Sept. 17, 2024

The Power of a Durable Mind: Thriving Through Life’s Toughest Challenges

The Power of a Durable Mind: Thriving Through Life’s Toughest Challenges

Garen Stoehr has long understood the critical link between mental resilience and peak performance, helping athletes connect their mental and physical game. But when life hit him with the unexpected challenge of a Leukemia diagnosis in 2019, he...

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Garen Stoehr has long understood the critical link between mental resilience and peak performance, helping athletes connect their mental and physical game. But when life hit him with the unexpected challenge of a Leukemia diagnosis in 2019, he discovered a new depth of mental strength. Rather than just surviving, Garen made the choice to thrive. We dive into Garen’s journey and explore how cultivating a durable mindset can empower us to rise above life’s toughest obstacles and come out stronger.

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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose program, which has

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a young age, he was captivated by AHA and light

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bulb moments, those pivotal experiences, that experiences that connect passion

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with potential. This personal fascination evolved into a greater mission,

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leading him to co found Durable, where he helps athletes

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bridge their mental and physical performance, creating synergy between the two.

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Over time, he expanded his expertise to focus on leadership,

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learning and development, applying his extensive skills and knowledge to

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elevate both individuals and teams. We'll be talking about his

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remarkable journey and what he's pouring himself into today. He

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joins his day from Saint Paul, Minnesota. Garon, Welcome to

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Working on Purpose.

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Thank you, Thank you for having me.

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It's so good to have you.

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And I want to give a shout out to Chief

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Danny Barton who brought us together. He's been a friend

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of mine for a few years and when he mentioned

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you and what you're up to, I was like, yep,

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I got to have him on. So thanks for being game.

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Thank you.

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Well, let's start with this wonderful thing that makes you

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really unique, Garon, and that is this fascination that you

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had with the aha or light bulb moments. And I

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love how you connect the potential that they have for

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passion and potential. So where did that come from and

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why is that so important to you?

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I think for me, really early my ultimate mentors you know,

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my father and my parents, And I know that sounds cliche,

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is but I was able to really learn from them

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profoundly at a very early age.

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And it was the.

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Connecting dots and I found myself going, oh, that totally

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makes sense. And every time I had that, it was

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just this massive understanding, and later in life it became

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kind of the link of knowledge, skills and abilities to wisdom.

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And that just it just started at a very early age.

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Well, that's amazing that you've carried that through and then

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really speaks to what I talk about, Gary one. I'm

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talking about the gift of purpose, which is that that

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lens that only you can see in the world, and

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with and through that you have the capacity to make

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a contribution that all of us grave that really matter

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and make a difference. And that's what I hear when

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you share that really remarkable perspective you got so early

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in life.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, so welcome.

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So since we did talk about purpose, and the show

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is called Working on Purpose, we have to talk about yours.

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So I understand your purpose is illuminating pathways that bridge

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individuals or groups to their potential and then yeah, to

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their potential. So tell us more about that. How did

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you when did you when did you get present that

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that's your that's your purpose, and how do you how

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do you live that?

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I think I've had it early and I didn't realize it. Yeah,

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I think the right the acknowledgement of it came. You know,

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I've had some opportunity to pre and during that in

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my lifetime, my tenure with Lifetime and teaching leaders around

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the country on a monthly basis, and found that I

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was recognizing as a facilitator, was recognizing those moments for

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early leaders, people who were really wanting to get into it,

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making a commitment to getting into leadership, and then being

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in front of them and teaching.

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Some of the basics.

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For me, it's always been about that next step.

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For them that creates those moments.

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I think as we as we get hire and hire,

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there are executive coaches that do a fantastic job working

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in the c suite.

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That's not me.

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For me, it's it's an earlier intervention. And really with

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my company Durable Minds and Athletes, that was truly apparent

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in starting to work with athletes set as early as

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early experiences were happening sooner and sooner in the athletic community,

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specialization was happening with athletes early. There wasn't anything that

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really bridged that maturity at an earlier age that they

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needed in.

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Order to perform.

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So it's actually durable minds came out of of really

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a little bit of a frustration, right, is that frustration

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that fueled the purpose of doing what myself and my

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business partner had set out to do.

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Amazing.

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So you were talking about some of your work there

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at Lifetime Fitness as an organization. I happen to be

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a member of Lifetime Fitness. I love the organization. It's fantastic.

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But let's go back a little bit further here, because

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I do know that your you study and have a

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degree in sports medicine, and of course your early life

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was of course in fitness.

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Why that area? Why Why not you know architecture, art?

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Why fitness?

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Well, it's it's funny you asked that.

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I have a lot of interests and when when I

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was determining what school.

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To go to, my options were.

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I was looking at and accepted to Norwich Military Academy

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in in Vermont. I get accepted at University of Maine

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Orno for Forestreet because.

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One of my options too, I'm a big nature buff.

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I love nature.

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I find my grounding in nature, and so that was

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a way to be.

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Involved in that.

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And then my third one was my passion for sports

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and athletics. Is was there a way to when push

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comes to shove and the time comes where I had

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to hang up the cleetes or the equipment, what's my

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option to still stay connected? And then once I visited

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those institutions, I really fell in love with the curriculum

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and the sports medicine end of things and really quickly

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allowed me to make my decision.

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Awesome. I love it when that happens early.

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It was a long winding path for me, and I

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ignored what was whispering in me, which is really the.

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Fold of psychology.

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I found my way back to it eventually, but I

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admire when people just kind of get that early.

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Well it wasn't without question right when you get into

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the mix, but you know, I found my mother was

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instrumental in that because initially she had said, you know,

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if you if you open yourself up and you really

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look below the surface, you'll find the true nature of

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your calling and.

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What you want to do. But you have to be

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open to it.

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And when I arrived in campus at that that first

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time in campus, I.

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Very quickly found.

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Eleven to twelve of my closest friends that I'm still

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in touch with today and we communicate on a monthly basis.

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And all of those combined solidified that experience. So I

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not I didn't once think about transferring to another institution

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to get a better experience.

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I found everything that I needed at the Keen State campus.

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That's amazing.

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Well, you've been your parents a couple of times now,

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your mother just in this last bed, and then of

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course your parents before, and I was really really interested

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to learn about your background. That you grew up in

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a home where your parents took an at risk youth,

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and I'm interested in learning about that. How did those

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experiences those years shape you? What did you learn from

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those experiences?

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Well, it happened. It happened so early.

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It actually they were committed to that before my sister

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and I were born, and it happened really early, and

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so it's all we knew. To be honest with you,

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and different people came to our lives. When I say

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at risk, I needed to define that a little bit.

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There was addiction, there was bullying, There was individuals who

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were estranged from their family, and my father was doing

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work with them at the time, and as an ultimate

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really an ultimate professional, we never knew the details of it.

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We just simply knew that we could provide a home

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and it became another family member and.

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Reality.

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And as he did that, and as we gained trust

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for those individuals and we got older and older, we

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started to understand a little bit more about those individuals

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who were joining our family because we were mature enough,

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started to become mature enough to open that up.

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But it was difficult. I'll give you an example. This

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is an extreme, but it's it's a tough one. My mother.

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At the time had left us and with we'll call

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them John to honor, to honor that confidentiality. But John

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lived with us, and.

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We were young. I was seven, my sister was nine,

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she's two years older than me. And my mother went

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to go.

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Get groceries and go shopping, and John at the time

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was an addict and was really working hard on that.

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She took off.

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My dad, I think was at a meeting at the time,

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but it was early and so we were watching cartoons

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and little Bugs Bunny and Tom and Jerry and snuggling

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up and he was a family member and it was fantastic. Well,

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he had gotten up and removed himself from the couch,

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unbeknownst to us, he went and was getting high, and

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that was one of the expectations in the household that

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that just didn't happen, and.

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drug was heroin heroin in speed and came.

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We thought he had gone to the bathroom and went

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and put his hands up on the back of the

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couch and took two pillows and pushed them down onto

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my sister and I, oh, my gosh, doesn't recall that,

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but it was very clear to me as we you know,

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were recently. We're talking about it, actually talked about it

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a couple of times, and during that time then it

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felt different than rough housing.

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I remember.

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I still have the memory today about it. My mother

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came home right at the right time and walked in

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the door to say hi and see how we're doing,

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saw what was happening, and dropped her groceries. But luckily

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she had the hindsight to know that the situation wasn't right,

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so she yelled and said, you know, John, what are

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you doing and put the pillows back up.

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Fidgety and put the pillows back up and said nothing, nothing.

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At all, And she went in and grabbed us and

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pulled us out and told him to get out of

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the house. And at that time, as my sister and

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I were talking, she goes, it makes so much sense

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that Mom and always said during that timeframe of our

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life that that was about the closest that they came

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to set rating because of that conflict and wanting to

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help an individual but realizing made a CROSSSS threshold in

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the boundaries, and my father was adamant about not letting

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this opportunity go. So it caused a lot of tension,

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and of course they protected us from that. But as

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he was leaving the door and slammed the door on

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the way out, I remember that it just didn't feel right.

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I didn't know what it was at the time, and

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it didn't feel right. And so what my parents.

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Were extremely skilled at was.

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Educating us at the appropriate level of our age, and

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that became a norm, and we had different situations and

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that's a really tough experience and.

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That didn't have a great outcome, but we.

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Had so many success stories of those individuals living with

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us that to this day are just extremely tight family members.

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But it intrinsically cemented this awareness for empathy and compassion

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that we just saw on a daily basis, and there

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were such great examples of that.

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That's amazing.

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I obviously was not didn't expect you to tell the

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story that you told. Hands that look on my face,

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but thank you for sharing such a real story. These

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are the moments of life. These are the things that

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you know we greatly impress upon as something and so

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I really appreciate that you went there. On this note,

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let's go ahead and grab our first break here, Garan,

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it happens and it goes by so fast. I'm your host,

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Doctor Earle's Cortez. We were on the York Gharren Store,

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the co founder of Durable Minds, where they focus on leadership,

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of life that influenced who he is today. After the work,

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that individuals or groups to their potential. So I have

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been very intrigued and did a little bit of research

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on leukemia, but I want to understand your experience. I

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found it pretty fascinating that it was twenty nineteen, so

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just five years ago when you learned you had leukemia,

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at about the same time, of course that you lost

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your mom. So let's hear a little bit about what

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was that like for you and why did you even

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how did you learn that you had LUKINI what what

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prompted if there was a test.

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Or well, I committed to not being a guy, and

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what I mean by that is like avoiding the doctors

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and the physicians and being consistent. I think in the

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health and fitness industry. You have to be the example, right,

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And so although there are times when I delayed and

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put it off, I got into a regiment of regularly

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yearly evaluations. And as I was going into my yearly,

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I had an amazing physician and had my blood work

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and everything was great and the quick conversation and got

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in the car and headed home, and immediately I got

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a call from her saying, we get blood work back

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and your white.

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Blood cell count is high. But she said, I'm I don't.

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Know, You're like extremely healthy and you know, so forth

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it just let's do it again. And I'm like, okay,

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that's fine. So we did it the next week and

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the same thing showed up. I got a call on

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my way home and she said, no, it's where it

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needs to be. And she said that I would love

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to have you looked at by a hematologist and oncologist.

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We need to look a little bit.

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Deeper into the blood work, and I don't want it

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to scare you, right, she did that disclaimer in there,

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but she said it will give us a really good

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information to allow us to move forward. And it's funny

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because I went home, right, I went home and I

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just said, yeah, I'm going to get referred to hematologists oncologist.

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And my wife had said, you seem.

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Pretty laid back about that, and I said, well, it's

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it's out of my control.

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It's it's not it's not I don't have enough information.

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I am an individual that tends not to react until

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I have information. I need to make an appropriate decision

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about anything, including how I'm going to react to that.

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And so I said, we'll see, We'll see how it goes.

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And a couple of weeks later I went in and

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met with them and had my blood work, and very.

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Quickly he was able to say you do you have

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you have CLL, which is.

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Chronic lymphocytic leukemia. And I said, okay, what does that mean?

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And he said, it's in your blood, it's in your bones.

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We'll probably need to get a bone marra biopsy from

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your pelvis and then evaluate it further, and then from

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there we'll monitor and we could go a year, we

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could go two years, three years without doing anything, without

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any type of treatment, but at some point there would

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be intervention.

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So it became the waiting game. I call it.

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I call it the purgatory right where every single time

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you go in. You're waiting for some sort of direction

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and when it's like, oh, your white blood cells are

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still rising, but we don't have anything there. That purgatory

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is is really where I truly learned, uh that your

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self talk can be extremely disruptive if you're not aware

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of it.

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A narrative that you create in the purgatory will can

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either fuel or dismiss any anything that you have going

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on in your body.

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So my my real quick commitment was just control.

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I can only control what I can control, and as

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we get information, we'll see what is next.

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And they were great in terms of educating me along

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the way, which which was which was wonderful, but.

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It became a couple of years of of monitoring. The

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hard part was is that that week, so I got

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diagnosed on a Monday, my sister had called me in

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the week and said, Mom isn't doing well.

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I know you were out here recently, but if you.

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I'm just telling you, if you don't come out now,

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you might miss your opportunity to say goodbye. And and

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so my wife said yet that there's not even an

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option like go and total support, which was amazing. I

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got out there on Friday and was able to be

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with her and had some some special moments there. But

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I wasn't my mother with her empathy. I didn't share

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with the family and I went out there. It wasn't

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my it wasn't a priority, and so I made a

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determination not to share. I didn't need my mother thinking

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about that as she was passing. I didn't need my

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sister as a caregiver, and certainly my dad being exhausted

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from being a caregiver as well.

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And so I withheld that information for a period of

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time and then and then brought it back to the

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table with the family.

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Wow, I really admire your strength and just your focus,

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and I can appreciate that that would that would definitely

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not be the time to share that news. I totally

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appreciate that, having lost both my parents have been there

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for my mother's passing. I really understand that and applaud

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that choice.

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What's treatment? Like, what are you doing for treatment?

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You know, it's interesting, I laughed, because I have had

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an extremely uneventful treatment except for day one. So day

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one for me of treatment and was on January eighth,

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As we all know the dates in which this stuff

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begins for us, right It was a two day treatment

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and the first day I went in and I received

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an ivy small iv it's called pre medicine, a small

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ivy of benadru made me a little tired, and then

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turned right around twenty minutes later and put a small

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bag of steroid which woke me up immediately right after that.

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And it was all preparation for obituzmab, which is a

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new drug infusion drug that I had taken. And then

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two weeks later I added a chemo medicine that I

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take at night, pills that I chemo pills that I

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take at night. But on that day one my wife

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was with me and I was sitting in there, and

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she looked at me and she said, your face is

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really red and I'm like, yeah, I know, it's warm.

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I'm a heater. You can't even lay next to me

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without you know, at night. It's just the way I am.

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And then she looked at me soon after that and said,

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your eyes are getting red and I'm like, really, I

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don't feel like they're singing at all. And the nurse

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had said, please let us know if there's anything different,

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so of course she did that, and then not thirty

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seconds after that I started my airway started to close

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and I felt it rising up and getting up into

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my neck and I was having trouble breathing. And then

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thirty seconds after that, at least I swear an archer

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was behind me and shot an arrow in my trap

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in my sacroom, just two spots in my body about

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the size.

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Of a quarter.

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There was excruciating pain, and when I say that, you're

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talking to an individual who's been hit by a car before.

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Like it was really hard to sit still. And usually

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I can work through discomfort. I worked through pain. I

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don't have to suffer, right, so I can breathe. But

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I couldn't breathe, so I got a little bit anxious,

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still under control, and the team came in really quickly,

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put a little shot into my IV line, and within

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five minutes I was back to normal. But to tell

474
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:25.240
you the impact of that, when I went in for

475
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.279
my first treatment, my white blood cell count A normal

476
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:32.599
count is forty five hundred to ten thousand. My count

477
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.079
was one hundred and thirty five thousand, which was the

478
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:37.960
reason I was starting treatment.

479
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:39.240
The next day.

480
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:42.400
And by the way I could just share this quickly,

481
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.400
I was at a twenty five milli liter drip, which

482
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.440
is like drip, go home, have dinner, come back drip.

483
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:49.839
There's just so much time in between.

484
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.960
It's a slow process, but I'm super glad they did

485
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:53.759
it that slowly.

486
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.440
But then they said, we'll see you in sixteen hours.

487
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.920
And then we'll start you at fifty mill leader drip

488
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.160
and go to four hundred. And I said, I just

489
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.799
turned into Jackjack from The Incredibles, and you're telling me

490
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.319
you're going to jump to a four hundred millileter.

491
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.680
So I was a little bit anxious in that situation.

492
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.839
Message to me was the body learned, the body learned,

493
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.160
so trust us, which I did. The next morning, I

494
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.279
went in and did blood work before my treatment, and

495
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.880
I had gone from one hundred and thirty five thousand

496
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:29.920
down to twelve hundred.

497
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:32.359
Wow, so amazing.

498
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:39.039
It eradicated every abnormal cell that I had at that time,

499
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:41.720
which a majority of was in my spleen. My spleen

500
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.640
had gone from eleven centimeters to twenty, which is the

501
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:45.960
reason we started treatment.

502
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.839
All of this without symptoms.

503
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.119
And so the next day I went in a little

504
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.440
bit anxious and then got into treatment. In the next

505
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.519
six hours, I was doing work I was on my

506
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.799
computer nothing and since then I haven't had anything.

507
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.160
And I'm gonna be honest with you.

508
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.440
That was difficult. The physical was difficult, right, But the

509
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:14.240
hardest part for me was I started to develop this

510
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:15.359
survivor's guilt.

511
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:20.119
So I was going into the clinic and.

512
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.720
People are covered in blankets with sockats on, trying to

513
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.799
stay warm, trying to sleep as they're hitting treatment. I

514
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.680
have another one and then behind another curtain who is

515
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:33.200
burning from the inside out.

516
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.920
Everybody's experience is so different. And here I.

517
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.559
Come hugging my nurses and how are you great? And

518
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:43.119
I said to them, I.

519
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:48.240
Said, I'm struggling with this because I'm not having the

520
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:53.039
same experience as they are. And she said, she's great.

521
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:58.400
She goes, you are what they need to see, right,

522
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:00.759
and so don't.

523
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.240
Not bring your energy and your your lights and all

524
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:04.519
of that.

525
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.359
And she goes, that's what they need to see because

526
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.799
that's what they're that's what they'll become, that's what they're

527
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:09.440
working towards.

528
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.079
Is just you know, you've.

529
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.200
Had a different experience and allowed you to get there sooner.

530
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.720
And that really helped me through that. Then then it

531
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.720
became I come to the clinic with purpose.

532
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:24.599
Is just a treatment, so amazing story. Now I want

533
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.480
to just make sure I understand. So if I didn't

534
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.519
follow in my g I'm guessing that my listeners and

535
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:29.359
viewers didn't either.

536
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.119
I didn't quite understand the pain that you were talking about.

537
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.279
What what? What was behind that? It was?

538
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.119
It was it was the treatment.

539
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.799
They were either spots in my body that were compromised somehow.

540
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:42.119
Oh okay, it.

541
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.039
Was on my sacred or a trap and that's where

542
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:44.640
I felt.

543
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.240
The pain those areas.

544
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:49.400
Okay, okay, it was a part of the medicine.

545
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.519
Got it, Okay, got it.

546
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.880
Well, Now of course I have to really understand just

547
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:55.880
given the work that I do, and then who I am.

548
00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:00.920
I want to understand what living with leukemia talking about

549
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.119
life and it's meaning.

550
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:10.319
Yeah, so I appreciate that. For me, it's as simple

551
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:17.000
as this. When you every decision that.

552
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:24.240
You make can either put you in durability or in drama.

553
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:24.880
And and.

554
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:31.039
I do not care to feed the beast. So for me,

555
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.079
you know, I would meet every couple of weeks with

556
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.720
my brother in law and we would meet at a

557
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.839
micro brewer and catch up on times and have a beer.

558
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.319
I went in and as soon as I found that

559
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.480
my platelets had dropped a little bit, I'm like, okay,

560
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:46.119
what does that mean?

561
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:47.000
What's involved in that?

562
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.279
And like it could be alcohol and I'm like, well,

563
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.559
I don't drink that much, but that's done.

564
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.519
And he's like, I'm not saying you have to stop,

565
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:57.759
and I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not going to

566
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:58.480
feed the beast.

567
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.920
So decisions like that were really helpful, trying to reduce

568
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.519
the amount of sugar all of those things is they're

569
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.880
not necessary and and so we're limiting the amount of

570
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.480
things that are necessary. Not that I don't indulge here

571
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.920
in air, but it becomes a very conscious decision as well.

572
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.559
As I have a number of friends that have their

573
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.599
own health challenges, and my conversation to them is I'm

574
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:31.279
available for unconditional support, but I have to tell you

575
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:32.160
I can't take.

576
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.960
On the emotion of your disease, but I will be

577
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.160
there however, I can be there for you.

578
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:44.279
So setting boundaries and conversations along those lines are really,

579
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.960
I think critical, and it really, you know, helped me

580
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.440
move my blood marker. All my blood chemistry is in

581
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.960
the green now, my spleen is back to normal. I

582
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.200
still have chemo pills that I'll take until the end

583
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.519
of January, but for all intents and purposes, it's there.

584
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.319
But I know it's a chronic disease. So you had

585
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:09.079
commented to me on my Facebook post and how I

586
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:14.400
made it a kind of a story around competition and

587
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.720
being competitive. And one of the things is that I

588
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.720
know it's coming back to play for another season, right

589
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:27.039
but what I know from playing it this last season

590
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.880
is I know that I will be an extremely educated

591
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.599
competitor when it decides to show itself again.

592
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.839
So much to learn from you and be inspired by you, Garin,

593
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.400
I'm really really happy to know you and cross paths

594
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.160
and list let our listeners and viewers just kind of

595
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:44.799
think about what you shared there while we take our

596
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:47.640
next break. I'm Alice Cortez with It on the air

597
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.759
with Karen Stower. He's the co founder of Durable Minds,

598
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.720
where they focus on leadership, learning and development to elevate

599
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.160
both individuals and teams. For this part of the show,

600
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.680
we've been hearing about his experience with leukemia. After the break,

601
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.319
we're going to hear more about the work he's doing

602
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:03.279
at Durble Minds.

603
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:04.079
We'll be right back.

604
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.960
Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing in meaning

605
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:26.839
and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author, she helps companies

606
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:30.720
visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

607
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.759
leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance, and

608
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.039
commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite

609
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.839
a lease to speak to your organization, please visit her

610
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.119
at Elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about how to get

611
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:52.960
your employees working on purpose. This is working on Purpose

612
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:56.319
with doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our program today or

613
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:59.119
to open a conversation with Elise, send an email to

614
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:03.759
a lease a l I se at a lascortes dot com.

615
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.960
Now back to working on purpose.

616
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:13.920
Thanksteresting with us, and welcome back to working on Purpose.

617
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.960
I'm your host, doctor Relie Cortes. I mentioned in allows

618
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.079
break that my latest book came out in March tw

619
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:21.760
twenty three, called a Great Revitalization. What I did for

620
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.440
you is I created a three page assessment that you

621
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.679
can pull off my website to determine the extent to

622
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.360
which your culture is meeting the needs of today's discerning workforce.

623
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.079
It's at gustodashnow dot com. It's it's the assessment. You'll

624
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.119
find it there on most of the pages if you

625
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.599
are just now joining us. My guest is Garren Stower,

626
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.000
whose purpose is to illuminate pathways that bridge individuals or

627
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.159
groups to their potential.

628
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:46.039
So before we get.

629
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.679
Into what you're doing at Gurbal Minds, I did find

630
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.360
it pretty interesting and wanted to get you to speak

631
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:56.199
on the George Floyd murder was a very important experience

632
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:57.239
for you in your life.

633
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:57.719
How so.

634
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:03.079
You know being in Saint Paul kind of ground zero

635
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.360
for that was Minneapolis, and.

636
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.000
We we live right in between the two.

637
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:16.079
And so when when that event happened, a lot of

638
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:23.800
the aftermath or that a lot of the incident flowed

639
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:26.719
into Saint Paul, and we were were actually just a

640
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.519
couple blocks from the ground zero of where it entered

641
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:31.280
into Saint Paul.

642
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.760
It was a target that was right next to a

643
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:35.760
police precinct.

644
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.760
And at that time when we were seeing what was

645
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.159
going on, I had a scanner on my on my

646
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:47.360
phone and uh, it was it was important to me

647
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.719
to understand kind of what was going on as it

648
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:55.280
was continuing to migrate throughout the Twin Cities, and uh,

649
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:57.760
what I was hearing on the other end is just

650
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.480
down the road there was a pharmacy that had been

651
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:05.280
set ablaze walking distance from us from our home, and

652
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.559
there was a report of one hundred and fifty to

653
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.320
two hundred individuals gathering and starting to throw rocks at

654
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.880
the fire department as they're trying to put out the blaze.

655
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:21.119
And it had gotten to the point where we put

656
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.239
together a bug out back. Right at the end of

657
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.599
the day, is my safety for my family was number

658
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:30.239
one out of anything. Although I very much liked to

659
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:35.559
support community, that became my priority and just to be

660
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.480
on the safe side. Well, sure enough, I get other

661
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.840
scanning and it's a police scanner. Other scannings of an

662
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:48.079
Amazon truck that was getting pulled over by a car

663
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.760
with individuals in it with AR fifteen's and they were

664
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:56.199
looting the Amazon truck and so the driver had gotten

665
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.159
out and had fleed and just left the truck and

666
00:36:59.239 --> 00:36:59.679
there as.

667
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.679
Well, and that was very close. That was we were

668
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:03.400
getting close to.

669
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.880
Home, and I said, you know what, let's get our bags,

670
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.440
let's go to the cabin, let's get out of town.

671
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.639
For twenty four hours and and let's just stay tuned

672
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:12.480
and see where it goes.

673
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:13.119
And we did.

674
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.360
We went to my sister in laws first and then

675
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.519
ended up going to the to the cabin after that,

676
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:26.519
and when we came back, things had eventually settled down and.

677
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.800
It was all It was all in the COVID.

678
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.119
Time as well, so there was a lot going on,

679
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:40.639
and we had made the decision to as rinks were

680
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.679
shut down and hockey was not happening anymore, and things

681
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:48.039
along those lines, I had put together.

682
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:49.639
We called it the COVID Camps.

683
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.840
They were weekly themes that I did with my daughter

684
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:58.599
and my nephew to keep them engaged and to have

685
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.639
fun with them, and a cardboard camp building sculpture. But

686
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:08.119
one of them was an awareness around the George Floyd

687
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:13.480
incident and really looking at the bigger picture and having

688
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.880
appropriate conversations as my parents had had.

689
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.639
With my sister and I when we were younger.

690
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.840
It was my opportunity to bridge that and to have

691
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.480
that conversation, you know, with our daughter at that time,

692
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.360
who who out of my four children, she was the

693
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.960
one that was still at home and my nephew and

694
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.920
we put together and had them do canvases and paintings

695
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.519
of how they felt about it. And then we went

696
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.960
and we were able to show them the unfortunately the

697
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.239
massive destruction from that event, and went to the square,

698
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.519
the ground zero square, and left their canvases on the

699
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.760
sidewalks along with other memorial that was set up from

700
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:05.480
other people there to acknowledge it and to really say

701
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.199
here's what I understand about it, and then now we

702
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.559
can set it down and now we can move forward.

703
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:17.320
And it was a crafting activity that allowed to put

704
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:22.559
some closure and start working on, you know, revitalization, whatever

705
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:28.639
that meant for our family, right. I kept going back

706
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:33.039
to early intervention for my sister and I was so

707
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.800
significant to us, and now here we're facing it.

708
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.360
With our with my wife and our own children.

709
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:41.760
So we needed to take an opportunity to make that

710
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:45.440
a productive, productive event or an opportunity.

711
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:52.440
I appreciate you sharing that incredibly tragic, horrendous event very

712
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:57.360
much so. And I hope, I hope that we as

713
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.880
a nation learned a lot from that experience, from that loss.

714
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.400
I don't know if we have, but I the optimism,

715
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.639
the optimist in me says that I hope that we

716
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.559
have and are. But thank you for sharing what you

717
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.519
did around that. That was just I don't know what

718
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:12.360
what I had no idea what you were going to

719
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.239
say about that experience, and that was incredibly refreshing.

720
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.119
So thank you. So let's let's know that and.

721
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.880
Go on to what you're doing at Durable Minds one.

722
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.079
I love the name of your organization, your company, Durable Minds, Right.

723
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.679
Names are so so important, and clearly you know mindset

724
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.199
is a big part of what you do, but you

725
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.599
know this whole notion of helping athletes link their mental

726
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.760
game to their physical game is part of what you

727
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.519
do there. So can you just kind of start telling

728
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.960
us a little bit about what you do there? How

729
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.840
do you find the people that you work with and

730
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:42.719
how do you help them?

731
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:43.719
Yeah, so.

732
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:47.199
The business was.

733
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:50.679
My brother in law and I had met on it

734
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.880
and again at one of our times together, and you

735
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.480
have been thinking about similar things at the same time.

736
00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:58.880
He has a son who's a goalie.

737
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.320
And in hockey, and when you win three to two,

738
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.159
you still let two in. So there's an emotional tax,

739
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:12.320
right that comes with some of these positions. And what

740
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:17.400
if game like there isn't anything available like our coaches

741
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.880
are dealing with, So much behavioral things either on a

742
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:23.559
field or on.

743
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.920
A pitch, or on an ice rink, and an ice rink.

744
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:30.440
That it's taking away from the effectiveness sometimes of working

745
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.119
on strategy and skills and so forth and so on.

746
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:41.000
So we had put together a curriculum that allows us

747
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:45.039
to empower the athlete to take some of that responsibility

748
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.840
away from the coach and put the oneness back on

749
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:54.639
the athlete and actually have them build an accountability team

750
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.199
around them to help hold them accountable to their own behaviors.

751
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:03.760
And what the intention is is to take some of

752
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.239
that stress away from the coach and away from the

753
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.960
parents and onto the athlete to be the best version

754
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.360
of a competitor that they can be.

755
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.639
And it's really we really felt like.

756
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.360
Again a lot of colleges and universities have resources available

757
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.639
to them, but the high schools they don't.

758
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.639
Yet we're seeing these behaviors.

759
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:33.239
Earlier and earlier in the athletic careers and with specialization

760
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:34.639
coming earlier, and so.

761
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.519
Again it became what are we going to do about it?

762
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:41.280
And we decided that we would work on that and

763
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.000
put together a business that address that.

764
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:50.039
Amazing, absolutely amazing, and of course, you know, I appreciate

765
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:54.159
as well that you know you, how you situate this

766
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.119
idea of you know, this elevated perspective that I think

767
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.280
you have here on linking mental health with physical games,

768
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.159
I think is very especially given your own experience competing

769
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.679
with leukemia, as you like to say, just very interesting

770
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:11.039
to me how there is a really interesting thread that

771
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:16.239
goes through your whole life when it comes to fitness, mental,

772
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.960
mental acuity, how you manage your own mindset. It's quite

773
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.360
fascinating to me how that's all woven together for you.

774
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:25.920
Thank you. Yeah, I've been.

775
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.559
Lucky to continue to follow what it is that I

776
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.599
love to do, and the health and fitness was just

777
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.280
the beginning of them for me, and I have put

778
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.920
a premium on surrounding myself with such as yourself, with

779
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.800
people that have an elevated experience even over myself, to

780
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.800
really link these opportunities of knowledge and skills abilities to

781
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:54.639
hopefully have wisdom moments that can work people.

782
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.000
I love that wisdom moments. I'd like a few of

783
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:01.840
those please. I thought it was also quite interesting that

784
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.199
you situate that creativity and resourcefulness are two areas that

785
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.679
you were especially especially lean on in your consultative practice

786
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:10.360
with leaders and organizations.

787
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:12.639
Why and how so?

788
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.480
Well, I think one of the things that I found

789
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.599
is that I think systemically, and I say this in

790
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:24.400
society as well as business and so forth, is there

791
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:29.039
is more than enough information out there. And as an organization,

792
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.920
what I found sometimes is that a lot of the

793
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.440
information that's available to its their employees or.

794
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:37.719
Their athletes.

795
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.639
Is not filtered in an intuitive architecture.

796
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.840
Right, So it's oh, we have that, Oh we have that.

797
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.239
And when you do a significant discovery session, which by

798
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.599
the way, thank you for that that last session that

799
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.599
you had in that area.

800
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.440
When you have a significant, significant.

801
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.920
Either strategy session or discovery session, you find out that

802
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:03.440
the effectiveness of all that material, even though it's available.

803
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:07.000
It may not be hunting. Right. So, giving an.

804
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:11.239
Example, as I worked with a swim company that was

805
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.320
looking to educate their instructors when.

806
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.199
They came on and it was a gentleman who.

807
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:18.920
I had worked with, who was the CEO, who called

808
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.320
me in to work with that company and say, hey,

809
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.440
we have information, we have a training that we do

810
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.079
for employees, but in my opinion, it's not where it

811
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.079
needs to be. And so doing the discovery session I

812
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.880
found out that there was if you were to lay

813
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.360
all of the collateral out on the table, you wouldn't

814
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.519
know where to begin. And so I worked to build

815
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.320
an architecture around that. So from the time that somebody

816
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:49.000
says yes to employment, they're onboarding become seamless, their training

817
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.239
becomes seamless, and then the experience to the member is

818
00:45:54.039 --> 00:46:00.320
a experience that then can get publicized in the appropriate way.

819
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.800
So those outcomes. So I built a frontline certification that

820
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:08.880
went from a net promoter score of seven to a

821
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:10.639
net promoter score of seventy three.

822
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:11.599
Wow.

823
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.679
And I had measured all employees beforehand, and I had

824
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.039
measured all employees over a period of time after the

825
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:20.679
new certification had.

826
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.800
Been launched, and it was a significant difference.

827
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.159
And so my belief is is that in that situation,

828
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:34.800
we had to deconstruct in order to then top of that,

829
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.840
let's figure out a way to do it creatively in

830
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.480
today's world so that more of it becomes sticky. Right,

831
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.519
That's the at the end of the day, That's what

832
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.559
we're asking is that we can get a percentage of

833
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.000
attention to the content over a period of time far

834
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.559
more significant than we might have when we first started.

835
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.199
That is really impressive.

836
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.920
Seven to seventy three for a net promoter score.

837
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.719
That is phenomenal results.

838
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:03.360
Thank you, Yeah, very proud of them.

839
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:05.079
Yeah, yeah, that is terrific.

840
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:07.559
I was going to ask you if you had a

841
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:09.880
case study, and that pretty much qualifies for that listener

842
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:12.239
as anything else who wanted to share That just kind

843
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.199
of also illuminates for our listeners and viewers. Just say

844
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.920
in about thirty seconds maybe kind of how it is

845
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:18.760
you work with people.

846
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:25.599
Yeah, so I've been in the learning and development.

847
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.400
Process I've always used, you know, in the company I

848
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:31.480
work for, is called the five d's in designing even

849
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.760
durable minds, it's the Addy process, right, the learning We

850
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.920
assess and design, developed, implement, and evaluate.

851
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.599
But the question becomes is how are you doing each

852
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:44.239
one of those?

853
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:48.360
It's different because some companies resources are limited if they're

854
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:52.199
a startup company, and others have extensive software that you

855
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.440
can use, and so I go back to the discovery

856
00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:00.079
process of like all of that is illuminated in a

857
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.039
really really great discovery presence, and so it's no different

858
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.440
For myself, it was no different when we started building

859
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:07.159
durable Minds.

860
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.800
Wonderful and amazing, So Crisp. So here we already got

861
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:14.159
at the end of the show. You know, this show

862
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.480
is listened by people around the world, Garren who are

863
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.079
interested in either elevating their own experience of work, learning

864
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.440
more as to how to become more more of an

865
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.719
effective or inspiratual leader, or are wanting to architect our

866
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.719
culture that is what I call a destination workplace.

867
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.159
What would you like to leave them with?

868
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.760
Well, I think the work starts with you as an individual, and.

869
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.079
I think at the end of the day, one of

870
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:43.679
the most significant exercises that I go back to constantly,

871
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:48.360
multiple times per week is this exercise around what is

872
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.320
it that I'm wanting to attain and then out of

873
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.199
those experiences that I'm having along the way, what's in

874
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.679
my control and what's out of my control or excuse me,

875
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.000
what's out of my control?

876
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:00.519
And then what's in my control?

877
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.599
And I create a significant link to the things that

878
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:07.679
are in my control and how it will positively influence.

879
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:08.800
A thing that are out of your control, because it.

880
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.280
Can go south as well, right if we're if we

881
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.400
don't have what we call green zone.

882
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.639
Behavior, behavior that's productive.

883
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.440
And so when we link that, it allows us to

884
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:21.840
stay out of the drama and.

885
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.199
Really either move to or stay in the durability.

886
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.519
What a fantastic quitty close. Garin so happy to know

887
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:31.559
you and share with my listeners and viewers around the world.

888
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:33.840
Thank you for coming on, working on purpose and sharing

889
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:34.639
your heart and soul.

890
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.039
Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

891
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.800
Listeners and viewers, you're going to want to learn more

892
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:42.400
about Garren Store and the work he does at Durable Minds,

893
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.840
So just head on out to durableminds dot net. That's

894
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.679
his website, durableminds dot net. Last week, if you missed

895
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:51.440
the live show, you can always get to be recorded

896
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.840
a podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. We are

897
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.480
on Karen Goldenbiddle, the author of The Untapped Power of Discovery,

898
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.599
How to Create Change that Inspires a Better Future. She

899
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.119
gave us some provocative insight on how to create a

900
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.880
culture of discovery and organizations and shared several inspiring stories

901
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.199
showcase and the results of people and organizations who embrace

902
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:15.519
the discovery process and.

903
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:15.320
From her book.

904
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:17.480
Next, we will be on the air with Ben Lytel

905
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.559
talking about his powerful book The Potentialist to the Pursuit

906
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.079
of wisdom. His book is packed with so many novel

907
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:28.239
insights on human potential, and we'll showcase as many as

908
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.280
we can in our conversation there next week.

909
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:31.840
See there, Remember that work is.

910
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.440
One of the best adventures and means of realizing our potential,

911
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:35.960
making the impact we crave.

912
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.519
So let's work on Purpose.

913
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.320
We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

914
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:47.000
tune into Working on Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,

915
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:48.480
each week on W four C.

916
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:48.840
Why.

917
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Together, We'll create a world where business operates conscientiously, leadership

918
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.880
inspires and passion performance and employees are fulfilled in work

919
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.159
that provides the meaning and purpose they crave. See you there,

920
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:01.760
Let's work on Purpose.