing to
witness that. Yeah, really,

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as I agree, your third point
is taking small bole steps onto our aligned

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path. Curious to hear how you
talk about that. So as an entrepreneur

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in a manifestor kind early in my
life I began building things. I just

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sort of couldn't help it. I
could not do it, you know.

426
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I didn't go get an MBA or
have that kind of background. But because

427
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of who I am in the world
and my ability to see abstract conceptions and

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then just go build them, I
began building businesses and organizations and projects,

429
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and really it became a part of
who I was. So I tend to

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work primarily with people who are building
things, entrepreneurs or founders or executives who've

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got new projects. And oftentimes,
you know, the very first step once

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you get clear and remove all the
limitations that what wants to come out is

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something creative. Whether it's a you
know, revision of a current product or

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a new role, there's something new
that wants to be birthed. And usually

435
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we're quite trepidacious about stepping into that
new version of us because we've not been

436
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there before. It's so new.
And so I help people work on possibility

437
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:08.400
mindset, in gaining strategies and feedback
loops and all these things, you know,

438
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agile mindsets, all these things that
would be considered sort of entrepreneurial business

439
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:19.400
development kinds of tasks, but I
incorporate them on my work because you know,

440
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what's the point of being on purpose
if you're actually not offering the world,

441
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you know, the most evolved version
of you. So I completely build

442
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that, completely agree put it out
to work in the world. We need

443
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it. I love what we each
get to do, and I appreciate your

444
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unique special way of doing it.
So on the air, let's grab our

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last break. You welcome on Doctor
Release Cortez, your host. We've been

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near the doctor Hollywood. She's the
founder of the Emergence Institute and the author

447
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of the Golden cred or Defined Purpose
in the Stages of your Life. Stay

448
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with us, We'll be right back. Doctor Release Cortes is a management consultant

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specializing in meaning and purpose and inspirational
speaker and author. She helps companies vision

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for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop
purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that

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elevate fulfillment, performance, and commitment
within the workforce. To learn more or

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to invite Elise to speak to your
organization, please visit her at Elisecortes dot

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com. Let's talk about how to
get your employees working on purpose. This

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is Working on Purpose with doctor Elise
Cortes. To reach our program today or

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open a conversation with Alise, send
an email to Aleise ali S at Elisecortes

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dot com. Now back to working
on Purpose. Thanks for staying with us,

457
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and welcome back to working on Purpose. Another announcement for you if you

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haven't heard me say this before,
but we've launched Gusto now, which is

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a transform transformation e learning platform featuring
leadersh and professional development courses. We do

460
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them in English, Spanish and Portugues, which are my favorite languages. You're

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just joining us for the show.
My guest is doctor Hollywoods. She is

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the founder of the Virgins Institute and
the author of The Golden Thread or to

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Find Purpose in the Stages of Your
Life. I'm your host, doctor Lee

464
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Cortez. Okay, so now we're
really going to get a little bit deeper,

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Doctor Wood, I hope we haven't
been like, we haven't been deep

466
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so far, but we're really going
deep now. So one of the things

467
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that I appreciated you talking about,
and I wanted you to generate this for

468
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our listeners and viewers, is you
say that stage specific interventions and approaches can

469
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support us to develop depth and breadth
in each stage so that our experience is

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grounded in the relevant developmental tasks and
we organically unfold into our next expressions of

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purpose. So talk a little bit
about these interventions and approaches, right,

472
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And this was some of the work
I did with Harry O. Fallon and

473
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her team is learning to not only
diagnose where people are in their specific stage,

474
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but what is needed to either stabilize
in that stage or move to the

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next one. And I do want
to stay here a caveat that. While

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one might think that further evolution,
you know, a more advanced stage is

477
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always preferable, I would I would, I would caution us because you know,

478
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we always think more is better,
but in fact, it's it's more

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better to be stable in whatever stage
you're in. And so many people in

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Western culture have taken the notion that
if I just advanced my spirituality and wake

481
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.159
up and you know, gain this
vast awareness, that I'm going to be

482
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my best version of me. And
I would say, hold on, unless

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you've actually integrated all your parts and
done the shadow work and gotten all the

484
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developmental tasks done, then you're actually
not going to service very well way out

485
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:53.400
here in some you know, psychic
bubble because you can go to a non

486
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dual place, and that has happened
in our culture, Western culture that has

487
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:07.119
so preferred you know, evolution advancement
over stability. And so what I do

488
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in these stages see where people are, what are the developmental tasks. I

489
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:16.119
look at capacities both you know,
as a master coach in integral coaching and

490
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.800
in this work that I've done with
Terry, I'm able to define do we

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00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.800
need to stabilize, do we need
to integrate shadow, or do we need

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to work on leading edge? And
there are specific interventions depending on the stage

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and the person themselves. I'm able
to develop customized interventions so they're not they're

494
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.719
not cookie cutter, they're very very
customed to the person. I want to

495
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.920
acknowledge what you said in the beginning
there at Holly about the importance of not

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just and you say this in your
book beautifully that where it's not just that

497
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a race for enlightenment and that's not
necessarily the end game. And it's important

498
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.639
that I really appreciate how you're talking
about being able to cohere the whole person,

499
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to integrate the whole person, and
not to get quote ahead of our

500
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not to get over ambitious on the
journey that we haven't quite done the work

501
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.920
yet to prepare ourselves for exactly,
because if we don't have the foundation of

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those early stages, which so many
of us don't, I mean I didn't

503
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.480
when I sort of arrived at the
meadoware tear, and I still had a

504
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:21.559
lot of shadow to integrate. So
I've have a you know, personal firsthand

505
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.679
experience of what that feels like and
how how challenging life can be if you

506
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.960
have to go back and do that
deep work. But if we actually had

507
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people in every tier who were healthy
and stable, we would not be in

508
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.639
this circumstance right now that we're in
culturally, because we would be able to

509
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see and respect the contributions of each
tier and each stage and say, wow,

510
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I am so glad to have those
people in the concrete tier who can

511
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provide a foundation, a stable foundation
for our culture, and we so need

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them, you know, much like
we recognize through the pandemic the foundational importance

513
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of essential workers. Like literally,
if we didn't have them, where would

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we be, right, It's the
same for people in the concrete tier.

515
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We need to recognize the importance and
the beauty and the significance of people who

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haven't been on this vast, you
know, lightning speed journey. But we

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00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.519
just don't do that. So I'm
smiling because I want you to know that.

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I when I got through reading your
book, I grabbed my seventeen year

519
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.119
old daughter, who is about to
go off to college next year. She

520
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:36.039
wants to study biology and minor in
psychology, and I said, you got

521
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:37.880
to look at this. You got
to look at this. These three these

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three tiers of awareness and relation to
how she maps them to to purpose,

523
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.239
and she would they were both.
And then she bought a friend or two.

524
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:46.840
So the three of us are circled
around this thing, and they were

525
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so excited, going, oh wow, we could grow into something like this.

526
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.519
So they got that they were.
They were in the concrete you know,

527
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.639
their adolescence, and they got where
they were and they self selected.

528
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.519
But it was so exciting to see
them look and go, wow, that's

529
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so exciting, so inspiring. So
already the next generation, you know,

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is as you say in your book, that you know it is maybe better

531
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positioned to to get this stuff So
let's talk about that now as it is,

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because one of the things that I
found quite intriguing is as you say,

533
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as younger generations are now able to
take advantage of sixty expansive years of

534
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.159
human and spiritual development and make use
of traditional and alternative modalities for healing,

535
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the youngest boomers, Gen X,
millennials and Gen Z cohorts have begun to

536
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rapidly and earlier move into the subtle
tier and live from the subtle tier collective

537
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three. Anyways, what I want
to say for our listeners and viewers that's

538
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:45.400
very technical, but that you're saying, you're suggesting that these younger generations have

539
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maybe a deeper foundation from which to
draw and grow from. Excuse me,

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00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.920
and you know that's true for every
generation. We if we've done our job,

541
00:40:55.559 --> 00:41:00.719
we as a cohort of generational cohort
will have passed on the things we

542
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learned. And I can't say that, you know, we boom. I'm

543
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.079
a boomer, so we didn't do
a great job of that. But I

544
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:15.199
think in the access to the personal
spiritual development work that is so accessible now

545
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:16.679
that you know, we didn't even
know what it was when I was an

546
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.760
adolescent like doctor Spock. That's what
my mother read. And so you know,

547
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.119
my children, I can most speak
to my adult children. They had

548
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.320
access, you know, they had
a very weird mother, but they had

549
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:37.199
access to many understandings and modalities that
prior generations didn't have. And so I'm

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00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:44.920
witnessing that these younger cohorts they you
know, it's in the zeitgeist. You

551
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.440
know all the celebrities now, do
you know all of these many things.

552
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:54.360
It's just everywhere, there's there's no
end to the amount of acceptability now for

553
00:41:54.559 --> 00:42:01.079
personal spiritual development work. And in
this the subtle here is our you know,

554
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:06.320
it's our modus operandi. We live
in the subtle world so deeply,

555
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I mean through our devices, at
our intellectual property, and just all the

556
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:17.320
ways that we express ourselves in the
subtle tier than non material they have become

557
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:22.960
so indept at living there, and
they've also have a greater access to the

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collective, which is in each of
the three tiers. Just briefly, it

559
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starts out two individual stages and two
collective stages. So that happens in the

560
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concrete, the subtle of the metaware. And so because of this global environment

561
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that we now live in and especially
in the pandemic, we began to experience

562
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people all over the world like,
oh my god, they're just like us.

563
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There's hardly any distinction. There's more
commonality than there is difference. And

564
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in that process, especially during the
pandemic, I witnessed we shifted from an

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00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:07.599
earth early subtle stage center of gravity
culturally to a later subtle stage center of

566
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:13.599
gravity. Because of the lockdown,
we accessed our phones and our iPads and

567
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.039
our you know, our our many
devices, and we connected with people all

568
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:23.719
over the world, and we began
to see the commonalities in us as humans

569
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.679
and understand that we are actually really
just one big collective, aren't we.

570
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There aren't distinction. Those of us
who have done enough work and integrated those

571
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:40.039
repressed parts anyway can see that.
But that answered No, I was just

572
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stunning. It's just so exciting.
And I look at that and I think

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00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:49.159
what I hear is just inspiration,
possibility and definitely coming together. I've been

574
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.840
saying since the beginning that we've this
has really taught us that we really are

575
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.199
in this together and looking for how
it is that we are connected and how

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00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.519
we're similar and how we can support
each other it's such a great opportunity.

577
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:04.400
So I really gravitated to that part
of your book talking about these younger generations.

578
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.039
We're so close to being out of
time, Holly. So I have

579
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.239
two more questions for you, if
you could just treat maybe just briefly hear

580
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this next one. But you talk
about how purpose and our own development are

581
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.159
a process of not only evolution but
also involution. And you say that our

582
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so full purpose inwardly unfold and then
outwardly expresses itself over and over throughout our

583
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:30.519
lifetimes. That's so it's such a
great way to articulate something really spectacular,

584
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.679
you know. And I didn't know
there was a word involution. It came

585
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.239
to me one day. It was
like a download and I'm like, what

586
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.559
is an evolution? And I had
to go look it up. And so

587
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:46.920
it's what we do innately when in
this evolutionary drive to become more of ourselves,

588
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:52.440
we have an experience, we take
it in, we grapple with it,

589
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:58.599
we you know, in the internal
miliu, we become something as in

590
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.960
response to that experien and then we
put out a new expression. And so

591
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:07.960
really simply it's just this feedback loop
from out to end to out to end,

592
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.400
out to end, and each time
we haven't experience, We're doing this

593
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.159
all day long, every day,
right, so each time we have the

594
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.960
experience it, we just sort of
wrestle with it inside and it becomes a

595
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.280
refinement of who we are. And
so I guess you could call involution that

596
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:30.880
internal refinement process that our soul and
our mind and our spirit are just really

597
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.679
wrestling with, like, well,
how does this fit with my internal milieu?

598
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.960
And then it becomes a new expression
of ourselves. What I get when

599
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.920
you talk about that, Hollies,
it feels like your golden thread is just

600
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:45.760
looking round and round and round.
Yeah, it's it's either a virtuous or

601
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:53.280
a vicious cycle depinion trajectory. You're
a yes, yes, yes, Well

602
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.960
here we are. We've we've already
gotten to the end of this and uh,

603
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.880
it's amazing how fast it went.
And I am so grateful that you

604
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.960
come into my life. Thanks to
Ellie Tahar and New Zealand, thank you

605
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.400
Ellie for delivering Holly to me.
You know, this program, Holly's listened

606
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.719
to listeners across the globe, and
people that are listening to this are really

607
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.639
trying to create help understand their own
and prove their own experience of meaning and

608
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.039
purpose in their lives and to become
a more inspirational leader and have a greater

609
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.119
impact on those that they lead.
So what would you likely listeners with today.

610
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Well, I would love to lead
the listeners with the notion that you're

611
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always living purpose and that you can
have a greater expression of purpose if you

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become intent on becoming more of yourself. And I have a several free resources

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on my website Emergence Institute dot net. There's a purpose to Impact roadmap that

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lays out the twelve steps that I
use with my clients to go from purpose

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clarity to full expression having impact in
the world. And there's also a free

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audio course. I'd say read the
book if it all intrigues you. You

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don't have to read the densest middle
parts, but they are illuminating. And

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I have a new community that I'm
inviting people into who are literally on purpose

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and wanting a fertile ground to find
other like minded like sould people. And

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it's called Purpose Creators and you can
also find that on my website. And

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I just inspiration to be more of
you because there is no other like you

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on the planet or anywhere in the
cosmos, and if you are on purpose

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and living your best life, then
you are having an impact. And I

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just implore us all to be that. I'm completely aligned, Holly. I

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My stance is that we need everyone
to be living and working from purpose to

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be able to create the world that
we all want to live in and make

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a difference sets worthy of your one
precious life. Yeah, thank beautiful,

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Thank you for having for coming on
being part of this, for delivering your

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message and sharing with our listeners and
viewers. I know it's going to make

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a big difference to people. So
I'm so happy to have you. Thank

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you, Hollie. Thank you listeners
and viewers. If you want to learn

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more about doctor Hollywoods, her book
The Golden Thread, or her Purpose Creator's

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collective community, visit her website.
As she mentioned, its Emergenceinstitute dot com.

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So let me spell that for you
A M E R G E n

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CE Institute dot net. Last week, you've missed the live show, you

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can always catch it via recorded podcast. We were on there with Karen Weeks.

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She's a senior vice president at Order
Groove. We were talking about how

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this dynamic technology company has been caring
for its people and changing its human capital

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practices to promote well being during pandemic. Next week, we'll be on the

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air with Deval Sungavi. He's the
co founder and partner at Dasra in India.

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Just a couple of years into his
first job at Morgan Stanley in New

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York, he realized he wanted to
be back in India to focus on the

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lives of many millions that live without
dignity and equity. So the Texas born

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investment banker packed up, came to
Mumbai and co found at Dezra. We'll

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be hearing about the work he and
his team are doing to create collaborative platforms

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and support more than one thousand non
office across India and change lives promises to

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be a fantastic conversation. See you
there. Remember that work is at the

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least a port of our life,
So let's work on Purpose. We hope

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you've enjoyed this week's program. Be
sure to tune in too Working on Purpose

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featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes
each week on the Voice America Empowerment Channel.

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Together, we'll create a world where
business operates conscientiously leadership inspires impassioned performance,

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and employees are fulfilled in work that
provides the meaning and purpose. They

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crave see you there. Let's work
on purpose.