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What's working on Purpose? Anyway? Each week we ponder the
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answer to this question. People ache for meaning and purpose
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at work, to contribute their talents passionately and know their
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lives really matter. They crave being part of an organization
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that inspires them and helps them grow into realizing their
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highest potential. Business can be such a force for good
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in the world, elevating humanity. In our program, we provide
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guidance and inspiration to help usher in this world we
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all want working on Purpose. Now here's your host, doctor
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Elise Cortez.
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Welcome back to the Working and Purpose Program, which is
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a has been brought to you with passion and price
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since February of twenty fifteen. Thanks for tuning in this week.
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Great to have you. I'm your host, Doctor Release Cortes.
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If we have not met before and you don't know me,
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I'm a workforce advisor, organizational psychologist, management consultant, logo therapist,
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to registrants as well. Now getting in today's program, we
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have with us David Cohen, who is an author, business coach,
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and facilitator at Your Big Venture. He specializes in helping
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business owners mind their strengths, get clear on their value
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their markets, and then begin to develop a sales and
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marketing game plan that gets result. He's the co author
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of Live Life Swift, which we'll be talking about today.
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He joins us today from Toronto, Canada. David A hearty
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welcome to working on purpose And as.
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We would say in Canada, will hearty welcome me.
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I forgot the apart. I'll work on that.
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Well.
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First, let's let's give a shout out to how it
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is we know each other, our common dear friend and
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mentored doctor Lance Secreton, out of out of Canada. He
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is why I know you, why we came together, and
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I know that you have credited him in the front
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of your book as well. So we'll start with a
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Lance we love you. Start.
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Yeah, let's throw some good energy his way. He's still
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at it. He's really an amazing man. He's eighty four.
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I think he's going to be eighty five this year,
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spilling that and he's still very vibrant and vital and
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loves what he does. And how can you not be
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inspired by him and his work in leadership?
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I agreed, And it's actually a nice way of our
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conversation today about living life swift. Yes, he is to
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be eighty five years old, and ladies and gentlemen, Lance
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travels one hundred days of a year. He skis one
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days of the year. He kayaks one hundred days of
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the year. And he has many, many, many clients still
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all over the place. And I think he has I
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don't know how many books out twenty three. So here's
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to living life in crescendo. Your best work is always
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ahead of you, as Stephen Covey and Cynthia Covey, his daughter,
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have written in their book. So let's start with that,
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David exactly.
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I love that.
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Okay, yeah, go ahead.
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Oh. I just love Stephen Covey too. His work is
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you know still and I told him in the book
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as well. You remember, yes, the idea, you know, the
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having habits of highly affective people. It's just, you know,
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when he wrote that, I wonder if he knew that
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the shelf life that that book would have. I mean,
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it's still very practical and needed in today's crazy world.
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I know, it's really wonderful to get to celebrate that. Well,
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let's talk about you, my friend. One of the things
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that I find very interesting about you is that you
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are focused on empowering young entrepreneurs and employees between the
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ages of nineteen and thirty five to have the courage,
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to confidence and the soft skills to succeed and to lead. So,
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of course, you know, I have to ask. I'm a
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meeting and work, and I did any researcher, among other things,
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why that generation, that age segment, and why that focus.
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That's a really good question, because I've switched it. This
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is something new. It's a new focus and a new direction.
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Not entirely new in terms of it's still learning and
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coaching and leadership skills training. However, the way it's being
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delivered is very different and new, and so it was
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born out of two things. A passion for teaching you
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and in my current sort of work, iteration of my work,
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I do training and coaching work with nonprofit entrepreneur training
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programs in the g GA in the Greater Toronto area,
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and a lot of that is with youth entrepreneurs. I
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have a real passion for you and that they have
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that direction, they have the confidence, they have the skills
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in order to succeed, and I see that that that's lacking,
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like there is in my research. There's a real gap
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as far as that concerned. And the other thing too,
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this is a bit more of a personal why. You know,
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if you're to kind of look at Simon Sinox, you
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know what's your why. I lost my dad at ten
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and I had I was raised by wolves, I mean,
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three older sisters.
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That was your out loud voice, out loud voice, David,
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I heard it.
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Yeah, yeah, don't have them. But you know, I didn't
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have that father sort of hitter to guide me, you know,
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and make it in this world. You know, women are
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different than men. My mom was a state of hole
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mom when my dad asked, So it's a bit of
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that too, you know, it's important during my wound. And
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then I loved as I said, I love teaching them
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that group nineteen to thirty five year olds a matter
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of fact, and teaching them I've group tomorrow morning on
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Zoom about business planning and yeah, and it's a sort
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of this is sort of maybe the last part of
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my journey as far as my teaching and coaching and
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consulting career growth. And I want to make an impact
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in a positive difference.
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Here here we need more of that in the world. Well,
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one of the things that you and I have in
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common is this idea of helping people to champion too
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their best lives where that is. And I do that,
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of course, usually inside organizations, although I do, like you
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have now the ability to focus and help individuals as
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well with my online academy. But I am interested from
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your vantage point. Why do you think people generally, there's
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several reasons I'm sure don't tend to pursue their fullest life,
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their biggest goals. What holds them back?
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Man? In a way, I've lived a little bit of it.
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I think fear is fear of change, fear of the unknown.
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And what I've been experiencing a little bit is I
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find leadership, especially in government and business, lacking a little bit,
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and so it leads one to just lose faith and
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hope that things can improve. So there's a bit of
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you know, I'm away, a little bit of yeah, it
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doesn't matter, you know, that kind of vibe going on,
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and I feel like, now's not the time to be
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like that, Now's the time to step up and make
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a difference.
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Yeah. Well, So for me, what I've noticed, mostly through
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being out speaking in public speaking, the conferences, et cetera,
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is often I will ask the audience at some point
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fairly early into my talk, what are you passionate about?
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And in that one instant, David, the room stops for
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just a collective moment, and I realize as I look
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out of the faces of the people in my crowd,
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that they don't have an answer to the question, and
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in me asking that question, they just realize that for themselves.
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So what I have come to is that people have
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gotten disconnected from one their own emotions, their own ability
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to feel, and therefore, you know, be enlivened by something
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that might really turn them on or just light them
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up from within, so they can't feel it anymore. You're
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on the hamster wheel, which has actually been a little
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bit decreased since COVID. We've decided that we don't want
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to live on a frenetic pace, but people are still
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moving so fast and furious. And then what I've discovered
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is that they haven't been able to find a moment
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to connect with what they're really passionate about, or what
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they used to be passionate about. Either has gotten so
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far in the in the in the the kind sight
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or the rear view mirror that they can't feel it anymore.
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And that's part of why I love doing what I'm
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doing is to help inspire people again to dream, to
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want more for themselves, and to resurrect those dreams that
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they left lying maybe somewhere bared in the backyard. So
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that's what I've kind of gotten so far.
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Yeah, and that's kind of a scary place to be
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because you know, that's the lack of hope, right, you know,
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the dream I'm going to quote a movie musical, You've
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got to have a dream if you don't have a dream,
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And how you're going to make your dreams come right.
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That's from the Pacific story about the singing. But you know,
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it's it's about having a dream, and you know, it's
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it's about having hope. And I think in this day
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and age of you know, crazy government and you know,
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just all the negative news and we hear throughout the
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day and this one's arguing we just had an election
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here in Canada federal w yesmer barking at that one,
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and that one's barking at that one. And it's like, well,
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they're both like crazy. So it's like, I think we've
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lost hope in a way, and and that's not that's
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not good. And i'd like to, you know, I guess
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my mission is to let's get some hope back, you know,
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And it starts with that. If we're counting on our
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leaders and politicians where we're looking in the right place
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the wrong place, we got to look within and we
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have to start, you know, in community and build out.
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Well to that end. I really like, I'm going to
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read a quote from your book that I really appreciate that.
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I just think that makes so much and you so
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much sense. You say, the true essence of living the
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swift method, which we're going to talk about here later,
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ladies and gentlemen, and acting on it in your life
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is about you living a full life, a life where
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you are consciously creating, acting and planning or making a
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life that has a balance, meaningful moments and goodness in
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it every day. So for me, one of the key
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words there is consciousness being very very intentional about what
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it is that you allow yourself to think, which we
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can do anytime, doesn't matter who's in the White House,
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who's governing your country, or what's going on in the world.
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We have complete control over what happens between our two
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ears exactly, and that I would like to call out
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it and encourage people to step into that space and
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focus there.
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Yeah, And I'm glad you did at least, because that's
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that's the biggest battle is in it is the thoughts
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between your two years, the beliefs, the patterns, how the
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traumas maybe show up and affect your current life. And
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and I think you know where we need to take
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those things into account as well when we're seeing in
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your work, you know where you're you're you're teaching groups
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and speaking to groups and and and you're not seeing
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people passionate about something, and I think we need to
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heal within. And also it's a battle every day, uh
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in the mind, you know who's who's It's like that
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the story about the two wolves, the angry wolf the
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good wolf. Who do I Who do I feed? No? Yes? Yeah,
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so you know feed the good one?
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