Dec. 25, 2024

The 7 Dimensions of Leadership: Activating Your Soul to Tap Purpose and Maximize Impact

The 7 Dimensions of Leadership: Activating Your Soul to Tap Purpose and Maximize Impact

We dive into Richard Barrett’s leadership paradigm that empowers leaders to activate their soul and master seven dimensions corresponding with core values. From meeting needs like safety, belonging, and pride to evolving through self-authority and...

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We dive into Richard Barrett’s leadership paradigm that empowers leaders to activate their soul and master seven dimensions corresponding with core values. From meeting needs like safety, belonging, and pride to evolving through self-authority and fearlessness, and ultimately aligning with purpose through collaboration and contribution—this journey transforms how we lead. Navigating the depth of psychological growth helps you unleash your soul to foster motivation, meaning, and decisions.

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What's Working on Purpose? Anyway? Each week we ponder the

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answer to this question. People ache for meaning and purpose

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at work, to contribute their talents passionately and know their

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lives really matter. They crave being part of an organization

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that inspires them and helps them grow into realizing their

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highest potential. Business can be such a force for good

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in the world, elevating humanity. In our program, we provide

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guidance and inspiration to help usher in this world we

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all want Working on Purpose. Now, here's your host, doctor

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Elise Cortez.

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Welcome back to Working a Purpose program. Thanks for tuning

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in again this week.

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Great to have you.

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This program has been brought to you with passion and

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pride since February of twenty fifteen. I'm your host, doctor

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Elisee Cortes, and if we've not met before and you

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don't know me, I'm an organizational psychologist and LOCO therapist,

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speaker and author. My team and I at Gusto now

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help companies to inlive and fortify their operations by building

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a dynamic, high performance culture and inspirational leadership activated by

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meeting and purpose. You can learn more about us and

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how we can work together at Gusto dashnow dot com

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or my personal site at least Coortes dot com. I

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have a very special surprise for you for this for

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this evening's conversation. Is this going to be your early

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Christmas present?

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We have with us today.

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Richard Barrett a globally recognized thought leader and values based leadership,

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cultural transformation, personal development, and the metrics of personal, cultural,

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and societal well being. He is the President of the

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Academy for the Advancement of Human Values, the founder of

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the Barrett Values Center, leader of the Global Humanity Awareness Initiative,

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the developer of the Barrett's Culture Analytics for organizations and

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global well being. Indicators for Nations, also a fellow of

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the World Business Academy, a former values coordinator at the

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World Bank. He's also a founding member of the the

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twenty Values Task Force for the G twenty. He has

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written numerous books, one of which is What My Soul

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Told Me, which I also read. Richard A hearty welcome

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to Working on Purpose. I'm so delighted to have you

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on well.

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Thank you so much. It is a pleasure to be

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talking to you all the way from London.

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Thank you for joining me. And as I told you,

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when I first reached out to you, I learned about

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you and your work Richard through my mentor Land Secreton,

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who has written also about about twenty two books or so.

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And when I heard what you were doing, especially around

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around your soul, work, consciousness, etc. I was like, I

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really want to talk to this man. So thank you

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for saying yes, good.

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To be with you. What can I say?

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And I love how part of what was so enticing

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about getting to talk with you. I love how you

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talked about showing up for a speech in the Netherlands

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years ago, and you you hadn't really been in touch

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with the organizers, and so you didn't really know what

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they wanted you to talk about. So you just ask

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one I think one person in the audience what what

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do they want to hear about? And then from that

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you just consulted your soul and delivered a fantastic talk.

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So I thought we could do the same here.

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Let's get starting.

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So so the soul, of course I've read now I've

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now read Soul centered Living from Survival Service and of

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course what my soul told me and part of the

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new leadership paradigm. And I have never had anybody so

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beautifully explain how our souls come to us. So let's

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just start there, shall we.

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Well, yes, well, let's just start with a little correction.

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You don't have a soul, no you.

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I am mitule yes, thank you saying that, And that

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is that's.

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A game when you actually realize that, because it means

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that you have a point of reference for everything to

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do in your that you want to do in your life. Well,

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who is the you that wants to do it? Well,

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the soul incarnated into your body, let's put it that way,

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with a few ideas about what it might want to

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do in your life. And as long as you stay

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in touch with that, you will have a lot of

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plain sailing that is insane. It will be totally smooth,

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but you'll be on the right track in terms of

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meaning and purpose and the things that you talk about

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in the introduction to this program. HM.

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Well, and I appreciate that you also said something I

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recognized when when I was reading your book, something about

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you know, if you can get your your if you

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don't align your ego with your soul, then the soul

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willfully express itself.

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Yes. Well, you know, the ego is very helpful in

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many ways, and it develops during the first twenty years

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because of your life, and it's identifies with the body,

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and it lives in a particular culture or experience and

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a family setting, and it has needs, and the needs

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are to survive or feel safe and to feel secure.

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So during those twenty years, that's what you're focusing on,

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That's what the ego is focusing on. And then depending

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on where you live and your parents and all and

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the culture you're brought up in, and you're going to

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learn how to be in that world and get your

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needs met. Now, it may be quite difficult. Not every

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is born to self actualized parents. They may have very

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difficult lives, and they learn what I call maladaptive beliefs.

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They learn that, you know, it's hard to be to survive,

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or it's hard to be loved, or they may have

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a parent advisation you'll never amount to anything, and so

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it's hard, it's hard to be to get everything in place,

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and so the ego develops fears, and it's those fears, which,

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let's put it this way, rock your boat during the

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next few years of your life. And it's the fears

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that prevent the soul from showing up because the energy

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of fear cannot mix with the energy of love. The

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energy of love is the energy of the soul, and

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the fears of the ego get in the way. So

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the first job to do, as soon as you begin

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to realize that you can self actualize and you can

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self realize, is to identify what these fears are that

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are holding you back and try to master them and

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or get over them. Not easy, but mastering your fears

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is the first step in leading yourself. We're talking about

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leadership here as well, and so leading yourself is, well,

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how am I going to lead myself if I can't

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get in touch with my essence, and my essence is

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my soul, and my soul knows why it came, what

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its mode of self expression, is, what it wants to do.

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And so you have to try to get over those

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fears to allow that space or self transformation in order

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to become what eventually would become one with your soul.

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As I said what my soul told me, eventually you

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become one with your soul. But there's a journey in

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the journey starts being with being aware of your soul

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and connecting with your soul, and befriending your soul, trusting

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your soul, and finally becoming one with your soul.

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A couple of things that sporked from that, Richard. One

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is that I believe that you referenced David hawkins work

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in your book, his Map of Consciousness.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, it's I'm very into consciousness. Yeah,

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very much, and I'm writing book right now about becoming conscious.

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Yeah, there's very much a topic of interest for me too,

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and I had come across this work. In fact, I

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now read two of his nine series of books. I am, yeah,

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I am, I'm in the I'm in this Richard. That

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you can see why I reached out to you. I'm like,

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I have this man on and when your next book

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comes out, we'll have to have you come back on

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and talk about that. But so the idea of what

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you mentioned before, fear and love can't coexist. That I

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appreciate that he and on his map of consciousness, fear

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is like on the scale of you know, zero two,

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a thousand, what is it like one hundred and fifty

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or something like that, and love is it like five

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hundred or something. Is that correct?

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Yes?

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Yes, So then the other thing I would love for

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you to do for us, Richard, is if you could

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un generate as you did in the book. You talk

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about if I have this something about you know, our

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our soul thrust itself onto our physical beings. So you

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talk about like the third and the fourth dimensions or

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something like that. Could you explain that?

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Yeah? Okay, So we think we we believe at the

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ego level that we live in a three dimensional material,

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physical world, you know, and because that's our experience one

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that we're born, that's the world we live in. But

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actually the soul lives in an energetic world, and an

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energetic world, in a higher order, higher order world than

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the physical world, and so and the energetic world. You know,

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you cannot die. The soul cannot die, whereas the ego,

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because it's attached to the body, believes it can die. Now,

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where does the ego come from. Well, the ego is

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the creation of the soul, actually, and it the soul

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creates the ego within a few months of your I'm

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going to say, of being born, but actually in the womb.

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And and as.

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You as you move into the world as a baby,

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you begin to find separation.

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Now, the soul lives in a world of total connection

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and love, and you enter into a world of separation

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and fear. Now, depending on how well you're looked after

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by your caregivers and parents, that can be an easy transition,

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but for many people it's not an easy transition from.

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And so the soul creates this psychic entity called the ego,

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to act as a buffer from the pain of separation.

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Nows the ego can also create psychic entities, and we

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call them alter egos. So this is not too far fett.

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We know about alter egos. And so the soul creates

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the ego, and the ego creates alter egos when it

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cannot deal with what's going on. It develops another person,

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another thing. You have to be pretty pretty out, shall

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I say, in difficult circumstances before we start creating all

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the egos. But anyhow, the soul creates the ego, and

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then the ego doesn't know it's the creation of the

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soul and good about his work of protecting the body,

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which is the vehicle of the soul. And so in

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that sense, the soul is happy to have the ego

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look after is like physical life. But let's not forget

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that the soul actually is in the energy fuel, and

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that energy fuel is a higher dimension of consciousness and everything,

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everything in the world is energy so gradually, so that's

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when so the ego begins to develop fears which build it,

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which which because of the separation, and it's very difficult

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for the soul and the ego to blend together in

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their motivations. If the motivations of the ego are fear

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motivisions of the soul a love driven anyhow, that's the

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journey that we're all on. And really that blending depends

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on two things. One where you're born to self actualized

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parents who are who are not too directive but help

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you to grow and develop in your own way, and

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to what extent are you able to overcome the fears

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that the ego develops in getting its survival, safety, and

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security needs. Now, if you can do those that and

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then you begin to self actualize, and from self actualization

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to self realization or self actualization is different from self realization.

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cultural framework of your existence. You self actualize and you

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become the best version of yourself. But within that framework

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of existence, self realization teach you to a whole different

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level where you finally unite with the soul and all

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of the all of the important things, well the things

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that were important when you were self aptizing actualizing. Now

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you're being to look look at and say, no, that's

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not so important to me. Now, I'm not that interested

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in being you know, all of this wealth. I'm not

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that interested in being the best at that. I want

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to find out who I am at the deepest level

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of my being and find empathy and compassion in the world.

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there is so you know, pull marks of the ego

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for doing his job, but not too driven by fears. Okay,

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Richard along this line is I have really come to

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the notion that I believe aligns with yours. But you

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tell me, if I've got this right, I'm come to

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the notion that, you know what, if the whole reason

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we're here is to get present, to are really president

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and connected to who we are as a soul, and

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connected to our purpose, and to live that so that

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we really make a contribution that elevates the consciousness of

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the world. That's kind of what I've come to in

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terms of my own spiritual journey.

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and that's really the most important part. I mean, we

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all want to do things to other people, but you've

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got to start with yourself, you know. That's like I

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want to be a leader, We'll start by needing yourself.

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You know, if you can't need yourself, how are you

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going to need others? So for the soul's there are

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three important things. One is self expression, secondly connection so

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you can make a difference, and then contribution to society.

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you self actualized, begin to move into your self expression,

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connection and contribution. And as long as you can do that,

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your soul will flourish and you'll find joy in your life.

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and you might be happy one day when you get

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a promotion, but the next day you've completely forgotten about it.

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when you get a new car, but the day after

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or two days later, you've forgotten about it. The happiness

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is the shortest lasting emotion there is, whereas joy comes

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from the fulfillment of the soul's desires, is the longest

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emotional experience. So delightful.

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globally recognized thought leader and values based leadership, cultural transformation,

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personal development in the metrics of personal culture and society,

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I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes. As I'm dedicated to

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life in your business, and I wrote it to help

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leaders understand the lay of the land in today's workforce,

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what do they want and need? And then I offer

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on imason if you are just now joining us. My

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guest is Richard Barrett, who has authored numerous books, including

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What My Soul Told Me and The New Leadership Paradigm

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Leading Self, Leading Others, Leading an Organization, leading Society, to

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name just a couple. So I promised I would respond

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back to what you were saying before we get on

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the break here, Richard, that I just thought was so

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interesting about this notion of expressing the soul or is,

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and I believe you talk about this as inspiration. But

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I remember very distinctly, Richard, I had started teaching college

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here at at the University of Phoenix since Sons this

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university in twenty eleven, and I got so electrified to

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be back in the world of academia again, and I

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was teaching various psychology courses, and I just was like

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there was something in me that just said, at least

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you have to go back and do expand on your

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post your doctoral research on meaning and work on identity.

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And it was such a governing call, like I just

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could not resist it, and I gave myself over to it.

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is really what set me on this path and I'm

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on today where I'm squarely in the meeting in the

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purpose camp. And it was totally me being obedient to that,

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to that, to that inspiration, that message.

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So what you're what you're saying to me, is you,

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first of all, you've got to sole impulse. You surrendered

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to that impulse. Yes, changed, yes, yeah, And that happened.

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That happened to me many years ago, twenty thirty years ago.

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I was still at the World Bank, but I was

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already teaching personal transformation, and I was. I was doing

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a workshop in Boulder, Colorado on finding Meaning and purposing Lang,

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which is your Billywick what you do. And so somebody

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said to me at the last afternoon, so what's your purpose?

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I had a well rehearsed answer, which was I'm an

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internationally recognized speaker and author on personal and organizational transformation.

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if you like. Now, when he asked the question, I

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could not think of those words. The words would not

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come to me, and it was very embarrassing, and so

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I just closed my eyes for probably five or six seconds,

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which is a long time when you've got somebody in

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front of me who was asking you a question. An

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out of my mouth came the words and I'm an

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architect of global transformation. Now I'd never said those words,

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I've never had those words. But I realized at that

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point that was my soul speaking to me. Just as

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you had that experience, that was my experience. It was like, okay,

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so we're up and running and this is the direction.

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be an architect? Of global transformation, and I got, well,

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I don't know, but if that's my soul's message, I

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can sit back and enjoy the ride. And that's what

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I just think it's delayful. Of course, I'm wanting more

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and more people to become unleashed, if you will, from

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the tackles, the shut other things that prevent them from

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being able to express that soul. So to that end, Richard,

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let's talk about values. Values are very, very very important

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in your world and work, and speak to us a

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bit about why is you are Why are you so

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anchored in the world of values?

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I left the World Bank as a transportation engineer and

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it became a transformation Engineer's.

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That way, I do you remember that in your Booker?

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I loved that. That's why I focused on. I focused

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on extending Maslow's model and creating a tool for measuring

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values so you could actually measure culture in an organization.

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And over twenty years that just mushroomed and grew.

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companies and it's a tool for measuring culture and deciding

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what type of culture people want in the organization.

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we grow up in a world of beliefs and and

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some conscious beliefs. And conscious beliefs now beliefs may or

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may not be true, but they're not the great way

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of making decisions when the world is changing very rapidly

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around you, and so you need something much more significant

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to anchor your decisions, and to anchor your decisions and

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your values is a much better way to go. And

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anchoring in your beliefs. Your beliefs may be true or

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may not be true. I mean, one time we believed

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the earth was flat, and so if you made decisions

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based on the world well it was flat, you were

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not going to get very far because you say it now.

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So I believe that we should shift from belief based

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decision making to values based decision making. Values lie at

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the very hard of who you are and what's important

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to you and take you closer to yourself, because your

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soul has very important values which are about connecting, being

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a self expression, connection and contributions. So your soul is

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very into a sense of wonders of being connected to

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other souls because at one level, we are all all

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aspects of the universal energy field, and so in that

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sense we already are all connected. So values are What

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I realized was I talked about values in organizations and

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went to organizations all over the world and made speeches

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about values. I understood that I was actually talking about

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the soul, although I didn't broadcast that. Although my second

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book was called Liberating the Corporate Soul, and in that

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book I explained this method and measuring values, but I

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didn't go too deeply into it at that time. I'm

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going back twenty years then, But now I do believe

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that we all have a shared set of values which

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have to do with creativity, self expression, connection, empathy, compassion,

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and they all originate from the depth of our being,

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from the soul.

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You know where It's really interesting for me now, having

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had you generate that around values. Is I am schooled

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in local philosophy or logo therapy doctor Victor Frankel's work.

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This is existential psychology, of course, and so when that

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puts forth, logo philosophy puts forth the idea that our

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main concern as humans is finding meaning. In that we

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have three sources of meaning available to us. That is,

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our creative contributions are the experiences and accounts that we

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have in our attitudinal mindset, and all of those situations

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are registered for meaning according to your value systems. So

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what you find meaningful will be different from what I

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find meaningful because our values are different. And so it's

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very very interesting. And so if you follow that arc

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to your work around values. Right, So I do a

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lot of working oorizations, helping people to understand their values,

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and I'm amazed how little people I meet people and

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their lives are totally changed because they've just discovered their

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values and they're fifty years old.

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Right, It's just amazing. And then I'm so grateful I

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get to do that.

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So if you could come in a bit about this

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notion of how your work around values either speaks to

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or doesn't speak to the world of logo therapy and

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how we situate meaning.

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Yeah, so the quite a few things you said there

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which I want to pick up on. I do believe

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that that is true, that we are leave a meaning

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and purpose, but most of the world is not there

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because they haven't gone their ego needs. You know that

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they have struggled to survive and they is to struggle

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to find love and be accepted, and they struggled to

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be acknowledged. And these are the needs of the ego

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and exactly eighteen ninety the well, that's where they are.

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They haven't got to meaning a purpose yet because they

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haven't they haven't been through that individuating stage. Now, to

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get through the individuating, first of all, you've got to

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meet your egos needs then. So I do believe that

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the task, big task that we have is to help

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people to find live in a society where they can

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get these needs men. Now, one of the few places

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on the planet where this is true is in Scandinavian

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countries where they got onto this idea many years ago

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in the mid eighteen hundreds and taught people personal growth

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and created cultures where everybody benefits. So people in those countries,

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and you're going to the laugh and they say, enjoy

467
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paying taxes because everybody benefits. You know, think about compare

468
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that to America and the UK. You know, nobody enjoys

469
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paying taxes, but in certainema they enjoy it. Be course,

470
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:21.559
it lifts the whole society. That's a different value system.

471
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I call that people awareness. In the USA, you live

472
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in a worldview of wealth awareness and what I call

473
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nation awareness. And actually the world view in the USA

474
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.799
is descending even to a low level in recent years,

475
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and so that is true in some European countries, it's

476
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:45.319
not just the USA. So your value system basically is

477
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built around your world views and the worldview that you

478
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live inside. And now that worldview and those values may

479
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.640
not coinside with the values of the soul, but they

480
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:00.279
are the values that you have to embrace. It's the

481
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.599
beliefs of values you have to embrace every day to

482
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.640
get your needs met and to self actualize in that

483
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:12.119
framework of existence. And so as you grow and develop,

484
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:17.519
your value is changed. They move up Maslow's hierarchy, and

485
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.400
I extended Mazeow's hierarchy to create a several levels of

486
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.839
consciousness model, which is basically what I'm most known for.

487
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.160
And that's the basis of the cultural measurement tools that

488
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I invented, and it's also the basic of the seven

489
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stages of psychological development. So what we do is we

490
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.440
create during those first twenty one yuser a sort of

491
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false self, a self that is designed to get our

492
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needs in the environment in which we live. Now, behind

493
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.359
that false self is this true self it's true self,

494
00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:01.000
which is the soul, the values of the soul. And

495
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:05.160
in addition to your true self, there's a unique self.

496
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:09.039
Now that unique self is that self which has this

497
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:14.400
specific mission and purpose in life. And it's only you

498
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.880
have that particular mission in the way that you can

499
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.279
do it. And when you align your values of your

500
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.079
true self, that's the values of the soul with the

501
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:30.720
unique self, you move into self realization. But the trick

502
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:35.799
is to somehow shift those values and beliefs of the

503
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:39.039
false self into those higher order values. And you can

504
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.440
see what they are when you look at Maslow's work

505
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.000
and my seven levels of consciousness moment.

506
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.960
By the way, when I did my meaning in work

507
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.000
and identity research Richard, I did for the second time

508
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.160
the post Stock I interview one hundred and fifteen men

509
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.400
and when between the ages of eighteen and eighty across

510
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.519
twenty different professions, and when I coded for the meaning levels,

511
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.839
I did it all to along males Low's hierarchy needs,

512
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which was just it just seemed like it was just

513
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a natural sort of thing.

514
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It just it just so.

515
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And of course you will be surprised that the higher

516
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.559
the level of meaning, the more that that along males'

517
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higher that was registered in the work, the more important

518
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.759
the work was for in terms of the person's sense

519
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:22.599
of self for who they were being in the world,

520
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.359
or there was a you know, there was no distinction

521
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.440
between the two, if you will, exactly.

522
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.839
Yeah, So they were living and they were living authentically, yes, yes,

523
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.279
and that's and you see, when you're not living authentically,

524
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.720
you feel uncomfortable. Now this new book I'm reading, I

525
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.839
just just the last two days I came up with

526
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.680
what I considered to be a revolutionary title and I

527
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.400
don't know what I'm going to use it, but it's

528
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called psychological homeostaces.

529
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Mm.

530
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Now we know what homeostas is the body keeping everything

531
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regular in regular order, and you know p H levels

532
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.200
and temperature and everything. But the body knows how to

533
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.119
do that, and when it when it can't do it,

534
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:12.880
you have pain. And when you get pain, then the

535
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:17.839
higher order entity you and your mind, I've got pain.

536
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:22.240
So the body is no longer functioning properly in homeostasis

537
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.839
and you go to the doctor and get it fixed. Okay,

538
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.960
So how about psychological homeostasis because there is a feedback

539
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.920
loop and I just mentioned that, you know, when you're

540
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:37.720
living authentically, you you feel uncomfortable, or when you have

541
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:42.480
an emotional fear based emotional reaction, you feel really bad.

542
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:44.799
You know, you get really upset, and then later on

543
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:49.720
you you're really upset that you've got upsets. And these

544
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.279
are a feedback loops exactly. It's a homeostasis feedback loos

545
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.119
in a psychological environment. And so my whole idea of

546
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.119
this new book is to think, well, how can how

547
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:09.519
can we map the the feedback you get from your

548
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:14.759
mind through your emotions and feelings in order to find

549
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.240
your through development. Just as the body knows how to

550
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.920
live his life, but when it gets out of kilter,

551
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.640
if you like it, finds it difficult to work. So

552
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.519
when you get out of kilter and your psychological development,

553
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:33.759
you can call on your song.

554
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.599
I can't wait to read it. On that note, let's

555
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take our last break here. I'm your host, doctor Really's Cortees,

556
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and we're on there with Richard Barrett. He's a globally

557
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recognized thought leader in value space, leadership, cultural transformation, personal development,

558
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and the metrics of personal culture and society wellbeing.

559
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We've been getting more.

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Deep the naysayer aspect of this work be right back.

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Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing in meaning

562
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and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author, she helps companies

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visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

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to working on Purpose.

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Interesting with us and welcome back to working on Purpose.

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I'm your host, Doctor Lee's Cortes. I mentioned in the

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last break that my latest book came out. It's called

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a Great Revitalization. What I did for you is I

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created a free three page organizational assessment to help you

578
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understand the extent to which your current culture is meeting

579
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the needs of today's discerning workforce. You can find it

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at my website and download it. It's The website is

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gustodashnout dot com if you are just now joining us.

582
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.119
My guest is Richard Barrett, who has authored numerous books,

583
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.400
including What My Soul told Me in The New Leadership Paradigm,

584
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:42.639
Leading Self, Leading others, Leading your organization, leading society, to

585
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:43.519
name just a couple.

586
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So, as I.

587
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Mentioned before, I think it would be remiss of us

588
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maybe if we didn't talk about the people that probably

589
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.199
are like, this is all crazy, this is just we

590
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.880
don't have soul, and you know we're just Adams, etc.

591
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:01.840
I was watching a podcast with a perialist, a scientist

592
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:05.039
who does actually acknowledge spiritually, but he's adamant that we

593
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don't have souls. I'm sure you have been posed this

594
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question numerous times over the years. What do you say

595
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:11.360
to those people?

596
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.360
Well, I know I have a soul because I it's

597
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a personal experience. And okay, so you can't do a

598
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.599
repeated experiment and everybody that says, look yes, and everybody

599
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.760
has a soul. But when you've spent thirty thirty five

600
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:33.760
years working with your soul and understanding your soul and

601
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:39.960
getting these inspirational moments, you can't deny there is something

602
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.840
bigger than you are. Now. There are other areas of

603
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.079
the globe where this is more fully understood. For example,

604
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:53.119
in the Far East, it's well understood that the body

605
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.719
is an energy field and actually would understood by Einstein. Also,

606
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:04.760
it just hasn't down into the academics. You know, if

607
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:09.719
you look around where it was it nineteen forty fifty

608
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:16.159
and sixty and nineteen seventy, the leading the thought leaders

609
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were people like Maslow, Roberto said Giuli from it's only

610
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Carl Young. Every one of them had an idea of

611
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:34.079
the psychology with the soul. I mean, I said, only

612
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.440
had a map of the mind with the soul of

613
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.920
the center. So what I said to these people is, look,

614
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.119
you know, fine, why do you do some research? Why

615
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.719
don't you do some think out of the box and

616
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:52.159
look at what was around fifty sixty seventy years ago.

617
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:56.440
It was very much understood that the psychology had a soul.

618
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Now the soul went out of psychology because it became

619
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academic and it became behavioral HM. And in my book

620
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.639
as a New Psychology of Human well Being, which I

621
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.719
wrote a few years ago, now, my whole purpose with

622
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:16.239
that book was bringing the soul back to psychology because

623
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.119
it's it's been kicked out by the academics. And so

624
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.800
when I hear these people talking, and there's no way

625
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.480
I can convince them, and I'm not even going to try,

626
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:27.840
But I just say, why don't you read a little

627
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.079
more widely because there is so much information out there

628
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.280
instead of putting your blinkers on and not willing being

629
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:38.360
willing to to to think about other ways of being?

630
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:46.519
What's his? Keegan has this socialized mind, that self organizing

631
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:55.679
self socialized mind forgot about? The second one is like,

632
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.440
but the third one is the self transforming mind. Now,

633
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.079
the self transforming mind is willing to look at its

634
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:10.760
beliefs and change them if necessary. So what I say

635
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.360
to these people is, you know, I don't care if

636
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.199
you want to go on believing what you believe, that's

637
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fine with me. You know, you'll have problems, you'll love sickness,

638
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.559
you'll have all sorts of issues to deal with. But

639
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.840
if you really want to lead a life of deep

640
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:32.679
well being and enjoy, then open the book in this

641
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.199
topic and explore it a little more. Because basically these

642
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.440
people have got their minds closed and no point in

643
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.559
telling them that. But encouraging them to read wider is

644
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.360
one way of moving past that. But I'm not going

645
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.559
to waste my time and energy trying to convince somebody

646
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.559
because it's hardly worth it because people are very fixed

647
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.719
in the ideas, particularly academic m.

648
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.239
I of course agree with you. I just had to

649
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treat that a little area.

650
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Now.

651
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.239
One thing that's really interesting to me back the idea

652
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of the east versus the West. The first time I

653
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:11.239
heard this, Richard, I heard it from Paul Skinner, who

654
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:12.920
was a friend of mine who came on my podcast

655
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.440
a few years ago. He's also in your city, London,

656
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and he mentioned I had mentioned that my parents had

657
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.280
passed in January of twenty nineteen, and he said, oh yeah,

658
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.639
my dad dropped the body a few years ago as well,

659
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.239
and had never heard that phrase before. It dropped it

660
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.760
out right, if you could speak a bit to that,

661
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.079
and to me, it makes complete sense. You know, if

662
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.360
we are we are our souls and we have a

663
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vehicle through which we live in this dimension, right, it

664
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.840
makes sense that we just leave it behind when we're

665
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:43.039
ready to be ready to move on.

666
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.719
Yeah. See, see, we understand very little about who we are,

667
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.840
and that's the whole point of self realization is to

668
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.800
realize the big deep into the question who am I?

669
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And eventually you get to the point of recognizing you know,

670
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you're a universe, so being in an individuality perform and

671
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.800
that when you die you simply move from the material

672
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.079
world fully into the energetic world. You're already in the

673
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:19.519
energy energetic world because actually the mind is an energy

674
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field and it embraces the whole body, so you know

675
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.639
the so when when the body dies, you know, the mind,

676
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.960
the energy field leaves. Now where it goes, I don't know.

677
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.280
I'm I have no recollection of past lives or any

678
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:43.440
any transitional experiences, but there is there is so much literature,

679
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:50.159
so much it made so much sense that you you know,

680
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.320
you can see, yeah, that that makes sense to me.

681
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.199
And that's my experience of life, is that it's energetic

682
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.679
and that when it as I align with my soul,

683
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:08.800
I feel a great sense of well being. Now, eventually

684
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:13.840
we all die, and the question is, well, how do

685
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.440
you want to die? Do you want to die peacefully?

686
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.639
And do you want to die with regrets? Do you

687
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:27.960
want to die painfully? Sometimes we do die painfully, But

688
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the question is are you at ease with the idea

689
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of leaving behind the body. As you put it, Are

690
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.960
you at ease with that idea of leaving behind your body?

691
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:45.760
It's a difficult idea to get used to. I you know,

692
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I'm nearly eighty years I am my Next year I'll

693
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be eighty years old. And so my mother lived to

694
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be one hundred. And in many ways she has a

695
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:57.679
small life. What do I mean. I actually never had

696
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.840
a driving license, she never had a passport. She lived

697
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.840
in a local community. She was the cleaner at the

698
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.719
local Methodist chapel. She arranged flowers, she made the chapel

699
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.679
beautiful for people, and that was that was her life.

700
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And she self expression. And she lived in the community

701
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.320
and made the community feel better when they came to

702
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.440
the chapel. And she lived to be one hundred. I

703
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.360
want to do that. I want to make people feel better.

704
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I want them to feel good about who they are,

705
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and so and so I think.

706
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You know that.

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I was just thinking when I was working on my

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book this morning, there were three areas where we build

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our self esteem. You can build self esteem through power,

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and you don't have to look too far in America

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to find that. You can build your self esteem through authority,

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and you can build your self esteem through influence. And

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I think I think people like yourself and myself. You know,

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one of the reasons that when we're younger we feel

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good about ourselves is because we're able to influence things

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later on. You don't care about self esteem. It's like,

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what and I'm not interested in self esteem. I'm like,

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I'm a whole person. I don't have to get feedback

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from the world that I'm a good person. I don't

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need that. I know i'm a good person. I know

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I'm a solo of a human experience. But in the

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earlier years, in the middle years, and these are the

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three of the areas where we derive our self esteem.

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And I was thinking, yeah, I think I would tick

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the box on influence if I had to. But actually,

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I think for me my self esteem, if I really

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have any self esteem, it's like I embrace love basically,

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And when I go and speaking organizations, to the leadership

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team or to the whole company or whatever. As I

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walk onto the stage, I get the organizers to the

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Beatles tune. All I need is love.

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I loved it when you said that in your book. Yes,

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I think that's delightful.

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Yeah. So again, so I will handle this name, this king.

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All you need is a love. I've set them up.

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I've set them up to receive the words that are

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going to come from my soul and that it's true.

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It's like, can you bring love into the workplace in

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your relationships with other people? I know that sometimes people

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have to be sacked and then you know, things happen

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about got backs, et cetera. But can you do that

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with love?

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Well, I am heartened myself, Richard, that I hear that,

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you know, for a letter word being used more frequently

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in the world of business, and and certainly Lance Sycraton

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00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:01.880
is hugely an advocate of that embraces that idea of love.

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Everything it's about love.

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And word a word, you know.

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So I'm encouraged by it, Richard, that that there seems

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it's becoming more normative, if you will, to talk about

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love in the world of business.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. It is because because

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the world is evolving, and particularly in the Northern hemisphere,

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particularly in the democratic countries, where we are allowed morell

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00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:40.000
out to be who we are in the country, Many

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00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.719
and most of the world in autocratic countries, and you

757
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:49.760
really can't self actualize in those countries because you can't

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00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.400
become who you really are, particularly if you're gay or lesbian.

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00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:56.360
My god, you could be in prison or even now

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00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.840
that was that was true in the UK. It was

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in nineteen sixty something that they abolished the punishment for

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gays in lesbians. I mean, that's not long ago I

763
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:14.760
was in my lifetime. Seriously, yeah, and so but ayea,

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I'm bringing you back to a personal level, and the

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key is to connect with yoursel and follow the impulses

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of your soul. Now I'm going to do something which

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I don't know whether it's going to work on that,

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but yeah. So so two and a half years ago,

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I was in the middle of a book and I

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got the message impulse from my soul to stop writing

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and start painting. And I knew immediately that I wanted

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to paint portraits. And I said to myself, okay, this

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is this is If this is true, then I need

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to practice my skills. So I set myself. I set

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myself a study program, studying the master's practicing, et cetera,

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et cetera, et cetera. And that's two and a half

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years ago, and I just about got to the where

778
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I feel like I've found my niche. And here is

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my latest painting.

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It's beautiful, just beautiful, And that's my Christmas card to most.

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Of my friends, which I just finished that today. So

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I don't believe that if you follow your sole impulse

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and you apply yourself. Now there's the key. You have

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00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.199
to apply yourself, you can do and become anything that

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00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:33.960
your soul wants to become. As you found out when

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you went to the university and had that experience, all

787
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.000
that impulse to studying what your dissertation have been about.

788
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:45.719
Oh, Richard, So we've come to the end of the

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show already. It goes by so fast. You know, this

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problem is listening by people around the world who really

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are interested in elevating their own experience and performance as

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00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.480
a leader and creating and being part of organizations that

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really are elevated in consciousness.

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Always like to leave them with well, I think I'd

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like to leave with the thought that there is a

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pathway to the implightenment, talk to this higher way of being,

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and it's important to follow your journey, be on your journey,

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00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:28.760
and to have an open mind, to be willing to

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00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:33.960
read very widely because there are many paths to enlightenment.

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There are many many paths, but you have to find

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00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:42.239
your path. And so the other two things are examine

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00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:47.599
your values as you, but more importantly, understand your fears

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00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.400
and how are they contributing to your well being? Can

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00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:52.079
you let them go?

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What a gift you are. This is our Christmas gift

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to our listeners and view You are my Christmas present, Richard.

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I'm so grateful to know you, and I look forward

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to reading your next book and certainly ha when you

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00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.559
come back on. Thank you for coming on working on purpose.

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Well, he's been in delight and the pleasure. And what

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can I say? Happy Christmas to all the listeners or

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all the viewers. Yeah, I wish you well being. Thank

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00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:21.840
you Richard.

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Listeners and viewers, we're going to want to learn more

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about this amazing man, Richard Barrett, his work and his books,

816
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:28.840
and the one thing you can do to start that

817
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.480
process is go to his website. It's Barrett Academy dot com.

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So B A R R E T t academy dot com.

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Last week, if you missed the Life Show, you can

820
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.519
always catch it recorded podcasts. We were on Era doctor

821
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.760
Andrew Kaddar talking about his experience and learnings of becoming

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00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.280
a patient as he stepped out of his role as

823
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.119
an anesthesiologist in medicine to having emergency open heart surgery.

824
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It was an incredibly tender and moving story, and he

825
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offered many ways to improve how healthcare is practice and

826
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.679
how patients can more effectively steward their own healing journey.

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Next week, we'll be on the area with Christine Predinger

828
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talking about how she has grown her company called WG Content,

829
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.320
which provides healthcare organizations with website content through an extreme

830
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.639
focus of kindness and work life harmony. See you there

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for another inspirment education conversation, and remember, work is one

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of the best means of realizing our potential and making

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the impact we crave. So let's work on Purpose.

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We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

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tune into Working on Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise

836
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:34.079
Cortes each week on W four CY. Together, we'll create

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a world where business operates conscientiously, Leadership inspires and passion performance,

838
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.719
and employees are fulfilled in work that provides the meaning

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and purpose they crave. See you there, Let's work on purpose,