Sept. 16, 2025

Stop Settling: Break the Rules and Flourish

Stop Settling: Break the Rules and Flourish
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Too many of us are stuck in survival mode—numb, disconnected, and quietly shrinking. Carolina Lasso says it’s time to rebel against the lie that “getting by” is good enough. In this episode, she shares seven unapologetic principles for creating a life of joy, vitality, and purpose. If you’re ready to ditch the status quo and finally bloom into your fullest self, this conversation is your wake-up call.

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What's working on Purpose? Anyway? Each week we ponder the

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answer to this question. People ache for meaning and purpose

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at work, to contribute their talents passionately and know their

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lives really matter. They crave being part of an organization

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highest potential. Business can be such a force for good

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in the world, elevating humanity. In our program, we provide

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guidance and inspiration to help usher in this world we

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all want Working on Purpose. Now, here's your host, doctor

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Elise Cortez.

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Welcome back to the Working on Purpose program, which has

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been brought to you with passionate and price since February

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of twenty fifteen. Thanks for tuning again. This great to

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have you. I'm your host, doctor e Release Cortez. If

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we have not met before and you don't know me,

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I am a workforce advisor, organizational psychologists, management consultant, logo therapists,

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a speaker and author. My team and I at gusta

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Now help companies to enliveen, and fortify their operations by

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building a dynamic high performance culture, inspirational leadership, and nurturing

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managers activated by meaning and purpose. Many organizations are not

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aware of how critical it is to invest in developing

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their leaders and managers not just for their own effectiveness,

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but also to avoid burnout and keeping them fulfilled. And

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also that they can measure and monitor the purpose experience

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in their organization to keep it working as an operational imperative.

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And did you know that inspired employees outperform their certified

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peers by a factor of two point twenty five two one.

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In other words, purpose or excuse me, Inspiration is good

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for the bottom line, so as purpose. By the way,

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you can learn more about us and how we can

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work together at gustodeshnow dot com and at Lascortes dot

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com getting into today's program we have with us Carolina Lasso.

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She's the founder of Plenari, the Purpose Academy dedicated to

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unlocking your full potential through transformative experiences. She's the creator

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of the Plenimente podcast. She served as the global head

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of Marketing at SIY Global or I think It's called

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silly and is a certified search inside Yourself teacher. She's

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the co author of the Purpose Reset How Becoming How

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we reconnecting to what matters most drives fulfillment and success,

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which we talked about in an earlier episode. She's also

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the author of the Path to Flourishing Seven Principles for

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a Joyful, fulfilling and purposeful Life, which will be talking

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about today. Godoline, a hearty welcome back to working on purpose.

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Benity that it's so special to come back. It feels

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like a familiar space already. Hello, Doctor Lee's gets a

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little beautiful soul.

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It's so wonder to have you back. Thank you being

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you and gallivanting the planet the way that you do.

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It's my pleasure to be here, to have the conversation

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and to connect with your audience again.

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Well, let's celebrate this time. What you brought forth your

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first book, The Path to Flourishing, and how beautiful it is.

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I love that you could actually envision when you were

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working through this process. You could actually envision the blue cover.

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And the and smell. I could smell the book before

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it was printed.

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It was so amazing to see that. I just love,

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love love that. Okay, so you have written a really,

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really beautiful book that's very personal and also incredibly it's opening,

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and it's also very actionable. But let's just open the

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conversation by talking about really where the book came from

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and why you felt like you had to share these

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seven principles for creating this joyful, fulfilling and purposeful life

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for listeners of yours who haven't yet read the book

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like I have.

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Yeah, yeah, where did it come from? I remember it

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started during the pandemic, and I had already written blog posts,

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and I had tons of notebooks of had written ideas

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and thoughts, and every time I would take a class,

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I would write some notes, listen to a podcast every

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time I write a book, and so I started consolidating

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all of these thoughts and ideas. But it wasn't until

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the pandemic. And honestly, I had the time and the

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space to pause and to think about my purpose, and

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the thought of legacy came up, and I started to

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write it. And it took me nine months to write it,

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which is quite some book. And then I actually published

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it first in Spanish under the name len, which is

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a word that it's really hard to translate into other languages,

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and then I published it in English under the purpose Reset.

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I'm sorry, the backup flourishing Purpose Reset is my life

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this book that we talked about the other day, and

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it's really that it's the path that can lead us

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to a flourishing life. And I try to make it

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as practical and relatable and real as possible because it's

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truth is it was my life story and how I

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uncovered many of the principles that I talk about.

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Mm hmm. I saw somewhere there that's see what You've

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got advice from somebody not to put on all your

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personal stories. I'm so glad that you ignored that, because

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that's really part of what helps us understand why this

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is so important. And I know that part of the

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reason you wrote the book is is to help plant

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a seed of curiosity about flourishing in your readers, but

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also because you were heeding your own inner calling, which

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I really really applaud I've had. That's a journey too.

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I understand what it feels like to be you know,

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you're being summoned and it's like this, It's this compelling

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poll that grabs you, and it's so beautiful when you

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lean into it and listen to it. It's just so powerful.

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Absolutely, I feel like it's a magnet. And I was

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kind of pulled into it, and of course all the

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stories in my mind would.

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Come up, as I'm sure as a case for many

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people listening to us.

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Who am I to write a book? The biggest one

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for me, I'll share openly, was well, I'm like to

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talk about personal development when I the international business and

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I have an MBA with a bout finance right to

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be doing that's not for me. Let's leave it to

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the experts. But that that calling, that magnet that paul

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as you're talking about, it was so strong and I

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had to answer the calling.

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I'm so glad you did. It's so beautiful what you're

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doing in the world. I so applauded. And you know

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that you and I are are sisters in spirit, so Yeah,

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we're doing some very similar work, so let's dive into

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some of the content. I don't know if we'll get

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through all seven of your principles. We'll get through as

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many as we can, but I think it's probably important

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first that we situate your definition of flourishing.

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H absolutely, ah. There are so many ways to describe it,

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but I like to think about it as our natural state,

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a state of well being, of fulfillment, of profound joy

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that comes from within. In a way, it's who we are.

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That state of flourishing is who we truly are. I

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like to compare it to the sky. The blue sky

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is always there, is always present, and sometimes it is

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covered by clouds, but the fact that there are clouds

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doesn't mean the blue sky isn't there. Stable, majestic, huge,

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and limited. That's how I think of our true selves,

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our in ourselves, and that's how I think of that

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deeper state of flourishing, that stable, unlimited state of being.

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That's so beautiful. Is that why the cover of the

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book is the sky blue color?

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Maybe? And ring just checking?

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Okay, Well, then I just have to situate and also

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celebrate why this flourishing If it's not convincing enough that

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you want to live in that kind of space. Then

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Carolina goes on to say, when people cultivate flourishing in

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their lives, not only do they live better, but they

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also contribute directly to our collective human well being and growth. Yes, ma'am,

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I love that.

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Yes, I actually think working on our individual state of

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flourishing is doing the world a favor, right, because if

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we were to start there, then we would have enough space, creativity, intuition,

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wisdom to take action and change the things in the

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world that we do need to change.

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Right.

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I'm not trying to say just put all the onus

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on the individual. I'm trying to say, we start there

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and from that state, oh, we can create all the

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change we want to see in the world.

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Well, I'll just quickly check in on this just for

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to magnify what you're saying. And it's import the last

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book that I put out, it's co written by with

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Arthur Cerra mccoulay, who's a clinical psychologist. I'm an organizational psychologist.

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It's called The Power of Soulful Healing, Turning Wounds into Wisdom,

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and the whole premise of the book is every single

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one of us humans walking the planet is walking wounded.

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The question is to what extent are we aware of

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our wounds? And how are we trying to heal? And

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the more that we heal, the more we help others heal,

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the more we lift the world. So very similar but

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coming at it from different different angles.

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Yeah, that's beautiful goodness.

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Agree, And so we, like I say, we're sisters in

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arms here crobly not?

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I know? Okay, So well, let's dive in.

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I want to get through as much as I can too.

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So the first principle I love how you organized this

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into really a living sort of organism lack type look

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and in terms of your graphic, But the first of

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your seven principles is pause. And I like how you

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even describe what you mean by that. So let's talk

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a little bit about pause.

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To me, a pause is a moment too, but the

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break right in this world that is moving so quickly,

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in this world of hustling and doing and productivity, taking

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a moment to stop is a little bit a revolution, right,

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And there are many different ways we can take a pause.

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We can stop. It can be taking three breaths before

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sending that nasty email that you're about to send and

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may regret. It can be about taking time off, vacation,

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taking a day off when you're sick. How many times

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do we feel like we have to power through and

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keep on going even when our body needs healing, when

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our hearts need healing, and or it can be vacation

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or in my case and the this at the core

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of my book is this trip that I took around

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the world. It's a little cliche to do the whole

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It's a little bit like you pray love Colombian style

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my friends. Yeah, I don't be that way. I honestly

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didn't planet. Actually, I don't think I had read that

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book back then. It wasn't published even but that opportunity

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to take distance, and to me, it was less about

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the distance that I would travel. It was more about

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connecting with myself. But in order to do so, I

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did have to zoom out a little bit. So that's

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another way of taking a pause. In my case, it

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was a forced mental health leave of absence that I

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had to take because I couldn't go any further. It was.

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It was a hard moment for me and that break

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changed my life.

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The well, I like how you start with this this

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notion of pause, and I like how you say, you

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just you describe it, and I quote in your book

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any break used to disconnect from your routine or to

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create spaces for rest, leisure and introspection. By pausing, we

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can connect with our inner self more deeply and directly,

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which is what you're talking about. But I really think

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I'm zeroing in on the introspection piece, having a space

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to have the time for introspection, which you say to

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you talk about how much the pandemic it did that

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for you as well, it did it for millions of us, right,

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for an opening.

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to joy enjoy those you know, those moments doing perfectly

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nothing or seemingly nothing but just drinking it in. That's

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one of the many reasons I know you and I

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both love to travel and to connect with other cultures

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we can learn from. And I know I both of

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us have been expanded by being in the different cultures.

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my mental health leave going to travel the world. The

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truth is that I was on a quest to figure

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out why it was that I wasn't happy, because you see,

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I did everything that I was told or that I

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heard about, that I needed to do in order to

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be happy. Right, I followed the American dream, moving as

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a seventeen year old from Columbia to the United States.

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I got a full scholarship to go to college. I

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in financial services. I worked in media and entertainment that

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I got a job offer at Google. I got married.

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I was living in Silicon Valley, in sunny Veil, out

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of all places, and it was literally sunny Veil right

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like everything was just perfect, sunny, blue sky sand. Deep inside,

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not the case, And now I know it was purpose.

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in the book, the seven mindfulness based principles that I

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talk about. That's why they feel so real and so

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authentic to me. And I wholeheardly believe that those are

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the principles that can truly create a shift. And these

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I should put this into practice. And there we are,

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grab our first break. I will comment on how I

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into the break. Here we are I'm your host, Doctor

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release Cortez. We've been on the year with Carolina Lasso,

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who's the founder of Planardio Planarti excuse me Planarti, which

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is the purpose academy dedicated to unlocking your full potential

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through a transformative through transformed experiences. She's also the creator

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of Planomende podcast. We've been talking about the first principle

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in her book, The Path to Flourishing. After the break,

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and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author. She helps companies

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visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

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A Lisee at eliscortes dot com. Now back to working

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Thanks for staying with us, and welcome back to working

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on Purpose. I'm your host, doctor Relise Cortes, as I

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am dedicated to helping create a world where organizations thrive

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that help them find and contribute their greatness. And we

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What do they want and need from you to want

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provide that for them. You can find my books on

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Amazon or my personal site at least quortest dot com

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if you're just now joining us. My guest is car

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Flourishing Seven Principles for a Joyful, fulfilling, and purposeful Life.

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So I understand a lot about your journey because I

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went through something similarly, not to the same extent, but

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it started for me when I lived in Brazil. I

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was really twenty seven years old. I've moved there when

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I was twenty six. I mean, just like you're talking

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about perfect life, you know, I'm there with my then boyfriend.

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Nice job, We're traveling all over the world, we have,

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you know, a great lifestyle. We live in full time

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made chow for a gardener, all the whole bit. I'm

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studying because I don't have a work visa and I

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don't have a care in the world. And that sounds

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really amazing and it was. But there was just one problem,

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and that was I was often very depressed and very

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very unhappy. And that is where I discovered the existential

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vacuum of logo therapy. When we are not being of

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service to others, some helping in some way, we then

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often fall prey to that depression of wliness and that's

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that's what set me down the path, Carlina, of studying

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meaning and purpose and realizing why I had to continue

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to answer that thing that was summoning me and telling

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me to get on the same path that basically you're

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get it.

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Oh gosh, yeah, I can connect to that story. I

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appreciate it. You said the existential vacuum of logo therapy.

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I know we can talk about so many different things,

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but can we double click on that?

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I love it. We can double click on that. Yeah,

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so you know, so the existential vacuum, what that really

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speaks to is that feeling of emptiness, right, It's that

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feeling like and people often see it to me in

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practical terms, that there must be more lifeliness. And what

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we've learned is that in logo therapy. So one of

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my master's degrees is in logo philosophy, and so logo

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therapy we've never heard of that, ladies and gentlemen, It's

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logos is Greek for meanings. So logo therapy is basically

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vitalizing through meaning. And so what we know is that

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we are at our best as humans when we're in

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basically in a state of self transcendence. We transcend beyond ourselves,

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we're being of service beyond ourselves, and we have the

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capacity to be able to help situate our mind or

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attitude toward that state no matter what life throws at us.

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We have the ability to choose our attitude. But when

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we're stuck in that state of existential the exsidential vacuum,

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it feels hopeless. And now we've we're into a state

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of learned helplessness, and a lot of bad things can

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happen in that space.

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The way you describe it is exactly what I hear

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from so many people. So now I'm working as a

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purpose mentor, and it usually starts like that. You know,

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a life that many people would call either perfect or

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things are going well, but then eventually, at some point,

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something clicks and something disconnects, and people move to frustration

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and confusion, followed by a sense of lack of motivation,

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some apathy, some lack of vitality, which moves into emptiness.

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That emptiness, that vacuum, and then depression, anxiety, concern, worry,

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God disconnecting from the world is so concerning to see

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people walking day in and day out that path of emptiness,

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of lack of motivation. And because I've felt it too,

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I know what it's like, and I am committed to

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that to as just as you do, sharing practices, sharing

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resources that can truly help us move from that into

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a better state. And I don't like the artificial optimism

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of you can do it, just change a couple of

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things and it'll all be done. I always talk about

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cultivating these principles and the ongoing work that it requires,

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You don't have to go from depression to smiling and

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thriving and laughter.

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But can we take one step up the ladder, even

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if you move into you know what, I am, Okay, okay,

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it's better than apathy, languishing, and then the next time

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you may go up the ladder and feel better.

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It's not look better better, and then.

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Something may happen and you go back down.

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Right, This is not linear, This is not artificial. It

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has to be authentic, it has to be pro found.

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We go to the root the situation. We have deep conversations,

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deep experiences that it is possible to move.

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Up that lad mhmm. You know what's wonderful about this exchange?

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I love I love having this exchange with you, and

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I love that you're in the moment, and I love

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to ass to double click on logo logotherapy or the

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existential vacuum. And what is so beautiful about this whole

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place that we're in is it allows me beautifully to

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situate your second principle, which is which is presence, the

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gift of the moment. Isn't that beautiful?

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It is beautiful? And I have to be honest with you.

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I was skeptical about it when every single book about

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self help or personal development I read would talk about presence,

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And in the back of my mind, I used to think,

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but why, like, why does it matter? Why is it

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that what I am thinking about would have an impact

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on my well being? Let me just be happy and

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think about I'm a planner, so just like, let me

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think about the future. I really enjoyed. I get joy

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out of it. But there it is. And many times

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for us, the people who focus so much in the future,

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we tend to worry a lot. So there is a

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lot of planning, yes, but also concern, worry, preoccupation, anxiety,

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there is a lot of rumination. There is a lot

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of regret. There is I should have done this, or

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what if I had done it differently, or some nostalgia

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which sometimes can be romantic and beautiful, but also can

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take you away from the press moment, I mean, the end.

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The present moment is all we have. Everything else is

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either gone or doesn't exist yet. And there are many

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different studies that present evidence on the importance of presence

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for a well being. Because right here, right now, as

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hard as it may seem to comprehended or really integrated

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in our hearts, in this moment, right here, right now,

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I am okay.

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I don't remember if you said this in the book.

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I know you talk about ikey Guy, the Japanese concept

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or the meaning basic meaning in your life. But there

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is another Japanese concept that I've treated on this podcast before,

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called to go eachy a, and that is really about

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the presence being celebrating the moment, and the whole core

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of the of it is that cherish this moment before

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for this moment will never pass again. In other words,

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it's uniquely beautiful, don't miss it. And so to that end,

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I would love for you to share you have some

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practices that you offer to help us cultivate presence, starting

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with meditation, of course, but then second one is practicing

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savoring each moment proactively, which is what we're really doing

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in this conversation.

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Mm hmmm. I have a micro hack that I like

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to share it with people. Can I share it with me?

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Are you reader here right now?

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Okay? So a little micro hack that I use with

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my mind sometimes when we're thinking so much about the past,

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pressing the future? Am I doing things to right? What's

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going on? Sometimes the mind is so so so busy,

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And what I do is I ask my mind. I

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literally ask my own mind what's going to be my

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next thought? M everybody give it a try right now,

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just like close your eyes for a moment and ask

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yourself what's my next thought? What you get?

465
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I didn't get anything as well. I was like, I'm

466
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like that this is a cosmic pattern interrupt or something

467
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I don't know.

468
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It's an amazing It's a shortcut because the mind get

469
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so confused, like I don't know what you're gonna think about?

470
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Nex like's there what's there was there, So you go

471
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:20.160
into nothing else, you go into presence. There's nothing you're seeking,

472
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but you're seeking in the present moment, there's nothing there.

473
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It's such a good shortcut. But just like that, there

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are many different ways that we can use to come

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back to the present moment again and again. Of course

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meditation being the most direct way to cultivate this skill,

477
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to build the muscle of presence, coming back to the

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present again and again, and truly that is meditation. Every

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time we get distracted, we recognize it, we come back.

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Every time we get distracted, we recognize it and we

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come back. Many people think meditations about making your mind

482
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blank and going empty, and that's very difficult for most people.

483
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But it is that practice of coming back to presence.

484
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So those are two of my favorite tools.

485
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Wonderful. I also do love that you talk about engaging

486
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in physical exercise to get us back into our bodies.

487
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.160
I think that's really really important for presence. I know

488
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for me, that's one of my that's it's a go

489
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to for me. I gotta have it. Okay, Well, then

490
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let's talk about the third principle, which I really really

491
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really really love and have only really recently come to

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I think more fully embrace it in my own life,

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and that's compassion.

494
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Absolutely what an important element in life, whether it's compassion

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to ourselves, whether it's compassion to others. I was reading

496
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this story, I think it was in the book Altered

497
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Traits by Daniel's Daniel Goldman and Richard Davidson, and they

498
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.279
talk about how they were having a conversation with the

499
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Diali Lama, and the Deli Lama was surprised to see

500
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that in the Western cultures we have a different word

501
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:15.000
for self compassion because in general, when we talk about compassion,

502
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.839
we kind of exclude ourselves. And that's true, right you

503
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:23.519
think of compassions like, oh, somebody else. Not only that,

504
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.720
but I think there are a lot of myths around compassion,

505
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of it being like pity or or that you have

506
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:39.000
to feel bad for somebody else. But the beautiful way

507
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:43.079
of thinking about compassion is empathy in action, being able

508
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.519
to feel with another person, which is the empathy component.

509
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But then asking yourself a question, what is of service

510
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:55.160
right now? And I love that question? What is of service?

511
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.160
What's of service can be rolling up your sleeves and

512
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.440
helping someone else. You can also be distancing yourself to

513
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give the other person space. It can be silence, it

514
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can be a word of appreciation. It can be something

515
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like I have no idea what to say right now,

516
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but I know you're struggling, and I'm right here. One

517
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:20.680
piece of service, removing the selves, removing the like ooh,

518
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how does this affect me? Or ooh this is too

519
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.279
hard for me. Removing all of that and just staying

520
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with pure, unconditional love. That is so beautiful, Carolina, just beautiful. Okay,

521
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because I want to get through as many as we can.

522
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I want to talk next about perspective, which I think

523
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is incredibly powerful. I do agree with you these seven principles.

524
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If we continue to nurture these, they will radically transform

525
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our lives for the better.

526
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So perspective.

527
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Perspective is about how what you focus on grows, and

528
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so it begs the question what are you focusing on?

529
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And of course, human beings, we have a little bit

530
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of wiring and bias forward negativity that we tend to

531
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stick to. It's not working, well, what's lacking?

532
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.799
I might have everything in the world and then I'm like,

533
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.480
I still need that one car or whatever.

534
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:24.160
Right, So how can we be more aware and bring

535
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:31.359
more awareness for consciousness, more attention toward what it is

536
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that we want to grow. So that's part of perspective.

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Within the perspective chapter, I also talk about gratitude, which

538
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in my mind is the ultimate way of giving something perspective,

539
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:50.039
understanding where where are the other persons coming from, and

540
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:53.599
being grateful for it, Understanding the meaning of a particular

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situation and being grateful for it. And I know it's

542
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.960
it sounds really hard to be grateful for something that

543
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.279
may not have gone our way or may not be

544
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what we're expecting, or for something to be labeled as

545
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:12.000
negative and ask me to be grateful, But it's about

546
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wesignifying situations, giving a new meaning, given a new perspective.

547
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.480
In this chapter, I also talk about growth mindset versus

548
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:26.839
fixed mindset, and how the stories we tell ourselves about

549
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:31.599
the events that take place in our lives become our lives.

550
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In essence, if you think about it, our lives are

551
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nothing about the sum of the interpretations of the events

552
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that take place in our lives.

553
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Wow, is so powerful, Yes, ma'am, that is right.

554
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And so if it's the sum of the interpretation of

555
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.799
the meaning we give to the different events throughout our journeys.

556
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Then the explanations the stories would tell ourselves about those

557
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.599
events truly matter, Truly truly matter. We don't remember facts,

558
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.880
we remember the emotions we failed. We remember those stories

559
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we make up about each situation.

560
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So that's perspective, beautifully explained and generated. Carolina. We're going

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to grab our next break and let our listeners and

562
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viewers contemplate maybe some moments in their life of what

563
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they're grateful for. Meanwhile, I'm your host, doctor Relice Cortes.

564
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We've run the air with Carolina Lasso. She's the founder

565
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of clanati and which is the purpose academy dedicated to

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unlocking your full potential through transformative experiences. She's also the

567
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creator of the Clenimente podcast. We've been talking about and

568
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showcasing a few of her principles from her book, The

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Path to Flourishing. After the break, we're going to talk

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about curiosity.

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We'll be right back.

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Doctor Elise Cortes is a management consultant specializing in meaning

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and purpose. An inspirational speaker and author, she helps companies

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visioneer for greater purpose among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired

575
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leadership and meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment, performance and

576
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commitment within the workforce. To learn more or to invite

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Alease to speak to your organization, please visit her at

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elisecortes dot com. Let's talk about how to get your

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employees working on purpose. This is Working on Purpose with

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doctor Elise Cortes. To reach our program today or to

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open a conversation with Elise, send an email to Elise

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Alise at elisecortes dot com. Now back to working on Purpose.

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Think interesting with us and welcome back to working on Purpose.

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I'm your host, doctor Elise Cortes. As you know by now,

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this program is dedicated to empowering it and inspiring you

586
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along your journey to realize more of your potential. If

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you want to learn more about how we can work

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together and learn about the Gusto Now Academy for leaders

589
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and individuals on various journeys alike, make your way to

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Gusto dashnow dot com and then navigate to the training

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tab and you'll be able to find the academy there.

592
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We would love to have you join us if you

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are just now coming onto the podcast today. My guest

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is Carlino Lasso She is the author of the Path

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to Flourishing Seven Principles for a joyful, fulfilling, and purposeful Life.

596
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So I embrace all of your principles and I definitely

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try to nurture them in my own life. And I

598
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totally jam on the principle, the principle curiosity. Let's talk

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about that one.

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Let's think about that one. And that's one I actually

601
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:48.800
didn't know that exce appropriate to include, because curiosity, Like,

602
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.280
what does that have to do with all of the

603
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.800
other principles that sound a little bit more more recognized

604
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or validated, But this one is so special. And now

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I love as a purpose mentor, I always work with

606
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the people that I support and I work with on

607
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.199
the topic of curiosity, on this scale of curiosity. And

608
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.840
it's not about being curious about someone else's life. It's

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not about being nosy. It's about really connecting to yourself.

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So self knowledge, self reflection, self discovery, introspection, it all

611
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starts with curiosity, right. Think about it. It's like when

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you're feeling sad one day and you wake up and

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00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:38.719
you're like, oh, I don't know what's going on. I

614
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.719
feel sad today. There has to be some curiosity to

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00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:47.400
explore what's going on here and what's triggering it, right,

616
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:50.800
and that can be the case with any emotion. So

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curiosity to get to know ourselves better, curiosity to understand others,

618
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and when you're in conversations, having that open mind, that

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open heart to listen. I really like this and concept

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of showsing beginner's mind, that openness, the state of alle

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sate of presence, the ability to be humble and want

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to learn and not considered necessarily that we are experts

623
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in everything. So it's that that's curiosity, that openness of heart,

624
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:38.519
mind enhance to offer, to receive, to get to know,

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00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:40.800
to learn, to explore the world.

626
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I really loved how you've talked about a course, you know, labeling,

627
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labeling your mental activity, but also investigating like a scientist

628
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and then having the tourist mindset. That really resonates with

629
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.519
me as somebody who loves to travel, is do you

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investigate like a scientist and then have a tourist mindset

631
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about it? There, just go playing that and be delighted

632
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about what you find and to allow yourself to be

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given over by it. It's just it's so beautiful.

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Absolutely, because it's so common that when we're traveling, and

635
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you like to travel, I do. We go to a

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new place and it's like, oh my gosh, the food

637
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is amazing. Have you seen those colors and all the flavors,

638
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and then the architecture and the people at the language,

639
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it's fantastic, fascinating. And you go back home and everything

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looks met and everything is for standard. We don't even

641
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pay attention, what architecture, what this is my place? I

642
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don't pay attention. And so this actually comes from a

643
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.840
friend of mine, Mario, and he lives like that. He

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lives every day with the tourist mindset, and I learned

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it from him, and I try to integrate it into

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my life, not always, but as much as I can.

647
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I'm in for that. I'm in for that. Okay, now

648
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.400
we're on the sixth principle, which is purpose. We have

649
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to dive into that just because right that's our jam.

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Absolutely so.

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I love you.

652
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.360
Know you talk about really the opening quotes, and you

653
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have so many beautiful quotes in your book. I mean,

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there's just so much color and verb in your book.

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But the first, the opening quote in this chapter is

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from David Viscott. The purpose of your life is to

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discover your gift. The work of life is to develop it.

658
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The meaning of life is to give it away. That

659
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.000
is so beautiful and I really resonate with that. So

660
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let's dive into purpose.

661
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What is it?

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First?

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Purpose? Yes, I've been thinking so much about purpose, and

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of course we talked about my second book, The Purpose Reseaid,

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where we could do a deep dive into this topic.

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But to me, it is a process. It's a journey

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the destination not at that end, but an ongoing process buying.

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Of course, there's that sense of identifying your longings, your strength,

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as value as your intentions, and then with that information

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about awareness, taking action, doing something about it. With the

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extra comp surface.

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You talked about transcending the self.

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We have to there has to be more than a

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self that's satisfying this one person and being able.

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To put ourselves in the surface.

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Mhm. I always like to talk about that when I'm

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talking on stages about purpose, et cetera. I like to

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situate what purpose isn't I was speaking at a conference

679
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and that the woman in front of me got up

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and she belt it out, my purpose is to double

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my income. Who that's really misleading that's not purpose. That's

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a fine goal, but it's not purpose. Why Because it's,

683
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to your point, always about being of service to something

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beyond yourself. So I just really want to reiterate that

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with our audience because I know a lot of people.

686
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What counts for purpose?

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Absolutely.

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I g am also on your notion of enthusiasm as

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your compass in the purpose quest and journey. I love

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that enthusiasm, joy, inspiration, happiness, and deep pleasure are your

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best guides when seeking your purpose. Your divine self wants

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you to achieve your purpose in this human experience. So

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when you get close to it, you're on the right path.

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You feel joy and a sense of fulfillment. That's a

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great sign that you're doing what your true essence wants

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for you. I can relate to that exactly, Carlina. That

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is what happened to me that whenever I always like

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to say, answered to call and I listened to that

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00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.920
thing that said, okay, Liz, put your next foot right

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or you're in this little pad right there. Every time

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I answered to that, I felt joy every time.

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Yeah that's beautiful. Yeah, it's one step at a time,

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and enthusiasm has that curiosity component So a lot of

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people talk about follow your passion, and I've stopped using

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that terminology. Passion sound so heavy sometimes and like, there's

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just one passion, I have to go find it. What

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if I don't find it? What if I have many passions?

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Why did you choose one? What if I've changed my mind?

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I don't like the prior passion? Than what do I do? Right?

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It has a lot of it creates anxiety. So what

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if we were to not only see it as a journey,

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but the journey we are already walking and we're being guided,

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and the guide comes in disguid The guide comes as

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curiosity mixed with joy, and I think those two create enthusiasm.

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And I love looking into the etymology of words, and

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this one has in particular cut my attention because it

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comes from the Greek and sales and thoos in God,

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in divinity, in inspiration. Think about it that way.

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And so when you are following your enthusiasm, your curiosity

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with your joy, you're feeling in alignment with something a

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little bit beyond the self, our intelligence, however you want

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to call it.

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So I really really like it, and I also feel it.

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And so people tell you what I don't feel enthusiastic

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about anything, And I say, there has to be a

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little bit of curiosity about something. Who do you follow

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on Instagram? What kind of video? What kind of videos

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do you watch on YouTube? What kind of books are

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you inclined to buy even if you don't buy them,

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even if you don't read them? What are the topics

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you search about on chat, GPT? What are your conversations? Right?

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Whatever it is, there has to be something. And usually

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when we combine all of those data points, look at this,

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it's exploring our lives as scientists, collecting data from our

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day to day. When do I feel inspired? When do

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I feel dreamed? What kind of dreams am I having?

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What gives me up at night? What gets me even

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if it's a little bit, what gets me a little excited?

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All of that counts.

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You and I could have a whole separate series about

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purpose and such. I do want to point out for

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listeners and viewers, I love your model of helping helping

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people through the clarity, Causes and change framework. Can you

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just talk about that briefly and then maybe we can

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hit just a little bit on your seventh principle afterwards.

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Absolutely, and an open invitation.

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If anyone wants to chat or if you have questions

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about any of the topics we've tot about, feel free

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to connect with me on linkedinka when my website is

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the link Carolinalassa dot com.

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But so I uncovered those three steps, just a little

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shortcup for me to think about steps to connect with

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our purpose or reconnect with our purpose. So clarity, awareness

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of all the things we just talked about. What gives

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you somese of enthusiasm? What are your strengths, what are

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your interest Then to that's clarity causes that's related to

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what moves you? So specifically, what causes in the world

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move you? Is it environmentalism? Is it education? Like there

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has to be something? And I always say that it's

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equally important to know your causes and to also know

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what you don't care about. And let's be honest about it,

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and let's be realistic. You kind of care about every

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single cause in the world. That's okay, So let's be

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clear what really moves you. And I think having big

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emotions related to our cause would be a good sign

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that you're on the right truck and then change. And

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I do think that we need to be brave many times,

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and courage comes from taking action. Courage also means creating

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the change we want to see in the world, creating

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the change we need in our lives, whether it's changing

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a job, changing moving to another city, changing relationships, anything

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that really supports you on your path to worphus purposeful life,

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and that can come in many, many different ways. But

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we do need some courage to take action because there

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are many forces in our system, in our society that

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kind of prevent us from making big, drastic changes or

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small changes. But that feeling alignment with what which really.

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Want just gorgeous. You know, we really don't have time

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to go into this of the principle, but well, let

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me just quickly introduce it for our listeners and viewers

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because it's so beautiful. In that chapter is just chock

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full of so much. But you talk about the seventh principles,

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you say that acceptance means allowing and trusting life as

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is with equanimity, and equanimity is the ability to maintain

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emotional balance and stability regardless of external situations. It means

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living in the present without reacting with attachment or aversion

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to life's ups and downs. That sounds like a lot

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to cultivate to me. And I also want to really

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call out and celebrate how you talk about our opportunity

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to really embrace forgiveness and it's a way of letting go,

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but it really is more beneficial to the person who

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forgives than the person who is forgiven or what is forgiven.

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And I really want to celebrate just how powerful I

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found that to be, because that's definitely one that I

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could nurture a bit more here and there.

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I think all of us can.

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All of us can, whether it's so whe near to us,

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whether it's someone we don't know, whether it's politics, whether

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it's macro level events, there's so much that we can

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do to cultivate more of that acceptance principle.

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And now I do need to be clear here. Acceptance

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does not mean giving up. It does not mean not

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sending boundaries. It's quite the opposite. It's understanding what's within

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our control and for that to everything you can to

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create the change you need. But for whatever you cannot control, truly,

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what can you do? And how can we surrender to

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a higher intelligence? And how can we stop fighting our

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present moment and wanting it to be different and how

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can we accept it And from that acceptance, which comes

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with greater awareness and clarity, then we can go and

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set boundaries, create the change, go fight for what we

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think is important.

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That is an incredible way to finish the show. Carolina.

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I want to say thank you again, as I said before,

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for being you, for putting your workout in the world,

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for coming back onto working on purpose a second time.

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It is a delight to know you and share you

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with my listeners and viewers.

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Thank you, Thank you for inviting me again. Thanks to

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everyone who made it this far, for listening to us,

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and thank you so much for what you do and

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for this wonderful show.

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Thank you, Carlina, listeners and viewers. If you want to

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learn more about Carlina Lasso, the work she does at Plenari,

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her Plundamente podcast, or her books, best to start visiting

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her personal site is Carlino Lasso. Let me spell that

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for you. Gotlina is c A r O l I

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n A Lasso l A S s O Carlinoalasso dot com.

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Last week, if you missed the live show, you can

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always catch it be you recorded, podcast or wherever you

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get them. See see you then for another nourishing and

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elevating conversation Together, Let's lean in and learn together about

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how to make workplaces that work for everyone and find

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ways to do business that betters the world. Let's work

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on Purpose.

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We hope you've enjoyed this week's program. Be sure to

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tune into Working on Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,

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each week on W four CY. Together, we'll create a

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world where business operates conscientiously. Leadership inspires and passion performance,

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and employees are fulfilled in work that provides the meaning

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and purpose they crave. See you there, Let's work on Purpose.