July 15, 2025

What Matters Most: The Hidden Power of Proving You Matter

What Matters Most: The Hidden Power of Proving You Matter

"We don’t need more programs. We need more proof. When people see the difference they’re making, they don’t burn out. They burn bright,” says Wendy Lipton-Dibner. Even the most mission-driven organizations can miss one essential truth: people aren’t just working for a paycheck or even a purpose—they’re yearning for proof that their time, talent, and care are making a real difference. In this conversation, we consider what if showed people the transformation they’re creating?

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What's working on Purpose? Anyway? Each week we ponder the

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answer to this question. People ache for meaning and purpose

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at work, to contribute their talents passionately and know their

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lives really matter. They crave being part of an organization

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that inspires them and helps them grow into realizing their

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highest potential. Business can be such a force for good

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in the world, elevating humanity. In our program, we provide

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guidance and inspiration to help usher in this world we

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all want Working on Purpose. Now, here's your host, doctor

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Elise Cortes.

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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose program, which has

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been brought to you with passion and price since February

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of twenty fifteen. Thanks for juning again this week. Great

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to have you. I'm your host, doctor Earlescoretes. If we

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have not met before and you don't know me, I'm

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a workforce advisor, organizational psychologist, management consultant, local therapist, speaker

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and author, and my team and I at Gusto now

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help companies to enliven and fortify their operations by building

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it a dynamic, high performance culture, inspirational leadership and nurtery

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managers activated by meaning and purpose. Many organizations are not

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aware of how critical it is to invest in developing

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their leaders and managers not just for their own effectiveness,

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but also to avoid burnout to keep them fulfilled, but

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also so that they can measure and monitor the purpose

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experience of their organization to keep it working as an

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operational imperative. You can learn more about us and how

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we can work together at gustodeshnau dot com or my

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personal site at Leascortes dot com. Getting today's program we

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have with us today Wendy Lipton Dibner. She's the president,

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founder and CEO of profession Impact, Inc. She is the

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developer of organizational impact strategy, the inventor of the real

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world Impact Metrics and the creator of the Companion app.

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She has helped thousands of enterprise, healthcare, and small businesses,

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as well as nonprofits, increased team effectiveness and revenue as

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direct result of making a measurable difference to people's lives.

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She's the author of What Matters Matters Most. How leaders

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build impassion, engagement, unrivaled loyalty, and boundless growth by measuring

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real world impact, which we'll be talking about today, and

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situating how organizations can increase profitability by maximizing and capitalizing

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on the real world impact they create for all stakeholders. Wendy,

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welcome to Working on Purpose.

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Thank you, Lisa. I'm so happy to finally see you.

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This is great, It is so great.

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Thanks for waiting for me. Let'sen thank forwards. We're having

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a little few technical troubles there for so forgive me.

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I'm on my phone today, so I'm a little smaller

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maybe to you, but just as large an impacting message,

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I hope. So, Wendy, let's just first by celebrating this

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beautiful thing you put in the world, this gorgeous book

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you created.

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Thank you, nat, thank you, thank you never.

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Never tire of celebrating my guest books on air. Wendy

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so really really loved the read, got so much out

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of it. Excited to share with our listeners and viewers

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just what you came up with, just because we may

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have to go a little bit shorter on the show,

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just that if you could do just a little short introduction.

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You know you're a social scientist, as am. I been

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doing organizational strategy for many, many years. Why did you

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write this book? Aren't you busy enough?

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I don't think I could ever be busy enough. I

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love this stuff. Okay, here's the short. So forty years ago,

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I was invited to present some research at the US

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Senate on a hospital and evaluation. It was a magnificent opportunity.

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We all went to the Senate, I did my presentation.

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I was very very young, and I was so excited,

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and then they asked me a bunch of questions, and

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then after the question they actually voted to make a

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difference for millions of people. And everybody was excited except

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me because on the plane I realized the senators didn't

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ask me anything about how the patients did, about what

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the doctors did, about what the real impact of that

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hospital was what they were interested in is cost, money, profitability, salaries, etc. Etc.

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It so through me that I thought I needed to

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do something. I walked into a bank the next day

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asked them to give me a loan so that I

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could open a social laboratory to prove that businesses could

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make more money if we focused on impact than on money.

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So that was forty years ago. A lot has happened since,

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but I have spent my career helping all of these

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organizations to actually make significantly higher revenues by bringing down

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the priority on revenue and bringing up the priority on impact.

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So that's where I've been. We went through COVID. Everybody

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complained to me about how miserable their teams were and

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it was a disaster. You don't need me to describe it.

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And one night I was lying in bed and I

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couldn't sleep, So, like a good red blooded entrepreneur, I

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took up my phone, went under the covers and started scrolling.

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And very long story short, at least what happened was

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I saw a post that just nabbed me. It was

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somebody who was talking about how much they hated their job,

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hated their boss, hated their life. Hated the work they

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had to do, hated the commute, but that they would

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do it forever if they could just figure out how

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it means something what they're doing matters. And I heard

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this for years, obviously, as you have as well. But

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this particular post went viral and hundreds upon hundreds of

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people were responding to how much they hated YadA YadA

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and how much they wish they could figure out how

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to do something that matters. And I finally had had

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enough of this after forty years, and I decided I

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know what to do, and so I walked in the

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next morning I had a doctor's appointment. I told my

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doctor and friend for years, I said, look, I have

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a system that I have been teaching for years. I

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think I have a way to turn it into something

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that could really make a difference. Would you be interested

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in knowing exactly what happens after you're done helping your

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patient for years after that? And he just raised his

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hand and he said, can I be first?

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That's my kind of Galwindy. I'm so happy to meet

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you and know you and be connected to you, having

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learned from you, being inspired by you. This is what

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the world needs. And if you heard the introduction to

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the show. We do talk about and people crave knowing

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they matter. I'm a meeting at work researcher, I get it.

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So you know, let's first situate or next situate for

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our listeners and viewers, just the dismal situation. You know

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what we're dealing with here, why you're helping to address.

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In the United States, the engagement rate is twenty one

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percent or thirty one percent. Outside globally it's thirty it's

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twenty one percent. So, ladies and gentlemen, what that means

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is if you're inside the United States running a business,

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what that really translates to is, for every ten employees

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that you have, you have three of them that are

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really surging for trying to produce results and make things happen,

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and seven of them that are either holding steady or

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pulling you back. That's what that means. So it is

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critical that we address this issue. And you, of course

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talk about all kinds of things organizations have tried. We're

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not going to talk about those because we want to

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focus on what it is that you've done. But I

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just wanted to situate for our listeners and viewers just

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how grave This problem is I don't know how any

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business makes any money with those kind of numbers, right.

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Right, And the thing is, that's all they care about

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is making money, and that's why they're not making money

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in my humble experience. Yes, So to your point, at

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least the leaders, and I've watched them, they're doing everything

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they knowed how to do. Frankly, they have paid me

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to come and help, right, So I see what they're doing,

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and the seminars and the trainings and the woohoo parties

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and all this kind of stuff that lasts for a minute.

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The question becomes at the end of the day, what's missing?

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And when we figured out what was missing, there was

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nothing to stappen.

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Yeah, And I also want to situate, you know, just

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think about all the things that organizations also do, the

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five star ratings, you talk about, the dashboards, even you know,

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the employee engagement surveys, even all those sort of things

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that really don't really get to the heart of the matter.

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And I really really loved I mean, I've spent so

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much time Wendy now looking at various perspectives on what

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the pandemic has done for us, and as a social

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scientist too, like you. I can't help that, but I

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think you've situated something so critical that I want to situate.

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From your book that talks about really one of the

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major effects of the pandemic. You say the pandemic didn't

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substantially change what people want, but it dramatically shifted priorities

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regarding how long people were willing to wait for what

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they want and what they were willing to do to

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get it. If the pandemic taught us anything it showed

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us that life is too short to settle for less

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than what we truly want in business and in life.

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Exactly right, exactly right. And you know one of my

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other books, that was the whole theme of the book

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about how it takes everything to make ourselves get what

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we want, and then we don't get it, and life

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is too short, and the question becomes, how are we

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holding ourselves back? And historically, you know social science, all right,

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what's all of this that has to do with why

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we can't get what we want? Sometimes it's not us.

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Sometimes just once in a blue moon, there's something else

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we can blank. And for once in a very long career,

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I can tell you for sure that if you're watching

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this and you watch this and you watch Elise, and

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you know all the great stuff she brings you. There

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is one thing that we all missed, and that one

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thing is that employees and frankly, leaders need to know

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that they are making an honest to goodness difference in

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people's lives. It's one thing to say my work matters.

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It's another thing to say how it matters, what matters,

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when it matters, for whom it matters, what we can

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do to prove it. That was my diehard decision and

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we've done it.

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Oh, I can't wait to dig into more of what

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that really means because the listeners and viewers are probably like, Okay,

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now give me the meat. So let's take our first break.

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I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortez. We've been in the

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area with Wendy Lipton dim Nurse. He's the president, founder

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and CEO of Professional Impact, Inc. And the developer of

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organizational impact stress rategy, inventor of real world impact metrics,

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and creator of the Companion app. She has helped thousands

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of enterprise, healthcare, small businesses, and nonprofit leaders to increase

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team effectiveness and revenue, and as a direct result of

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making a measurable difference in people's lives. We've been talking

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a bit about where this book came from, why it's

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critical for today's standards. After we're going to dive into

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just what does it look like to measure this real

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world impact. We'll be right back.

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Doctor Elise Court says as a management consultant specializing in

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meaning and purpose, an inspirational speaker and author, she helps

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companies visioneer for a greater purpose among stakeholders and develop

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purpose inspired leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance,

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and commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to

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invite a least to speak to your organization, please visit

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her at elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about how to

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get your employees working on purpose. This is working on

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Purpose with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our program today

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or to open a conversation with Elise, send an email

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to Alise A Lisee at eliscortes dot com. Now back

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to working on Purpose.

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Thanksteresting with us, and welcome back to working on Purpose.

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I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes, as I too, am

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dedicated to helping create a world where organizations thrive because

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their people thrive are led by inspirational leaders that help

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them find and contribute their greatness, and we do business

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that betters the world. I keep researching your writing my

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own books, so one of them came out recently. It's

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called The Great Revitalization. How activating meaning and purpose can

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at least Cortes dot com if you are just now

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joining us. My guess is Wendy Lipton Dibner. She's the

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author of What Matters Matters Most, How leaders build impassioned engagement,

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unrivaled loyalty, and boundless growth by measuring real world impact,

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which is what we're talking about today. So let's get

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a little bit into your your some of your the

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technicalities of what you created when you which I'm just

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gobsmacked by it, by the way, woman just just love it.

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So let's talk first about the idea of how you

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list five components of real world impact? What are those

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five five components?

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So first, as define the world impact if I could

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take it exactly at least, So, real world impact is

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every changed, result, difference, outcome, event, experience that occurs in

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people's lives. Ask it they have received the promised benefits

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of a product or service. So the real question here

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is when somebody uses your product or you know, engages

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in your services, they get the benefits you promise them.

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people say I want to change people's lives, but we

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don't know what that means. Yep, now we can measure

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it all right, So it starts with lower metrics. So

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the question becomes what are the five components of real

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world impact? The first is life areas. These are different

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parts of people's lives that can be impacted directly or

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indirectly by your product or service, and there are a

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bunch of them. There's dozens of different things that people

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call a life area, work, home, financials, right, So those

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are life areas. Now we look into how can life

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areas be affected? The first is initial impact and this

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sounds very science y, but it's really not. This is

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the first thing that happens esther, someone has received your benefits.

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that you planned for, and it happened. Now, whatever the

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next thing happens to them, that's what we call initial impact.

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So it's the first time somebody gets more than what

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you promised. We could stop right there and billions and

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billions of dollars would increase just with that. But now

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let's talk about more because of what we really want

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is to make sure that we make a difference and

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we can measure it, and we can prove it, and

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we can help our employees feel good about what they

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do and help our clients and patients and beneficiaries really

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benefit from this. We need to show them how we

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really changed their life. So the next pieces are impact ripples.

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Classic pebble in the pond metaphor, right, throw a pebble

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into a pond and it creates ripples. The ripples are

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different depending on which pebble you put into the pond.

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So everyone who is listening to at least's show right

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this second, you've got to know that you have a

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unique pebble, and when you throw that pebble into your customer, patients,

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or beneficiaries pond, unique ripples will appear. What that means

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is measurable changes, difference, events, experiences, outcomes, results will occur

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that you can measure all. Right after impact ripples, the

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question becomes for each impact ripple is it important to them?

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Does it have any significance? And if so, how much significance.

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All of those years studying at Duke and everywhere else,

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trying to learn how to do research and not want

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me to do it and just wanting to go be

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on Broadway all led me to understand that we can

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really measure this stuff. It blew me away. So we

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measure the extent to which people find importance in the

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difference is that they're getting as the result of your products,

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and not just that, but are those differences now rippling

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to other people in their lives? In other words, does

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your impact create an impact on your customer, patient, your

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beneficiary and does that impact end up rippling to other

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people you'll never meet the next piece of it is

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impact causality. And as a research and neared this is

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my favorite. What we're really doing here is we are

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proving was it your product or service or wasn't it

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just because they think it was. Now we need to

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bring in all the great statistical research pieces that fall

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in that tell us, you know what, it's connected to you,

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but you didn't cause it, or you know what you

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did this, you did this, be proud of it, own it,

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measure it more so. The five components again life areas impact, impact, ripples, impact, importance.

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I love it when you talk like that, Wendy. It's

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exciting all of this good sciencey stuff that really makes

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this stuff, that takes it from something abstract and sounds

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woo woo whatever and really brings it home. So to

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that in let's talk about how you You mentioned at

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least three ways that I could think of in your

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courses is the analog way of doing it, which is

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what your case study in the book did, which we'll

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talk about later, the digital and of course your app.

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because we were like, how do I get this data?

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You know that right now, this is like my most

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most favorite Crestlin. I just just to be clear, all right,

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I will try not to nerd out too much. So

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so first of all, I am excited that since you've

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read this, this is now a patent pending system and

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patent pending engine and a patent pending interface.

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Impact Metrics, and it's comprised with more than one hundred

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mathematical formulas that measure and analyze all of the five

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world real world impact pieces, but also a lot of

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other variables come into play, depending on what kind of

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product you have, what you're using, what you're doing, your demographics,

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all of the things that you're already measuring in your

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marketing research. One of my dear clients said to me,

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when you just created the sexiest marketing marketing research piece ever.

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So everything that you read what matters matter's most tells

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you exactly what to measure. The question is how do

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you measure it, how do you put it together, and

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how can you do it? And this was the biggest

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piece of lease This is This is where digital, analog

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and app all come together. How do we make you

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were that we can make this happen for organizations without

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any work, for their leaders or their employees, so that

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they can get the information they need and apply it

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without any work at all and only five minutes a week.

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And that's where the APP comes in.

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It's brilliant. You take away all the objections. So this

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is going to be too unwildy, I don't have enough people,

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not enough time. Right, it's brilliant. So then we go on.

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We have to talk about the journey of impact. I

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just think that is such a beautiful thing here, So

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let's bring that to life for our listeners and viewers.

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You bet so. I have always spoken about the journey

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of impact, that we are all born to make an

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impact in people's lives, and that life's greatest journey is

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discovering what our unique impact is going to be and

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making it happen before it's too late. And that's what

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we're seeing in employees day after day after day with disengagement.

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What is my impact? How can I make it happen?

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And I still want to have a life. The journey

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of impact APP is now the measuring tool that allows

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you to capture, measure, analyze, and report these impact ripples

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that come from your market, customers, beneficiaries, patients. So now

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my lovely, wonderful Journey of Impact that I've loved for

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forty years is now a simple game that your customers

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play and they get rewarded and they have fun, and

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in the middle of playing the game, you're getting all

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the real world impact metrics in the back dashboard, which

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is really magical.

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it's obviously you're patent pending. It's just genius.

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So what I want to do next is as much

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as we can because I think there's so much goodness here.

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This is going to be so exciting for our listeners

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and viewers here, Wendy, I want to just talk about

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some of the steps that you talk about here for

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using real world impact metrics to increase revenue. And because

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it's otherwise it might sound just overwhelming to people, you

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do you do list five steps for that part of things.

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So can we start with those?

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If I can remember when I wrote I thought I'm.

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Here with me as well, don't worry. The first is

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educate your team right exactly.

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So there's an easy way in a hard way. The

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easy way with you know, a shameless plug is get

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what matters matters most and give a copy to everybody

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in your company. And there's little little things that you

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can do, little impact challenges you can do, like for

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five minutes every week to get them on board with this,

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and then you don't have to do anything. That's the

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easy way. The other piece is to just excite people

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about being able to prove once and for all the

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difference they're making in people's lives, to be able to

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actually prove it, to actually have a piece of paper

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that you can take home to your family, that you

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can send out to your friends on social so it says,

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look what I did, and that's what this is all about.

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That's what educating them is about. Step two is about

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providing the real world impact metrics tool. Whether it's you know,

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a long way out right which is doing it yourself

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kind of thing, it works. It just takes time and effort,

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which nobody has anymore, or you just you know, hop

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on the website and get the subscription to the app

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and you're done. But either way you're getting proof to

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your employees and to your customer's patients or beneficiaries, and

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that is so crucial in today's issues, which we can

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discuss if you want to. The next step is to

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share weekly reports. Make sure that everyone has what I

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call an impact fest, which is five minutes where everybody

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stops what they're doing, goes online, looks up at their screens,

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and sees every single thing that happened that week in

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your customer's lives that they did, that they're saying they

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never would have done it if it hadn't been for

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your product and service, and watch how their life change

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is week after week after week. Celebrate it all, make

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your choices, let us know it's true, and then go

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back to look. So that's your five minute impact fest.

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Yes, okay, so before you go on, I want to

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make sure that listeners and viewers don't understand this. And

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that's and that third step you really make a point

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to make sure that you're pointing out that to ensure

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that all stakeholders have that front row seat and can

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see those metrics and those reports. And I think that's critical.

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Whether those are customers, investors, maybe they're partners, maybe they're

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even suppliers, you know, because part of what I do too, Wendy,

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is to be able to help bring stakeholders together around

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an organization's purpose. You know, we do it around the

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impact that's even deeper. So you've got to make sure

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and emphasize.

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That, thank you for that. That's great.

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Yeah yeah yeah, So okay, so then of course you're talking. Okay,

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so you went through each of them, I believe.

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So step forward is to empower them to encourage customers

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or patients or or stakeholders to go ahead and follow up,

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keep doing their real world impact metrics, keep sending it

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out there, keep making sure that everybody is capturing the

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impact that's happening, which is easy to do with simple emails.

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Then step five is the snapshots. At least, we're not

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seeing you visually at the moment, so I'm going to

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just keep talking. So the in the app itself, there

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taken by the users, by the customers and the patients

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and the beneficiaries every single day they make these snapshots.

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It's not of them, it's of their journey of impact.

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And of course it's branded to the organization. So we

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really want to make sure that your organization gets seen

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and so that we know all of the changes that

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are happening and the people you serve are real and

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we have proof of it. And that's a very important piece.

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And I think at this point this is when at

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least would normally take a break. Should I keep talking

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or are you going to take a break? Now? I

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have no idea. Okay, we don't want any black air,

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So I will keep talking for you guys until the

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least can come back. So the next piece in the

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puzzle is a really important piece, and that is understanding

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how much you can serve your stakeholders by getting this information.

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And it's laid out with a bunch of formulas that

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are different than real world impact metrics. These are the

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proven formulas that I use with my clients, and now

471
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:40.759
I'm making that accessible. There she is, she's okay, good.

472
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.960
Well, it's amazing what you have to do to kind

473
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.839
of convince this to work somehow. Okay, okay, good, all right,

474
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:48.000
you can see me, but I can't see you.

475
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.799
Here we go. Okay, you need to turn your phone

476
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.599
just a bit because you're like that.

477
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.079
That's where it was. Okay, I'm glad you can hear me.

478
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.640
I can't see you guys anymore, but that's that doesn't matter.

479
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.799
Thank you, I've heard I heard you soldiering on Wendy.

480
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:04.400
We are going to deliver this great information because it's

481
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.400
just too good, not too thank you so much. Okay,

482
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:11.799
so you got through step five. Yeah, yeah, okay, you

483
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.279
are the past. This is so exciting. Okay, So I

484
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.119
think what I want to do really quick here, so

485
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.319
I want to make sure that those those steps are

486
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.599
good and solid. But before we do anything else, I

487
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:24.599
would love it if you could just say a little

488
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.680
bit more about how this app works. So I presume

489
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:32.960
that everybody in an organization, the customers, the employees, other stakeholders, leaders,

490
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.039
have the capacity to log in, yes.

491
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.480
To log in on their side. Yes. So to be clear,

492
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.480
there's two different sides of this app. One is the

493
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:49.000
game side. Those are for your customer's patients, beneficiaries. They

494
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:50.880
get to play the game every day. They just play

495
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.720
the game, that's it. The slip side is what we

496
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:59.799
call the dynamic dashboard. This dashboard is for you to

497
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.960
seek out on so it's every single possible analytic that

498
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.839
you can think of. If you went anywhere near a

499
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.920
sociologist or social scientists in your career, you know what

500
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.160
I'm talking about. But basically, it's just a bunch of

501
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:17.519
little boxes. It's very colorful that tell you what's happening

502
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.200
on the game side, and you can push buttons to

503
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.759
create your own analysis. And it's so easy. You don't

504
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.000
have to understand the analyzes. You just push a button.

505
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.480
I want to know if this is a cause or

506
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.480
an effect. I want to know if this is a

507
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.559
cause or a connection. I want to know if this

508
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.680
is connected in any way to that, show me a

509
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:37.599
picture and then you get a gorgeous picture that tells

510
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.039
you what it does. So that's the back end and

511
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:43.920
the front end, and the two shall never meet. The

512
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:45.799
employees get to see the game, but they don't get

513
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:46.240
to play it.

514
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.720
Okay, this is brilliant woman. You are just genius. I'll

515
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.000
definitely want to separately play more with that with you.

516
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.480
But let's go ahead and take our last break here. Okay,

517
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.839
I'm Alice Cortez, your host. We've been on the air

518
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.480
with When de Lipton. Dib Nurse's the president, founder and

519
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.200
CEO of Professional Impact, Inc. And the developer of organizational

520
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.880
impact strategy and the inventor of real world impact metrics

521
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.720
and the creator of the Companion app. She has helped

522
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:17.680
thousands of enterprise, healthcare, small business and nonprofit leaders increase

523
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.279
team effectiveness and revenue as the direct result of making

524
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.000
a measurable difference in people's lives. We've been talking a

525
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.720
bit about just how important it is to be able

526
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.319
to demonstrate real world impact and proof, but also now

527
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.279
we're getting into how can we actually measure that and

528
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.079
showcase that and play with it. After the break, I

529
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.799
really want to get nitty gritty to help you, as

530
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.960
leaders and organizations, help you understand how you can start

531
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to enroll your employees in their first unique impact shortcut

532
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.079
for themselves. We'll be right back.

533
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.119
Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing in meaning

534
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.000
and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author, she helps companies

535
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.880
visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

536
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.920
leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and

537
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.200
commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite

538
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.960
a lease to speak to your organization, please visit her

539
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:28.279
at Elisecortes dot com. Let's Talk about how to get

540
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:37.079
your employees working on purpose. This is working on Purpose

541
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.480
with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our program today or

542
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.279
to open a conversation with Elise, send an email to

543
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:48.720
Alise A. L Se at Elisecortes dot com. Now back

544
00:30:48.759 --> 00:31:07.759
to working on purpose, she is, she's back.

545
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.799
Oh, we are persistent. If nothing else, my dear, nothing else,

546
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.720
we are persistent. Okay, at least Cortez back here, joining

547
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.960
here with Wendy Lipton Dibner. Thanks for your patients, ladies,

548
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:19.880
and Jen says We've worked through technology, but we are

549
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.720
determined to bring this to you. So for this last

550
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.720
segment here, Wendy, I wanted to go into as much

551
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.920
detail as we could here. You have several steps looks

552
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.519
like ten different steps that you can give to leaders

553
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.400
to be able to start to use this stuff first

554
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.279
in their teams. And so now we've given that high

555
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.880
level impact of just how beautiful and how radically different

556
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.759
their their organizations can be. Now let's take it to

557
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.559
the team level here, and you have a steps and

558
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:47.960
I've got them out here for you as well, but

559
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.519
I'd love to call them out here. So this, ladies

560
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:52.799
and gentlemen, imagine that you. This is a brand new concept.

561
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.000
Your team knows nothing about this the idea of how

562
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.759
to measure impact. So now what Wendy has done here

563
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.640
is she's created a process for you to be able

564
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.000
to bring your team together. So step one is to

565
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:06.119
call a meeting with your smaller large group of employees

566
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.920
personally or virtually, so you're introducing the concept that's.

567
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.160
True for one second before yeah for sure, Yeah, thanks,

568
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.799
Because this is actually a separate formula that I've actually

569
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:21.799
been using for about three decades, and I brought it

570
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.880
into the book because one of the things that people

571
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:30.160
want to know is what is my unique impact? What

572
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.359
was I born to do in the world. And so

573
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.119
while while all of these real world impact metric systems

574
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.240
stuff help you to figure out the impact you make

575
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:43.119
through your work, the question is what impact can you

576
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.519
make in the world all the time, even not at work.

577
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.680
And so I call that unique impact. And your unique

578
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:58.160
impact is a combination of a bajillion ologies right every right, Biology, sociology, psychology,

579
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:04.240
neurology is all these ologies put together to measure, oh,

580
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.319
your brain works and who you are and what kind

581
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.359
of and in fact you were born to make. And

582
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.160
we add in all the experiences you've ever had, and

583
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.599
all the jobs you've ever had, and all that kind

584
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.880
of stuff. Now, I used to do that in charge

585
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.599
like a bajillion dollars to do it in order to

586
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.759
help individual people, usually leaders who really wanted to know.

587
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.440
And I thought, this is a waste of life. Everybody

588
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.200
should know how to do this. So there is a

589
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:32.279
simple twelve ten step piece that you can use. It's

590
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.200
in the book. But let me tell you what it does.

591
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:40.279
It shows you the one question that you need to

592
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.599
ask people. And if you make a list of one

593
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.039
hundred people that you've met, you don't even have to

594
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.400
know them well, and just ask them this one question

595
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.119
and then write it all down and then look at

596
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.240
it and then quick back to the book and say, okay,

597
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.640
how do I interpret this stuff? And you will discover

598
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:10.280
exactly what makes you special and unique and what magnificently

599
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.679
natural impact is that you do every single day without

600
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:15.920
even knowing you're doing it.

601
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.880
So just read the book. Well, I love that. And

602
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.280
what I loved about this, Wendy, is that to me,

603
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.000
it seems like a really good starting point to help

604
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.840
people understand what we mean by impact. So what you

605
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:27.599
then go on to say that after you get each

606
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.960
of your timmverers to do that, then bring them back

607
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.559
and have them share something that they got so and

608
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.039
then oftentimes it's probably going to touch their heart. So

609
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.960
there's usually going to be some tears with that as

610
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.119
people get present to that and they get to celebrate

611
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:41.679
each other. I love this for helping people understand what

612
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.679
they're bringing to the party. So I think that it's

613
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.679
really really powerful. And whatever you charge before, I can

614
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.800
see why people bought it. I think it's really really powerful.

615
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.880
And if you to me, if you anchored this whole initiative,

616
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.519
starting with that individual unique impact to me, I think

617
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.360
this would be so so powerful.

618
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.559
You know, one of the things it does that is

619
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.960
so important, Lias, and you're bringing this up for a

620
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.760
really important reason. One of the biggest complaints that Gallup

621
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.320
shows is that, you know, employees feel like their leaders

622
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:16.159
don't recognize them, don't see them, don't know that they

623
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.920
matter or care as long as they get their work done.

624
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.360
And one of the things that we've seen a lot

625
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.239
in our work is the same thing. I'm sure you've

626
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.440
seen it when you've gone into you know, they do

627
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:27.519
they do their job but they don't really believe their

628
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.559
boss knows them or cares about them or knows them.

629
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.159
And that may or may not be true, but it's

630
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.079
the perception. And one of the most magical things about

631
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:40.400
doing the Unique Impact exercise is that all of a sudden,

632
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.719
the employees realize, oh my gosh, this person really cares

633
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.320
about me, like is interested in me and really thinks

634
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.519
I'm unique And what a concept? And how am I

635
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:53.599
ever going to live up to it?

636
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:53.760
Well?

637
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:55.599
I need to live up to this now. And it's

638
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.079
a whole different level of engagement to that point when

639
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:04.280
somebody looks right at you and seeds that you're special

640
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:05.719
something else.

641
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.039
Well, I also think what I love about what you

642
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:09.719
created there, Wendy, And I know that you've you know,

643
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:11.679
you've been doing this for a long time. But but

644
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.719
it also it allows you to be able to embrace

645
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.519
that a lot of people don't get the opportunity to

646
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.000
embrace what makes them really special and unique. So that

647
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.519
is a beautiful starting point. And then to have somebody

648
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:26.320
else see that so so so powerful. So I know

649
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.079
the power that I know you too, So I had

650
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.239
to I had to situate that.

651
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:31.599
Okay, So I did a couple.

652
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.639
More things we have to cover before I let you go.

653
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.079
I want to talk about this is even more lovely

654
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.480
and geeky. Right when you talk about those five steps

655
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:44.480
to custom customize and calculate impact rewards. Man, there's all

656
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:48.239
kinds of levels there that really are Anybody that's in marketing,

657
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.480
who's in you know, who's in the financial suite, is

658
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.519
going to love this stuff. Can you touch on those?

659
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.639
Suret? So to be clear, so everybody knows the one

660
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.039
of the things that you know very well at least

661
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:03.960
is that bonuses. You know, employees want their bonuses and

662
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.400
their rewards and their prizes, except that those things last

663
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.599
for you know, a hot minute, and then they're back

664
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.840
to the way they were. It just doesn't last. And

665
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.719
so what this does is it creates a system that

666
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.440
is easily calculated where we show the bonuses that people

667
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.400
get financial bonuses as well as prizes for the impact

668
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:32.199
that they were a part of bringing. And so in

669
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.159
other words, we call it impact rewards. And it's based

670
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.280
entirely not on how many hours you showed up or

671
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.639
how many absentees record, you know, none of that stuff.

672
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.840
I'm not saying you shouldn't do that but I am

673
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.679
saying this is an extra bonus that CFOs first say

674
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.360
oh no, no, no, no, and then they look at

675
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.800
how it works and they say we should do this. Basically,

676
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.440
you take your real world impact metrics, which, after all,

677
00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.440
a metric is a number, right, So you have a

678
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:03.679
lot of numbers that proved your real world impact, and

679
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.480
then you spread that out in a formula that says,

680
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.000
how will we weight each of the five components of

681
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.960
real world impact? How will we weight the number of

682
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.079
customers that did this? How will we calculate the quantity

683
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:23.000
and quality of every single impact we made over the

684
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.239
last sixty to ninety days and turn that into a

685
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.159
cash reward that we call impact awards. And so now

686
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:34.960
the employees know, every month, every two months, no more

687
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.119
than every quarter, in my recommendation, that we are now

688
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.199
going to reward you for every single piece of impact

689
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.960
that you infused into your unique position in this organization.

690
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:52.519
And you will be paid because of the unique impact

691
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:56.199
that you put into that and we can prove it metrically.

692
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:02.800
Oh that's so cool, woman, I'm telling you I know

693
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.159
each other at least, how have we never met? I

694
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.920
don't know, But now you can never get away from me.

695
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.360
Okay, you're stuck with me, girl. That's it, just saying

696
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:11.880
publicly admitted. Let's go.

697
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.280
Yeah, it's on air, it's on record. Okay, so this

698
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.440
is just stunning. Anything else you want to say about

699
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:22.159
the impact rewards more you could say, but anything else

700
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:23.360
that's important to say for now.

701
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.599
I think the most important piece of the bottom line

702
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:30.360
of impact awards is that when CFOs get it, when

703
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.440
they start to see the amount of money that gets

704
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:39.840
saved because the disengagement is now down or eliminated, because

705
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:43.280
people are working harder, because they're excited to see what

706
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.840
they can do with their impact. When when they look

707
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.000
at the numbers and they start to see how the

708
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:53.119
costs are going down and the revenue is going up,

709
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.599
it's a no brainer to install impact awards in every organization.

710
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Beautiful, Okay. Now the next thing we have to do

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is we have to.

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Let in, uh to the listeners viewers, just a little

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00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.400
bit of a fun surprise about your book that makes

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00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.920
it even more delightful they weren't already, And that is

715
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.880
that you nestle the whole darn thing Wendy into an

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actual story.

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And who doesn't love story? And of course that story

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includes pets. Who doesn't love pets. So let's just share

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00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.840
with our listeners and viewers how it is that you

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00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.320
I can't do justice to, you know, to Furry Hope

721
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:28.480
and in its in its cast of characters and the

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board members, et cetera. So introduce that story compelling.

723
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:34.159
Okay, but I won't tell all the details because no,

724
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:34.679
please don't.

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Yeah.

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00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:42.519
So, yes, this is this is a story. It's actually

727
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.519
real people, real clients. Their names have been protected to

728
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.199
protect the innocent kind of thing. But these are real

729
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.519
people and in this but the story itself is not true.

730
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So these real people serve on the board of directors

731
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:58.519
of a nonprofit in this story. Each of them come

732
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from a different industry, a different manufacturing, science, all of

733
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.119
these different places, medicine, and they all serve on one

734
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.760
board of an organization, a nonprofit organization that we've called

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00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:16.480
Furry Hope. And Furry Hope is basically a shelter and

736
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.400
rescue center where dogs and cats and anything furry that

737
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.800
have been lost or wounded or have nowhere to go

738
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.039
get to live in Furry Hope. And these people who

739
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.199
serve on the board start the story by talking about

740
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.039
how really really stressed they are because in each of

741
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:41.559
their organizations, their employees are making them crazy. And of

742
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:46.239
course it's all the employees fault, right. And the woman

743
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.159
who is the director and founder of Furry Hope, her

744
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:53.199
name is Amy, and Amy is just wonderful and I

745
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:56.039
just love her to dat And she is the one

746
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.559
who introduces the board of directors to so one that

747
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:05.000
they need to know. And this someone walks them step

748
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.920
by step to understand how to recognize and make and

749
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.639
measure and capture and report real world impact so that

750
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.840
their employees will become more engaged, more loyal and have

751
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.159
boundless growth. So the people in the story learn it

752
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.639
while serving on the board a Furry Hope, and all

753
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:33.400
of these little things happen along the way that makes

754
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:37.599
me laugh, makes me cry. I was crying while I

755
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:41.400
wrote it. I cried it every time I edited it.

756
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.679
I love these people and I love them in real life,

757
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.280
and I love them in the book, and I hope

758
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:49.199
you do too. It's a great story.

759
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:54.280
It's exactly yeah, it is a great story. Just I love,

760
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.360
of course Bob and Ripples. I mean, gosh, it's just

761
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.280
so amazing. So listeners and viewers. I mean, this is

762
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.079
such a great story about that, really, and what is

763
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.840
beautiful about it is she's nestled in as like the

764
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.679
backbone of the book to hold all these concepts together

765
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:13.119
and illustrate them for you, and you do really get

766
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.000
into the story. It's so so beautiful. I just was

767
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.039
amazed that you could also write that story the way

768
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:19.719
that you did. And I love the fact that you

769
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.880
are the impact lady on the other end of the

770
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.440
conference mic that nobody sees and you just hang up

771
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.400
when you're done saying whatever is you need to say.

772
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.239
I'm much nicer like that in the real world.

773
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.320
It was just delightful. So I want to give you

774
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.480
the chance. I know you said this is a compilation

775
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:44.320
of various clients, etc. And such, But we have about say,

776
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.119
three minutes left on the whole entire show. Is there

777
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.800
another sort of real world example or something like a

778
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.559
case study element that you want to illustrate or share

779
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.360
that also shows just how this stuff works in real

780
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.159
life story So, before it.

781
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:02.159
Was digital, it was analogue, and in analog, which was

782
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.719
the vast majority of my career, right, it was me

783
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:11.159
helping people measure things the old fashioned way. Surveys, interviews,

784
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:14.639
doing all of these things to get to know their patients.

785
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.800
But it was always about making the employees know the

786
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.360
impact that they're having with people. At the same time,

787
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.440
it was teaching languaging. So in my early days I

788
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:31.599
would sell sales and leadership training because if I said

789
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.079
I was going to teach them about impact, they would

790
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.960
laugh at me. Don't forget a woman in business, right,

791
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.719
So it needed to be hard stuff. So they would

792
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.360
hire me for sales and leadership and under the table

793
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.239
without them knowing it was happening, I was teaching them

794
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.119
how to make a bigger impact, how to make a

795
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.800
bigger difference. And to be clear, you guys, we use

796
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:56.199
impact so much. Let's just quickly define it. It's the

797
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.239
measurable difference we make in people's lives as the direct

798
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.400
result of con with you, your team, your products, and

799
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.280
your services and your marketing. If you're using the word

800
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.880
impact and you're not measuring it, then you can't really

801
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:09.840
say it's impact.

802
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.960
I love that when you completely agree, Okay, well we've

803
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.679
done it. We've managed even with all these technical difficulties,

804
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.480
your patients, my persistence to be able to go through

805
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.079
almost a whole hour here. You know, the shows listening

806
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.440
by people around the world that either are trying to

807
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.800
become better versus of themselves as individuals, as leaders, They're

808
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.559
trying to learn something about creating a better culture, They're

809
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.760
trying to improve the experience of work for themselves or

810
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:34.840
their team. What would you like to leave them with?

811
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:41.039
All right, so first understand this, Everything you do and

812
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.880
everything you don't do has an impact on someone else.

813
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.440
Pebble in the pond, You are the pebble in the

814
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.840
pond of every life you touch. Never underestimate the power

815
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.880
of your impact, and always remember, always remember what matters

816
00:45:58.440 --> 00:45:59.039
matters most.

817
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.239
Wendy, you're such a jump Okay, listeners and viewers, you

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00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.719
are going to want to follow this woman's day in

819
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.880
touch at this one woman learn more about her, so

820
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.679
I highly highly recommend that you go check her out.

821
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.280
You can find her on LinkedIn. You can also find

822
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.599
information about her organization, Professional Impact, Inc. Or book What

823
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.639
Matters Matters Most. A couple of websites that you could

824
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:25.000
use to go to. One is called professional Impact dot com.

825
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.440
You could also go to her book website, which is

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00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.199
what Matters Matters Most dot Com. Either one of those

827
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:33.000
will get you there. Highly recommend you check that out.

828
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.280
Can they find you're out there as well? Wendy, Actually,

829
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.719
we have its own little website. Yes, prove your impact

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00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.079
dot com, whovirimpact dot com. Okay, greatness. Last week, if

831
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:45.719
you missed the live show, you can always catch if

832
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.800
you recorded podcast or if you get your podcast. We

833
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:51.679
were on area with a beautiful African women women duel

834
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.559
of Funki, Michaels and abs Ning. We talked about their

835
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.760
book Modern Leadership, Inspired by Mother Nature. The book is

836
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:00.639
one part a call for women meant to help and

837
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.000
support and champion one another across life, and one part

838
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.760
of delightful deep dive into how ten different animals can

839
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.480
give us insight into being better leaders, starting with the

840
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.719
humble bee, the and the owl, the octopus, just to

841
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.159
name a few. It was a very first take on

842
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.880
how we humans can be enlarged and more effective by

843
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.719
immersing ourselves in the wisdom of nature. Next week, we'll

844
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.320
be on the air with Forbes Council a fellow Forbes

845
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.239
Council member Carlos Hoyas from Brazil, talking about the work

846
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:33.320
he does around the world coaching executives and helping companies

847
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.559
build better teams. So then remember work as one of

848
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.239
the best adventures and means of realizing our potential and

849
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.599
making the impact we crave. That can give us the

850
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:43.719
opportunity to do business in a way that betters the world.

851
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.320
So let's work on Purpose.

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00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.280
We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

853
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:54.960
tune into Working on Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,

854
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.320
each week on W four C. Why Together We'll create

855
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.000
a world where business operates con tchentiously. Leadership inspires and

856
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.480
passion performance and employees are fulfilled in work that provides

857
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.639
the meaning and purpose they crave. See you there, Let's

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work on Purpose.