Sept. 24, 2024

Unlocking Your Potential: The Path to Wisdom and Creating Your Best Life

Unlocking Your Potential: The Path to Wisdom and Creating Your Best Life

Inside each of us is a natural drive to reach our full potential, but what does that really mean? We explore how realizing your potential not only elevates your life but also impacts those around you, contributing to the greater good. True wisdom—the...

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Inside each of us is a natural drive to reach our full potential, but what does that really mean? We explore how realizing your potential not only elevates your life but also impacts those around you, contributing to the greater good. True wisdom—the pinnacle of human achievement—is often overlooked despite its profound importance. Join us as we uncover how to cultivate wisdom in a world overflowing with information but lacking guidance, and learn why it's the key to living your best life.

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What's Working on Purpose? Anyway? Each week we ponder the

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answer to this question. People ache for meaning and purpose

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at work, to contribute their talents passionately and know their

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lives really matter. They crave being part of an organization

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that inspires them and helps them grow into realizing their

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highest potential. Business can be such a force for good

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in the world, elevating humanity. In our program, we provide

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guidance and inspiration to help usher in this world we

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all want Working on Purpose. Now, here's your host, doctor

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Elise Cortes.

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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose Program. Thanks for

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turning again this week. Great to have you. The show

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has been brought to you with passionate pride since February

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of twenty fifteen. I'm your host, doctor Elise core Test.

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If we've not met before and you don't know me,

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I'm an organizational psychologist and lagal therapist, a speaker and author.

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My team and I at gustoe Now help companies to

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enliven and fortify their operations by building a high performance,

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invigorated culture and leadership activated by meaning and purpose. Our

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mission is to help our clients create a destination workplace

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where people flocked to join, are inturntly motivated to perform

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with their best, can grow to their full potential, and

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are committed to stay and dynamic de deliver on the

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company's mission, which translates into higher profits for you. You'll learn

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more about us and how we can work together at

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gustodashnow dot com or my personal site elisquare test dot com.

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Getting into today's program we had with us today Ben Lydel.

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He's a serial entrepreneur and health care innovator known for

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his for being ahead of the curve. He launched several

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successful companies in including two on the New York Stock Exchange.

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The best known is Anthem one of the three leading

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US health plans, with the market capitalization placing it on

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the top thirty of the Fortune five hundred. He also

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founded Accordia, Inc. Which became the world's seventh largest insurance broker.

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He is the author of the series The Potentialist, Your

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Future in the New Reality of the next thirty years,

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The Pursuit of Wisdom, and there's a third installment coming

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as well.

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The series is.

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Intended as a guidebook for success during the fast changing,

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turbulent and opportunity rich times ahead. We're talking about it

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today on Working on Purpose. He joined us from Phoenix. Ben,

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Welcome to Working on Purpose.

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Thank you appreciate being here, Doctor Bartousen.

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So welcome.

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Please call me Elise, and am I saying your last

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name right?

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Is it Litele?

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Yes?

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That's great, perfect, wonderful. I failed to double check that

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with you. So let's first celebrate this amazing thing you

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brought into this world. This is the book of the

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series that I have just read. As I told you

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before we got on AIRBN, it's just stunning. It's really really,

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really beautiful work. And if you would just repeat what

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you said to me about the effort that went involved

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with this book in comparison to a couple of the

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companies that you built.

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Yeah, yeah, well, it is true. It was the most

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challenging project I had ever taken on in my life.

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To write the series, but this specific book was incredibly

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difficult because essentially, I'm trying to write self actualization, how

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you discover your true self and live it and become

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wise in the process, and that was and to do

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it in language that people can understand and grasp and

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in practices they could truly follow. And so to try

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to do that, given that Carl Jung spent twenty two

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volumes doing it, but of course he covered much more,

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was incredibly challenging. But it was all so wonderfully rewarding,

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and I'm proud of the work, and I hope, and

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it means a lot to me that you enjoyed it,

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and I hope that everyone who reads it finds it

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valuable in their life. That would be just fabulous for me.

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It's incredibly incredibly needy, and there's so much there to

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take in and fold into your person and work with.

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So I really really appreciate what you've done with that,

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and thank you for bringing it to the world and

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coming on to the podcast to.

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Talk about it. Great, Thank you so welcome.

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So let's first talk about that you have actually you

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discovered the power potential early in your life and you

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chose to lean into it.

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Can you just kind of give us a brief version

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of that story.

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Yeah, I was. I was taking a summer elective class

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in college, and I was I was grown up young.

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I mean young people got married young and then and

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started life young. When I was when I was a

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young man and so I had two children, I was

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going working nights, going to school days, and I had

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to go year round to get out in four years.

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Since I was looking for a summer class and I

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saw this glass that said the Introduction to Personality, And

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so I go to this class at summertime. It's hot.

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We're sitting inside of an unair conditioned in those days

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building in Texas. And the young professor, who was probably

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only in the thirties, long hair, cool guy, and he said,

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why don't we go outside and set under a shade tree.

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And everybody thought, we like this guy already, so we did.

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And almost the first words out of his mouth, paraphrased

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a little to save time here, was you do not

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have to be anything that someone else expects you to be.

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Inside you is you and you need to discover who

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that is and then live it and if you do that,

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you will be a success in life. And even though

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I had oneonderful parents who encouraged me and said you

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can do anything you want to do, your.

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A little bit further into the microphone, who's there?

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That was like a yeah, that's just like a lightning bolt.

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For me, it was, and I'm sure it was not

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for everyone else in class, but for me that was

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a moment and I realized, this is something for me.

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And then I've learned over the next few weeks that

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there was this whole body of material on how to

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develop your potential and to discover your potential and what

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it meant. And so that became a lifelong advocate avocation

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for me, and it and it's it is. It has

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been my north star throughout my entire life. I've studied it,

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observed it. When I would meet people that I thought

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were wise or insightful, I would basically interview and get

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the o them, learn how they became that way, and

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collected I kept all my notes, collected all that material

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and all of that's wrapped into this book.

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It's stunning.

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And for that, let's just take a second here and

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just invite our listeners and viewers to come with us

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on this purpose journey.

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As you and I were talking about.

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Before we came on air, is that we do need

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to be able to hear, be still enough to be

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able to hear that little.

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Insistent quiet whispering. It's trying to get your attention.

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Telling you where you need to go, what is it

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that you're here for, what is it that you're called for,

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so that you can actually devote your life to that.

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There's nothing more fulfilling than that and where we can

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make the greatest impact. So I just want to situate

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that because when I'm ou speaking to audiences, I would

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say that no more than three percent of people's hands

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go up saying that they know what their purpose is.

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And it's okay if you don't, because that's part of

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a journey. But we just want to encourage you to

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come along with because it's so fulfilling. And look what

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you have done by leaning into your potential, by being

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obedient if you will to that so just amazing.

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So let's talk about potential. You have a rather, I.

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Think studying a unique, beautiful way of talking about it,

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but just starting with the idea that your potential is

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the best you. So for you say a bit more,

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what is potential for us?

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Yeah, it's you're after what you know young and Freud

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called the self with the little ass or the id.

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I use the term I in me, which is not original,

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but it's but I like it because to me it

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spoke to me. The I in me, and your potential

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is when you develop that I in me, which I

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describe how to do in the book, and you do

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it by using it. Uh. And when that I and

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me gets strong enough, your ego is no longer in control.

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H and all of us have an ego, and unfortunately

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for me, any many many people, they think the ego

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is them. It is not. It is a function that

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exists in every human being, just like an arm and

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a leg and everything else. It's a function. It's a

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psychological function, but it is not us. And so when

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you develop that I and me to where it is

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you all day, every night, every time, you'll be happy

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and you will have reached your potential. And that's really crucial.

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You start by learning absolutely to do it when you're

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making important decisions, because your ego will never make the

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right decision. It won't always be wrong, it just will

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never be the best. And so you learn it first

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in decision making and then ultimately it becomes you all

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the time. The ego is still there because there's good

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things about the ego, but it's but it is not

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in control. It's in the backseat and you're in the

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driver's seat.

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Okay, two things to that if I can.

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Then, First, I've always sort of had the notion that

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we can always be reaching and working twitter potential, but

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we can never really fully reach it because we just did.

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The ceiling keeps going further up. Do you align with

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that or see a difference?

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Yeah, But in a sense, I do think you reach

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a point where you live through your your your eye

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and me you live through your true self and it's

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there all the time. But you're correct that the it's

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an organic Uh, it's an organic existence, it's an organic function,

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and so it's always changing and it's always growing. But

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the difference is you don't have to work so hard

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at it. Once you're in there, you just naturally take

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that step to learn. You naturally take that step to

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do the right thing. You don't struggle with it like

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you do so many times in life. And that doesn't

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mean you don't still have hard decisions. You do, but

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they're a lot easier because you know how to you

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know how to answer them, and you know your you

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trust that you're that you'll answer them properly.

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The foundation is more more established. Okay, Then the second

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thing I wanted to cover. I thought this was quite

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fascinating and interesting. And so you're talking about just you know,

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the just the pure power of potential, and you see,

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and yet human potential has always been underestimated. Humanity, especially

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in leaders, have yet to grasp this timeless truth. Would

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you say a bit more about that? And then I

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think I've got something to add to that as well.

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Yeah, it's it's it's I mean, it's a it's a

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historical fact. You go back once upon a time, people

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weren't trusted to own land. The church and the clergy,

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and the and the and the royalty owned all the land.

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And literally, conversations of that time, they're not hard to

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go find, were well, you can't trust people to take

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care of land. They work it, but they could never

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be responsible and take care of it today, right, people

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desire for public education. So we've always we thought people

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can't govern themselves. You know, if we were all today

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sitting in the late eighteen hundreds and seventeen hundreds, there

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would have been discussions all over the place. How can

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you possibly live without a king to tell you what

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to do? Today? We think that's silly. So why can't

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we all be wise? Why can't we all achieve our potential?

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to help help them see right, so that they're not

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leading them from where they are today, they're leading to

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where they can become a resire to.

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possibility of the leader's role in activating people's potential.

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Well, and when I have talked about that event at

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age twenty, it became the lens at which I look

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chief operating officer of about thirty six, and a CI

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potential in themselves. They couldn't see, but I hook it.

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what it can be, but otherwise you're judging whatever you

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looking at life through its potential is I think the

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Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to working

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I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes, as I too, am

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them find and attribute their greatness. And we do business

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in March of twenty twenty three. It's called The Great Revitalization.

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How activating meaning and purpose can radically in liven your business.

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And I wrote it to help the business leaders understand

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today's workforce needs and wants, especially after pandemic. It's changed,

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and now I offer twenty two best practices to help

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you create a culture to provide that for them. You

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Amazon if you are just now joining us.

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He is the author of the series The Potentialist, Your

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Future in the New Reality of the next thirty years,

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The Pursuit of Wisdom. So let's get into wisdom here.

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So before we talk a little bit about just kind

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of diving into it, I have a whole section here

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that I want to grill you on and extract as

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much as I can in a nutshell, How would you

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describe wisdom?

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What is it?

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So? Wisdom is? And this is a classical philosophical definition

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you can find if you go out and google it.

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It happens to be my favorite because I think it's

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the most the greatest truth. Wisdom is the art of

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living well. Is that elegantly it really is. Wisdom is

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the art of living well. Who wouldn't want to live well?

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What does living well mean? Living well means becoming wise

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and making good decisions younger in life and continuing that

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throughout your life. And you go, okay, that sounds pretty good.

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But then how do you know your decisions are wise well?

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Because they serve you and others equally in balance and

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they are well grounded in reality. So so so then

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then you move to the next level of classical definition

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of wisdom, and it has two parts. In classical terminology,

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they call it theoretical and applied. I call it. I

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call it the capacity for wisdom, meaning that in the

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moment we have we have done our work to understand

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life as it is and and to and to appreciate

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life as it is. And then the other half is

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then in the moment of decision, you applied free of ego,

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bias instinct negative instincts are emotions that have grabbed you

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because you will not make a wise decision. I don't

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care how wise you are if you do that, and

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wise people make mistakes and aren't always wise because sometimes

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they don't do that second step. So then if you say, well,

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what is the capacity for wisdom, it's really three things.

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It's perspective. That means getting up above, not living the

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ant life, getting up above it, seeing the forest instead

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of the trees, bird's eye view, whatever metaphor you wish,

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but everybody gets what that is. It means looking back

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into history. So if every time you'll hear me go

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back into history and bring it to today and then

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bring it forward, that's perspective. The second thing is seeing

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life as it is and accepting it as it is.

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you accept life as it is. And to do that

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that means understanding things we'll talk a little bit about

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like natural law. It means understanding my life and how

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I live. It matters answering these existential or unavoidable questions

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we all because they ground us and we have to

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always remember that our ego and you're a psychologist, so

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you certainly understand your ego creates distortion of reality. And

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that's a lot of what therapists do, right. They help

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people get understand you're not seeing life the way it is,

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so we have to be we learn to be free

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of those distortions, to be aware of them, know when

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it's happening, and avoid it. And then finally it's what

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I call discernment. That means sharpening our ability to really

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understand something. I like like honing a knife, sedge and discernment.

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of wonder. Isn't that beautiful? That is scope of wonder

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and depth of inquiry. Now if you as you and

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I just pay attention to what's going on in the world,

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how we're looking at a.

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Situation, come a little closer again, Ben, there we go.

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this is fascinating, and it'll help you then dive down

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into the subject and really understand it. So three thanks perspective,

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seeing life as it is, seeing reality as it is,

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That right there, this is just that bit there, Ben,

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was worth the price of admission already, So thank you

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for that.

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That was just gorgeous.

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And by the way, I've had people on the show

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talking about wonder and awe. If there's like Monica Parker

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wrote a whole two hundred and eighty five page books

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about wonder, it's just beautiful, so so much there, all right, Well,

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I did want to talk a little bit about natural laws.

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That whole chapter on natural laws was incredibly educational for me.

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I think I might have missed a few of those

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a little bit along my way and in education.

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There's just a couple that I wanted to talk about.

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But before we get into those, would you situate for

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us why understanding natural laws serves us?

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Right again, we'll go back life. Part of being wise,

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the capacity for wisdom so that you can be wise

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in the moment of decision is seeing reality of it

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is and understanding law and natural law. A lot of

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life is explained through natural law, a lot of life.

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And the fascinating thing to me about natural law is

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it existed before. In many cases, natural law now has

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proof in physics and math. That's what scientists do. They

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discover the natural laws of the universe and of life,

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and a lot of those thousands of years before we

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even had scientists, people were already saying things that expressed

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their knowledge of natural law. So some examples, a stitch

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in time saves nne. What goes around comes around, what

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goes up must come down. All of those are expressions

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of laws in physics. There's no new idea, that's what those.

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All of those are natural expressions, humanistic expressions of natural law.

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They are telling us this is the way life operates.

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And I just find it fascinating. We were talking about

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being revealed truth being revealed to you and how it

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can guide you. Long before people were what we think

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of as civilized today, they were using these expressions to

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explain how life works essentral to do that.

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Yes, yes, and I think you list a good ten

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in the book, right, so that okay, there's.

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At least twenty five, and they're always adding to them.

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One of the more recent ones that now has tons

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of science behind it's the law of diversity, which every

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time if you just want to carry a mental image

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of a bell curve around, Not that the bell curve

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is totally all expressions of diversity, but it explains so

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many things in life, so many things people explains, personality

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explains so many things. And that's what these laws are

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so valuable for.

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So the two that I wanted to talk about. Is

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first the law of connectedness or otherwise known as intimacy.

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Could you kind of shed the light on how that

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law works?

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Yeah, one of my favorite quotes. Matter of fact, my

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one of my granddaughters just texted me earlier today and said, Papa,

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what are your two favorite quotes?

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And I went, oh, God, only two.

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I can only give two it I have so many,

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And one of them, you know, from Ben Frank, what's

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the first one in the book that says, uh, we

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grow one of life's great life's great tragedy is we

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grow old too quick?

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And why it is too slow? Right slowly. But the

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one that's relevant to this is from Dogan Zenz from

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like the seventh century or something, and it is intimacy

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is I'm sorry, enlightenment is simply intimacy with all things.

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Remember that in your book.

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It's so beautiful as again the expression of connectivity, and

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it basically says, at a level, we are connected to

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everything and everybody in the universe, and the more we

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can feel that, the wiser we become.

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It's one of my of my top ten gars is

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number six.

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Intimacy is number six. Being intimately connected.

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With people that I work with people that hear about

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the everyday life that breathe all of that.

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It's so beautiful.

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Well, and you read my books, so you know, I

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try to reduce these things down to stuff we can remember.

468
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Here's the pure definition of intimacy to me, and you

469
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:50.839
can really feel it with friends, family, the simple joy

470
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of being together, no motive, no utility, nothing, You just

471
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love being together. And at the opposite end, because all

472
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of these things are on a continuum, uh, the opposite

473
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.400
end is utility. There's a purpose here. Yes, utility is

474
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not always bad, but if it dominates the relationship, it is,

475
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you know. And so that's the trick, is to always

476
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:17.480
have intimacy dominate our relationships. That ezy simple joy being together.

477
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Do I enjoy being with this person?

478
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Yes?

479
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.839
Yes, thank you for that distinction with intimacy. That's so important.

480
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:27.200
The other one that I that I wanted to talk about,

481
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I guess it's maybe the part of it is well,

482
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I guess.

483
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It's not the other lots, it's still part of it.

484
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But but that you go on to say, you know,

485
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intimacy connects us to everyone and everything. And I just

486
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thought that just this little bit of you know you say,

487
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intimacy is a little is little understood transformative force that

488
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:50.759
accelerates development to our potential. That is a fascinating concept.

489
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:52.039
Can you see a little bit more about that?

490
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:58.559
Yeah, so every everyone, And again you know from the book,

491
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I try to write this book to be very inclusive.

492
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So it's not it's not a religious book, it's not

493
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an irreligious book. It's it's simply trying to write. And

494
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so I give people the option of how they want

495
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to choose to believe what things are. But everyone must

496
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accept there was some creative act, whatever that was, something

497
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.839
spawned all of this that we ultimately have out evolved

498
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:25.559
out of. And what I like to think of intimacy

499
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as something most people, I think a lot of people accept.

500
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You know, we're all connected in some ways. I've heard

501
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:39.559
scientists say it's nitrogen. I'm not a good enough chemist

502
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:44.759
to verify that one, but something's there to me that

503
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that force is intimacy, that that is the force that

504
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:54.680
connects everything and every everybody. And a good little test.

505
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.599
If you've got a favorite sweater, or a coffee cup

506
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.279
or a baseball cap, next time you pick it up,

507
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.000
pause for a half a second and feel what you feel,

508
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:15.039
you've have, you have an intimate feeling with that very

509
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:20.119
familiar thing, and that is to me a proof of intimacy.

510
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.000
We can be intimacy with inanimate things. We can be

511
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:29.240
intimacy with animals obviously other people. Uh and and and

512
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.319
again it's that simple joy of being together. I love

513
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:36.599
my healthy cap. Hello, good morning. I love my baseball cap.

514
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.559
You know, whatever it is, though, that's a good way

515
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:44.200
to appreciate the universality of intimacy.

516
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:46.759
So beautiful, you brought it right to us.

517
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.720
Okay, So next where I would love to go because

518
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I I you know, I am.

519
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:52.680
I'm an organ social psychologist.

520
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.599
I staid at existential psychology, positive psychology, things like that,

521
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.400
developmental psychology. But the way that you really distinguish the

522
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:04.119
psychology functions of a person is really quite alluring and useful.

523
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.279
You already talked about the eye and me, but could

524
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.240
you just had to take us through the functions?

525
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:14.400
Yeah, so so, and as you know, I also use

526
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.400
a metaphor of the physical body and the process. So

527
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so so we we appreciate that we have in our

528
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physical body, that we have organs and functions, you know,

529
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:31.720
our arms, our hands, our liver, our heart. Each of

530
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:35.519
these have different functions and they have a purpose, and

531
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:40.079
together they make a functioning whole, which is the human body.

532
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.319
You know, we become a physically whole person, and we

533
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.680
know we have to take care of it. We have

534
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.880
to we have to help it grow and give it nutrients,

535
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.680
take good care of it. It's an amazing thing that

536
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.799
by the time we're in middle school we understand a

537
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.480
lot about that physical body. A lot. The time we're adults,

538
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:05.440
we're doctor Google man. I mean, we'll take care of you, right, So,

539
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.039
but yet we know almost nothing and we're taught almost

540
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.559
nothing about the psychological body. So I try to break

541
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.960
it down into just the four functions of the most important.

542
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.920
You cannot become wise unless you understand that you are

543
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.720
not those functions. You are the I and me, which

544
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.359
is the culmination of those functions. So and they are

545
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.680
on we are also as you know, we are also

546
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.079
people who are both physical live on this earth. And

547
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.680
there's a part of us that is that is connected

548
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:45.920
to something greater. And so the part and those stand

549
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:49.440
in opposites to each other. So we have an ego,

550
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.279
and the ego I describe in a lot of detail,

551
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:58.599
and it has good functions. The good ego is that

552
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:02.839
can do attitude. That's a good ego. The bad ego

553
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:10.319
is the one that is jealous, possessive, envious, really doesn't

554
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.680
care a lot about anybody else except itself, and that

555
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.319
part of us we have to accept. That's also part

556
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.000
of the ego. So we want to bring out the

557
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.160
good ego, not so much of the other. Its opposite

558
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.160
is the soul, and this is not the soul in

559
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.240
the religious context. This is the soul and the context

560
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.880
of it is a function. I don't think anybody can

561
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.359
debate that there is not a function there that speaks

562
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.200
to us in a very different voice than the ego.

563
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.559
And it's the source of inspiration, it's the source of

564
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:44.039
aha moments, and it's a function. And then the other

565
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:48.240
two functions are the shadow, which is on the side

566
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:52.440
of the ego, and those two sides are all about

567
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:56.319
human preservation. So if you were creating a species and

568
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.960
it had to survive on the planet, it had to

569
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.559
have these kind of carecharacteristics to first survive and then

570
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.480
to become all it could be. It needs the soul

571
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.640
and the conscience. And I like to think of the

572
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.240
kind the shadow and the consciences as partially instinctive. They

573
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:20.599
were probably the first level of development as we evolved

574
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.640
as creatures. So before we had an ego, we had

575
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:28.160
a shadow. And the shadow we can really recognize because

576
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.799
it's that thing when you're walking down a dark alley

577
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.880
and the hairs on the back of you next stand.

578
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.680
It's that thing that somebody says something the wrong thing

579
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.119
to you the wrong time and it hits you the

580
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.480
wrong way and you snap at them. It's that snake

581
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:47.000
inside you and that shadows of defensive function, and so

582
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.079
it has a function. Your ego is primarily safety. It's

583
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.799
constantly trying to make you feel safe. The strange thing

584
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.839
about the ego is it'll work you to death trying

585
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.680
to feel safe. Give me more, give me more. So

586
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.480
that's that part of it. T why you have to

587
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:05.680
have it in the back seat, not driving the car.

588
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.639
And then the shadow is more it lets you know

589
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.519
you feel vulnerable. So just like it stares since hairs

590
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.000
up on the back of your neck to warn you

591
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.440
of something you haven't yet consciously aware of, it does

592
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.679
the same thing with senses of vulnerability.

593
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.320
And then did you talk about conscience.

594
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And then your conscience. I know I did not not really.

595
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.159
Your conscience likewise was probably the first stages of the

596
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.880
of the soul for people to be aware of. And

597
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:40.639
it reminded us that there's more there than just us,

598
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.960
and that was a huge step in evolution. Yes, that

599
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.199
suddenly there I need to think about others instead of myself.

600
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And it was probably family. And I tell a story

601
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.960
in the book about a hunter gatherer who is starving,

602
00:34:56.199 --> 00:35:00.239
literally starving, as most hunter gatherers were, and so he

603
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.199
kills a small antelope and he's about to eat it all,

604
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.480
and suddenly something says to him, what about your family?

605
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.599
Why not eat some and take home the rest for them.

606
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:16.039
That's the conscience, and it came out of that instinctive,

607
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.480
but it's not the soul, and the soul is very

608
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.440
much wiser. The skults and each one of these have

609
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.000
a very distinct voice, which in the chapter on the

610
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.760
psychological body, I try to I actually try to quote

611
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where you can almost hear that voice, because that's what

612
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.440
you have to do ultimately to really understand and use

613
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:40.280
your own psychologist, recognize these voice, and use it the

614
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:43.719
way it was intended to be used expertly explained.

615
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.199
Thank you, Ben. That is just out of this world.

616
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Thank you.

617
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Let us take our last break. I'm your host, doctor

618
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Ely's Cortez. We're in the air with Ben Leidel. He's

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a serial entrepreneur, genote speaker, author, healthcare policy expert, futurist,

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and thought leader. We've been getting into the depths of

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some of the really amazing concepts in his book. After Greg,

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we will go ahead and hit consciousness and also talk

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about learning states and few other things.

624
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Kay. Thank you.

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Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to Working

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mentioned in the last break that my last book came

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My guest is Ben Litel. He's the author of the

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series The Potentialist, Your Future in the New Reality of

648
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the next thirty years, The Pursuit of Wisdom. So I

649
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want to go next if we can to consciousness. I

650
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have to tell you that consciousness is also it's my

651
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.239
number four value and I'm very, very fascinated with it.

652
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So let's hear your perspective on what is consciousness.

653
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:08.639
Well, what I like to think of it is as

654
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a as a specific kind of experiential learning, meaning that

655
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it's an experience and we learn from that experience. But

656
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:24.760
it's very different in that it's also instant, So I

657
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:29.239
also call it instant knowing, and you can, well, how

658
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.599
can you instantly know something? But you speak to audiences

659
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.000
a lot, and I do too, and I ask your listeners,

660
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have you ever had an Aha moment? Have you ever

661
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:46.800
had an inspiration an idea? Particularly inspirations almost every well

662
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.840
everyone has a lot of people never recognize they have them,

663
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but the average person has hundreds or thousands. And that's

664
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our opportunity to experience the expand of consciousness. And so

665
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.719
what consciousness is is what we are after we have

666
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one of those. So there's a process there. There's that

667
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moment of inspiration or insight or clarity we never had before, boom,

668
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the Aha moment, And then there's a moment later where

669
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we process it in a half second and we know

670
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suddenly we know for sure it's not Gee, I got

671
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to go read some more. We know for sure. One

672
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:38.119
of the real tricks of becoming and expanding your consciousness

673
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:42.800
is keep track of everyone, write it down, use your phone,

674
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.480
dictate into it what you just learned, because you'll find

675
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over time that even if in that moment you don't

676
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:53.440
know exactly what its purpose was, because you weren't thinking

677
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about it. I mean, that's the great thing about consciousness.

678
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It comes to you, but it's trying to let you

679
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.840
know about something, and it's like a mosaic. It'll come

680
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together at some point.

681
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I have never had anybody talk about conscious in that way.

682
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:07.800
Thank you for that.

683
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:10.199
You know another reason you got to pick up the

684
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book and just read the whole thing as I did. Okay,

685
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So the next thing that I thought was pretty intriguing,

686
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.480
and I just think it's so worth celebrating.

687
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.159
Here is you know you talk about in your book.

688
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:23.000
We've heard the homespun wisdom that quote we can only

689
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:26.360
be what we imagine, and you say, there's truth to that.

690
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Help us understand why?

691
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.920
Yeah. Absolutely. First of all, as you know, there's good

692
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:37.079
science behind this. So there is science behind the fact

693
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that when we imagine something, it is as powerful our

694
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:49.079
body take to our mind. It happened. We didn't imagine it.

695
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That's the processing we do in our conscious mind, but

696
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in our minds it actually happened. We learn like this

697
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all the time. We learn how This is how you

698
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learned a load of dish washer, This is how you

699
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.079
learn to bake a cake, throw a party, play golf,

700
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be a basketball player, hike with the proper equipment and

701
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.760
the right amount of water. You imagine it doing it right,

702
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.199
and then you do it right. If you don't imagine it,

703
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.440
you'll repeat what you did last time, which was the

704
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:25.119
mistakes the way we learned. So, going back all the

705
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.599
way to Saint Ignatius in fourteen hundred and something, he

706
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:33.519
was writing about this, Carl Jung picked it up in

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the early twentieth century and he put a name to

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it called active imagination, and what he said was deliberately

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imagine what you want to be, or in the case

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of when we were talking about learning about our psychological body,

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imagine what your ego is, Imagine how it sounds, even

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when you're not hearing its voice. Imagine your soul and

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you'll then you'll begin to wrap your head or around it.

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So so it's a powerful tool for becoming what we

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want to be in visualizing parts of our psychological body

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that we can't see. You know, we've got the advantage

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of our physical body. We can see some of it,

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although we don't see our heart.

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A little closer again, So that's.

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Very that's very important is to is to imagine these

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things and another term I like is visualize to realize,

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you visualize what you want to be. And this goes

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back to every sports team if you look at how

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you build great teams in business, or how you you

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get people to visualize something different. We imagined Anthem and

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Accordion and every other company I built, we imagined that

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as a team before, long before we build it.

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Powerful, so powerful.

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Yeah, there's I hope we have time for two more

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things that I want to get to.

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One is learning states and the.

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Other ones about reframing fear. We won't have time to

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really go into much depth. But your learning states, the

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eight learning states that you talk about in your book

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are so incredibly compelling. Can you just maybe if you

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want to talk if you want to meame them all

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or talk about a couple, but I just want to go.

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Next a couple in the time the cave writing immediately

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connect to. One is solitude very powerful. I need solitude.

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I need to be alone in the middle of a

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crowd if I want to yes yes. And another is gratitude.

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Gratitude so powerful because when we're in a state of gratitude,

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all of that stuff of the ego cannot survive. There

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it is an opposite of the ego. The ego is

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never satisfied. So when you go into a state of gratitude,

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it helps you transition to a very different place. And

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that's the best thing about these psychological states in that

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chapter is that teach you how you never have to

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be victim to a mood again ever in your life.

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You never have to be stuck in a bad state

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of mind ever by using these psychological states.

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Fantastic and just quickly, ladies and gentlemen.

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The other learning states are awe, neutrality, observation, reflection, contemplation,

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and intimacy. So just to give you an idea of

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just what he covers in the book, and he's got

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a section on each of those.

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Okay, so now let's talk about.

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This notion of reframing fear. Fear is such a fascinating thing,

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and I really appreciate how you say in your book

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fear is humanity's most significant challenge in the next three decades.

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Yeah. Yeah, people are afraid right now, and they're afraid

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of the unknown. And the unknown is going to be

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most of what we live. You won't let the rest

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of your life with because really the known and certainty

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is an illusion of the ego. Anyway, it doesn't really exist.

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There's no such thing as certainty in nature. We have

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to we learn to live with uncertainty. But fear does

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not have to grip us. Fear has its purpose. It's

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like a guardrail that reminds us, don't do that. But

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if it takes control of you, just like the ego,

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it can absolutely ruin your life and so and you

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00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.159
don't have to do it. Usually what you're afraid of

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is not what you're really afraid of. You have to

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go down to the core, something below that. Most of

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the time, when we think we're afraid of this, it's

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something much deeper that we're actually afraid of. You have

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to learn to dissect fear, which I explain in the chapter.

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But I will tell you that just like you can

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reach a point of your potential where your eye and

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me is always in control and you don't ever have

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to worry about your ego taking over again, the same

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thing can happen with you with fear. You can have

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a transformative moment. And I explain it for me, it's

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happened to many other people. Wise, people I talk to,

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they all had a similar experience. Under different circlescumstances where

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suddenly and a wise man said to me, I was

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fretting about not being a good dad because I was

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working so hard and so forth and so on, and

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he said, Ben, you seem like such a strong man.

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Don't you think you can handle whatever life throws you?

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And I went, yeah, I think I can. Suddenly I

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knew I could, and I've never fear has never gripped

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me again. And there are a lot of people you think, well,

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that's an odd one person. It's not. It is not.

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And when you study people who did amazingly brave things,

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endure incredible things like Nazi concentration camps, frank and their fear,

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00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:48.719
they were no longer fearful. And it's possible to be.

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Done so allering.

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I so look forward to seeing you on October ninth

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when you come to Dallas. And we've come to the

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end of our time together. And this program is listened

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by people around the world world who really are here

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to learn to improve their connection to the work, to

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become a better leader, to learn how to do business

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in a way that better is the world, and to

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become a better version themselves.

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What would you like to leave them with.

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Lead that potential. Look at anything, look at life, look

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00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:20.920
at your people that you lead, look at your company,

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00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.440
whatever it is, see it's potential, and drive towards that.

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Imagine how you get it there, and you'll get it there.

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What a beautiful way to finish, Ben, Thank you so

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very much for putting forth the excruciating effort to render

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the series and being on air here with me working

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on purpose. I'm really grateful that our paths acrost and

816
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you are now not getting away from me.

817
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You can run, but you.

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Can't hide for me. That same goes the other way too.

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Okay, thank you, thank you. We're so welcome. Listeners and viewers.

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You are going to want to learn more about this man.

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You can check him out at potentialist Future dot com. Again,

822
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that's potentialist Future dot com. Last week, if you missed

823
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the live show, you can always catch it be a

824
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recorded podcast where we get your podcasts. We were on

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air with Garon Stower, who shares his story of when

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life hit him with the unexpected challenge of the leukemia

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diagnosis in twenty nineteen and he discovered a new depth

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of mental strength. Rather than just surviving, Garran made the

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choice to thrive now. Through his company, Duramo Minds, he

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brings his hard earned insights to corporations, offering innovating training

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on the power of really being able to redefine your

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connection to your mindset and your improve your well being

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and your performance. Next week, we'll be on air with

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Piem Zamani talking about his new book, Crossing the Desert,

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The Power of Embracing Life's difficult Journeys. It will be

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an incredibly inspiring episode as we talk about how he

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immigrated from Iran, then Pakistan and made his way to

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the United States at age sixteen and successfully founded a

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dot com company called Autoweb and then later took it

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to an IPO status along with many other challenges and

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lessons he learned.

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Along the way.

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See you there and remember that work is one of

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the best means and realizing their potential and making the

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impact we crave.

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So let's Work on Purpose.

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We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

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tune into Working on Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,

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each week on W four C. Why Together We'll create

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a world where business operates conscientiously. Leadership inspires and passion.

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Performance and employees are fulfilled in work that provides the

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meaning and purpose. They crave see you there. Let's work

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on purpose.