Find Your “Wanderful” Life by Dancing with the Wisdom of the Street

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least Coortes dot com. Now getting in

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today's program, we have some very
someone, very fun and special to bring

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you this week, drawing on a
lifetime experience an opera, theater and film

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David Peerl has pioneered the use of
the arts and business the creative confidante to

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high profile CEOs and their teams across
the Globe. He's an ex BBC broadcaster

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and today is responsible for designing,
orchestrating and animating on and off high stakes

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meetings the world over. He's the
founder of the nonprofit social venture Street Wisdom,

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and keeps his creative insights sharp with
his improvising ensemble improp para I think

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it's called. He describes the common
threat between all his work as finding the

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inspiration in the every day, every
day. He's the author of a few

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books, the latest called Wonderful Find
Wonder in the every day every Day.

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We'll be talking about this book and
his creation Street Wisdom on today's program.

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He chorches a day from London Day, but a very hearty welcome too,

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working on purpose, I'm very happy
to be here. How lovely is this?

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Right? Oh, it's more fun
than it's supposed to be, So

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don't tell anyone it's a secret.
Well, first, let's thank Monica Parker,

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because that's how I found you when
I read her book on wonder and

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you were future it in there.
And of course the first thing I did

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was I went to my friend LinkedIn
to see if I could find you.

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And you are good enough to accept
my invitation to join my network. And

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then I said you must come on
my podcast as well and talk about your

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work and your life, and you
said, yes, Well, it's interesting.

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I think we're both fans of intention. I mean, given what I

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know of your work and how important
purpose is and how it kind of I

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find that on the internet you get
a sense of that before people have even

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spoken. Everyone's we're all hustling around
on the internet. But there was something

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about your the way you asked the
question, just a sense I thought,

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you know what, Yeah, that's
a yes. So here we are.

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Oh, I love it. Well
for our viewers who are watching here,

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here's the book Wan der Full.
It's so delightful, and we're going to

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talk about that today. But first, I mean, David Peerl, you

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are an incredible specimen. I love
that we call you an experience engineer.

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But we have to hear a little
bit about how this person is human that

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brought us street wisdom and other things
we're going to talk about came to be.

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And can you start with the story
of hearing Placido Domingo sing opera and

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how it was, how that experience
was for you, what it did to

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you. Yeah, absolutely, I
mean I do feel that I've wandered my

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way to hear It's been splendidly unexpected, but one of the defining moments of

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my young life. I was eight
years old, I think, and a

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teacher at my school had noticed that
I had a kind of voice organized for

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me to have an audition at the
Royal Opera House, which is here in

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London, and they gave me a
job, which I thought was going to

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happen for the rest of my life. You know, when you're eighte you

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think, oh, well, that's
what happens to you. You're sing and

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they give you a job. Noways
been that simple, But any rate,

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the first opera singer I heard close
up, and I mean like four feet

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away from me was a young Placido
Domingo who was about to do his Covent

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Garden debut, as was I in
an Operaal Tosca, and I remember,

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I shall never forget it changed me
forever. I was arrived for a rehearsal

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one morning. I mean, have
you ever been on a huge international theater

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stage during rehearsal times? But it's
just like in the movies. There are

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scene shifters moving in this dust and
ropes and and you know, you look

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up and it seems to go to
heaven. It just disappears into the darkness.

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And I sang my little song at
the beginning of the third act of

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Tosca, and then this guy,
like a big guy in a T shirt,

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stripy T shirt, put his big
fat hand on my shoulder and went,

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Brah, brav. And I thought, wow, that's very nice.

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Who are you? And he turned
like a few steps and began to sing,

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and it was Domingo. And you
know how music is, it's not

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rational, it's emotional. And I
from that second when I heard him sing,

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I went, that's real. I
was eight years old, and I'd

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always had this long I had this
sense that the adults were lying to me.

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They were sort of I'm sure lots
of kids are like that. And

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I remember at the time thinking,
that's what real. Everything else in school

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and now that's not real. This
is what's real. Obviously connected with something.

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Yeah, the opera was very powerful, but itso something seemed to me

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irreducibly true about the sound that was
coming in and that's never really left me.

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It's amazing that happened to you at
age eight. You know, it's

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amazing, right, And you've gone
on and done all these amazing things and

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don't think for a second like I've
talked about, and you have to sing

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a little something. But you went
on and you you have been singing opera.

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You still do today, and you
do improv on the streets and for

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opera. And you've done all these
things, and so you know your your

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road to becoming who you are and
how you've I would say collected experiences to

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fold into your person has been extraordinary. David, Yeah, it is.

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It's it puzzles me. I feeling
immensely fortunate, partly because for earlier in

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my life I felt like things were
very scattered and I wasn't sure. I

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couldn't feel the thread that joined them. I seemed to be doing different things.

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I'd been grown up in a family
where my father was a was a

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role model in the sense that he
did many things. He was a he

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was a he was a dentist,
he was he was a lawyer, he

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was ended as a judge, he
was an artist. He did he did,

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he did many things. So I
guess I thought, you're supposed to

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do different things at the same time. But I'll be honest, I it

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hasn't been an ordinary path because when
I was younger, I assumed I would

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be some sort of full time performer. I go straight into the arts,

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and I have always been in the
arts. But this business is falling into

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business, which happened in my sort
of late twins, was unexpected and for

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many people quite puzzling. I'd been
I'd had a show on the BBC.

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She's probably in my thirties now,
I think about it. And a company

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who I'm sure they won't mind me
mentioned it called McKinsey, which is a

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big management In fact, they might
mention in which case at some point during

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this podcast at dart like go in
my neck and you might have to.

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Don't worry, I'll say you David, don't worry you Sti'll take the dart.

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I think my friends at the McKinsey, I've worked there for many many

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with them on and off for many
many years. I think they'd appreciate that.

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They were thinking at the time about
was there a link between art and

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business? What could business people learn
from the arts and vice versa? And

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I fell in. I fell into
doing that and found it really satisfying.

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There's something very gratifying and interesting about
taking the skills you have in who are

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into an area where they're not where
they're not common. I'm sure you feel

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this in the work that you do
and where there is actually a big appetite.

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Sometimes working in the arts, I'll
be honest, can be dull and

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it can be full of people who
are sort of Yeah, the performances are

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stimulating, but the hours of practice
and the long days of waiting around and

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not much fun. So I've actually
been super fortunate in that I've part of

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my life is performing pure performing music
and song, and yes I will sing

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to you at some point. Part
of it is what I call experience engineering,

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which in your kind of production you
mentioned, which is really bringing some

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of the techniques I suppose of theater
into the every day and making meetings and

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conferences unusually impactful. And part of
it is a nonprofit area called street Wisdom,

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which again is the red thread here
is I think creativity, And for

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me, street Wisdom is a creative
practice that you can do in the streets

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where and whenever you are. And
we will get to that, But for

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listeners and viewers who haven't read the
book yet, I just want to also

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situate just a little bit more of
David's background. So he says he's played

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double bass and orchestra, studied English, not music. He says in university

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wrote in film and advertising, set
up an in opera, Come circus company.

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I'm not sure what that means.
Studied improvisation, which I do too,

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by the way, amazing presented music
shows on the BBC, and through

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all that fell into working with businesses, helping organizations and those that lead them

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to be more inspired and inspiring,
which of course I completely relate to.

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But that is quite an interesting,
like I say, collection of experiences that

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you folded into your person. Yeah, I'm honest. If I'm honest,

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Sometimes I flick back through photos on
my Mac and just going back a few

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years. I love variety, so
I look back and go, wow,

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you're lucky boy. I'm in and
out of the most bizarre places, zelig.

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I'm in palaces and governments, and
sometimes like what is he doing there?

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So I find it is it is
an interesting grab bag of different skills.

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I would say, I would say, what is it? I was

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thinking about this recently and I was
kind I was talking to you about it.

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But creativity is a little bit like
the way I think of it is

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like it's inside you and it's like
a puppy dog. And what your your

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job with creativity is to throw a
stick and then your creativity goes and gets

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the stick and brings about. It's
almost putting your creativity to work. And

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if you're going to do it,
throw a big stick and throw it a

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long way. And so I think
what I often do for myself is and

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I'm listening, I'm as I'm as
distracted and as idle as the next person.

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But there's something, there's something that
amuses me about throwing the stick for

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my creativity to bring back. And
I guess that's why I've done a variety

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of different things and grown in confidence. I mean, you know, you

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after a while of people not kicking
you out of offices and you know,

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central banks and whatever or wherever it
is, or indeed on the street,

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you know you've done improv. There's
nothing more direct than having to sing to

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an audience on the street. I
think your confidence grows. My confidence has

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grown, and I've began to feel
more relaxed and more. That doesn't really

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matter what the context is, show
up, put your attention on the other

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person, be full of love and
go with what comes up is really what

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my that's my m O. I
think. Oh, I totally align with

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that. So let's do this next, David. Let's throw the stick and

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I would love to hear just whatever
you might want to sing for us today.

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Oh you want me to sing something
for you? Yeah, a little

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bit. Please let me sing you
just a very So. I've just come

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back from Florence, where my wife
and I celebrated our thirtieth wedding anniversary years

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ago. I stood under someone sent
me to sing under her window. Actually

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was thirty two years ago, and
I was sure she won't mind if I

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sing you the beginning of the song
I sang to her under the window.

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Okay, it's called Mattinata, and
it goes away. I don't know what

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whether the mic will like this,
so I'll sit back a little bit from

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it and I'll see what happens.
Loady Beyond Corvees Fea Jollu, Shorty Skew,

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the Algorm Soul, the Jo Corosi, Sweaty Tar, Cardy Furdy lost

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All Come Mosa frame Torcano into an
oil, kra jopdsdy a Invoy stalk or

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lane, Oh, come and so
on? Well, no, wonder she

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married you, my friend? Goodness
gracious, No, I know a little

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time, but I didn't follow that. What was the gist of it?

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Oh, Like most Italian opera sing
is he is complaining, he's waiting outside

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the house of his loved one.
It says, look, Dawn has put

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on her clothes and she's come out
to play, and she's turning the world

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right. Come and put Why are
you waiting? I'm waiting to sing to

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you, and you won't open your
windows? Come down and play? Is

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basically what you say. Oh delightful, Oh my goodness. I would totally

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marry someone that did that for me, so goodness gracious. Okay, Well,

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now let's talk about sweet wisdom.
This is really where and I'm on

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the subscription list, by the way, so I'm getting these memos and I

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understand there's something happening in Austin,
Texas, which is just a couple hours

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south of me here in a couple
of weeks. So give it to us.

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But how did this which tweet wisdom
start? I know how it did,

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But the rest of people haven't read
your book, don't. Okay,

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Well, I mean it. When
I tried to trace it back in the

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book, it went back and back
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with Domingo, which was a sort
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to find the kind of miraculous.
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modern myths. It's a lot of
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think the entire Harry Potter franchise is
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the Superpower films based on this idea. For me, anyway of beyond our

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you know, our daily normality,
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just could find your way through.
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work and spiritual work and various things, and it included doing exercises on myself

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and one of them was had been
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which was then actual wording was walking
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what is that? And so I
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thought, well, it's some poetic
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why don't I try Why don't try
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in I went down to Leicester Square, which some of your listeners may know,

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which is in a large, busy
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walking in a really big circle,
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is because no one could see the
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guy, So I thought, okay, And as I tightened the circle,

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comfortable because I felt I was being
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the kind of standard, whereas you
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kind of inane and slight the insane
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one was really looking at anything.
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streets with their eyes turned inwards.
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snake eyes, where you just kind
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were thinking they weren't really looking,
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that's interesting. And the second thing
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what they're even if they were looking
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asked them, because my fear that
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is they say nothing's coming from the
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realizing that a lot of the time
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our thoughts about the world and our
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thought, Wow, this is interesting, and so I realized that it's almost

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like I had an invisibility cloak,
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very interesting place to work with people
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I've worked a lot in offices and
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studied taking people out of out of
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of course they didn't really have an
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business or in a home or in
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you walk in and you have an
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realm, you're in a way freer
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the sorts of senior people I work
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can kind of they can disappear and
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that makes if that makes sense,
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street Wisdom, and it's gone on
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world. It's it's and it's been
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both a gift in that I wanted
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experience of what a passion project can
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attention into it, lots of love, it can also really flourish. So

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it's been a very interesting double less
than that, mm hmm. And we're

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going to talk more about just what's
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first break here. I'm your host, Doctor release Cortez. We've going near.

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David Pearl is a world renowned experience
engineer and the founder of street Wiszard,

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which we've been talking about more about
after the break. Doctor Elise Cortez

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She helps companies visioneer for greater purpose
among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership

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To learn more or to invite Alease
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her at Elisecortes dot com. Let's
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Thanks for stating with us, and
welcome back to working on Purpose. I'm

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your host, doctor Elise Cortes,
as I also am dedicated to help them

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create a world where people realize potential
at work, are led by inspirational leaders

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that help them find and contribute their
greatness, and we do business a better

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the world. I keep researching and
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one came out in March of twenty
twenty three. It's called a Great Revitalization

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How activating meaning and purpose can radically
in life in your business. So check

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it out. It's on Amazon and
my web my website at least for test

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dot com, as well as Gustodeshne
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us, My guest is David Pearl. He's the author of Wonderful Find wonder

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in the every Day, every Day. So I love the premise of street

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Wisdom. David. It's just it
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your book that you know this idea, that there is inexhaustible supply of ideas

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around us all the time, if
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I think that's right. I mean, I think we have. You know,

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literature and the printing press have been
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but also they've aggressively, I think, may encourage us to ignore other forms

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of learning, other forms of intelligence, and so to stop asking questions in

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different ways. It's sort of like, came from a pretty literary background.

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My father would send me to the
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forest or to ask the swallows and
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cookie, but for many, many
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so the direction of the wind or
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and our unconscious mind, as I
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doesn't necessarily speak Google language. And
so whilst the Internet is pretty good,

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you know, the search engine is
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The heart and the viscera and most
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also very attuned if we let it
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I found we found over time is
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a question and go for a wonder, you will encounter answers. We can

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talk more about it. You will
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it's interacting with you. The environment
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out and get through in order to
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been a revelation to me. I
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how you go on to say,
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on to say, the answers are
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The world is our creative playmate,
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uses the street and the urban landscape, says the stimuli and mirror for our

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thinking. It awakens our sensibilities and
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you go on to really talk about
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you mentioned embodied intelligence, but there's
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it in ourselves. You've got a
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you walk that, you pace back
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go to Hollywood, you'll see writers
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and so forth. I think the
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to immobilize your body and sit in
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and very modern idea. How many
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you're actually in motion? You know, actually archimedes eureka moment literally happened when

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he got in the bath. Remember, and we've all had that feeling.

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You've had a long day, working
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says, you know what, chill
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have a bath. Get in the
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your body changes, it's energetically the
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part of that. That's really part
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as a compliment to their normal thinking. It's not designed to you know,

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to to to replace rational thought.
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they do it anyway. A lot
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give themselves permission, they'll go out, they'll leave the building in order to

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think things through different ways. Mm
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about this and I align with this. You say, wonder is a decision,

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and I love that it's a choice. It's you know, it's there

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for us, and I love that
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think that again, we've we've limited
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you know, experienced wonder. We
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breaking over the Rockies, no doubt
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to see that their higher incidence of
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is a farmer on the Rockies and
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comes up, and they'll probably say, no, I'm looking at my seed

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drills, right, So it's just
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to remember that I think wonders available
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I think if we can begin to
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tricky places, wonder the ability of
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alive, this is happening right now. The curiosity that comes with that,

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the sense of inspiration, is actually
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possible. I am in a complete
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of that same of which brings me
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Because you are an experience engineer,
you have designed these what you call walk

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shops, which I love, that
play on workshops walkshops, and there are

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three hour experiences and they are each
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I learned about in your book that
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of course I will, And I
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book and we had to thing called
the pandemic, I don't know if you

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had something like that in America,
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went around and in that during COVID, we found that actually people we could

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do great workshops in an hour.
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length, or they can be long, but the three phases are pretty much

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the same the whole time. So
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and during that we encourage people to
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keeping an instruction in mind. And
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is be drawn to what attracts you
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can't be you may know if you're
not watching this, this, this podcast,

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this show, you won't have seen
that. Actually there's a movement that

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goes with it, because I trained
a diagnosis as well, and it's important

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that we get people getting the full
value of that wander. So for that

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wander, for example, people start
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it's a way of waking up their
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go towards what it's curious about,
which we were trained out of most of

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us at school. It would be
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something or someone that attracted us we
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would be very odd. But these
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get them to log into what we
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logged in during the tune up phase. The second phase is called the quest,

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where you take that connectedness, go
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that I mentioned before, And what
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it makes your walk intentional. And
what that does, it seems,

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is that the street, imagine the
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to have something to work on with
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the streets, and that's also okay. But I've found that the conversation with

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your environment really only kicks in when
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want answered. And then the third
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it's where you meet up with other
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or online and share what happened.
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to keep it very very simple,
to lower expectations. And so there will

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be people who come on the walk
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be a massive breakthrough through them and
you can see them working really hard at

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it. So what we say to
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we ask what popped out at you, what you know, what's struck you

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just one thing and how might it
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rather than making it an answer to
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fruitful conversations. So the tune up the

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quest and the sharing. And by
keeping it this simple and requiring no sort

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of professional training to do it,
you can do it for yourself or people

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volunteers do them all over the world. We give them additional support, but

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it's very simple, you know,
for consciously we made it very simple.

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It seems to work really powerfully well. But then you also helped me introduced

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this one little element of disorientation and
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upfront where you're going to be meeting
for the sharing spot. Usually you say

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you do it into a you go
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but you don't tell them and toward
toward until toward the very end, just

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where they're going to meet. And
I think that is fascinating and delightful.

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like, well, what do you mean

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you know we're going to be meeting. Yeah, I'm glad you liked that

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as well. I mean, I
the reason for that is that adults those

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of us who find ourselves thinking onselves
adults, you know, constantly on a

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schedule, and we're you're constantly trying
to So what I wanted to do on

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street Wisdom was let people drop the
responsibility for time and place, and the

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facilitators, who ever facilitating it,
you know, will stand still and not

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move, so that where you can
always find your way back. And at

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the end, we'll let people rather
them have to think how am I going

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to navigate from certain you know,
certain place and and be grown up and

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efficient about it. We want them, you know, to get lost and

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find treasure. So we will handle
the end and let the end be a

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surprise. It is a delightful surprise. I mean that in itself. How

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often do you allow yourself time to
have delightful surprises in a normal working day?

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Answer? Not very often, So
that's what it's about. Or even

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to be lost. I love the
story you talked about being lost, and

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I can relate to that too.
And so the element of being heightened in

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your awareness and your senses turned on
to get yourself unlost very very very fascinating

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and just interesting stuff. So we'll
talk more about that. Let's grab our

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last break. I'm your host,
Doctor at Last Cortez. We've been on

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the air with David Pearl. He's
a world renowned experience engineer and the founder

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of Street Wisdom, which we've been
talking about. After the break, we're

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going to hear a couple of stories
about how it's actually worked with people around

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the world who've been participants. Stay
with right back. Doctor Elise Cortes is

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a management consultant specializing in meaning and
purpose. An inspirational speaker and author,

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she helps companies visioneer for greater purpose
among stakeholders and develop purpose inspired leadership and

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meaning infused cultures that elevate fulfillment,
performance, and commitment within the workforce.

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To learn more or to invite Elise
to speak to your organization, please visit

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her at elisecortes dot com. Let's
talk about how to get your employees working

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on purpose. This is working on
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Elise alisee at elisecortes dot com.
Now back to working on Purpose. Interesting

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with us and welcome back to Working
on Purpose. I'm your host, Doctor

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Elise Cortes. I mentioned in the
last break about my latest book coming out,

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The Great Revitalization. What I did
for you is I created a three

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page assessment for you to be able
to download from my website to be able

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to help you understand the extent to
which your organization is designed for the needs

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and desires of today's workforce. You
can find it at gustodashnow dot com if

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you are just now joining us.
My guest is David Pearl. He's the

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author of Wonderful Find wonder in the
every Day, every Day. So,

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as you mentioned earlier, one of
the things I was amazed at, David,

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is that this stuff is free.
So you mentioned in your book that

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you decided to give this away and
that you were inspired by the open source

448
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and shareware movement, and so you
have made your instructions to be able to

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the public for free. That is
amazing. What's behind that, of course,

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that's a good question. I My
first thing that comes to mind is

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the wisdom that's out there is free. It's being offered by the street for

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so how can I charge for it? That doesn't seem that doesn't seem polite

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When we do charge, and increasingly
there's a sort of commercial side to street

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wisdom because businesses have come and said, we really want to do this,

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will you come and create the spoke
programs, which which we do do,

456
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but on the on, the on
the on the making it freeness. I've

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sort of since then learned probably why
I did that, and it relates to

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system change. And you'll know about
this because you work in, you know,

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in all sorts of elaborate systems,
and I I was talking about system

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changed recently. I thought retrospectively,
this is probably why I did what I

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did, which is I was saying, you know, if if you want

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to change the system, three things
are important. One is that the system

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doesn't notice. The second is that
it doesn't cost anything, and the third

464
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is it's really good fun because you're
going to need lots of energy to do

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it. And I think, in
a funny way, in a small way,

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with the walkshops, the street ways, there is a system change.

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It's trying to it's trying to inject
into a system which is all about routine

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and work, lifefulness, inspiration,
freedom, mental freedom and emotional freedom,

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and song, getting cities to talk
to each other, becoming more lovable places

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and livable places, and I think
that lowering the barrier of entry by not

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having a a fee is important.
I will say it's been tempting over the

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years to put one in, not
for financial reasons, but just because people

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tend to have a tendency to turn
up to something that they have paid for.

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And what we find is there is
almost invariable fifty percent drop off rate

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people. You know, a hundred
people will so they turn up, fifty

476
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one people will show up, which
I have no issue with because you know

477
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the people will show up when it's
time and there's there's no issue. But

478
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sometimes we thought, you know what, and maybe if they if we change

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them five dollars, then they'd be
more likely to turn up. But it

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is what it is, and I'm
glad we've done what we've done. Well.

481
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Then, how is it so you
have some kind of a program or

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you're teaching people who to become facilitators
so they can actually conduct street wisdom tours

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if you will, or experiences work
I should say, walk shops in their

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own cities. What's that program like? That's an informal thing. We used

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to call it the Street Wizards School, but it's an informal thing. Again

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back to our very first comment,
which is that you can sense intention on

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the internet. There are a lot
of people of drive bys, and that's

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great, that's great, they pick
it up, they put it down.

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But there are some people that pick
up street wisdom for whatever reason, it

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speaks to them, it links to
the work that they do. Otherwise,

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many are coaches, but not all
by any means. And those people if

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they get curious. I'm a sucker
for people who are curious to know more,

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and we'll organize online online sessions or
help them prep for the sessions that

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they do. Doing it is the
best way of learning about it. And

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often coaches actually come to us and
want to use it with their businesses,

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in which case, especially if they're
being paid for it, we organize.

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I mean, it's a voluntary basis, but some form of exchange of either

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energy or money often changes hands.
But I didn't want it to turn into

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a you know, a financial policing
thing. That's not in the spirit of

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street wisdom. It's all about sort
of, it's all about generosity, and

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00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:37.960
it's been a continuing lesson in trusting
the emergent. If I can put it

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that way, and of course business
tests that in you you feel off and

503
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.800
not know if you do, but
sometimes you feel stressed and there seems to

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be pressure, and sometimes one can
feel a little bit competitive, and so

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on and so forth. But the
more I colleges run the business. So

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the only thing I haven't that I
can think of approximately anything to what you're

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00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.719
talking about. However, the one
little thing that maybe fits in this camp

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is a few years ago my daughter, who's now twenty one years old,

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came up with this idea that for
Christmas, what she wanted to do was

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she wanted us to make our sugar
cookies with the icing on top of the

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really good yummy ones, make some
sandwiches and then we would go out into

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the street and disperse them. So
I said, let's add water, let's

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a little bit of cash as well. But what's been a fascinating about it,

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David, is we go and she
with her friend us in the backseat

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dispersing. I'm driving. I always
want to ask what has you on the

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streets, and so hearing the stories
of what people share of what has them

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00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.000
on the streets as we give them
this with made two cookies and a sandwich

518
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has been phenomenal education in a way
for me to understand things about life in

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the world that I just wouldn't otherwise
normally access. It's the closest thing so

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far to what I think I've experienced
that might fit in this street within camp.

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00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.079
Yeah, I mean, I think
it's there's a lot in that,

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in that story, and it's great, it's great you do that. I

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think that a strangers are teachers.
You know that famous phrase. You know,

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an enemy is just a stranger whose
story you haven't heard yet. I

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think because we don't really connect,
we judge really from a distance, and

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there are good reasons perhaps for being
judgmental. It's a safety apart from anything

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in cities. But when you have
the courage to be able to, you

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00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:38.039
know, perhaps sink beneath those barriers
and be just and and engage in common

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humanity, it's quite miraculous. It's
quite amazing the common cause you find.

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And it's that's the sort of the
knitting together of society that I think I'm

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interested in, and doing that in
a in a light touch way. There

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as a lot of loneliness out there, and a lot of people find themselves

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on the streets. I myself had
appeared when I was younger and I was

534
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:06.599
experiencing depression. I mentioned that I
was able to keep all the different parts

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of my life together. It felt
very dramatic, and I found some short

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00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.719
amount of time I was wandering about
and not in a very enjoyable way,

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00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:22.000
and the kindnesses that I experienced there
really stayed with me, and I think

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I've probably woven them into this idea
of Street Wisdom. So beautiful, David.

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00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.079
And you know, when I was
crafting, as you know my processes,

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I read the book cover to cover. I take notes that become part

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00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:37.519
of my research process, and they
go into my speeches and my books,

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00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.719
etc. And I use this part
here that I want to read next from

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00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:45.400
your book is the basis of what
I created for the description of this particular

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00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.360
episode. But you say, when
we talk about the allure and the promise

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00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.639
of Street Wisdom's workshops, I love
that you talk about this. You say,

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00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.920
today participants are finding street Wisdom a
powerful way to activate their awareness and

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00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.800
log into the database of flattened wisdom
that surrounds us at a time when we're

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00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:07.960
increasingly lost in our heads, disoriented
by fake news, closed loop networks,

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00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:13.039
and biased reinforcing Echo Chambers. Street
wisdom helps us to turn our attention outwards

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00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.480
again, to escape the mental musings
and daydreams and enjoy a present, tense,

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00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:21.639
right here, right now, full
century life experience of being human.

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00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:29.199
Did I write that? Did?
Indeed? My friend, it's so stunningly

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00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.280
beautiful. I know if you ever
get this feeling. But I think this

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is this links to my experiences as
a both an improviser and as a student

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of street wisdom, which is that
when you're sort of in flow, you

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don't necessarily remember what happened, particularly
or it seems like it's happening to somebody

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00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.119
else. And I certainly when I'm
when I'm writing, it flows out of

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me. And of course I've edited
it and so on and so forth.

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00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.800
But I really I'm really listening to
you say that and thinking, wow,

560
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yeah, what that guy seems to
have an interesting thing to say, but

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I don't recognize it as mine.
So thank you. It's very touching.

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00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.159
Oh it's wonderful. I love you
know, reading bits and such that really

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really speak to me. So we
can't leave without sharing a story or two

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about a couple of people that maybe
have experienced your workshops. And what did

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00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.159
that do for them? What did
they discover? Oh my goodness. Well,

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one of the reasons I wrote that
wonderful was an excuse to kind of

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00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.840
go around and and and harvest stories. And there are there are so many.

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00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.880
And I will say to the people
listening and watching that there is a

569
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bell curve. Obviously there are people
for whom I don't know anybody who said

570
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it didn't work at all, because
because at the very least it's it's great

571
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.039
to give us a permission to have
a bit of a wander. And there

572
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:51.840
are those who have had life changing
experiences. And then in the middle what

573
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.159
very often it's it's more like it's
more like having counsel, a sort of

574
00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.920
whispered counsel on you've got to you
know, you very off and it's about

575
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.760
where what's my next step at work
and life in diet or food or whatever.

576
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.239
And we humans like to have a
little bit of encouragement or a little

577
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.440
bit of insight the next step,
because the future is scary for us.

578
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:17.199
But I will what can I The
one that comes to mind is there are

579
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many. The one that comes to
mind is a friend of mine, Scott,

580
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who was on I think the very
first street Wisdom he did in London.

581
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:31.800
Know how he got there, but
anyway, he at the time was

582
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doing a job where he was very
successful but hated, not hated, but

583
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.320
wanted to do something else. And
so he asked the question. And by

584
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.639
the way, his job was a
very glamorous job. So and it was

585
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:50.519
in the fashion business. And he
asked the question something like when I'm going

586
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.880
to jump, but when when should
I? And he wandered, and he

587
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.719
found himself walking down a street which
is where he had his first job in

588
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:05.000
London, in a fashion street.
On that as he wandered down that street,

589
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.119
he bumped into three people he knew, one of whom lived in Australia,

590
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.719
had no reason to be there.
All of them were from the fashion

591
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.360
business, and they all asked him
the same question, which is why haven't

592
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.039
you set up that new business.
Yet by the time he finished that walk,

593
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.440
he decided that's it of setting up
the business. It was like the

594
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:30.239
world was nudging him in a way
that he's I think we said it earlier

595
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on. Sometimes your on conscious mind
knows the answer, and an experience like

596
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:43.719
street wisdom helps that answer become a
present to your conscious mind. So Scott

597
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.559
would be. He runs a very
successful different company now called Boom, and

598
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.800
that's something that happened to him on
a street wisdom. I also a friend

599
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.239
of mine she decided to get She
didn't actually do the divorce, but her

600
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:02.639
marriage hadn't been so hot and her
then husband called on during the street wisdom

601
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.199
and that was the point that she
decided, you know what, enough enough.

602
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.159
But that was the one off right, And that's not a common it's

603
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.679
not a common response. But there
are many, many, many, many

604
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:25.119
many examples where people have had unusually
clear directions, so sometimes people come back

605
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:30.679
with a long face. There was
a girl I remember who was in two

606
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.800
minds about going to Canada to have
a baby with her boyfriends? Was it?

607
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.159
And so she went out because she
felt like, no, I'm going

608
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.880
to do something, and she came
back long face. I said, you

609
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.360
know what happened with you? Should
I did you get an answer? She

610
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:45.559
said, oh, I got an
answer. I said, do you know

611
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:52.280
happy? But she said, well
it's pretty un you know, I'm ambiguous.

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So apparently she she'd gone out and
the first thing she saw was a

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Canadian Airlines advert on a bus and
then she turned and she saw a huge

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billboard of a baby, and then
as she was trying to escape, she

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ran to the Nike building, which
said just do it. It's like,

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okay, But what is interesting.
What I often say to people is at

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the end, remember that you are
selecting the things that you're seeing. Someone

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else you might have gone down the
road, asking a different question and being

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completely you wouldn't have selected those things. So in a way and a strong

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way, you're not walking through the
street. You're walking through your own psyche.

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Yes, everything you see is your
choice, so it's your it's your

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thinking being reflected back to you.
Often, Oh, David, this has

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just been such a fast It goes
by so fast when it's just much fun.

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We've come to the end of the
show. I think by now you

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know this program is listening by people
around the world and they are tuning in

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because they want to improve their own
experience at work, to make it a

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place where they can actually step into
their shine. I want to become a

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better inspiration leader on how people usher
themselves into a higher state of their own

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consciousness and contribution. What would you
like to leave them with today, I

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would gratitude is really helpful wherever you
are, whatever you're doing inside or outside,

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take the word gratitude in lovely bright
colors and wallpaper it at the back

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of your mind as you look out
at the present moment and recognize you couldn't

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be anywhere else, doing anything else, being anything else, and it's a

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miracle that you are there. That's
a constant reboot for me, because so

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much of us is designed. How
can I be this and how can I

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change that? There's something about very
powerful about accepting and loving the moment,

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appreciating the moment. I know people
say that a lot, but I think

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it is really really important. Yeah, fantastic way to finished, David,

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And let me certainly say I'm very
grateful to a cross paths with you,

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to now have you in my life
and you cannot get away from me.

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I do tend to knock on people's
doors when I come into their cities,

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so it'll be nice gentle knock,
but you'll be invited to come out and

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dance. Listeners. In few words, you're going to want to learn more

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about this man and connect with him
and his programs. You can learn more

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about David Pearl the programs he does
for businesses as well as the street wisdom

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that he offers and the work.
I appreciate it, especially the work that

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you're doing to elevate creativity and companies. But you can start by visiting streetwisdom

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dot org. That's one place,
or his site davidpeerl dot net. Last

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week, you to miss the Life
Show, you can almost catch it be

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a recorded podcast wherever you get your
podcast. We were on air with doctor

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Raj Sosodia talking about his Ladiest book, which is number sixteen a weeken The

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Path to Purpose, Inner Peace and
Healing. It was an incredible honor to

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have him back on the show talking
about his life in such a deeply open,

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vulnerable way. He describes how he's
come to be who he is.

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If you don't know him, he
is the co founder of the Global Conscious

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Capitalism movement. I dare say you
will laugh, cry, and be inspired

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by the interview in the book.
See you next week for another vitalizing and

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uplifting conversation that will help you more
meaningfully connect with your work while providing insight

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on creating destination workplaces where people can
do the best work of their lives while

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becoming the best versions of themselves.
See you there, and let's keep looking

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for ways to work on purpose.
We hope you've enjoyed this week's program.

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Be sure to tune into Working on
Purpose featuring your host, doctor Elise Cortes,

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each week on W four C.
Why Together, We'll create a world

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where business operates conscientiously. Leadership inspires
and passion performance, and employees are fulfilled

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in work that provides the meaning and
purpose they crave. See you there,

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Let's work on Purpose.