Unlocking the Power of Work: Embracing the “Work Positive” Mindset

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W FOURCY Radio. What's Working on
Purpose? Anyway? Each week we ponder

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the answer to this question. People
ache for meaning and purpose at work,

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to contribute their talents passionately and know
their lives really matter. They crave being

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part of an organization that inspires them
and helps them grow into realizing their highest

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potential. Business can be such a
force for good in the world, elevating

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humanity. In our program, we
provide guidance and inspiration to help usher in

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this world we all want Working on
Purpose. Now, here's your host,

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doctor Elise Cortez. Welcome back to
the Working and Purpose Program again. Thanks

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for tuning back in. Great to
have you again. This show has been

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brought to you with passion and price
since February of twenty fifteen. Already I

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am your host, doctor Elis Cortes, and if we've not met before,

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I am an organizational psychologist and logotherapist, and I'm a speaker and an author.

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And my team and I at Gusto
now help companies to enliveen, and

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fortify their operations and increase profitability by
articulating their purpose and building inspirational leaders and

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cultures activated by meaning and purpose.
Our mission is to help the companies we

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serve created destination workplace where people flock
to join, are intrinsically motivated to perform

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at their best, can grow into
the fuller potential, and are committed to

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stay and dynamically deliver on the company's
mission, which translates to those higher profits.

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You can learn more about us and
now we can work together at gustodashnow

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dot com or my personal site Eliscortes
dot com. Getting into today's program we

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have with us today Doctor Joey Fawcett, who transform companies from a negative Kevin

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culture to a positive work culture that
increases productivity and profits. He is the

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culture architect of the work Positive Framework
certified executive coach and best selling author of

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Work Positive and a Negative World Team
Edition. His work has appeared on Wall

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Street, Journal, Money at Journal, Money Watch, CNBC, Fox Business

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News, Entrepreneur Media, and countless
other sites. He hosts the Work Positive

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podcast, which I've been on.
I'm happy to say he joins us today

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from Danville, Virginia, Doctor Joey
A Hardy. Welcome to Working on Purpose.

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I am delighted to work on purpose
with you a lease. Thank you

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so much. It's really wonderful to
talk to a like soul, doctor Joey.

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I really appreciate who you're being in
the world, and you know,

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we have a lot of work to
do, and this beautiful book that you

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created as a is a wonderful contribution
to that. Thank you for that.

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And it's just chock full of all
kinds of resources and QR codes to take

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you to assessments and instruction and guide. So really well done, doctor Joy.

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Thank you. That means a lot
coming from you, because you know

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I'm a big fan of yours and
love your book and head you on the

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Work Positive podcast, so it means
a lot. Thank you. Thank you

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well. So I love stories,
as I know you do too, and

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I think we both agree that really
good leaders tend to be good storytellers.

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So we have to start this podcast
your conversation about you sharing this wonderful story

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that you share in your book about
nine year old doctor Joy and the boy

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that really set us off, set
himself off on this journey that he's on

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today. Tell us that story if
you would. Well, that cute little

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nine year old kid had a lot
more hair than I have today, at

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least. Well. I come from
a long line of entrepreneurs, primarily in

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agribusiness. My mother's parents were formative
in my early life. My grandfather and

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grandmother ran a country store, raised
tobacco, milked about eighty dairy cows twice

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a day, raised corn for them, and all like that. So I

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just thought everybody woke up when the
sun did and ate three big meals a

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day because you were working hard,
and then fell into bed after dark and

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got up and did it all over
again the next day. But there was

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a purpose to it all, and
family was very important. So here I

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am a nine year old little boy, and I decide that it's time for

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me to make my way in the
world. So I did what most nine

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year old little boys do. I
borrowed a lawn more I don't even remember

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whose it was. My dad had
had our lawn moan, but I borrowed

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the neighbor's lawnmower and started mowing lawns. I got about halfway through at the

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front yard of somebody's lawn the lease
and started sneezing and coughing and coughing and

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sneezing. And I had asthma,
and I had taken allergy shots since I

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was a two year old, back
when they first invented allergy Shoon's right.

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And so I got to coughing and
sneeze this so much that I could no

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longer finish became sick. After that, they discovered out a viral infection in

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my lungs. My asthma was triggered
by that. Wound up at Duke University's

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Medical Center, as it turns out, one of the foremost pediatric asthma allergists

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in the world. So talk about
being in the right place at the right

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time, right But one particular night, I remember the I was coughing incessantly,

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literally couldn't catch my breath. My
mother slept on the floor beside my

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bed, literally because my complexion was
greenish blue, and it was just a

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pivotal moment, shall we say.
I get emotional even now just thinking about

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it. But it was one of
those make or break times. In other

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words, if Joey makes it through
the night, then we stand to chance.

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That's what the intern is told Mom. So I remember Mom on her

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knees beside my bed, reaching up
underneath the mis tent and looking in the

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eyes as I coughed, and said, Joey, I'm positive you're going to

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make it. I wasn't really sure
I was going to make it until that

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moment. And when someone is significant
as your mother in a nine year old

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boy's life right speaks truth to you
like that, you just latch onto it

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because it was the only hope I
had. So I made it through the

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night. The next morning, doctor
D's came through, removed the medication that

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was in the mis tent with a
few choice words to her interness who had

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called on us during the night,
and I recovered, and I just kept

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getting stronger and stronger, stronger,
and my mom's words ring in my ear,

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Joey, I'm positive you're going to
make it. I didn't try to

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mow lawns when I got back home, but I did come back home and

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discover in my mailbox a big brown
envelope by nine to twelve from the Sales

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Leadership Club. Now this was a
one hundred years ago. It was a

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big deal back then to get an
inscribed Christmas card. That is, your

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name, your family's name was printed
inside the Christmas card. Now that's a

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big deal. If you get one, it's handwritten, because everybody's sending you

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something, right, it's already inscribed. So I said, well, hey,

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I can't my lawns, but I
can do this. So I began

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going door to door in August in
eastern North Carolina one hundred degrees on hundred

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percent of medical showing people pictures of
Christmas cards, well, the actual Christmas

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cards inside my handy dandy catalog.
See I can show them to you.

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Now it's like a nine year old
ban of white, I guess. And

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there was Frosty and Rudolph and all
the other Christmas type characters on these Christmas

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cards. And I was asking people
how many boxes they wanted to buy,

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And so I just kept doing that
everybody that I ran into, and I

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got a telescope. Now I understand. When I was a nine year old

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boy, Neil Armstrong landed on the
Moon July twentyteen, sixty nine. That's

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why I wanted a telescope east because
I wanted to see if I could see

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Neil Armstrong see the landing. Yeah, yeah, that's right. I got

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a cassette recorder, which was new
VOD technology then, and then the Coup

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de Grass was a three speed bike, which was the most speed you could

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buy back then. And so I
learned then that positive mindset makes all the

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differences in the world and allows you
to recover from any adversity, even those

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that threaten death, and you can
move forward to live into your best life

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and to even do a little work
on purpose. Wow, and you got

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that at nine. You know,
some of us have to wait until we're

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you know, thirty nine, forty
nine, fifty nine, sixty nine to

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get that message. You know,
so you got to kind of a leg

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up on it. Doctor Joy.
Well, when you when you're told that

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you might not make it through the
night, at least, it tends to

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rivet your attention on the things.
Yeah, I suppose, so capture those

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lessons, I suppose so well.
I can certainly see, you know.

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And that's one of the things I
love about when I'm working with leaders and

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sid organizations and really helping them understand
their own individual purpose and how it aligns

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with that of the organization. A
lot of people do have these kinds of

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stories, but they haven't really done, though, the work of really helping

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themselves to understand why they're important and
how they inform their sense of self,

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their identity and who they are and
perhaps even their purpose. So I think

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it's beautiful that fast forward just a
couple of years that you have now threaded

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that into everything that you do,
and you know everything you know this whole

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notion of work positive, and you
and I both know, I mean that

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whole that's just not so for so
many people. So being obsessed with work

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positive, especially in a world that's
constantly complaining about work, got to be

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an interesting place to be for you, m it is. It is a

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very interesting place and one that defies
truth, I think, because the reality

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is if you're healthy enough physically,
mentally, emotionally, you spiritually to work,

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that in itself is like a gimme. That's a huge opportunity for you

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each and every day. So it
is a bit of a mystery that people

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would spend seventy percent of their waking
hours doing something they're miserable at. Man,

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life is way too short to endure
that kind of misery every day,

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and yet you and I both see
it day after day after day. Yeah.

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I'm going to say two things to
that. So one, I want

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to quote from your book, They
Work Positive and a Negative World book.

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You write in that book that sixty
seven to seventy five percent of the American

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workers surveyed rate themselves as either dissatisfied
or very dissatisfied at work. It's a

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huge number. It's an enormous number. Yeah, why do you suppose they

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are willing to do that? Why
are they are they showing up every day?

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And the short answer is they box
themselves in a financial corner and therefore

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have to work. Ioio, So
off to work I go. We saw,

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of course, we'll talk more about
this in a minute, but we

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saw during the Great Resignation that people
literally discovered I can leave this job.

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We're not talking career calling here at
least, we're talking job, and it's

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disposable. So I can leave this
and go to another company and hope that

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the culture in that company is better, or that I'll magically fall into a

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place where I fit wonderfully. It
just doesn't happen by chance. It takes

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a high level of self awareness and
emotional intelligence, the right questions. But

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it is doable, right and you
and I both have seen it. We

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know we develop leaders who create that
kind of culture that can attract top talent,

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that can reduce team turnover and actually
grow people and profits. So why

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do we do it? I guess
it's short answers financi But the other answer,

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literally, I think, is because
we're just kicking the can down the

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road. That work is miserable,
and the more you suffer, the more

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you brag about how many hours you
work in a week, the more you

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talk about how many freaquent flyer miles
you have, how much you're away from

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your family. It was almost a
badge of honor from my generation as a

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baby boomer. Now, fortunately the
Millennials and then certainly gen z I figured

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out that my generation had the highest
divorce rate of any previous generation, highest

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addiction rates, alcohol pills, whatever
you want to name of any and we

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have more kids in therapy. There's
anything wrong with being in therapy, please,

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But the percentage of our children in
therapy was higher than any previous generation.

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So they saw what a trash heap
we'd made of life by just selling

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our souls to the company store,
and they're insisting we're not going to do

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that. We're not going to do
that. Whereas my generation, if I

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had to put on my calendar for
my boss to see, you know,

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therapist, I'm going to see doctor
Cortez at three o'clock, No, no,

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I would never do that. However, gen Z puts it on there

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and it's like, Okay, I'll
be gone for an hour. I'm going

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to see my therapist. So kudos
to them for understanding how to create a

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healthier lifestyle for themselves and insisting that
they do that. MM I love what

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you have surfaced here at Doctor Joey
that I just kind of want to piggyback

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off. I have so many people
oftentimes really complain vehemently about the generation that

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comes after them, and I have
a different perspective about that. My perspective

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is each generation makes us better as
a human race. So I think your

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rate, your your generation really helped
us embrace the idea of a of a

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work ethic of you know, let's
commit to something, be in it for

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the long haul. And you know, there's there's a trick. You know,

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there's a payof for that. You
know, lots of payoffs. There

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are lots of good payoffs that happened
for that in addition to what you forth.

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I am the very end of the
gen X generation, and we questioned

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some things and we didn't put all
of our faith in that whole basket,

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and we kind of were looking for
ways to be able to optimize our own,

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you know, our personal fulfillment as
well, which I think was a

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nice good trade off for what you
did. And then Gen Y or millennials

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come along and they're like, hang
on a second, you guys, do

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you know you don't really have to
work sixty eighty hours a week. That

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is nonsense, that's craziness. You
don't need to do that. So they

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pushed back on that and we went, huh, we don't. Yeah,

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you're right, And then gen Z
comes along and they're like, listen,

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guys, if this isn't meaningful and
it's not attached to kind of a purpose,

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I'm out. And I really I
don't belong in that culture, yeah,

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right, And so I just feel
like every generation has really helped steward

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our consciousness and really our fullness as
a human being. So I have we

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eat great hope for gen Y and
gen Z And of course that's part of

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what I think both you and I
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that make them want to belong and
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like they can absolutely and actually to
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and becoming are de facto. Right, yes, Well, on that note,

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who transforms companies from a negative Kevin
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increases productivity and profits. Is the
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certified executive coach, podcast host,
and author. We've been talking a bit

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book and then talk about some of
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specializing in meaning and purpose. An
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visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and
develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures

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that elevate fulfillment, performance, and
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Thanks for staying with us, and
welcome back to working on Purpose. I

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am your host, Doctor Elise Cortes. Like Joey, I am also dedicated

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to helping create a word world where
people realize their potential at work and they're

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led by inspirational leaders that help them
find and contribute their greatness. And we

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do business at Betters the World.
So I keep researching and writing my books.

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My last one came out in March
of twenty twenty three. It's called

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The Great Revitalization, How activating meaning
and purpose can radically enliven your business.

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And what it's about is I am
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owners the lay of today's workforce land. What do they want and need from

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you in order to give their best? So I lay that out in the

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first half. The second half gives
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your culture to give them what they
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at my personal website at least Coortes
dot com, or just pick it up

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on Amazon if you are just now
joining me. My guest is doctor Joey

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Fawcett. He is the author of
Work Possible in a Negative World Team edition.

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So before we get into just some
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your book, I really like how
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Just curious. I'm sure you've been
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why do you think so many people
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set aside the idea that they're having
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Why are we clinging to negative thinking? Because it's familiar, Okay,

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and we love familiar thoughts. We
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miserable. It's not that the old
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the old dog has to unlearn the
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just cultivates it. And I'm not
a neuroscientist. I'm not even the son

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of a neuroscientist, nor have I
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but I have studied the brain a
bit, and about the third time of

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fear or something similar to that circles
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no longer distinguish between the falsehood of
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has yet to happen, and a
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maskerades as reality. It becomes your
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nourish it and are convinced that it's
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falling down the rabbit hole with police, but with Alice, right, And

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so you just go deeper and deeper
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that this fear is now your reality. Whereas it takes a little bit more

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work to accept something that's unfamiliar and
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my brain. I've got to find
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it to fit in, or create
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The outcomes the same. I welcome
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when I see you, when I'm
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familiar points of reference. If it
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I'm pushing it back and I'm just
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we become mired down in that negativity, and mired is correct work because it's

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familiar. Then we choose context that
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rest of the show talking about push
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business to monetize negativity, right,
and their mantra is if it bleeds,

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it leads, And so every newscast
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could happen that day, and if
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it's somewhere in another community. So
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right into your community as if it
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If nothing nobody got murdered in your
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We're going to bring that right to
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indigestion. And we willingly turn this
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and don't tell me it's just background
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and negativity, so that by the
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walking downstairs to your remote office or
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brain is so marinated in that negativity, productivity, engagement, all the things

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that you and I help companies establish. It's like a fortress mentality. You've

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got to break through negativity first,
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start your workday. That was a
fantastic answer, and I didn't even expect

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most of that. Thank you,
doctor Joey. I was worth the price

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of a mission right there. Okay, now we got to listen to podcast,

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right right, Well, I learned
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and it's my own, so we
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back one word that you used in
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set this up. I have a
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doctor Lance Secreton. He's written I
don't know, twenty six twenty eight books

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or whatever. One of the latest
Reawakening the Human Spirit, which I'm reading.

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So going through his program, I'm
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learn so I can be of higher
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got on with you, I was
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in which he also talks about the
importance the criticality of unlearning. So let's

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talk about it. What does unlearning
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wrapped up in that experience when actually
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choose to interpret an experience in any
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in nineteen fifty two wrote this little
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and in it. He says,
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So the choice is ours. Your
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can develop muscle memory with your brain. So do I choose to focus on

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the adversity, the storm, the
circumstances that's around me that make me feel

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like I'm out of control, that
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victim, or do I choose to
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in a work environment, competitive advantage
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that positive mindset and are digging for
the opportunities then becomes your competitive advantage economically

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as well as attracting talent, reducing
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ways, let me typify very quickly, growth versus fixed mindset, right,

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Carol, it's it's that kind of
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experiences or am I going to entrench
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Because you see what you look for, right And since I see what

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I look for, then it's a
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if I can, as I put
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filter, then I can find the
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seeds of opportunity within the adversity.
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Jerry, thank you. I can
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about that just in my own world, I have we I guess most of

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us have a default response. If
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is what we do in fault part
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that I have approached on learning for
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I possibly can, I have to
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and then looking for a different way
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or maybe it's I think it might
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so decoupling from that automatic response I
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definitely decoupling from it. Now that's
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deep level. For most of us, it's at a subconscious dare I say

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spiritual level for us even that it
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So there is something without getting too
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putting yourself up for grabs, being
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else, listening to yourself and just
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ways we do that in companies is
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use a narrative as opposed to a
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Monkey. No monkeys were damaged in
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right. But I work with the
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seven people whose opinions you value.
I work with a client to determine those

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five to seven questions that we're going
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in automatically from people that you value
and they sure. I give some categories,

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classifications, you know, we want
some of the reports to use somebody

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you report to those kinds of things, but we've got buy in. There's

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an openness to listening to that.
Are you vulnerable yes, Is it authentic

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yes? Is it personal? Of
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personally, because we want to be
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uncouple from certain patterns of behaviors that
we become aware of as the mirrors held

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up and then we grow through that. Now it takes a very very supportive

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work environment and an investment in the
leadership development of people in order for that

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to happen. I love this,
doctor Joey. You can go access to

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as far as you want that.
I'm down with that. So we tend

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to venture on this on this podcast
like that. So that works for me

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well, purposes wrapped up in self
identity and who we see ourselves as and

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definitely the existential piece big time.
So where I want to go next,

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because I want to set it up
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here is for listeners and viewers who
haven't actually picked up your book and read

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it, I want to just showcase
that you Your book centers around five core

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practices want is perceive, conceive,
believe, achieve, receive, and so

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I just that's beautiful. I love
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something. So could you just sort
of speak to why those are such core

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practices for you in creating a positive
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I want to just let us talk
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that are really most important and calling
on you. Mm. Thanks. I

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appreciate that those those five core practices
rhymes. So when I'm standing on a

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platform front of twelve hundred people.
My brain doesn't sit down, So I'm

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right. It works, Yes,
well, it does well. More to

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the point, it makes it easy
for people to remember. I discovered these

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five core practices when the Great Recession
was going on. And during the Great

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Recession, my wife looked at me
one day and said, honey, aren't

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you supposed to be traveling? It
wasn't for she was glad to have me,

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but she knew I wrote a cash
cow every time I went outtown.

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So I told her the cashcow I
had been slaughtered. So there was no

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training and development money out there.
So that was my wake up called.

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I had to decouple from oh woe
is me? What am I going to

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do? There's a great recession too? How can I find the seeds of

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opportunity in this adversity? So BE
came doing research into a period of economic

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history, not just in our country
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grandparents talking about, and that was
the Great Depression, back when depression was

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an economic rather than simply a medical
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Sorry, I mean to laugh at
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said, somebody must have started a
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around the Great Depression? Who are
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what were they doing? And how
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So I began my research and I
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five core practices came from. So
I like to say that the work positive

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culture starts and stops in your head, and it goes back to that positive

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mindset we were talking about a moment
ago. It goes back to fixed versus

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growth mindsets. You literally see what
you look for, and this is the

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perceived core practice. And what does
the word perceive intentionally? Because your reality

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is what you perceive it to be, then you manifest that reality that you

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perceive. So since you see what
you look for, you want to focus

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on the positive and filter out the
negative. This is not some Jedi ninja

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mind trick or something, because bad
things do happen to good people, right

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There is something negative that goes on. Economic conditions like the Great Recession happen

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and we choose how to respond to
those, or we choose to react to

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them. So, since you see
what you look for, you want to

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focus on the positive and filter out
the negative. There are lots of tactics

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and techniques we teach, like the
Gratitude Diary, like the morning routine,

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starts your morning, starts your day, the work positive way. There's just

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all kinds of things that support that. So what we're after here is a

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company culture that wreck recognizes the power
of the mind and empowers teams and employees,

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but particularly leaders to inspire, yes
everyone to look for to hold up.

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Here's something positive someone did this week. Here's something great that happened in

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the company. And it's that inspiration
that generates hope, and that's what people

407
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are looking for, especially we're back
to generation especially gen Z, begging for

408
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.880
hope, and so they're provided that
hope. It helps them focus on the

409
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positive and to filter out the negative. So you can yes, this happened,

410
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and yes this happened, but and
you're constantly holding up those seeds of

411
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opportunity. Now, it's not some
Pollyanna Ambi pamby squishy kind of trick.

412
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It's literally, and you have to
dig harder some days than others. It's

413
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literally focusing on the po and that
sets your mind in a positive way for

414
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the perceived core practice. Now,
what happens is that let's say you start

415
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vibrating on that positive wavelength, right, You're training your brain to focus on

416
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.400
the positive, filter out the negative. Not everyone around you is going to

417
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.960
be doing that. Amazing, isn't
it. And you're suddenly going to see

418
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these people in a different light.
And this is where the conceived core practice

419
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comes in the relationships, whether it's
within teams or with clients or customers,

420
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:40.000
vendors and suppliers, between leader or
boss and employees, frontline people, all

421
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.440
of these things really matter a lot, and conceive is all about focusing on

422
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:51.240
the positive people. You're not necessarily
putting yourself in an echo chamber as such.

423
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.160
There's a huge amount of realism in
this. It's just again you're choosing

424
00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:00.440
your reality. Jim Rohn, my
favorite business philosopher, was fund saying that

425
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you're the average of the five persons
with whom you spend the most time.

426
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.920
Completely agree. The Framingham Heart study, you know, proved time after time

427
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:13.799
after time that if you hang out
with people with certain habits, you adopt

428
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:19.680
those habits as your own. Eating
was one of the first ones that they

429
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.319
saw. Because that affects cholesterol,
which affects heart disease. We become like

430
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the persons with whom we associate the
most, I call negative people. So

431
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:37.119
the key here is to deal with
negative people without becoming one yourself, because

432
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.359
inevitably there's going to be a discrowned
customer, client, somebody on the team

433
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.279
who doesn't quite get it. And
so I've created a euphemism of e or

434
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:52.559
vampires for these negative people er because
I simply love the Winning the Pooh series,

435
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.640
and because I really see it as
a team meeting when Pooh and Piglet

436
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.240
and my favorite Ti doublego or get
together, right and they're planning the perfect

437
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:06.079
play day for Christopher Robin and then
along comes are and what does he say?

438
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.159
It'll never work? Right? So
every one of us have been on

439
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.239
a team that has someone who says
that'll never work. We tried that back

440
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:22.000
in nineteen sixty three. Didn't work
the right right, Vampires, Because if

441
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.400
we could just leave or at work, that would be cool. But you

442
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.719
can't, because when you go home
and you're with the people that you love

443
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.199
and you're trying to do the things
that you love with the people you love,

444
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.440
guess who's in the back of your
mind sucking time and energy and attention.

445
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.960
Totally, It's that you are vampire, so you are Morson too,

446
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.519
a vampire when the sun gets down. So it's highly, highly critical that

447
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:51.559
you choose your top five to be
persons who are perceiving so that you can

448
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.920
conceive at work. Yep, yes, Oh my gosh, Doctor Joy,

449
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.559
that was so beautiful. I love
you and I we can't plead each other's

450
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.320
sentences, but we won't do that
well, so we'll remain independent. But

451
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.440
let's let our listeners of yours podcast
and we can do it. Absolutely,

452
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:12.519
Yeah, absolutely, I think that'd
be really fun. Let's let them marinating

453
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.760
what you just shared there. I
am your host, Doctor Elis Cortez,

454
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who got on the air with doctor
Joy Faucet, who transforms companies from a

455
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:23.760
negative Kevin culture to a positive work
culture that increases productivity and profits. He

456
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:29.760
is the culture architect of the Work
Positive Framework, Certified executive coach, podcast

457
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.639
host, and author. We've been
talking a bit about mindset negative versus positive

458
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.239
and his core practices. After the
rank, we're going to just devote that

459
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time period to talking about some ways
that we can build a positive culture.

460
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Stay with us, we'll be right
back. Doctor Elise Cortes is a management

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00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:06.840
consultant specializing in meaning and purpose.
An inspirational speaker and author, she helps

462
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:12.679
companies visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders
and develop purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused

463
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.639
cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,
and commitment within the workforce. To learn

464
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.559
more or to invite Elise to speak
to your organization, please visit her at

465
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.559
elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about
how to get your employees working on purpose.

466
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This is Working on Purpose with doctor
Elise Cortes. To reach our program

467
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.440
today or to open a conversation with
Elise, send an email to Elise A.

468
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:52.159
Lise at elisecortes dot com. Now
back to Working on Purpose. Thank

469
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:53.679
you for staying with us, and
welcome back to the Working on Purpose program.

470
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I am your host, doctor Elise
Cortes. I mentioned in the last

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break about my lad's book coming out, The Great Vitalization. What I did

472
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.000
for you is I put a three
page downloadable assessment on my website for you

473
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.320
so you can you can download that
and then look to the extent to which

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your company's culture is currently designed to
be able to meet the needs of today's

475
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.920
workforce. The other thing about that
particular documentary is it will help give you

476
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:22.320
an idea a roadmap to creating the
culture that is required of today's workforce.

477
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.880
So you can find it at gustodeshnow
dot com if you are just now joining

478
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:29.559
us. My guest is doctor Joey
Fassett. He is the author of Work

479
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.960
Positive and a Negative World Team edition. So let's have a little fun here

480
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.519
at doctor Joey here. Not that
we haven't been having fun so far,

481
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.360
but I just wanted to vote this
last bit here too, you know,

482
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:45.360
letting us kind of riff and talk
about some of your more favorite aspects of

483
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.639
creating a positive work culture. Where
would you like to start? Uh?

484
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:55.840
Wow, Let's start with the believe
core practice, which after perceive and conceived,

485
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:02.239
because then believe is like the full
chrome that perceive and conceive and then

486
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:09.119
on the other side achieve and receive. Turn on. Emotional engagement with work

487
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:16.280
is of supreme importance. I think
back into our existential journeys. I think

488
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:23.519
existentially it's of supreme importance for us. So it's this alignment of individual purpose

489
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:30.960
with company purpose, with individual passion
with company mission. And so when that

490
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:37.199
alignment occurs, at least it's it's
just simply magical. It is unbelievable.

491
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:43.800
The company becomes unstoppable. Now,
we measure for engagement so often, right,

492
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:51.440
and so when we pay attention to
my emotional connection with my work right

493
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.679
here in the gut, right,
it's it's it's showtime. I mean,

494
00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:00.440
you are off the races now.
I mean it is like the ights are

495
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.400
on, the NBA announcer has welcomed
you to the finals. It's time to

496
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.800
take a shot. And that's that's
the real jazz for me because when that

497
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:15.679
happens, then families are happier,
right, Communities become happier. I want

498
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.280
to give back into my community,
which is a received core practice. I'm

499
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.400
achieving greater results, which means I'm
more productive than I ever have been before.

500
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:30.519
So that believe core practice is the
real point of the where the fulcrum

501
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.559
is. For me, that's the
jazz because that's when the whole thing gets

502
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.800
energized, and so innovation, creativity, the kinds of things that are true

503
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:44.440
competitive advantages and company cultures happen.
That's when you see your operating income go

504
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:49.280
up by nineteen percent, your revenue
growth year up to twenty eight percent,

505
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.800
and that gets the cfo's attention.
When you start, you start using those

506
00:39:53.880 --> 00:40:00.360
numbers. Right, Yeah, I
love that. That's so great. Yeahtional

507
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.000
connection piece is so so important.
I just it breaks my heart. I

508
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.719
remember one of the stories I like
to tell is I belong to a gym,

509
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.840
which I don't belong to anymore,
but I come in on Monday at

510
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.199
like five five through the morning.
I say hey, Stephen, good morning,

511
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.280
how's it going, And without exception, his response was always is it

512
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:21.719
Friday yet? Wow? And my
thinking is, you know, we have

513
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.360
one precious life and we do not
know when the exit ramp is coming,

514
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:28.719
and we are literally, you know, waiting for just the weekend come so

515
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.719
we can begin our lives. It's
such a waste of a precious life.

516
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.800
So yes, the emotional connection is
so so so important. So I love

517
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:44.079
that. Tell talk to me more
about other practices that you especially are fired

518
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:49.280
up about that you really like to
help companies infuse in their culture. By

519
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:53.920
the way, both of us enjoy
helping create company cultures where people look forward

520
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.159
to Monday as much as Friday,
absolutely right, right right, and the

521
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.840
people they work with. And so
I guess the jazz for me is one

522
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:08.199
that I mentioned just a moment ago, and that is people will surprise themselves

523
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:14.880
by the results they're able to achieve. And I love watching that transformation.

524
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:21.000
It's like a mustard seed kind of
experience. You know, you've got to

525
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.400
do like that, asking is it
Friday yet? Right, just watching him

526
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:31.320
discover something within himself, and the
company is nurturing and supporting that growth.

527
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.519
And I know this sounds squishy,
I know it sounds woo woo, but

528
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:40.199
it is for real because that purpose
and passion individually is getting connected with the

529
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.719
company purpose and passion right purpose and
mission. And when that happens, you

530
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:52.960
literally literally need to stand back because
you're going to launch and the trajectory is

531
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.480
going to be straight up, and
then the company's going to experience Hockey state

532
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:02.639
growth and the world becomes a better
place because yes, are enhanced, communities

533
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:08.039
are enhanced, and we have I
don't want to go too deep into this,

534
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:15.159
but I'll just say this and run. We have allowed the negativity to

535
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:23.280
rule long enough. Yes, And
the great joy de vivra that we can

536
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:29.760
all experience is in what I'm calling, much like your great revitalization, I'm

537
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.639
calling the great redefinition of work.
Yeah, where that purpose and passion can

538
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:45.199
be kindled, fanned into a flame
and amazingly just create light and warmth in

539
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.840
every single community. And it can
happen. We just have to be more

540
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:52.079
intentional about it. That's the world
I want to live in, doctor Joe,

541
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:53.800
and help co create. So you're
right, we are both of us

542
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:58.119
working in similar ores, each of
us rowing the boat here, if you

543
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.400
will. But one of the things
I always like to say to that end

544
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:07.760
in that regard is I really firmly
believe I was raised by farmers who believe

545
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.280
that work was a way of life. It wasn't something you had to do,

546
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:14.159
it was the way that you lived. And so for me, I'm

547
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:19.239
out to really help more people to
experience work as their magical, mystical playground

548
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.639
where they can realize their potential,
where they do things they never believe they

549
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:27.639
that were they thought were possible for
themselves, and they're even dazzled by their

550
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:32.199
own their own accomplishments and their own
contributions brilliant, their own brilliance. And

551
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.599
but that gets catalyzed by the world
of work in a way that many other

552
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:43.079
aspects of our life can't do,
including even just you know, beautiful loved

553
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:47.760
ones and relationships. Work is such
a catalyzing agent. Now it can be

554
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.519
a terribly negative catalyzing agent, but
it can also be so incredibly such a

555
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.320
growth catalyst. And of course that
is what I think. Both you and

556
00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:01.000
I are really gloming onto and wanting
to champion. Oh we are, at

557
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:06.800
least you know, both you and
I love our families. I love hearing

558
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.400
you talk about your daughter. You
tolerate all the stories about my granddaughter,

559
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.679
and I appreciate it. Not that
I tell them all the time. By

560
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:20.559
the way, I have five ninety
two pictures since we last spoke to see

561
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:28.480
them. So little girl, that's
what we call my granddaughter. A little

562
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:34.039
girl turned four a month or so
ago, and just immediately prior to the

563
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.320
run up on our birthday, we
were having a conversation and she loves playing

564
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.880
with Pops, and so we were
playing together, and then I went,

565
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:44.119
oh, I have a meeting to
go to and I need to spend a

566
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.199
few minutes getting ready for it.
Pops has to go to work. Let

567
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:52.199
me kiss you, and so we
hugged and kissed, and in her embrace,

568
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.840
she looks me in the eye and
says, why do you go to

569
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:07.239
work. Now. In that moment, there was this pregnant pause, right

570
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.480
because I knew what I was about
to say was really important, because I

571
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.559
was going to be creating a mental
typology, yes, for regarding work.

572
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:25.519
I looked at her and I said, Pops loves helping people. That's why

573
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:31.920
I work home run doctor Joey.
Well, thanks, I appreciate that,

574
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:38.000
but it was a studied response,
right. So recently she was going to

575
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.320
go to the beach with her mom
and dad, our daughter and son in

576
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.519
law, and we were walking down
to feed one of our horses, and

577
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:49.599
we were walking hand in hand because
she loves holding hands. And I said,

578
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:54.239
little girl, you're going to be
gone four whole days. I'm going

579
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:59.320
to miss you. What am I
going to do? I know? Over

580
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:04.800
walking and she says, well,
Pops, you can play with my toys

581
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:10.400
if you want to. Now understand, for her, playing with play is

582
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.639
her work, right, That's what
she does. She develops mentally, physically,

583
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.840
emotionally by playing. She heard what
I said about helping others through work,

584
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.760
and she was helping me by offering
me her work environment. I could

585
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.719
play with her toys if I wanted
to, So, you know, when

586
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.239
she got back and she jumped up
in my arms. You know what I

587
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:36.800
told her, Thanks for letting me
play with your toys. I had fun.

588
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.119
That's so beautiful. And by the
way, listeners and viewers, one

589
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:44.599
of the things that makes doctor Joey
really outstanding as an author and as a

590
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:52.079
teacher is his whole book is really
he teaches through story. So the whole

591
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.159
entire book is beautiful stories about his
life and his family and his connection and

592
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.440
that's how he illustrates his points.
So it's an incredibly relatable world. So

593
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.440
just have to give a shout out
for that dark joy. It is really

594
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.239
very distinguishing. How you do that? Mm? Thanks? Well, I

595
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:14.199
know that most people don't read past
the third chapter of a book. Yeah,

596
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.039
I know. It's just better not
to hear that after we've worked hard.

597
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.280
Ton't just don't tell you that right
now, I'm working on another one.

598
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.599
Don't don't tell me. Really,
I'm working on another one too.

599
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:27.000
But it's like telling a mother her
newborn is ugly, right, yeah,

600
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.719
stop growing it? Yeah, well, I got to do that. But

601
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:36.760
I'm determined to write a book that
people would read past the third chapter and

602
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.599
stories engage us because I see my
story, you know in your stories,

603
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.679
and you see your story in my
stories. They're memorable that way too.

604
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:50.760
They're sticky, so there really are
porch experience, that's all. Yeah,

605
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.400
we've already amazed. We got to
the end of the show already. Doctor.

606
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.800
It goes by so fast. You
know that the show is listening to

607
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:59.599
by people around the world. And
what they were out to do either individually,

608
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:04.519
is they want to increase their enjoyment
and fulfillment within their work, and

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they want to also be part of
helping create a workplace that they're proud of,

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that they can grow into their heart
potential and give their best. What

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would you like to leave them with
today? Oh? Wow, can I

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give you a gift for listening?
That would do me a world for sure.

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You bet the received for thirty seconds
if you would. Yeah, all

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right, we learned to say thank
you to others, so thank you for

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listening. Today. Go to work
positive dot today and there's a free course

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called something to talk About. It's
a meaning course. Help yourself to it.

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Enjoy it. Talk about something unfamiliar
at work, and that is how

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much you love your work. That
is a beautiful way to finish giving a

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gift, Doctor Joy, Thank you. I really enjoy being connected to you.

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We've now been connected for a bit
and I love your work, reading

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your work, talking with you about
it that each of us have important work

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to do. So thank you for
sharing your wisdom, your heart, your

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grace on working on purpose. Thank
you, thank you. I'm humbled to

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be here. Thank you so much. So welcome listeners inview. Is you

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are going to want to learn more
about this remarkable man, doctor Joey Fawcett,

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the work that he does transforming companies
from a negative Kevin culture to a

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positive work culture that increases productivity and
profits, his books and podcasts, So

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you should go ahead and head on
over to that site you mentioned, it's

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work positive dot Today. Last week, if you missed the live show,

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you can always catch it be a
recorded podcast. We were on the air

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with doctor Raj Sosodia talking about his
latest book, which is number sixteen.

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It's called Awaken, The Path to
Purpose, Inner Peace and Healing. It

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was an incredible honor to have him
back on and have him share so deeply

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and openly and vulnerably about his life
and all he went through to become who

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he is today. It was really
incredible. I dare say you will laugh,

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you will cry, and you will
be inspired by the interview in his

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book. Next week we'll be on
the Earth Darren Tolly talking about his book

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Live Your Possible. Ignite your happy, authentic self and live a fulfilling life

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where to enjoy inclusion, love and
possibilities. Sounds pretty good. Yeah,

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see you there, and remember that
work is the best, one of the

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best adventers and means of realizing our
potential and making the impact we crave.

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So please, let's keep working and
looking for ways to work on purpose.

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We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to tune into Working on

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Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise
Cortes, each week on W four C.

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Why Together, We'll create a world
where business operates conscientiously, leadership inspires

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and passion performance, and employees are
fulfilled in work that provides the meaning and

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purpose they crave. See you there, Let's work on purpose.