Dec. 16, 2025

Design a Life You Love: How to Use Your Life Score to Guide the Way

Design a Life You Love: How to Use Your Life Score to Guide the Way
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Most of us are sprinting through life without a dashboard—mistaking motion for progress. In this episode, Bill Zujewski shares how to design a fulfilling life using ZenScore, a self-assessment tool from his book What’s Your Life Score? You’ll learn how to measure satisfaction across 8 life domains -- from Growth to Purpose —and turn vague feelings into actionable insight. Discover how clarity leads to better choices and a life lived with intention, balance, and joy.

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What's working on Purpose? Anyway? Each week we ponder the

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answer to this question. People ache for meaning and purpose

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at work, to contribute their talents passionately and know their

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lives really matter. They crave being part of an organization

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that inspires them and helps them grow into realizing their

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highest potential. Business can be such a force for good

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in the world, elevating humanity. In our program, we provide

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guidance and inspiration to help usher in this world we

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all want working on Purpose. Now, here's your host, doctor

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Elise Cortez.

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Welcome back to the Working and Purpose Program, which has

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been brought to you with passion and pride since February

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of twenty fifteen. Thanks tuning again this week. Great to

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have you. I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes. If we've

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not met before and you don't know me, I'm a

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workforce advisor, organizational psychologists, management consultant, loco, therapist, speaker and author.

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And my team and I at gustin Now help companies

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to enliven their and fortify their operations by building high

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performance teams, inspirational leaders and nurturing managers. And did you

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know that inspired employees outperform their satisfied peers by a

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factor of two point twenty five to one. In other words,

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inspiration is good for the bottom line. You can more

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about us and how we can work together at gustodashnow

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dot com or my personal site, Police Cortes dot com.

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Getting into today's program we have with us today Build

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Juzuski he's the founder and CEO of Good Life, a

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company dedicated to helping individuals design balance, fulfilling life through

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the Zen score system mobile app and his book, What's

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Your Life Score. He's also the CEO of Mymentex, a

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next generation social networking app for live events, which he

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launched in twenty twenty four. We'll be talking about his

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work and the components of his system to help you

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move from mistaking motion for progress and learning to learning.

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Excuse me, so he judges to day from Boston. I'm

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delighted to have you on, Bill, Welcome to Working on Purpose.

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Thank you, Elise. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm

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excited as well.

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Finally I get to talk about this. I loved your book.

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This is so beautiful what you did. I absolutely loved

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it was easy to read. And I also loved the app. Bill,

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it was so cool to navigate your Good Life app.

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And so listeners and viewers, as we're talking, when you

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look for his work Good Life, the app et cetera,

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it has two eyes in it. And we'll get to

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that a little bit later, but I want to just

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start by talking a little bit about you know, you've

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dedicated your self to something very specific. Bill. You're all

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about helping people achieve balance, purpose, and happiness. So usually

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that kind of dedication and focus usually comes from somewhere.

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What's the story. Where does this come from?

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Sure? Sure so?

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And yeah, that's my kind of I come from the

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software world, and Good Life is kind of a creative

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company of software with the purpose. My purpose most of

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my life has been my wife, my four kids, who

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are all in their twenties now get and helping my

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family and friends.

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I've been pretty lucky to do well in life.

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So I've always had this philosophy in life of living

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a holistic life but starting with the father, husband, son.

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And working in that hierarchy.

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And I've been lucky enough to also maintain that balance

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but also succeed in the business world, in the software world,

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which happened to be again a fortunate place to be

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the last twenty five years.

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Right, software eats the world.

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Sounds good to me. Well, let's hear a little about this.

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Let's talk a little bit about what you're doing at

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good life and also momenttis what are these entities about?

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Yeah, well, probably folks, let's focus on good life today.

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It's because it's more aligned with you know, working with purpose.

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So let me go back to this little tool that

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I created for myself twenty plus years ago. I know

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a lot of people out there, probably at the end

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of the year do their New Year's kind of resolutions, right,

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and I as an engineer. I started as an engineer,

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I had this little spreadsheet where I would look at

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like eleven rows. In this little spreadsheet, I created how

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am I doing with my career, How am I doing

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with my wife? How am I doing with my family?

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How am I doing with my fitness, my weight, my

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net app, my net worth? Right?

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And I would score myself with zero to ten.

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It'd be just like companies have corporate dashboards.

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I created this little life dashboard and it worked well

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for me. It just forced me to kind of self

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reflect on all the areas in life and not overfocus

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on one or the other. And I did it for years,

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and then I started seeing when my kids started hitting

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their twenties, I started seeing them starting to lose balance,

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not showing up for family gatherings or being stressed at work.

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So I started sharing my little tool with them and

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they kind of liked it, and we started using language

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like hey, your leisure scores like a five this this month?

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You know, fix that? So then I started thinking, maybe

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there's something to this. So most of my career has

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been in heading marketing for large software companies, and in

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my fifties I started getting into entreprene newership and that's

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where I am with good life now. I started this

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a year ago. I'm the solopreneur. I've hired contracts to

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build this little personal scorecard, and I'm seeing if it

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could be useful to whether it's people, coaches or heads

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of people of companies. Here's a tool to give individuals

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to help lead a balanced, purposeful life.

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I want to applaud that bill. But one of the

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things that I was just thinking about is that I

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was on my run this morning, is how much of

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my life satisfaction and fulfillment and direction has come from

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being able to hear that little voice inside me that said,

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put your next foot on that loopad right over there.

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And every time I've done that, every single time, it's

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led me to something bigger and more fulfilling. So I

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really want to applaud that you listen to this little whisper

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and that you've actually done something about it. I think

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that's just delightful and it's inspiring.

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Yeah, I really do now. I at first, like I said,

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I had twenty, I'm not a life coach, but I

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am in a way raising four young professionals now that

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are in their twenties. So I'm coaching coaching them and

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now I'm helping their friends, So all of a sudden

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now and I find amazing gratification and helping that younger

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generation avoid the mistakes that we all made when we

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were in our twenties and thirties and going through the process.

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So I'm not sure there's.

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A huge business here, and you know, but I do

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find it super rewarding and so far, so.

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Good, awesome. Well we'll die a little bit into what

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you've learned along the way. I thought it was fascinating

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and completely aligned you. You do talk about in your

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book you say finding purpose living your best life has

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been one of your greatest challenges. In rewards and over

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the years you've said you've learned that requires constant reflection, adaptation,

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and change. It's not something you figure out once. It's

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an ongoing journey. I completely agree with that. And so

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you then situate four a's to which are the keys

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to good life. Let's talk about those four a's.

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Yeah, so I can't remember where I stole it from,

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so you know, I think it was either Harvard or Stanford,

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so I had a science behind it. But add adaptation, awareness, acceptance,

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and action.

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So adaptation.

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Clearly, the world is changing so fast, like right now,

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I'm doing Instagram posts about AI, Like, if you're not

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serious about learning how to use AI in your life

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and in your career, you're going to fall behind.

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You have to adapt, right.

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So as for adapting, awareness is where my tool comes in,

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which is, you know, go through those eleven questions I

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have for how you feel about those eleven areas of

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your life, and you become more aware of that, right.

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And then acceptance is the A is seeing that score

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and realizing, oh my gosh, you know I have a

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three out of ten here, I need to do something

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about that, right, and accepting that. And then the last

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part of my tool is the A for action. I

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actually have documented a playbook for life. Now, some people

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are cynical and say there's no.

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Playbook for life, right.

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But what I've done is, yeah, there's things that people

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who are successful in their financial you know, part of

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their life. There's best practices. They pay off their credit card,

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they save ten percent every week, they have a four

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to one K, they have a budget.

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So I've tried to relationships. People you know are good listeners.

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They they're proactive and reaching out to friends, right, And

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there's so there's these things that people who are successful

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in these areas do And that's that's the action part,

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which is I've shared kind of these practices that become

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habits that eventually lead to higher scores in those areas

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of your life.

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So those are the four a's.

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I think it's tremendously helpful, tremendously helpful to have that

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kind of set of guidelines like that. And then on

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the other side of that, which I thought was really interesting,

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you do talk about the idea of regrets in life,

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and of course Dan Pink has written the book about

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regrets and how they service when we instead of you

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can think about regrets as being a way to navigate

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or respond to what you actually do want in life.

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But you do go on to say, and I think

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this is really interesting, is that and you are referencing

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Bronnie Waars the Five Regrets of the Dying talking about

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some of the biggest regrets come from neglecting relationships, passion,

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and purpose.

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Yeah. No, for sure.

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So again I'm going to reference another book coincidentally with

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the same title as my company, but with one Eye

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Good Life, that these Harvard professors recently wrote that did

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a study.

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I don't know if you've seen the study at least.

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Around three thousand families over eighty years and what l

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what attributes of their lives led to a happier, healthier,

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longer life, And by.

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Far it was relationships.

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The people around you in those last ten twenty thirty

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years of your life were the biggest factor by far,

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Like they added ten years to your life having that

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right partner people around you versus money and home and

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all those other factors that you strive for. So, I mean,

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one regret people have is not having that circle of

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relationships as as they get older. So one of the

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you know, I have this mnemonic help grow for the

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eight categories health, environment, leisure, purpose, growth, R for relationship,

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O for occupation, W for wealth. Our is probably the

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most important category of that wheel of life that you

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need to invest in to have a happy, fulfilling life.

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For sure. I'm a big believer in that.

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Well, and you're a beautiful walking example of that. I mean, there,

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I'm a divorced person. I've been divorced for nine years,

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and I do find myself envious that you have this,

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your wife, your four children. I'm very connected to my

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one daughter, but I appreciate that. So that is definitely

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something that's missing for me, the relationship part on the

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passions in the purpose front. One thing that's been fascinating

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short term purpose around a career because it's going to

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feed your wealth that you will use to support a

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family and your partner, and and then and and give

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and have other purpose of course of helping others and

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giving back, and and your purpose will change over various

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stages of your life depending on what you need and

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what you can give back. So again, p purpose is

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one of its own categories in the in the scores, right,

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what is your life plan? You know, and you say

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for the future and then break them down into into

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steps that you can take today. And I think that's

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really important. Another thing that I find when I'm speaking

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to audiences, Bill, is when I ask people to what's

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your purpose, and many people will say I don't know,

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or then they say even worse, they kind of shirk

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back and say, well, that's too big for me. I

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capable of that or whatever it is. But and the

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person have to be huge curing you know, world hunger

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or anything like that. It can be right in your

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own backyard. But I love your your advice to make

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a plan for your dreams. You could speak of it

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books been written about the secret you are what you think?

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Call it Nightingale, right, And so that you can if

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a vision in all these eight areas, like what is

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at home? Are they in the suburbs, are in the city,

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ten twenty years? Do you have kids? No kids? Are

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they playing sports? Are they right your career? Are you

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an executive or are your sorepreneur? Or like start to

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be surprised how many little decisions you make day to day,

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week to week are kind of self manifested because they're

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go over the next ten twenty thirty years. So they

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just kind of help you align rather than react day

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the time because I try to talk people out of

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making big moves to parts of the world where they

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have to start from scratch with no friends, no family,

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A paycheck. And if you had a vision of your

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life in New England within the suburbs with the circle

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of fly, you know, then why are you going to

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reflect on as we take our first break. Let's do that.

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I'm your host, Doctor release Cortez. We've been on are

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with Bill Zujwski. He's the founder and CEO of Good Life,

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a company dedicated to helping individuals design balance, fulfilling lives

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through the Zen score system mobile app and also his book.

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He's also the CEO of Momentex. We've been talking a

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bit about where this idea of working on a lifescore

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came from, why it's important. After the break, we're going

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Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing in meaning

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and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author, she helps companies

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visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

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leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and

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commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite

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a lease to speak to your organization, please visit her

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Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to working

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on Purpose. I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes, as I'm

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dedicated to helping create a world. Organizations thrive because they're

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people thrive. They're led by inspirational leaders that help them

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find and contribute their greatness, and we do business that

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better is the world. I keep researching and writing my

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own books. One of my latest came out. It's called

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a Great Revitalization, How activating meaning and purpose can radically

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en liven your business. And I wrote it to help

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leaders understand today's diverse and demanding and discerning workforce what

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they want and need to give their best and stay.

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And then I provide twenty two best practices to equip

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you to provide that for them and your leadership and

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your culture. You can find my books on Amazon or

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my personal site at least quoretest dot com. If you

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are just joining us. My guest is Bill Sujuski. He's

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the author of What's Your Life Score, a playbook for

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designing your best life? Such a great title. By the way, Bill,

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that is just so crispin compelling. Who doesn't want that?

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Thank you?

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Thank you all that work over the last thirty I've

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been in marketing for thirty years. I'm finally starting to

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use it up for my own neither helping corporations.

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Yes, right, nice, nice, well I would. I want to

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just dig into these different categories and really bring into

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life for people and listeners and viewers. As we do this,

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we want you to really be thinking about where are

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you strong in these categories? Where do you realize ooh,

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now that I hear it that way, I have, that's

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definitely an area that can I could work on. So

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let's just take it step by step. The first category

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Yeah, so let's start with health. Okay, so let me

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just for the for the people who haven't, which is

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most people not downloaded the app yet or read the book.

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There's two scores. It's not too confusing.

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The Zen score.

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The word zen is it is so you could probably

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guess it's how you feel about your life and it

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takes you like really one minute. It's eleven questions. So

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for health, the Zen score is I am very happy

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with my body, mind, health, and fitness right zero to ten,

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So how do you feel about your health?

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And then the life score is almost like a credit

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rating or for life, so it gets into actually what

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you're doing. So it asks you questions around your diet,

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whether you drink alcohol or smoke, whether you're getting the

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right amount of sleep, whether you're doing cardio exercise, whether

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you hydrate. Like so I've tried to like for that

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life score, you have taken those and that's the physical

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health score. There's also a mind you know, mental score

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around how you deal with fear, self doubt, procrastination, Like

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I think total in health there's like twenty twenty questions

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of practices that like I said, the score has almost

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a playbook. Like if you score low, you know why

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it is because you're not you score on hydration, it's

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because you're not drinking enough water. Right, So the two

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kind of work hand in hand. See how you feel

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about that area. If you feel great about health and

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your health, then then you could almost not spend as

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much time in the life score and understand exactly how

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you can get your health score from you know, not

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being fit, from like a two or three, two and eight.

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But that's that's kind of how the two scores work least.

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Okay, awesome, Yeah, I think it's very useful and really sobering,

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you know, when you look at these different things and

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you start to recognize where am I out of balance?

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And I think that word is important because I think

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we long ago gave up on the idea of work

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life balance and now it's really I think but most

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people go for is were quite harmony, integration, some kind

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of flow, et cetera. But balance in your overall system

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is really really critical.

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So I appreciate you, yeah, real real quick on that

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is because most people think of balance as two buckets

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work and non work, and I'm talking about more of

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an integrated mat yes, across all eight categories which you

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called out.

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Yeah, I love that. I think it's just essential. Okay,

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I just want to talk through each of them. So

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let's talk about environment next. I thought that was really

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interesting and I can tell you as you share my environment.

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I work from home, unless of course i'm with a

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client and where I work from my home makes a

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big difference to my well being, my sense of focus,

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my creativity, my mood, huge environment.

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Yeah, and so people underestimate the impact of this on

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their life.

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But you spend so much time at home.

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So the zen score of how you feel about that

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aspect is pretty simple. I like where I live and

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have a place I call home where I feel safe,

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can rest, relax.

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And enjoy company. Right, So do you have that in

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your life? Zero to ten.

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That's how you feel about your home right, But then

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what you want to want to look at? What can

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you do to get that home environment score up? I

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think I'm looking at my little questionnaire here, there's ten.

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There's ten questions.

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Home comfort like I have a safe, comfortable place. Cleanliness,

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I maintain a clean, clutter free you know, home environment, safety,

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natural elements. I surround myself with access to natural light

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and fresh air, noise, Location like I am in a

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place that's you know, I like where I live.

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Access to services is another one.

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My workspace, my commute, the weather, and then job opportunities.

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Right, So those actually there's eleven.

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Those eleven things are factors and objectives you should consider

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in finding the perfect home environment.

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So much in that right. I mean, I've chosen I

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live in Dallas, as I told you I would. I

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have chosen to stay near white Rock Lake. And it's

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a while and now for me, I can run to

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white Rock Lake, run around it. What's nine point three

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miles around the whole entire thing, But I can run

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two the lakes and sometime running there and come back

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and I get that beautiful, vital connection to nature. It's

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essential for me. So just as one example. And then

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the other thing that I thought was really interesting about

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your book that I wanted you to speak to a

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bit further. When you're talking about leisure, you do talk

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about how, oh sorry, that's what we're going to do next,

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and Brian talk about it won't let you do that next.

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There's a couple of things in specific that I really

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wanted to zero in on with it with the leisure stuff.

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And what's interesting is I think people do sometimes connect

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leisure to environment, but you have a very You're you're

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treating them separately, which I think is very useful. So

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let's talk about leisure next.

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Yeah, so let's let's go to the next Zen question here,

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and thank you for going in order.

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This is making a very easy good good And by.

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The way, that's why it's the engineer and me, not

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a system or Framework's not for everybody, but it really

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does help anchor your thinking and how.

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You organize your life.

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So on leisure, the question is I plan experiences and vacations,

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I take time for hobbies and interests and have fun

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and leisure in my life.

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Right.

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So it is different from home, Right, It's about experiences

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and hobbies and interest and those aspects. And some of

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the things that go into the playbook for leisure is

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exactly that. What hobbies do you have with outdoor activities?

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How much reading do you do, do you do any

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mindfulness or restfulness.

472
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:27.200
Type of activities?

473
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:31.240
Do you socialize, do you do digital detox, do you

474
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go on vacations, do you do aspire some kind of

475
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:35.200
self care activity?

476
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.160
And do you have play and fun in your life? Right?

477
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:43.759
So those are kind of the best practices for having leisure.

478
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:44.079
In your life.

479
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.799
And it's so important to stay refreshed and have joy

480
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in your life, Like why are we even here if

481
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there's no joy in experiencing life?

482
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:56.559
Right, It's so important.

483
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:59.359
I've got to believe that across the board that one

484
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gets pretty low scores for a lot of people. I

485
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.559
got to believe people aren't taking their vocations. They're worried

486
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:08.000
about you know, what happens if they do take vacations,

487
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.960
et cetera. But but when you look at all these

488
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.599
different things that benefits reducing stress, improving mental health, enhancing creativity.

489
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.839
And I know, you know when I ask people what

490
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.759
what lights you up? And people like I don't remember

491
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.640
the last of my fault, light up? Lit up? You know.

492
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.079
But then you go on to something interesting about the

493
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:27.240
brainway functions when we're in these different states, which I

494
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.920
think is really really really interesting. And so you talk

495
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.000
about how there's four different states that you talk about.

496
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So and when we're when we're in better way, but

497
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.599
that's when we're active and focused at start working mindset.

498
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:41.839
Can you say a bit more about is that like

499
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.839
our like this is our daily sort of place to

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be or is that our life? Yeah?

501
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:52.680
Yeah, so, And I'm know neuroscientists for sure, but I've

502
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.480
read enough that that I'm interested as an engineer, interested

503
00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.839
in this notion that are that you can actually track

504
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:06.039
when where like your frequency of your your brain waves

505
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.720
are different depending on the state you're in. When you're

506
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:12.319
actively in focused, there's this you're at this beta wave level,

507
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:16.839
and when you're when you're relax and unwinding, it's kind

508
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.240
of you slow, your whole body slows down, and the

509
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:23.680
alpha waves are slower, and then and then theta waves

510
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.480
get even deeper where you're you're starting to almost like

511
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:31.759
day dream and do light meditation. And then finally the

512
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.920
slowest you know is these the you know, deep sleep

513
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.680
delta what's called delta waves where you're you're in a

514
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.519
deep sleep and your your your body is able to

515
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:50.079
restore energy and restore itself because you're not burning energy

516
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.599
at these higher levels when you're like beta focused and

517
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.599
totally all out doing something that's burning calories burning energy. Right,

518
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.559
So there's this cycle that you're, you're, you're and your

519
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.000
body go through and the waves that the scientists measure

520
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:05.759
show those cycles.

521
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.759
I think it's fascinating. I'm really fascinated with how the

522
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.839
brain works and such. Being able to take time to

523
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.839
be able to get yourself into those places where you

524
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.319
can meditate and daydream and be creative and of course

525
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:20.200
rest well, so so important. Okay, so now next we've

526
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.000
got to talk about purpose. You know, you can't leave

527
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:23.279
me without talking about purpose.

528
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.559
Yeah, so of course.

529
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And by the way, I am a big believer of

530
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.680
purpose in the in the corporate environment because I know

531
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:37.240
you advocate for that too.

532
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.319
I mean, you said it in the beginning in your intro.

533
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:45.039
Right, A happy, healthy employee is a more productive employee.

534
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:50.119
So it's kind of strange, but for my companies, most

535
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.559
companies I work for for twenty something years were customer first.

536
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:55.119
I'm one hundred.

537
00:28:54.839 --> 00:29:01.240
Percent employees first, Like, my company exists to create jobs

538
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:06.119
for people and let them fulfill their lives, and then

539
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.319
we figure out how to serve the customer next. So

540
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.880
I think for purpose, let's go to the Zen score question.

541
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:17.200
So the Zen score the Zen score question is I

542
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:23.240
feel guided by purpose spiritually, spiritually and personally, and I've

543
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.079
committed to serving others and making the world a better place. Right,

544
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:31.400
pretty straightforward. So so rate yourself on whether you feel

545
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.000
like you have that right and then and then the

546
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:41.880
practices you want to get into are things like, uh, philanthropy. Obviously,

547
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.559
I support you know, do you support local community and

548
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:49.400
charities through some kind of involvement? Right? Then there's the planet, right,

549
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.680
do you take action to protect the world that we

550
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:57.839
all the scarce resources that we all share. Right. Mentoring, Right,

551
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:04.279
there's super great purpose in coaching, tutoring, mentoring other other people.

552
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:09.559
Are you personal integrity? Are you spiritual?

553
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:10.599
Uh?

554
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.400
Do you want to leave a legacy for your family?

555
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.000
Do you do you have creative expression? Is that your

556
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.160
purpose to bring joy and art into the world? And

557
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.160
do you feel yourself connected to some greater purpose? Right?

558
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.799
So these are all dimensions or objectives of having a

559
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:36.039
purposeful life, whether it's the planets, other people, your family,

560
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.799
you know, greater cause you can find purpose in so

561
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:40.599
many things.

562
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:43.680
So so true. And I just want to go through

563
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.880
this briefly, Bill, because I know when I'm out speaking

564
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:47.640
and I ask people, you know, do you tell many

565
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.000
of you know your purpose? And it usually is, you know,

566
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.599
maybe three percent of the crowd, maybe maybe five percent.

567
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.759
And then people feel bad that they don't know their purpose.

568
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.519
And I'm I know, you know, there's not about feeling bad,

569
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.839
but they don't know where to start and they don't

570
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:01.920
know how to how to access it. So let's just

571
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:06.799
talk briefly. You you you offer five steps to really

572
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.279
discovering and embracing your purpose. Let's talk about those, starting

573
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.079
with reflecting on your values and passions. That's a first,

574
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:14.400
That's a great place to start.

575
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:16.680
Yeah, I mean.

576
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:24.640
Most people have something they've become good at or naturally

577
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:29.319
good at and and and are excellent at, and they

578
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:34.160
can share with others, whether it's a talent or knowledge

579
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.839
you know, so so, so come up with a purpose

580
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:42.279
that's aligned with kind of who you are and what

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00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:46.039
your talents talents are. I mean that that is the

582
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:47.839
one of the first steps.

583
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.079
Now, interesting that.

584
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.039
You know there's one expression around follow your your passion

585
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:01.039
for careers, which is a little tricky because you know,

586
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:05.799
if your passion is music, and it's hard to create

587
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:10.640
a life and career. Not all of us could be musicians, right,

588
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.440
are professional athletes. So you have to kind of balance,

589
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.279
you know, your passions that may that you may be

590
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:22.000
able to address outside of work, and then passions that

591
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.160
you could actually create and work.

592
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.680
So I'll give you an example of how you can

593
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:31.279
create a passion. I was never passionate around marketing.

594
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.920
I never knew I was going to go into marketing, right,

595
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.799
But what ended up happened over happening over time was

596
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.240
I actually became pretty good at it and then better

597
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.480
and better, and then I started realizing, oh my gosh,

598
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:47.200
I'm helping this company, you know, grow revenue, and now

599
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.200
we're hiring two hundred more people, and now we're going

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00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.880
public like all of a sudden, Now, my excellence, my

601
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.720
purpose has become to help you know, this company and

602
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.960
all the people around me have a place to work

603
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.279
and create this large working community. That's amazing, right, So

604
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.640
so you can you can become excellent at something and

605
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:14.920
making and being able to use that for a bigger cause.

606
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.119
You know, that will give you some purpose beyond kind

607
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:19.559
of the purpose you were born with.

608
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:23.960
That's a beautiful way is situated. Bill, Thank you. That's rubber.

609
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Our last break here. I'm your host, doctor Elis Cortes.

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We were on the air with Bill Zajewski. He's the

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founder and CEO of Good Life, a company dedicated to

612
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.000
helping individuals design balanced, fulfilling lives through the Zen score

613
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:41.559
system mobile app, and also his book, Sorry your name

614
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:42.720
of the book is called once.

615
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.799
Again, What's What's your Life Score?

616
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What's your Life Score? Yes, we've been talking a bit

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about several of the categories from the life Score. After

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break we will continue so that we finished all the

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rest of them. We'll be right back.

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Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing in meaning

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and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author, she helps companies

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visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

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leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and

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00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.320
commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite

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00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.079
a lease to speak to your organization, please visit her

626
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.360
at elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about how to get

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00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:42.199
your employees working on purpose. This is Working on Purpose

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with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our program today or

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to open a conversation with Elise, send an email to

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Alise A Lise at elisecortes dot com. Now back to

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working on Purpose.

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Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to working

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on Purpose. I'm your host, Doctor Ely's Cortes. As you

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know by now, this program is dedicated to empowering and

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inspiring you along your journey to realize more of your potential.

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If you want to learn more about how we can

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work together and more about the Gusto Now Academy for

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00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.039
leaders and individuals on various journeys alike. Make your way

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to gustodeshnow dot com and then navigate to the training

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tab and you'll find more information about the academy if

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you are just joining us today. My guest is Bill Zujuski.

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He's the author of What's Your Life Score, a playbook

643
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.679
for designing your best life. So where we are in

644
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.239
terms of where I see the wheel is we're on growth. Yes,

645
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.280
one of my favorite things to talk about by it

646
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:40.320
at all needs.

647
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:46.079
G for growth, and so I don't know who said it,

648
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.559
but there's a great quote. If you're not growing, you're dying, right,

649
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:53.960
So I'd rather be growing than doting. So anyways, the

650
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:56.880
Zen score question about how you feel about this area

651
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:02.440
is pretty straightforward. I enjoy learning and constantly invest in

652
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.239
becoming better at all aspects of my life, right, So

653
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.119
I'm a lifelong learner.

654
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.679
I've instilled that in my kids. We're passionate.

655
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.760
If we don't know a answer to a question, we're

656
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:22.280
finding that answer in the moment because we're just curious

657
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:31.079
by nature. So the habits of the Growth score is

658
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.760
a little different, right, So it's around a commitment, an

659
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:41.679
approach to each day of investing in personal development. Right,

660
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:45.760
it's goal setting, right, having having goals that you have

661
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.480
from month to month, year to year's it's having a

662
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:55.519
plan for career development. It's getting feedback from your partner,

663
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:01.079
your family. It's challenging yourself, right, don't coast in life,

664
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.280
You're just going to be unhappy. And you know, it's

665
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:12.159
about self awareness of what you have or habits and

666
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:17.239
then just starting to be resilient and reflect on and

667
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.519
how you're growing. So those are those are various like

668
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:23.400
kind of practices of having having growth.

669
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In your life.

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But one, uh, it's not a secret, but it's a

671
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.960
principle of mind or a philosophy I should say that

672
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I really believe in is the secret to happiness, which

673
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.280
is having goals and making progress like progress. Like think

674
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.679
about just in a day when I when a day

675
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.559
goes by and at the end of the day, I

676
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:50.320
didn't make progress, Like I wasted the whole day, didn't

677
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.440
get anything done in my in my work or my

678
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.079
home or my relationship. I'm like, oh, I feel like down,

679
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.920
like you know, But when I have those days or

680
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.000
weeks where oh my gosh, I got this done. I've

681
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:08.480
planned the vacation I had, I met with you know

682
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.320
these three I didn't you know, waste the day gaining

683
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.800
or doing something else or right, you just feel better,

684
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.760
You're happier, right, So I think the key one of

685
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:22.440
the keys to happiness progress right, which is part of

686
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:23.599
the growth category.

687
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.280
Yeah, no question, And I really want to encourage you

688
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:31.440
listeners and viewers, even though your organization maybe doesn't invest

689
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.320
in ways for you to learn and grow. They don't

690
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.079
provide programs I would encourage you to do on your own.

691
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:37.840
So a couple of things to that is. One is

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I have many people that I work with that hire

693
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us directly out of their own pocket for coaching. They

694
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.239
don't wait for their employeers to do that. I've seen

695
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.960
their careers soar and grow. It's amazing in them as individuals.

696
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.159
And then two, back to Bill's earlier point about you know, passions,

697
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.559
et cetera, and interest in hobbies, I mean I encourage

698
00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.960
you to go and develop those. I mean I know

699
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.159
for me right now, Bill, I take improv lessons, I

700
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:08.960
take storytelling lessons, I take tango dancing lessons and singing lessons,

701
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.360
and they all delight me. They're definitely growing me. So

702
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.559
really want to just celebrate the idea of growth. And

703
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.480
we also know that a lot of people leave their

704
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.840
jobs because they don't feel like they're growing. And there

705
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.599
are additional ways you can cultivate that growth in yourself.

706
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:29.400
So really important to keep growing and progressing. Okay. So

707
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.400
the R is the R for relationships or for romance.

708
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:38.199
Okay, So in the Zen score, I thought it was

709
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.280
so important. It's the biggest factor that I actually broke

710
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:48.039
relationships the big R into two questions. So in the

711
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:52.239
Zen score it is romance and friendships. I think those

712
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:53.320
are two separate things.

713
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:53.840
Okay.

714
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.800
So right, so when you go to uh, let's see,

715
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:02.119
let's go to the next question. My partner and I

716
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.679
have an amazing relationship.

717
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.199
And I am happy with the romance in my life.

718
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:11.400
Right, So, so like this is definitely different for every

719
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:12.000
single person.

720
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:14.800
Every person is so unique happy with the romance.

721
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.960
Maybe you're at a stage where it's not as important

722
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.480
as it used to be when you were younger, right,

723
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.559
or maybe it's super important because you're looking for you know,

724
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:29.760
that that that close intimate relationship you know, in the

725
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.719
middle of your life or early in your life. So

726
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.000
it all depends on where you are here. But it's

727
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.519
having that one person that that's kind of close to

728
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.360
you that you call kind of your your life life partner. Now,

729
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:48.519
around relationships, there's also a friendship you have you know,

730
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.760
family and friends around you that that support you, you

731
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:58.480
can go to and all that the habits are. You know,

732
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.199
what do you need to have relationships? Now? This is

733
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.039
people And I learned this the hard way. I wish

734
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:09.480
someone told me this, Like, relationships don't just happen naturally,

735
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.880
you actually have to invest in them, like people reciprocate.

736
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.159
Like to get love, you have to give love, right,

737
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.320
to get support, you have to give support right, and

738
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:23.400
and to be one sided and just be a taker

739
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:24.679
and not a giver.

740
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:27.840
You know you're gonna have poor relationships. And I just

741
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.360
look back. I have good friendships.

742
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.440
I wish I had more like blood brothers right where

743
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.199
I you know, where I gave more. Some people are

744
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.280
lucky and have that, and I wish I get invested

745
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.960
in more in those those super close relationships.

746
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:46.840
And I have a great one with my kids and

747
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:48.559
my family and have good friends.

748
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:53.239
But even even here though, right, you need to spend

749
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.639
quality time. So some of the habits here right, effective communication,

750
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.960
quality time with these people empathy, right, encouraging them, helping

751
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:09.920
them resolve conflict, expressing love, right forgiveness, gratitude, knowing how

752
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:15.360
to apologize, having a social circle, right shared interest in

753
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:20.639
your relationships. There's a lot of Again there's no playbook

754
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.639
or manual, but there's definitely things you should try and

755
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:29.880
do that could kind of improve the quality and the

756
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.360
number of your relationships.

757
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.159
And if you just ignore it, it's not just going

758
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:33.599
to happen.

759
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.519
You know, to your point earlier about that study that

760
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.559
you talked about, I do know that study, and that

761
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:42.159
is it's such a powerful set of results. You just

762
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.559
can't ignore how important relationships are. And then when you

763
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.719
look at the isolation and depression epidemics that we're in today,

764
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.960
it's an indication that we aren't spending we're not in

765
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.920
maybe investing in the quality of those relationships to be

766
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.840
able to have the benefit of this good, balanced, healthy

767
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:03.519
life that you're really helping a steward. So I think

768
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.960
that's really important that we emphasize this idea of relationships.

769
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:08.320
Yeah, no, it's funny.

770
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:12.559
I had I will talk about momentics about my other companies.

771
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.599
So I got two going right now. I don't know

772
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.039
how each is going to do. But I was struggling

773
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.400
at first. I met these two gentlemen friends of my

774
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.039
daughters in their twenties, and they had this cool ideal

775
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.400
around saving their ticket stuffs from concerts and you know

776
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:29.519
games they went to.

777
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.320
Right, you put them in the fridge or in the

778
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:32.440
shoe box.

779
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.800
And they're kind of nostalgic, and they're like, oh, there's

780
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.599
no there's they're digital tickets. There's no now, there's no

781
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:42.400
version of that to save save that. So we started.

782
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.480
We created this momentics app to save your memories and

783
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.760
tickets from events, and it did okay. But what we

784
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:54.880
realized people really liked was knowing what their friends, what

785
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.920
events they were going to ahead of time. So then

786
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.280
we started sharing what events they're planning on going to,

787
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.280
are interested in going, and all of a sudden it

788
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.920
flipped from a nostalgic event to a social event. And

789
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.400
I only bring this up because I found the purpose

790
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:13.960
in now our company is really to help people get

791
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:14.719
in real life.

792
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.199
It's called the IRL. I don't know if you've heard IRL.

793
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:21.199
Right, to get these twenty year olds, these young people

794
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.840
out of the virtual world, out of the gaming world,

795
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.400
and back in bars and clubs and DJs and restaurant

796
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:33.599
and concerts and Fenway Park and get them out of

797
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:34.320
the house.

798
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:35.800
And connecting with people in real life.

799
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.320
Right, So that ends up being kind of the purpose

800
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.960
and mission for Momentics.

801
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.440
That now gives me a reason to work hard.

802
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:48.400
For that company beyond just trying to create a revenue

803
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.719
stream around the killer app. Right.

804
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.599
I love it when you start dancing with something like that,

805
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.039
when you fall into and recognize, Oh, that's what people

806
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:57.920
need and want. I didn't see that, but now I

807
00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:59.760
can respond to that. And that's, by the way, the

808
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.199
and another important part of purpose is being present to

809
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:04.920
what is going on in the world and what do

810
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.079
people need and want that you can actually help with.

811
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.280
So I love how you shared that. And speaking of

812
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.559
the idea of the world of work, the next area

813
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:17.480
is occupation, and I see so many people disconnected on

814
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:20.000
this build. So many people are struggling with, you know,

815
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:21.960
really what they want their work to be, or how

816
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.440
it's going for them, or who it's going well for

817
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.519
or not going well for. Yeah.

818
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:34.760
No, this one is complicated because we talk a little bit.

819
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:40.039
About balancing your passion with the reality of having some

820
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.199
fiscal responsibility in the world to pay bills and raise

821
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.960
a family and all that. So the zen score part

822
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:51.119
of this how you feel about is I am happy

823
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:56.719
with my occupation, choice and direction and enjoy my work. Right.

824
00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:02.480
So I've I give the kind of the advice that

825
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.320
when you start becoming good at what you do, when

826
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:11.320
you strive for excellence and start feeling the impact of

827
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:16.679
your work, that that can become your your your passion.

828
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.719
So I think, I think, and it's not it's not

829
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:22.559
rocket science.

830
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:24.280
I think there's a study that you know, you got

831
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:26.559
to put in ten thousand hours to become a master

832
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.440
at something, right, So there's no shortcuts here. You still

833
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.239
have to have strong work ethic and get that stuff done.

834
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:34.559
But then the habits.

835
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:36.639
Let's get to the what you have to you have

836
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:44.159
to do for for having the right occupation right. Education

837
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:48.119
is important some meaning of what you do that that

838
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:52.119
adds value to the world, whether it's your company, your peers,

839
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:52.880
your family.

840
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.800
Right, So some meaning in your job mastery.

841
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:02.679
You know, like I said, striving for excellence, compensation is important.

842
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.960
You you need to be able to have a job

843
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.679
that gives you the funds to do the things you

844
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:11.559
want to do. In life.

845
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.960
So sometimes, yeah, you have to sacrifice working hard. I

846
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:20.000
believe me when I say balance across those all eight areas.

847
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:24.960
When I'm working, I'm working hard, smarter and so so

848
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.480
that I'm focused and I'm getting And if i have to,

849
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.199
I'll get up at six am and just start earlier

850
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.280
so that I have time at night. But there there's

851
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:38.119
no there's no shortcuts here. And having you know, paying

852
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:41.000
attention to all those eight categories, you still got to

853
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.199
put in the time and effort, right, So the other

854
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.719
aspects are you know, how stressed are you in your

855
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.000
job and you know that gets into your your manager

856
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.679
the culture is it the right culture? Like if if

857
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.360
you are in a position where every Monday morning you

858
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.400
like can't even get out of bed because you hate

859
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.039
your job so much, you really need to pause and

860
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.079
realize how that could be overflowing into all the other

861
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:14.039
aspects of your life and how much harm it could

862
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:14.639
be doing.

863
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:16.920
And people are afraid of change.

864
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.079
Career is a big change, but that's one of the

865
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.599
biggest changes you can make that could have the biggest

866
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:28.079
impact on those other areas of relationships, leisure, relationship with

867
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.719
your wife, all those other things. So it's not the

868
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.480
most important thing, right. I try to say it's all balanced,

869
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.239
you know, but it's it's one of the eight occupation.

870
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.000
Really important to get it right and get it well. Well,

871
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:43.400
we're run a time to talk about any of the

872
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:45.440
additional ones here, but let me give you a chance

873
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.960
to close the conversation, bill and how you'd like to

874
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.039
you know, the show's listenvite people around the world. What

875
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.079
would you like to leave them with?

876
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:56.159
Yeah, sure, it's so funny. The last one and not

877
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:58.920
look for that. We're going to skip is wealth because

878
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.800
it's probably the least. So that's great at least it's

879
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:06.239
like almost symbolic, right, people are assessed that like the

880
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:07.400
the best, the only.

881
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:08.039
Metric out there.

882
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.800
And I was frustrated with this that people have for

883
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.880
their lives is their their wealth, right, their homes, their cars,

884
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.119
their assets, And it's not.

885
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:17.960
A great metric.

886
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:22.039
So I hope, I hope you you heard here that

887
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:26.159
I'm trying to create a metric that's not just about money,

888
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:31.400
that it's a way to assess yourself and score your

889
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.239
life in these other eight areas. So I don't know

890
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:38.079
if everyone has the engineering loves the like the you know,

891
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:39.880
the accountability of a number.

892
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:40.840
Maybe the younger.

893
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.920
Kids, you know, but we live in a gamified word,

894
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.800
maybe they'll appreciate kind of being like at a seventeen

895
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.039
trying to get to ninety or whatever. But yeah, that's

896
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:49.920
what I'll leave with people with. Check out my website

897
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.360
good life dot com. You could download the app there,

898
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.519
go to Amazon search for Bills of Juice Ski or

899
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.559
What's your Life Score? Find my book and you know,

900
00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.960
see see what you think of the system and the concept.

901
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:03.280
Yes, well, I appreciate so much of coming on Working

902
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:04.920
in Purpose. Phil has been great to get to know you,

903
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.559
read your book, download your app you It was awakening

904
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.000
for me and I know it will be for our

905
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.519
listeners and viewers. Thank you so much for being Working

906
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:12.079
on Purpose.

907
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:14.480
Thanks, Elise. Was great.

908
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.000
We will see you next week for yet another nourishing

909
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.480
and inspiring conversation on this program where we bring on

910
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.039
thought leaders to advance the conversation on creating destination workplaces,

911
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.280
inspirational leaders and people that can be fulfilled in their work.

912
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.320
We'll see you there.

913
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.360
We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

914
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.480
tune into Working on Purpose featuring your host doctor Elise

915
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:41.119
Cortes each week on W four C. Why Together, We'll

916
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:45.119
create a world where business operates conscientiously. Leadership inspires and

917
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.559
passion performance and employees are fulfilled in work that provides

918
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.719
the meaning and purpose they crave. See you there, Let's

919
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:52.840
work on purpose.